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[00:16:50] < phillip_> ticalc.org not responding... why
[00:17:24] <+Nikky> it sucks
[00:17:34] <+Nikky> and it's loading for me
[00:17:49] < phillip_> pinged from both here and nwtools.com.. still no answer
[00:18:16] < chronomex> well I'm logged by ssh at the moment
[00:18:19] < chronomex> 62.65.69.4 ?
[00:18:31] <+Nikky> it doesn't respond to pings, that's true
[00:18:34] <+Nikky> but it still loads
[00:18:41] < phillip_> yep, traceroute stalls at 213.242.110.2	ge-4-1-0.se-sthms001-pe-1.tu.telenor.net
[00:19:03] <+Nikky> www.ticalcsucks.com
[00:19:21] < tr1p1ea> http://www.ticalc.org works for me
[00:19:22] < phillip_> that is 213.242.110.2 ge-4-1-0.se-sthms001-pe-1.tu.telenor.net - sorry
[00:19:54] <+Nikky> phillip_: Did you try loading the site?
[00:19:59] < chronomex> traceroute will fail if ping fails
[00:20:34] < phillip_> yep, tried loading the site
[00:20:40] <+Nikky> Well, it loads for me
[00:20:44] <+Nikky> So your interwebs fails
[00:21:24] < tr1p1ea> can you load http://www.calcg.org ?
[00:21:44] < tr1p1ea> thats basically ticalc
[00:21:46] < phillip_> calcg works
[00:26:39] < phillip_> for some reason, ticalc.org resolves but www.ticalc.org doesn't
[00:26:45] < tr1p1ea> DDDDDDDDRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!
[00:26:53] < Randomist> o.O
[00:26:55] < phillip_> i can still visit the site via ip address
[00:27:12] < tr1p1ea> try changing your dns
[00:27:19] < i_c-Y> ticalc working here.
[00:27:34] < Randomist> Works for me, too.
[00:27:39] < tr1p1ea> or use one of those online proxies that kids in highschool use to call themselves 'leet hax0rs'
[00:28:01] < tr1p1ea> http://img1.nnm.ru/imagez/gallery/7/4/6/3/8/74638ae3756bcd109fbf6fef42f5321b.jpg
[00:31:13] < phillip_> it isnt just *my* dns - nwtools.com shows a blank ip address field for www.ticalc.org
[00:31:22] < phillip_> and ticalc.org says "permanently moved" to www.ticalc.org
[00:31:33] <+Nikky> go to www.ticalc.org then :)
[00:35:19] < phillip_> ah, we got it now
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[00:44:06] < Netham45> lol @ nikky
[00:44:11] < Netham45> CNN Headline shirts
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[00:54:32] <@efneTI86> [Spengo] We do what we must because we can
[00:54:51] <+Nikky> hi Spengo 
[00:54:59] < Spengo> greetings earth creature
[00:55:04] <+Nikky> How's school?
[00:55:15] < Spengo> peachy
[00:55:26] <+Nikky> nice
[01:00:24] < Netham45> lol
[01:01:42] < Randomist> Sucks.
[01:02:05] < Netham45> my schools charred
[01:03:19] < Netham45> my school is trying to kill me.
[01:03:36] < Netham45> like, we have had 3 fires and a water main break in a little over a year
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[01:04:47] < Netham45> http://jeffcoweb.jeffco.k12.co.us/communications/releases/08%20News/2008.04.22graphing%20calcs.html    DONATE YOUR CALCULATORS!
[01:04:47] < Netham45> :D
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[01:14:45] < mohammad> join me or die
[01:15:09] < Netham45> gtfo, prime38.
[01:16:45] < mohammad> !k Netham45 jihad
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[01:16:57] < Netham45> durga durga
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[01:20:33] <+Nikky> Hi randomist!
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[01:28:42] <+Nikky> mohammad: ?
[01:31:31] < Netham45> =/
[01:31:36] < Netham45> I want my phone. :(
[01:31:40] <+Nikky> Did it die?
[01:31:45] < Netham45> no
[01:31:53] < Netham45> I left it in the science room at schoo
[01:31:55] < Netham45> school
[01:31:58] <+Nikky> fail
[01:32:01] < Netham45> the gym caught on fire earlier today
[01:32:22] <+Nikky> I see you were a victim of a Jihad
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[01:32:56] < Netham45> =/
[01:33:08] <+Nikky> mohammad better explain himself!
[01:33:36] < Netham45> I think trogdor better explain himself
[01:35:46] < phillip_> !k phillip_ jihad
[01:35:54] < phillip_> oops, soory
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[02:22:59] < Hunterkll> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv5qzMtLE60
[02:23:03] < Netham45> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Anti-Virus
[02:23:11] < Netham45> "Microsoft Anti-Virus for Windows was also provided by Central Point Software. This product became noted as determining that the upgrade program of Windows 95 was detected as a computer virus, something which was embarrassing to Microsoft[1]."
[02:23:13] < Netham45> hehehe
[02:31:55] < Sir_Lewk> on not huge on photography, but this is some of the most amazing stuff I have ever seen: http://www.brentstirton.com/
[02:32:05] < Sir_Lewk> stunning
[02:32:42] < Sir_Lewk> *I'm not huge on...
[02:36:14] < Sir_Lewk> some of those may be considered disturbing btw
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[02:38:13] < Ox40ZzZ> That photographer has a realllly nice camera
[02:39:22] < Sir_Lewk> yeah
[02:39:44] < Sir_Lewk> I think I may have seen some of his stuff in National Geographics before
[02:39:51] < Ox40ZzZ> yeah
[02:39:56] < Ox40ZzZ> poor gorillas... :(
[02:40:39] < Ox40ZzZ> holy cow http://www.brentstirton.com/photojournalism.php
[02:44:08] < DarkAuron> LMFAO @ xkcd
[02:46:05] < Sir_Lewk> that leg looks painful :(
[02:50:24] < Ox40ZzZ> MAN that camera must have cost a TON!
[02:50:31] < Ox40ZzZ> OH my GOD its amazing
[02:57:13] < PollTroll> I think the word "journalism" is not correctly used here
[02:57:20] < PollTroll> (in "photojournalism"
[02:57:21] < PollTroll> )
[02:57:32] < Ox40ZzZ> why?
[02:58:00] < PollTroll> context is missing
[02:58:34] < Ox40ZzZ> ? Huh? Photojournalism is exactly that - journalism through photographu
[02:58:36] < Ox40ZzZ> s/u/y/
[02:58:43] < PollTroll> and this isn't journalism
[02:58:45] < PollTroll> it's photography
[02:59:15] < PollTroll> I don't know if the first few people had just killed that gorilla to eat it, or if they found it dead and were giving it a proper burial
[02:59:19] < Ox40ZzZ> no, it's photojournalism
[02:59:27] < PollTroll> it's photography
[02:59:33] < Ox40ZzZ> click "Projects"
[03:00:10] < Ox40ZzZ> http://www.brentstirton.com/feature-gorillas.php
[03:04:10] < Ox40ZzZ> HOLY COW this is awesome: http://www.hightidepromo.com/large.html
[03:05:05] < PollTroll> it is automatically not awesome by having a ron paul banner on the page
[03:05:20] < Ox40ZzZ> just watch... the video, not the contents
[03:05:55]  * Randomist yawns and goes away to build a package to submit to the AUR.
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[03:10:23] < PollTroll> they didn't show the part where the gorillas killed and raped 37 of the villagers
[03:10:31] < PollTroll> and not necessarily in that order
[03:17:14] < Sir_Lewk> lol
[03:17:23] < Sir_Lewk> gorillas are badass
[03:17:31] <@Andy_J> we don't need no stinking context
[03:17:32] < Sir_Lewk> (and necrophiliacs)
[03:18:01] < Sir_Lewk> the photos are the context, you are left to interpret the events from the content given
[03:18:16] < Netham45> lol
[03:18:23] < Sir_Lewk> text is not the only way of conveying ideas
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[03:23:27] < Ox40ZzZ> TRONEPONEEA!!!!
[03:23:59] < Sir_Lewk> I always pronounced it "trip-oh-lee"
[03:24:19] < Sir_Lewk> or "trip-oh-lea"
[03:24:39] < Ox40ZzZ> Really?
[03:24:42] < Sir_Lewk> yeah
[03:24:42] <+Merthsoft> triplle-a
[03:24:55] <+Merthsoft> triple-a*
[03:25:03] < Sir_Lewk> not really logical if you look at the word, just sounds nice to me ;)
[03:25:11] < Ox40ZzZ> DAMN... The last 4 years I have been pronouncing it in my head as "T-r-one-p-one-e-a"
[03:25:35] < Ox40ZzZ> tripolee sounds cooler
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[03:25:57] < Sir_Lewk> lol
[03:33:35] < mohammad> yea i pronounce tripoli
[03:33:40] < mohammad> like "shores of tripoli"
[03:35:17] < chronomex> .... what
[03:37:59] < PollTroll> I remember this discussion from a few years back... the 1s and ls of my font were identical, so I asked tr1p1ea about it
[03:38:10] < PollTroll> I think he had an answer for the pronunciation
[03:38:12] < PollTroll> but I forget it
[03:38:36] <+Merthsoft> it's triple-a
[03:38:42] < PollTroll> lies
[03:38:44] <+Merthsoft> no
[03:39:06] < PollTroll> yes
[03:39:16] <@Grue> Ox40 fails. :)
[03:41:31] < chronomex> I pronounce it like trip-lee
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[03:42:42] <@Andy_J> I do believe Merthsoft is correct
[03:43:27] <@Grue> *gasp* Merthsoft... correct?! NO WAI
[03:44:16] <@Andy_J> though he has stated more recently that he does not care
[03:44:58] < chronomex> it is triple-A, but I still see it as trip-lee
[03:52:04] < mohammad> which is similar to tripoli
[03:52:39] < mohammad> tripoli isnt trying to be the pronunciation, its a word
[03:52:48] < mohammad> a place, rather
[03:53:28] < mohammad> like from the marine hymn
[03:57:39] < PollTroll> remote desktop is the coolest thing ever
[03:58:03] <@Grue> so much for sliced bread, eh?
[03:58:55] < PollTroll> this is exactly what computing should be
[03:59:01] < PollTroll> portable yet powerful
[03:59:05] < mohammad> i actually know some people in the u.s. marine corps band
[03:59:11] < mohammad> and got to play with them
[04:00:08] < PollTroll> bailala
[04:06:51] <+Nikky> Ox1e1ea is retarded
[04:07:04] <+Nikky> mohammad: Troll.
[04:07:08] <+Nikky> PollTroll: Champ
[04:07:39] < mohammad> Nikky: you are completly ridiculous
[04:08:13] <+Nikky> I am?
[04:08:19] <+Merthsoft> Nikky: <3
[04:08:28]  * chronomex licks Nikky
[04:08:31] <+Nikky> At least I don't kick people--even turds like netham--for no good reason.
[04:08:35]  * chronomex goes off to math homework
[04:09:02] < chronomex> Nikky: "because I want to" and "because they're turds/asshats" are reasons
[04:09:09] < chronomex> not really good reasons though
[04:09:32] < mohammad> and, using Nikky's logic, that statement of his isnt even true
[04:10:00] < chronomex> haha
[04:10:03] <+Nikky> Oh really?
[04:10:16] <+Nikky> Hi Merthsoft :)
[04:10:18] < mohammad> i dont have any examples ready, but they exist
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[04:36:02] < PollTroll> you exist
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[04:37:01] < PollTroll> remote desktop is better than screen
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[04:38:56] < PollTroll> I wonder if it can be used remotely without VPN
[04:44:06] < mohammad> india is a messed up place
[04:44:26] < mohammad> and so is the part of the world where i am worshipped
[04:45:25] < Ox1e1ea> Brandon_W took over MirageOS
[04:45:28] < Ox1e1ea> ?
[04:45:41] < mohammad> welcome to two weeks ago
[04:46:12] < Ox1e1ea> GAWD
[04:46:14] < Ox1e1ea> You suck
[04:46:22] < Ox1e1ea> WTF is up with this fake news crap?
[04:46:31] < Spengo> lulz
[04:46:53] < Ox1e1ea> damn you all!!!
[04:46:54] < Ox1e1ea> :D
[04:46:57] < Spengo> D:
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[04:51:35] < PollTroll> so let's wait for one more
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[05:20:45] < tr1p1ea> ... has anyone noticed that ticalc.org is bugged?
[05:21:29] < PollTroll> bugged?
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[05:22:30] < tr1p1ea> i dont think it counts how many files a person has in their account correctly
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[05:23:01] < PollTroll> it doesn't count graphic files
[05:23:03] < tr1p1ea> i guess they just exclude certain things
[05:23:08] < PollTroll> or ebooks
[05:23:26] < tr1p1ea> yeah
[05:23:31] < PollTroll> they made that change when some people were just uploading hundred of graphic files to be number one
[05:23:40] < tr1p1ea> or animations, even if they are competely programmed
[05:23:41] < PollTroll> I think the main culprit was William White or something like that
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[05:28:36] < Spengo> agh
[05:28:39] < Spengo> I friggin hate firebats
[05:28:43] < Spengo> when I'm zerg
[05:28:50] <+Nikky> pwnt
[05:28:58] < Spengo> all my poor little zerglings T_T
[05:29:14] < Spengo> I still won though...
[05:29:35] < Spengo> firebats can't kill hydras, they always blast them before they get in range
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[05:30:56] < tr1p1ea> like noice, http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/authors/61/6179.html
[05:31:11] < tr1p1ea> im sure he has more than 279 dl's ... just of course anims arent ranked
[05:31:38] < DarkAuron> which sucks
[05:31:42] < DarkAuron> senilym was fun
[05:31:54] < DarkAuron> I bet I could go back to senilym and optimize it a bit
[05:32:07] < tr1p1ea> ^_^
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[05:36:11] < DarkAuron> I'm tempted to, actually.
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[05:37:28] <@efneTI86> [Netham45] netham45 netham45 netham45 nethaERROR STACK OVERFLOW
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[06:25:43] <@efneTI86> [DA|ES-IV] We called it Sin.
[06:25:54] < Netham45> awesome
[06:26:16] < Netham45> my internet ranks 5th VS. the AVERAGE highest internet speeds in the world
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[06:26:54] < Netham45> erm
[06:26:57] < Netham45> in my continent
[06:27:44] < E-J> and how fast it is and how much it costs?
[06:29:53] < Netham45> 31Mbps
[06:29:59] < Netham45> and about $50USD/mo
[06:30:13] < Netham45> my upload sucks though
[06:30:46] < E-J> not bad
[06:31:05] < E-J> normally upload is much less
[06:31:14] < Netham45> yea
[06:31:18] < Netham45> 1.2Mbps upload
[06:31:21] < E-J> like i have adsl 8/1
[06:32:08] < Netham45> http://netham45.org/speedtest2.jpg
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[06:32:14] < Netham45> that's a speedtest on mine
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[06:32:44] < E-J> i could get 48/6, but it costs a lot
[06:32:59] < Netham45> heh, yea
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[06:34:53] < E-J> well acording to that site, i have 17320kb/s and 808kb/s
[06:35:00] < Netham45> ok
[06:35:15] < Netham45> the speed isn't limited, that is most likely your guarinteed minimum
[06:35:29] < Netham45> but
[06:35:30] < Netham45> I g2g, bbl.
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[06:44:16] <+Nikky> nice ping there
[06:44:20] <+Nikky> too bad comcast sucks balls
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[06:51:21] <+Nikky> Hey
[06:51:25] <+Nikky> We were just talking about you.
[06:53:34] < tr1p1ea> and i you
[07:08:53] < tr1p1ea> DDDDDRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAIIIIINNNNNNNNAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:09:43] < chronomex> tr1p1ea: stop
[07:10:09] < chronomex> you've said that twice today
[07:10:24] <+Nikky> drainage?
[07:10:50] < chronomex> yes
[07:12:46] <+Nikky> well
[07:12:51] <+Nikky> you shouldn'te tell him what to do
[07:12:55] <+Nikky> or he'll ban uyoiu
[07:14:06] < chronomex> ok
[07:14:20] < chronomex> tr1p1ea: do what the fuck you want
[07:14:29] <+Nikky> that's the attitude!
[07:14:46]  * Nikky eats chronomex 
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[07:17:01] < chronomex> glk should really have a gopher server
[07:17:09] < chronomex> it'd fit his data structure better
[07:17:40] <+Nikky> haha
[07:17:41] <+Nikky> yes!
[07:18:07] < chronomex> glad you agree :)
[07:21:15] < DA|ES-IV> [C: 0.44/74.55GB 0.6% free] - [F: 0/0GB 0% free] - [H: 0.23/149.04GB 0.15% free] - [Total: 0.67/223.59GB 0.3% free]
[07:21:22]  * DA|ES-IV winces
[07:21:49] < chronomex> nice
[07:21:59] < chronomex> 670M free?
[07:22:13] < chronomex> you win man
[07:22:19] < chronomex> good for you, get your money's worth
[07:22:51] < tr1p1ea> O_o
[07:32:32] < DA|ES-IV> lol
[07:32:36] < DA|ES-IV> I've been downloading a lot of oblivion mods lately
[07:32:39] < DA|ES-IV> they're kinda big
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[08:38:31] < DA|ES-IV> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134650
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[09:41:32] <@efneTI86> [Speng0] We do what we must because we can
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[09:47:18] < tr1p1ea> so no-one has seen 'There will be blood'?
[09:47:54] < DA|ES-IV> not me
[09:48:45] < tr1p1ea> well thats what that drainage thing is from
[09:48:53] < DA|ES-IV> lol
[09:49:08] < DA|ES-IV> I could see why
[09:49:18] < DA|ES-IV> I watched a trailer for it
[09:49:21] < DA|ES-IV> it looks good
[09:49:24] < DA|ES-IV> somewhat
[09:49:32] < tr1p1ea> its long and ... well
[09:50:17] < tr1p1ea> directed specifically to win an oscar you could say
[09:50:22] < DA|ES-IV> ah
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[10:31:11] <@efneTI86> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing?
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[11:10:51] <@efneTI86> [DSP_Lord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
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[11:11:53] <@efneTI86> [Leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
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[12:00:05] < baklava> is there a log function that takes the base and expression on an 89?
[12:05:14] <+Tari> maybe
[12:05:25] <+Tari> but you can also do log(x)/log(y)
[12:06:02] <+Tari> log base x of y == log(y)/log(x)
[12:06:31] <+Tari> unless I have it backwards
[12:08:17] < baklava> no, that's what it is, I was just curious if there was a function instead of using change of base because I didn't see it in the catalog
[12:08:39] <+Tari> yeah, I don't know
[12:08:43] <+Tari> I don't even have an 89
[12:09:02] <+Tari> :P
[12:09:48] < baklava> :P
[12:10:23] <+nicolas>  I remember I once wrote a symbolic/omnical program like that allowed me to pass 2 args to Log() ... as in Log(base, value) .. dunno if it exists in omnicalc or not
[12:17:04] < baklava> alright, well thanks for the help :)
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[12:59:36] <@efneTI86> [notLeofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
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[13:30:15] < tr1p1ea> DARK CHEST OF WONDER!
[13:31:00] < DA|ES-IV> O.o
[13:31:15] < tr1p1ea> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNXxdYCONCI
[13:31:59] < DA|ES-IV> dark chest of wonder?
[13:32:48] <@benryves> 'lo tr1p1ea, DA|ES-IV.
[13:33:04] < DA|ES-IV> morning
[13:33:12] < tr1p1ea> http://www.firefox-start.com/screenshot/Cristiano_Ronaldo.jpg
[13:33:31] < DA|ES-IV> 1. that's a really gay picture
[13:33:36] < DA|ES-IV> 2. what does that have to do with dark chest of wonder?
[13:33:48] < DA|ES-IV> 3. why is that picture on firefox-start.com?
[13:34:30] < tr1p1ea> 3 no idea
[13:34:36] < tr1p1ea> 1 ...
[13:34:42] < tr1p1ea> 2 watch the vid
[13:35:28] < DA|ES-IV> don't feel like it :x
[13:35:36] < DA|ES-IV> it looks like a compilation of soccer videos
[13:35:41] < DA|ES-IV> with that guy
[13:35:43] < tr1p1ea> more specifically as far as the random entrance text is concerned, its the name of the song
[13:36:11] < tr1p1ea> you americans will soon learn who he is
[13:36:33] < tr1p1ea> since he is about to become the 'michael jordan' of soccer
[13:36:42] < DA|ES-IV> I have no interest in celebrities or sports
[13:36:50] < tr1p1ea> :S
[13:36:58] < DA|ES-IV> other than michael jordan is black and plays basketball, I don't know anything about him
[13:36:59] <@benryves> Good on you, DA|ES-IV.
[13:37:01] < DA|ES-IV> at all
[13:37:37] < DA|ES-IV> oh, and that he's famous for being good at running back and forth in a court while throwing a ball into a hoop/net
[13:37:52] < DA|ES-IV> which is completely useless in life and quite overrated.
[13:38:07] < tr1p1ea> worked out for him quite well :)
[13:38:08] < DA|ES-IV> But that's just my view on sports and celebrity gossip :P
[13:39:41] < tr1p1ea> personally, i love sports
[13:39:49] < tr1p1ea> just got back from basketball actually
[13:41:44] <@benryves> Playing and spectating are two rather different things.
[13:41:55] < tr1p1ea> (i was playing)
[13:42:07] <@benryves> I assumed that ;)
[13:42:42] < tr1p1ea> ^_^
[13:42:49]  * benryves hasn't done any sort of sport in, what, three/four years?
[13:42:59] < tr1p1ea> what did you play
[13:43:13] <@benryves> I did cross-country running, mainly.
[13:44:19] < tr1p1ea> fitness man!
[13:44:26] < tr1p1ea> i need to get fit :(
[13:44:33] < tr1p1ea> i injured my quad
[13:44:43] < tr1p1ea> :S
[13:45:53] < tr1p1ea> i play aussie rules football for my club in the 1st team, but its annoying having to watch on the weekends and not being able to train hard is annoying too
[13:46:11] < tr1p1ea> due to these silly leg injuries i keep getting
[13:47:15] <@benryves> Hm, that sucks :(
[13:47:42] <@benryves> I'd probably be more concerned if I appeared unfit, but as I don't, I'm not.
[13:57:29] <@benryves> So, tr1p1ea; how's the raycaster? Done any more work on it?
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[15:25:54] < tr1p1ea> benryves: got a simple one working on my DS(getting all the amth scaling and stuff working), unfortunately havent done much else
[15:26:11] < tr1p1ea> there are still some problem with my trig tables i believe
[15:26:14] < tr1p1ea> http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/4233/rcaa4.png
[15:26:15] <@benryves> Ah, OK.
[15:27:04] <@benryves> Looking good :D
[15:27:18] < tr1p1ea> angles at 0,90,180,270 give me grief with my tan tables
[15:27:30] <@benryves> Hm, a sudden spike in the world?
[15:29:00] <@benryves> I'd like to write one, but my only successful attempt was much too slow to be of any use.
[15:30:13] < tr1p1ea> yeah theres a spike
[15:30:20] < tr1p1ea> due to the big tan value
[15:30:35] < tr1p1ea> well, you *did* write one
[15:31:02] <@benryves> Hm, not sure what you could do about that (without either using floating-point maths or an ugly that simply ignores 0/90/180/270 and uses the adjacent angle instead).
[15:31:12] <@benryves> *an ugly hack
[15:31:19] < tr1p1ea> yeah :\
[15:31:50] <@benryves> And, as a complete aside, is there any way that you know of to make fastish-scrolling greyscale look good?
[15:32:12] < tr1p1ea> as in non blurry?
[15:32:36] <@benryves> It's not so much blurry as noisy, thanks to the dithering.
[15:32:43] < tr1p1ea> ahh right
[15:33:20] < tr1p1ea> well there isnt a great deal you can do about it really, it usually depends on which direction you scroll
[15:33:30] < tr1p1ea> been writing some grayscale routines have we? :)
[15:33:48] <@benryves> Yeah, I thought I'd see how the tiles and maps I did for the Game Gear Fire Track would look on the TI.
[15:34:06] <@benryves> (In case you hadn't already worked it out: absolutely dreadful) :)
[15:34:26] < tr1p1ea> what model calc did you try it on?
[15:34:57] <@benryves> Regular 83+
[15:34:57] < tr1p1ea> it would probably look alright on an 84
[15:35:11] <@benryves> Ah, better LCD?
[15:35:22] < tr1p1ea> yeah newer controller
[15:35:42] < tr1p1ea> pixels seem to be sharper and dont stay for as long
[15:35:53] <@benryves> Nice. :D
[15:36:17] <@benryves> I'd like to write something for the TI calcs, really. Just don't have much inspiration for projects. :\
[15:36:19] < tr1p1ea> how do your gray routines work?
[15:39:35] <@benryves> I'm using the xor-trick (and doing a nine-bit rotation of %011011011 as the mask). The buffer format is pretty stupid, truth be told (stored in columns, rather than rows, and the two layers are interleaved). Makes vertical scrolling and aligned sprite drawing nice and fast, though.
[15:41:13] < tr1p1ea> ahh nice :)
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[15:42:56] < tr1p1ea> you're getting a nice playable speed out of it?
[15:43:33] <@benryves> No sprites, just background, so yes, it's not hard. ;)
[15:44:52] < tr1p1ea> rotating the mask like that might be contributing to the scrolling noise though
[15:45:05] <@benryves> Aye. How do you do it?
[15:45:36] < tr1p1ea> err i mean
[15:45:57] < tr1p1ea> dont listen to me, thats how i do it too :)
[15:48:24] <@benryves> Heh :)
[15:48:42] < tr1p1ea> how many clocks between writes to the LCD are you down to?
[15:49:26] <@benryves> I haven't counted :\ I'm using the OS call to write safely...
[15:49:34] < tr1p1ea> oh
[15:49:45] <@benryves> (I know, I know) :P
[15:49:57] < tr1p1ea> :)
[15:50:19] < tr1p1ea> well fine tuning the timing is quite important
[15:51:10] < tr1p1ea> at what freq is your interrupt running at?
[15:51:29] <@benryves> The default / 2.
[15:51:38] <@benryves> ...with a jp $3A on the end to boot.
[15:51:44] < tr1p1ea> o_o
[15:52:10] < tr1p1ea> why are you doing that?
[15:52:58] < DA|ES-IV> hax
[15:53:12] <@benryves> Sheer laziness (I've only worked on this for a couple of hours, and would rather be using _GetCSC than fudging around with the key port). :)
[15:53:19] < tr1p1ea> you need a romcall or something?
[15:53:32] <@benryves> Flicker-free greyscale this isn't. :|
[15:53:53] < tr1p1ea> well a big step to getting rid of the noise is getting rid of the flicker
[15:54:55] <@benryves> I suppose so. :)
[15:55:21] < tr1p1ea> but you'll need to cave and use direct input and berid yourself of the lcd_wait
[15:55:58] <@benryves> Aye. What I'd like to do isn't possible anyway, so I think I'd rather direct my attention elsewhere.
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[15:57:25] < tr1p1ea> what isnt possible?
[15:58:09] < tr1p1ea> i suppose FT has a lot of sprites on screen and such
[15:58:16] <@benryves> Well, the current Fire Track runs very sedately and is in pure black and white, and even then it's blurry to the point of being unplayable. :\
[15:58:41] < tr1p1ea> Fire Track is an awesome game, you are too harsh on it
[16:00:01] <@benryves> Heh, maybe so, but it's nothing like as good as I'd want it to be. ;)
[16:00:07] < tr1p1ea> :)
[16:01:27] <@benryves> Ideally, I'd like to bring it in line with the Game Gear version (90% of the code is already written!) but the blurry, low-res LCD doesn't really make it look like that'd be practical. :\
[16:04:14] <@benryves> I run into the same problem with my desire to write/convert 80s-style flick-screen games to the calculator - not enough available screen resolution to cram in decent rooms.
[16:07:15] < tr1p1ea> yeah, the screen resolution is something we are always fighting with
[16:07:31] < tr1p1ea> how to make X look good in as little amount of pixels as possible
[16:08:13] <@benryves> Flick-screen games would at least alleviate the scrolling problem :)
[16:08:22] < tr1p1ea> yup :)
[16:08:45] < tr1p1ea> anyways i need to get some sleep, have to be up in ~2.5 hours
[16:08:48] <@benryves> I don't think there's a Zaxxon clone for the calcs, that might work quite well.
[16:08:49] <@benryves> See you!
[16:08:58] < tr1p1ea> (and no, not metric hours :P)
[16:09:13] <@benryves> Heh :)
[16:09:15] <@benryves> 'night!
[16:12:18] < E-J> oh, tr1p1ea goes to sleep this early
[16:12:22] < E-J> incredible
[16:12:58] <@benryves> Heya E-J :)
[16:13:29] < E-J> hey ben
[16:14:09] < E-J> had seminar today, finally that pain is over
[16:14:24] <@benryves> Seminar on what?
[16:15:37] < E-J> seminar course on school, you pick some subject and then you have some months to make 10-20 pages long writing about it and make 20 minutes powerpoint-show 
[16:16:02] < E-J> subject i chose was security robots
[16:16:35] <@benryves> Ah, cool. :D
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[16:18:28] < E-J> http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Science-Fiction-News.asp?NewsNum=762 like this or http://www.spawar.navy.mil/robots/resources/marsupial/marsupial.html these or http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2007/05/133_3122.html this
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[16:38:11] <@efneTI86> [jujaga] Here comes stupid...
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[16:46:07] < i_c-Y> hai guys
[16:46:10] < i_c-Y> so i got wifi
[16:46:12] < E-J> http://crap.fi/?i=6426
[16:46:56] <@benryves> i_c-Y: Many congratulations on your marriage.
[16:47:06] < i_c-Y> hm?
[16:47:16] < i_c-Y> o_0
[16:47:43] <@benryves> Oooh, you're my wifi now, Dave.
[16:48:05] < i_c-Y> o_0
[16:48:06] < i_c-Y> no
[16:48:15] < i_c-Y> i told my dad to bring in my old router
[16:48:20] < i_c-Y> and i set it up in my room as a hidden AP
[16:48:48] < E-J> http://fishki.net/comment.php?id=34235
[16:48:50] < i_c-Y> no more network cable fell out i disconnect
[16:49:08] < i_c-Y> now its wireless drops i disconnect
[16:49:31] < i_c-Y> its not super secure thoguh, WPA-PSK :-/
[16:49:40] < i_c-Y> routers not new enough to do wpa2
[16:49:47] <@benryves> E-J: Some NSFW ads on that one. >_>
[16:49:58] < i_c-Y> well you shouldnt be IRCing at work
[16:50:01] < i_c-Y> problem solved
[16:50:01] < E-J> benryves: yah, sorry
[16:50:36] < E-J> my wlan is nowdays only wep-secured, but some neighbours have non-secure networks
[16:51:00] < i_c-Y> well its not broadcasting SSID so thats enough to stop most people
[16:51:00] < i_c-Y> :D
[16:51:14] < i_c-Y> plus, why would you go after mine if the rest of em around are WEP or nothing
[16:51:38] <@benryves> Heh, all the networks that pop up for me are secured.
[16:51:52] <@benryves> Though I don't know why routers aren't secured by default :\
[16:52:00] < E-J> and according to local law court, it's even illegal to use someone other's non-secure wlan
[16:52:45] < E-J> (someone got fines because he used someone other's wlan)
[16:52:50] < i_c-Y> ive got mac address filtering too so most people are too stupid to get on 
[16:52:52] < i_c-Y> so im not worried
[16:53:15] < i_c-Y> and all the people smart enough to get on are out of range of the wifi, like kerm.
[16:53:33] < i_c-Y> cause its really a dumb security setup. so its alright. (it also helps that im not at ground level)
[16:54:03] < E-J> i think i had mac address filtering, not sure though
[16:54:14] <@benryves> E-J: Aye, but that makes sense.
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[17:05:00] < Andy_J> I'm running WPA2 on 5GHz .11n-only >_>
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[17:05:45] <@Andy_J> I probably could run it unsecured at that freqnecy but it doesn't let me use anything less XD
[17:14:02] <+nicolas> hmm.. when you're running in .11n only WPA2 is mandatory, IIRC
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[17:14:39] <@Andy_J> yeah
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[17:19:31] <@efneTI86> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing?
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[18:18:14] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] I need an infoline
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[18:22:51] < _Digital> !t Welcome to #TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org/ | ticalc.org is now 50% fake news | Optimus Maximus Keyboard is really expensive
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[18:30:16] < i_c-Y> !t Welcome to #TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org/
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[18:30:25] < _Digital> :(
[18:30:28] < _Digital> pooh on you
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[18:32:47] < i_c-Y> !t Welcome to #TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org/
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[18:32:50] < i_c-Y> we dont care.
[18:33:05] < _Digital> you're in a mood today
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[18:35:48] < _Digital> did you guys actually see the product?
[18:36:04] < chronomex> what product?
[18:36:47] < _Digital> the optimus keyboard
[18:36:53] < _Digital> Thikn Geek is selling them too
[18:37:02] < _Digital> it'll set you back 1600 bucks though
[18:37:17] < _Digital> brb, need to switch routers
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[18:38:55] <@efneTI86> [rivereye[] Is it time to go fishing?
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[18:43:25] <@efneTI86> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
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[18:44:54] < _Digital> lol
[18:45:12] <+KermM> that's strange
[18:45:15] <+KermM> netsplit?
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[18:47:00] < _Digital> no, netsplit gives a server address in the disconnect message
[18:47:22] <+KermM> ah, true
[18:47:39] <@Andy_J> two of them actually
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[18:48:49] <+KermM> which two?
[18:49:16] <@Andy_J> the two that split
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[19:04:00] < Netham45> I want my phone. :(
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[19:27:26] <+Merthsoft> woot, I made fellow in the CS department at my school!
[19:27:34] <+KermM> gj
[19:28:17] <+Merthsoft> thanks
[19:28:26] <@Andy_J> ?
[19:29:38] <+Merthsoft> i'll be a tutor, and i'll get to attend special departmental things. I don't really know all the details, but it means all the profs voted and chose me as the best.
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[19:31:58] < Netham45> wait
[19:32:05] <@Andy_J> oh
[19:32:07] <+Merthsoft> what?
[19:32:08] < Netham45> the optimus maximus keyboards are public?
[19:32:12] <@Andy_J> I thought you were missing a word
[19:32:15] <@Andy_J> or two
[19:32:18] <@Andy_J> I got it now.
[19:32:32] <+Merthsoft> oh, yeah, fellow is the title
[19:32:32] < Netham45> damnit
[19:32:35] <+Merthsoft> Fellow i suppose
[19:32:41] < Netham45> can anyone loan me $1,589.99?
[19:32:44] <+Merthsoft> yeah
[19:32:57] <@Andy_J> Netham45: At 1000% daily interest, sure
[19:33:12] <@Andy_J> Compounding interest.
[19:33:48] <@Andy_J> Which means since you'd owe me $15,899.90 at the end of today, it's probably not worth it.
[19:34:05] < Netham45> owing and paying are 2 different things.
[19:34:17] <@Andy_J> Have I mentioned the payback term is 1 day?
[19:34:31] <@Andy_J> And that I'd send Stewie after you if you don't pay me?
[19:34:44] < Netham45> I'd hold Rupert ransom
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[19:46:13] <+KermM> <xchlathx> "Dumbledore returns from the dead and declares it to be hammertime, Harry proceeds to break it down, Voldemort is unable to touch this."
[19:47:10]  * Andy_J facepalms
[19:50:10] < chronomex> haha
[19:50:14]  * chronomex snerks
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[20:07:19] <+Nikky> Andy_J: You can'd do that loan
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[20:16:28] < Speng0> lulz
[20:16:33] < Speng0> yahtzee doesn't like smash bros
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[21:01:28] <@efneTI86> [Ox40] File Deletion is Murder!
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[21:03:38] <@efneTI86> [rivereye[] Is it time to go fishing?
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[21:19:07] < Ox40> bla
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[21:19:12] <@efneTI86> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing?
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[22:18:24] < Spengo> oh man
[22:18:26] < Spengo> that was INTENSE
[22:18:44] < Spengo> so, I rode my bike 3 miles down the road to an interview in a big wind and rain storm
[22:19:04] < Spengo> on the way there, piece of cake, wind was blowing at my back, took me 10-15 minutes or so
[22:19:07] < Spengo> on the way back...
[22:19:10] < Spengo> :|
[22:31:36] <+Nikky> http://www.unitedti.org/index.php?showtopic=7892&hl=
[22:31:39] <+Nikky> ^^ dumbass
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[22:33:11] <+Nikky> man, that ben kid is pushing calc.org hard
[22:33:15] <+KermM> very hard
[22:33:19] <+Nikky> he's the new kerm
[22:33:21] <+Nikky> oh hi kerm
[22:33:24] <+KermM> >.<
[22:33:32] <@Andy_J> heh
[22:33:35] <+Nikky> I actually didn't know you were on
[22:33:52] <+Nikky> but congratulations, someone is more spammy than you are
[22:33:53] <+Nikky> :)
[22:34:25] <+Nikky> http://www.unitedti.org/index.php?showtopic=7897&st=0
[22:34:33] <+Nikky> He doesn't like .doc.. and wants PDF instead?
[22:34:34] <@Andy_J> Just reading the first bullet point of that quote block makes me want to stab that guy
[22:34:35] <+Nikky> rotfl
[22:34:49] <@Andy_J> Actually, I would much rather have pdf than doc
[22:34:51] < Spengo> haha
[22:34:57] <@Andy_J> because I have nothing that can open .doc properly
[22:35:10] <@Andy_J> but I have a nice program that came with the OS that can read .pdf perfectly
[22:35:17] <@Andy_J> and even ignores printing passwords XD
[22:35:26] < Spengo> lmao that's the hugest email ever
[22:35:39] < Spengo> he needs to include a tl;dr
[22:35:58] <+Nikky> but yeah, that message is stupid
[22:36:11] <+Nikky> giving someone a laundry list of 20 retarded reasons isn't very effective
[22:36:14] < Spengo> lmao
[22:36:24] <+Nikky> I like how he wants "community links" on ticalc.org
[22:36:27] < Spengo> we need to send him openoffice files
[22:36:29] <@Andy_J> I want to bitchslap him.
[22:36:36] <+Nikky> which really means "forward ticalc.org to unitedti.org"
[22:36:36] <@Andy_J> Spengo: No, WordPerfect files.
[22:36:37] < Spengo> and be like WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?!
[22:36:58] <+Nikky> and that how he implies ticalc is not "connected" with the "community"
[22:37:04] <+Nikky> meaning "ticalc hates unitedti"
[22:39:14] <+KermM> which is true.
[22:39:22] <+Nikky> well, who doesn't hate UTI
[22:39:33] <+KermM> all the UTI regulars?
[22:39:35] <@Andy_J> UTI.
[22:39:42] <+KermM> precisely.
[22:39:42] <+Nikky> touche
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[22:44:34]  * Randomist waves, then goes back to studying for the SAT.
[22:45:15] <@Andy_J> Allow me to make it easier for you to study. >_>
[22:54:57] <+Nikky> meanie
[23:04:51] < PollTroll> _Digital: your message gave me a 404
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[23:48:42] < chronomex> Randomist: you have to study for the sat?
[23:50:46] <+Nikky> I didn't take the SAT
[23:50:54] < i_c-Y> act?
[23:50:57] <+Nikky> no
[23:51:12] < i_c-Y> got in cause you're super smooth?
[23:51:17] <+Nikky> yes
[23:53:56] < Randomist> I have to take it on May 3rd, I think.
[23:54:41] < Randomist> So, I figure, I better do _some_ studying so I'm at least [a little] ready when I actually take it.
[23:55:02] <+patz2009> I got a 30 on the ACT on April 12
[23:56:08] <+Nikky>  nerds
[23:56:19] <+Nikky> standardized tests are for wusses
[23:56:38] < chronomex> patz2009: weakling
[23:56:45] < i_c-Y> good luck, Randomist , patz2009 
[23:56:49] <+ports> patz2009, 30? you must be a virgin :P
[23:56:54] <+patz2009> I know, I really wanted a higher score.
[23:56:59] < chronomex> I got 30 in middle school
[23:56:59] <+patz2009> It was my first time taking it.
[23:57:13] <+KermM> I took the old SAT
[23:57:23] <+ports> i took the ACT & SAT back in the old days
[23:57:25] < i_c-Y> i took the old sat in middle school
[23:57:29] <+KermM> same
[23:57:36] <+KermM> (@ i_c-Y
[23:57:41] < Randomist> The ACT is the one you cannot use an 89 on, isn't it?
[23:57:44] <+Nikky> I never took the ACT
[23:57:45] < chronomex> yes
[23:57:46] <+Nikky> so...
[23:57:47] < i_c-Y> i think so.
[23:57:49] < chronomex> no 89 on ACT
[23:57:51] < i_c-Y> ACT is for losers.
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