--- Log opened Fri May 02 00:00:30 2008
[00:02:35] < arch_> Is LVM faster than putting your pratitions normally on the disk?
[00:02:55] < arch_> Or any other speed benefits?
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[00:04:07] < arch_> Quick -- hide your 89s!  :P
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[00:08:38] < arch_> Oh, I thought that was a person here.
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[00:09:40] < arch_> Yes... what could be worse than being hit by burning chickens?
[00:09:45] < mokomull> arch_: It doesn't have speed benefits but it has flexibility benefits.
[00:11:50] < mokomull> for example: it lets you slice a single partition into multiple logical volumes (kinda like an extended partition, actually)... and you can always add another device and expand *any* of your partitions onto a second disk (things don't have to be contiguous like they do real partitions)
[00:12:13] < mokomull> that last fact is something I'm loving right now as I'm testing out moving my 1TB RAID 5 from ext3 to XFS
[00:12:22] < chronomex> ooh yeah
[00:12:54] < mokomull> because I can shrink the first, create a new LV, move files, and then delete the old LV and expand the new one
[00:13:05] < arch_> Don't you still gotta resize the ext3 fs after you resize the partitions though?
[00:13:15] < mokomull> without having to actually *move* the new "partition" down
[00:13:18] < Nikky> Just use NTFS
[00:13:30] < mokomull> arch_: Since I shrunk it, I had to resize it *before* resizing the partitions, but yes.
[00:13:53] < mokomull> the thing is, my XFS partition will eventually "wrap around" the end of the disk
[00:13:59] < prime38> ewww, xfs only supports up to 8 exabyte files
[00:14:08] < chronomex> lol mokomull
[00:14:09] < arch_> I hope there's a utility out there (preferably graphical) that can do all this for me so I don't have to, and maybe screw something up. :P
[00:14:13] < mokomull> and ext3 supports up to like 4TB or something.
[00:14:23] < mokomull> arch_: I know RedHat-based distros choose LVM by default.
[00:14:32] < mokomull> and actually it's *really* easy to make an LVM disk anyway
[00:14:52] < mokomull> you tell it what partitions to use, then you create logical volumes on top of them
[00:15:41] < Nikky> ubuntutard
[00:16:03] < mokomull> Nikky: stfu
[00:16:12] < Nikky> :D
[00:16:44] < arch_> What's the fastest filesystem for reading stuff (and is still relatively safe)?
[00:17:05] < Nikky> reading what stuff?
[00:17:21] < arch_> scratch that -- fastest file system, for, like, games and stuff.
[00:17:33] < mokomull> arch_: In all honesty, it doesn't matter.
[00:17:57] < mokomull> however, because of the way I do backups, I have one HELL of a lot of directory entries
[00:18:06] < mokomull> (i.e. 50 copies of an entire filesystem tree)
[00:18:28] < mokomull> and ext3 takes 50 minutes to traverse it and tell me how much space is taken up.  XFS takes 12.
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[00:18:52] < arch_> I heard somewhere that ext3 is really bad, too, if you have a bunch of folders, and gets really wasteful on your space.
[00:19:30] < mokomull> It does have a relatively low maximum subdirectory count, but even that's still in the thousands
[00:19:34] < Nikky> just use ntfs
[00:19:47] < mokomull> and frankly, if you've got a folder that contains over a thousand other folders... You're Doing Something Wrong ;)
[00:19:58] < mokomull> I've had good results with XFS and ReiserFS.
[00:20:17] < mokomull> Nikky: don't say anything.
[00:20:24] < Nikky> About?
[00:20:37] < arch_> lol, Nikky so badly wants everyone to be stuck with Windows.
[00:21:37] < chronomex> hey, there's linux support for ntfs
[00:21:47] < arch_> Still sucks, though.
[00:22:37] < TheStorm> meh I'll take fat32 and be done with it
[00:22:44] < arch_> I will... I dunno, do some dance, or whatever, if NTFS ever become something that you can install and boot Linux from.
[00:22:45] < TheStorm> it works and so whatever
[00:25:13] < arch_> lol, but, then it takes like a million hours to defragment.
[00:25:26] < arch_> NTFS defragments in, like, four seconds.
[00:25:33] < arch_> FAT32 in four hours.
[00:27:10] < arch_> I guess BrandonW finally succeeded from TCPA or something.
[00:28:19] < TheStorm> true
[00:28:21] < arch_> (Or 'suseeded' or however you spell that.)
[00:29:50] < TheStorm> yeah fat32 takes forever to defrag but whatever it works and I don't have the time to reformat all my hard drive that use it. 
[00:30:09] < TheStorm> and I can always have it defrag while I'm at school
[00:30:25] < arch_> You must got some weird drives.
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[00:30:42] < arch_> I guess I do, too, 'cause when I use FAT32, it always gets corrupted.
[00:32:07] < TheStorm> well I just don't bother they're all on xp machines and it isn't worth the time to transfer all the files to reformat them
[00:34:06] < arch_> I thought XP converts FAT32 to NTFS destructionlessly (and pretty fast, too)?
[00:36:58] < arch_> I wonder if I should be using JFS since this comp is so crappy, and I want to be using whatever will use less CPU...
[00:37:08] < arch_> * probably watn
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[00:47:26] < mokomull> mmkay, well, for what I did regarding the XFS partition: http://blog.mmlx.us/2008/05/moving-my-raid-array-to-xfs.html
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[00:54:43] < arch_> Are there ways to make XFS safer without sacrificing much speed?
[00:57:53] < mokomull> safer?
[00:58:10] < mokomull> check out the XFS FAQ (yeah, the SGI guys are pretty good documentors anyway)
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[00:58:49] < mokomull> but pretty much the race conditions are getting ironed out as they get found
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[01:38:07] < arch_> mokomull:  One more FS quetion:  does LVM handle crashes and power failures okay?
[01:38:58] < mokomull> as long as you're not in the middle of changing LVM stuff ... it pretty much depends on the filesystem over it
[01:39:10] < mokomull> LVM information is pretty static unless you're in the process of adding a new LV or something
[01:46:45] <+TD-Linux> LVM is just partitioning in partitioning correct? so it's no different than so-called physical partitions
[01:46:53] <+TD-Linux> *primary
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[01:55:33] < mokomull> it's not "just partitioning"
[01:55:44] < mokomull> it gives you essentially anything you want to do with that partition with like 4MB resolution
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[02:03:58] <@efneTI86> [Merthsoft] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
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[02:42:16] < i_c-Y> hai
[02:42:27] < tifreak8x> 'lo
[02:43:19] < i_c-Y> sup freak
[02:43:49] < tifreak8x> not much icy, how bout with you?
[02:51:10] < i_c-Y> eh
[02:51:13] < i_c-Y> my throat is still sore
[02:51:55] < tifreak8x> screamin at old ladies again?
[02:52:31] < tifreak8x> :P
[02:52:35] < i_c-Y> i went to the doc on monday
[02:52:38] < i_c-Y> got antibiotics
[02:52:41] < i_c-Y> not helping yet
[02:52:54] < chronomex> my friend has whooping cough
[02:52:54] < tifreak8x> bummer
[02:53:09] < chronomex> Im trying to get him to complete last quarter's group project but he doesn't seem capable
[02:53:14] < chronomex> >_<
[02:53:22] < chronomex> what do you have, i_c-Y?
[02:53:44] < i_c-Y> they said a respiratory infection
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[02:54:31] <@efneTI86> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[03:52:46] < Netham44> going to put Linux on my laptop with 256MB of RAM, what'd be a good distrobution?
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[03:55:26] <@efneTI86> [prime38] I’ve used one adjective to describe myself. What is it?
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[03:56:04] <@efneTI86> [Tyler2] I no longer speak fluent dialup.
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[04:05:49] < DA|laptop> um this is different
[04:06:00]  * DA|laptop is using irssi
[04:06:08] < Nikky> Netham44: um, a server?
[04:06:28] < DA|laptop> why is my nick color the same as the background?
[04:06:28] < Nikky> I guess an xfce based distro would also work
[04:06:38] < Nikky> DA|laptop: because your terminal settings are messed up?
[04:06:58] < DA|laptop> um
[04:07:03] < DA|laptop> I'm using default settings
[04:07:15] < Nikky> Try changing it :)
[04:08:08] <@Andy_J> It is indeed your terminal program.
[04:08:25] <@Andy_J> A lot of GUI terminals default to black on white; irssi assumes a classical terminal of white on black
[04:09:38] < DA|laptop> okay
[04:09:44] < DA|laptop> I can't seem to figure out how to change colors
[04:09:45] < DA|laptop> at all
[04:09:54] < Nikky> are you running a gui?
[04:10:02] < Nikky> try edit->profiles
[04:10:05] < Nikky> or something along those lines
[04:10:10] <@Andy_J> What terminal program?
[04:10:12] < DA|laptop> I'm in the terminal
[04:10:22] < DA|laptop> Andy_J: irssi.....?
[04:10:26] <@Andy_J> Terminal ...
[04:10:31] < DA|laptop> andy
[04:10:36] < Nikky> Andy_J: maybe he's just using a shell
[04:10:38] < DA|laptop> I know NOTHING about linux
[04:10:38] < Nikky> no x
[04:10:39] <@Andy_J> xterm, konsole, gnome-terminal, etc.
[04:10:55] < DA|laptop> top of my window says Shell - Console
[04:11:10] < Nikky> help->about
[04:11:12] <@Andy_J> I'm going to assume gnome console then, which I don't know where it would be
[04:11:23] <@Andy_J> because xterm would say xterm and konsole would spell it konsole
[04:11:35] < Nikky> profile settings in gnome console are edit->profile
[04:11:40] <@Andy_J> should be profiles thing somewhere
[04:11:41] < DA|laptop> X Terminal for use with KDE
[04:11:46] <@Andy_J> Huh.
[04:11:51] < DA|laptop> is what it says
[04:11:53] <@Andy_J> Maybe they changed konsole around since I used it last
[04:11:59] < Nikky> lemme check
[04:12:06] < DA|laptop> I'm using the xandros build that came with my eeepc
[04:12:15] < Nikky> I think I have konsole installed
[04:12:34] < Nikky> settings->schema
[04:12:53] < DA|laptop> that is much better
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[04:13:56] < DA|laptop> I feel limited in this though, heh
[04:14:08] < DA|laptop> but I needed an IRC client on my laptop
[04:14:16] <@Andy_J> <3 irssi
[04:14:50] < DA|laptop> I don't have a nick list on the side, which bugs me
[04:15:01] <@Andy_J> One gets used to it quickly.
[04:15:06] <@Andy_J> That's what /n is for
[04:15:09] < DA|laptop> o.O and I can't scroll up?
[04:15:13] < Nikky> page up?
[04:15:14] < chronomex> I never used a nicklist ...
[04:15:25] < chronomex> try alt-P alt-N
[04:15:28] < chronomex> prev/next
[04:15:28] < DA|laptop> o.o this is really weird
[04:15:34] <@Andy_J> There is magic hax to get a nick list on the side if you really need it, but it doesn't work too well with screen
[04:15:35] < Nikky> maybe you just need xchat :)
[04:16:19] < chronomex> hehe
[04:16:35] < DA|laptop> well then maybe I'll look into that then
[04:16:59] <@Andy_J> I nevr find myself missing the nick list these days
[04:17:01] < DA|laptop> I think irssi supports multiple servers, but for a single window that has gui, I don't see how that's feasible at all
[04:17:03] <@Andy_J> and I rarely even bother with /n
[04:17:19] <@Andy_J> if I want to see if a particular person is present but idling I type the first few characters of their name and hit tab
[04:17:26] < chronomex> yeah
[04:17:26] < DA|laptop> well I'm sure I could get used to no nicklist
[04:17:32] < chronomex> irssi's tabcomplete is awesome
[04:17:43] < chronomex> ic<TAB> will complete i_c-Y
[04:17:45] < DA|laptop> yeah I do like the tab complete
[04:17:50] < DA|laptop> oh wow
[04:17:51] <@Andy_J> DA - alt+numbers to change windows
[04:17:56] < chronomex> also it skips leading _-[ etc
[04:18:02] < DA|laptop> Andy_J: ah okay
[04:18:16] <@Andy_J> or esc, number if alt+number doesn't work
[04:18:25] <@Andy_J> also alt+arrows to cycle them
[04:18:30] <@Andy_J> likewise esc, arrows
[04:18:32] < Nikky> Why are you running an older version?
[04:18:33] < DA|laptop> what's [Act: 1] mean?
[04:18:40] <@Andy_J> There is activiting in window 1
[04:18:40] < Nikky> activity in tab 1
[04:18:44] <@Andy_J> which is the status window
[04:18:46] < DA|laptop> I see.
[04:18:59] <@Andy_J> blue means join/part/general, white means people talking
[04:19:10] < DA|laptop> Nikky: I find installing things in linux a complete PITA
[04:19:18] < DA|laptop> so I got a debian package for irssi
[04:19:20] < Nikky> oh
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[04:19:24] < DA|laptop> the latest one I could find
[04:19:42] <@Andy_J> I would strongly recommend getting the adv_windowlist script
[04:19:46] < DA|laptop> everything I try to manually install that isn't .deb has dependancy errors and I have no idea how to deal with that
[04:19:52] < DA|laptop> which is why I can't figure out how to install blender yet
[04:19:59] <@Andy_J> it puts another line at the bottom of the screen showing what channel is in what window, and what key to get at it
[04:20:20] < DA|laptop> I
[04:20:34] < DA|laptop> I'm guessing theres a way to set your nick's color different from others, right?
[04:20:43] < Nikky> er, if you want
[04:20:58] <@Andy_J> I honestly don't know, I got the nickcolor script soon after starting using irssi and always used it since
[04:21:01] < DA|laptop> it's annoying to distinguish the difference with everything the same color
[04:21:10] <@Andy_J> I'm white, everyone else is more or less a different color
[04:21:11] < DA|laptop> I should probably get that
[04:21:22] <@Andy_J> it does a good job of keeping nicks of the same length as different colors
[04:21:35] < DA|laptop> heh
[04:21:47] <@Andy_J> Though you and chronomex are the same length and both blue ...
[04:22:06] < DA|laptop> haha
[04:22:15] <@Andy_J> It does wonders on servers with, say, NICKLEN=30
[04:22:17] < Nikky> I run it plain
[04:22:23] < DA|laptop> I think I'll try xchat though
[04:22:32] <@Andy_J> yeah, you might be better off with xchat
[04:22:34] < Nikky> only thing I changed was the timestamp format
[04:22:40] < Nikky> irssi grows on you
[04:22:42] <@Andy_J> just, irssi works best for what I do :)
[04:22:48] < DA|laptop> as irssi just seems painfully simple to me
[04:22:53] < Nikky> but its main strength is for screen+shell
[04:22:54] <@Andy_J> That's the point ;)
[04:23:04] < DA|laptop> I need /something/, lol
[04:23:23] < DA|laptop> blender needs glibc but I can't figure out how to install/add/whatever it
[04:23:23] < Nikky> do you normally run pidgin on your laptop?
[04:23:24] <@Andy_J> It's simple but has the most powerful scripting language you could ever ask for >_>
[04:23:34] < DA|laptop> Nikky: for AIM, yes
[04:23:39] < Nikky> DA|laptop: what kind of package manager does your laptop use?
[04:24:12] < DA|laptop> Synaptics
[04:24:45] < chronomex> no, that's a touchpad :P
[04:25:04] <@Andy_J> Surely it has apt-get?
[04:25:09] < chronomex> synaptic is the package manager
[04:25:13] < chronomex> Andy_J: it has to
[04:25:19] <@Andy_J> apt-get install xchat
[04:25:29] <@Andy_J> ... apt-get install irssi, too
[04:25:34] < chronomex> weeeellll it doesn't _have_ to strictly speaking but I'd be very surprised if not
[04:25:36] <@Andy_J> to get the proper install of it, not some random .deb
[04:25:51] <@Andy_J> How else can you install a .deb anyway?
[04:25:53] < DA|laptop> what?
[04:26:05] < DA|laptop> dpkg -i file.deb 
[04:26:13] < DA|laptop> or right-click in the file manager and select install
[04:26:21] < DA|laptop> actually sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[04:26:31] <@Andy_J> I would imagine it has a proper debian package manager if it can install .debs
[04:27:44] < chronomex> DA|laptop: yse
[04:27:44] < chronomex> yes
[04:28:30] < DA|laptop> apt-get can just reference to anything?
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[04:28:55] < Nikky> hey nice
[04:28:56] <@efneTI86> [Merth] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
[04:28:56] <@Andy_J> it's a package manager, it knows how to install stuff and any dependecies it may have
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[04:29:02] < Nikky> 50% of a 1GB creative mp3 player
[04:29:08] <@Andy_J> you might want to apt-get update    to sync the list of packages first
[04:29:14] < DA|laptop> yeah I'm done apt-get update
[04:29:17] < DA|laptop> I've(
[04:29:46] <@Andy_J> apt-get install xchat  should be all you need to do
[04:30:33] < DA|laptop> wow that's nifty
[04:31:21] <@Andy_J> and you may want to apt-get install irssi to get the newest version
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[04:33:26] < DA|laptop> do I need to close irssi?
[04:33:29] < DA|laptop> or does it not matter
[04:34:14] <@Andy_J> you shouldn't have to
[04:34:23] < DA|laptop> wow
[04:34:28] <@Andy_J> Hell, you can upgrade to a new version without restarting irssi
[04:34:39] <@Andy_J> /upgrade
[04:34:51] <@Andy_J> re-loads the binary from disk without dropping server connections
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[04:35:06] <@efneTI86> [Spengo\__] En Taro Adun, Executor
[04:35:17] <@Andy_J> My life for Aiur!
[04:35:24] < Spengo\__> :D
[04:36:09] < Spengo\__> protoss are cool
[04:36:11] < DA|laptop> I'm assuming that worked?
[04:36:13] < Spengo\__> they are annoying to play though imo
[04:36:24] < DA|laptop> I typed /upgrade
[04:36:48] < Spengo\__> basically turtle up on the first few places with resources you find until you get 6 carriers and then mega-raep everything
[04:36:51] < Spengo\__> hehe
[04:36:54] <@Andy_J> You did not leave.
[04:37:08] < Spengo\__> was he supposed to leave?
[04:37:27] < DA|laptop> it said I joined #tcpa and the join was synced in 1secs
[04:37:29] <@Andy_J> Nikky: what version was he on before?
[04:37:44] <@Andy_J> DA|laptop: yeah, from your side it looks like you reconnected =/
[04:37:51] <@Andy_J> But not to us.
[04:37:51] < DA|laptop> Spengo\__: the suicidal things, can't remember what they're called, from zerg destroy carriers very easily
[04:37:58] < Spengo\__> not 6
[04:38:01] < DA|laptop> ah that's weird
[04:38:05] < DA|laptop> spengo
[04:38:13] < DA|laptop> I've gone with 18 carriers
[04:38:22] < DA|laptop> and got insta-raped by those bomb things
[04:38:28] <@Andy_J> scourge
[04:38:32] < DA|laptop> yes, those
[04:38:35] < Spengo\__> they must have used a lot of them
[04:38:42] <@Andy_J> that's why you have arbiters and observers
[04:38:46] <@Andy_J> well, arbiters
[04:38:52] < DA|laptop> also if you're fighting someone that's also protoss, a scout spam can also kill off carriers
[04:38:53] <@Andy_J> observers aren't needed against zerg air
[04:39:22] < Spengo\__> scouts are expensive though
[04:39:23] < DA|laptop> personal experience from using protoss
[04:39:24] <@Andy_J> and you mass overlords and spore colonies quick so they can't see your carriers
[04:39:28] < Spengo\__> and they take forever to make
[04:40:00] < DA|laptop> um
[04:40:17] < DA|laptop> if you have like, 5 stargates, making enough scouts is not a problem
[04:40:22] < Spengo\__> heh
[04:40:23] < Spengo\__> ok
[04:40:23] < DA|laptop> they build 3-4x faster than carriers
[04:40:29] < DA|laptop> carriers take forever, not scouts
[04:40:30] < Spengo\__> well that's true
[04:40:37] < Spengo\__> technically they aren't building though, they are warping in
[04:40:59] < Spengo\__> I wonder if in starcraft 2 they will actually show stuff warping out of the big warp gate thingies in the protoss buildings
[04:41:21] < Spengo\__> instead of just appearing next to the building
[04:43:21] <@Andy_J> they better
[04:44:14] < DA|laptop> oh weird
[04:44:24] < DA|laptop> blender got added to my program list
[04:44:56] < chronomex> uhoh
[04:45:44] < Spengo\__> WILL IT BLEND?!
[04:47:06] < DA|laptop> haha
[04:47:10] < DA|laptop> chuck norris won't
[04:47:13] < DA|laptop> he
[04:47:17] < DA|laptop> will rise from the ashes
[04:47:46] < Spengo\__> LOL!
[04:47:55] < DA|laptop> you've seen that one right?
[04:47:58] < Spengo\__> there is a wikipedia admin that has a diaper fetish
[04:49:49] <+Tyler2> NIce
[04:49:58] <+Tyler2> Does he/she wear one?
[04:51:05] < DA|laptop> lol
[04:51:36] < Spengo\__> yeah I assume so
[04:52:05] < Spengo\__> "What am I besides a kid who isn't toilet-trained?" (note: age 21 when he wrote this.)
[04:53:03] < DA|laptop> I'm not sure how to set shortcuts in xandros yet
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[04:56:17] < chronomex> Spengo\__: I'm having trouble seeing why that's important
[04:56:28] < Spengo\__> it isn't
[04:56:31] < Spengo\__> it's just a funny thing
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[04:57:50] < DA|laptop> now to configure xchat\
[05:00:19] < DA|laptop> which may take awhile as settings layout is weird
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[05:01:14] < DA|laptop> ..
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[05:03:27] <+Tyler2> Heh, Freshman 15...
[05:04:58] < DA|laptop> hum
[05:05:35]  * DA|laptop can't seem to lock any settings he makes
[05:05:56] < DA|laptop> 800x480, I can't see the ok/cancel buttons at the bottom
[05:06:34] < DA|laptop> ah there we go
[05:06:45] <+ports> woohoo
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[05:11:17] < DA|laptop> I don't know how to set the color of my own font though
[05:12:39] < prime38> what do you guys think hardware prices will be like in a month
[05:13:10] < DA|laptop> o.O
[05:13:19] < DA|laptop> does ctrl+L clear the window?
[05:13:21] < chronomex> bit lower, as usual
[05:13:29] < chronomex> no, usually redraw
[05:13:38] < DA|laptop> well it cleared the window
[05:13:56] < DA|laptop> is it possible to change the color of my own text or am I forced to use gray
[05:13:57] <@Andy_J> dunno what it does in xhcat
[05:14:11] <@Andy_J> I honestly dont know. I don't think I ever figured it out in xchat aqua
[05:14:18] < DA|laptop> xchat aqua?
[05:15:11] <@Andy_J> os x version
[05:15:21] <@Andy_J> xchat + purdy OS X gui, pretty much
[05:16:36] < DA|laptop> ah
[05:16:56] < DA|laptop> if I could just change my own text color I'd be perfectly fine with this
[05:17:06] < DA|laptop> dark gray is not friendly as a text color
[05:18:12] < DA|laptop> xchat doesn't seem to give much customization in terms of colors
[05:18:17] < DA|laptop> unless it's mostly done in scripting
[05:18:58] < DA|laptop> probably not
[05:19:56] <+ports> wooho
[05:20:04] <+ports> anyone have a www.what.cd account?
[05:20:19] < DA|laptop> aha, found it
[05:23:09] < DA|laptop> hmm
[05:26:24] < DA|laptop> much better
[05:30:54] < Spengo\__> here we go, leave it on the back burner take it to the dry town yeeeaaah
[05:32:49] < DA|laptop> what's a good torrent program in linux? :p
[05:33:03] < DA|laptop> I don't know if utorrent is on linux
[05:33:08] < Spengo\__> whohoaheyeyeaheah
[05:34:04] < Spengo\__> DA|laptop should listen to here we go by dispatch
[05:34:08] < DA|laptop> lol
[05:34:14] < Spengo\__> also I just use ktorrent :P
[05:34:27] < Spengo\__> or sometimes utorrent in wine
[05:34:29] < Spengo\__> if I'm at school
[05:34:40] < Spengo\__> because it's the only protocol encryption that beats the filter there
[05:35:24] < Spengo\__> of course that usually simply results in my only torrenting in windows since my main box is booted to xp x64 like 90% of the time and is always on
[05:35:50] < DA|laptop> hmm
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[05:54:43] < prime38> should i do dual monitors or one comparably nicer, bigger monitor?
[05:55:46] <+Merthsoft> dual
[05:56:05] < DA|laptop> I'm not sure if azureus installed or not
[05:57:59]  * DA|laptop pokes merthsoft
[05:58:21] <+Merthsoft> so, guess who;s got a birthday comming really soon
[05:58:29] < DA|laptop> my friend, tomorrow?
[05:58:35] <+Merthsoft> well
[05:58:37] <+Merthsoft> i guess
[05:58:41] <+Merthsoft> but also me tuesday
[05:58:42] < DA|laptop> lol
[05:59:08] <+Merthsoft> also bed time
[05:59:13] <+Merthsoft> exam in 5 hours
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[06:03:17] < DA|laptop> hey, does apt-get clean up install files?
[06:03:22] < DA|laptop> I seem to be out of space.
[06:03:31] < PollTroll> yum does
[06:03:36] < DA|laptop> yum?
[06:03:45] < PollTroll> you should switch to a RH distro
[06:04:09] < PollTroll> yum is apt-get for rh, centos, fedora, and probably some other ones
[06:04:22] < DA|laptop> if I switched to anything else I'd go through complete hell trying to setup guis
[06:04:59] < DA|laptop> wtf
[06:05:15] < DA|laptop> I did apt-get help and the last line says "This APT has Super Cow Powers."
[06:05:16] < DA|laptop> lol
[06:06:33] <+sgm> apt-get moo
[06:06:50] <+sgm> aptitude moo
[06:07:17] < DA|laptop> well I'm out of free space :o
[06:07:36] < DA|laptop> is there an uninstall command of some sort?
[06:08:33] < PollTroll> yum remove
[06:09:01] < DA|laptop> I do not have a yum command
[06:09:08] < PollTroll> of course not
[06:09:51] < DA|laptop> I do not have space to install anything at all now x.x
[06:10:10] < DA|laptop> I don't think I even have 1mb
[06:10:18] < DA|laptop> but I don't know how to check how much I have left
[06:10:36] <+sgm> df -h in a shell
[06:11:57] <+sgm> and apt-get remove to deinstall
[06:12:24] < DA|laptop> ah
[06:12:27] < DA|laptop> that'll work then
[06:12:39] < DA|laptop> yeah I don't even have 1mb
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[06:13:07] <@efneTI86> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
[06:13:08] < DA|laptop> awesome! I can't uninstall.
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[06:13:30] < DA|laptop> wants me to do dpkg --configure -a, and doing so requires disk space that I don't have
[06:13:40]  * DA|laptop goes to see if he can free up anything at all
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[06:14:03] < Netham44> DA|laptop, 
[06:14:09] < PollTroll> you should at least remove linux
[06:14:17] < Netham44> I seem to recall some Ubuntu distros having issues logging in with a full HD
[06:14:19] < PollTroll> that'll free up enough for an OS that doesn't suck
[06:14:25] < Netham44> so you might want to keep that in mind
[06:15:48] <+sgm> The downloaded packages are stored in /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:15:58] <+sgm> So you can safely blow that away.
[06:16:13] <+sgm> "du -csh /var/cache/apt/archives" tells you how much you'll free up.
[06:16:32] < DA|laptop> this is a debian-based distro
[06:17:07] < PollTroll> so is Ubuntu
[06:17:34] < DA|laptop> oh
[06:17:54] < DA|laptop> I'd free up 49mb, heh
[06:19:23] <+ports> anyone watch my name is earl?
[06:22:33] < DA|laptop> goddamnit
[06:22:47] < DA|laptop> it's saying /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing
[06:22:53] < DA|laptop> after I deleted everything in archives
[06:22:59] < DA|laptop> and I can't do apt-get -f install
[06:23:11] < prime38> ports: a few eps
[06:23:13] < DA|laptop> which also means I can't remove some programs
[06:23:15] <+sgm> It's a directory. mkdir it
[06:23:20] < DA|laptop> ugh
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[06:31:59] < prime38> uno anyone?
[06:40:23] < DA|laptop> no
[06:40:33] < DA|laptop> I don't even remember how to play, haha
[06:40:43] < prime38> can the uno be played by anyone?
[06:40:54] < prime38> or just people with accounts?
[06:41:15] < DA|laptop> I thought it could be played by anyone, unless that was changed
[06:44:08] < Nikky> apt-get clean
[06:44:13] < Nikky> that clears out /archives
[06:44:14] < Nikky> :)
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[06:49:06] < DA|laptop> that would have saved me the trouble
[06:49:08] < DA|laptop> but oh well :P
[06:52:01] < DA|laptop> good for learning anyhow
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[07:00:21] < DA|laptop> okay.. does xchat support multiple servers?
[07:00:23]  * tr1p1ea meows randomly on peoples heads
[07:01:03] < DA|laptop> lol
[07:03:23] <+DSP_Lord> a kitty!
[07:03:25]  * DSP_Lord pets
[07:03:44] < prime38> only one way to find out... /server...
[07:04:08] < DA|laptop> I tried /server -m and ended up disconnecting from this one
[07:07:28] < DA|laptop> ./configure --disable-nls
[07:07:30] < DA|laptop> oops
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[08:28:36] < tr1p1ea> nah nah nah-nah nah nah ... hey hey-a .. goodbye!
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[09:03:33] < tr1p1ea> im off for some food-stuffs
[09:03:35] < tr1p1ea> later!
[09:11:37] <+DSP_Lord> bai
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[10:17:40] < _krisk_> muh
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[10:27:56] <@efneTI86> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing?
[10:28:04] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v rivereye] by efneTI92
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[12:27:46] < al_b> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/22/ogc_logo/
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[12:54:55] < _krisk_> yeah
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[13:16:35] <@efneTI86> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
[13:16:46] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v KermM] by efneTI92, etaonrish
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[13:22:10] <@efneTI86> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing?
[13:22:16] <+KermM> no
[13:22:18] <+KermM> it's not
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[13:22:49] < _krisk_> :?
[13:23:13] <+KermM> I was responding to rivereye's infoline
[13:23:33] < _krisk_> oh yeha i have efneTI86 ignored
[13:23:45] < _krisk_> carry om
[13:23:46] < _krisk_> n
[13:23:53] <+KermM> lol
[14:24:06] < _krisk_> also blabl
[14:24:14] <+KermM> quite
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[14:29:38] <+KermM> hey tifreak
[14:29:41] <+KermM> what's new?
[14:29:43] < _krisk_> hi
[14:30:56] < tifreak> nothing much :P
[14:31:22] < tifreak> how bout you?
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[14:32:59] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] I need an infoline
[14:33:19] < Sir_Lewk> anyone here ever mess around with Xephyr?
[14:33:44] < Sir_Lewk> I'm trying to get direct rendering working in it
[14:33:51] < _krisk_> http://www.myspace.com/xephyr   ?
[14:34:15] < Sir_Lewk> lol, no
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[14:38:31] < Sir_Lewk> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/Xephyr <== that Xephyr ;P
[14:42:03] < Sir_Lewk> also, this looks like tons of fun: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/os-mltihed/index.html
[14:42:13] < Sir_Lewk> brb
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[14:54:52] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] I need an infoline
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[16:21:48] < Sir_Lewk> http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/os-mltihed/index.html
[16:22:00] < Sir_Lewk> epic-ness is going to prevail methinks
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[16:33:25] < _krisk_> what's so epic about multiple monitors?
[16:33:43] <@Andy_J> Moar pr0n.
[16:34:11] < Sir_Lewk> multiple monitors, *on different machines*
[16:34:12] < tifreak> lol
[16:39:49] < _krisk_> ok, what's so epic about multiple monitors on different machines?
[16:41:09] < Sir_Lewk> MOR POWER
[16:41:17] < _krisk_> psu?
[16:42:05] < Sir_Lewk> the convience of being able to run a trillion apps seamlessly together, without the performance hit
[16:42:10] < Sir_Lewk> and just the leet factor
[16:42:24] < _krisk_> hmm
[16:42:29] < _krisk_> what kind of machines are you using this on?
[16:43:28] <@Andy_J> lmao
[16:43:29] <@Andy_J> "Relatively modern CPUs in your setup -- anything above a 486 should be usable (although a bit slow)"
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[16:43:41] <@Andy_J> A 486 is still "relatively modern"?!
[16:43:47] < _krisk_> and at least ethernet !
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[17:25:39] < _krisk_> ok what are fun things to do with 1 friend?
[17:25:43] < _krisk_> in a city
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[17:25:49] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] I need an infoline
[17:30:09] < chronomex> urban exploring
[17:30:22] < Spengo> http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/ hahaha
[17:30:31] < _krisk_> in a city that is quite wellknown to both
[17:30:39] < chronomex> urbexing I say again
[17:31:03] < chronomex> what city, who's the friend, etc
[17:31:11] < _krisk_> amsterdam
[17:31:27] < chronomex> there's got to be stuff to do there
[17:31:38] < _krisk_> obviously
[17:32:23] < _krisk_> we always play billiarts but it gets old fast if everybody else cant come along time after time again
[17:32:40] < _krisk_> and i know some alt/goth/metal things but thats not for him
[17:36:02] < Sir_Lewk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hibaFjxAQAg&feature=related
[17:39:17] < Spengo> lol Sir_Lewk 
[17:40:11] < Sir_Lewk> that's what I'm setting up
[17:40:12] < Spengo> now what they gotta do is make it be able to compensate for the different screen sizes and the distance between monitors
[17:40:18] < Sir_Lewk> though with less machines :D
[17:40:50] < _krisk_> what would it compensate?
[17:40:59] < _krisk_> i mean in what way?
[17:41:01] < chronomex> the epenis
[17:41:26] < Sir_Lewk> what if there was more space in between monitors then the window was wide, would windows be able to get "lost" in between?
[17:41:52] < _krisk_> what they really need to do is get rid of those edges we have around monitors
[17:42:30] < chronomex> yeah ...
[17:42:45] < Spengo> you know how in games that use multiple monitors
[17:42:53] < Spengo> they compensate for the little space between the screens
[17:43:13] < Spengo> so it looks like a complete picture, but just as if you were looking through a window with multiple frames
[17:43:25] < DarkAuron> or dividers anyways
[17:43:29] < _krisk_> yes that makes sense in 3d games but nothing else
[17:43:33] < Sir_Lewk> meh, whatever
[17:43:37] < Sir_Lewk> that is leet enough for me
[17:43:41] < Spengo> hehe
[17:44:05] < chronomex> awesome
[17:46:08] < Sir_Lewk> zomg, forgot I had to compile shit with gentoo
[17:46:37] < _krisk_> lol how could you forget
[17:47:05] < Sir_Lewk> well
[17:47:16] < Sir_Lewk> I forgot to start a screen session after sshing in
[17:47:34] < Sir_Lewk> now I have to leave my laptop in my dorm or redo it later
[17:47:38] < Sir_Lewk> while it finishes
[17:48:42] < Nikky> liololololololol
[17:49:00] < DarkAuron> Nikky: this isn't arfenhouse
[17:49:34] < Nikky> liololololololol
[17:50:24] <+KermM> </newb>
[17:50:41] < _krisk_> /fail
[17:51:25] < Netham45> that's TCPA for you.
[17:51:37] < _krisk_> Known bugs without workarounds:
[17:51:38] < _krisk_>     * Impossible to win.
[17:51:39] < _krisk_> :O
[17:51:47] < Nikky> lololol
[17:51:49] < Netham45> lol
[17:51:49] < chronomex> hah
[17:51:50] < DarkAuron> haha
[17:51:55] < Sir_Lewk> liol
[17:51:56] < chronomex> what game is that?
[17:52:00] < _krisk_> Crawl 4.1 alpha
[17:52:01] < Nikky> Your nick is stupid, Netham45.
[17:52:10] < Netham45> Nikky, ok?
[17:52:22] < Netham45> I really don't care. :)
[17:52:52] < Nikky> I liked how you tried to flood me off yesterday.
[17:52:56] < Netham45> I did?
[17:53:01] < Nikky> Those "connection closed" quits were really cute. :)
[17:53:26] < Netham45> I'm sorry, but I don't know what you are talking about.
[17:53:38] < Nikky> I'm sure you don't.
[17:53:54] < Nikky> I don't know why we tolerate you.
[17:54:08] < Netham45> huh?
[17:54:11] < Netham45> what'd I do?
[17:54:44] < chronomex> you're netham, you don't need to do anything more
[17:54:46] < chronomex> nor should you
[17:55:28] < chronomex> ;)
[17:55:33] < _krisk_> bawww drama
[17:55:34] < Netham45> ok...
[17:56:03] < _krisk_> so anyway what are fun things, similar to going to a movie or things like that, to do
[17:56:10] < Netham45> I actually thought I did well keeping from flooding nikky off yesterday when he took my nick
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[18:17:23] <@efneTI86> [[1]Netham] Beware.
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[18:27:25] <@efneTI86> [[1]Netham] Beware.
[18:30:27] < _krisk_> when is mother's day?
[18:30:37] < [1]Netham> 11th, iirc.
[18:30:44] < _krisk_> good
[18:31:13] < _krisk_> what was the rule for it? xth yday in z
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[19:06:36] <@Andy_J> 2, sun, may, I think
[19:06:42] <@Andy_J> 2th. Yes.
[19:08:55] < chronomex> today is the 2th but not sunday
[19:09:20] < _krisk_> he means second sunday of may
[19:09:39] < chronomex> bah sundays
[19:22:39] < Milayrdo> !alive
[19:22:48] <@Andy_J> !dead
[19:23:28] < DarkAuron> AHAHAHAHAHAHAA
[19:23:28] < _krisk_> !blub
[19:23:31] < DarkAuron> oh god
[19:23:45] < _krisk_> FAIL Unknown command
[19:23:55] < DarkAuron> memories are funny
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[19:54:06] <@efneTI86> [prime38] I’ve used one adjective to describe myself. What is it?
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[20:09:52] < BT9300> hey guys
[20:10:43] < _krisk_> lu
[20:11:09] < chronomex> hi BT9300
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[20:12:18] < btu__> kinda quiet right now
[20:12:31] < btu__> w/e
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[20:16:33] < _krisk_> ?
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[20:21:50] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] I need an infoline
[20:23:11] < Sir_Lewk>   http://greensboro.rhinotimes.com/Articles-i-2008-04-24-177772.112113_JK_Rowling_Lexicon_and_Oz.html  Scott Card pwning Rowling :D
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[20:50:13] <@efneTI86> [[1]Netham] Beware.
[20:50:23] < chronomex> hey I'm going to have lunch
[20:50:27] < chronomex> who wants to eat with me
[20:51:14] < _krisk_> eat out?
[20:51:46] < chronomex> no, not really
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[20:51:52] <@efneTI86> [DSP_Lord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
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[20:52:20] < _krisk_> eat out gothic chicks then?
[20:52:43] < chronomex> ... no
[20:52:57] < chronomex> I just want someone to hang out with while I eat
[20:52:59] < chronomex> you can eat too
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[20:54:04] < _krisk_> i am eating
[20:54:09] < chronomex> nice
[20:54:16] < chronomex> bbialw
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[21:07:38] < rukus5> Hello?
[21:08:02] < rukus5> noob needing help putting a prog on my calculator, got it all connected with ti-connect, just having trouble finding where to put the files
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[21:12:33] <@efneTI86> [DSP_Lord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
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[21:29:27] <@efneTI86> [DSP_Lord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
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[22:01:56] < exal> is there a channel faq I should read before asking a programming question?
[22:02:28] <+tifreak> what kind of programming question do you have?
[22:03:53] < exal> i just bought a ti89 and am trying to find out if it is possible to program in ti-basic on a pc.  I installed ti flash studio but it will not run due to jvm errors. 
[22:04:16] < prime38> you want ti-graph link
[22:04:23] <+tifreak> what pc os do you have?
[22:04:30] < exal> winxp
[22:04:31] < prime38> you wont be able to use its linking abilites
[22:04:37] < prime38> (with USB)
[22:04:39] < exal> does the cable that came with the calc not work?
[22:04:42] < prime38> but you can program
[22:04:43] <+tifreak> Graphlink should work on it then
[22:04:55] < prime38> ti-graph link is so old it doesnt support USB
[22:04:56] <+tifreak> you need TI-Connect to send programs
[22:04:59] < prime38> or the silverlink
[22:05:11] < exal> i have the ti-connect that came on the cd with the calc
[22:05:46] <+tifreak> you might want to make sure it is Version 1.6
[22:05:54] < exal> it is
[22:06:00] < prime38> ti-connect can do it, i believe
[22:06:03] <+tifreak> Should be, but you never know if ti was intelligent enough to update the CD..
[22:06:09] < exal> haha
[22:06:13] <+tifreak> ti-connect cannot edit programs
[22:06:14] < exal> and i work at ti!
[22:06:29] <+tifreak> can edit lists, matrices, etc
[22:06:32] < prime38> but, you can use ti-graphlink89 and it can program on computer, and then you save program and send with ti-conenct
[22:06:42] < exal> so is there a pc based tool for editing basic programs?
[22:06:47] < prime38> YES
[22:06:49] < exal> oh
[22:06:51] < exal> sorry
[22:06:52] < prime38> did you read any of that
[22:06:55] <+tifreak> Just TI-graphlink...
[22:07:04] < prime38> no tifreak
[22:07:07] < exal> i hit enter too soon
[22:07:07] < prime38> just no
[22:07:19] < prime38> use ti-graph link to program
[22:07:23] < prime38> and ti-connect to send'
[22:08:07] < exal> so, ti-graph link to program, ti-connect to transfer?
[22:08:22] <+tifreak> yes
[22:08:47] < chronomex> :(
[22:08:51] < exal> thanks for answering. I hate being the new guy
[22:09:04] <+tifreak> its ok
[22:09:06] < prime38> make sure you get the 89 version of graphlink
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[22:11:36] < exal> grr
[22:11:39] < exal> have to buy it
[22:11:47] < prime38> no
[22:11:48] < exal> always something.....
[22:11:53] < prime38> its free....
[22:14:40] <+tifreak> http://education.ti.com/educationportal/downloadcenter/SoftwareList.do?website=US&tabId=1&paneId=7
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[22:15:42] < exal> i found it.  thanks for helping.  Time to reboot (i miss linux).
[22:16:18] <+tifreak> no prob
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[22:19:52] <+ports> Windows XP Professional, uptime 3days 6hrs 20mins 38secs
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[22:20:45] <@efneTI86> [Netham45] Beware.
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[22:38:46] < bt__> ?
[22:39:27] <+patz2009> ?
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[22:42:25] <+tifreak> eh?
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[22:46:03] <@efneTI86> [DSP_Lord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
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[23:01:57] < prime38> who wants to play uno?
[23:04:05] <+DSP_Lord> just join the damn channel :P
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[23:11:43] < prime38> no one except you idles in that channel i guess
[23:12:33] < Nikky>  /join #calcgames.games
[23:12:41] < Nikky> :)
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[23:36:39] <@efneTI86> [Tyler2] I no longer speak fluent dialup.
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[23:53:49] <@efneTI86> [[1]Netham] Beware.
[23:53:57] < [1]Netham> damnit
[23:54:04] < [1]Netham> my dad sucks
[23:54:54] < [1]Netham> the moron hung speakers on my cord covers, stabbing my ethernet with a screw.
[23:55:26] < [1]Netham> some people shouldn't be allowed to touch screw drivers.
[23:55:43] <+tifreak> lol
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[23:56:30]  * Randomist finally has a TI-89T.
[23:56:41] < [1]Netham> congrats
[23:58:56] <@Grue> ...and this affects me how? :)
[23:59:12] < [1]Netham> you sound like Nikky.
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[23:59:45] <@Grue> Heh, no, I got that line before I ever came on IRC (and that was a long time ago)
[23:59:57] < Netham45> you still sound like nikky.
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