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[00:00:08] < chronomex> wow
[00:00:51] < prime38> i dont have that much
[00:00:53] < prime38> just this http://h1.ripway.com/prime38/tistuff.jpg
[00:00:57] < tifreak> 73 81 82 83x2 83+ 83+green 83+SEx2 84+ 84+SE 85x2 86x2 89hw1 89hw2 92+
[00:01:19] < tifreak> yup, guess it was 18
[00:01:21] < tifreak> :)
[00:01:51] <@E-J> nowdays i only have one ti-86, one fx-7300g and 2 scientific calcs by casio
[00:01:51] < tifreak> 1 83 and 1 85 have screens that are missing columns of pixels... but they still work
[00:02:19] <@E-J> i sent my broken v200 to brandon
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[00:02:33] <@E-J> no need for big amount of calcs
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[00:02:50] < tifreak> I sent my first 73 to Brandon, cause it had the very first OS on it
[00:03:04] < tifreak> and he wanted it, VERY badly :P
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[00:18:54] < Sir_Lewk> this is such an awesome calculator
[00:20:08] < tifreak8x> basic sucks on the 86 pretty badly... :P
[00:20:20] < tifreak8x> asm is awesome on it though, specially Mega Man 86
[00:21:21] < Sir_Lewk> yeah, this was very much worth a 83+ and $15 dollars
[00:25:55] < i_c-Y> chronomex: so i herd u have a 49g
[00:30:45] < Commando1> ...
[00:30:46] < Commando1> its snowing
[00:30:53] < Commando1> its kinda odd how you can tell
[00:30:58] < Commando1> the sky is always foggy white when it happens
[00:36:23] < chronomex> i_c-Y: I do
[00:36:37] < chronomex> Commando1: where are you?
[00:36:44] < Commando1> oregon
[00:36:55] < chronomex> 's snowing here in seattle too
[00:36:59] < chronomex> not atm but offandon
[00:37:26] < i_c-Y> how is it and where did you get it?
[00:38:06] < chronomex> it sucks monkeyballs, I got it online when they still made them
[00:38:16] < chronomex> I also have a 49G+ which is much better
[00:38:32] < chronomex> they don't make that either any more
[00:38:40] < chronomex> get the 50G, I hear it's awesome
[00:39:19] < tifreak8x> lol
[00:42:51] < chronomex> my geog teacher is such a technophobe I'm surprised that the assignments aren't mimeographed
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[00:51:06]  * MetalRand sort-of "yay"s.
[00:51:25] < MetalRand> I maybe -- just maybe -- have the possibility of getting a TI-89.
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[00:53:09] < glk> They are cheaper on ebay
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[00:53:21] <@efneTI86> [Tyler2] I no longer speak fluent dialup.
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[01:01:40] < chronomex> good god, I go away for a week and there's 20 reviews in the queue
[01:04:34] <+Nikky> that's nice
[01:04:40] < chronomex> it is!
[01:04:49] < chronomex> I guess neurotically checking it every day makes them go away
[01:09:02] < PollTroll> i hate reviewing reviews
[01:09:22] < PollTroll> it makes me lose all faith in education
[01:11:22] <+Nikky> Well, that makes sense
[01:11:31] <+Nikky> the people who write reviews are the ones playing games in class
[01:11:36] <+Nikky> instead of paying attention
[01:12:24] < chronomex> actually most of what I get are ... literate
[01:13:34] < glk> http://www.laurowski.de/hp49/ti89hp49_comparison/ti89-hp49.htm
[01:13:41] < glk> compare
[01:21:37] < chronomex> No thin
No thaknks
[01:22:00] < chronomex> ugh
[01:22:02] < chronomex> No thanks.
[01:23:30] < chronomex> new survey time!
[01:23:31] < chronomex> ideas?
[01:24:33] < i_c-Y> lag
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[01:25:19] <+Nikky> i_c-Y sucks
[01:25:22] <+Nikky> ur interwebs fail
[01:25:29] < i_c-Y> glk, can you send that link again?
[01:25:32] < i_c-Y> Nikky: :(
[01:25:32] <+Nikky> more like, cooperinterwebs fail
[01:25:48] < i_c-Y> its partially due to me not having a clip on my ethernet cable
[01:25:54] < i_c-Y> so it keeps falling out when i move my computer
[01:26:00] <+Nikky> I'm not sure how that matters if you're running a shell
[01:26:13] < i_c-Y> not all of us can afford to have detached clients :(
[01:26:38] < i_c-Y> and i had to upgrade xchat anyway
[01:27:03] <+Nikky> www.irssi.com
[01:27:11] <+Nikky> .org, actually
[01:28:03] < i_c-Y> i have irssi on this machine too.
[01:29:23] < i_c-Y> so guys
[01:29:31] < i_c-Y> what happens when you integrate 1/cabin with respect to cabin?
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[01:30:41] < i_c-Y> its Log cabin!
[01:30:50] < chronomex> ur cute
[01:30:57] < i_c-Y> thats not a factorial.
[01:30:59] < i_c-Y> chronomex: i know
[01:31:26] < i_c-Y> A vulture boards an airplane, carrying two dead raccoons. The stewardess looks at him and says, “I’m sorry Sir, only one carrion allowed per passenger.”
[01:32:02]  * chronomex huggles i_c-Y
[01:32:11]  * chronomex huggles Nikky for completeness
[01:32:14] < i_c-Y> :)
[01:32:22] < tifreak8x> lol icy
[01:32:27] < PollTroll> JAJAJAJA!!!
[01:32:30] < i_c-Y> :)
[01:32:33] < PollTroll> s/J/H/g
[01:32:47] < PollTroll> spanish
[01:33:19] < tifreak8x> Two dyslexic bank robbers walk into a bank and scream "Air in the hand mother sticker, this is a fuck up!"
[01:34:16] < i_c-Y> haha
[01:35:45] < prime38> what happened t cricket
[01:35:57] < prime38> did he leave on his own accord?
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[01:37:27] < chronomex> haha
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[01:44:25] < Netham45> chronomex, heres a survey idea: Who do you hate the most,  cricket_b/randomist/netham45/nikky/kerm...
[01:44:30] < chronomex> no
[01:44:32] < chronomex> No.
[01:44:43] < chronomex> No personal attacks in the surveys
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[01:45:04] < Netham45> here's another one, how often do you check ticalc.org,  hourly/daily/weekly/monthly/only on april fools
[01:45:16] < chronomex> I like that better, but it's not quite there
[01:45:47] < Netham45> is the ti community dying   yes/no/inconclusive
[01:46:08] < prime38> there should be a poll about what the next poll should be about
[01:46:14] < Netham45> chronomex, can you reset my password?
[01:46:24] < chronomex> Netham45: no, but magnus can
[01:46:27] < Netham45> I don't rembember my password, and it won't take my e-mail for recovery.
[01:46:35] < chronomex> well I have the ability but I'm not authorized
[01:46:38] < chronomex> what's your email?
[01:46:43] < i_c-Y> how about what kind of program do you want to see more of?
[01:46:46] < Netham45> my e-mail's netham45@gmail.com
[01:46:52] < i_c-Y> shells, games, math, etc.
[01:46:58] < chronomex> i_c-Y: I did that last month
[01:47:01] < i_c-Y> oh
[01:47:16] < i_c-Y> what calculator do you plan to purchase next?
[01:47:25] < chronomex> nice
[01:47:44] < tifreak8x> "Who should be launched from a catapault?" with a list of names?
[01:48:03] < chronomex> Netham45: no account with that email
[01:48:09] < Netham45> =/
[01:48:15] < Netham45> that's the issue
[01:48:20] < Netham45> ooh
[01:48:20] < chronomex> but there's one netham45@netham45.org
[01:48:27] < Netham45> ah, ty.
[01:48:34] < tifreak8x> or "What's better, pancakes or waffles?"
[01:48:34] < chronomex> yw
[01:48:40] < tifreak8x> :P
[01:48:50] < chronomex> tifreak8x: hard one!
[01:49:15] < chronomex> naw, i_c-Y, not really interesting enough
[01:49:43] < i_c-Y> hm
[01:49:52] < tifreak8x> make it ticalc related?
[01:49:55] < i_c-Y> fav shell? 
[01:49:58] < Netham45> have you sold your soul?    yes/no/yes, but I am getting it back.
[01:50:04] < chronomex> haha Netham45
[01:50:20] < tifreak8x> ie "What should be updated?" With lists of stuff?
[01:50:29] < Netham45> tifreak8x, like the poll on tifreakware
[01:50:32] < Netham45> >?
[01:50:33] < Netham45> ???
[01:50:57] < chronomex> i_c-Y: fhwhat choices?
[01:51:13] < tifreak8x> lol
[01:51:22] < i_c-Y> mirage, crunchy, noshell
[01:51:25] < Netham45> chronomex, dcs/mirage/rickroll/crunchy/noshell/etc...
[01:51:27] < i_c-Y> ion
[01:51:30] < tifreak8x> yeah... speakin of that... I REALLY need to change it.. been like that for.. at least a year now XD
[01:51:32] < i_c-Y> and rickroll.
[01:52:47] <+Nikky> New poll
[01:52:51] <+Nikky> Should netham shut up?
[01:52:55] <+Nikky> yes/maybe/of course
[01:52:59] <+Nikky> Vote now
[01:53:11] < Netham45> mabye
[01:53:18] < tifreak8x> porn is not an option... it is supposed to ALWAYS be an option..
[01:54:09] < Netham45> I want chineese
[01:54:13] < Netham45> food
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[02:04:16] <+Milyardo> I want icecast to work
[02:04:32] <+Nikky> ?
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[02:10:23] < Hunterkll> today was interesting
[02:10:31] < Hunterkll> I saw swasticas in front of the capitol building
[02:10:31] < Hunterkll> :D
[02:10:33] < i_c-Y> oh?
[02:10:35] < i_c-Y> we dont care
[02:10:38] < i_c-Y> oh
[02:10:42] < i_c-Y> that was the work of Sir_Nazi
[02:10:45] < Hunterkll> Neonazi rally on the capital building
[02:10:50] < Hunterkll> Hal Turner was there
[02:11:00] < Hunterkll> and obscene amounts of swat team
[02:11:01] < i_c-Y> hence why Sir_Nazi is not here
[02:11:04] < Hunterkll> human walls all along the lawns
[02:11:22] < Hunterkll> 4 counter-protesters got arrested
[02:11:23] < Hunterkll> :/
[02:11:34] < i_c-Y> you know what you should have done?
[02:11:39] < i_c-Y> unleashed vanilla ice
[02:11:48] < i_c-Y> neo nazi's love vanilla ice
[02:12:04] < Hunterkll> lawl
[02:12:13] < Hunterkll> Rickroll happened, at least
[02:12:24] < Hunterkll> no one had a copy of vanilla ice work =[
[02:12:40] <+Nikky> ...
[02:13:10] < i_c-Y> my question is 
[02:13:16] < i_c-Y> why were you at a neonazi event?
[02:13:22] < i_c-Y> are you really Nazikll?
[02:13:47] < i_c-Y> or Nazi_F ?
[02:14:04] < i_c-Y> or Nazi Kaiba?
[02:14:10] < Hunterkll> O.o
[02:14:11] < Hunterkll> No
[02:14:18] < Hunterkll> I was with the anti-nazi anarchist protesters
[02:14:18] < Hunterkll> heh
[02:14:32] < i_c-Y> you pinko commie
[02:14:36] < Hunterkll> Indeed
[02:14:49] < Hunterkll> I was in DC, got a call about this, and we went and checked it out
[02:15:07] < Hunterkll> they marched off the capitol field doing the whole nazi salute and screaming seig heil and all that
[02:16:28] < MetalRand> Yay, remote desktop works on Windows Home.
[02:17:03] < Netham45> yea
[02:17:17] < Netham45> hmm
[02:18:54] < tifreak8x> lol... I can't sleep... :(
[02:19:01] < MetalRand> Lunesta?
[02:19:05] < tifreak8x> only got two hours sleep last night, and I cannot sleep now... >.<
[02:19:21] < tifreak8x> I dont take medicine to go to sleep... would drink some booze if I had any...
[02:19:47] <+Merthsoft> melatonin, it's not medicine, it's a naturally occuring neural hormone.
[02:20:52] < tifreak8x> is there a naturally occuring neural thingy that would cause my brain to shut off plzkthx XD
[02:20:58] < tifreak8x> it wont stop thinking >.<
[02:21:05] < tifreak8x> lol
[02:21:41] < MetalRand> I love all this remote desktop stuff... I want my own laptop now, so I can control this and the laptop upstairs from school or something.  
[02:21:46] <+Nikky> Hunterkll is a neonazi?
[02:21:49] <+Nikky> Makes sense
[02:24:02] < Hunterkll> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2135/2425709009_ca79bb2de8.jpg?v=0 <-- NAZI
[02:24:14] < Hunterkll> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3003/2425712541_33a3615ef6.jpg?v=0 <-- COUNTER-PROTESTER
[02:24:26] < Hunterkll> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3287/2426524868_a61aba68dc.jpg?v=0 <-- MOAR NAZI
[02:24:38] < PollTroll> oh wow
[02:24:44] < PollTroll> vista's remote desktop connection is amazing
[02:27:30] < PollTroll> this is awesome... I'm using this from now on
[02:29:30] < MetalRand> Now, I can scare the bejezus out of my parents from down here when they're on the laptop upstairs.  
[02:29:38] < PollTroll> unfortunately the sound is delayed by 2 seconds
[02:29:58] < PollTroll> but video quality is perfect
[02:32:02] < PollTroll> eh... maybe not quite perfect
[02:32:21] < MetalRand> I wonder if sound works in 'rdesktop'...
[02:33:26] < PollTroll> they sure did put a lot of work into this
[02:33:31] < PollTroll> it's like an entire new operating system
[02:34:01] < MetalRand> Maybe Vista would not be so bad to use after all, if I got an upgrade...
[02:34:08] < MetalRand> Or at least try.
[02:34:21] < PollTroll> I should show this stuff to my boss
[02:34:32] < PollTroll> I'd really like it if we started using vista on all of the windows computers
[02:34:46] < PollTroll> (everyone in the department except for our building)
[02:35:15] < MetalRand> Won't they have to upgrade all their comps?
[02:35:19] < PollTroll> Chicken of the VNC works just fine, but it's a network hog
[02:35:23] < PollTroll> we just did
[02:35:26] < PollTroll> but they're still running XP
[02:35:33] < PollTroll> they're all entirely capable of running Vista, though
[02:36:11] < i_c-Y> chicken of the vnc?
[02:36:21] < PollTroll> well, *most* of the computers are new... there are still a couple that probably wouldn't work with Vista
[02:36:22] < i_c-Y> you a macfag?
[02:36:32] < PollTroll> my boss and his boss are...
[02:37:00] < PollTroll> well, let's not use the word fag
[02:37:06] < PollTroll> but they are mac lovers, yes
[02:37:19] < PollTroll> and since I work for them, I am forced to use one
[02:37:23] < Hunterkll> Forced?
[02:37:26] < i_c-Y> doesnt ARD have the ability to use VNC?
[02:37:31] < Hunterkll> Yes
[02:37:35] < Hunterkll> it's in the sharing prefpane
[02:37:42] < Hunterkll> you don't even need ARD installed ?
[02:37:50] < i_c-Y> and doesnt it have a client included?
[02:37:57] < Hunterkll> if it's leopard, yes
[02:38:07] < Hunterkll> http://marxy.org/2007/11/vnc-client-built-right-in-to-leopard.html
[02:38:25] < PollTroll> our servers are xserves (both of them)......
[02:38:29] < Hunterkll> the vnc server and client is built in
[02:38:45] < PollTroll> one is the webserver.... one holds all of the user data for all of the computers in the department (my documents folders, etc...)
[02:39:07] < PollTroll> oh, and then we have a mac-mini database server that is physically about a half mile away from the webserver
[02:39:40] < i_c-Y> havent you people heard of ssh?
[02:39:46] < PollTroll> what?
[02:40:27] < PollTroll> ssh for our database server?
[02:40:32] < i_c-Y> if you're admining servers...
[02:40:39] < i_c-Y> plus RealVNC has a mac port
[02:40:50] < PollTroll> we don't VNC into the servers generally
[02:40:57] < PollTroll> we VNC to the windows computers
[02:41:08] < PollTroll> we afp to the servers
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[02:41:38] < PollTroll> and ssh, if circumstances require
[02:42:49] < i_c-Y> i personally like terminal services on windows
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[02:43:29] < MetalRand> Ooh, yay, encryption even works now...
[02:44:01] < i_c-Y> what the hell are you doing?
[02:44:19] < i_c-Y> and why wasnt i informed of your plans, so i could mock you and give you better ones in a demeaning way?
[02:44:40] < MetalRand> I tricked Windows Home into thinking it's Windows Professional.
[02:44:55] < i_c-Y> golly gee.
[02:45:07] < i_c-Y> welcome to 6+ years ago.
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[02:45:39] < MetalRand> Can't I have even one moment?  
[02:45:45] < MetalRand>  
[02:45:50] < i_c-Y> probably not
[02:45:54] < i_c-Y> do something that impresses me
[02:45:58] < i_c-Y> and you might get one
[02:46:12] < i_c-Y> or maybe present it while im not here.
[02:46:22] < tifreak8x> lol
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[02:46:53] < i_c-Y> dont worry tifreak8x will console you
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[02:47:20] < tifreak8x> <.<
[02:47:22] < tifreak8x> >.>
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[02:47:27] < tifreak8x> lolno
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[02:47:58] < tifreak8x> I think I will try to locate some ZzZz's..
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[02:48:09] < tifreak8x> goodnight all :)
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[02:54:46] < MetalRand> slocate ZzZz
[02:56:11] < MetalRand> Can I make the computer I'm connected to in Remote Desktop shut down or reboot?  I don't see it on the Start Menu; it just says "Disconnect."
[02:58:21] < chronomex> probably not
[02:58:44] <+patz2009> send it some command prompt commands
[02:58:50] <+patz2009> it'll bluescreen eventually
[02:58:54] < chronomex> send it a ping of death
[02:59:39] < i_c-Y> you can.
[03:00:28] < i_c-Y> we call it the shutdown program from the win2k resource kit
[03:00:42] < i_c-Y> or using task manager.
[03:01:41] < i_c-Y> seems like i can get it on kerm's machine under "windows security" too. 
[03:03:01] < i_c-Y> you dumbass.
[03:03:04] < i_c-Y> hm
[03:03:06] < i_c-Y> that was bad.
[03:03:17] < i_c-Y> i need to make the initial presentation more insulting....
[03:04:28] < i_c-Y> CRY FOOLS! CRY!
[03:04:37] < i_c-Y> actually
[03:05:58] < i_c-Y> those are all bad suggestions for MetalRand. The MetalRand way is to make a php script to do system("shutdown -t 00 /l /t:00 "DIE FOO" /y /c");
[03:06:00] < i_c-Y> or something
[03:09:59] < chronomex> but only cricket would put it on his website 
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[03:18:00] < i_c-Y> lol
[03:18:26] < i_c-Y> and then Andy_J would be all like !k i_c-Y like when we used to do
[03:18:29] < i_c-Y> DCC SEND 2309483209480932842
[03:18:35] < i_c-Y> or something.
[03:18:41] < MetalRand> Remote Desktop sound really is laggy..
[03:18:52] < i_c-Y> use moar compression.
[03:18:54] < MetalRand> It's about by half- to a second on this comp.
[03:18:57] < i_c-Y> oh
[03:18:59] < i_c-Y> the sound sucks.
[03:19:29] < i_c-Y> you shouldnt be doing anything related do sound with remote desktop
[03:19:32] < i_c-Y> esp listening to it
[03:19:35] < i_c-Y> mpd ftw
[03:19:57] < MetalRand> In Linux RD, it is perfect, though.
[03:21:07] < MetalRand> Very little latency.
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[03:25:10] < i_c-Y> youredoingitwrongthen
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[03:26:28] < btrettel> Hey tifreak.
[03:26:39] <+patz2009> Absent.
[03:26:48] < btrettel> That's too bad.
[03:27:16] < btrettel> Well, I'll write something that he might read.
[03:27:40] < btrettel> I was reading that you have insomnia.  I used to have pretty severe insomnia myself
[03:27:53] < btrettel> They had me on meds for like a month.  I stopped taking them.
[03:28:03] < btrettel> (I had insomnia for a year+ before this)
[03:28:20] < btrettel> It was at that point that I realized I don't care any longer.  I haven't had bad insomnia since.
[03:28:36] < btrettel> Just stop caring about how much sleep you get.  If you have insomnia you're likely on the short side of the bell curve.
[03:28:42] < btrettel> So you don't need much anyway.
[03:28:56] < btrettel> Stay up doing relaxing things until you get sleepy.  Then go to sleep.
[03:29:00] < btrettel> No meds needed.
[03:29:29] < MetalRand> Listen to Hillary.
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[03:29:39] < btrettel> That works too.
[03:30:19] < i_c-Y> hm
[03:30:28] < i_c-Y> i wanted flood protection to kick in
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[03:31:45] < btrettel> Well, I don't type fast enough for flood protection to kick in.
[03:35:20] < i_c-Y> are you sure?
[03:35:24] < MetalRand> Strangly enough, after compiling Firefox, I've been using it for the last few days, and it's not used very much memory, and has been reasonably fast...
[03:35:32] < i_c-Y> it might have kicked in but the bots are still lagging.
[03:35:47] < btrettel> Whatever you say.  I haven't been around here long enough to know.
[03:35:48] < i_c-Y> MetalRand: its a sign of the impending apocalypse.
[03:36:16] < MetalRand> Even scarier, Flash hasn't been causing very many problems.
[03:36:16] < i_c-Y> i just saw someone with a quit message that GetTickCount was maximized.
[03:36:33] < MetalRand> It still crashes every once and a while, though.
[03:38:52]  * MetalRand goes and looks for a way to hide programs from the Add/Remove Programs control panel.
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[04:03:40] < prime38> http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm173/temporary1_bucket/big-mac-class.jpg
[04:03:43] < prime38> dear god
[04:03:46] < prime38> so many ifags
[04:06:04] < Commando1> oh my god
[04:06:12] < Commando1> the person with pen and paper is the smartest guy there lol
[04:06:25] < Commando1> he dont need no shit mac :D
[04:06:43]  * Netham45 wonders why chronomex is  in #tcda
[04:07:17] < PollTroll> in that picture there is one guy in the front row on the right with a non-mac
[04:07:25] < PollTroll> which was the original point of the picture
[04:08:05] < PollTroll> he was the smart one
[04:08:20] < prime38> tcda is the ti-calc drama alliance
[04:09:04] < Commando1> id bring a windows laptop
[04:09:06] < Commando1> and piss on the mac pcs :D
[04:09:21] < PollTroll> you'd piss on them?
[04:09:22] < PollTroll> what?
[04:09:47] < Netham45> oh
[04:09:48] < Netham45> hell
[04:09:51] < Netham45> I didn't realize tcda was rea
[04:09:53] < Netham45> real
[04:10:08] < Commando1> what?
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[04:11:56] <+Tari_> hehe
[04:12:01] <+Tari_> I lieks meet the scout
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[04:53:20] <+Nikky> omnimaga sucks
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[05:02:06] < prime38> you are a son on a bitch chronomex
[05:02:12] < chronomex> :D
[05:02:21] < i_c-Y> oh?
[05:02:30] < i_c-Y> what evils did chronomex perpetrate now?
[05:02:42] < chronomex> I created a channel, saw a couple people join, deopped everyone, and left
[05:02:59] < prime38> that channel we my brainchild
[05:03:00] < chronomex> (I gave a couple of ops in between somewhere)
[05:03:01] < i_c-Y> what channel is this?
[05:03:06] < chronomex> #tcda
[05:03:10] < chronomex> ticalc drama assoc
[05:03:21] < prime38> cause of all the late drama with cricket
[05:03:38] < prime38> http://qdb.us/142920
[05:04:21] < chronomex> lol
[05:08:37] <+Nikky> ew
[05:11:36] <+Nikky> Hi Duncan!
[05:13:19] < chronomex> hi Nikky!
[05:14:36] <+Nikky> Are you a dinosaur?
[05:15:03] < chronomex> it just so happens that I am not.
[05:16:18] <+Nikky> oh
[05:16:21] <+Nikky> :(
[05:16:30] <+Nikky> I thought you were.
[05:17:21] < chronomex> I'm sorry.
[05:18:04] <+Nikky> I was going to capture you.
[05:25:41] < PollTroll> I wonder if the girl from underworld is any good looking in real life
[05:25:47]  * i_c-Y watches as Nikky puts away his pokeballs and jurrasic park hat
[05:26:00] <+Nikky> :(
[05:26:05] <+Nikky> I'll admit it
[05:26:09] <+Nikky> I'm a dinosaur furry
[05:26:23] <+Nikky> I think I'm really a dinosaur trapped in a human body
[05:26:39] <+Nikky> and as such I'm smarter, better, and generally more awesome then all of you
[05:26:41] < PollTroll> unfortunately google safe-search hasn't been very reliable lately, so I can't use that...
[05:27:49] < i_c-Y> omg omg omg 420 lol lets smoke weed it explains nikky's actions
[05:28:03] <+Nikky> It's still the 19th here
[05:28:24] < i_c-Y> never too early to celebrate
[05:28:40] <+Nikky> Drugs are bad
[05:28:45] < PollTroll> oh gross, old
[05:28:56] < PollTroll> imdb says she's 35
[05:29:02] <+Nikky> So?
[05:29:07] <+Nikky> Tina Fey is that old
[05:29:16] < PollTroll> tina fey is ugly
[05:29:26] <+Nikky> is not
[05:29:31] <+Nikky> I have a huge crush on her
[05:29:42] < PollTroll> in underworld this girl looked 23
[05:29:44] <+Nikky> perhaps even a bigger crush than I do on Chris Matthews
[05:30:07] < i_c-Y> who is 35?
[05:30:18] <+Nikky> me
[05:30:23] < PollTroll> Selene from underworld
[05:30:29] < PollTroll> Kate Beckinsale
[05:30:33] < PollTroll> 34
[05:31:14] <+Nikky> Not all women that age are lame
[05:31:27] <+Nikky> Like Italian women don't begin to become attractive until at least 35
[05:31:50] < PollTroll> wow... a chick won a car race
[05:32:02] < i_c-Y> monica belluuci started to get more attention when she was what, 40?
[05:32:24] < i_c-Y> plus with plastic surgery and all that other crap
[05:32:36] < i_c-Y> bitches look like a ton of years younger.
[05:33:02] < PollTroll> did everyone see lebron's dunk?
[05:33:41] < PollTroll> http://youtube.com/watch?v=CPT7QXv3CW4
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[05:34:36] < PollTroll> with a higher resolution and better quality it's really entertaining to look at the faces of the crowd
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[06:43:16] < prime38> 420 yay
[06:52:06] < DarkAuron> and I'm high, respectively.
[06:52:07] < tr1p1ea> nice alley
[06:52:32] < DarkAuron> after doing the dark brotherhood quests in oblivion,
[06:52:36] < DarkAuron> and finishing that epic storyline
[06:52:44] < DarkAuron> I need a break from it; so I'm playing Diablo 2 :P
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[08:07:42] <+Spengo> zzzzz
[08:07:49]  * Spengo falls asleep in his chair
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[08:09:23] <+Spengo> http://www.gametrailers.com/player/33023.html
[08:09:24] <+Spengo> lmao
[08:10:17] <+Spengo> scout tf2 trailer
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[08:27:52] <+nicolas> so, I need an american
[08:28:44] <+nicolas> anyone here able to help me ?
[08:33:10] <+Spengo> WTF PROTOSS MOTHERSHIP CAN MAKE BLACK HOLES
[08:33:11] <+Spengo> O_O
[08:33:18] <+Spengo> nicolas, what you need
[08:34:26] <+Spengo> want... starcraft 2... :o~~
[08:35:37] <+nicolas> well
[08:35:48] <+nicolas> I have an american cell phone number ...
[08:35:55] <+nicolas> 831...
[08:36:04] <+nicolas> how do I call that from her italy?
[08:36:13] <+nicolas> 001 831 xxxxxx ?
[08:41:35] <+Spengo> wha?
[08:41:59] <+Spengo> whatever the normal long distance thing you do before a phone number in italy
[08:42:04] <+Spengo> that's an italy question, not us
[08:42:48] <+Spengo> http://www.gametrailers.com/player/31707.html I came!
[08:45:36] <+nicolas> well, in france number start with a 0 ... and on international calls TO france you have to drop it....
[08:46:29] <+nicolas> was just wondering if there were any modifications needed.. guess not :P
[08:47:58] <+Spengo> not that I know of
[08:48:07] <+Spengo> I live here, I don't call here from somewhere else, lol
[08:48:36] <+Spengo> have you tried just calling the number yet?
[08:49:35] < DarkAuron> Spengo: you are LATE
[08:49:49] < DarkAuron> about the black holes
[08:49:59] < DarkAuron> I think they actually took that ability out
[08:50:08] <+Spengo> oh
[08:50:12] <+Spengo> that would be so cool though
[08:50:21] <+Spengo> anyways, I was just watching all the vids
[08:50:32] <+Spengo> only one I watched before was the trailer
[08:51:13] < DarkAuron> lol
[08:52:23] <@E-J> nicolas: i think it's european thing that every number starts with a 0 and you have to drop it, like i have 050 xxx xxxx and international version of it is +35850 xxx xxxx
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[10:12:46] < _krisk_> bluh
[10:18:18] <@E-J> redh
[10:22:12] <+Spengo> hay guise guess what
[10:22:19] <+Spengo> I'M NAKED AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
[10:22:23] < _krisk_> cool
[10:22:24] < _krisk_> dance
[10:22:27]  * Spengo dances
[10:23:51]  * Spengo shakes so his junk slaps against his legs
[10:25:46] < _krisk_> so me and friends are planning a vacation
[10:25:51]  * Spengo gets dressed and accidentally puts his shirt on inside out the first time
[10:28:32] <+Spengo> _krisk_, watch out for spooky serial killers
[10:28:48] < _krisk_> nah
[10:28:55] <+Spengo> that always happens when you go on a vacation with friends, somebody gets killed and a huge mystery starts
[10:28:58] <+Spengo> whodunnit!?
[10:29:14] < _krisk_> thing is they want to do only silly things like rafting and watersports and climbing mountains and stuff
[10:29:48] <+Spengo> well, *someone* has to die
[10:29:54] <+Spengo> just hope you get to be the main character
[10:29:58] < _krisk_> i could push someone off a cliff
[10:29:58] <+Spengo> they always get hax
[10:30:03] <+Spengo> that would be awesome
[10:30:05] <+Spengo> DO IT FAGGOT
[10:30:21] < _krisk_> i'd rather go to a cool city or something
[10:30:29] <+Spengo> umwut?
[10:30:45] < _krisk_> ?
[10:30:50] <+Spengo> well, don't go to seattle then
[10:30:55] < _krisk_> im from europe
[10:31:07] <+Spengo> unless you feel like paying $9 for a subway sandwich
[10:31:30] < _krisk_> we're probably going to greece or italy or something
[10:31:44] < _krisk_> but i dont think any european cities are interessting
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[10:31:47] <@efneTI86> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing?
[10:31:50] <+Spengo> what languages do you know?
[10:31:58] < _krisk_> i mean i dont care about cultural stuff like colloseums or whatever
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[10:32:14] < _krisk_> english and dutch and i guess i can follow a conversation in french but not speak it myself
[10:32:30] <+Spengo> I wanna go to the democratic republic of congo
[10:32:32] <+Spengo> FOR THE LULZ
[10:32:33] < _krisk_> i think hangout in some american cities would be much cooler
[10:32:42] <+Spengo> Portland is cool, you should come here
[10:32:56] < _krisk_> myeah
[10:33:03] < _krisk_> you wanna pay for the tickets?
[10:33:09] <+Spengo> lol
[10:33:18] <+Spengo> quite a bit farther than greece, eh?
[10:33:24] < _krisk_> aye
[10:33:30] < _krisk_> but europe sucks
[10:33:36] <+Spengo> yeah pretty much
[10:33:47] <+Spengo> shitty employment rates, shitty gun laws
[10:34:04] < _krisk_> although i think im coming to the conclusion that anything sucks without the laid back stoner peoples from highschool to hang out with
[10:34:04] <+Spengo> and heaven help you if you live in england
[10:34:46] < _krisk_> current friends only want to rent dvds (which really is all you can do in this pos city so i dont blame them, but the stoner gang could always just hang out somewhere and have fun)
[10:34:51] <@E-J> Spengo: gun laws are ok here :)
[10:34:55] <+Spengo> yeah I know :)
[10:35:00] <+Spengo> but the rest of europe sucks
[10:35:27] < _krisk_> cant think of any european cities that supposedly have lots of metal/goth chicks either
[10:35:38] <@E-J> _krisk_: come to finland
[10:35:40] <+Spengo> transylvania?
[10:35:48] <+Spengo> lulz
[10:35:55] < _krisk_> yeah im thinking finland or sweden
[10:36:07] < _krisk_> what kind of weather is it over there during july?
[10:36:12] <+Spengo> netherlands are the place to be in europe
[10:36:14] <@E-J> +20
[10:36:20] < _krisk_> i live in the netherlands
[10:36:24] <@E-J> sunny
[10:36:26] <+Spengo> oh, whar?
[10:36:41] < _krisk_> theres fuck all to do if you dont have cool friends who can just sit somewhere and have fun with
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[10:36:53] <@efneTI86> [Leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
[10:36:53] < _krisk_> almere, half an hour drive from amsterdam
[10:37:21] < Leofox> lo krisk
[10:37:25] < _krisk_> lo leo
[10:37:38] < _krisk_> Spengo why do you think netherlands is awesome
[10:37:44] < _krisk_> do you know something that I dont?
[10:37:50] < Leofox> the netherlands are awesome
[10:37:59] < Leofox> I love it here
[10:38:10] < _krisk_> i wouldnt want to live anywhere else but goddamn is it boring
[10:38:14] < Leofox> but that's probably because I don't live in Almere
[10:38:16] <+Spengo> everywhere in that area seems to be cool, sweden, finland, etc.
[10:38:22] < Leofox> lol finland
[10:38:23] < _krisk_> myeah ok
[10:38:25] <+Spengo> most of 'em anyways
[10:38:43] < Leofox> I hope you don't think holland is in scandinavia
[10:38:48] < _krisk_> Leofox i think i lack friends who actualyl want to do things other than watch movies (which = sitting somewhere with your mouth shut)
[10:38:53] <+Spengo> why would I think that?
[10:39:09] < Leofox> because you mention sweden and finland
[10:39:11] < _krisk_> and yeha almere sucks ass but i dont have anyone to go to amsterdam with
[10:39:17] <@E-J> Leofox: well, i hope you don't think polar bears lives here :)
[10:39:39] < _krisk_> no alt chicks for friends -_-
[10:40:02] < Leofox> i barely have any girls i hang out with
[10:40:09] < _krisk_> guys would be fine too
[10:40:23] < Leofox> number of single girls I regularly see = 0
[10:40:24] < _krisk_> you know the most fun ive had was during highschool where we'd just head over the the stoner hangout place and chill out
[10:40:32] < _krisk_> hell even going to the supermarket was fun
[10:40:36] < Leofox> stupid technics university
[10:40:55] <@E-J> Leofox: you have chosen the wrong university :)
[10:40:56] < _krisk_> now its everybody working or studying 24/7 and they only want to rent dvds or go to the movies
[10:41:15] < _krisk_> once a week
[10:41:16] < Leofox> E-J: apparently we have 40% girls still
[10:41:43] < _krisk_> im trying to figure out how to get back to a situation where i can just pick a random day and chill somewhere
[10:41:46] < Leofox> but I think they only go their psychology courses and then go back to germany, because I never see them
[10:42:11] < Leofox> except for during the day when I'm walking past the PSY building
[10:42:15] <+Spengo> hay guise
[10:42:20] < _krisk_> hell we had fun just sitting on the curb at the trainstation somewhere talking about random stuff
[10:42:24] < _krisk_> i miss that : (
[10:42:28] <+Spengo> I'M FRIGGIN SLEEPY
[10:42:34]  * Spengo goes to sleep
[10:50:46] <@E-J> _krisk_: and of course, very much light during july. This time of year length of day is 15 hours here in south, in july it's ~18 hours long here and on lapland whole summer sun is up 24h
[10:51:06] < _krisk_> oh yeah cool
[10:51:11] < _krisk_> whats the citylife like?
[10:51:22] < _krisk_> like stuff to do if youre me and on vacation there
[10:52:02] < _krisk_> meeting a finnish metal chick would be ideal :P
[10:52:39] <@E-J> on the end of june, we have this http://www.tuska-festival.fi/index_eng.html on helsinki
[10:53:06] <@E-J> some "minor" bands there, like slayer
[10:53:17] < _krisk_> cool
[10:53:21] <@E-J> and nightwish concert before that
[10:53:31] < _krisk_> i suppose most of those bands also come here though
[10:53:41] < _krisk_> im more itnerested in the crowds/hangouts than specific bandsanyway
[10:54:08] < _krisk_> 4 random chicks from the local town with instruments works just as well for me as dimmu borgir
[10:54:22] < _krisk_> well better considering gender but you know..
[10:54:31] < _krisk_> music wise
[10:54:36] <@E-J> heh
[10:56:49] < _krisk_> i suppose finland also nice scenery
[10:59:20] < _krisk_> what area is best?
[10:59:23] < _krisk_> just helsinki?
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[11:00:56] <@E-J> helsinki has good scenery, tampere has good, jyväskylä has good (although black metal bands were banned there few years ago because of barathrum incident), oulu is good
[11:01:11] < _krisk_> lolblackmetal
[11:01:15] < _krisk_> ok
[11:01:19] < _krisk_> whereabouts are you located?
[11:01:29] <@E-J> helsinki has maybe most gigs, but other places have too
[11:01:58] <@E-J> i'm located in 3rd biggest city espoo, which is neighbour of helsinki
[11:02:05] < _krisk_> cool
[11:02:30] < _krisk_> pretty much everybody speaks english as well right?
[11:02:42] <@E-J> on friday i was on gig of blaze bayley, and today some of my friends are going to gig of dark tranquility
[11:03:06] <@E-J> most people speaks, older people not so well mostly
[11:03:14] < _krisk_> well i dont really require big gigs every night or something but being able to go out at night and just chill somewhere is nice
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[11:03:23] < _krisk_> hehe ok older people are boring anyway :P
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[11:04:57] <@E-J> http://www.metaltravelguide.com/mtg/index.php?option=com_mtree&task=listcats&cat_id=730&Itemid=56 there are listed metal (music) bars in finland
[11:05:34] < _krisk_> yeah stuff like that
[11:05:39] < _krisk_> i keep forgetting that site
[11:06:00] < _krisk_> even has a listing for the only (supposedly) interesting hangout in this city though i havent seen any interesting crowd there in ages
[11:06:05] < _krisk_> ctrl+d'd
[11:06:28] <@E-J> heh
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[11:46:20] < _krisk_> wtf
[11:47:17] < _krisk_> Finland - Espoo: Aurinko Huvilat - 685 euro per appartmentthingybungalow, i click and it changes to 2600 euro
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[11:52:30] <@E-J> _krisk_: which page, i don't see anything like that on aurinkohuvilat.fi
[11:54:56] < _krisk_> well on stupid dutch travelagency sites
[11:55:03] < _krisk_> but thats per week
[11:55:15] < _krisk_> *on aurinkohuvilat.fi is per week
[11:58:04] < Leofox> stupid vista firewall blocking ping by default
[11:58:11] < _krisk_> lulz
[11:58:23] < Leofox> i had to go through all sorts of advanced custom settings to turn it back on
[11:59:37] < _krisk_> what's the difference between a hostel and a hotel? other than that a hostel has hot eastern european chicks who seduce you and get you kidnapped for some torturing agency thing
[12:00:02] < Leofox> wtf
[12:00:26] < _krisk_> didn't watch that movie?
[12:01:48] <@E-J> _krisk_: hostel should be little cheaper
[12:02:51] < _krisk_> hmm i wonder if i can get cheap tickets to miami las vegas and new york
[12:03:10] < _krisk_> for some reason america seems much cooler
[12:03:48] <@E-J> maybe because of cultural differenties
[12:04:08] < _krisk_> i dont know, europe seems mostly for nature things to me
[12:05:03] < _krisk_> i suppose the cities can be fun but in the us they all speak 'english' which makes it more fun i guess
[12:08:22] < _krisk_> meh i dont know any more
[12:08:34] < _krisk_> im probably no fun regardless of the place we go to
[12:08:42] <@E-J> maybe so, there people can't make fun of every tourist when they are present because they know that tourists know their language :)
[12:08:49] < _krisk_> hehe
[12:09:08] < _krisk_> europe cities just seem more boring
[12:09:26] < _krisk_> unless youre into sitting somewhere at a table on the street with a beer all night
[12:09:48] < _krisk_> then again cant even have fun here so maybe its a waste of money
[12:10:16] < _krisk_> having fun here would do just fine and be a lot cheaper
[12:11:13] <@E-J> well, traveling to other places could make you love more your own country
[12:11:44] <@E-J> like some of my friends travelled to india and now they don't complain about local train system
[12:11:53] <@E-J> local = finnish
[12:12:06] < _krisk_> having people who actually want to hang out here would probably do the same thing
[12:12:59] < _krisk_> the height of the weekend here is 1 or 2 others finally finding time to go play biljarts somewhere and constantly make fun of how crappy other people play or how terribly funny it is that someone with obesity is standing there
[12:13:02] < _krisk_> oh what fun
[12:13:15] <@E-J> :)
[12:13:23] < Leofox> pool is fun
[12:13:27] < _krisk_> yes
[12:13:33] < _krisk_> it is
[12:13:45] < Leofox> I mean as in billiards
[12:13:47] < _krisk_> yeah
[12:14:10] < _krisk_> but with the right people even sitting on the curb at a train station is fun
[12:14:26] <@E-J> i'm not very outgoing person, these days the reason to go to pub is because i work there as a bouncer
[12:14:27] < Leofox> I found my laptop's MAC adres has been stolen bij some foreigner named Murat
[12:14:54] < Leofox> which is kind of retarded of him, because now I can put my bandwidth on his account
[12:15:10] < _krisk_> i dont know if im outgoing but at least i had fun sitting on a curb somewhere with a bunch of stoners/hippiechicks in highschool every now and then
[12:15:39] < _krisk_> a lot more fun than waiting weeks for people to take time away from studying and work to go to biliarts center somewhere and hear their whining about school and work
[12:16:43] < _krisk_> of course when i say i haven othing to do they tell me lolgo get a job lol youll meet people and then i have to hear about how tiring their job is how much it sucks and so on
[12:16:47] <@E-J> some of my friends goes bar to just drink beer and talk shit about things and some go bowling
[12:16:58] < _krisk_> talking shit is fine
[12:17:12] < _krisk_> just drinking is fine though im not gonna do alcohol any more
[12:17:34] < Leofox> we often go to the local disco place thing and dance like a retard and not talk to girls at all
[12:17:54] <@E-J> i have friends who do that too
[12:18:27] < _krisk_> but not when the height of the funny of the night is those morons laughing at some fat girl or say shit about hot girls with no respect whatsoever
[12:18:41] <@E-J> i don't want to pay 10 euros to go to bar and drink expensive limonade (i'm "teetotaller")
[12:19:38] <@E-J> on friday, limonade was 3 euros (mostly it's 2 to 2.5 euros here) and beer 5 euros
[12:19:41] < _krisk_> i wish i was 16 again
[12:19:58] < Leofox> E-J: In some clubs the limonade is more expensive than beer
[12:20:08] < Leofox> 2 euros for cola, 1 for beer
[12:20:12] < _krisk_> the guys ih angt out with now might think those stoners were losers but at least they had a positive attitude and could have fun about anything
[12:21:22] < _krisk_> with them there were things happening like some random hippie chick giving everybody hug out of nowhere or starting to dance or finding a spider on someone's hat naming it harry and having fun about it until l4 am
[12:21:40] <@E-J> Leofox: somehow glad that not here :) although sometimes alcoholic drinks are cheaper on happy hour than limonade
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[12:29:51] < Leofox> why do green and yellow look the same on my printer?
[12:30:05] < Leofox> maybe i'm out of cyane
[12:30:13] < _krisk_> colour scheme? drivers? ink problem?
[12:31:09] < Leofox> i printed two test pages, blue and magenta are solid colours, red is an obvious mixture with something missing, yellow and green look the same and cyane is barely visible
[12:31:26] < _krisk_> hmm
[12:32:16] <@E-J> Leofox: colour blindness?-)
[12:32:41] < _krisk_> shouldnt have eaten those mushrooms maybe
[12:32:44] < Leofox> i'm only red/green colourblind
[12:33:06] < tr1p1ea> i thought you could *only* be red/green colour blind?
[12:33:19] < Leofox> my printer is supposed to have 5 colours
[12:33:27] < _krisk_> yeah you cant be blind in other colours
[12:33:27] < Leofox> well and black obviously
[12:33:53] < tr1p1ea> sounds like your ink has run out
[12:34:06] < tr1p1ea> possibly the cyan
[12:34:34] < Leofox> printing a test page now
[12:34:41] < Leofox> there's a red flashing light on my printer
[12:35:16] < tr1p1ea> most likely an error telling you that one of your ink levels is low
[12:36:11] < Leofox> well i have a spare one
[12:36:53] < Leofox> yep, it means ink low
[12:37:15] < Leofox> but the blue and magenta are still working great
[12:37:17] < tr1p1ea> and it appears that you can be blue/yellow colour blind as well
[12:37:25] < Leofox> so i kind of find it a waste
[12:37:47] < tr1p1ea> you could look into those ink refill kits
[12:37:56] < _krisk_> my pritner wont even do anything if any of the colours are remotely low on ink
[12:38:22] < _krisk_> well my dad's printer, im principally opposed to printing
[12:39:36] < Leofox> this was my grandmother's printer
[12:39:42] < Leofox> she gave it to me because she got a new one
[12:40:03] < _krisk_> cool
[12:40:07] < Leofox> http://www.neilslade.com/gifs/TestPrint6Color.jpg printing this one
[12:40:26] < Leofox> it's a great printer, does photos and all
[12:40:30] < _krisk_> cool
[12:40:43] < Leofox> cartridges are expensive but i got good deals from 123inkt
[12:42:35] < Leofox> this is odd, the test page prints perfectly fine
[13:17:08] < _krisk_> bleh
[13:17:57] < _krisk_> was supposed to recieve stuff to put in a presentation by last friday but of course nobody has sent anything yet
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[14:16:23] < _krisk_> well i smsed someone if she's up for some pool or something relaxed like that
[14:30:47] < i_c-Y> is she a HOT GOTH ALT CHICK?
[14:32:14] < _krisk_> i dont know any like that : (
[14:32:56] < _krisk_> just a very cute girl from back in the highschool days
[14:33:32] < _krisk_> who was the nicest to me
[14:33:36] < _krisk_> and who might now this cute alt girl i like
[14:42:27] < _krisk_> so
[14:53:11] <+ports> lol
[14:53:14] <+ports> got a photo?
[14:56:31] < _krisk_> yes
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[14:56:38] < _krisk_> wait, of who
[14:57:08] < i_c-Y> of the chick, nobody wants to look at you :P
[14:57:24] < _krisk_> well duh but which one
[14:57:35] < _krisk_> i dont have of the alt chick : (
[14:58:09] < _krisk_> im trying to get a connection to her but when i go to the store she works she isnt there and nobody i know knows her directly except maybe this girl
[14:59:54] < i_c-Y> you are a stalking creep
[15:00:04] <+ports> lol
[15:00:08] <+ports> photo or she doesnt exist
[15:00:18] < _krisk_> nah im not
[15:00:32] < _krisk_> just trying to find a way to meet her
[15:02:30] < _krisk_> the girl i like used to go to the same highschool where i saw her a couple of times with some of those people i know but never actually met her and recently i saw her in the bus to my college a couple of times and once at thegrocery store here where according to me friend she works all the time
[15:02:56] < _krisk_> so ive been trying to meet her at that grocery store but havent run into her yet to ask her out
[15:02:59] < _krisk_> which is BLEH
[15:03:32] < i_c-Y> so you are stalking her essentially...
[15:05:11] < _krisk_> no im just looking to bump into her again at two locations when i happen to be there
[15:06:02] < _krisk_> like the grocery store is next to me busstop so when i come back from school i can just look outside from the bus and see if she's there
[15:06:23] < i_c-Y> thats called stalking.
[15:07:30] < _krisk_> the common definition of stalking infers harassment and such which doesnt apply here
[15:07:47] < _krisk_> 'pursue'
[15:09:19] < i_c-Y> http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=stalk <- you fit the definition
[15:09:26] < i_c-Y> and you following anyone is harassment
[15:09:32] < _krisk_> stalking is when i search hyves with various possible keywords like the name of the grocery store and browse through people's networks who might know her
[15:09:51] < _krisk_> stalk, straw, stubble (material consisting of seed coverings and small pieces of stem or leaves that have been separated from the seeds)
[15:09:54] < _krisk_> oh yeah ok that applies sorry
[15:11:02] < _krisk_> and i cant really avoid my bus from driving past there
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[15:12:15] < btrettel> Has anyone here used these assemblers before? http://shop-pdp.kent.edu/ashtml/asxxxx.htm
[15:12:34] < btrettel> I'm not programming z80 (rather, 8085) and someone suggested it to me.
[15:12:59] < btrettel> They have a z80 version and since 8085 and z80 are similar, I'm wondering if they're good in general.
[15:13:36] < i_c-Y> why not use TASM or something like everyone else
[15:13:45] < btrettel> TASM didn't run in DOSBox.
[15:14:07] < btrettel> And I'd rather not mess with DOS, but it's an option I guess.
[15:15:02] < _krisk_> yay i said i'd be fun to see her somewhere this week and she said that would be nice and shell let me know when shell be free
[15:15:22] < _krisk_> progress
[15:15:32] < i_c-Y> stalker.
[15:15:44] < _krisk_> wrong girl :P
[15:15:45] < i_c-Y> the stalker has initiated contact with his victim
[15:15:48] < i_c-Y> oh.
[15:15:49] < _krisk_> i wish
[15:16:39] < _krisk_> i have initiated contact with someone i like to meet just for meeting that someone who i also just realised might be able to ask along that victim
[15:17:01] < _krisk_> to a highschool gang reunion type thin
[15:17:11] < i_c-Y> lolibaiting eh?
[15:17:22] < _krisk_> she's 2 years older than me
[15:17:46] < i_c-Y> so? that makes her 10
[15:17:52] < _krisk_> 22 actually
[15:19:23] < i_c-Y> riiiiiiight.
[15:19:49] < _krisk_> what? its more likely that im bright enough to be in colelge by the age of 8?
[15:21:31] < _krisk_> not to mention involved with this communtiy for 6 years so since i was 2? :P
[15:21:44] < _krisk_> 'invovled'
[15:21:46] < i_c-Y> hm.
[15:21:51] < i_c-Y> stalker.
[15:22:10] < i_c-Y> where the hell is patz2009?
[15:23:50] < _krisk_> hehe
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[15:42:22] <@E-J> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2202/2419557275_72218efd3c_o.jpg
[15:42:46] < _krisk_> : )
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[15:59:14] < Netham45> xD
[16:00:26] < Peter_W> o.O
[16:01:10] < Netham45> Peter_W,  http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2202/2419557275_72218efd3c_o.jpg
[16:04:09] < Peter_W> O_O
[16:04:26] < Netham45> damnit
[16:04:36] < Netham45> my mormon friend keeps stashing bibles in my backpack.
[16:04:45] < Netham45> when will he realize I don't want to convert?!
[16:04:59] < Netham45> this time, I'm not giving it back...
[16:08:39] < Peter_W> maybe that's the goal?
[16:09:00] < Peter_W> and then they'll think, "success!"
[16:16:31] < _krisk_> so you're getting free toilet paper?
[16:17:29] < _krisk_> I'd put a pack of condoms in his backpack to get back it him
[16:17:49] < Leofox> it's a compliment to his beliefs if you burn his bibles
[16:18:04] < Leofox> that way you make sure it's not going to get dirty if you're not reading it anyway
[16:18:28] < _krisk_> oh yeah
[16:18:33] < _krisk_> anybody watch dharma & greg?
[16:18:59] <@E-J> i haven't watch it for ages
[16:22:10] < Leofox> it's OK
[16:22:19] < _krisk_> i like it
[16:22:26] < _krisk_> oh yeah and new house episodes soon
[16:22:29] < Leofox> but I dislike watching extremist hippie trash on tv
[16:22:34] < Leofox> they remind me of my stepmother
[16:22:38] < _krisk_> lulz
[16:22:58] < _krisk_> but they satirically portry it as silly and stuff all the time
[16:23:30] < Leofox> no, those hippies are really like that
[16:23:38] < _krisk_> lol some
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[16:23:57] < _krisk_> but they really make fun of that with the show a lot
[16:24:24] < Leofox> some of them won't even eat cooked food anymore
[16:24:44] < _krisk_> also, dahrma's scary alt chick girlfriend :o
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[16:50:04] < Peter_W> um, wow
[16:50:24] < Peter_W> "<_krisk_> oh yeah and new house episodes soon"   --- I read that as "oh yeah and my new house explodes soon"
[16:50:51] < _krisk_> :o
[16:58:14] <+Ben_O> Hey peep's
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[17:24:41] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] I need an infoline
[17:24:57] < Sir_Lewk> I've decided I'm going to register a .su domain name
[17:30:56] <+Tari> commie
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[17:41:39] < likeWOAH> you're Sir_Nazi, not Sir_Stalin, Sir_Lewk .
[17:41:43] < likeWOAH> you should be registering a .de
[17:43:58] < Sir_Lewk> .su is way cooler
[17:48:03] < likeWOAH> ah, you're invading the soviet union
[17:48:06] < likeWOAH> very well, sir_nazi
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[17:56:53] <+Merthsoft> http://l2u.iguana.be/fosdem/IMG_0789.JPG
[17:59:40] < _krisk_> hehe
[17:59:55] <@E-J> heh
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[18:03:25] <+tifreak> lol
[18:03:30] < Netham45> haha
[18:04:01] <+Nikky> whores
[18:04:07] < Netham45> thanks!
[18:04:59] <+tifreak> :(
[18:05:10]  * tifreak assimilates Nikky into his collective
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[18:12:36] < Netham45> he whored you, nikky.
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[18:16:14] <+Nikky> Hi prime38 :)
[18:16:52] < prime38> hi Nikky
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[18:20:22] < prime38> hi MetalRand :)
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[18:21:24] <@efneTI86> [Tyler2] I no longer speak fluent dialup.
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[18:23:29] <+tifreak> Tyler2 learned faster internets, eh? 
[18:23:32] <+tifreak> :P
[18:26:42] <+DSP_Lord> now you need to nub
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[18:27:06] <+tifreak> I know, DSP_Loser
[18:27:11] <+tifreak> :)
[18:29:43] <+DSP_Lord> :P
[18:31:08] <+tifreak> what is dsp doing today, besides being lazy?
[18:31:24] <+DSP_Lord> rock band
[18:31:29] <+DSP_Lord> and then more halo
[18:31:37] <+tifreak> XD
[18:34:20] < Netham45> lazy bastard.
[18:34:28] < Netham45> :P
[18:36:04] <+tifreak> I am going to *try* to come up with an easier way to set up an archives system for my site...
[18:36:20] < i_c-Y> what are you using right now?
[18:36:33] <+tifreak> Well.. nothing really
[18:36:37] <+tifreak> used to be static pages
[18:36:49] < i_c-Y> hm. why dont you just do it through a CMS?
[18:36:52] <+tifreak> then a friend was going to assist in making them php, but has since disappeared
[18:36:55] < i_c-Y> a lot of them have file organization methods.
[18:37:23] <+tifreak> Well, trying to make it work via the control panel set up that i already have set up and am still adding to on my site
[18:37:46] <+tifreak> and I have downloaded a couple of them, and cannot make heads or tails of their code...
[18:37:52] < _krisk_> http://dev.cmsmadesimple.org/softwaremap/trove_list.php?form_cat=319
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[18:38:27] <+tifreak> I really want to get one going, so there is an easier place to get those mario68k level sets at. ;)
[18:38:43] < i_c-Y> if you have fantastico on your plan you can do 1 click installs of phpnuke/ postnuke / stuff
[18:39:05]  * tifreak shrugs at that
[18:39:11] <+tifreak> krisk: thanks for the link, checking it out
[18:40:04] < MetalRand> What's the link to your archive again?
[18:40:49] <+tifreak> The static pages can still be found at http://tifreakware.net/archive.htm
[18:41:46] <+tifreak> I have an idea on setting up a list of catagories and such, that is the easy part
[18:41:49] <+tifreak> I think :P
[18:42:29] < MetalRand> That looks like it'd be easy enough to re-make in PHP...
[18:42:36] <+tifreak> i know
[18:42:49] <+tifreak> the thing is, i don't have that great of knowledge in php :/
[18:42:53] <+tifreak> working on it though
[18:42:53] < btrettel> tifreak, if you want I can give you the code I'm using at calc.org right now.  It's plenty adequate for what you'd want to do.
[18:43:18] <+Nikky> calc.org sucks
[18:43:22] < btrettel> You suck Nikky.
[18:43:28] <+Nikky> and tifreak is homebrew :)
[18:43:47] < btrettel> Well, he could examine my code.  That's what I was goign to type until I said that you suck.
[18:43:48] <+tifreak> that would be awesome btrettel, if nothing else, that would give me something to base mine off of ^^
[18:43:54] < btrettel> Exactly.
[18:44:09] < btrettel> PHP and MySQL are pretty easy to work with.
[18:44:23] < btrettel> I'm not a programmer (or so I think) and I haven't had much trouble.
[18:44:32] <+tifreak> it is not bad, but for some reason, I always figure out a way for it to not work.. <.<
[18:44:40] <+tifreak> i swear php hates me
[18:44:40] <+Nikky> Use perl
[18:44:45] <+Nikky> PHP is for noobs
[18:44:45] < _krisk_> aaaagh perl
[18:44:48] <+tifreak> lol, knew that was coming :P
[18:44:55] < _krisk_> debugging perl is not pretty
[18:45:02] < btrettel> I've used both and I've found PHP significantly easier to code.
[18:45:08] <+Nikky> That's nice
[18:45:11] < btrettel> In my opinion, of course.
[18:45:16] < btrettel> I know you'll disagree Nikky.
[18:45:18] <+Nikky> You also run a site about waterguns
[18:45:19] <+Nikky> so...
[18:45:24] < btrettel> You also are a cretin.
[18:45:33] < _krisk_> perl may be more powerfull but php is sweet
[18:45:38] < MetalRand> Perl, I think, is only good for huge web applicatoins.
[18:45:41] < MetalRand> * applications
[18:45:48] < _krisk_> thats what java is for :P
[18:45:53] < i_c-Y> its really not, MetalRand 
[18:45:57] <+Nikky> Perl is good for everything
[18:46:07] <+Nikky> It's like crack
[18:46:16] <+tifreak> lol
[18:46:22] <+patz2009> !qfind crack
[18:46:22] <@efneTI86> 1072:Nikky: <Tari_> randomist is like a crack milkshake | <Tari_> really, _really_ bad for you
[18:46:24] <@efneTI86> 988:slythe: <patz2009> i jsut cracked open a 9v | <patz2009> lo and behold, 6 AAAAs
[18:46:24] < _krisk_> perl is mostly applicable as a general language that can be applied to legacy system/hw interaction imho
[18:46:26] <@efneTI86> 1078:patz2009: <Spengo> it was hard the first tiem I did it | <Spengo> this time it was really easy | <Spengo> I sorta had this plan in my head when I went in | <Spengo> I was like, THIS is what I'm going to do this time | <Spengo> just hide behind a giant spike to block that goddamn teleporter attack while shooting it before it's head is opened | <BrandonW> This is cracking me up. | <BrandonW> Reading it out of context, that is.
[18:46:31] <@efneTI86> (Plus 1 more matches: http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/?filter=crack&channel=tcpa&search=search)
[18:46:44] <+patz2009> ^ 1072
[18:46:51] < _krisk_> but for an archive like you need tifreak mostly any CMS can work
[18:46:56] < i_c-Y> _krisk_: ... elaborate. or dont, cause thats not really a great point
[18:47:12] < _krisk_> theres not much of a point
[18:47:14] < _krisk_> just an observation
[18:47:16] < btrettel> All you need to do tifreak is write a script to first make some database entries, or just make them directly with some SQL.
[18:47:29] < btrettel> Install MySQL on your computer now and learn a bit.
[18:47:39] <+Nikky> Or use perl
[18:47:42] < btrettel> Then you can write something to read that database and you're done.
[18:47:42] < _krisk_> lol
[18:47:44] <+Nikky> which does the coding for you
[18:47:46] <+tifreak> yeah, I have xampp, just need to install
[18:48:19] < btrettel> That should be more than adequate.
[18:48:48] <+tifreak> yeah, tried to put it on my vista machine, that was a total failure :P
[18:49:04] <+Nikky> just test on your server
[18:49:08] <+Nikky> it's easier
[18:49:16] <+tifreak> that is what I have been doing on this machine
[18:49:21] < btrettel> Do you have SSH on your server tifreak?
[18:49:33] <+tifreak> umm... I am not sure.. let me see..
[18:49:38] <+Nikky> you don't even need that
[18:49:51] < btrettel> It would help.  I've run a good deal of shell scripts on calc.org.
[18:49:59] <+Nikky> we get it, calc.org
[18:50:07] < btrettel> We get it Nikky.  You suck.
[18:50:13] <+Nikky> Maybe everyone else should start mentioning all of their sites?
[18:50:30] < btrettel> It's a site I run, yes.  It's not off-topic.  It's an example.
[18:50:32] <+Nikky> I use perl on NVM2U.COM
[18:50:38] < _krisk_> i dont think hell need ssh for ggetting an archive up and running
[18:50:52] < btrettel> He could use it to run MySQL.  I do that all the time.
[18:50:53] <+Nikky> There are SHELL scRiptS on calcg.OrG
[18:51:01] < MetalRand> Hell has SSH?
[18:51:17] < _krisk_> yeah i know but most hosting already run mysql and such
[18:51:38] < btrettel> I mean to log on and run mysql and type command in there.
[18:51:44] < btrettel> *queries
[18:51:54] < _krisk_> oh yeah ok but there's mysql.exe right :)
[18:51:57] < _krisk_> the client
[18:52:01] < btrettel> Yes.
[18:52:10] < _krisk_> thats what ive always used for that
[18:52:18] <+Nikky> I have no idea what mysql is
[18:52:27] < Netham45> "The answer to the ultimate question, of life, the universe, and everything, is... 42."
[18:52:30] <+tifreak> That.. is something I know little about, using the queries box. I use the phpMyadmin page to access and edit things
[18:52:35] < btrettel> That's fine too.
[18:52:40] < _krisk_> yeah thatll work
[18:52:46] < _krisk_> phpmyadmin also has sql query box stuff
[18:52:48] <+Ben_O> Yo dawgs
[18:53:09] <+tifreak> Just wish I could add more than 2 rows to a table at a time :P
[18:53:20] < _krisk_> its hard to get someone to learn php from scratch effectively though
[18:53:59] < btrettel> I learned PHP by taking a script a friend of mine wrote and modifying the code until it was something completely different.
[18:54:04] <+tifreak> I have a couple books.. trying to learn from them and looking at others code at the same time
[18:54:14] < _krisk_> i now help at a school project to get some guys to develop webprojects in php/mysql and they started with no knowledge of it whatsoever a month ago
[18:54:21] <+tifreak> kinda like when I learned 83 basic :P
[18:54:44] < btrettel> I found books mostly useless tifreak.  Online reference has been the most useful.
[18:54:50] < MetalRand> I learned it by reading other's scripts.
[18:55:05] < btrettel> You basically need to get a feel for it.
[18:55:05] < MetalRand> And diving into it the same way I did with ASM.
[18:55:12] < _krisk_> i used google and the php online manual :P
[18:55:28] < _krisk_> and of course general oop stuff as far as it can be applied to webdev
[18:55:32] <+Nikky> Try using a new language... like perl.
[18:55:39] < _krisk_> ive done perl btw
[18:55:54] <+tifreak> lol, you'll never give up on that, will you Nikky? :P
[18:56:00] <+Nikky> Of course not
[18:56:07] < i_c-Y> damn it
[18:56:13] <+Nikky> I must clense the world of the php scourge
[18:56:14] < i_c-Y> every time i turn my head away from the monitor
[18:56:21] < i_c-Y> you guys fill up my buffer with crap
[18:56:31] <+Nikky> Hey i_c-Y, how awesome is perl?
[18:56:35] < i_c-Y> very awesome
[18:56:36] < _krisk_> /quit, i_c-Y
[18:56:42] <+Nikky> See, we all agree
[18:56:51] < btrettel> It's good, but I don't think it's best for websites.
[18:56:55] < btrettel> PHP was designed for websites.
[18:56:58]  * MetalRand agrees.
[18:57:10] < i_c-Y> you have MetalRand on your side - you have to be wrong
[18:57:10] < _krisk_> perl is like trying to get a haircut with a plain razorblade
[18:57:24] < i_c-Y> ... have you ever used perl?
[18:57:26] < btrettel> Don't get me wrong.  I have used Perl and I like it.
[18:57:40] < btrettel> I used it just recently to parse 7000+ program files into a database.
[18:57:46] < btrettel> It was perfect for that.
[18:57:50] < btrettel> But not for websites.
[18:57:54] <+Nikky> That's where you're wrong
[18:57:56] < _krisk_> yeah file parsing
[18:57:57] <+Nikky> Mr. supersoaker.com
[18:58:10] < btrettel> You won't get off that will you Nikky?
[18:58:18] < _krisk_> though php can do the same thing with enough processing power :P
[18:58:21] < btrettel> How about you visit some of my websites sometime Nikky?
[18:58:28] < btrettel> Then you can decide if it's stupid or not.
[18:58:39] <+Nikky> How do you know I don't?
[18:58:46] < btrettel> I check the logs actually.
[18:58:50] < btrettel> You have, but not often.
[18:58:52] <+Nikky> Last I checked calc.org was a nightmare
[18:58:56] < btrettel> I know.
[18:59:06] < i_c-Y> wow
[18:59:07] <+Nikky> How do you know my IP?
[18:59:10] < btrettel> Magic.
[18:59:11] < i_c-Y> even omnimaga doesnt do that
[18:59:17] <+Nikky> This is a shell server
[18:59:25] <+Nikky> and chronomex shares the same ISP
[18:59:35] < MetalRand> I hope I get my money before May third..
[18:59:37] < btrettel> Well, you can tell him why that happens then.
[18:59:38] < _krisk_> what doesnt omnimaga do?
[18:59:45] < btrettel> It's your fault really.
[19:00:10] <+Nikky> _krisk_: omnimaga doesn't do anything, that's correct
[19:00:37] < i_c-Y> he's fairly innocous without Netham45 
[19:00:41] < i_c-Y> and MetalRand 
[19:00:44] < i_c-Y> with them hes annoying
[19:01:24] < MetalRand> It's our fault he's crazy?
[19:01:38] < _krisk_> i think you're all pretty swell guys
[19:02:04] <@E-J> asmand: http://www.mydigitallife.info/2006/04/13/installing-web-server-in-freebsd-60-with-apache-22-mysql-50-and-php-5-part-3/fi/
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[19:06:55] <+tifreak> so..
[19:06:59] <+tifreak> lol
[19:07:41] < _krisk_> anyways
[19:07:53] < _krisk_> how far are you into learning to use php tifreak?
[19:08:27] <+tifreak> I can do some simple things, with displaying content from a sqldb
[19:08:35] <+tifreak> add and remove content from them, etc
[19:08:54] <+tifreak> right now, creating the table for the archives listing
[19:08:59] <+tifreak> int he sql db
[19:09:13] < _krisk_> ok
[19:10:34] < _krisk_> well the way i see it everything else is either a simple matter of searching the manual for a specific function (like converting date values) or knowing how to tackle a concept/problem(like setting up a framework with template system)
[19:10:59] <+tifreak> yeah
[19:11:33] < i_c-Y> haha. not everything is a simple matter like that.
[19:11:42] <+tifreak> What would one use to find a row, based off of @_SESSION[username] in a sql?
[19:11:50] <+tifreak> $_SESSION*
[19:11:50] < i_c-Y> ie. benryves had to use some pre-1970 dates, which php didnt properly support.
[19:12:09] < _krisk_> but mysql does
[19:12:15] < _krisk_> findign a row = SELECT
[19:12:23] < i_c-Y> dont get me started on mysql.
[19:13:11] < _krisk_> and you can put the criteria for finding the row(s) in the WHERE clause, in this case you'd test for the username there
[19:13:46] <+tifreak> ok, I thought so
[19:13:55] < _krisk_> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/select.html
[19:14:41] < _krisk_> ? mysql6?
[19:15:33]  * tifreak shrugs
[19:17:53] < btrettel> You could just do a query like SELECT * FROM programs WHERE author='$user'.  It's that simple.
[19:18:50] <+tifreak> yeah, like I said, I thought so, just wanted to be sure :)
[19:19:02] < i_c-Y> i have a feeling tifreakware is heading toward a disaster.
[19:19:09] <+tifreak> o.O
[19:19:14] <+tifreak> Why do you say that?
[19:19:39] < _krisk_> well it can be done differently of course, if you're concerned with software maintenance and such
[19:19:40] < MetalRand> Ouch, i_c-Y .
[19:20:05] < i_c-Y> its an old feeling in my bones. 
[19:20:29] < i_c-Y> mainly occurs when i read stuff in this channel having to do with computers, and i cringe on the inside.
[19:20:32] < i_c-Y> anyhow, time to write lab
[19:20:42] <+tifreak> o.O
[19:20:45] < btrettel> Read something about SQL injection too tifreak: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL_injection
[19:20:51] <+tifreak> glad I have your vote of confidence...
[19:20:55] < MetalRand>  I'm sure tifreak works on a copy of the site and makes sure everything's working perfectly there before applying the changes to the real thing, right?  
[19:20:56] <+tifreak> :P
[19:21:16] < i_c-Y> tifreak: honestly, id rather have Barrett helping you right now.
[19:21:35] <+tifreak> Metalrand: I keeps different backups on my computer, so if a file is messed up, I can simply copy/paste
[19:22:01] <+tifreak> i_c-Y, I take help where ever I can get it, and then if someone provides a better/optimized way of doing things, then I can always change it
[19:22:03] < _krisk_> sounds like a fine countermeasure against whiny hacks who mess up your site while youre trying to learn this stuff
[19:22:33] < _krisk_> i say stick to that untill youve got your basic site environment going well and then look at improving things
[19:23:22] < _krisk_> then when youre doing that youll notice what kind of stuff gets changed and learn how to anticipate that in code of the future
[19:23:50] <+tifreak> :)
[19:24:21] <+tifreak> Well, hopefully I can get this figured out soon enough, and move on to other things...
[19:24:33] <+tifreak> just got to take it one step at a time
[19:24:38] < _krisk_> of course
[19:24:45] < _krisk_> whats other things are you thinking of?
[19:25:29] <+tifreak> After the archives, would like 2 things, a contest system to more easily keep track of it once I can do another one, and a CPanel like system for those programmers and such that I give hosting to
[19:25:50] <+tifreak> give them easier access to their folders and files
[19:25:58] <+tifreak> through the control panel
[19:26:28] < _krisk_> ok I would take some time to learn how to improve things before writing that cp thing because thats most like a new system and could thus benefit a lot if your current code is reusable
[19:26:41] < i_c-Y> are you sure you know how much work you're getting into to make this properly, tifreak ?
[19:27:07] <+tifreak> I know, it will take a lot of work.. it is not like I have anything else to do right now :P
[19:27:23] <+tifreak> and yeah, krisk, I know, that is last on the list
[19:27:45] < i_c-Y> just as long as you know you're reinventing the wheel, and the risks involved i suppose...
[19:29:03]  * tifreak shrugs
[19:29:16] < _krisk_> i_c-Y are you suggesting a good open source php webframework?
[19:29:33] <+tifreak> There is already a lot done to the CP, no reason to scrap it out for something else that I would have to reconfigure to make my site work
[19:29:38] < MetalRand> I thought i_c-Y hates open-source.
[19:29:53] < i_c-Y> no, no, MetalRand , i hate idiots.
[19:30:09] < _krisk_> well closed source would be hard for a php system you'd download
[19:31:23] < i_c-Y> no its not.
[19:32:14] < Netham45> code obsificuation?
[19:32:20] < Netham45> I know I misspelled that...
[19:32:53] < _krisk_> even if its hard to understand it would still be releasing the source
[19:33:06] < _krisk_> that is done a lot though:P very lulzy
[19:33:54] < i_c-Y> you have products like zend encoder among other things.
[19:34:19] < i_c-Y> so its open source in the same vein distributing a class file is open source.
[19:34:28] < i_c-Y> sure you could go back , but does it make any sense?
[19:34:38] < i_c-Y> err
[19:34:40] < i_c-Y> zend guard now
[19:34:51] < _krisk_> yeah ok
[19:34:58]  * MetalRand goes away to set up Lighttpd
[19:36:21] < _krisk_> but where are you going to find a good closed php framework for download?
[19:36:35] < MetalRand> And for free?
[19:37:49] < i_c-Y> i'm not arguing for a free one, and stop buzzwording per say, _krisk_ 
[19:38:15] < i_c-Y> im stating that they exist, and they do their job. and its not hard , its just as easy as using zend sudio regularly.
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[19:39:18] < _krisk_> lolbuzzwording
[19:39:27] < Netham45> lolsenselesstrolling
[19:39:31] <@E-J> http://i32.tinypic.com/23wp9h5.gif
[19:40:05] < _krisk_> you think someone can use zf for example though with only knowledge of php on a scripting level?
[19:40:46] <+Nikky> Netham45: How is he trolling?
[19:44:37] < i_c-Y> people seem to think open source is the solution to everything
[19:44:57] < Netham45> it'snot
[19:44:59] < _krisk_> i dont
[19:45:27] <+tifreak> free downloads could be the solution to alot of things... :D
[19:45:59] < Netham45> but an open source VS. closed source, from what I have observed, the open source will have bugs/holes fixed sooner than the closed source, unless the closed source is being sold, but that brings in the whole cost effective thing, etc...
[19:46:09] <+Nikky> No, that's actually incorrect
[19:46:26] <+Nikky> Closed source IE had bugs and holes fixed at the same rate as Firefox.
[19:46:39] <@E-J> http://www.jannekarvo.com/nayttelyt/rottia/tytto02.jpg
[19:46:51] < Netham45> Microsoft doesn't maek money off of IE.
[19:46:54] < Netham45> they make money off of Windows
[19:46:57] <+Nikky> So?
[19:47:01] < Netham45> people don't get Windows for IE.
[19:47:02] <+Nikky> How does money fit into any of this?
[19:47:08] <+Nikky> You're an idiot.
[19:47:16] < _krisk_> closed source software can be developed just as securely as open source of course
[19:47:20] <+Nikky> You're comparing apples and oranges
[19:47:21] < Netham45> your argument is astounding.
[19:47:36] <+Nikky> You're comparing business plans to open/closed source
[19:47:50] < Netham45> no
[19:47:54] <+Nikky> Yes, you are.
[19:47:56] < Netham45> lol
[19:47:58] < Netham45> how so?
[19:48:09] < i_c-Y> there are free closed source programs.
[19:48:11] < _krisk_> "cost effectiveness"
[19:48:23] <+Nikky> I'm not sure how that's anything but a business/economic argument
[19:48:23] < _krisk_> and paid open source programs
[19:48:26] < i_c-Y> open source doesnt always save you money, etc.
[19:49:28] <+Nikky> http://www.unitedti.org/index.php?showtopic=7891&hl=
[19:49:30] <+Nikky> that's a stupid post
[19:49:45] <+Nikky> "I want it to have wifi... cheap, but I'll also be doing *video editing*"
[19:49:59] < _krisk_> clearly he couldnt have both
[19:50:11] <+Nikky> I
[19:50:32] <+Nikky> I'm surprised he manages to get online
[19:50:43] < _krisk_> actually his reasoning in that paragraph makes sense to me
[19:52:15] < _krisk_> they way you 'quote' it makes it sound stupid but he's really just formulating what it will be used for and what it might be used for as well
[19:53:46] < _krisk_> though with laptops i find the main use rather moot
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[19:54:00] < _krisk_> its not like youll have to decide between dual GF9600s or extra ram in a laptop
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[19:54:20] <@E-J> is there any laptop on market these days that doesn't have wlan?
[19:54:28] <+Nikky> Who knows
[19:54:46] <+Nikky> Someone like that should just go to best buy and be overcharged
[19:54:51] <+Nikky> because they deserve it
[19:54:57] < _krisk_> hehe
[19:55:20] <+Nikky> "this can do email, right?"
[19:55:32] <+Nikky> "Yes, but we suggest the 4GB RAM upgrade for email"
[19:55:42] < Netham45> for laptop, all I can really find a use for is document editing, or internet browsing, something my 1.2GHz P3 512MB Ram XP Laptop does fine.
[19:56:08] < _krisk_> my phone does that fine
[19:56:22] < Netham45> my phone does it too
[19:56:22] <@E-J> i have watched some cheap laptops (500 euros and less) and every model have 802.11g
[19:56:26] <@E-J> has*
[19:56:35] < prime38> i hardly ever bring my laptop to class
[19:56:37] < Netham45> but the small screen...
[19:56:47] < _krisk_> i havent even booted my laptop in at least 2 years
[19:56:50] < Netham45> well, I'm in high school, so I don't need a laptop in class.
[19:56:59] < Netham45> heh
[19:57:00] < _krisk_> come to think of it i dont even know where it is
[19:57:03] < Netham45> I havn't used mine in about a month
[19:57:07] <+tifreak> o.o
[19:57:10] < Netham45> the mouse is all fucked up on it...
[19:57:15] < _krisk_> my keyboard is fucked
[19:57:19] < _krisk_> 0.5L lemonade
[19:57:36] <+tifreak> I wanted a laptop that had a 14.1" screen, but could not afford one :/
[19:57:37] < _krisk_> well it works just sounds a bit wierd
[19:57:40] < Netham45> heh
[19:57:44] <+Nikky> I don't use laptops in class
[19:57:54] < Netham45> the touchpad on my mouse consistantly drags it to the top right corner
[19:58:05] < Netham45> and I havn't gotten in there to cut the ribbon on it yet.
[19:58:15] < _krisk_> dont bother taking anything to college classes, not even a pen. just sit there, stare at the teacher explaining stuff, agree to do stuff at home, and get out the mp3 player for the bussride home
[19:58:20] <@E-J> only reason to have one is that i think i might need something to program with or do other things in school / work
[19:58:36] < Netham45> I'm taking my desktop to college when I go.
[19:58:41] <+tifreak> lol, I had my 83+ most of the time at college...
[19:58:43] < Netham45> I personally hate laptops... =/
[19:58:48] <+Nikky> I brought a laptop and desktop
[19:59:00] <@E-J> for irc i can always use my cellphone (e90)
[19:59:06] <+Nikky> and considering getting an Eeepc 900 just for the hell of it
[19:59:09] <+tifreak> the teacher gave us this long list of equations and stuff, which I was like "Yeah, like I am gonna keep this"
[19:59:10] < Netham45> yea, I can get on cgi:irc on my cell
[19:59:18] < Netham45> hmm
[19:59:19] <+tifreak> I cam back to class the next day, and had it all on my calc. :P
[19:59:23] < Netham45> an eeepc might be worth it.
[19:59:23] <+tifreak> came*
[19:59:30] < _krisk_> lulz
[19:59:49] < Netham45> most laptops are too big to be portable, and too underpowered to be useful.
[19:59:54] < _krisk_> jup
[20:00:08] < Netham45> I've been looking at an UMPC
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[20:01:37] <+Nikky> Shouldn't you be spamming somewhere?
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[20:03:31] <@efneTI86> [DA|ES-IV] We called it Sin.
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[20:05:16] <+tifreak> Bah, where did all that nice warm weather go?
[20:05:19] <+tifreak> <.<
[20:05:21] <+tifreak> >.>
[20:06:08] < btrettel> Here I woke up to thunder and had to move my bike in quick.
[20:06:16] < btrettel> I woke up right about when rain started.
[20:06:31] < btrettel> It was weird.
[20:06:58] <+tifreak> a few days ago I woke up to my house shaking :P
[20:07:11] <+tifreak> I was all "Holy crap!"
[20:07:20] < btrettel> Do you live where that happened?
[20:07:28] <+tifreak> nope
[20:07:32] <+tifreak> not even close
[20:07:34] <+tifreak> well
[20:07:50] <+tifreak> i guess, driving wise, I dont live close :P
[20:07:59] <+tifreak> I live in Seymour, IN
[20:08:08] < btrettel> Okay.  Not exactly close.
[20:08:29] < btrettel> Closer than me though.
[20:08:56] <+tifreak> i take it you felt the quake as well?
[20:09:13] < btrettel> No, I just heard about it.  A guy on my floor was talking about it.  I live in Maryland.
[20:09:18] <+tifreak> ah
[20:09:29] <+tifreak> Well, I know it was felt up in Michigan
[20:10:33] <+Nikky> earthquakes
[20:10:39] <+Nikky> haven't you ever felt one before?
[20:10:44] <+tifreak> nope
[20:10:58] <+Nikky> sheesh, midwesterners
[20:11:06] <+tifreak> lol
[20:20:48] < _krisk_> "a 2001 cult film from Odessa Filmworks which deals with Jesus' modern-day struggle to protect the lesbians of Ottawa, Canada, from vampires with the help of Mexican wrestler El Santos" lulz
[20:21:24] <+tifreak> o.O
[20:21:26] <+tifreak> rofl
[20:30:32] <@Andy_J> wtf?
[20:31:06] < _krisk_> btw is ottawa canada full of angsty teen goths or something?
[20:31:39] < i_c-Y> o_0
[20:31:45] < i_c-Y> what the fuck is wrong with you, _krisk_ 
[20:31:51] <@Andy_J> It's canadiastania what do you thinkg >_> <_<
[20:32:28] < _krisk_> whats makes you think there's something wrong with me?
[20:33:23] <+tifreak> When you see (.Y.) what do you think of? This will determine what is wrong with you XD
[20:33:27] <+tifreak> lol
[20:33:45] < _krisk_> metal chick boobies
[20:34:42] < _krisk_> but uhm that scene film i mentioned is a comedy
[20:34:58] < _krisk_> *cult
[20:35:50] <+Nikky> whore
[20:36:00] < _krisk_> hmm?
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[20:40:03] < _krisk_> "Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter"
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[20:45:14] < tifreak83> meh
[20:45:19] < tifreak83> stupid dialup
[20:45:55] < i_c-Y> get dsl
[20:45:57] < i_c-Y> or cable
[20:45:59] < i_c-Y> or oc-48
[20:46:25] < _krisk_> *be able to
[20:46:54] < tifreak83> cant get cable, they are lame
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[20:47:04] < tifreak83> same with dsl
[20:47:12] < tifreak83> dunno wth oc-48 is
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[20:47:21] <@efneTI86> [Netham45] netham45 netham45 netham45 nethaERROR STACK OVERFLOW
[20:47:30] < Netham45> etf...
[20:47:31] < Netham45> wtf*
[20:47:32] < tifreak83> one of these days I will be able to afford putting my phone up as a faster internets connection
[20:47:48] < Netham45> I think my TV tuner is going bad, every time try to watch TV, my PC freezes...
[20:48:00] < i_c-Y> are you sure its not just a windows issue
[20:48:26] < Netham45> it doesn't freeze when I'm not watching TV...
[20:48:48] < Netham45> I think my PC is getting too hot, actually...
[20:49:17] < Netham45> my water isn't hot...
[20:49:45] < Netham45> CPU @ 45, ambient @ 43...
[20:49:48] < Netham45> hmm
[20:50:17] < _krisk_> celcius?
[20:50:18] < i_c-Y> check cpu, etc when trying to watch
[20:50:27] < Netham45> yes, celcius
[20:50:28] < i_c-Y> mcupdate tends to go crazy on mine  and freezes the machine
[20:50:29] < _krisk_> :P
[20:50:42] < Netham45> i_c-y, no, it isn't a slowness, it's a hard freeze.
[20:51:05] < _krisk_> ive been getting strange freezes too, also have a tv tuner card but not using it
[20:51:19] < _krisk_> think it was firefox though
[20:51:29] < Netham45> mine freezes after about 15 minutes of usage
[20:52:46] < Netham45> damnit
[20:52:50] < _krisk_> mind you windwos also keeps trying to scan my drives when i boot even though they have been scanned repeatedly without any errors showing up
[20:52:51] < Netham45> where is my thermal grease...
[20:53:26] < i_c-Y> Netham45: nothing comes up in logs?
[20:53:38] < Netham45> the system error logs?
[20:53:42] < Netham45> never thought to look there...
[20:54:15] < Netham45> hmm
[20:54:16] < Netham45> O
[20:54:23] < Netham45> I'm seeing alot of NTFS failures...
[20:54:27] < Netham45> no, those are old.
[20:54:52] < Netham45> I have no critical entries since 2007
[21:04:30] < _krisk_> i love it when people say theyll be right back in the middle of a conversation, are gone for 2 hours and then leave alltogether without saying a thing
[21:04:45] < _krisk_> on msn
[21:06:11] < tifreak83> lol
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[21:16:53] <@efneTI86> [Merthsoft] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
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[21:26:03] < Killa-X> Hello peoplez
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[21:26:33] <+Tari> O_o
[21:26:44] <+Tari> I just discovered 4 tubes of PICs in the basement
[21:26:57] < tifreak83> o.O
[21:27:01] < tifreak83> hello killa-x
[21:27:29] < Killa-X> so..is thre going t ever be a real mirageOS update..at all.?
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[21:27:44] <+Tari> maybe sometime
[21:27:49] <+Tari> depends on BrandonW
[21:28:09] < Killa-X> that rick-roll thing (fell for it) was stupid lol
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[21:30:07] < i_c-Y> its a sign of ticalc.org's decline
[21:31:09] < Killa-X> <Killa-X - Moo> yeah.. that really bites
[21:31:36] < Killa-X> <Killa-X - Moo> Younger people prob wont ever know about the site. btw im typing IRC in garrys mod haha
[21:32:13] < Killa-X> <Bright - SUSaiyan> what site?
[21:32:40] < Killa-X> <Killa-X - Moo> you know ticalc.org
[21:32:54] <+Tari> people who do 'sudo su' make me mad
[21:33:02] <+Tari> they should at least have the courtesy to do 'sudo -i'
[21:33:07] < Killa-X> <Bright - SUSaiyan> sudo su
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[21:34:38] < _krisk_> who needs to accomplish anything if you can play dungeon crawl instead
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[21:36:17] < _krisk_> You see here a cap. You finish putting on your +0 cap.
[21:36:18] < _krisk_> woot
[21:36:33] < tifreak83> lol
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[21:38:31] <+Tari> suddenly the ceiling falls on you and eats you
[21:38:33] <+Tari> you have died
[21:39:10] < _krisk_> A large net falls onto you! You become entangled in the net! Xom finds this hilarious.
[21:40:04] < tifreak83> The planet explodes, God laughs in spite
[21:41:35] < tifreak83> I think I will see if this star trek game will play now that I have more RAM...
[21:41:47] < Netham45> killa-x, sudo -i also works
[21:41:49] < Netham45> and it's a bit cleaner
[21:42:23] < Netham45> hmm
[21:42:25] < Netham45> missed tari's post
[21:42:26] < Netham45> heh
[21:43:38] <+Tari> I really need to get a larger hard drive for my xbox
[21:47:54] < i_c-Y> fuck this, i think im going HP.
[21:51:15] < tifreak83> o.O
[21:51:21] < tifreak83> for what icy?
[21:51:22] < i_c-Y> i lost my 89 ti.
[21:51:27] < i_c-Y> thats right.
[21:51:30] < i_c-Y> i lost my 89 ti.
[21:51:39] < tifreak83> o.o
[21:51:41] < tifreak83> :(
[21:51:55] < tifreak83> how the heck could you lose that big, bulky, ugly calc?
[21:52:01] < i_c-Y> its not ugly!
[21:52:06] < i_c-Y> i dont know
[21:52:16] < i_c-Y> so, i need to go buy a replacement calculator and the HP 50g looks damn appealing
[21:52:45] < _krisk_> The book bursts into flames. Trog is delighted!
[21:52:45] < tifreak83> i was j/k about the looks of the calc icy ;)
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[21:53:30] < _krisk_> hmm +1 cap or +0 wizard's hat?
[22:00:26] < PollTroll> what's the generic linux wireless driver that apparently works with most wireless cards?
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[22:03:35] < Netham45> afaik, there is no generic driver, but you might be thinking of ndiswrapper that lets you use most windows drivers.
[22:03:45] < MetalRand> Does http://alpha.randomosity.mine.nu:8080/ give "Forbidden" here?
[22:04:01] < Netham45> 403
[22:04:05] < MetalRand> 'K, good.
[22:04:18] < Netham45> I've been forbade.
[22:04:43] < Netham45> hehe
[22:04:48] < Netham45> my sites allready a beta
[22:04:50] < Netham45> beta.netham45.org
[22:05:07] < Netham45> http://beta.netham45.org/
[22:08:02] <+Tari> lame
[22:09:06] < PollTroll> if I had a really good idea for an amazing website that would have the potential to be bigger than facebook, would any of you help build it with no promise of ever getting any money?
[22:09:21] < Netham45> PollTroll, no.
[22:09:33] < PollTroll> Netham45: I wouldn't have accepted you anyways
[22:09:34] < PollTroll> ;)
[22:10:13] < _krisk_> depends on how big the initial product must be
[22:10:37] < PollTroll> the combination of hours of all developers would be at least 1000 before it could be launched
[22:10:55] < _krisk_> thats a silly rule
[22:11:06] < PollTroll> it's an estimate, not a rule
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[22:12:20]  * MetalRand thinks there are already too many social networking websites.
[22:12:48] < _krisk_> its not just a social networking site is it?
[22:12:50] < Netham45> the markets so saturated, it's going to be hard to put a new one out there and have it get big.
[22:12:52] < PollTroll> it is not
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[22:13:21] < Netham45> you're going to have to do something truly original for a networking site to get noticed.
[22:13:30] < PollTroll> it is not
[22:14:04] < Netham45> what is it then?
[22:14:04] < PollTroll> although networking will be a part of it, it will be a very small part of it, and not the main product
[22:14:33] < _krisk_> so what do you need coded
[22:15:07] < PollTroll> well, a major aspect of the site will be an implementation of Open Social
[22:15:17] < Netham45> chatrooms?
[22:15:49] < Netham45> 'cause we have those allready.
[22:16:25] <+Tari> *grumble*
[22:16:52] <+Tari> now I need to redownload xbmc since the one I just got was corrupt..
[22:17:05] < Netham45> get it off of t3ch's site
[22:17:31] < Netham45>  http://t3ch.yi.se/\
[22:17:34] < Netham45> http://t3ch.yi.se/
[22:17:45] <+Tari> yes
[22:17:46] <+Tari> I know
[22:17:53] <+Tari> but this connection is slow
[22:18:01] <+Tari> and it takes >30 minutes to download
[22:18:04] < Netham45> ah
[22:18:13] < Netham45> is it compressed on his site?
[22:18:22] <+Tari> it's a rar
[22:18:23] < Netham45> 'cause I think I have a compressed version on my site...
[22:18:24] < Netham45> ah
[22:21:41] < Netham45> wtf
[22:21:45] < Netham45> I can't get on MSN or AOL
[22:21:46] < Netham45> AIM*
[22:22:19] < Netham45> augh...
[22:24:06] < tifreak83> this installation of Star Trek Legacy is taking for frickin ever...
[22:24:27] < i_c-Y> its because your computer sucks.
[22:24:42] < tifreak83> um, no
[22:24:47] < tifreak83> dont think so :P
[22:24:59] < i_c-Y> and you have dialup
[22:25:02] < i_c-Y> and you worship the devil
[22:25:15] < tifreak83> but the devil pays me $100 a week to do so..
[22:25:30] < tifreak83> and dialup has nothing to do with an installation :P
[22:26:23] < i_c-Y> oh yes it does
[22:26:28] < i_c-Y> thats the cause of all your problems
[22:26:43] < i_c-Y> ask geeksquad to save yo
[22:26:43] < i_c-Y> u
[22:29:53] < Netham45> fuck
[22:29:58] < Netham45> logged onto yahoo...
[22:30:05] < Netham45> got like 90000 spam messages...
[22:30:37] < _krisk_> wooo sleep time
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[22:32:41] < MetalRand> Firefox must be sick.  It's never behaved this well.
[22:32:52] < tifreak83> lol icy
[22:32:59] < Netham45> FIREFOX SUCKS!
[22:33:25] < Netham45> i_c-Y, don't endorse them, even if joking...
[22:33:45] < MetalRand> Maybe the Arch guys patched the version in the repository.
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[22:34:55] < i_c-Y> Netham45: im serious
[22:35:04] < i_c-Y> GeekSquad has an array of highly trained professionals
[22:35:08] < Netham45> i_c-Y, HAHAHA
[22:35:16] < Netham45> you're comical
[22:36:00] < prime38> !k Netham45 caps
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[22:36:09] < Netham45> bah
[22:36:11] < Netham45> hater
[22:36:45] < Netham45> h8r
[22:36:47] < Netham45> :P
[22:40:51] < PollTroll> anyway... you know how all attempts at an internet OS really suck?
[22:41:40] < PollTroll> I'm going to fix that
[22:44:13] < MetalRand> Sounds like a project I started twice, and dumped twice.
[22:44:32] < PollTroll> fortunately I am not an idiot
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[22:44:38] <@efneTI86> [Merth] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
[22:44:43] < PollTroll> (joke)
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[22:44:47] < PollTroll> (don't hate me)
[22:45:12] < MetalRand> Meh, I just got lazy. 
[22:45:34] < PollTroll> are there any open source implementations of the open social API?
[22:45:42] < PollTroll> it would make it a lot easier if I didn't have to do it all from scratch...
[22:47:41] < MetalRand>  http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial/gettingstarted.html ?
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[22:49:09] < PollTroll> that's going to talk more about creating applications
[22:49:14] < PollTroll> instead of creating the actual API
[22:50:32] <+Tari> oh fail
[22:50:42] <+Tari> the latest t3ch build rar is broken
[22:52:33] < PollTroll> found it.
[22:52:34] < PollTroll> shindig
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[23:00:48] < Netham45> likeWOAH, fix ur internetz
[23:01:03] <@benryves> Netham45, fix your spelling.
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[23:01:32] < Netham45> benryves, it was deliberate.
[23:01:35] < Netham45> I can spell.
[23:02:04] <+Merth> hi Ben_O 
[23:02:05]  * MetalRand chants, "Defense!"
[23:02:05] <+Merth> erm
[23:02:08] <+Merth> benryves
[23:02:35] <@benryves> 'lo Merth :)
[23:02:35] < Netham45> Merth, I almost said Ben_O too.
[23:02:42] <+Merth> how are you?
[23:03:17] <@benryves> Merth: Eh, same as ever, with addition of mild irritation of how crude C#'s COM interop is. Yourself?
[23:03:33] <+Merth> I'm gonna get paid to learn C# this summer :D
[23:03:46] <@benryves> Range.Find.Execute(ref Missing, ref Missing, ref Missing, ref Missing, ref Missing, ref Missing, ref Missing, ref Missing, ref Missing, ref Missing, ref Missing, ref Missing, ref Missing, ref Missing, ref Missing); // Yeah...
[23:04:07] < Netham45> xD
[23:04:10] <+Merth> wow
[23:05:14] <@benryves> (Where object Missing = Type.Missing -- in VB.NET you can leave out optional parameters, as nature intended). :\
[23:05:46] < Netham45> xD
[23:05:52] < Netham45> vb.net above another language...
[23:05:57] < Netham45> I never thought I'd see the day.
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[23:06:56] <@benryves> Hm, VB.NET also has finer exception handling than C# (user-filtered exceptions, a .NET feature not exposed by C#).
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[23:19:48] < MetalRand> Setting an element to be a height of X EMs works for making the element X lines long, but what do I do if I also want to make an element X characters wide?
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[23:21:14] <@benryves> MetalRand: Use the same thing? Unless you're using a monospaced font, you can't guarantee that all the lines will be the same number of characters wide.
[23:21:48] < MetalRand> I have 'font-family' set to "'Courer New', monospace".
[23:22:58] <@benryves> Then (I guess) "width: 100em;" should make it 100 characters wide (well, 100*width-of-character-m).
[23:26:18] < DarkAuron> VWF are insane
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[23:27:52] < tifreak83> I need to find someone that wants to buy these Audiobooks... :/
[23:28:23] < prime38> ill buy one for 1$
[23:28:42] < tifreak83> would like to try to get more out of them tyvm
[23:29:07] < i_c-Y> http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/passover-420.php
[23:29:21] < i_c-Y> what audiobook?
[23:29:43] < tifreak83> Most of the Terry Goodkind's Sword of Truth series
[23:30:44] < i_c-Y> hm
[23:32:07] < Netham45> "With 230 Gigabit/s of Internet connectivity and 4.5 Petabytes of storage, RapidShare is one of the biggest and fastest web hosters world wide."
[23:32:08] < Netham45> want
[23:32:41] <+patz2009> i once heard that this one guy in Sweden has 87gigabit ethernet
[23:33:04] < Netham45> heh
[23:33:10] < Netham45> I am happy with my 25mbps connection
[23:33:28] <+patz2009> I also see no reason to have 87gbps
[23:33:41] < Netham45> was it private or for a business?
[23:33:45] < Netham45> for a business, I could see it.
[23:33:50] <+patz2009> his own private connection
[23:33:52] <@benryves> Netham45: "But we'll still force you to go via a really annoying and buggy download limiter, unless you give us your cash".
[23:34:07] < Netham45> haha, yea.
[23:34:15] < MetalRand> But a computer probably couldn't even process that fast anyway...
[23:34:23] < MetalRand> Unless that dude has, like, a super computer, too.
[23:34:36] < Netham45> oh?
[23:34:41] < Netham45> what have we here?
[23:34:46] < Netham45> sweetness
[23:34:58] < Netham45> was folding a pair of pants, and found $120 in 20s in it! woooooo
[23:35:01] <@benryves> I always wanted the internet connection the girl in those anti-piracy ads has. She downloads a film in, what, ten seconds?
[23:35:12] < Netham45> xD
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[23:35:31] < prime38> its calles the internet2
[23:36:20] <@benryves> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTbX1aMajow :D
[23:36:55] < Netham45> fine, pizza hut
[23:36:57] < Netham45> don't take my money
[23:37:17] < Netham45> their shittastic site only works in IE
[23:37:43] < MetalRand> IE is all you'll ever need.  
[23:38:09] <@E-J> patz2009: do you mean this http://www.thelocal.se/7869/20070712/
[23:38:22] < Netham45> MetalRand, as much as I like Windows, I still hate IE.
[23:38:35] < Netham45> wtf is this?
[23:38:41] < Netham45> $2 for a 2 liter of mountain dew?!
[23:38:44] < Netham45> BLASPHEMY!
[23:38:47] <+patz2009> E-J, that's probably it.
[23:38:56] <+patz2009> Though I could have sworn it was 87
[23:41:46] < i_c-Y> laaaaaaaaaag
[23:46:15] <+patz2009> laaaaaaaaaaaaag on 40GBPS connection? I doubt it
[23:46:42] < i_c-Y> who has a 40 GBPS connection?
[23:46:51] <+patz2009> http://www.thelocal.se/7869/20070712/
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[23:48:57] < i_c-Y> :o
[23:49:39] <+patz2009> yeah, want.
[23:49:45] < Netham45> what's a proper tip for a $18 pizza delivery?
[23:49:58] <+patz2009> $4
[23:50:09] <+patz2009> or $5
[23:50:12] < i_c-Y> 18 dollar pizza is expensive.
[23:50:25] <+patz2009> not if it's multiple pizzas
[23:50:51] < PollTroll> y asi el tiempo va pasando lentamente.
[23:51:10] < i_c-Y> it would have to be atleast 2 to be reasonable - theres a pizza place down the street, 8 dollars / pizza
[23:51:31] < PollTroll> y en un instante lo que siento va perdiendo color y va saliendo poco a poco de mi mente devuelve el tiempo cuando la vida tenia sabor
[23:51:35] <@benryves> Depends on the size of the pizza as well, I suppose.
[23:51:46] < prime38> and no. of toppings
[23:51:53] < prime38> and what kind of toppings
[23:51:57] <+patz2009> It depends on how far away the delivery is coming from
[23:52:10] < prime38> like, if it was gold and platinum topped, then it probably cost 18$ or more
[23:52:14] <+patz2009> because delivery people don't get copensated for gas
[23:52:26] < PollTroll> haha... yeah... at my house in california i always feel bad for delivery people
[23:52:57]  * benryves has never had a meal delivered. :\
[23:52:59] < PollTroll> it takes a good gallon of gas to get over the hill and back
[23:53:03] < PollTroll> (about a mile of road)
[23:53:15] < i_c-Y> * benryves has never had a meal delivered. :\ < same :)
[23:53:19] <+patz2009> therefore, $5
[23:54:02] < i_c-Y> Netham45: dont tip
[23:54:04] < i_c-Y> be an arse
[23:54:14] < PollTroll> dwight schrute
[23:54:37] < Netham45> i_c-Y, I order pizza quite often
[23:54:41] < prime38> benryves: i call shenanigans
[23:54:42] < Netham45> but I feel I usually give too big tips
[23:54:44] <@benryves> I usually add 10%, but that's in restaurants.
[23:54:48] < PollTroll> Why tip someone for a job I'm capable of doing myself? I can deliver food. I can drive a taxi. I can, and do, cut my own hair. I did however, tip my urologist, because I am unable to pulverize my own kidney stones. 
[23:54:49] <@benryves> prime38: ?
[23:54:49] < Netham45> that and people get happy... =/
[23:54:58] < prime38> that you have never had a meal delivered
[23:54:59] < Netham45> xD PollTroll.
[23:55:01] < prime38> you too i_c-Y
[23:55:03] < i_c-Y> happiness is overrated.
[23:55:10] < Netham45> well
[23:55:32] < Netham45> when you tip enough to get the 50 year old delivery man who looks like he just got off of the streets happy, you are tipping too much.
[23:55:54] <@benryves> prime38: The only take-away food I eat is fish and chips (where the chippy is a two minute walk down the road).
[23:56:26] < prime38> never ordered chinese or a pizza?
[23:56:34] < Netham45> I'll occassionally go to taco bell and bring it home
[23:56:37] < i_c-Y> always pickup, prime38 
[23:56:42] < prime38> or a jimmy johns
[23:56:47] <@benryves> Take-away chinese food is rank. :\
[23:56:49] < Netham45> but since the nearest closed, I havn't.
[23:57:01] < Netham45> there is this delicious chineese restaruant near my house
[23:57:04] < Netham45> it's awesome
[23:57:08] < prime38> chinese is delicious
[23:57:09] <@benryves> Curry isn't so bad, but in either case I'd still rather eat in the restaurant.
[23:57:15] < Netham45> when you order rice, they give you like 15lbs of rice.
[23:57:16] <@benryves> prime38: Yes, it is. Not take-away, though.
[23:57:51] < prime38> i dont see how takeaway is different than the other kind that you must be refering too
[23:58:44] <@benryves> prime38: By the time it has been put into boxes and transported to you, it's going stodgy. In the restaurant, it's pretty much straight from the cooking appliance to your plate.
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