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[00:00:28] < Randomist> And vise versa, too, unless the 84+ app uses any of the clock stuff.
[00:00:42] < r3tspaN1> ok thanks man !
[00:02:12] < r3tspaN1> hmm weird, on tilp sometimes if i wait a while then transfer. it shows the USB d/c then r/c then it freezes
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[00:02:54] < Randomist> [Shrugs.]  TiLP is weird, sometimes.
[00:03:47] < Nikky> Hi zpowers! :D
[00:05:28] < r3tspaN1> phoenix star - ? graphics adjusted to make it star wars like
[00:07:00] < Randomist> This one:  http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/268/26828.html
[00:08:51] < r3tspaN1> _VTI Or no ?
[00:09:20] < Randomist> No.
[00:16:58] < Spengo> YOU MUST CONTRUCT ADDITIONAL... oh you >_<
[00:17:12] < Spengo> I don't need no more additional pylons!
[00:17:23] < Randomist> O.o
[00:18:43] < Randomist> Your randomness stupefies me.
[00:19:30] <+KermM> tifreak
[00:19:32] <+KermM> erm
[00:19:37] <+KermM> ignore that
[00:19:40] < Spengo> my life for Aiur
[00:20:24] <@Andy_J> here's for the swarm
[00:22:51] < Spengo> almost sounds like they are saying "my wife for hire"
[00:24:37] < Randomist> Is there a window manager lighter than XFCE, but uses GTK?
[00:26:24] < Nikky> lighter than XFCE?
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[00:26:58] < Spengo> http://pylon.ytmnd.com/ hehe
[00:27:36] < Randomist> Yes... I know I could get Fluxbox or something, but I want to make themes match without having to do too much work.
[00:28:00] < Randomist> ^- That wasn't supposed to get sent, but I hit 'Enter' in the wrong window.
[00:28:06] < i_c-Y> what kinda retarded idea are you implementing today, Randomist ?
[00:28:12] < Spengo> I like the the overmind when he says "more vespene gas"
[00:28:18] < Spengo> almost sounds like he wants "more lesbian gas"
[00:30:36] < Randomist> i_c-Y:  I'm looking for a window manger... something lighter than XFCE, but still uses GTK, so everything matches, and I only have to edit the .gtkrc files to mess with colors and et cetera.
[00:31:36] < Nikky> Everyone join #cemetech yet?
[00:32:05] < Randomist> I'm still banned there for four years.
[00:32:09] < Randomist> Or something like that.
[00:32:15] < Nikky> 4 years?
[00:32:28] < Nikky> 142 days, it seems
[00:32:28] < i_c-Y> Randomist: id not bother - theres nothing of note below xfce with gtk+
[00:32:42] < Nikky> and I'm sure kerm can set +e for you :)
[00:33:16] <+KermM> wow, Randomisk
[00:33:20] <+KermM> *t
[00:33:31] <+KermM> you got pwnt hardcore by the bots
[00:34:03] < Randomist> They show no mercy.  :P
[00:35:04] <+KermM> I set you a +e
[00:35:42] < Nikky> you have to set it on the bots with .help +exempt
[00:36:08] <+KermM> ah
[00:38:28] < i_c-Y> why does firefox suck?
[00:38:39] < Randomist> It doesn't for me.
[00:38:40] < Nikky> because it does
[00:38:46] < Randomist> It only uses between five and 15 MB now.
[00:38:51] < Nikky> IE is better than that FF crap
[00:40:44] < i_c-Y> http://www.vgcats.com/super/?strip_id=0 looks like its going to be better than vgcats
[00:41:07] < Randomist> How much RAM does Opera use - I forget?
[00:41:15] < i_c-Y> less than firefox :)
[00:41:27] < i_c-Y> cause firefox can derelick my balls, cap-i-tan!
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[00:41:53] <@efneTI86> [Netham45] Beware.
[00:42:45] < i_c-Y> Randomist: are you using your own build of firefox or swiftfox?
[00:43:14] < i_c-Y> actually though, that wouldnt make sense on a VIA cpu i suppose.
[00:43:24] < Randomist> i_c-Y:  My own build.
[00:43:27] < i_c-Y> but the idea of a "swiftfox" fork indicates something is wrong.
[00:43:40] < i_c-Y> plus -O3 versus firefox's regular -O is another issue.
[00:45:30] < i_c-Y> i suppose we should be happy though that Randomist isnt using stupid shit like iceweasel or swiftfox or the EVEN dumber swiftweasel (yes, it does exist)
[00:45:39] < i_c-Y> though id wonder how it goes on your machine
[00:45:48] < Netham45> augh
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[00:47:36] < Randomist> Swiftweasel really does suck.  It's two-an-a-half times slower than the default Firefox.
[00:48:30] < i_c-Y> well, they are building with -O3
[00:48:33] < i_c-Y> yes. -O 3
[00:48:40] < i_c-Y> as in that gcc option nobody uses for good reason
[00:50:06] < i_c-Y> luckily nobody takes iceweasel seriously
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[00:50:30] < Spengo> except Netham45 
[00:50:31] < i_c-Y> you know what we need?
[00:50:39] < Netham45> more sporks
[00:50:52] < i_c-Y> we need to shoop one of those "Id rather go naked" PETA ads against firefox and its bretheren.
[00:50:54] < Netham45> and no greets
[00:51:23] < i_c-Y> greets suck
[00:51:29] < i_c-Y> i clicked the wrong choice though
[00:51:33] < Netham45> i_c-Y, did you vote in the poll?
[00:51:34] < Netham45> >.>
[00:51:43] < Netham45> I'll vote through 2 proxies to offset it.
[00:52:03] < Spengo> poll?
[00:52:09] < Netham45> Spengo, topic.
[00:52:11] < Randomist> "I'd rather use IE."
[00:52:23] < Netham45> I'd rather use IE than use Firefox
[00:52:28] < Netham45> I'd rather use Opera than use IE
[00:52:38] < Spengo> yay no greets
[00:52:42] < Netham45> Opera >>>>>>>>>>> IE >>> FF
[00:52:43] < i_c-Y> though the issue with that is ...
[00:52:56] < i_c-Y> people will use FF so that more people make those ads :-/
[00:53:00] < i_c-Y> new plan i think
[00:53:02] < Randomist> Now, if only I could compile Opera "-Os"...
[00:53:03] < Spengo> wat IE? O_o
[00:53:08] < Spengo> Netham45's gone batshit
[00:53:12] < Netham45> dude
[00:53:18] < Nikky> Netham45 is right
[00:53:19] < Netham45> firefox has more security holes than IE7 does
[00:53:23] < Nikky> exactly
[00:53:27] < i_c-Y> IE is better.
[00:53:28] < Nikky> IE7 rules
[00:53:30] < Netham45> IE7 is pretty secure, it just renders like shit.
[00:53:40] < Nikky> firefox is for fanbois
[00:54:00] < i_c-Y> granted you're not comparing IE 5.5 or 6 series to Firefox 1.5 or 2, the security and resource usage is better on the IE side.
[00:54:22] < Netham45> yes, Firefox 1.5 & 2 were better than the comparable IE versions
[00:54:28] < Netham45> but IMO, IE has surpassed Firefox.
[00:54:44] < i_c-Y> Randomist: you do know the build teams already use -O right?
[00:54:48] < Netham45> Microsoft is really putting security at a high standard.
[00:54:58] < i_c-Y> for FF and probably for Opera too
[00:55:01] < Netham45> what's -O?
[00:55:03] < Spengo> ff3 is in development
[00:55:05] <+KermM> optimize flag
[00:55:07] < i_c-Y> optimization level for GCC
[00:55:08] < Netham45> ah
[00:55:23] < Randomist> Is -O smaller than -Os?
[00:55:43] < Netham45> spengo: What you see is pretty much what you are going to get with FF3, it's too late to add any new features or anything to it, all that is going to happen is bug fixes from now on.
[00:55:59] < Randomist> I didn't see that one in the CFLAGS manual.
[00:56:06] < Spengo> I've messed with a couple of the betas
[00:56:14] < Spengo> most addons don't work with them yet though
[00:56:17] < i_c-Y> Randomist: -Os is probably better
[00:56:24] < Randomist> Oh.
[00:56:37] < i_c-Y> -Os is -O2 except with no optimizatoins that increase size.
[00:56:41] < Netham45> Spengo, yea, people havn't rewritten them yet.
[00:56:48] < i_c-Y> (in most cases) 
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[00:57:02] < i_c-Y> its not hard to make code that blows up with any optimization level
[00:57:07] < Netham45> NO addons work with the FF4 Pre-Alphas yet though
[00:57:27] < i_c-Y> i hope Firefox catches on fire
[00:58:13] < Netham45> anyone here think that Safari is a good browser on Windows?
[00:58:15] < E-JL> -O3 ftw!
[00:58:16] < Netham45> it's damn fast.
[00:58:33] < E-JL> i have heard only worse about that
[00:58:37] < Netham45> I don't know how secure it is though.
[00:58:37] < E-JL> on windows
[00:58:39] < Netham45> it's really fast.
[00:58:44] < Randomist> lol -O3.  I tried -O3 once when my other computer was alive.
[00:58:50] < E-JL> it is secure
[00:58:55] < Randomist> It made everything slow.
[00:59:00] < Netham45> E-JL, on Windows or Mac?
[00:59:07] < E-JL> Netham45: on windows
[00:59:23] < E-JL> but i believe it doesn't open some of the pages
[00:59:33] < E-JL> after it's based to khtml
[01:00:01] < Randomist> So, it is like Konqueror for Windows, almost?
[01:00:27] < E-JL> nope
[01:00:31] < Netham45> huh?
[01:00:31] < i_c-Y> safari is crap on windows
[01:00:40] < Netham45> I thought it was based off of WebToolKit or something like that?
[01:00:51] < i_c-Y> Webkit
[01:00:54] < E-JL> Randomist: safari uses khtml on mac as well (and on linux)
[01:00:56] < i_c-Y> or rather WebKit
[01:01:03] < E-JL> they have made some changes to it
[01:01:50] < E-JL> so it's not same as konqueror
[01:02:07] < i_c-Y> KHTML (and KJS) is the original KDE team browser/ JS renderer. Apple forked it. 
[01:02:17] < i_c-Y> and that is what we now call WebKit.
[01:02:26] < i_c-Y> Konqurer team still works off their code base
[01:02:38] < Randomist> Oh, yeah, E-JL, thanks for the Turmion Kätilöt torrent!
[01:04:01] < E-JL> np
[01:04:20] < i_c-Y> ooh
[01:04:22] < i_c-Y> opera 9.5 b2
[01:04:23] < i_c-Y> :D
[01:04:37]  * i_c-Y downloads
[01:04:48]  * Randomist digs around for it in Emerge.
[01:05:07] < i_c-Y> you're on gentoo?
[01:05:46] < Randomist> Yes.  And it didn't take that long to set up, either, only a day.
[01:06:12] < i_c-Y> wasteoftime :)
[01:06:32] < i_c-Y> im probably going to install centos on this sooner or later
[01:07:49] < Randomist> Emerge was mean when it was installing everything and put the huge beasts back-to-back, so I was fuming when it said there was only two packages left, and it bust out compiling GCC and Glibc.
[01:09:45] < Randomist> I'd still be using Arch Linux now, but it takes them forever to update the packages in the user repository.
[01:11:55] < i_c-Y> so guys
[01:12:07] < i_c-Y> its apparantly art if you can turn on lights in a sequence to produce a letter
[01:12:25] < Randomist> Its apparently art if you hang a dog.
[01:14:29] < chronomex> hang?
[01:14:36] < chronomex> I've seen starve, but hang?
[01:16:22] < Randomist> Think it is this:  http://hubpages.com/hub/It-kills-dog-art--Guillermo-Vargas-Habacuc
[01:16:42] < E-JL> have you heard the joke how to make a dog to mew
[01:16:57] < chronomex> um, no Randomist, that's a parking spot
[01:22:05] < Randomist> Is my connection going out or something.  I keep seeing parenthesis in the window title.
[01:23:06] < chronomex> E-JL: no, do tell
[01:24:05] < E-JL> first you freeze it and then put it to circular saw
[01:24:32] < chronomex> um, I don't quite understand
[01:24:38] < Randomist> Me, neither.
[01:24:56] < Randomist> Sounds like it could be a new "Saw" movie, though.
[01:25:10] < E-JL> http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Images/Products/size_3/DW62.JPG have you ever heard sound of this
[01:25:17] < E-JL> when it hits to wood
[01:25:26] < chronomex> oh lol
[01:25:31] < chronomex> myeewwwwww
[01:27:06] < Randomist> I should tell that tomorrow in my Ag class.  :P
[01:27:13] < E-JL> other bad animal joke is how to make cat to say woof? douse it to gasoline and drop burning match
[01:27:38] < E-JL> Randomist: i bet every girl like you after that
[01:28:15] < Randomist> Haha, and most of the chicks in my Ag classes are animal rights freaks.
[01:28:20] < i_c-Y> Ag?
[01:28:27] < Randomist> They go crazy when they play the slaughter videos.
[01:28:44] < chronomex> agriculture
[01:29:17] < E-JL> i have heard these jokes from my father
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[01:34:41] < Randomist> I wonder if there is something better than Last.FM.
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[01:34:50] < Randomist> Or Jamendo
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[01:35:51] < chronomex> Randomist: better?
[01:36:29] < Randomist> Or has a larger repository of free music.
[01:37:05] < chronomex> ah
[01:38:11] < Randomist> Jamendo is pretty cool, though, now, if another media player had a plug-in for it besides Rhythmbox, which I don't like so much.
[01:41:03] < Nikky> Rhythmbox kicks ass
[01:41:23] < Randomist> I like Exaile better.
[01:41:48] < Nikky> exaile sucks
[01:42:20] < Randomist> Rhytmbox is nice, but it is too bulky, and uses up a good chunk of my memory.
[01:42:40] < Nikky> :(
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[01:47:03] < Randomist> Nikky:  Would you suggest anything else besides Rhytmbox, or is Rhytmbox your definite number one media player?
[01:47:18] < Nikky> WMP
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[01:47:43] < Randomist> And I happen to have version six of that installed right now.  :P
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[01:51:34] <+tifreak> 'lo gents
[01:51:49] < Netham45> 'lo
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[01:52:23] <+DrDnar> I could write a single line of TI-BASIC code that displays the date in a format like "Monday, April 28th, 2008".
[01:52:39] <+DrDnar> It'd be about four or five screenfulls long.
[01:54:03] <+DrDnar> It's likely the longest, least useful single expression of TI-BASIC code ever written.
[01:54:09] < Randomist> Too bad there is no strftime for 84+s.
[01:54:22] <+DrDnar> That's why I wrote it.
[01:54:27] < chronomex> http://ginasiomental.com/016.jpg ooh all the cool people together
[01:54:38] <+DrDnar> It's a hell of a line.
[01:55:10] <+DrDnar> But, on more serious matters, I'm nearly done my first game in assembly.
[01:55:20] <+DrDnar> I just a little bug to care of. . .
[01:55:24] < Nikky> yay!
[01:56:06]  * Randomist swats at emerge, who is is eating up all his CPU time.
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[01:56:45] <+DrDnar> I once did something to the effect of emerge X. Took over a day.
[01:57:16] < E-JL> i once have installed gentoo to pentium mmx 233
[01:57:20] < E-JL> took a week
[01:57:26] < Randomist> Emerge keeps wanting to eat up all my CPU.
[01:57:37] < E-JL> but x works perfectly
[01:57:50] < Randomist> To the point that everything is REALLY jerky and the mouse is even freezing up for seconds.
[01:58:05] < Randomist> But I swear I have PORTAGE_NICENESS set to five.
[02:00:16] < chronomex> did you try -fenable-rickroll ?
[02:00:38] < Randomist> No, I am not ricing CFLAGS.  :)
[02:00:49] < chronomex> ricing?
[02:00:54] < i_c-Y> did you make sure to enable udma?
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[02:02:37] < Randomist> i_c-Y:  I forgot - how do I check that without hdparm?
[02:04:28] < i_c-Y> why not use hdparm?
[02:04:37] < chronomex> maybe he don't have it
[02:04:43] < i_c-Y> riiiiiiight.
[02:04:54] < Randomist> I gotta wait for something to finish before I can get it, though.
[02:05:12] < Randomist> Plus, I got an 'sda' drive, too, so I guess I need sdaparm, too...
[02:05:23]  * Randomist takes out the first 'too'.
[02:06:26] < i_c-Y> your machine has sata?
[02:06:35] < Randomist> I have a SATA drive and an IDE drive.
[02:06:39] <+tifreak> should have been an 'as well' at the end ;)
[02:06:47] < Randomist> My system is installed on the IDE; my home drive is on the SATA.
[02:06:53] < chronomex> no, hdparm works on all hdds
[02:07:31] < i_c-Y> then id hdparm on the IDE drive.
[02:07:57] < i_c-Y> you dont enable dma on sata
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[02:08:32] < Randomist> I should put the system on the SATA, maybe, but I don't trust having my home directory on the IDE one.
[02:09:11] < i_c-Y> also is all your  chipset stuff installed and what not
[02:10:04] < Randomist> Yeah, I checked all that stuff off in the kernel configuration.
[02:10:47] < i_c-Y> how big are the sata and ide drives?
[02:10:57] < Randomist> They are both 80GB.
[02:11:00] < i_c-Y> you could md your home directory
[02:11:41] < i_c-Y> id have done the system on the sata drive
[02:11:48] < i_c-Y> but check the dma mode on the 80
[02:11:51] < i_c-Y> err the ide
[02:12:46] < i_c-Y> also, did you make sure to install the unichrome driver?
[02:12:53] < i_c-Y> that did wonders on my emachines
[02:14:46] < Randomist> I don't use it.
[02:15:07] < Randomist> And plus, my on-board is not supported in Linux yet.
[02:15:15] <+tifreak> hmm... anyone have "Life is beautiful"  by sixx AM and would be willing to share? :)
[02:16:59] < prime38> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJDDxHIaaVk
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[02:17:59] <+tifreak> I meant for download and such.. just the music
[02:18:13] < Randomist> I could, if I get Transmission installed.
[02:18:15] < prime38> that was for the rest of us, i guess
[02:18:29] <+tifreak> not sure if the youtube ripper still works right now.. :/
[02:18:33]  * tifreak goes to check
[02:19:26] < Randomist> You want the video or just the music?
[02:19:44] < Randomist> Never mind. :P
[02:19:45] < i_c-Y> www.keepvid.com , grab it and run it through riva flv encoder
[02:19:55] < i_c-Y> or google for a mp3
[02:20:22]  * Randomist yays once more of Demonoid's return.
[02:20:41] < prime38> my laptop is seriously sick
[02:20:47] < i_c-Y> flash, oh sweet flash, why do you insist on sucking cocks?
[02:20:50] <+tifreak> I need to find out what kind of internet speeds I can get by hooking up my cell phone...
[02:20:51] < i_c-Y> in a bad way
[02:20:55] < Randomist> Yay, Pepto Bismol?
[02:21:04] < i_c-Y> what provider, freak?
[02:21:41] <+tifreak> AT&T, it be a blackjack II
[02:22:09] < Randomist> The good news:  I found it.
[02:22:31] < Randomist> The other good news:  it has a lot of peers.  The bad news:  it's the whole album and it's 70 MB.
[02:22:48] <+tifreak> well.. get the album.. and then give me just the one song? :P
[02:23:12] <+tifreak> lol
[02:23:32] <+tifreak> bah.. got stuck on the download from youtube... just dont have fast enough nets
[02:23:34] < prime38> you can download individual files you know
[02:23:36] < Randomist> I'm not done setting my comp up... someone else want to download it?
[02:23:41] < prime38> unless its in one big rar
[02:23:41] < i_c-Y> hm
[02:23:52] < Randomist> http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/1286811/3453114/
[02:24:01] < i_c-Y> tifreak: looks like its 220 - 320 kbps down , burst up to 384 kbps, and 64 kbps up
[02:24:32] <+tifreak> so... if I can get it unlimited for an additional $30 a month, it would be worth it, I think...
[02:25:09] <+tifreak> I was going to see about a usb one, they want $100 for the device (but you get a rebate), and the first bill is 1.5 months, plus a $36 activation
[02:25:30] <+tifreak> so, a $130 bill for the first bill, then $60 a month after that..
[02:25:43] < Randomist> Ow.
[02:25:49] <+tifreak> yeah
[02:25:54] < i_c-Y> i dunno if i were on my own id probably just buy a data plan and use voip
[02:25:56] < Randomist> That would make me cry.
[02:26:00] <+tifreak> and I so badly want it too :(
[02:26:10] <+tifreak> well, icy, I am down to so few options...
[02:26:20] <+tifreak> it is basically, get the plan on the phone, or stick with dialup
[02:26:28] < i_c-Y> :(
[02:26:54] < Randomist> If you've got the money for it, "More power to you," I say.
[02:27:37] <+tifreak> Well... I cannot download much at 3kbps :P
[02:27:46] < Netham45> haha
[02:27:48] < Netham45> eww
[02:27:55] <+tifreak> it took 4 days to download microsoft .net framework 2.2
[02:28:07] < Randomist> Brings back memories.
[02:28:46] < i_c-Y> actually tifreak 
[02:28:52] < i_c-Y> looks like it can go a good but higher
[02:29:25] < i_c-Y> good bit*
[02:29:35] < i_c-Y> looks like you can theoretically hit up to 14.4 Mbit/s
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[02:29:58] < Netham45> my internet is usually around 25Mbit/s
[02:29:58] < i_c-Y> so still, expect low to mid dsl
[02:30:01] < Netham45> 1Mbit/s upload
[02:30:02] <+tifreak> that would be pwnsome...
[02:30:17] < i_c-Y> ( looks like 1.8 is a norm)
[02:30:20] < Randomist> i_c-Y:  Oh, yeah, yes, DMA stuff is on.
[02:30:22] <+tifreak> if it gets better than 15kbps, I think it would be better than what I got XD
[02:30:39] <+tifreak> the only thing is, what kind of restrictions would be put on it...
[02:30:46] < i_c-Y> 5 GB transfer / month
[02:30:46] <+tifreak> that is what I will have to find out tommorrow
[02:30:56] <+tifreak> hmm...
[02:30:57] < Randomist> Is "Write Caching" supposed to be on?
[02:31:18] <+tifreak> I guess that would not be too bad... not sure how many mb a month I download...
[02:31:26] <+tifreak> considering, I don't go many places on the net
[02:32:00] < i_c-Y> actually Randomist 
[02:32:03] < i_c-Y> check make.conf
[02:32:13] < i_c-Y> to see if you have things like FEATURES="buildpkg"
[02:32:15] < i_c-Y> or in emerge --info
[02:32:16] <+tifreak> and if nothing else, I would still have the dialup to give the other a brake, when I am only using IRC..
[02:32:30] < i_c-Y> (see if clearing out /usr/portage/packages helps)
[02:32:30] <+tifreak> break* I mean.. <.<
[02:32:43] < Randomist> FEATURES="sandbox ccache distcc distlocks parallel-fetch userfetch userpriv usersandbox"
[02:33:15] < Randomist> I took distcc out (what was that doing there?).
[02:33:44] < Randomist> Don't know 'bout the rest, except ccache -- I _do_ want that.
[02:33:44] < i_c-Y> write caching can help
[02:35:43] < i_c-Y> whats emerge --info ?
[02:35:55] < i_c-Y> and do you have a lot of crud in /usr/portage/packages ?
[02:36:26] < i_c-Y> and what fs are you using?
[02:36:36] < Randomist> Ext3.
[02:37:33] < i_c-Y> hm. turning off write caching with ext3 might be a good idea - journaling + write caching hasnt always played great together
[02:39:50] < Randomist> Ooh, now I _really_ think I should be using my SATA drive for system.  I wonder if I can just CP everything back and fourth?
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[02:39:56] < i_c-Y> you might also want to play around with various bios settings.
[02:40:28] < i_c-Y> partimage it over and use a livecd to edit fstab and reinstall grub.
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[02:48:56] < Netham45> you might be able to use dd, too.
[02:49:13] <+Tari> partimage is the way to go
[02:49:18] <+Tari> dd is just trouble
[02:49:39] < Netham45> hrm
[02:49:46] < Netham45> I've used dd fine on mine
[02:49:52] <+Tari> meh
[02:50:05] < Netham45> I've copied Windows installs with dd
[02:50:13] < Randomist> I don't want to take any chances, I'll go with i_c-Y/Tari.
[02:50:26] < i_c-Y> dd is retarded.
[02:50:32] < i_c-Y> well
[02:50:33] < Netham45> how so?
[02:50:38] < i_c-Y> dd is great, not for this purpose.
[02:50:52] < i_c-Y> youd need to run it through some intermediete for safety.
[02:51:06] < i_c-Y> (see the g4l page for more reasons probably - im too lazy to enumerate them)
[02:51:11] < Netham45> I always just did dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb
[02:51:16] < i_c-Y> Randomist: g4l is another option and might be easier.
[02:51:36] < i_c-Y> the most popular consideration with that is are the disks of hte same geometry?
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[02:52:01] < Netham45> mine must have been
[02:52:04] < Netham45> because it worked
[02:53:38] < r3tspaN1> gnish all
[02:54:54] <+Tari> dd if=/dev/mem of=/dev/hda
[02:56:15] < Randomist> That would be a really ghetto way of hibernating your comp.  :P
[02:56:23] < prime38> linux/sucks/hardcore
[02:58:46] < Randomist> Oh, that is what is eating up ten gigabytes...
[02:59:19] < Randomist> If I didn't have all these samples lying around, my home drive would fit on a DVD.
[02:59:56] < Netham45> lol
[03:00:06] < Netham45> but, could you do a dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/mem
[03:00:41] < chronomex> probably
[03:00:43] < i_c-Y> i suppose though you could do  dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb if you were careful, and were ready to fuck with the partition table among toher things ( though parted can take care of that)
[03:00:50] < Randomist> Even if you could, that'd probably screw up, anyway, 'cause stuff on the hard drive would not be in the same place.
[03:01:03] < chronomex> dd makes an exact bit-for-bit copy
[03:01:40] < i_c-Y> chronomex: and that can cause problems sometimes :)
[03:02:28] < i_c-Y> and bit for bit / sector for sector / byte for byte copies arent all dd does.
[03:03:28] < Randomist> I have, like, a crapload of SoundFonts...  anything I can do with these on Linux, or can I just dump 'em?
[03:03:49] < Netham45> i_c-y, yea, I did that then fucked with the partition table
[03:04:03] < Netham45> with gparted, it only took about 5 minutes to do the partition table, though.
[03:04:31] < i_c-Y> there is stuff for that , Randomist 
[03:04:38] < i_c-Y> and Netham45 , my question is why bother?
[03:04:58] < Netham45> uhm
[03:04:59] < i_c-Y> why not just use something like g4l / g4u or partimage, copy what you need (ie not the whole disk) and run?
[03:05:13] < Netham45> because I didn't know better?
[03:05:55] < i_c-Y> fair enough.
[03:06:07] < i_c-Y> Randomist: you could install rosegarden and Timidity++ or something
[03:06:10] < Netham45> It may not be the best way, but it does work for me.
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[03:17:32] < Randomist> Hmm, I am about 500M away from /home fitting on a DVD... I could dump my Rap/Hip-Hop folder, which is exactly 500M...  :P
[03:20:52] < chronomex> meters or megabytes?
[03:20:57] < chronomex> I'd say dump :)
[03:23:13] < Randomist> T.I. can get dumped without second thought.  :P
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[03:27:58] < prime38> i see some stuff on amazon.com that is $0.01
[03:28:05] < prime38> think its right?
[03:40:44] < Randomist> Whoa... this trippy Rap/Glitch song is making me want to go into a seizure with all the crazy phasing, shifting, and panning
[03:42:22] < Randomist> Either that, or check my audio config and make sure the buffers are not too low.
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[03:53:37] < prime38> are the yorkfield processors good?
[03:54:02] < prime38> someone mentioned penryn the otherday, but i cant find those on newegg
[03:55:27] < prime38> wait, penryn is a mobile processor
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[04:12:14] < aikidox> more ccffvii plzzz
[04:14:16] < DarkAuron> ..
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[04:18:28] < Nikky> hehe
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[04:31:32] <@efneTI86> [Tyler2] I no longer speak fluent dialup.
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[04:46:15] < Sir_Lewk> "<Randomist> Hmm, I am about 500M away from /home fitting on a DVD... I could dump my Rap/Hip-Hop folder, which is exactly 500M...  :P"  Someone doesn't have much pr0n :P
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[04:54:05] < chronomex> Sir_Lewk: I'm with him actually
[04:54:19] < chronomex> 'cept I've got 39G of not-porn
[04:55:02] < Sir_Lewk> yeah, I've got about 50G of non-pron sitting here
[04:55:35] <+Tyler2> Copious amounts of porn for everyone!
[04:55:42] < Sir_Lewk> hmm, Hans Reiser got pwnd
[04:55:59] < Sir_Lewk> idiot shouldn't have ditched his lawyer
[05:00:44] < Sir_Lewk> lol, +5 insightful comment on ./:
[05:00:51] < Sir_Lewk> "SHUT THE FUCK UP. Honestly, that is the advice you need. SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP..."
[05:01:03] <+nicolas> or maybe on /. 
[05:01:11] <+nicolas> unless you have a new site to go to ?
[05:01:12] < Sir_Lewk> oh, yeah
[05:01:28] < Sir_Lewk> didn't know Kevin was on /. though :P
[05:02:07] < Nikky> Kofler?
[05:02:29] < chronomex> http://qdb.us/162080
[05:02:35] < chronomex> _o maybe
[05:03:08] < prime38> iron man is released this week!
[05:03:31] < Nikky> ok
[05:04:11] < prime38> dont try to act like you arent excited or anything
[05:04:26] <+nicolas> prime38: I know I know, I'm SOOOOO going to go see that
[05:04:36] <+nicolas> :D:D:D
[05:04:42] <+nicolas> just cause of the black sabbath song :D
[05:06:26] <+nicolas> I'm still confused at his abilities though, cause that suit looks friggin heavy!
[05:07:46] < Netham45> read CAD
[05:07:48] < Netham45> :D
[05:07:57] < Netham45> http://cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20080426
[05:08:01] <+nicolas> Netham45: already have ;-)
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[05:08:08] <+nicolas> "once I find out how to move.." 
[05:08:09] <+nicolas> hahhaha
[05:08:45] < Netham45> I know
[05:08:48] < Netham45> it was awesome
[05:09:45] < chronomex> http://qdb.us/159501
[05:10:56] < Sir_Lewk> "<Nikky> Kofler?"  no, JUST FUCKIN STOP guy :P
[05:12:43] < chronomex> that's _o then
[05:12:55] < chronomex> Spengo: http://photos-h.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v241/114/73/10735735/n10735735_37957015_8144.jpg
[05:13:11] < Sir_Lewk> haha
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[05:27:04] <+ports> hrm
[05:27:10] <+ports> anyone know how to rescind a friend request on facebook?
[05:27:36] < millinao> you can't, why would you want to
[05:27:56] <+ports> because i accidentally sent a request to a kid that really annoys me
[05:28:23] < millinao> then delete him if he hits accept
[05:28:41] <+ports> he wont...
[05:28:48] <+ports> its kinda funny.. really funny to me.
[05:29:15] <+nicolas> ports: can't you "Remove from friends" even if the other person hasn't accepted yet ?
[05:29:27] <+ports> long story short.. kid and i dont get along... he gets brought along as a blind date to my group at my girlfriends sorority formal... and he spends the whole night bitching about how he hates me.  so the girl refuses to have sex with him because shes mad.
[05:30:01] <+nicolas> ahahahahahah
[05:30:09] <+ports> nicolas, sweet.. i just did the search thing... and it still says "add as friend" not "friend requested" ... i hit stop in time
[05:30:38] <+nicolas> I think she just refuses to spend any more time with him .. not just the sex part :P
[05:30:56] <+ports> he really picked the wrong sorority to bad mouth me in.
[05:31:40] <+ports> those 70 girls may be my biggest fanclub because ive helped their leadership team with so many things, and a lot of their members are former students of mine.. not to mention my sister used to be in that sorority.
[05:32:25] <+nicolas> hehehe
[05:32:35] <+nicolas> so that's 70 girls he won't ever sleep with :P
[05:32:37] < millinao> 70 chicks at the same time?
[05:32:50] < Sir_Lewk> 70 is one freaking huge orgy :O
[05:33:20] <+ports> my sister was in the 2nd class that ever joined that sorority on that campus... 1st and 2nd class are pretty legendary because they all started it..
[05:33:24] < millinao> if by huge you mean awesome
[05:33:40] <+nicolas> hehehe
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[05:33:44] < Beeer> hey
[05:33:44] < Sir_Lewk> then I am awesome
[05:33:50] < Beeer> how do I look up t tables on a ti89?
[05:33:57] < Beeer> t z and ki tables
[05:34:08] <+Tyler2> Copious amounts of orgy's for ports
[05:34:14] <+ports> nicolas, i was really damn amused when i found out about him spending the whole night bitching about me
[05:34:15] < Sir_Lewk> by poking glk1 
[05:34:24] < Sir_Lewk> he would know
[05:34:31] < glk1> I gave what I could
[05:34:37] < millinao> what are  you rambling about Sir_Lewk
[05:34:44] < glk1> I am not great on statistics
[05:34:46] <+ports> nicolas, because i was thinking.. 4pm... 4.30pm... 2am.. 2.30am.. 4.30am... 7am..
[05:34:55] < Sir_Lewk> I'm say that glk1 is good with 89s millinao 
[05:35:11] < glk1> Go get the manual for stats I gave
[05:35:23] <+nicolas> ports: you were thinking, he's having a good time :P
[05:35:24] <+Tyler2> Yes, stats is so boring I don't know how stats profs can live with themselves
[05:35:25] < prime38> what are t tables?
[05:35:29] < glk1> http://facultyfiles.deanza.edu/gems/deansusan/statsle.pdf
[05:35:35] <+ports> nicolas, no.. i was thinking about when i got laid :P
[05:35:38] <+nicolas> ports: and then when you found out .. "hahahahahhahahaha"
[05:36:05] <+Tyler2> Astrophysics/Astronomy and CS seem much more enjoyable that sats
[05:36:09] <+Tyler2> stats*
[05:36:21] < glk1> TI-89 lessons has much useful data in MATH http://grahamkendall.net/
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[05:36:42] <+ports> nicolas, oh yeah.. my girlfriend is a graduating alumn from that sorority too.. until sunday she was the oldest student member in the sorority.
[05:36:42] < glk1> My url has orbit lessons
[05:37:15] < Sir_Lewk> how does she lose that title?
[05:38:04] < chronomex> someone older joined
[05:38:08] <+ports> nicolas, i dont know of any other group that likes me more... lol.. he screwed it up good.... 99% of the guys that could get it up saturday night should have gotten laid... (1% wouldnt because of a birth control issue)..
[05:38:09] < chronomex> duh
[05:38:19] <+ports> Sir_Lewk, you graduate and become an alum.
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[05:38:38] < Sir_Lewk> ah
[05:38:40] <+ports> this sunday was their Alum Ceremony.  she my girlfriend isnt an active member anymore. shes an Alumni of the sorority.
[05:38:48] < chronomex> alumna you mean
[05:38:49] < Beeer> is there a choose function for the ti89?
[05:38:54] < chronomex> choose?
[05:39:00] < Beeer> 4096!/(30!(4096-30)!)
[05:39:01] <+ports> chronomex, Alum, Alumni, Alumnus.
[05:39:02] < Beeer> stuff like that
[05:39:14] < prime38> do you have the stats/list editor?
[05:39:15] < chronomex> ports: I took Latin
[05:39:20] <+ports> chronomex, you suck :P
[05:39:22] < chronomex> :D
[05:39:28] < prime38> cause you would probably want that
[05:39:30] <+ports> anyways
[05:39:35] <+ports> thats how you lose the title
[05:39:36] < chronomex> nPr / nCr ?
[05:39:52] <+ports> its usually someone out of the graduating senior group
[05:41:10] < Beeer> I have a ti89 it comes with a stats editor?
[05:41:24] < prime38> maybe, some come with apps
[05:41:27] < prime38> but, its an app
[05:41:29] <+ports> Beeer, it should.. its under apps. unless if you did a reset on the calculator
[05:41:38] <+ports> Stats/List Editor is what itll say
[05:42:00] < Beeer> I have 9 categories and then an A:home at the bottom
[05:42:44] < prime38> press the APPS key
[05:42:49] < prime38> then select flash apps
[05:43:07] < Beeer> 1:flashapps 2:y=editor 3:window editor 4:graph 5:table 6:data/matrix editor 7:program editor 8:text editor 9:numeric solver
[05:43:19] < prime38> press 1
[05:43:41] < Beeer> ah
[05:43:54] < Beeer> it says check education.ti.com for downloable interactive calc software app
[05:44:05] < glk1> If you use flash app statsle , uou need to put number values in a list for nCr  nPr. On home, just use nPr(,x,y)
[05:44:34] < Beeer> does it take long to put on the calc?
[05:44:43] < Beeer> I got this final tomorrow so I dont really have time to be fiddlin around
[05:45:13] < prime38> heh, its fast if you have the computer software already set up, for linking
[05:45:15] < Beeer> I have 2 finals tomorrow. 1 the day after, another the day after that, then another on monday. and I just had one today and on friday heh
[05:46:24] < prime38> glk1 will point you in the right direction
[05:46:40] < glk1> I will help if I can
[05:47:00] < glk1> Did you note what I said already?
[05:47:04] < Beeer> well I'll download the software now
[05:47:21] < prime38> do you have a link cable?
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[05:47:44] <@efneTI86> [DarkAuron] We called it Sin.
[05:47:46] < glk1> The TI-89 comes with stats app
[05:49:05] < Beeer> well I just listed everything under apps
[05:49:14] < Beeer> and I told you what happens when I press 1
[05:49:25] <+nicolas> Beeer: maybe you should have though about all this some time earlier than the day before your finals?
[05:49:40] < Beeer> I didnt know there was even a function for choose
[05:49:47] < Beeer> or t tables 
[05:49:49] < glk1> apps  flash apps stats/list editor
[05:50:15] < Beeer> it says check education.ti.com for downloable interactive calc software app
[05:50:22] < Beeer> a box comes up saying that
[05:50:32] < Beeer> then it says enter=ok under that
[05:51:03] < prime38> i think the calc has all the functions you need, and the stats list editor is just a front end
[05:51:12] < glk1> In MODE Apps Desktop  On
[05:51:23] < glk1> See icons
[05:51:35] < glk1> in APPS
[05:51:36] <+nicolas> glk1 has much data on ti89 ;-)
[05:52:00] < Beeer> hah
[05:52:03] < Beeer> I just turned it on
[05:52:06] < Beeer> glk1 thanks
[05:52:12] < Beeer> hah it works
[05:52:22] < Beeer> I was just about to redownload and install the operating system for this calc
[05:52:26] < glk1> See a icon Stats/List E in a 4 pointed  star
[05:52:45] < glk1> Are you seeing this ?
[05:53:29] < Beeer> nope
[05:53:40] < Beeer> home is a pic of a calculator
[05:53:48] < glk1> Go to MODE
[05:53:53] < Beeer> text editor is a pic of a c:pencil
[05:53:57] < glk1> Down at bottom
[05:54:12] < Beeer> okay
[05:54:16] < Beeer> thanks for the help
[05:54:24] < prime38> glk1 i dont think he has it
[05:54:29] < glk1> Apps Desktop  On   See icons in Apps
[05:54:36] < Beeer> page one?
[05:54:45] < Beeer> there is page 1 page 2 page 3
[05:55:07] < prime38> its in page 3
[05:55:08] < prime38> i think
[05:55:23] < glk1> Look for Stats/List E and 4 pointed star
[05:55:26] < Beeer> yeah I have apps desktop on
[05:55:39] < glk1> Look for Stats/List E and 4 pointed star
[05:55:53] < Beeer> I'll have to reinstall the OS
[05:56:01] < Beeer> I remember tampering with the calculator a long time ago
[05:56:03] < glk1> If it is not there, download it. It comes with the calc
[05:56:11] < Beeer> just reinstall the os?
[05:56:28] < prime38> no, not the os
[05:56:45] < prime38> just download the app, if that is what you even need
[05:57:24] < glk1> download statsle   
[05:57:25] < glk1> http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/US/productDetail/us_statslist_89.html
[05:58:42] < glk1> Do you have the computer cable?
[05:59:05] < Beeer> yep
[05:59:27] < glk1> try for the statsle download
[05:59:54] < glk1> I gave the url
[06:00:15] < glk1> Try that before  new OS
[06:00:48] < glk1> Then download the manual at the url given 
[06:03:47] < glk1> My TI-89Titanium uses OS 3.10
[06:04:14] < Spengo> NOOOOOOOOOOO Fenix ;_;
[06:06:04] < Spengo> he died :(
[06:06:16] < Spengo> his sword thingies ran out of batteries right when a hydralisk snuck up on him
[06:06:34] < prime38> what a way to go
[06:06:41] < Spengo> I know
[06:06:54] < Spengo> I'm actually kinda mad they didn't animate him beating the shit out of a hydra with his fists
[06:07:10] < Spengo> that would have made a sweet cutscene
[06:07:20] < DarkAuron> o.O
[06:07:57] < Spengo> he might have won... at least against that one hydra anyways
[06:08:53] < DarkAuron> o_o
[06:08:57] < DarkAuron> damn I seriously needed to defragment
[06:09:34] < prime38> defrag to ext3
[06:09:47] < DarkAuron> with windows xp, riiight
[06:10:07] < Spengo> he was pretty tough, he had extra shields and extra health compared to other zealots
[06:10:18] <+Tyler2> There are drivers that support ext3 on Windows
[06:10:28] < Spengo> or I guess he was a templar... but he looked like a zealot and had sword thingies like them
[06:10:59] < DarkAuron> what's special about ext3 anyways?
[06:11:45] < prime38> your right
[06:11:50] < Spengo> starcraft would make a pretty sweet movie
[06:11:54] < prime38> use reiser4 instead
[06:12:01] < Spengo> lmao
[06:12:09] < DarkAuron> ....
[06:12:11] < DarkAuron> I was being serious :|
[06:12:16] < prime38> its got one more than 3
[06:12:19] < Spengo> you should do it for the lulz
[06:12:20] < Spengo> :D
[06:12:52] < prime38> want to know about lulz? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7370903.stm
[06:12:58] < prime38> fuck china
[06:13:04] < Spengo> awesome
[06:13:41] < Spengo> oh man
[06:13:43] < Spengo> I should totally do that
[06:13:51] < Spengo> order some random-ass factory to make tibet flags
[06:15:06] < prime38> china pisses me off
[06:15:22] <+Tyler2> My roommate was all over China for kicking Tibets ass, but China also pisses me off
[06:15:38] < Spengo> they are enemies of the interbutts
[06:16:57] <+Tyler2> The citizens should just revolt and kick the governments ass
[06:17:11] <+Tyler2> Sure a few people will die, but thats a very low proportion to their population
[06:17:29] < Spengo> I expect what would happen would be the same thing that usually happens when people without guns stand up to people with guns
[06:18:04] <+Tyler2> They could easily overwhelm the police, and then have guns
[06:18:06] < Spengo> they already tried, remember? *cough*tiananmen square*cough*
[06:18:17] < Spengo> they aren't just police... they have fucking tanks
[06:18:23] < Beeer> ti connect software sucks it keeps freezing on me
[06:18:38] <+Tyler2> Thats when Terrorist groups come in, just storm key points, steals tons of weapons, and start handing them out
[06:18:42] < Beeer> it finds the calculator then when I press select it freezes
[06:19:09] < prime38> that is a side effect of running TI programs on your computer, i'm afraid
[06:19:14] < Spengo> if I was rich
[06:19:25] < Spengo> I'd buy a billion mosin nagants and send them to chinese farmers
[06:19:27] < Spengo> lulz would ensue
[06:19:38] < prime38> what are those?
[06:19:45] < Spengo> the cheapest gun evar
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[06:19:52] < Spengo> russian WWII surplus
[06:20:00] < prime38> no no no we need less chinese people with guns
[06:20:00] < Spengo> we call them "moist nuggets" affectionately :)
[06:20:09] <+Tyler2> Or maybe the UN should stop being a bunch of pussies and just go overthrow the Chinese government
[06:20:19] < Spengo> bolt action 7.62x54r
[06:20:29] < Spengo> and they *can* be pretty accurate
[06:20:34] < Spengo> but not all of them lol
[06:20:50] < Spengo> thing is, you can get good ones for like $70
[06:21:03] <+Tyler2> A few Cruise missiles would topple the government, all you need to cripple is the communications system and their are done
[06:21:10] < prime38> Spengo: instead, give them blankets with smallpox
[06:21:12] < prime38> or aids
[06:21:19] < Spengo> that would be fun too
[06:21:47] <+Tyler2> Potato guns!
[06:21:59] < Spengo> lol
[06:22:01] <+sgm> r5t[']]]]]
[06:22:28] <+Tyler2> Each farmer shall be allocated one potato gun, one disposable lighter and 2 cans of hairspray
[06:22:36] <+Tyler2> Potatoes not included
[06:23:02] < glk1> I had no problems with TI-connect with my Mac
[06:24:17] < prime38> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_11-87
[06:24:42] < prime38> 12ga, 2 3/4in
[06:25:41] <+Tyler2> Hmm, 100,000 pissed off Chinese with 12 gauges storming Beiing?
[06:26:00] < prime38> or me
[06:26:05] < prime38> i have that
[06:26:47] < prime38> but like i said, the less arms they have, the better
[06:27:38] < tr1p1ea> what if the chinese citizens sold their own government counterfeit weapons over eBay?
[06:27:54] < tr1p1ea> a good buyout price with ridiculous shipping
[06:28:11] < tr1p1ea> the weapons would work fine for say 30 days, then fall the pieces
[06:28:26] < prime38> but first shoot the owner in the face?
[06:38:09] < prime38> !t Welcome to #TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org/ | Greet messages shall reign supreme, always and forever
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[07:20:42]  * Spengo is listening to: 12 days of christmas Starcraft.flv - Winamp [0:09/4:19] 256kbps - 44Khz
[07:20:44] < Spengo> lulz
[07:22:17] < Spengo> Archons hate singing
[07:35:30] < Spengo> Who's your favorite doctor on /.
[07:35:34] < Spengo> STRANGELOVE HELLS YEAH
[07:38:14] < DarkAuron> ....
[07:45:00] < Spengo> I do hope you've watched Dr. Strangelove
[07:45:10] < Spengo> I bet even bw watched that
[07:45:24] < DarkAuron> yes I've seen it
[07:45:24] < Spengo> speaking of which, he hasn't been around in a week or two
[07:45:30] < Spengo> !seen brandonw
[07:45:31] < DarkAuron> a week or two?
[07:45:32] <@efneTI86> BrandonW (~calcmaste@24-158-198-153.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) was last seen quitting from #tcpa 13 days, 2 hours, 1 minute ago stating ().
[07:45:37] < Spengo> almost 2
[07:45:40] < DarkAuron> wow o_o it has been two weeks
[07:45:50] < DarkAuron> that's so weird
[07:45:58] < Spengo> yeah usually he's in here 24/7
[07:46:22] < Spengo> maybe TI got him v& for haxing their calculators
[07:46:46] < DarkAuron> v&?
[07:46:51] < Spengo> vanned
[07:47:05] < DarkAuron> lol.
[07:47:22] < Spengo> as in, put in the back of a van, the kind with bars between the backseat and the driver
[07:47:37] < Spengo> or party vanned
[07:47:45] < Spengo> as in, the FBI kind that you don't want in your driveway
[07:47:54] < DarkAuron> :P
[07:48:56] < Spengo> what's his username on detachedsolutions
[07:49:48] < Spengo> ah Brandon Wilson
[07:49:58] < Spengo> odd
[07:50:03] < Spengo> he hasn't posted there in 20 days!
[07:50:12] < Spengo> :O
[07:50:38] < Spengo> we should mobilize our forces and muster a brandon search force
[07:50:42] < Spengo> to the googles!
[07:51:59] < Spengo> hmm, other people have posted stuff on his site, but he hasn't
[07:53:29] < Spengo> http://twitter.com/brandonw lmao
[07:53:31] < Spengo> IMPOSTER
[07:55:08] < Spengo> I found his facebook and friended it
[07:56:34] < Spengo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Wilson_%28murderer%29 LOOL
[07:56:36] < Spengo> HAHAHA
[07:57:11] < Spengo> he kills kids because the LSD voices tell him to
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[07:58:26] < Spengo> I only get captain america stuff when I search for my name
[07:59:02] < Spengo> http://www.angelfire.com/band/pumpkinworld/savebrandonwilson.html wat
[07:59:03] < Spengo> wat
[07:59:05] < Spengo> wat
[08:00:23] < Spengo> wow
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[08:01:07] < Spengo> search for brandon wilson, first you get the wikipedia article, then you get a billion sites that are all like "save brandon wilson from death penalty, he is just insane!"
[09:03:05] < DarkAuron> lol?
[09:06:12] < DarkAuron> y'know you could just go back in the logs and /call/ him
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[09:19:39] <+nicolas> errr
[09:19:43] <+nicolas> brain is refusing to work today
[09:20:18] < E-JL> sorry i haven't linked any links here yoday
[09:20:22] < E-JL> today*
[09:21:00] <+nicolas> yes, I could blame it on you :P
[09:21:44] < E-JL> but then again i went to sleep in about 5:00 because of walburg things
[09:21:58] <+nicolas> walburg/
[09:21:59] <+nicolas> ?
[09:22:42] < E-JL> for engineering students in finland it's night between 22nd of april and 2nd of may
[09:23:10] < E-JL> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walpurgis_Night#Finland
[09:24:09] < E-JL> on last night we killed freshmen because they can't be "teekkari" before they are killed
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[09:28:53] <+nicolas> E-JL: sounds like fun :)
[09:29:06] <+Tyler2> Hmm, 21.32924 Gflops :D
[09:29:19] < E-JL> for a foreign tomorrow would be experience to see so many people wearing student caps and student overalls
[09:31:30] <+nicolas> so it's like a graduation sort of thing in that ase .. for the students who earned their caps ?
[09:32:20] < E-JL> yep
[09:34:41] < E-JL> for a year they have collected points to earn it
[09:35:04] < E-JL> if not enough they will get cap on mother's day
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[10:28:52] <@efneTI86> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing?
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[10:39:35] < E-JL> nicolas: you were mac person? http://digg.com/apple/This_is_just_plain_wrong_3
[11:16:43] < E-JL> http://ircpics.com/img.php?id=13879
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[12:24:46] < zpowers> !alive
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[12:30:00] < zn> hey
[12:30:53] < zn> I hook up my ti89 to my computer using a serial cable. ti connrect recognizes the device as "black cable" when this com1 port is selected ti connect them freezes. then I have to close the program and start all over
[12:31:02] < zn> anyone have an idea of how to get around this problem?
[12:31:26] <@benryves> Not using TI Connect, for starters. :) Is this the regular blacklink (ie, not the grey link?)
[12:38:54] < tr1p1ea> anyone been following digitan's Robot War game?
[12:40:35] <@benryves> I haven't really been paying much attention to the TI community in general, I'm afraid, tr1p1ea. :\
[12:41:01] <@benryves> Why do you ask?
[12:41:18] < tr1p1ea> oh, well it looks impressive
[12:44:26] <@benryves> Wow, I hadn't even heard (or had simply forgotten) about the project. It does look very well made!
[12:47:53] < zn> yeah its the regular blacklink
[12:48:31] <@benryves> zn: I'd recommend TiLP 2 instead. It's rather more reliable with the old link cables.
[12:49:22] < zn> TiLP 2?
[12:49:28] < zn> let megoogle
[12:49:50] <@benryves> http://lpg.ticalc.org/prj_tilp/win32.html <- this software.
[12:49:57] < zn> oh its another problem
[12:50:04] < zn> I thought it was some new usb cable hehe
[12:50:12] < zn> wooohooo
[12:50:12] <@benryves> Ah, no. :)
[12:50:48] < zn> I like these programs made by independent programmers. they are usually very good
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[12:51:08] < zn> I trust them more than I trust the companies
[12:51:23] <@benryves> I remember TI Connect had problems on my PC as I had a bluetooth adapter, and it would try use that as a TI link cable instead of the real blacklink cable.
[12:51:45] < zn> yeah I have bluetooth adapter tooo
[12:51:53] < zn> for my mouse keyboard and headset?
[12:51:56] < zn> for my mouse keyboard and headset.
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[12:52:24] <@efneTI86> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
[12:52:32] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v KermM] by efneTI83
[12:52:48] <+KermM> hey guys
[12:52:51] <@benryves> 'lo KermM
[12:52:55] <+KermM> oh hi ben
[12:52:57] <+KermM> how's life?
[12:53:06] <@benryves> Same old, same old. Yourself?
[12:54:20] <+KermM> some better, some worse, same old on average
[12:54:47] <@benryves> Developing any cool software atm?
[12:55:00] <+KermM> not really
[12:55:07] <+KermM> the oly coding I've had time for lately is for school
[12:55:33] <+KermM> although as soon as summer starts I want to finish and publish my website's new design (http://beta.cemetech.net) and get to work on Doors CS 7
[12:55:33] <@benryves> Oh. Nothing interesting there, even? :\
[12:55:39] <+KermM> and yourself?
[12:55:43] <+KermM> nah
[12:56:12] <@benryves> Hm, your new site gets my vote, as it works in Opera. :)
[12:56:21] <+KermM> yay
[12:56:24] <+KermM> that's a relief :P
[12:57:03] <+KermM> I unfortunately need to head to class
[12:57:06] <+KermM> talk to you later
[12:57:08] <@benryves> See you!
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[13:12:41] < E-JL> "Q: What's the favourite fruit of a mathematician? A: Limes"
[13:13:26] < E-JL> asmand: http://veksi.kapsi.fi/wappulehti.txt.pdf
[13:14:16] <@benryves> E-JL: Ah, maths jokes. They never start to be amusing.
[13:14:30] < E-JL> jep
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[13:14:32] < Beeer> hey
[13:14:40] < Beeer> how exactly do I use this stat program?
[13:15:09] < Beeer> I'm trying to look up t tables ztables chi tables and do 300!/(20!(300-20)!)
[13:17:09] < E-JL> do you think we can just guess the calculator you are using by our forehead
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[13:17:31] < Beeer> ti89
[13:17:33] < Beeer> sorry
[13:17:40] < Beeer> its it npr(
[13:18:15] < Beeer> but when going into the stat prog it has these columns labeled list1 list2 etc
[13:18:37] < E-JL> yep, you can change them
[13:18:55] < E-JL> but i must be going now ->
[13:19:16] < Beeer> ok ok I got it
[13:19:18] < Beeer> thanks thanks
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[15:08:26] < zpowers> :D\-< :D/-< :D|-< :D>-<
[15:08:54] <@benryves> Sorry, zpowers, I don't speak semaphore.
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[15:17:49] <@efneTI86> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
[15:17:57] <@benryves> wb KermM
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[15:29:36] <+nicolas> benryves: actually, you should have said you'd become rich the day you inveted a machine to stab people in the face over the internet ;-)
[15:29:46] <+nicolas> invented*
[15:30:00] <@Andy_J> Heh, I just used the AFK, tornado quote a few minutes ago
[15:30:14] <+nicolas> hehehe
[15:30:39] <+nicolas> well, i'm off .. karate practice :P
[15:30:54] <@benryves> nicolas: That would hardly be original, though. :)
[15:32:07] <+nicolas> ah well...
[15:32:11]  * nicolas &
[15:33:25] < Sir_Lewk> nicolas is a pointer?
[15:33:46] <@Andy_J> fg %1
[15:33:52] <@Andy_J> >.> <.<
[15:34:24]  * Andy_J slaps Sir_Lewk around a bit with an *
[15:34:53] < Sir_Lewk> :(
[15:36:30] < E-JL> nicolas is an address
[15:37:11] <+Merthsoft> nicolas is a program
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[16:05:02] < zpowers> cout << *nicholas
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[16:49:24] < V200> why didn't anyone tell me that sleep was a million times better than hibernate?
[16:49:42] < V200> I swear it somehow uses nearly zero power
[16:49:56] < V200> last night when I slept my laptop, it had 11% battery left
[16:50:13] < V200> when I woke it up this morning (10 hours later) it had 10%
[16:50:17] < V200> why does hibernate even exist?
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[16:53:13] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] I need an infoline
[16:56:52] < V200> ahah I got it
[16:56:57] < V200> when you want to change batteries
[16:57:06] < E-JL> yep
[16:59:09] < V200> anyway... time to detach... bye
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[17:25:38] < Nikky> lol Grue 
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[17:31:05] <@efneTI86> [Merthsoft] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
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[18:18:08] < Spengo> BAM DOUBLE SCOUT HEADSHOT
[18:18:55] < Spengo> you know, I wish there was a non-sniper version of the G3 in CS
[18:19:09] < Spengo> it's a beautiful gun, and putting the scope on it just makes it gay and unbalanced
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[18:30:40] < Nikky> nerd
[18:32:49] < Spengo> lmao @ monty
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[18:41:04] <@efneTI86> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
[18:41:11] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v KermM] by efneTI89
[18:42:23] < Spengo> En Taro Adun, brave sons of Aiur!
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[18:51:35] < Spengo> KermM must construct additional pylons! ಠ_ಠ
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[18:54:27] < Spengo> i_c-Y requires more vespene gas
[18:54:53] < i_c-Y> ja
[19:03:01] < i_c-Y> so
[19:03:06] < i_c-Y> where is mah vespene gas?
[19:04:22] < Spengo> http://skypedia.org/300-water-bill-a-cat-behind-it.html lmao
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[19:30:45] <+KermM> ohhai i_c-Y
[19:37:54] < i_c-Y> oh hai
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[20:18:38] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] I need an infoline
[20:19:40] < i_c-Y> ban infolines!
[20:19:54] < i_c-Y> !t Welcome to #TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org/ | Greets shall FALL!!!
[20:19:56] -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to #TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org/ | Greets shall FALL!!!
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[21:06:21] < Nikky> Who are you people
[21:07:06] -!- mode/#tcpa [+o E-JL] by efneTI86
[21:07:19] <@E-JL> we are men who walk alone
[21:08:01] < Nikky> oh, okay
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[21:41:43] < i_c-Y> why does firefox suck?
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[21:42:29] <@E-JL> because opera is sucked
[21:52:28] < zpowers> I am who I am
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[21:52:40] < Milayrdo> or not
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[22:09:29] < Sir_Lewk> "<Nikky> Who are you people"  We're Starfox!
[22:11:54] < Nikky> :)
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[22:23:10] <@E-JL> should it be foxes
[22:23:19] < smart_> No, foxen.
[22:23:21] <@E-JL> oh notso_smart
[22:23:50] <@E-JL> long time no se
[22:23:51] < Nikky> smart_: whore
[22:23:52] <@E-JL> e
[22:24:02] < smart_> Nikky: Cunt
[22:24:14] < Nikky> slutbag
[22:24:52] < smart_> Absolutely!
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[22:25:19]  * nicolas smells the love in the air...
[22:25:20] <+nicolas> :D
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[22:25:32] <+nicolas> smart_ass... :D
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[22:26:04] <@efneTI86> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[22:28:22] < r3tspaN1> http://x024.uploaderx.net/x/557_113.jpg
[22:28:24] < r3tspaN1> is that u nicolas
[22:29:05] <+ports> yay
[22:29:05] < Netham45> dude, I would love to play half-life on a screen that big
[22:29:08] <+ports> lemon heads are good
[22:29:19] < Netham45> ports, you have lemon heads too?
[22:29:23] < Netham45> I <3 them
[22:29:28] <+ports> Netham45, i bought a box at walmart. 88cents
[22:29:30] < Netham45> got a big-arse bag earlier
[22:29:37] < Netham45> one of my friends gave it to me
[22:29:40] <+ports> do you ahve the big ones?
[22:29:45] < Netham45> no. :(
[22:29:47] <+ports> these are tiny.. like the size of small marbles
[22:29:53] <+nicolas> r3tspaN1: yes, that's me where did you find that pic!!!
[22:29:55] < Netham45> they're the little ones too.
[22:30:00] <+ports> 88cents for 7ounces
[22:31:08] < Netham45> idk how big these are
[22:31:09] < r3tspaN1> lol
[22:31:19] < Netham45> I poured the bag into a bowl and threw it away.
[22:32:15] <+nicolas> r3tspaN1: and now taht you know that's me ... would you like to woo me .. ?
[22:32:25] <+TheStorm> lol thats funny 
[22:32:26] < r3tspaN1> yes
[22:32:56] <+nicolas> sounds like you might get lucky tonight r3tspaN1... I like a man who knows what he wants ...
[22:33:04] < r3tspaN1> lol
[22:33:26] < Netham45> http://impoll.net/cgi-bin/v.cgi?p=3622
[22:33:30] < Netham45> put this back in the topic. :(
[22:33:54] < Netham45> or this, http://tinyurl.com/58l2yb
[22:34:59] <+nicolas> r3tspaN1: not trying to seduce me anymore :( ... just another calculator nerd eh? ... shame ...
[22:35:08]  * r3tspaN1 take it off!
[22:35:19] < Netham45> wait
[22:35:30] < Netham45> nicolas, is that really you?
[22:35:43]  * nicolas puts on his robe and wizard hat ...
[22:35:46] <+nicolas> muahahahaha
[22:35:54] < Netham45> oh fu*l
[22:35:55] < Netham45> fu*k
[22:35:56] < Nikky> nicolas is a nerd
[22:36:03] < i_c-Y> lol nerds
[22:36:06] <+nicolas> lol
[22:36:32] < i_c-Y> nerds? on my IRC? its more likely than you think.
[22:36:37] < Nikky> nerdy nerdy nerd
[22:37:24] < Calgar> personally i prefer the term geek, but meh
[22:37:27] <@E-JL> if i remember correctly nicolas looks like normal southern european
[22:37:54] <+nicolas> E-JL: may I correct you ... I look like a damn sexy southern european ...
[22:38:09] <+nicolas> and a very modest one at that ...
[22:38:29] < Netham45> http://bash.org/?104383
[22:38:41] <@E-JL> well, here in north we think that you come and stole our women
[22:39:26] <+nicolas> E-JL: I'd very much like to steal some of your women, lots of beautiful ones over there .. but I haven't stolen any myself yet
[22:39:32] <+nicolas> who knows. .. maybe one day ..
[22:40:36] <@E-JL> so you are not like asmand, who already has one little asmandian on his family too
[22:41:19] <+nicolas> yeah, not yet ... I want at least 2 more years of freedom ...
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[22:44:06] <@E-JL> i don't know about my freedom, but i hope i get graduated before i lose it
[22:44:20] <@E-JL> or i don't know
[22:44:35] <+nicolas> well, i'm graduated already so I've passed taht step :P
[22:45:15] <+nicolas> I just don't want kids before I pass 25 years old, after that I'm open to the possibility.. as long as I find the good mother, and a good enough job t o prive the $$$
[22:45:38] <@E-JL> ... i'm 26 ...
[22:46:35] <@E-JL> but i don't have anymore much studies left before i can start master's thesis
[22:48:46] <@E-JL> just some compulsory courses like chemistry, basics of industrial economy and automation systems
[22:53:46] <+nicolas> well, almost there :P
[22:53:57] <+nicolas> *yaaaawn*
[22:54:08] <+nicolas> well, i'm tired... I'm off to bed... I'll see you peeps in the morning
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[23:02:52] < Nikky> Hi prime38!
[23:08:50] < prime38> hello
[23:14:40] < Nikky> How are you?
[23:17:39] < DarkAuron> what's some (hopefully free) basic 3d modelling software that can export to .X, that runs under linux?
[23:17:56] < DarkAuron> I don't mean 3ds max or maya quality
[23:18:00] < DarkAuron> rather basic stuff
[23:24:53] < i_c-Y> blender maybe?
[23:25:01] < Nikky> blender is the only thing I can think of
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[23:42:51] < prime38> Nikky: fine, you?
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[23:59:39] <+patz2009> Welcome to #TCPA, patz2009!
[23:59:47] < Nikky> O.o
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