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[00:00:08] < Cricket_B> TI-84+SE
[00:00:12] <+tifreak> I like to talk about my calc project when I work on it :P
[00:00:34] < Cricket_B> I have an upgrade idea for the bots.
[00:00:34] <+tifreak> Or the fact I am beta testing Ultima V on my 89 for Ranman ^_^
[00:00:45] < BrandonW> That Atlantis clip has an annoying whistle or woosh in the background.
[00:00:49] < Cricket_B> They can keep a log of who owns what calculators.
[00:01:03] <+tifreak> The one from Chevron26?
[00:01:07] < BrandonW> Yes.
[00:01:27] <+tifreak> i dont hear a whistle...
[00:01:29] < BrandonW> The 24 second one you said.
[00:03:11] <+tifreak> crap...
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[00:03:23] <+tifreak> need to find that real media video player again...
[00:04:01] <@E-J> tifreak: find alternative of it, normal rm has lots of spyware and stuff
[00:04:47] <+tifreak> got a link on that by chance?
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[00:06:29] <@efneTI86> [Netham46] netham45 netham45 netham45 nethaERROR STACK OVERFLOW
[00:08:17] < Cricket_B> Anyone know of a way to decompile a DLL file?
[00:08:33] < Cricket_B> Netham46???
[00:08:54] < Netham46> Cricket_B, open it in notepad. Any real programmer can read it from there.
[00:09:24] < Netham46> erm, no.
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[00:09:43] < Cricket_B> Yeah...any real programmer can figure out what ASCII code a character is just by looking at it, even though it is duplicated :D
[00:09:46] < MetalRand> There's some resource-editor program for Windows that has a decompiler, but I forgot what the naem is.
[00:09:57] < Cricket_B> DEBUG?
[00:10:00] < MetalRand> ResHack, maybe, or something; I forget.
[00:10:16] < Cricket_B> I think I have a resource editor
[00:10:30] < Cricket_B> (now to find it)
[00:11:10] < Netham46> google finds all
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[00:11:25] < Cricket_B> Even files on your computer?
[00:11:29] < tr1p1ea> !!!ELSSUH EHT OD
[00:11:35] < Cricket_B> BRB
[00:11:39] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Goplat`] by efneTI80
[00:11:40] < MetalRand> Start -> Search. :P
[00:11:48] < DA|ES-IV> I'm so addicted to this game <_<
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[00:12:03] < tr1p1ea> ES-IV?
[00:12:10] < DA|ES-IV> yes, oblivion
[00:12:15] <+tifreak> brb
[00:12:20] < DA|ES-IV> I never seriously played it before.
[00:12:25] < tr1p1ea> neither
[00:12:29] < tr1p1ea> though ive seen others play it
[00:12:32] < Netham46> I was like that with Fable
[00:12:39] < DA|ES-IV> I preordered it, and got it the day it came out
[00:12:40] < DA|ES-IV> then I didn't play it much
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[00:12:49] < tr1p1ea> those games are too much effort for me
[00:12:50] < DA|ES-IV> heh.. oblivion is way more in-depth and more open-ended than fable
[00:12:52] < Netham46> I messed around with it every once in a while, then I started doing the mission
[00:12:54] < DA|ES-IV> but fable is pretty cool
[00:13:07] < tr1p1ea> wasnt fable short?
[00:13:11] < DA|ES-IV> sortof
[00:13:28] < DA|ES-IV> you can beat the entire game and the lost chapters within a day if you want
[00:13:44] < DA|ES-IV> but a game like oblivion.... bwahahaha... I've been playing it for about 30+ hours this week
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[00:13:52] < MetalRand> Is there a graphical GTK2 theme editor?
[00:14:08] < DA|ES-IV> and I haven't even touched the main quest at all
[00:14:13] < tr1p1ea> O_o
[00:14:49] < MetalRand> I've been Googling for one for the last hour, and can't find one.
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[00:18:46] < Netham46> yea, it took me just over 9 hours to beat fable
[00:18:51] < Netham46> don't have lost chapters
[00:19:11] < Netham46> I'm prolly going to get an Xbox360 for Fable 2
[00:19:12] < DA|ES-IV> lost chapters is about 2-3 hours more
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[00:19:40] < Netham46> ah, so you could very easily do that in a day
[00:19:58] < MetalRand> BrandonW, where can I download your MirageOS, since the topic says 'made' and not 'is making'?
[00:20:23] < TheStorm> he won't give it to you
[00:20:30] < TheStorm> so give up
[00:21:12] < millinao> fable is pretty short
[00:21:18] < millinao> but I didn't do the extra stuff
[00:21:28] < MetalRand> TheStorm, not the source code.
[00:21:29] < Netham46> MetalRand, promise him to leave #tcpa for 1 week and he might give it to you.
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[00:22:00] < Netham46> >.>
[00:22:24] < TheStorm> it was a beta version that he disassembled and then reassembled
[00:22:32] < TheStorm> :( he left
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[00:23:11] < Spengo\__> du duuu dududu
[00:23:12] < Spengo\__> bananagun
[00:23:14] < Spengo\__> du dudu du
[00:23:15] < Spengo\__> bananagun
[00:23:18] < Netham46> =<
[00:23:25] < Netham46> http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/ is down.
[00:23:28] < Spengo\__> \o/
[00:23:28] < Netham46> *tear*
[00:23:31] < Spengo\__> :O
[00:23:57] < Netham46> yea, spengo.
[00:24:02] < Netham46> 'tis a sad affair.
[00:24:10] < Netham46> :P
[00:24:40] < Spengo\__> (.Y.) ascii boobies to cheer you up
[00:24:52] < Netham46> 8===)
[00:24:54] < Netham46> :P
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[00:25:26] < Spengo\__> alol
[00:26:50] < Spengo\__> lol, there's a /. article on how the internet supports suicide
[00:26:54] * MetalRand goes away to look for a comprehensive guide to makeing GTK2 themes.
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[00:27:34] < BrandonW> Stupid computer...I could see what people were saying, but I couldn't click in the window.
[00:27:36] < BrandonW> Not in any window.
[00:27:55] < BrandonW> Randomist, by "made a build" I mean I got it in ZDS...it's no different at all from the public MirageOS.
[00:28:00] < BrandonW> I haven't even begun to make modifications to it.
[00:28:06] < MetalRand> Oh.
[00:28:08] < BrandonW> I have to finish with the build before I can even change one line.
[00:29:45] <+tifreak> brandon, if you compare that 24 second clip to "The Siege, Part 2" It sounds identical.. At least to me..
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[00:31:00] < BrandonW> There was a 24 second alarm with no talking in The Siege Part 2?
[00:31:18] < tr1p1ea> BrandonW: Change the credits and release it as your own
[00:31:33] < BrandonW> That's what I'm saying, they took a small clip and looped it, and that small clip had a separate sound effect or music or talking or something and I can still hear that when it loops.
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[00:31:39] < BrandonW> tr1p1ea, why would I do such a stupid thing?
[00:31:42] < tr1p1ea> under the Hays Games Corporation and claim that longa ago Dan_E stole it from you
[00:31:58] < BrandonW> As much as you're against piracy, I'm shocked you would even joke about such a thing.
[00:32:14] < tr1p1ea> maybe hays games is before your time
[00:32:22] < BrandonW> No, it's not.
[00:32:53] <+tifreak> i dont know brandon, it seems like someone created it, or took and cleaned it of other noise..
[00:34:21] < tr1p1ea> i dont often find myself in a situation where i wake up at a girls house ...
[00:34:30] < tr1p1ea> and have to taxi home
[00:34:30] <+tifreak> lol
[00:35:17] < tr1p1ea> BUT its far better than having a girl wake up at your house who doesnt want to go home
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[00:36:14] <+tifreak> true that ;)
[00:37:32] < tr1p1ea> but that, well for me at least, like never really happens often at all thank god :)
[00:40:14] <+tifreak> lol
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[00:46:35] < tr1p1ea> glk1: Have you ever written a videogame before (for a calculator or PC)?
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[00:57:37] < Cricket_B> back
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[00:57:58] < Cricket_B> Com125's join spamming?
[00:58:22] <+chronomex> Cricket_B: isn't he your friend
[00:58:23] <+chronomex> ?
[00:58:33] < tr1p1ea> ruffles
[00:58:38] < tr1p1ea> he has router prob
[00:58:40] < tr1p1ea> 's
[00:58:42] < tr1p1ea> +3
[00:58:58] <+chronomex> tr1p1ea: .... I'm confused
[00:59:58] < tr1p1ea> as am i
[01:00:24] < tr1p1ea> im pretty sure com125 has a crappy connection
[01:00:47] < Cricket_B> How do I uncompile a DLL?
[01:00:57] <+chronomex> ok
[01:00:58] < BrandonW> Why would you want to?
[01:01:13] < Cricket_B> Find out how to use TIUSB.DLL
[01:01:18] < tr1p1ea> depends what kind of dll it is
[01:01:22] < Cricket_B> The Read and Write functions
[01:01:36] <+chronomex> I'm sure you can find a decompiler on google
[01:01:53] <+chronomex> !google decompile
[01:01:54] < BrandonW> Why would you need to decompile it to find out what those two things do? Why don't you just try?
[01:02:17] < BrandonW> Even if you did decompile it, it's unlikely you'd understand what you saw.
[01:02:25] < Cricket_B> http://www.live.com?q=DLL%20Decompiler
[01:02:43] <+tifreak> "Click here to become an online rebate processor" <- lulz
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[01:02:45] <+chronomex> live search? you ARE a 'tard
[01:02:57] < Cricket_B> I use Live for everything...
[01:03:13] < Cricket_B> My E-Mail: Cricket_Lover@Live.com
[01:03:22] < Cricket_B> Also my Windows Live ID
[01:04:59] < Cricket_B> Anyone want to recommend a decompiler?
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[01:05:11] < Cricket_B> Apparently you don't...
[01:05:14] <+tifreak> Think I will try to get some more sprites done for pokemon...
[01:05:59] <+chronomex> Cricket_B: decompilers are very hard to get working
[01:06:08] < Cricket_B> So what?
[01:06:14] <+chronomex> as in it's probably a NP problem
[01:06:18] < BrandonW> Cricket_B, why don't you just try to use the functions first?
[01:06:22] < Cricket_B> I think my VB6 tools might have one...
[01:07:04] < Cricket_B> BrandonW, I have no idea what cb or pcbWritten are supposed to be (boh Long)
[01:07:04] <+chronomex> probably not
[01:07:11] < Cricket_B> *both
[01:07:48] <+chronomex> pcbWritten es a apointer to the count of bytes actually written
[01:07:48] <+chronomex> learn to read Hundarian notation
[01:07:59] <+chronomex> *Hungarian
[01:08:07] <+chronomex> cb is count of bytes you want it to write
[01:08:09] < Cricket_B> What does pcb mean?
[01:08:14] <+chronomex> pointer to count of bytes
[01:08:26] < Cricket_B> How do I get the pointer?
[01:08:48] < BrandonW> You do know VB6, right?
[01:08:55] < Cricket_B> Yeah...
[01:08:55] <+chronomex> live search for "hungngarian notatnion" and read about it
[01:09:00] < BrandonW> Pass it a pointer to a number.
[01:09:23] < Cricket_B> Please correct your spelling then put http://www.live.com?q= at the beginning
[01:09:52] < Cricket_B> What about pv (Byte)
[01:10:42] < BrandonW> Why don't you give us the whole line of how to use that function?
[01:10:45] < BrandonW> And then we'll tell you what it all means.
[01:10:48] <+chronomex> Cricket_B: fuck no I will not linkify for you
[01:11:12] < Cricket_B> Sub Read(pv As Byte, cb As Long, pcbRead As Long)
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[01:11:32] < Cricket_B> (declatation line)
[01:11:39] < Cricket_B> *declaration
[01:12:04] < BrandonW> I would say the first is a pointer to a buffer of bytes to read into, the second is the number of bytes you want to read, and the third is a pointer to a number of how many bytes were actually read.
[01:12:24] < Cricket_B> The first is a byte, not a long integer, however
[01:13:00] < BrandonW> Right, "a pointer to a buffer of bytes to read into."
[01:13:08] <+chronomex> Cricket_B: http://lispurl.com/cdadaadaaaaddr
[01:13:17] <+chronomex> there, linkified for you
[01:13:33] < Cricket_B> I don't thing a 'byte' can be a pointer, like a 'long'
[01:13:50] < Cricket_B> I believe Long data type is 2 bytes long
[01:14:06] < BrandonW> I didn't say a byte, I said a pointer TO bytes.
[01:14:53] < Cricket_B> Pointers, I believe, have to be the LONG data type (2 bytes)
[01:15:02] < BrandonW> That's nonsense.
[01:15:07] < BrandonW> A pointer can point to anything you want.
[01:15:27] < Cricket_B> Well, the computer has address ????:????
[01:15:33] < Cricket_B> ? is a hex digit
[01:15:55] < BrandonW> That's not how you read that line...it says a pointer to one or more bytes.
[01:15:56] < Cricket_B> Wait...is it 4 bytes???
[01:15:58] < BrandonW> Read on VB6.
[01:15:59] < Ox41> chronomex: great song :D
[01:16:01] < BrandonW> And how pointers work.
[01:16:20] <+chronomex> it's an array of pointersbytes
[01:16:21] < Cricket_B> No, Read in the TalkTI TIUSB.DLL file
[01:16:45] < BrandonW> I'm sure the actual pointer is 4 or 8 bytes, yes, but you're not interpreting that line correctly. It's not saying to pass it a 4 byte pointer, it's saying pass it a pointer which points to bytes.
[01:17:03] < Cricket_B> Where did you get that from?
[01:17:09] < Cricket_B> There's no documentation
[01:17:13] < BrandonW> Just like the third argument, that's not saying a Long, it says a pointer TO a Long.
[01:17:19] < BrandonW> This is basic VB6...
[01:17:24] < BrandonW> Not even related to the SDK.
[01:17:36] < Cricket_B> Well, I didn't know all of that...
[01:17:44] < Cricket_B> Guess it's not basic basic
[01:17:52] < Cricket_B> :D
[01:18:27] <+chronomex> Ox41: isn't it? :)
[01:19:09] < Cricket_B> Wouldn't pv be an array of bytes?
[01:19:18] < Cricket_B> Or at least what it points to?
[01:19:37] <+chronomex> it's a pointer to the VALUE
[01:19:44] < Cricket_B> ?
[01:19:49] < BrandonW> That's probably right, yes, Cricket_B.
[01:19:59] < BrandonW> The pcb thing is a pointer to that value.
[01:19:59] < Cricket_B> It points to an array of bytes?
[01:20:11] < BrandonW> I don't know VB6, but that's how I would interpret it, yes.
[01:20:16] < BrandonW> How you declare that in VB6, I don't know.
[01:21:04] < Cricket_B> How do I get the pointer?
[01:21:37] < BrandonW> Read how pointers work in VB6, because I can't tell you.
[01:21:38] < Cricket_B> Oh wait, I included a module which can get the pointer...
[01:21:47] < Cricket_B> I forgot
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[01:31:19] < Cricket_B> Maby I should declare pv to be a variant
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[01:32:44] < Cricket_B> Who thinks that's OK?
[01:33:41] < BrandonW> Try...it...
[01:33:43] < BrandonW> And see what happens.
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[01:38:09] < prime38> ho
[01:38:27] < prime38> and that wasnt a typo
[01:38:34] < prime38> i mean ho and is yo-ho
[01:38:34] < Cricket_B> You are not 1/3 of Santa
[01:38:46] < prime38> *as in yo-ho
[01:39:12] <+Nikky> Cricket_B: Everything someone does as an op does not automatically mean it's "abuse"
[01:39:38] < prime38> got kicked for your awful connection again?
[01:40:50] < prime38> lololol
[01:40:52] < prime38> i love fox news
[01:40:56] <+Nikky> It
[01:40:57] < prime38> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,350916,00.html
[01:41:01] <+Nikky> it's the great
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[01:41:26] < Com125> :/
[01:41:30] <+chronomex> prime38: no, E-J demonstrated +m
[01:41:38] < prime38> ohhh
[01:42:01] < prime38> right, its Com125 that has the bad connection
[01:42:22] < Com125> yeah
[01:42:33] < prime38> in all seriousness, i do like fox news, and its probably what i will have on tv if i am watching news
[01:42:43] < Cricket_B> Errors out if it's a variant...
[01:42:55] < Cricket_B> I will try an array of bytes
[01:43:33] < Cricket_B> That also causes an error...
[01:43:40] < prime38> so i bought some cheapo AA batteries today, and there is information on what to do if you eat one on the back side of the packaging
[01:44:39] <+chronomex> what happens? do you start steaming?
[01:45:14] <+chronomex> I must say that I've always wondered.
[01:45:26] < prime38> it doesnt say what will happen
[01:45:40] < prime38> just to see a doctor
[01:45:48] < prime38> and have him call a phone number
[01:46:04] < prime38> lol
[01:46:10] < prime38> it says have him call collect
[01:47:07] <+chronomex> you can still do that?
[01:48:06] < prime38> why would it have changed?
[01:48:21] < Cricket_B> Any other ideas about bp?
[01:48:34] < BrandonW> Where was bp?
[01:48:36] < prime38> im calling 1800collect now
[01:48:40] < prime38> it work...
[01:48:45] < prime38> *works
[01:48:48] < Cricket_B> What do you mean?
[01:48:56] < prime38> MCI still does it
[01:48:59] < BrandonW> I don't see where "bp" was in the line you pasted.
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[01:49:10] < Cricket_B> I think it was bp...
[01:49:27] < Cricket_B> Srry, pv
[01:49:29] < prime38> ohh verizon bought up MCI
[01:49:58] <+chronomex> yeah
[01:50:11] < prime38> i missed that merger
[01:50:18] <+chronomex> verizon is like microsoft of telephony
[01:50:21] < Cricket_B> pv has to be a byte. It doesn't work as either an array (?) or a varient.
[01:50:28] <+chronomex> they buy everyone and they suck too
[01:50:37] < Cricket_B> (yes, that was a byte array)
[01:50:49] < prime38> btw, i'm just letting you all know that i love captian morgan
[01:50:49] < BrandonW> Are you sure you're passing a pointer to it?
[01:51:05] < Com125> now for some good ol' DS
[01:51:11] < Cricket_B> I believe so...I used AddressFor(
[01:51:20] < BrandonW> And where is that?
[01:51:22] < Cricket_B> (it's in a system DLL?)
[01:51:50] < Cricket_B> Declare Function AddressFor Lib "apigid32.dll" Alias "agGetAddressForObject" (PassedByReference As Any) As Long
[01:52:30] < BrandonW> Is it returning an error, or is it just not compiling?
[01:52:44] < Cricket_B> It's returning an error
[01:53:25] < Cricket_B> ByRef argument type mismatch
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[01:54:19] < Cricket_B> It highlites the pv parameter
[01:54:32] < Cricket_B> (in the Write( command)
[01:54:49] < Cricket_B> *"Write("
[01:56:11] < Cricket_B> It wants a single byte, not a byte array or variant.
[01:56:18] < BrandonW> Did you actually get anything with TalkTI to work using the direct USB cable?
[01:56:27] < Cricket_B> The SendVariable
[01:56:36] < Cricket_B> Remember?
[01:56:46] < BrandonW> You used that from TalkTI and it sent a variable directly to your 84+/SE using the direct USB cable?
[01:56:50] < BrandonW> Just making sure.
[01:57:07] < prime38> so both pepsi and captain morgan were on sale today
[01:57:11] < prime38> i took that as a sign
[01:58:35] < Cricket_B> Let me /msg you a log cutout
[01:58:39] < Cricket_B> Is it OK?
[01:58:49] < BrandonW> No, just answer my damn question.
[01:58:52] < BrandonW> I don't want to see logs.
[01:58:54] < BrandonW> I want to see yes or no.
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[01:59:07] <@efneTI86> [Netham46] netham45 netham45 netham45 nethaERROR STACK OVERFLOW
[01:59:08] < Cricket_B> Yes, I was able to use TalkTI with the calc via Direct USB
[01:59:16] < BrandonW> Okay, that's all I needed.
[01:59:23] < Cricket_B> Netham46, fix your infoline
[01:59:28] < Cricket_B> Please
[01:59:38] < BrandonW> I'm looking at the TalkTI documentation and it says ISeqStream::Read and Write are only used wit hthe gray and black cables.
[01:59:42] < Netham46> Cricket_B, die
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[01:59:43] < Netham46> Please
[01:59:43] < BrandonW> Are you sure these can even work for you?
[01:59:47] < prime38> lol
[01:59:53] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v aksnowman] by efneTI80
[01:59:58] < prime38> fight fight fight
[02:00:04] < Netham46> heya aksnowman
[02:00:12] <+chronomex> Cricket_B: why do you seem to think that you're a valuable member of the community?
[02:00:19] < Cricket_B> The TalkTI docs were written before the USB compatability was introduced.
[02:00:36] < prime38> ohh man
[02:00:36] < Cricket_B> What I'm referencing was from TI CONNECT, not the SDK
[02:00:38] < BrandonW> Shut up, chronomex...you can't criticize someone for trying to work on something.
[02:00:52] < prime38> fight fight fight
[02:00:59] < Cricket_B> The information from the SDK gets carried over to the USB version
[02:01:13] < BrandonW> I know SendVariable and stuff like that works for direct USB, it's just that the documentation explicitly says only those two cables for Read and Write.
[02:01:23] < Cricket_B> What page?
[02:01:32] < Cricket_B> (name of HTML file)
[02:01:33] < BrandonW> \Pages\ISeqStream.html
[02:01:35] <+chronomex> BrandonW: no, I'm talking about the comment to Netham46 pleading to fix the infoline
[02:01:44] < Netham46> BrandonW, but he can criticize him for telling me what to do. He's below even me.
[02:01:54] < Cricket_B> Hold on...let me open it...
[02:02:04] < BrandonW> chronomex, are you honestly saying you have to be a valuable member of the community before you can tell someone to fix their infoline?
[02:02:04] <+aksnowman> hey Netham46
[02:02:12] < BrandonW> Netham46, everyone gets to tell you what to do.
[02:02:19] <+chronomex> BrandonW: no, I'm not saying that
[02:02:32] <+chronomex> but I'm saying that it seems that Cricket_B has delusions that we like him
[02:02:36] <+chronomex> *I
[02:02:52] <+chronomex> that _I_ like him
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[02:02:58] <+chronomex> there, I'm only speaking for myself
[02:03:00] < BrandonW> I think we all know you don't ilke him.
[02:03:08] <+chronomex> cool :)
[02:03:13] < Cricket_B> ISeqStream is the standard interface of each Stream component. There are currently two stream components:
[02:03:14] < Cricket_B> last update: 28 September 2000
[02:03:19] < Netham46> BrandonW, I seem to rembember you making condesending comments towards him too.
[02:03:31] < Cricket_B> It doesn't mention the USB.DLL file...
[02:03:40] < Cricket_B> None of the doc does
[02:03:47] < Cricket_B> It doesn't even come with it
[02:03:52] < prime38> we need to all get in a ring and fight each other
[02:04:01] <+chronomex> prime38: wait for the meetup in July
[02:04:05] < prime38> settle our differences like men
[02:04:12] < Netham46> chronomex, where is that?
[02:04:12] < prime38> el
[02:04:19] < Cricket_B> #boxing_ring
[02:04:20] <+chronomex> on a train from Seattle to NYC
[02:04:25] < Cricket_B> I'm referee
[02:04:33] < Netham46> no, you're an idiot.
[02:04:36] < prime38> no one join that channel
[02:04:43] < prime38> let him rot alone in it
[02:04:54] < Cricket_B> It doesn't matter...
[02:05:57] < Cricket_B> Netham46 won fight 1
[02:06:10] < Cricket_B> Netham46 vs. Netbot
[02:06:20] < Netham46> you're a fucking moron.
[02:06:21] < Cricket_B> *Netbot45
[02:07:25] < Cricket_B> Well, the parameters for Read( and Write( should be the same for the USB and the TI-GRAPHLINKs
[02:07:40] < Netham46> that's a bold assumption.
[02:08:01] <+aksnowman> 46 > 45, of course he won...
[02:08:08] < Cricket_B> LOL
[02:08:09] < BrandonW> I would use it myself, but apparently explorer crashes whenever I install it, so I guess that's out for me.
[02:08:13] < Netham46> aksnowman, don't encourage me.
[02:08:16] < Netham46> erm
[02:08:17] < Netham46> him
[02:08:19] < Netham46> *
[02:08:20] < Cricket_B> BrandonW: ???
[02:08:27] < Netham46> < needs sleep
[02:08:28] < Cricket_B> Install it?
[02:08:30] < BrandonW> I'm talking about Talk TI.
[02:08:35] < MetalRand> Since it looks like Cricket_B's taken over the channel torture shift, looks like I'll go do some fine reading...
[02:08:46] < Cricket_B> WDYM?
[02:08:56] < BrandonW> Stop using acronyms...I don't know what WDYM is.
[02:09:01] < Netham46> WWJD?
[02:09:05] < prime38> IDK my BFF jill?
[02:09:06] < Cricket_B> What Do You Mean?
[02:09:06] < Netham46> he'd ban your stupid ass
[02:09:33] < BrandonW> What do you think I mean? When I install TalkTI, explorer crashes in a loop over and over until I uninstall it. I don't understand it, but that's the way it is.
[02:09:54] < Cricket_B> Wait, the SDK or TI-CONNECT?
[02:10:21] * MetalRand notes the correct spelling of 'acronym' for future refrence.
[02:10:33] < Cricket_B> What was that word?
[02:10:42] * Netham46 notes that Cricket_B is a moron, for future reference
[02:10:43] < BrandonW> The SDK.
[02:10:46] < prime38> omg omg this is even better when watching it while drinking captain http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2q1bmK34EI
[02:10:54] < Cricket_B> (you misspelled 'Reference')
[02:11:11] < BrandonW> prime38, no one cares that you're drunk.
[02:11:15] < BrandonW> Go find someone else to be proud of it with.
[02:11:17] < BrandonW> Honestly.
[02:11:33] < Cricket_B> BrandonW, you don't need to install the SDK to use TalkTI...
[02:11:40] < Cricket_B> Only TI_CONNECT
[02:11:51] < prime38> im not drunk
[02:12:01] < MetalRand> Yet? :P
[02:12:02] < Netham46> drinking != drunk
[02:12:09] < Cricket_B> That screenshot of those TalkTI DLLs were from before I installed TalkTI
[02:12:09] < BrandonW> Drinking, then, whatever.
[02:12:27] < BrandonW> My point is that I can't install the SDK.
[02:12:28] < BrandonW> That's all.
[02:12:41] < Cricket_B> YOu don't need the SDK, just the reference material.
[02:12:59] < BrandonW> Okay...
[02:13:01] < BrandonW> All things I know.
[02:13:02] < Cricket_B> The SDK is just the DLLs + reference material
[02:13:20] < Netham46> int BAL=0;while(drinking && BAL < 8){BAL++;}System.out.println("Drunk");
[02:13:20] < Cricket_B> TI-CONNECT is the DLLs + connectivity software
[02:13:55] < Cricket_B> Dringk 8 times to become drunk???
[02:13:59] < Cricket_B> *Drink
[02:14:41] < Cricket_B> BrandonW, what do I pass to pv?
[02:14:48] < BrandonW> I. Do. Not. Know.
[02:14:50] < Cricket_B> Do you know?
[02:14:58] < Cricket_B> :(
[02:14:58] < BrandonW> That's the last time I'm going to tell you.
[02:15:34] < Cricket_B> Do you think an ASM decompile would help figure it out?
[02:16:28] < Cricket_B> I'll open it in DEBUG
[02:16:43] < BrandonW> No, I don't.
[02:16:44] < prime38> ascii stupis question get a stupid ansi
[02:16:48] < prime38> *stupid
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[02:21:42] <+aksnowman> prime38: lol
[02:21:56] < Cricket_B> http://www.live.com?q=TalkTI%20Read%20Write
[02:22:28] < Cricket_B> ...
[02:23:46] < Cricket_B> You know Netham46's last line?
[02:23:52] < Cricket_B> What language was that?
[02:24:02] < Netham46> java.
[02:24:23] < Cricket_B> No, it was English
[02:24:35] < Cricket_B> His last line was English
[02:24:48] < Netham46> jesus fucking christ, someone ban him!
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[02:27:07] < Cricket_B> Should I e-mail TI?
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[02:27:20] < BrandonW> It's worth a shot.
[02:28:57] < MetalRand> You shoot them, they'll shoot you back?
[02:28:58] < Cricket_B> TI Cares or TI Tech Support?
[02:31:16] < Netham46> MetalRand, if Cricket_B's e-mailing them, hopefully.
[02:31:33] < BrandonW> ti-cares@ti.com is the only address you have.
[02:31:38] < BrandonW> They'll forward it to the right people, hopefully.
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[02:38:21] * Netham46 pokes aardvarq
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[02:40:18] * Ox41 pokes /you
[02:40:36] < Netham46> the quote website is down. :(
[02:40:43] < Ox41> :(
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[02:41:46] < Netham46> Ox41, do you repent
[02:41:49] < Netham46> when you delete files?
[02:41:58] * Netham46 stabs his enter key
[02:42:41] <+Nikky> Netham46: Two clients?
[02:42:48] < Cricket_B> Sent the E-mail
[02:42:53] < Cricket_B> Now, I must depart
[02:43:01] < Cricket_B> (for now)
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[02:46:32] < Netham46> GAY PRIDE!!!!!!
[02:46:35] < Netham46> \o/
[02:46:48] < BrandonW> !k Netham46
[02:46:48] -!- Netham46 was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [BrandonW]
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[02:46:56] < BrandonW> Idiot...
[02:46:59] < Netham46> hater
[02:47:03] < Netham46> homophobic hater
[02:47:04] < BrandonW> Of colors.
[02:48:36] < Netham46> you're still a hater.
[02:49:03] < BrandonW> You're an idiot...don't even try turning this into a gay debate, I kicked you because you used colors when you knew better.
[02:49:42] < Netham46> based on prior confrontations, I find it hard to believe that you honestly think I know anything.
[02:50:00] < Netham46> you just kicked me because you could,.
[02:50:21] < BrandonW> I kicked you because I had a good reason to. And yes, I do think you know what few rules there are here and enjoy breaking them.
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[02:51:35] * Netham46 pokes nikky
[02:52:52] < Ox41> Oh shut it Netham45.
[02:52:56] < Ox41> s/5/6/
[02:53:49] < Ox41> That's the whole "You didn't hire me because I'm black!" / "No, I didn't hire you because you are an ex-con who was convicted of x/y/and z."
[02:53:49] < Netham46> hater
[02:54:04] < Netham46> gay, you insensitive prick.
[02:54:05] <+chronomex> Ox41: when did you increment?
[02:54:10] < Ox41> No, I'm not a hater. I am just not a complete idiot like you.
[02:54:18] < Ox41> chronomex: hehehe I said something funny once.
[02:54:21] < Ox41> Ox40++;
[02:54:22] < Netham46> quite a bold statement.
[02:54:23] < Ox41> :D
[02:54:24] <+chronomex> lol ok
[02:54:58] < Ox41> Actually, when my client goes down then gets a ghost, Ox41/Ox42 etc are my 'alternate nicknames'
[02:58:13] < Ox41> Ox41.Sleep();
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[03:00:27] < Netham46> Ox40.removeFromCanvas();
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[03:06:36] < Ox3F> Netham45: WTF kind of language is that?
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[03:06:47] < Netham46> java, you fool.
[03:07:01] < Ox3F> Actually... you phail
[03:07:08] < Netham46> with objectdraw, too.
[03:07:17] < Ox3F> SYNTAX ERROR: Uknown Object 'Ox40'
[03:07:19] < Ox3F> ')
[03:08:05] < Netham46> Ox3F++;
[03:08:06] < Netham46> Ox40.removeFromCanvas();
[03:08:27] < Netham46> Ox40++; *** Ox41 changed nick to Ox3F
[03:08:29] < Netham46> that's fail too.
[03:08:55] < Ox3F> SYNTAX ERROR: The current process does not have the proper permissions to increment 'Ox3F'
[03:09:13] < Ox3F> Netham45: those events happened like... 3 minutes apart
[03:09:13] <+chronomex> dude, you can't change a name
[03:09:13] < Netham46> Ox3F.Sleep();
[03:09:20] <+chronomex> 0x40 = 0x3F
[03:09:21] <+chronomex> there, fixed
[03:09:31] < Netham46> you missed your ;
[03:09:36] <+chronomex> no I didn't
[03:09:41] < Ox3F> chronomex: SYNTAX ERROR. Uknown object '0x3F'
[03:09:50] <+chronomex> eep
[03:09:53] <+chronomex> wtfever
[03:09:55] < Ox3F> ;)
[03:10:23] < Ox3F> $this->options->beNeedlesslyDifficult = true;
[03:10:27] < Netham46> fine, Ox3F, public void spamfloodfun(){while(1){spamfloodfun();}}
[03:10:37] < Ox3F> Netham45.... nope
[03:10:39] < Netham46> no permissions needed, and it should crash you.
[03:10:51] < Netham46> or make you slower, if that's possible.
[03:10:56] < Ox3F> haha
[03:11:06] < Ox3F> Netham46++;
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[03:11:40] < Netham46> :P
[03:12:09] < Ox3F> Seems that you are the slow one.
[03:12:24] < Ox3F> 34 seconds to respond... and....
[03:12:30] < Ox3F> ok, im done
[03:12:33] < Ox3F> good night all
[03:12:41] < Ox3F> and too all a good... cheer.?
[03:12:59] <+chronomex> ok
[03:15:57] < Netham46> Ox3F, this is a laggy connection
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[03:16:13] < Netham46> well, lag+afk.
[03:16:27] * Netham46 throws a potato at Ox3F
[03:16:36] < Netham46> you know the saying, when life gives you potatoes, make vodka.
[03:16:38] <+chronomex> ooh potato battery time
[03:17:09] < Netham46> >.>
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[03:21:34] < prime38> hahah
[03:21:37] < prime38> vodka
[03:22:08] < prime38> although vodka is a much better use of potatos than batteries
[03:22:15] <+chronomex> bad
[03:22:17] <+chronomex> bah
[03:23:44] < Barrett> does anyone know any good (and clean) jokes about finals?
[03:26:07] <+Nikky> Netham46: Don't do those colors again.
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[03:26:15] <+Nikky> And don't bitch when BrandonW kicks you
[03:26:18] <+Nikky> because it was justified and you know it
[03:26:28] < prime38> F.I.N.A.L.S = fuck i never actually learned this shit
[03:27:05] <+chronomex> fooey
[03:27:12] < prime38> ts true and you know it
[03:27:43] < Barrett> how is this one? http://pages.videotron.com/garrick/jokes/finalexam.html
[03:28:40] < prime38> that professor is an asshole
[03:29:26] < prime38> who would actually remember which tire anyways, except for the person changing it... maybe
[03:30:49] < Netham46> http://bash.org/?485109 XD XD XD XD XD
[03:31:29] < prime38> that isnt even funny
[03:31:32] < prime38> i dont get it
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[03:32:56] < Netham46> that's hilarious
[03:32:56] < Com125> Yeah, they're evil.
[03:33:40] < prime38> why is it funny
[03:34:09] < prime38> maybe if there was some alliteration in his final statement
[03:34:14] < prime38> but there isnt
[03:35:21] < prime38> i seriously don't get why it's funny
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[03:37:17] < prime38> damn it com125
[03:37:25] < prime38> i dont belive this is your ISPs fault
[03:37:35] < prime38> i think you are on some wireless router or something
[03:38:14] < prime38> and you keep getting droppes for some reason or another
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[03:45:13] < prime38> damn
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[03:45:36] < prime38> dnsstuff.com has really changed over the last 6 months or so
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[03:49:50] < BrandonW> You told him all that stuff AFTER he quit?
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[03:51:00] <@efneTI86> [Merthsoft] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
[03:51:10] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Merthsoft] by efneTI85
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[03:51:40] < prime38> hi Merthsoft
[03:51:53] < prime38> BrandonW: it was more toward the whole channel
[03:51:54] <+Merthsoft> yo
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[03:56:49] <+chronomex> !seen swtaarrs
[03:56:50] <@efneTI86> swtaarrs (~swtaarrs@c-66-30-180-58.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) was last seen quitting from #tcpa 1 year, 140 days, 23 hours, 8 minutes ago stating (Quit: Quit).
[03:56:55] <+chronomex> oh my
[03:57:25] < prime38> i can beat you chronomex
[03:57:34] < prime38> !seen icy2k
[03:57:35] <@efneTI86> prime38, icy2k was last seen on #waferbaby 5 years, 17 days, 8 hours, 51 minutes ago.
[03:57:40] < prime38> i win
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[03:58:23] < Netham46> !seen bomberman
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[03:58:59] <+Nikky> ?
[03:59:07] < prime38> wtf is going on
[03:59:13] <+Merthsoft> who the fuck knows
[03:59:23] < Netham46> grow up.
[03:59:28] <+chronomex> prime38: yeah, but I wasn't trying to win
[03:59:34] <+Nikky> Yes, you should
[03:59:41] <+Merthsoft> seriously, Merthsoft, what the fuck's wrong with you
[03:59:43] <+chronomex> !stab Nikky
[03:59:46] < prime38> haha
[03:59:55] <+chronomex> Merthsoft: poisoning the !seen ?
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[03:59:59] <+chronomex> !seen bomberman
[03:59:59] <+Merthsoft> be more like Netham46, mature and everything
[04:00:01] <@efneTI86> I found 24 matches to your query. Here are the 5 most recent (sorted): Merthsoft bomberman swtaarrs icy2k Merth. Merthsoft (~Shaun@140.141.22.125) was last seen changing nicks from bomberman on #tcpa 1 minute ago. Merthsoft is still there.
[04:00:10] <+chronomex> !seen swtaarrs
[04:00:13] <@efneTI86> I found 24 matches to your query. Here are the 5 most recent (sorted): Merthsoft bomberman swtaarrs icy2k Merth. Merthsoft (~Shaun@140.141.22.125) was last seen changing nicks from bomberman on #tcpa 1 minute ago. Merthsoft is still there.
[04:00:15] <+chronomex> !notthatone
[04:00:17] < prime38> !seen icy2k
[04:00:19] <@efneTI86> I found 24 matches to your query. Here are the 5 most recent (sorted): Merthsoft bomberman swtaarrs icy2k Merth. Merthsoft (~Shaun@140.141.22.125) was last seen changing nicks from bomberman on #tcpa 1 minute ago. Merthsoft is still there.
[04:00:21] <+chronomex> grrr
[04:00:36] <+Merthsoft> hahaha
[04:00:37] <+Merthsoft> i win
[04:00:39] < prime38> damn it Merthsoft
[04:00:50] < prime38> if i was jack bauer i would kill you
[04:00:59] -!- Merthsoft is now known as notthaton
[04:01:07] < prime38> btw, where the hell is my 24
[04:01:17] < prime38> and lost
[04:01:21] < prime38> and prison break
[04:01:24] <+notthaton> i should change my name everytime someone does !seen
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[04:01:34] < Netham46> do it
[04:01:37] < Netham46> I want to see you banned!
[04:01:49] <+notthaton> i'll get warned before i get banned
[04:01:59] <+notthaton> the people here like me
[04:02:10] < Com125> no we don't :)
[04:02:18] < Netham46> Merthsoft Ox40 Randomist Netham45 MORN
[04:02:20] <+notthaton> the people here who matter like me
[04:02:32] < Netham46> i_c-Y, Merthsoft says you don't matter.
[04:02:55] <+notthaton> i_c-Y himself said he just threw me into that acronym, on real purpose
[04:03:18] <+notthaton> no real purpose*
[04:03:29] < Netham46> lol
[04:03:32] < Netham46> on purpose is more like that
[04:03:35] -!- notthaton is now known as Merthsoft
[04:03:42] <+Merthsoft> Nikky: Wanna unban me from calcgames?
[04:03:58] < prime38> lol
[04:04:06] <+chronomex> haha http://qdb.us/1735
[04:04:10] < prime38> i'm about to ban you here
[04:04:33] <+Merthsoft> i'm so scared
[04:04:37] <+Nikky> k
[04:04:40] <+Merthsoft> thanks
[04:04:44] <+Nikky> np
[04:06:24] * Nikky banzorz Merthsoft
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[04:06:40] <+chronomex> what is this, some sort of thrill ride?
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[04:06:51] <+Nikky> dang
[04:06:55] <+Nikky> foiled again
[04:06:59] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Merthsoft] by efneTI89
[04:07:07] * Merthsoft wins
[04:11:32] * Nikky kicks Merthsoft
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[04:26:28] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] Hail to the king baby!
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[04:29:26] <+Nikky> okay Com125
[04:29:27] <+Nikky> seriously
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[04:53:57] < Cricket_B> Back now
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[05:10:10] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk_] Hail to the king baby!
[05:11:08] < Sir_Lewk_> wtf
[05:11:35] < Sir_Lewk> gah
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[05:11:45] < Cricket_B> LOL
[05:11:52] < Sir_Lewk> die Sir_Lewk_
[05:12:16] < BrandonW> die Sir_Lewk
[05:12:20] < Cricket_B> LOL
[05:12:20] < Sir_Lewk> the bad part about having 16 desktops is sometimes you lose windows :P
[05:12:26] < Cricket_B> LOL
[05:12:49] < BrandonW> I know "lol" is technically an acronym, but seeing LOL doesn't look right.
[05:12:54] < Cricket_B> LOL
[05:13:13] < BrandonW> It's a little disturbing you found that funny.
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[05:14:06] < Sir_Lewk> lol@brandonw.com
[05:14:35] < BrandonW> What's there?
[05:14:43] < Sir_Lewk> brandonw.com?
[05:14:45] < Sir_Lewk> dunno
[05:14:55] < BrandonW> I thought you were saying there was something funny there.
[05:14:55] < Sir_Lewk> just made that up
[05:15:02] < Sir_Lewk> oh, no
[05:15:37] < Sir_Lewk> it's my creative use of the "@" symbol, lol'ing at you, including the .com to make it a email address for kicks
[05:16:38] < Sir_Lewk> you know what is sweet about european films?
[05:16:55] < Sir_Lewk> don't really have to worry about the mpaa :D
[05:17:07] < JamieG> why not
[05:17:07] < JamieG> ?
[05:18:21] < Sir_Lewk> if the movie people arn't signed on with the mpaa then the mpaa isn't going to do any dirty work for them
[05:18:43] < BrandonW> The MPAA will destroy you and your children no matter what.
[05:18:43] < Sir_Lewk> more "indie" movies than european movies I suppose...
[05:18:50] < Sir_Lewk> very true
[05:19:05] < Sir_Lewk> but I am also behind 7 proxies :P
[05:19:51] < BrandonW> You also have no children, but they always find a way.
[05:20:15] < Com125> lol
[05:20:59] < Sir_Lewk> meh
[05:21:13] < Sir_Lewk> I've downloaded a total of 2 movies in the past year
[05:21:23] < BrandonW> Pirate.
[05:21:24] < Sir_Lewk> kid down the hall from me does 3 a weekend
[05:21:42] < Sir_Lewk> I ended up buying both the movies anyways
[05:21:52] < Sir_Lewk> "Amelie" and "Trainspotting"
[05:21:58] < Sir_Lewk> highly recommend either
[05:22:40] < Cricket_B> LOL, my Desktop looks like the BSoD
[05:23:00] < Sir_Lewk> my screensaver is a slideshow of BSoDs
[05:23:28] < Cricket_B> Wait, when your screensaver starts, it looks like the BSoD?
[05:23:36] < Sir_Lewk> yes
[05:23:41] < Cricket_B> COOL!!!
[05:24:48] < BrandonW> It was about ten years ago.
[05:25:12] < Sir_Lewk> http://www.linuxcommand.org/man_pages/bsod1.html
[05:25:41] < Sir_Lewk> and yeah, it was first made in 1998 ;p
[05:26:19] < Sir_Lewk> I also love the author's website
[05:26:25] < Cricket_B> How do I get the program?
[05:26:33] < Sir_Lewk> http://www.jwz.org/
[05:26:39] < Sir_Lewk> it's a *nix screensaver
[05:26:52] < Sir_Lewk> ie, get linux
[05:30:39] <+chronomex> or BSD
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[05:31:52] < Sir_Lewk> yeah
[05:32:10] < Sir_Lewk> but if he doesn't have either yet I would normally suggest linux
[05:32:20] < Sir_Lewk> FreeBSD is nice too though
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[05:37:36] < Sir_Lewk> http://www.jwz.org/hacks/why-cooperation-with-rms-is-impossible.mp3 LMAO
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[05:38:08] < DarkAuron> !k Cricket_B "LOL" spam.
[05:38:39] < DarkAuron> !k Cricket_B "LOL" spam.
[05:38:40] -!- Cricket_B was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [DarkAuron: "LOL" spam.]
[05:38:45] < DarkAuron> I'm satisfied.
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[05:38:52] < BrandonW> Do you want to explain why you did that?
[05:38:57] < Sir_Lewk> !k DarkAuron kick abuse
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[05:39:20] < DarkAuron> 25 minutes ago he said that in 4 reptetive messages.
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[05:39:25] < DarkAuron> repetitive*
[05:39:25] < Sir_Lewk> wtfbbq
[05:39:33] < BrandonW> And that's a problem why?
[05:39:38] < DarkAuron> Annoying.
[05:39:48] < BrandonW> You don't kick because it annoys one person.
[05:39:48] < Cricket_B> ...
[05:40:18] < Sir_Lewk> k Cricket_B eclipses are the devil
[05:40:26] < DarkAuron> Never said only one person was annoyed.
[05:40:28] < Cricket_B> ...
[05:40:43] < Sir_Lewk> k Cricket_B eclipse spam
[05:40:44] < Cricket_B> Do you want me to continue?
[05:40:45] < BrandonW> You just happen to be able to read everyone else's minds?
[05:41:36] < Sir_Lewk> Cricket_B, I was excluding the "!" because I was joking ;)
[05:41:49] < Cricket_B> LOL
[05:41:58] * Sir_Lewk ducks
[05:42:06] < Cricket_B> ?
[05:42:38] < Cricket_B> Apparently, the bots love DarkAuron
[05:42:47] < Sir_Lewk> yeah
[05:42:57] < Cricket_B> You tried to kick him for a real reason
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[05:43:11] < Sir_Lewk> DarkAuron is a god
[05:43:21] < Cricket_B> They kick you with the message "Yeah, like that was ever going to happen :P
[05:43:28] < Sir_Lewk> I was foolish to challenge him and was struck down
[05:43:29] < BrandonW> Yeah, ops can't be kicked like that.
[05:43:34] < Sir_Lewk> I thiknk I know ;)
[05:43:42] <+chronomex> well you do now :)
[05:43:45] < Cricket_B> ...he has no voice, though
[05:43:51] < BrandonW> Voice means nothing.
[05:43:57] < Cricket_B> Nor op
[05:44:01] < BrandonW> That means nothing, too.
[05:44:13] < Sir_Lewk> +v is an indicator of coolness
[05:44:14] < Cricket_B> It just says DarkAuron, no +, no @
[05:44:18] <+chronomex> not in this twisted land at least
[05:44:19] < Sir_Lewk> it's implied with DarkAuron
[05:44:24] <+Merthsoft> Sir_Lewk: ellipsis, not eclipse...
[05:44:26] < BrandonW> The people with @ are just displaying their superiority because they feel like it. People with powers usually aren't automatically +v'd.
[05:44:33] <+chronomex> he's so cool he can elide sigils
[05:44:41] < Cricket_B> Sir_Lewk, if +v means you're cool, why do you have it?
[05:45:11] < Cricket_B> Wait, never mind...
[05:45:15] < Sir_Lewk> just to make you feel inferior :P
[05:45:23] < Cricket_B> I'll ask Nikky
[05:45:24] < Cricket_B> :D
[05:46:10] < Cricket_B> !qfind Lag from server
[05:46:44] < Sir_Lewk> clear
[05:46:57] < Cricket_B> ?
[05:46:58] < Sir_Lewk> grr...
[05:47:02] < Sir_Lewk> not bash
[05:47:06] <+chronomex> he has it cos he asked a bot for it
[05:47:31] < Cricket_B> !find Lag from server
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[05:47:40] < Cricket_B> *!qfind
[05:47:48] <+Merthsoft> Cricket_B: I'm pretty sure you cant qfind
[05:47:51] <+Merthsoft> !qfind lag
[05:47:52] <@efneTI86> 258:Peter_W: !bash 525930 !q 127 oops wrong channel both of us wrong channel oops lagged
[05:47:55] <@efneTI86> 695:smart: [11:44:26] Lag from server: 221 sec(s).. Hello? I probably think I'm in the middle of a conversation that ended two hours ago.
[05:47:56] < Cricket_B> I know...
[05:47:59] <@efneTI86> 125:CalcKing: !seennick spengo | [16:23:31] spengo ... | [16:23:56] Peter_W, I don't remember seeing spengo. | [16:28:54] Peter_W, Treebeard says: spengo ... | Lag anyone? :-O
[05:48:01] <@efneTI86> (All of 3 matches)
[05:48:04] < Cricket_B> Look at 695
[05:48:13] < Spengo\__> wat
[05:48:18] < Spengo\__> :|
[05:48:23] <+Merthsoft> :\
[05:48:54] < Cricket_B> How do you find your lag?
[05:49:02] <+chronomex> /ping yourself
[05:49:02] < Sir_Lewk> wait a second
[05:49:07] < Sir_Lewk> I don't have +v
[05:49:16] < Sir_Lewk> bots never gave it to me today
[05:49:20] < Cricket_B> 2 second lag...
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[05:49:42] < Spengo\__> I can make you voice if you want
[05:49:47] < Sir_Lewk> sure
[05:49:53] < Spengo\__> if 86 quits lagging
[05:49:55] < Spengo\__> oh there it goes
[05:50:14] <+chronomex> why is '86 so lousy?
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[05:50:19] < Spengo\__> thar
[05:50:21] < boxknife> I overclocked mine
[05:50:24] <+chronomex> if it's so lousy, why is it still hub?
[05:50:27] <+Sir_Lewk> wowzer
[05:50:28] < Cricket_B> ?
[05:50:32] < Spengo\__> I dunno
[05:50:36] < Spengo\__> it just is
[05:50:45] < Spengo\__> maybe it's lousy BECAUSE it's hub
[05:50:46] <+Sir_Lewk> because ti-86s are the bestest
[05:50:59] < Cricket_B> *TI-84+SEs
[05:51:03] < Spengo\__> what hells no
[05:51:03] <+Sir_Lewk> wrong
[05:51:06] < Spengo\__> 89!
[05:51:13] < Cricket_B> *84+SE
[05:51:13] <+Sir_Lewk> 89s are sexy as hell
[05:51:22] < Cricket_B> *84+SEs
[05:51:32] * Cricket_B wins
[05:51:32] < Spengo\__> patrickd would say it's the 85
[05:51:38] < Cricket_B> *84+SE
[05:51:38] <+Sir_Lewk> 89Tis suffer from a poor case design though :(
[05:51:46] < BrandonW> The 85 shall reign supreme, always and forever.
[05:51:52] < Cricket_B> *84+SE
[05:51:52] < Spengo\__> so do 84+SEs
[05:51:55] < Spengo\__> :/
[05:51:56] <+Sir_Lewk> the 85s are nice too
[05:52:05] < Cricket_B> *84+SEs
[05:52:11] <+Sir_Lewk> I've been trying to get a 86 or 85 on ebay
[05:52:11] < Spengo\__> !k Cricket_B enough already
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[05:52:26] <+Sir_Lewk> 84+SEs are nice but nothing special
[05:52:29] <+Sir_Lewk> so stfu
[05:52:40] < BrandonW> Actually, the 84+SE is the best z80 calculator you could buy.
[05:52:46] < Cricket_B> Yeah...
[05:52:47] <+chronomex> !k Cricket_B let's try that again and see if it sticks the second time around
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[05:52:51] <+Sir_Lewk> but lack the sex apeal of 86s
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[05:52:55] <+Sir_Lewk> *appeal
[05:53:04] <+chronomex> nope, let's try a ban
[05:53:12] < boxknife> I think the design of the 84+SE is kind of tacky. Same with the 89 ti.
[05:53:18] < Cricket_B> ...
[05:53:20] <+Sir_Lewk> boxknife++
[05:53:26] < BrandonW> It looks terrible, I agree, but functionality-wise...
[05:53:31] < Cricket_B> I agree about the TI-89, though
[05:53:42] <+Sir_Lewk> I've dreamed about swapping my 89Ti's case with a 89's case
[05:53:43] < Cricket_B> (bad design)
[05:53:58] < Cricket_B> Ditto, but with TI83+SE
[05:54:06] <+Sir_Lewk> eww
[05:54:09] < Cricket_B> It's translucent :D
[05:54:11] < BrandonW> You can't.
[05:54:15] <+Sir_Lewk> I know
[05:54:18] < Cricket_B> Why?
[05:54:23] < BrandonW> The PCB is too big.
[05:54:32] < Cricket_B> (I ment my 84+SE into the 83+SE
[05:54:37] < BrandonW> And you can't.
[05:54:43] < Cricket_B> PCB?
[05:54:47] < BrandonW> Printed circuit board.
[05:54:57] < Cricket_B> I know what it means...
[05:55:02] <+Sir_Lewk> *pakistan cricket board
[05:55:12] < BrandonW> The 84+SE PCB is too large to fit in the 83+SE case.
[05:55:17] < Cricket_B> OK.
[05:55:44] < Cricket_B> Well, I'd want to have my 84+SE in a translucent case.
[05:56:04] < Cricket_B> A backlight running from a 9v couldn't hurt, either...
[05:56:05] < Spengo\__> so it's extra ugly I guess?
[05:56:15] < Spengo\__> lulz
[05:56:25] < Cricket_B> No, so the case is translucent.
[05:57:03] < Cricket_B> I only could get one string glitch to work on the 84+SE
[05:57:11] < Cricket_B> :(
[05:57:31] < BrandonW> By string glitch, you mean what?
[05:57:58] < Cricket_B> The "[I]":Rcl Ans
[05:58:05] < Cricket_B> Comes up with "lcm("
[05:58:26] < Cricket_B> Matrix I != lcm(
[05:58:43] < Spengo\__> peanuts
[05:58:54] < BrandonW> That doesn't happen to me.
[05:59:02] < BrandonW> OS 2.43.
[06:00:33] <+Sir_Lewk> does this glitch have any practical uses?
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[06:00:50] * Sir_Lewk fetches his 83+
[06:00:54] < BrandonW> Empty homescreen, " token, then [2nd]+[MATRX], press enter on [I], another " token, enter, then [2nd]+[Rcl], [2nd]+[Ans], then enter? And you get "lcm("? What OS version?
[06:02:38] <+Sir_Lewk> lolwut?
[06:02:45] <+Sir_Lewk> my 83+ has 1.17
[06:02:59] <+Sir_Lewk> (I just got this one a week or two ago from some kid)
[06:03:01] < BrandonW> Until he responds, I say it's made up.
[06:03:04] < BrandonW> He's made up stuff before.
[06:03:12] <+Merthsoft> realy?
[06:03:23] < BrandonW> Yes.
[06:03:27] <+Merthsoft> like?
[06:03:47] < BrandonW> I'd have to dig through the logs.
[06:03:51] <+Merthsoft> oh, ok
[06:03:53] < boxknife> Who?
[06:03:57] <+Merthsoft> it's cool, imma go to bed
[06:04:03] <+Sir_Lewk> yeah, this didn't work on 1.17
[06:04:27] <+Merthsoft> first i'll try this on my 84
[06:04:34] < Spengo\__> Sir_Lewk, did you beat him up for it?
[06:04:45] <+Sir_Lewk> lol, no
[06:04:50] <+Sir_Lewk> he had two
[06:05:07] <+Sir_Lewk> gave one to me for helping him with various linux crap
[06:05:40] <+Merthsoft> yeah, i get "[I]"
[06:05:44] <+Sir_Lewk> same
[06:05:49] <+Merthsoft> 2.41
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[06:09:04] < boxknife> How much should the Ti-92 plus retail at? There's one in my school store for 200 USD that's been sitting there for like the last decade.
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[06:09:27] < BrandonW> It was always $200. My old college store had it for $230.
[06:09:33] < BrandonW> You can get one used for less than $60.
[06:09:39] < BrandonW> Less than 83+s.
[06:10:03] < boxknife> Hm
[06:10:26] <+Sir_Lewk> why do they cost that much more than 89s?
[06:10:44] < BrandonW> Because they're larger with larger screens and QWERTY keyboards.
[06:10:51] < BrandonW> They also come with a geometry application built-in.
[06:11:01] <+Sir_Lewk> ah, good point
[06:11:13] <+Sir_Lewk> I forgot about the screen
[06:11:23] < BrandonW> Other than that, there's no reason. Which is why you should always go 89.
[06:11:30] <+Sir_Lewk> ya
[06:13:07] < Spengo\__> why not just go all the way and get a voyage 200
[06:13:56] < Spengo\__> whoah
[06:14:02] < Spengo\__> since when have we had an efneti80
[06:14:10] < BrandonW> Because it's the same as the 92+, except it's very expensive to get used.
[06:14:11] <@DarkAuron> ...
[06:14:21] < Spengo\__> or 81?
[06:14:22] < Spengo\__> I dunno
[06:14:27] < Spengo\__> there is one more than usual
[06:14:29] < Spengo\__> o_o
[06:14:31] <@DarkAuron> spengo you notice few things
[06:14:33] < Spengo\__> and no TI30
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[06:16:38] <+Sir_Lewk> and no V400?
[06:17:34] <+chronomex> nope
[06:17:44] <+Sir_Lewk> we need a v400
[06:17:48] <+Sir_Lewk> for the lulz
[06:17:55] <+chronomex> :)
[06:18:46] <+Sir_Lewk> http://www.ticalc.org/archives/news/articles/8/85/85069.html :D
[06:21:13] < boxknife> lulz
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[06:22:12] < boxknife> I think I'd only get a 92+ to play games on
[06:22:29] < boxknife> calculator games lost a lot of their appeal to me after high school, though
[06:23:02] <+Sir_Lewk> I still play calcrogue, phoenix, and aspirin on a regular basis :D
[06:23:03] < BrandonW> I've barely touched either my 92 or 92+.
[06:23:07] < BrandonW> Or Voyage 200, for that matter.
[06:23:51] < boxknife> I've got a 89 ti, but I hardly ever use it either.
[06:24:03] < BrandonW> Me neither!
[06:24:06] * Sir_Lewk hugs his 89Ti
[06:24:30] <+Sir_Lewk> I'll never neglect you, fair calculator
[06:24:39] * mokomull hugs his 49G+
[06:24:41] < mokomull> :)
[06:24:53] < BrandonW> Traitor.
[06:24:59] <+Sir_Lewk> a friend is loaning me a 48G
[06:25:04] < glk1> I hug both of them
[06:25:05] <+Sir_Lewk> pretty cool calc
[06:25:07] < mokomull> boxknife: You in Houston?
[06:25:15] < boxknife> mokomull: Yeah
[06:25:23] < mokomull> So am I!
[06:25:33] < boxknife> Really? Cool
[06:25:59] < glk1> My url has decades of HP data http://grahamkendall.net/
[06:26:19] < BrandonW> Getting clever with the spam...
[06:26:23] <+Sir_Lewk> haha
[06:26:25] <+chronomex> glk1: yeah, I bet it's grown mold by now
[06:26:30] < boxknife> Is glk1 a bot?
[06:26:38] < BrandonW> I believe he's a real life robot, yes.
[06:26:43] < boxknife> rofl
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[06:26:51] <+Sir_Lewk> I think he has highlights for certain stuff
[06:26:52] < glk1> I am real
[06:27:01] < BrandonW> A real robot, I'm sure.
[06:27:25] <+Sir_Lewk> whether or not he is a bot depends on the turing test used ;D
[06:27:47] <+Sir_Lewk> same applies for me though...
[06:28:06] < glk1> I studied with Eliza to pass my Turing test
[06:28:12] <+Sir_Lewk> haha
[06:28:39] <+Sir_Lewk> I have an Eliza program on my 89
[06:28:57] <+Sir_Lewk> it amazed me the first time I played with one (I was 12)
[06:40:22] < glk1> Eliza said "Tell me about your calculator"
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[06:40:40] <+Sir_Lewk> haha
[06:40:55] <+Sir_Lewk> nice
[06:41:21] <@DarkAuron> sausage calzone yum
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[06:42:54] <+Sir_Lewk> I had a Italian stromboli today
[06:43:02] <+Sir_Lewk> SO good!
[06:43:10] <@DarkAuron> this bread is completely epic
[06:43:16] * DarkAuron falls into the bread
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[06:46:24] <+Sir_Lewk> Com125, fix your tubes
[06:48:45] <+Nikky> Sir_Lewk You can't kick ops.
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[06:48:56] <+Sir_Lewk> this I realized
[06:49:01] <+Nikky> and I see you guys are still picking on Cricket_B
[06:49:11] <+Sir_Lewk> actually, I realized DarkAuron is an op
[06:49:32] <+Sir_Lewk> meh, he makes up stuff
[06:49:57] <+Nikky> "Making up stuff" is not really a justification.
[06:50:07] < millinao> Sure it is
[06:51:00] <+Sir_Lewk> if "using Fedora" is a justification for random harassment, I don't see why making stuff up isn't ;)
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[06:51:41] <+Nikky> I've never kicked you for using fedora.
[06:52:00] <+Sir_Lewk> and I've never kicked Cricket_B
[06:52:12] < BrandonW> Sara's coming back for season 4 of Prison Break!
[06:52:17] <+Nikky> I wasn't specifically referring to you, was I? :)
[06:52:20] < BrandonW> I KNEW when I first saw the episode with her death, it wasn't real.
[06:52:22] <+Sir_Lewk> :P
[06:52:31] < Spengo\__> I may or may not have kicked him more than once
[06:52:49] < millinao> Everyone, go buy sins of a solar empire.
[06:52:55] < millinao> It is the best game ever
[06:53:10] < BrandonW> Nikky: he has made up stuff involving OS glitches, and several of us tried the last one he said and it is not true.
[06:53:11] < Spengo\__> excuse me... *buy*?
[06:53:18] < millinao> It is worth it
[06:53:32] < millinao> but if you want to download it, it's only 1.2 gigs
[06:53:32] < Spengo\__> :|
[06:53:40] <+Nikky> Pirate
[06:53:41] < Spengo\__> I'm trying to save moneys for AR15 atm
[06:53:49] <+Nikky> BrandonW: Really?
[06:53:54] <+Sir_Lewk> yes
[06:53:59] <+Nikky> Well, if he's really doing that and not shutting up, just ban him for the standard 15.
[06:54:10] <+Nikky> But the kicks I saw weren't very fair
[06:54:16] <+Sir_Lewk> confirmed does not work on 83+ 1.17
[06:54:50] < BrandonW> He stopped responding when asked what version it happened on.
[06:54:50] < Spengo\__> the only time I kicked him was when he kept repeating the same thing over and over and over
[06:55:03] < BrandonW> But seeing as how he has an 84+/SE, and it wasn't there in 1.17, it probably doesn't exist.
[06:58:13] < BrandonW> "I only could get one string glitch to work on the 84+SE"
[06:58:30] < BrandonW> Makes it sound like he got this from somewhere.
[06:59:22] < Spengo\__> http://www.thehomegunsmith.com/pdf/DrinkBottleSilencer.pdf :>
[06:59:46] <+Nikky> You didn't know that?
[07:00:01] < Spengo\__> I did, it's a nice instructions though
[07:01:10] < millinao> haha spengo, that's awesome
[07:01:13] <+Sir_Lewk> the russians used to do that
[07:01:18] < Spengo\__> suppressor tax is one of the dumbest gun control things ever, they are rarely used in crimes, don't even come close to "silencing" the gun like hollywood would like you to believe unless it's like a .22LR or something, their real purpose is protecting ears at the range
[07:01:25] <+Sir_Lewk> they only last a few shots at best though
[07:01:27] < Spengo\__> yeah
[07:02:41] <+Sir_Lewk> if I wanted to kill someone quietly I'd use a knife
[07:02:55] < Spengo\__> but anyways... paying an extra $200 tax so I don't kill my ears is dumb :P
[07:03:31] <+Sir_Lewk> I was under the impression they were harder to get than just $200
[07:03:41] <+Sir_Lewk> is that pretty much a local/state thing?
[07:04:00] < Spengo\__> even assuming it were going to be used in a crime, what do they expect, the gangsters are gonna ge like "OH NOES $200 is out of my budget! guess I can't kill someone today... :((" and if they really did want one they are easy to make like this
[07:04:09] < BrandonW> Are you going to snipe someone with a knife?
[07:04:12] < Spengo\__> or you could make a better one if you have some metalworking tools with a pipe and some washers
[07:04:16] <+Sir_Lewk> sure man
[07:04:25] <+Sir_Lewk> I have a long ass knife :P
[07:04:32] < Spengo\__> Sir_Lewk, yeah in some states they are illegal
[07:04:41] <+Sir_Lewk> that's what I thought
[07:04:45] < Spengo\__> not oregon though
[07:04:53] <+Sir_Lewk> I can't even get a handgun in Philly :S
[07:05:00] <+Sir_Lewk> this town sucks
[07:05:01] < Spengo\__> yeah philly sux
[07:05:57] < Spengo\__> BrandonW, http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/1995/scopedknifeua0.jpg :>
[07:06:13] <+Sir_Lewk> haha
[07:06:56] < BrandonW> When I open a video on my primary monitor, it always goes fullscreen on the second...why?
[07:07:05] < BrandonW> So it's on both monitors.
[07:07:10] < BrandonW> Windowed on the first.
[07:07:22] <+Sir_Lewk> blame it on windows
[07:07:34] <+Sir_Lewk> always the easiest scapegoat
[07:07:43] < boxknife> Does anyone know anything about console mod chips?
[07:07:45] < BrandonW> It didn't used to do that. The second monitor is now on a separate video card, so that's different.
[07:07:49] < BrandonW> Yeah, which console?
[07:08:02] < boxknife> the Playstation 2
[07:08:18] < BrandonW> That was a hard chip to put in.
[07:08:20] < BrandonW> What about it?
[07:08:22] < Spengo\__> boxknife, what about them
[07:08:28] < boxknife> Where can I get them?
[07:08:32] < Spengo\__> online
[07:08:35] < Spengo\__> order them
[07:08:37] <+Sir_Lewk> Kansas
[07:08:37] < BrandonW> Just google for them.
[07:08:38] < boxknife> I did a google search, but the sites I got were pretty ... shifty looking
[07:08:45] <+Sir_Lewk> Kansas has tons of them
[07:08:46] < BrandonW> Trust them.
[07:08:49] < Spengo\__> divineo, kicktrading, modchipman, etc.
[07:08:52] < boxknife> Ah, alright.
[07:08:55] < millinao> Kansas has warehouses full of them
[07:08:56] < Spengo\__> lots of places have 'em
[07:09:08] < millinao> in Kansas, you can find them laying on the ground
[07:09:26] <+Sir_Lewk> Kansas is like the technical capital of the world
[07:09:32] < millinao> indeed
[07:09:54] <+Sir_Lewk> I hear their public school science programs are excellent too
[07:09:58] < millinao> YES, new harold and kumar
[07:10:05] <+Sir_Lewk> oh no
[07:10:17] <+Sir_Lewk> as if 1 was not too many...
[07:10:22] < BrandonW> It's 2 now.
[07:10:27] < BrandonW> Do you mean that or 3?
[07:10:43] < millinao> I haven't heard of 2 until now
[07:11:34] < millinao> and I thought harold and kumar was hilarious
[07:11:34] < Spengo\__> http://nw0.info/index.php?p=eBooks%20and%20Audio%20Books/Banned_Books/
[07:11:36] < Spengo\__> neat :D
[07:11:46] <+Sir_Lewk> "I had two heart attacks and had to have an abortion because I did crack while I was pregnant" LMAO
[07:12:20] < millinao> what is that Spengo?
[07:12:42] < Spengo\__> take a wild guess :P
[07:12:50] < millinao> oh, banned books
[07:12:57] < millinao> I just saw the title
[07:13:22] < BrandonW> Guide to making secret ninja weapons?
[07:13:37] <+Sir_Lewk> lol
[07:13:41] <+Sir_Lewk> that would so be banned
[07:13:47] * Spengo\__ cackles evilly
[07:13:51] < Spengo\__> lots of full auto conversion guides
[07:13:59] < millinao> nw0.info fails though
[07:14:07] < millinao> since it hosts 911 conspiracy cra
[07:14:09] < millinao> *crap
[07:14:12] < BrandonW> New World Order freaks.
[07:14:12] < Spengo\__> they have a hard time finding hosting
[07:14:13] <+Sir_Lewk> *.rar s fail
[07:14:29] < Spengo\__> rar is fine?
[07:14:32] < millinao> rar is awesome
[07:14:32] < BrandonW> Those NWO people are absolutely insane, let me tell you.
[07:14:34] < Spengo\__> what's wrong with that?
[07:14:40] < Spengo\__> yeah they are
[07:14:41] < BrandonW> I have spent some time speaking to them on IRC.
[07:14:49] < BrandonW> They thought I was an undercover cop or something.
[07:14:55] < Spengo\__> awesome
[07:14:56] < millinao> lol
[07:14:58] < Spengo\__> you shoulda played that up
[07:14:59] < millinao> what channel?
[07:15:01] <+Sir_Lewk> why can't they use something normal like tar.gz or .zip?
[07:15:06] < BrandonW> Some freaky server, I've already forgotten it.
[07:15:11] < millinao> Now I want to harass them
[07:15:23] < millinao> Sir_Lewk, what's the difference?
[07:15:24] < Spengo\__> BrandonW, nothing screams EASY TO TROLL as loudly as that very often
[07:15:27] < Spengo\__> :D
[07:15:36] < BrandonW> I know, I offered to voice chat with them and they flipped out.
[07:15:40] < millinao> lol
[07:15:40] < Spengo\__> haha
[07:15:46] < BrandonW> They thought I was doing some sort of freaky mind game.
[07:15:51] < millinao> hahaha
[07:15:54] < Spengo\__> arm yourself with FBI copypasta
[07:16:07] <+Sir_Lewk> the only things that use .rar are "illegal/illicit" things
[07:16:10] < Spengo\__> after talking with a bit if you can get any personal info at all, drop it
[07:16:12] < Spengo\__> the will shit bricks
[07:16:13] <+Sir_Lewk> it bugs me
[07:16:15] < Spengo\__> and lulz will be had
[07:16:34] < Spengo\__> Sir_Lewk, actually a lot of people hide illegal rars in jpgs
[07:16:44] < Spengo\__> you have to rename the file extension
[07:16:47] < millinao> wtf, that's true
[07:16:57] < millinao> I thought that was just crap made up in an ED page
[07:16:57] <+Sir_Lewk> still rar
[07:17:06] < Spengo\__> ED says that?
[07:17:06] <+Sir_Lewk> nope
[07:17:08] < Spengo\__> hmm it shouldn't..
[07:17:21] < millinao> I think it was on the page for cp
[07:17:25] < millinao> but I don't remember
[07:17:27] <+Sir_Lewk> people do, do that
[07:17:52] <+Sir_Lewk> I used to rename my jpegs *.dll :D
[07:18:02] < Spengo\__> in your pron folder?
[07:18:07] < millinao> wait, how does that even work?
[07:18:11] < Spengo\__> it doesn't
[07:18:19] < Spengo\__> but normal people won't think to change the extension
[07:18:23] < millinao> does the .rar header start at the end of the jpg?
[07:18:28] < millinao> oh, nevermind
[07:18:33] < boxknife> What brand/kind of Playstation 2 mod chip would you guys recommend?
[07:18:39] < Spengo\__> you can append an executable to the end of any file
[07:18:56] < millinao> I thought headers had to start at the beginning
[07:18:59] < BrandonW> boxknife, don't cheap out on it. Get the best they have.
[07:19:00] < millinao> of the file
[07:19:08] < boxknife> alright
[07:19:13] < Spengo\__> millinao, let me go search up a link
[07:19:50] < BrandonW> I had a hard time soldering mine, but I think that's because I used a 40 watt iron.
[07:19:55] < Spengo\__> ugh, problem with a lot of sites related to this stuff is they are always under attack by some other group that doesn't like the first group
[07:20:05] < BrandonW> Think I'm crazy if you want, but I've done a lot with just a 40 watt iron.
[07:20:08] < Spengo\__> :|
[07:20:17] < Spengo\__> script kiddies are an irritable bunch
[07:20:33] < BrandonW> Yeah, why do you have to be that way, Spengo?
[07:20:48] < Spengo\__> I'm not irritable
[07:20:52] < Spengo\__> I'm ever-lovin' :D
[07:21:15] < millinao> yeah, there's one dumbass skiddie at my school that wouldnt shut the hell up until I said "you are better at me at computers"
[07:21:42] < millinao> I need to get really strong but not look like I am
[07:21:44] < boxknife> I've got a 40 watt iron too, but the heat is adjustable
[07:21:51] < BrandonW> You let some pissant make you say that?
[07:21:52] < Spengo\__> millinao, hold up a C program and ask him if he knows what language it's in
[07:22:04] < millinao> No, I didn't
[07:22:05] < boxknife> What sort of tip did you use for it?
[07:22:07] < BrandonW> The weapon of choice is now a 15/30 watt switchable.
[07:22:10] < Spengo\__> then laugh in his face and tell him he's a dumbass and to gtfo
[07:22:17] < Spengo\__> a what
[07:22:20] < BrandonW> I always use junk $8 Radio Shack irons, which only have one conical tip.
[07:22:38] < boxknife> Ah
[07:22:44] <+Sir_Lewk> millinao, look at him in the most calm and condescending way possible
[07:22:47] < Spengo\__> oh soldering iron
[07:22:53] < Spengo\__> I use a 40W
[07:22:55] < Spengo\__> :|
[07:23:05] < millinao> "You do not come near my abilities, peon!"
[07:23:09] < BrandonW> Last time I mentioned a 40 watt iron here, you guys called me insane.
[07:23:19] <+Sir_Lewk> you can command a lot of respect by being the "silent but deadly" type
[07:23:20] < millinao> I have to be levatating while I say that
[07:23:38] < Spengo\__> I like the holding up a C program method
[07:23:48] < Spengo\__> script kiddies rarely know how to program
[07:23:49] <+Sir_Lewk> function?
[07:23:57] < Spengo\__> no like, method of attack
[07:24:00] < Spengo\__> lulz
[07:24:01] <+Sir_Lewk> ah
[07:24:02] < boxknife> When I first started building kits and stuff, I'd always scorch the boards to hell because I was using a screwdriver tip.
[07:24:12] < Spengo\__> I had to think a bit what you meant there Sir_Lewk lol
[07:24:41] <+Sir_Lewk> I'm used to defending C from java-tards around here ;)
[07:24:42] < Spengo\__> like, holding up a C program is a method of shaming him
[07:24:48] <+Sir_Lewk> yeah
[07:24:49] < Spengo\__> eff java
[07:25:25] < boxknife> Like, I'd burn the board so bad the metal contact would come off and the solder wouldn't adhere to it anymore.
[07:25:35] < millinao> I think it's stupid that you are forced to take java for some CS degrees
[07:25:36] <+Sir_Lewk> I always quietly listen to what they say, then at the end scoff, and call them childish and walk away shaking your head as though disappointed in them
[07:25:53] <+Sir_Lewk> never explain to them why they are wrong, they won't listen and will only argue
[07:25:59] < millinao> lol
[07:26:07] < BrandonW> boxknife, first thing I ever tried to solder was a laptop power jack. Burned clean through the board.
[07:26:13] < BrandonW> I still have that laptop.
[07:26:18] < Spengo\__> millinao, me too
[07:26:22] < boxknife> Ouch.
[07:26:34] <+Sir_Lewk> millinao, yeah
[07:26:44] < Spengo\__> maybe if there was like, an elective class you could take later
[07:26:49] <+Sir_Lewk> that's one of the things I checked before deciding on a school
[07:26:51] < Spengo\__> but definitely not as a first programming language
[07:26:51] < millinao> NO ONE uses java
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[07:27:00] < Spengo\__> yeah people do, is the sad thing
[07:27:06] < millinao> and if you use it seriously for anything, your project is destined to fail
[07:27:07] < millinao> hard
[07:27:18] < BrandonW> Agreed.
[07:27:26] <+Sir_Lewk> java is 31 flavors of fail
[07:27:31] < Spengo\__> well, azureus is java and it's a decent bittorrent client, though utorrent is better
[07:27:44] < BrandonW> Azureus sucks.
[07:27:45] <@DarkAuron> and smaller
[07:27:48] < millinao> is sun bribing the schools to do that?
[07:27:49] <@DarkAuron> that too
[07:27:51] < Spengo\__> a hell of a lot smaller
[07:27:52] < BrandonW> And Java is why.
[07:28:01] <+Sir_Lewk> azureus sucks hard
[07:28:05] < Spengo\__> it's protocol encryption fails hard
[07:28:12] < Spengo\__> utorrent for the win
[07:28:16] <+Sir_Lewk> ktorrent == pure win
[07:28:21] < Spengo\__> ktorrent is decent
[07:28:24] <@DarkAuron> utorrent ftw
[07:28:31] < Spengo\__> utorrent ftw still though :)
[07:28:43] < millinao> torrents suck
[07:28:56] < Spengo\__> it's so tiny, and has the best protocol encryption atm, the only one that completely defeats comcast's filter
[07:29:00] < millinao> I just got 1 MBPS off my friend's server
[07:29:14] < millinao> Now I use http almost exclusively
[07:29:25] < millinao> although with demonoid back, I might try torrenting agian
[07:29:28] < millinao> *again
[07:32:00] < Spengo\__> I should totally make a lightning link with the tools in the engineering building lab...
[07:32:37] <+Sir_Lewk> ?
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[07:32:43] < Spengo\__> just in case there is a zombie uprising or space aliens invade or fascists take over the country
[07:35:29] <+Sir_Lewk> what's a lightning link?
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[07:40:06] < BrandonW> Something about firearm conversions, which he was going on about earlier.
[07:40:20] < BrandonW> It's best to just ignore Spengo.
[07:40:48] < Spengo\__> zombies... they will come someday o_o
[07:41:30] <+Sir_Lewk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRJ2YvRv3N4
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[07:45:25] < Spengo\__> :o
[07:46:30] < Spengo\__> homemade ballista :D DO WANT
[07:46:41] < Spengo\__> even BrandonW has to admit that would be pretty awesome
[07:47:24] < Spengo\__> zombies wouldn't mess with ya if you had effin' ballistas and trebuchets!
[07:47:38] < BrandonW> Of course they would.
[07:48:22] < BrandonW> They don't care about your fancy weapons. As long as the brain is intact, they will come for you.
[07:48:36] < BrandonW> Those things don't have the accuracy to destroy the heads of thousands/millions.
[07:48:53] < Spengo\__> well they'd be pretty sweet to have anyways
[07:49:03] < BrandonW> No. No, they wouldn't.
[07:49:07] < BrandonW> Only an insane person would like that.
[07:49:08] < BrandonW> And you're insane.
[07:49:22] < Spengo\__> but beautifully so
[07:49:23] < Spengo\__> :)
[07:49:46] < Spengo\__> also what if the zombies made a zombie castle and you needed to lay seige to it
[07:49:57] < BrandonW> They don't organize.
[07:50:08] < Spengo\__> if they were controlled by a necromancer
[07:50:32] < Spengo\__> or a vampire maybe, but necromancers are a bit more badass
[07:54:28] < Spengo\__> vampires all seem to be angsty emo faggots these days, whatever happened to the cooler ones like Dracula or something
[08:02:06] < BrandonW> They died hundreds of years ago.
[08:02:10] < BrandonW> Oh, wait, they never existed.
[08:03:15] < Spengo\__> :|
[08:03:31] < Spengo\__> telling spengos zombies don't exist is like telling little kids santa claus isn't real
[08:03:39] < Spengo\__> it's cruel and mean :(
[08:04:04] < BrandonW> The cruel and mean thing is lying to them in the first place.
[08:04:13] < BrandonW> The world has done you a disservice.
[08:04:17] < BrandonW> By screwing you up the way you are.
[08:05:13] < Spengo\__> well, when the zombie uprising begins, and I have a ballista and big guns and you do not, I will laugh >:|
[08:06:20] < Spengo\__> if anything american television will turn the unsuspecting masses into a mindless hordeOWAIT they already are...
[08:09:10] < BrandonW> American television and zombie movies, if anything, have prepared us for the zombie uprising. These poor saps that have never seen a TV won't know what to do with themselves.
[08:09:23] < Spengo\__> our doom is nigh, it will be borne on the wings of spongebob, house, and high school musical
[08:09:33] < Spengo\__> psh, they are spreading misinformation
[08:09:44] < BrandonW> Such as?
[08:10:12] < Spengo\__> did you watch I am legend?
[08:10:23] < Spengo\__> that guy was an idiot, his house defenses were terrible
[08:10:32] < Spengo\__> why did he put the lights on stands on the ground for zombies to knock over?
[08:10:38] < Spengo\__> why not mount them on the walls of fscking buildings
[08:10:54] < Spengo\__> why did he take an M4 when he had friggin machine guns and shotguns in his weapons locker
[08:11:07] < Spengo\__> he coulda sat on the roof and mowed zombies down as they ran at him
[08:11:24] < Spengo\__> buncha lights, shoot any zombies that try to climb up to get the lights
[08:11:43] < BrandonW> Yes, I've seen the movie, and he wasn't an idiot, he did just fine until that idiot woman lured them there. He had the entire surrounding area wired with explosives, and the lights would've worked if they'd stayed afraid of them, which they no longer did. They adapted.
[08:12:19] < Spengo\__> they were afraid of the lights, just that "leader" zombie who wanted his zombie girlfriend back was able to get them to run and knock the ones on stands over
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[08:12:45] < BrandonW> Yes, he adapted.
[08:12:49] < BrandonW> And got the others to do it.
[08:12:56] < BrandonW> Something unexpected by Will Smith.
[08:13:14] < Spengo\__> if the lights were mounted on something more stable and he was using one of the bigger guns that he had, he woulda done better
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[08:13:42] < boxknife> I've only read the original novella by Richard Matheson, and I have no idea what you guys are talking about.
[08:13:51] < Spengo\__> book's probably better
[08:14:00] < BrandonW> The latest movie of it, I Am Legend starring Will Smith.
[08:14:12] < Spengo\__> it wasn't a terrible movie, just wasn't great either
[08:14:19] < BrandonW> No, you're just an idiot.
[08:14:32] < Spengo\__> will smith was just an idiot
[08:14:34] < boxknife> I heard the movie was completely different from the book.
[08:14:36] < Spengo\__> I woulda survived :|
[08:14:40] < Spengo\__> boxknife, I don't doubt it
[08:15:23] < BrandonW> If you hear them lunging at you, you don't go to the roof to "mow them down", and he had the lights far out where there were no buildings.
[08:15:37] < BrandonW> You have to set up a perimeter, you don't just protect the house itself.
[08:15:48] < Spengo\__> you can put the lights on other buildings
[08:15:52] < BrandonW> He had a gun hidden every few feet in his house.
[08:16:07] < BrandonW> There were no buildings out in the street.
[08:16:09] < BrandonW> Which is where they were.
[08:16:29] < boxknife> What was the ending of the movie?
[08:16:44] < Spengo\__> he jumped at the smart zombie with a grenade and blew himself up with it
[08:17:18] < BrandonW> For some reason, he was immune to all mutations of the virus, so he gave a sample of his blood to the only other survivor and hid her while he blew himself up, so she could escape in daylight and make her way to a survivor camp and possibly cure it.
[08:17:39] < Spengo\__> no not his blood
[08:17:43] < Spengo\__> the blood of the zombie bitch he cured
[08:17:54] < Spengo\__> 'cause he apparently figured it out
[08:18:01] < BrandonW> Right, sorry.
[08:18:16] < Spengo\__> did you know they changed that ending
[08:18:37] < Spengo\__> the original ending, the leader zombie displayed intelligence and drew a heart on the glass and he did not find the cure
[08:18:45] < Spengo\__> but that got such terrible reviews that they changed it
[08:18:55] < Spengo\__> probably a good idea since that's pretty gay
[08:19:03] < BrandonW> That doesn't even make sense.
[08:19:08] < Spengo\__> I know :P
[08:19:17] < BrandonW> "Look, I can draw a heart", I kill you, and that's it?
[08:19:29] < Spengo\__> zombie is zombie, it isn't going to be all compassionate all of a sudden
[08:19:51] < Spengo\__> he just wants BRAAAAINZ and his zombie ho back apparently
[08:20:10] < BrandonW> Are you psyched about Cell?
[08:20:22] < BrandonW> I'd think you would be.
[08:20:29] < Spengo\__> hmm
[08:20:39] < Spengo\__> I'm most psyched about the tintin movies actually :3
[08:21:35] < BrandonW> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_(novel) Release in 2009.
[08:22:07] < Spengo\__> oh
[08:22:09] < Spengo\__> meh stephen king
[08:22:14] < BrandonW> Some sort of terrorist attack or something sends out a pulse over the cell phone network so that anyone who hears it will have their brain erased and they become zombies.
[08:22:21] < BrandonW> Then they start evolving.
[08:22:30] < BrandonW> With telekinesis and stuff.
[08:22:41] < Spengo\__> musta been on peyote when he thought it up
[08:22:50] < BrandonW> How can you possibly bash that?
[08:23:35] < Spengo\__> cell phone zombies?
[08:23:48] < Spengo\__> :|
[08:23:57] < Spengo\__> sounds like something from a spiderman comic
[08:23:57] <@DarkAuron> wtf
[08:24:00] <@DarkAuron> that's retarded
[08:24:03] < BrandonW> People with clean slate brains running around and killing people, then evolving to something new with freaky mind powers.
[08:24:13] < BrandonW> What, the only zombies you like are ones from a virus?
[08:24:20] < Spengo\__> no
[08:24:24] < Spengo\__> there are a few different kinds
[08:24:35] < Spengo\__> virus, necromancer/vampire/etc., alien
[08:24:35] < boxknife> You know he actually wrote "Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption"?
[08:24:40] < BrandonW> And a screeching signal erasing your brain isn't one of them?
[08:24:49] < boxknife> I was surprised.
[08:24:50] < Spengo\__> out of a cell phone speaker?
[08:24:52] < Spengo\__> you kidding?
[08:25:03] < Spengo\__> it's just not within the physical capacities of a cell phone
[08:25:20] < BrandonW> I read the start of the book...this one girl, she only hears a small part of the signal, and she runs around screaming "WHO AM I!!!" and starts bashing her head into a pole.
[08:25:39] < boxknife> lol
[08:25:42] < Spengo\__> lulz
[08:26:21] < Spengo\__> I should wear a tin foil hat
[08:26:32] < boxknife> I've only read four of King's novels, but I've read virtually all of his published short stories/novellas.
[08:26:46] < Spengo\__> I've read a few novels, was not very impressed
[08:26:47] < boxknife> Yeah, you ought to. That would make you publically identifiable.
[08:27:38] < Spengo\__> It's sort of like goosebumps for adults
[08:27:44] < Spengo\__> eff that
[08:27:52] < boxknife> Generally, I thought his short stories were much better than his longer works, yeah.
[08:27:59] < BrandonW> Zombies aren't within the physical capacities of people, either, but you still like it.
[08:28:10] < Spengo\__> yeah they are
[08:28:17] < Spengo\__> not the ones like in I am legend
[08:28:28] < BrandonW> Not at all.
[08:28:29] < Spengo\__> but regular ones that are made of slowness and rotting flesh
[08:29:11] < BrandonW> If that's what you think the zombie uprising will be like, then there are no worries, just hole up somewhere and wait for them to starve or rot away and then come back out.
[08:29:28] <+Nikky> You people are weird.
[08:29:32] < Spengo\__> zombies are strong though with their numbers
[08:29:45] < BrandonW> Who cares how many there are? They'll still starve and stop moving.
[08:29:58] < Spengo\__> if they can sense your brains any way at all, they will stop at nothing to get them
[08:30:07] < BrandonW> They will run out of energy without food.
[08:30:17] < Spengo\__> they will tear apart your hidey hole with their bare hands if they have to
[08:30:34] < Spengo\__> until their hands fall off and then they will scrape at it with their bones
[08:30:42] < BrandonW> A secure six-feet-thick metal wall? I think not.
[08:30:56] < Spengo\__> if they are controlled by a necromancer they could be armed
[08:31:12] < BrandonW> I hate you.
[08:31:26] <+aksnowman> lmao
[08:34:07] < Spengo\__> oh also, zombies made by space alien parasites, they can be strong
[08:34:26] < Spengo\__> because then it's just the parasite taking over the functions of the brain, the body is still alive and everything
[08:34:39] < BrandonW> Still need food...
[08:35:11] < Spengo\__> oh shit! remember I have no brains... you don't want to come over here o_o
[08:35:58] < BrandonW> I would never willingly go near you.
[08:36:18] < Spengo\__> what would you do if I snuck up and glomped you
[08:36:25] < BrandonW> Kill you.
[08:36:27] < Spengo\__> :(
[08:36:31] < Spengo\__> but hugs are nice
[08:36:39] < BrandonW> In general.
[08:36:40] < BrandonW> But not from you.
[08:36:54] < Spengo\__> you are a mean person that kills people that hug
[08:37:12] < BrandonW> I'm a loving person that has no problem killing Spengos.
[08:37:18] < Spengo\__> racism!
[08:37:28] < BrandonW> I'm a racist.
[08:37:31] < BrandonW> Hate the Spengos.
[08:37:35] < BrandonW> They should be exterminated.
[08:37:43] < Spengo\__> spengos are a fine race that will outlast you humans
[08:38:24] < Spengo\__> but now I have to go get a shower and go to sleep
[08:38:32] < Spengo\__> beauty sleep! D:
[08:38:41] < Spengo\__> so I feel pretty tomorrow :)
[08:40:22] < BrandonW> It's going to take more than a shower and sleep to do that.
[08:40:42] < BrandonW> Like...reincarnation.
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[09:05:43] <@DarkAuron> ouch
[09:22:20] < BrandonW> I love reading old Slashdot comments from years ago about how something is impossible, but now it's been done. Arrogant assholes...
[09:26:17] <+Nikky> Thank you.
[09:27:30] < BrandonW> For what?
[09:27:36] <+Nikky> Not sure.
[09:36:23] <@E-J> morning
[09:39:18] < boxknife> I hate slashdot comments. They're probably worse than youtube comments.
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[09:41:41] < boxknife> While youtube comments really plumb the depths of human idiocy, they're easy to shirk off or ignore.
[09:45:33] < boxknife> A ton of people that comment on slashdot think they're God's Great Gift to 21st century science and put on airs, and I hate that.
[09:46:48] < BrandonW> There's a guy at work that reads Slashdot every morning. I just want to slap him.
[09:46:54] < BrandonW> Another one reads Reddit, and the other reads Digg.
[09:46:57] < boxknife> lol
[09:46:59] < BrandonW> I pity them all.
[09:47:48] < BrandonW> They ask me what I read, and I say nothing...I wait for idiots to read the other sites for me and send me links, to weed out the junk.
[09:50:08] < boxknife> haha
[09:51:42] <@E-J> BrandonW: and for real you read and write to calcporn.com?
[09:54:37] < boxknife> Maybe I shouldn't ask, but what is calcporn.com?
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[10:00:10] < BrandonW> It's nothing right now.
[10:00:25] < BrandonW> I plan to make a porn site of calculators.
[10:00:34] < BrandonW> Provocative pictures of calculators (no humans).
[10:01:48] < boxknife> rofl
[10:04:39] < boxknife> That's cool
[10:09:45] <@DarkAuron> wow
[10:10:00] <@DarkAuron> I ended up joining a vampire slayer group in the imperial city without realizing it
[10:10:15] <@DarkAuron> I didn't even know there was such one
[10:14:21] <@DarkAuron> AH WTF
[10:15:28] < boxknife> I'm a real-life vampire slayer.
[10:20:53] < boxknife> Well, not really, but if there were really vampires I would be.
[10:20:58] < boxknife> It's the thought that counts
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[10:46:51] < BrandonW> Someone made a comment parser for Vera?
[10:47:01] < BrandonW> So, uh...when are we going to see some actual Vera code?
[10:47:15] <@DarkAuron> vera?
[10:47:27] < BrandonW> That third-party 83+ OS various people have tried to start/resurrect and it gets nowhere.
[10:47:54] < BrandonW> That's just one of those projects I'm not going to take seriously until I see some real results.
[10:48:07] <@DarkAuron> lol
[10:48:13] <@DarkAuron> they do it for attention
[10:48:34] < BrandonW> Yeah.
[10:48:57] < BrandonW> "omg look at me i can make an os"
[10:49:11] <@DarkAuron> indeed
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[10:49:45] < BrandonW> One of these days I'm going to take a couple of weeks and pound out something with basic program running and I/O / USB linking.
[10:51:24] < BrandonW> I have a week's vacation to take soon...instead of, you know, going outside or something crazy like that, I'll probably just pound that out.
[10:52:22] < BrandonW> I'd say the next milestone after that would be the BASIC parser.
[10:52:25] <@DarkAuron> and seeing the sun, legasp
[10:52:31] < BrandonW> I'd want as much backward compatiblity as possible.
[10:52:37] <@DarkAuron> don't go for the sun, stay inside. pound that out. :P
[10:53:01] <@DarkAuron> BASIC parser..
[10:53:03] <@DarkAuron> interesting..
[10:53:24] < BrandonW> That's not at all easy to recreate.
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[10:59:50] < BrandonW> I'm torn between a complete replacement and just recreating all of TI's stuff. They might sue me or something for that.
[10:59:57] < BrandonW> Although I secretly do want that, so...
[10:59:59] < BrandonW> That's what I'll do!
[11:05:27] < BrandonW> Why won't they get mad at me? :(
[11:08:48] < BrandonW> It bothers me when people edit WikiTI with language like "ti-os."
[11:09:08] < BrandonW> Please, take the time to capitalize what's supposed to be.
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[11:11:49] < BrandonW> I'm going to have to get more power there and declare myself WikiTI Nazi.
[11:11:54] < BrandonW> Because no one else is doing it.
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[11:29:08] < BrandonW> Dr. Phil soundboard prank calls...
[11:29:10] < BrandonW> I love it.
[11:29:26] <+tifreak> o.O
[11:29:29] <+tifreak> lol
[11:29:44] < BrandonW> "I just wanted to call you...and let you know...that you don't matter"
[11:29:53] <+tifreak> XD
[11:30:41] < BrandonW> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGiLgkSzGI0&feature=related
[11:31:32] <+tifreak> Wish I could look... :/
[11:31:54] <+tifreak> youtube is not dialup friendly >.<
[11:32:35] < BrandonW> A lot of these have the same video frame and it's just audio.
[11:32:50] < BrandonW> "Quit being mad at me, and just love me again..." "Do you resent your children?"
[11:33:05] <+tifreak> lol
[11:36:12] <+tifreak> lol, I want breakfast, just to lazy to go make any :P
[11:36:19] <+tifreak> that is sad... XD
[11:40:29] <@E-J> tifreak: are there these days anything that is dial-up friendly
[11:41:53] <@E-J> technically though i'm using dial-up know when i irc from bus
[11:42:38] <@E-J> but speed might be faster than isdn
[11:43:12] <+tifreak> true, there is little that is truly dialup friendly
[11:43:35] <+tifreak> maybe I should become un-friendly with Comcast, and force them to come up my road with cable... <.<
[11:43:43] <+tifreak> the jerkoffs...
[11:47:22] < BrandonW> Get a nice job and use your paycheck for satellite internet.
[11:47:38] <+tifreak> heh, I have a nice job... just no customers XD
[11:47:43] < BrandonW> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMbNA88kIfU&feature=related "Dr. Phil calls to activate a credit card"...it's worth it, let it buffer.
[11:48:12] <+tifreak> so far, I checked into one satellite provider for internet... $400 just for set up costs... and $60 a month for internet
[11:48:14] < BrandonW> I could listen to these all day.
[11:48:29] <+tifreak> lol
[11:48:32] < BrandonW> That's actually not terrible once you get past the one-time fees.
[11:49:05] <+tifreak> yes, but there is one problem
[11:49:18] <+tifreak> every time it hints at raining, I lose my satellite TV
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[11:50:12] <+tifreak> what i would just love to do is get my phone plan upgraded
[11:50:44] < notLeofox> I think i going to upgrade my server to 2003 today
[11:53:18] < BrandonW> Dr. Phil calls a drug counseling center: "Let me just be honest with you." "I'm a drunk pimp."
[11:55:19] < BrandonW> Dr. Phil calls a scientologist: "Do you torture small animals?" "Absolutely not." "Is that the truth or a lie?" "It's absolutely the truth."
[11:55:34] <+tifreak> well.. crap
[11:55:43] <+tifreak> i need the latest flash player.. <.<
[11:56:48] < BrandonW> Now I'm getting hooked on scientology videos...
[11:59:13] < notLeofox> scientology is evil
[11:59:19] < notLeofox> dont get brainwashed
[11:59:41] < notLeofox> protect your family and friends, tell them about scientology
[11:59:47] < notLeofox> and it's evil ways
[12:01:25] < BrandonW> Videos bashing it, that is.
[12:02:06] < notLeofox> that's good i guess
[12:02:39] <+tifreak> hooray for cream of wheat.. ^^
[12:09:30] <+tifreak> man, I am the best conversation killer this side of the mississippi... :P
[12:19:29] <+tifreak> This is amusing... Lachprog's tutorial for using the super mario editor is 101KB, and mine that I have rewritten for him, and am almost done with just the tutorial, is 55.7kb :)
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[14:40:09] <@efneTI86> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[14:46:33] <+Tari> yay, I finally got orange box
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[14:55:29] < likeWOAH> LOBSTER STICKS TO MAGNET
[14:56:17] < BrandonW> Netham clone.
[15:02:21] <+Sir_Lewk> likeWOAH is i_c_Y
[15:02:39] < BrandonW> Yeah, but he's acting stupid with that same quote that Netham does.
[15:02:56] <+Sir_Lewk> well they do
[15:03:01] <+Sir_Lewk> I've tried it
[15:03:12] < BrandonW> Who does what?
[15:03:21] < BrandonW> Lobsters stick to magnets?
[15:03:27] <+Sir_Lewk> their blood is blue because of all the iron, they'll stick to magnets
[15:03:53] <+Sir_Lewk> I went lobster fishing with a magnet last weekend
[15:05:09] < BrandonW> Our blood is blue and we don't stick to magnets.
[15:07:25] <+Sir_Lewk> get a bigger magnet
[15:07:34] <+Sir_Lewk> also, the internet never lies :P
[15:11:59] < BrandonW> http://tracfone.com/got_a_tracfone.jsp So, why can't I go here, click Activate, then click that I'm a new customer?
[15:13:24] < BrandonW> Okay, so I hate Internet Explorer.
[15:20:21] <+patz2001> http://www.break.com/index/awareness-test.html
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[15:29:51] <+Tari> I am Gamblor the Mighty!
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[15:36:28] <+Sir_Lewk> I guess I am aware
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[15:46:30] < BrandonW> Spam in the quit message!
[15:51:11] <+Sir_Lewk> !k btrerrel spam
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[16:03:52] <+Sir_Lewk> should I wait to watch "Alien" before watching "Aliens"?
[16:04:48] < BrandonW> You don't have to, but if you can, yes.
[16:07:24] <+Merthsoft> you should
[16:08:22] <+Sir_Lewk> I rented Aliens through Alien Resurrection but my library didn't have Alien
[16:08:31] <+Sir_Lewk> so I'm dl'ing that
[16:08:51] <+Sir_Lewk> <== Pirate
[16:09:01] <+Sir_Lewk> preemptive ;)
[16:16:13] <+Tari> :(
[16:16:19] <+Merthsoft> DarkAuron: You around?
[16:16:25] <+Tari> so I activated my orange box cd key on steam
[16:16:39] <+Tari> but it said the servers were busy so the request will be processed late
[16:16:46] <+Tari> later, even
[16:17:00] <+Tari> but I have not idea how much later
[16:17:06] <+Tari> argh, can't type
[16:18:24] <+Sir_Lewk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_United_States_%28by_state%29#Vermont :O
[16:18:36] * Sir_Lewk moves to Vermont
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[16:21:04] < i_c-Y> hi
[16:21:43] <+Merthsoft> hi i_c-Y
[16:22:13] < i_c-Y> hi Merthsoft
[16:22:16] < i_c-Y> how are you today?
[16:22:20] <+Merthsoft> i'm good, how are you?
[16:22:24] < i_c-Y> im fine.
[16:22:35] <+Sir_Lewk> something is dreadfully wrong if I'm not allowed to carry a concealed 50 cal machine gun
[16:22:56] < i_c-Y> ...
[16:24:08] < i_c-Y> i cant see any legitimate purpose of having a 50 cal
[16:24:39] <+Sir_Lewk> big zombies
[16:24:57] <+Sir_Lewk> or perhaps, "because I can"
[16:25:37] <+Sir_Lewk> there aren't "legitimate" reasons for plenty of thing but that doesn't mean we should ban them
[16:25:54] <+Merthsoft> there aren't legitimate reasons for any guns, really.
[16:26:27] < i_c-Y> hunting?
[16:26:37] <+Sir_Lewk> defense?
[16:26:51] <+Merthsoft> there's no need to hunt anymore
[16:26:59] <+Sir_Lewk> "I enjoy shooting at ranges"
[16:27:21] <+Merthsoft> guns to defend people from people with guns would be solved if there were no guns
[16:27:21] <+Sir_Lewk> "need" is not necessary for a legitimate use
[16:27:33] <+Merthsoft> mm, good point
[16:28:07] <+Merthsoft> but you're trying to make a killing device legitimate, i'd say need would be the only way to do so
[16:29:09] <+Sir_Lewk> what's next, hunting knifes?
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[16:30:28] <+Merthsoft> what do you need one for?
[16:30:58] <+Sir_Lewk> cutting apples
[16:31:05] <+Merthsoft> you can do that with a butter knife
[16:31:08] <+Sir_Lewk> I prefer the heavier feel
[16:31:38] <+Merthsoft> that's not really a good justification for the need of a tool that makes killing me a lot easier
[16:31:59] <+Sir_Lewk> or maybe I'm just a hobbyist butcher or something
[16:32:09] <+Merthsoft> then get a cleaver
[16:32:44] <+Sir_Lewk> next we'll start suggesting that we only let people who play baseball get bats
[16:33:08] <+Sir_Lewk> and a cleaver is just as nasty, havn't you ever watched horror movies? ;p
[16:33:23] <+Merthsoft> a line obviously has to be drawn somewhere
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[16:33:57] <+Sir_Lewk> I propose the line be "if you can carry it, you can own it"
[16:34:06] <+Sir_Lewk> thus ruling out tanks and AA guns
[16:34:34] <+Merthsoft> but allowing 50 cal machine guns
[16:34:53] <+Sir_Lewk> flamethrowers are cool though, aside from one or two states they are legally no different than cigarette lighters :D
[16:35:06] <+Merthsoft> see, that's just dumb
[16:35:37] <+Sir_Lewk> some places they use them to clear off driveways from snow
[16:35:49] <+Sir_Lewk> *of snow
[16:35:54] <+Merthsoft> hmm
[16:35:59] <+Merthsoft> that's pretty neat
[16:36:03] <+Sir_Lewk> yeah
[16:36:05] <+Merthsoft> might burn down your goddamn house
[16:36:09] <+incubus[]> I want to make an NES on an FPGA
[16:36:10] <+incubus[]> :(
[16:36:12] <+Sir_Lewk> very true :D
[16:37:42] < Spengo\__> dadaaa
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[16:38:17] <+incubus[]> sir lewk is sir geh
[16:38:23] < Spengo\__> flame throwers that shoot out like a squirt gun of liquid flame
[16:38:31] < Spengo\__> those are the reeeeally awesome ones
[16:38:34] <+Merthsoft> Sir_Lewk: I'm in support of owning guns, but there has to be rules and regulations so that crazy fucker can't get an ak47 and shoot the fuck outta my school
[16:38:36] <+incubus[]> Spengo! :D
[16:38:49] < Spengo\__> zombies are weak against fire too
[16:39:01] <+incubus[]> Merthsoft, a bill was passed recently in Florida; you are now allowed to bring a gun to work
[16:39:04] <+incubus[]> (no joke)
[16:39:07] < Spengo\__> Merthsoft, how about you regulate the crazy fuckers that would shoot up a school rather than the gun?
[16:39:15] <+Merthsoft> how do you suggest that?
[16:39:38] < Spengo\__> I dunno, it's easy to mod a civvie AK to be full auto anyways
[16:39:50] <+Merthsoft> give every person a rigorous mental evaluation, and then put them away if they show any signs that they may one day shoot someone?
[16:39:59] < Spengo\__> so it's not like it will stop the bad guys, it's just preventing people who want to own them legally from doing so
[16:40:29] <+Merthsoft> there're good arguments of both sides.
[16:40:39] < Spengo\__> besides that I think if a gun is illegal for a civilian to own, it's should also be illegal for a government agent to own
[16:40:42] <+Merthsoft> Because at least with the regulations and the legality, it may stop some people.
[16:41:04] <+Merthsoft> I think it would be best if there were just no guns at all in the world
[16:42:06] < Spengo\__> maybe if there was no evil people
[16:42:09] <+Merthsoft> I'd rather not have to worry about whether or not my neighbor has a rocket launcher, and might get drunk/pissed/strung out on speed and blow up my house
[16:42:49] < Spengo\__> I think anyone should be able to own any gun with no licensing, just a safety test before they can take it home
[16:43:16] * Cricket_B is awake
[16:43:28] < Spengo\__> I hate those idiots at the shooting range... you know the ones wearing camo with fingerless black gloves and a tacticool'd out gun that have never even heard the words "tigger discipline"
[16:43:33] < Cricket_B> That blue screen screensaver was hilarious
[16:43:58] < Cricket_B> I swear my mom tried to restart the computer
[16:44:06] <+Merthsoft> so crazy mcKillFace should be able to own a 50 cal sniper so he can sit on the roof of a building and start picking people off?
[16:44:23] < Spengo\__> hey Merthsoft that reminds me of something
[16:44:30] < BrandonW> A guy named Crazy McKillFace can do whatever he wants.
[16:44:31] < Spengo\__> there was that school shooting at a texas university awhile back
[16:44:43] <+Merthsoft> BrandonW: Fair enough
[16:44:44] < Spengo\__> where crazy mckillface gets his sniper rifle and goes up to the roof of a big building to shoot at people
[16:44:53] <+Merthsoft> and someone shoot the fuck outta him?
[16:45:01] < Spengo\__> and GUESS WHAT he only got a few because other people got out their guns and started shooting at him
[16:45:02] < Cricket_B> No response from TI
[16:45:09] <+Merthsoft> Yeah, Iknow
[16:45:14] < Spengo\__> they kept him pinned down until the cops came and owned his ass
[16:45:18] < Cricket_B> Why are you talking about guns?
[16:45:19] < BrandonW> It could be many days, Cricket_B.
[16:45:23] < BrandonW> Because they're insane.
[16:45:35] <+Merthsoft> that's why i'm not sure about what level of regulations there should be
[16:45:39] < Spengo\__> a gun is a tool
[16:45:44] * Cricket_B gets shot by Spengo\__
[16:45:47] < i_c-Y> its because Spengo\__ is a "gangsta"
[16:45:57] <+Merthsoft> because if someone came in here with a gun, I'd like to know that i, too, had a gun, and could plug the little dick suck
[16:46:14] <+Merthsoft> i gotta go now, though
[16:46:16] <+Merthsoft> see ya
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[16:46:22] < Spengo\__> lol i_c-Y I got a pic for you
[16:46:37] < i_c-Y> oh?
[16:47:34] * Cricket_B gets healed by BrandonW
[16:48:10] < Spengo\__> ah found it
[16:48:12] < Spengo\__> lemme upload
[16:48:30] * Cricket_B and BrandonW get shot by Spendgo\__
[16:48:39] < Cricket_B> *spengo
[16:48:44] < BrandonW> Spengo\__ would never shoot me.
[16:48:46] < BrandonW> NEVER
[16:48:50] < Cricket_B> Oh...
[16:48:52] < Spengo\__> never :O
[16:48:56] < BrandonW> I was quoting Portal.
[16:49:06] < Spengo\__> not in this room I mean
[16:49:15] < Spengo\__> http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/4224/homeboysightswq2.jpg
[16:49:39] < Cricket_B> Did anyone read yesterday's Citiclide and Happiness?
[16:49:45] < Cricket_B> *misspelled
[16:49:50] < Spengo\__> cyanide...?
[16:49:54] < Cricket_B> Yeah...
[16:50:00] < i_c-Y> Spengo\__: yeah seen it
[16:50:04] < Spengo\__> citiclide sounds like something you would do to pleasure a woman
[16:52:03] < Cricket_B> Todays comic:
[16:52:04] < Cricket_B> :(
[16:52:14] < Cricket_B> I hate the theme weeks
[16:52:15] < Spengo\__> lulz
[16:52:43] < i_c-Y> i lurve theme weeks
[16:52:45] * Cricket_B shoots the ice cream truck driver
[16:52:57] < Cricket_B> :D
[16:54:04] < Spengo\__> why, he killed an evil terrorist dog! :(
[16:54:04] * Cricket_B shoots i_c-Y
[16:54:13] < Cricket_B> ...
[16:54:34] <+Tari> well, I'm tired of waiting
[16:54:36] < Spengo\__> okay, see now Cricket_B is the type of person you shouldn't sell guns to
[16:54:39] <+Tari> time to file a support request
[16:54:58] < BrandonW> Spengo, do you own a gun?
[16:55:02] < Spengo\__> yep
[16:55:06] < BrandonW> God help us all.
[16:55:08] < Spengo\__> I have a 10/22 and a mosin
[16:55:09] < Cricket_B> He shot me...
[16:55:12] < Spengo\__> because mosins are awesome
[16:55:26] < Cricket_B> May I?
[16:55:44] < Cricket_B> I'll just do it...
[16:55:47] < i_c-Y> Tari: for?
[16:55:59] <+Tari> orange box
[16:56:02] * Cricket_B shoots Spengo and Spengo\__
[16:56:14] < Cricket_B> :D :D
[16:56:16] < Spengo\__> what's wrong with it?
[16:56:22] <+Tari> I activated my cd key, it said the servers were busy and it's be activated later
[16:56:29] <+Tari> *it'd
[16:56:35] < Spengo\__> Cricket_B, on IRC kick is more powerful than saying you shoot someone :)
[16:56:44] < BrandonW> TI's even buried the TI Connect download link...
[16:56:49] <+Tari> it let me continue with installing, but I accidentally interrupted that
[16:56:52] < Spengo\__> hah
[16:56:57] < Spengo\__> I hate when that happens
[16:57:03] <+Tari> and further attempts to activate say it's an invalid key
[16:57:07] < Spengo\__> stupid slow-ass steam servers
[16:57:30] < Cricket_B> Tari, do what always helped me: complain
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[16:58:16] < Spengo\__> Tari, you have the CDs right?
[16:58:26] < Spengo\__> er DVD I guess
[16:58:58] < Spengo\__> are the orange box games in your steam game list?
[16:59:33] < Cricket_B> Orange box?
[16:59:49] < Cricket_B> *Server-side ^K block*
[16:59:49] < Spengo\__> Cricket_B, gtfo if you don't know what orange box is >(
[17:00:29] < BrandonW> Always helpful as usual, Spengo.
[17:00:44] < BrandonW> The Orange Box is a collection of Valve games, including Half-Life 2, Portal, etc.
[17:00:48] < Spengo\__> I'm always helpful when people ask programming or calculator questions
[17:00:50] < Cricket_B> ^K didn't work...Orange -> []
[17:00:52] < BrandonW> http://www.steampowered.com/ or more.
[17:01:12] < BrandonW> Yeah, and you're useless for anything else.
[17:01:25] < Spengo\__> or computer hardware questions
[17:01:28] < Cricket_B> Even the calc related stuff
[17:01:28] < BrandonW> And your usefulness on the first two are debatable.
[17:01:34] < BrandonW> is*
[17:01:37] < Spengo\__> or guns/swords/knives/etc.
[17:01:46] <+Tari> I have the DVDs
[17:01:52] <+Tari> and none of the games are in my games list
[17:02:48] < Spengo\__> hmm
[17:02:55] < Cricket_B> 0 = Spengo.Usefulness("#TCPA")
[17:02:56] < Cricket_B> Returns 'True'
[17:02:57] < Cricket_B> _Infinity = Spengo.Usefulness("Paperweight")
[17:02:58] < Cricket_B> Returns 'True'
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[17:03:32] < i_c-Y> ...
[17:03:32] < Spengo\__> by that comparison, that makes you a what...?
[17:03:35] < Spengo\__> maybe a mosquito
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[17:03:43] < i_c-Y> thats pretty shitty code.
[17:04:23] < Cricket_B> _Infinity = Cricket_B.Usefulness("#tcpa")
[17:04:24] < Cricket_B> Returns 'True'
[17:04:44] <+Zeromus> ...?
[17:04:48] <+Tari> argh
[17:05:12] <+Tari> so I'm trying https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=5168-EUIA-6643
[17:05:12] < Cricket_B> If usefulness is on a scale from 0 to 10, 10 being best:
[17:05:13] < Cricket_B> 10 -> _Infinity
[17:05:17] <+Tari> with the port forwarding
[17:05:31] <+Tari> but I can't connect to any APs which I can get admin control on
[17:05:42] < Spengo\__> hmm
[17:07:01] < i_c-Y> you're not at home?
[17:07:24] <+Tari> my router is 802.11b
[17:07:32] <+Tari> the new wireless card is only g and n
[17:07:41] < BrandonW> i_c-Y used an apostrophe.
[17:08:00] < i_c-Y> oh noez.
[17:08:08] < i_c-Y> Tari: oh that sucks. :-/
[17:08:19] < i_c-Y> get a wrt54gl or wire up
[17:08:48] <+Tari> need cash for the wrt54gl, and don't think I have any long enough wires right now
[17:08:54] <+Tari> unless I try to rip one out of the wall
[17:09:29] <+Tari> although I have yet to try running the one downstairs through the ducts up to my desk
[17:09:50] < BrandonW> What router do you have, i_c-Y?
[17:10:27] < i_c-Y> at home i have a wrt54gl
[17:10:55] < BrandonW> And wherever you are now?
[17:11:03] < i_c-Y> running hyperwrt thibor. might switch back to ddwrt eventually.
[17:11:39] < i_c-Y> im at college. i have a netgear ds108 hub in my room
[17:11:56] < i_c-Y> and the school uses netgear, cisco and intel networking equipment.
[17:12:01] < Cricket_B> IDK what kind I have
[17:12:16] < Cricket_B> Connect to 72.129.89.238:8080
[17:12:38] < BrandonW> At the moment, I daisychain two routers, a wireless Linksys something-or-other and an ancient Siemens SpeedStream 2614. WRT54GL on the way.
[17:12:48] < Cricket_B> i_c-Y, can I box you right here?
[17:12:54] < i_c-Y> hm?
[17:12:57] <+patz2001> QUICK! Random Star Wars quote!
[17:13:01] * Cricket_B puts i_c-Y in a box
[17:13:10] < Cricket_B> I boxed him :D
[17:13:16] < i_c-Y> BrandonW: cool. put ddwrt on the wrt54gl or hyperwrt thibor. the prior is better.
[17:13:26] <+patz2001> Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerer's ways, Cricket_B.
[17:13:32] < i_c-Y> even if you're not interested in the extra features.
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[17:13:36] < Cricket_B> ...
[17:13:41] < Cricket_B> IDGI
[17:13:50] <+patz2009> DSFAREG
[17:13:57] <+Tari> blegh
[17:13:58] < i_c-Y> (theres no boot wait time on the default firmware so you can tftp a new firmware if something goes wrong)
[17:14:05] <+Tari> well now I need to go somewhere
[17:14:08] < BrandonW> The Siemens router is wired and is the real router...the Linksys is just to add wireless and more ports.
[17:14:11] < i_c-Y> and you also have shitty connection tracking in linksys's official.
[17:14:24] < i_c-Y> id put ddwrt on it then.
[17:14:29] < i_c-Y> plus you can boost the xmit :)
[17:14:36] < BrandonW> My current Linksys router is junk and wouldn't take DD-WRT.
[17:14:51] < i_c-Y> turn the xmit up to like 70
[17:15:16] < i_c-Y> :D
[17:15:20] < BrandonW> When I make this switch, I'll still daisychain with one of them and use the WRT54GL as the main one.
[17:15:50] <+Sir_Lewk> Spengo, " besides that I think if a gun is illegal for a civilian to own, it's should also be illegal for a government agent to own" I think that may be the most sensible thing I have ever heard
[17:15:58] < i_c-Y> are you going to mod it for like sd cards and stuff?
[17:16:09] < BrandonW> Yes.
[17:16:23] < i_c-Y> if i had 2 more of em id do that
[17:16:30] < BrandonW> Why's that?
[17:16:43] < Spengo\__> Sir_Lewk, don't you love our tax dollars hard at work providing bodyguards for our politicians armed with fully automatic submachine guns which we are not even allowed to own without special licenses and permits?
[17:16:48] < Cricket_B> Why is the MirageOS folder organization reset if you do a RAM CLEAR?
[17:16:53] < i_c-Y> cause then i could leave one at my parents house, one for my place next year and one thats always working.
[17:17:02] <+Sir_Lewk> yeah really
[17:17:08] < Cricket_B> ...
[17:17:11] <+Sir_Lewk> I never really thought of it that way
[17:17:41] < BrandonW> Cricket_B, because the programs you're putting in differnet folders were archived. A certain value in each variable's VAT entry is modified when you switch folders, and a copy of the original entry is stored along with an archived variable. So any changes you make to the RAM copy will die on reset.
[17:17:51] < BrandonW> The fix is to unarchive them, put them in the folder you want, and archive them back.
[17:18:00] < Cricket_B> THX
[17:18:19] * Cricket_B bugs Andy_J about the keyhook manager
[17:18:53] <+Zeromus> what percentage increase is 45 over 33?
[17:18:57] < Cricket_B> What about programs unhiding themselves?
[17:19:00] < i_c-Y> BrandonW: after around 120 mW of xmit, you'll need to switch antennas to the high gain models, or it starts to get worse.
[17:19:20] < i_c-Y> Zeromus: ((45-33)/33))*100%
[17:19:49] < Cricket_B> ERR:Syntax
[17:19:56] < BrandonW> Cricket_B, if they were originally unarchived, it's the same thing.
[17:19:59] < BrandonW> archiveD*
[17:20:01] < BrandonW> archiveD**
[17:20:02] < Cricket_B> THX
[17:20:04] < BrandonW> archived***
[17:20:06] < BrandonW> Eek.
[17:20:10] < Cricket_B> LOL
[17:20:23] < Cricket_B> That deserves to be quoted
[17:20:26] < Cricket_B> :)
[17:20:28] < i_c-Y> no it doesnt.
[17:20:34] <+patz2009> Nah, it's happened many times before
[17:20:36] < i_c-Y> doesn't*
[17:20:45] < Cricket_B> Okey
[17:20:48] < Cricket_B> *Okey
[17:20:51] < Cricket_B> **Okey
[17:20:54] < Cricket_B> ***Okey
[17:20:59] < Cricket_B> ****OK
[17:21:13] < Cricket_B> OK?
[17:24:45] < BrandonW> It should be a rule...you can only put things on WikiTI if you know what you're talking about.
[17:24:55] < Cricket_B> ld hl,Stupid
[17:24:56] < Cricket_B> ld ix,hl
[17:25:04] < Cricket_B> Stupid:
[17:25:09] < Cricket_B> .dw 0
[17:25:19] < Cricket_B> ret
[17:25:54] * Sir_Lewk does the safety dance
[17:25:55] <+Sir_Lewk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcOZ6xFxJqg
[17:26:05] <+Sir_Lewk> Do the safety dance!
[17:26:28] < Cricket_B> No.
[17:26:31] * Cricket_B is safe
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[17:27:02] < BrandonW> That code is nonsense.
[17:27:12] < Cricket_B> TD-Linux isn't, however
[17:27:22] < Cricket_B> BrandonW, how is it nonsense
[17:27:23] <+TD-Linux> okay
[17:27:27] <+TD-Linux> why was I just highlighted?
[17:27:32] < Cricket_B> I make ix equal to 0
[17:27:47] <+Sir_Lewk> Cricket_B, the safety dance is awesome
[17:27:57] < Cricket_B> For idiots, it is
[17:28:18] * Cricket_B burns Sir_Lewk
[17:28:26] * Cricket_B puts away his flamethrower
[17:28:33] <+Sir_Lewk> have you watched it?
[17:28:49] < Cricket_B> Idiots watch it
[17:29:02] * Cricket_B burns Sir_Lewk again
[17:29:09] * Cricket_B puts away his lighter
[17:29:10] <+Sir_Lewk> dude, it's a serioulsly good song and video
[17:29:34] * Cricket_B cannot burn Sir_Lewk as he burned himself (Sir_Lewk)
[17:29:54] * Cricket_B puts away Randomist, who was set on fire
[17:30:21] <+Sir_Lewk> watch it
[17:30:26] < Cricket_B> No.
[17:30:43] * Cricket_B 's inernet connection isn't working
[17:30:47] < Cricket_B> *internet
[17:30:58] < Cricket_B> Ummm...IDK
[17:31:06] < Cricket_B> Why I'm here, then
[17:31:14] <+Sir_Lewk> even Scrubs likes it
[17:31:16] <+Sir_Lewk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-bIhCBSrzU&feature=related
[17:31:21] < BrandonW> I hate the direct USB protocol.
[17:31:24] < Cricket_B> I'm in 8th grade...
[17:31:28] < BrandonW> But I know how to set another calculator's clock now.
[17:31:34] < Cricket_B> :D
[17:31:38] <+Sir_Lewk> we figured as much Cricket_B
[17:31:44] < Cricket_B> Can you start a Y2K bug?
[17:31:52] <+Sir_Lewk> all the babes will swoon for you if you do the safety dance though
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[17:32:00] < BrandonW> Cricket_B, for starters, you can't do "ld ix,hl", and second, you're running data as code, which I guess is fine since it's 0 (NOPs), but still odd.
[17:32:04] * Cricket_B has a babe
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[17:32:40] < Cricket_B> BrandonW, I forgot the ret before the label
[17:32:49] < Cricket_B> I put it after
[17:33:05] < Cricket_B> How do you store to ix?
[17:33:05] < BrandonW> And that's bad.
[17:33:11] < BrandonW> ld ix,whatever
[17:33:24] < BrandonW> That's immediate values only.
[17:33:26] < Cricket_B> ld ix,hl should work, then
[17:33:28] < BrandonW> You can't have "whatever" be a register.
[17:33:36] < Cricket_B> ...nvr ming
[17:33:38] <+Sir_Lewk> "babes" != "babe:
[17:33:39] < Cricket_B> *mind
[17:33:40] <+Sir_Lewk> "
[17:33:48] < BrandonW> That's the biggest mistake people make...you can't just make any combination of operands you want, there's a very specific list.
[17:33:54] < BrandonW> That's why you keep an opcode list nearby.
[17:34:59] < Cricket_B> Wait, can I do:
[17:35:00] < Cricket_B> ld hl,Opcode
[17:35:01] < Cricket_B> add hl,1
[17:35:02] < Cricket_B> ld (hl),bc
[17:35:12] < Cricket_B> Opcode:
[17:35:13] < Cricket_B> ld ix,$0000
[17:35:15] < BrandonW> No, you can't load a 16-bit register into (hl).
[17:35:31] < BrandonW> Nor can you add a value directly to HL like that.
[17:35:35] < Cricket_B> Well, b into (hl) and c into (hl + 1)
[17:35:45] < BrandonW> You can't say (hl+1).
[17:35:53] < Cricket_B> And increase of HL
[17:35:56] < Cricket_B> I know
[17:36:18] < Cricket_B> But the general idea works, right?
[17:36:21] < BrandonW> You probably mean C into (hl) and B into the next byte.
[17:36:31] < Cricket_B> I guess...
[17:36:34] < BrandonW> I have no idea what you intended that to do.
[17:37:11] < Cricket_B> Still no response from TI
[17:37:14] < BrandonW> Self-modifying code to change the $0000 with BC?
[17:37:21] < Cricket_B> Yes
[17:37:39] * Cricket_B boots Outlook
[17:37:51] < Cricket_B> I will use that instead of webmail
[17:37:58] < Cricket_B> Actually, no
[17:38:01] < BrandonW> ld hl,opcode+1 \ ld (hl),c \ inc hl \ ld (hl),b \ opcode: ld ix,0 That works.
[17:38:03] * Cricket_B quits Outlook
[17:38:13] < Cricket_B> THX, then
[17:38:33] < BrandonW> Ion is chock full of self-modifying code.
[17:38:41] < Cricket_B> '/me reorginizes MirageOS
[17:38:54] < Cricket_B> Stupid apostriphty key
[17:38:57] < Cricket_B> *misspelled
[17:41:03] < Spengo\__> save the whales!
[17:42:15] < BrandonW> http://users.wpi.edu/~bmoody/usb.txt Look at the very bottom...all that crap is just to support one command.
[17:45:20] < Cricket_B> Spengo, we don't want to save you
[17:45:39] < Spengo\__> Cricket_B, it's an option in mirage os
[17:46:22] < BrandonW> Spengo, he was calling you a whale.
[17:46:44] < Spengo\__> I'll take it as a compliment since whales have big penises
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[17:46:57] <+tailsfan> Your pervs
[17:47:10] < i_c-Y> youd think 13 year olds would learn by now
[17:48:34] < BrandonW> tailsfan, no, that's just Spengo.
[17:48:54] < BrandonW> I'm assuming you were calling us perverts.
[17:48:58] < BrandonW> It's actually "you're".
[17:49:20] < BrandonW> Because it's really "you are perverts."
[17:49:29] < BrandonW> If you can't make it longer like that, it's "your."
[17:50:36] <+Sir_Lewk> tailsfan is a grammar pervert
[17:50:44] <+tailsfan> shut up
[17:50:58] <+Sir_Lewk> sheesh, just joking...
[17:51:03] < i_c-Y> BrandonW: Please stop giving us grammar lessons. It is very annoying. :(
[17:51:13] < BrandonW> I'm just not sure he's ever heard it before.
[17:51:16] < BrandonW> I know you'll never learn, i_c-Y.
[17:51:22] < BrandonW> You have to stop this stuff early.
[17:51:30] < BrandonW> And if he just doesn't care, then, well, that's that.
[17:51:31] <+patz2009> NSpire
[17:51:45] < i_c-Y> Oh, quite the contrary. I use punctuation properly, except when my target audience doesn't comprehend it.
[17:51:54] < BrandonW> I comprehend it.
[17:52:00] < BrandonW> You won't do it for me?
[17:52:12] < i_c-Y> hm. i suppose i could.
[17:52:46] < BrandonW> It's one thing to be lazy about punctuation, but you have to use the language correctly.
[17:52:57] < i_c-Y> I have to write a paper for Humanities class today. I didn't read the books though.
[17:53:30] <+Sir_Lewk> !punctuation... is ?the' coolest, so "I"; use :it all? the! time
[17:53:44] < BrandonW> That hurt me.
[17:53:48] < BrandonW> Physically hurt me.
[17:53:49] <+Sir_Lewk> sorry :D
[17:54:38] < i_c-Y> I'm curious as to why Opera is using the 9.27 mail engine when it should be using the 9.50b mail engine. I think that is causing a bunch of problems with resource usage.
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[18:01:19] < BrandonW> I hate direct USB...
[18:05:23] < i_c-Y> :(
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[18:08:07] < i_c-Y> okay, opera has been downgraded
[18:11:16] <+Sir_Lewk> http://www.ivosoftware.com/ that is really good! :O
[18:12:18] <+Zeromus> I feel dumb... I just realized that a record makes noise when played, even without the stereo hooked up
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[18:13:40] < i_c-Y> ...
[18:14:19] <+Zeromus> just a needle rested on it, and it spinning
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[18:36:58] < BrandonW> You know, I think I could actually improve TI Connect transfers using periph8x.
[18:37:05] < BrandonW> By working around stupid TI Connect oddities.
[18:38:27] < BrandonW> Like I'm dying to know right now why the hell it never starts the transfer when the app already exists...
[18:39:00] < BrandonW> I really shouldn't be putting it in this application, I'm running out of space
[18:39:11] < BrandonW> And I haven't even started the MSD stuff.
[18:41:33] < BrandonW> About 6KB left.
[18:42:28] <@E-J> http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/photographer/20/20534_large.jpg
[18:45:46] < btrettel> I saw that on reddit or digg or something before. It's a good point.
[18:50:57] < BrandonW> I can sit here and monitor all USB traffic on the calculator, and I'm positive TI Connect checks to see whether the variable exists, and if so, HANGS. Makes no further communication attempts.
[18:51:07] < BrandonW> I hate TI Connect.
[18:51:10] < BrandonW> I just want to kill whoever wrote it.
[18:51:38] <+patz2009> Help > About TI Connect...
[18:52:30] < BrandonW> Maybe you can tell me why it requests free RAM when sending a FLASH APPLICATION...
[18:52:43] < BrandonW> I'm going to have to start keeping notes and then send it all at once to the developer.
[18:54:07] < BrandonW> Or maybe I should just send one a day to piss them off.
[18:54:30] <+patz2009> Or maybe you could just become a main developer at TI
[18:54:45] < BrandonW> It was written in C++, I know this.
[18:54:59] <+patz2009> It shouldn't be suprising.
[18:55:11] <+patz2009> Visual C++, methinks,
[18:55:13] < BrandonW> They picked the right language, they just completely screwed it up.
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[18:55:57] < Sepperl> hi there
[18:56:10] < BrandonW> Hello.
[18:56:17] < Sepperl> May I ask a "simple" question
[18:56:23] < BrandonW> Have at it.
[18:56:44] < Sepperl> what is the best "trigo" program for the Voyage 200
[18:56:52] < Sepperl> I have one on my TI82
[18:56:53] < BrandonW> I don't know, check ticalc.org.
[18:57:03] < BrandonW> The best thing to do is go through the archives.
[18:57:05] < BrandonW> And find one.
[18:57:10] < BrandonW> That's what anyone else would say.
[18:57:24] < Sepperl> I have searched through all the the trigo-files
[18:57:31] < BrandonW> There is no other place where it would be.
[18:57:43] < Sepperl> but none is really satisfying
[18:57:59] <@E-J> why not making one yourself?
[18:58:13] < Sepperl> the one on the TI82 is in assembler
[18:58:43] < BrandonW> Have you searched both the BASIC and assembly archives for the 89, 92+, and Voyage 200?
[18:58:48] < BrandonW> And 92 BASIC programs?
[18:58:58] < BrandonW> All of that would work for you.
[18:59:16] <@E-J> yep
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[19:01:04] < BrandonW> I knew deep down it would be an 89 question.
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[19:01:09] < BrandonW> I can sense these things.
[19:01:25] <@E-J> BrandonW: you are almost glk?
[19:01:34] <@E-J> except 50 years younger
[19:01:36] < BrandonW> Don't joke about such things. :(
[19:01:57] < n00b331> rename sepperl
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[19:04:51] < BrandonW> The one question I don't like is "what's the best program for xyz".
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[19:05:04] < BrandonW> There's one central place where everything is kept.
[19:05:07] < BrandonW> If it ain't there, it doesn't exist.
[19:05:16] < BrandonW> So look at them.
[19:05:18] < BrandonW> And find out.
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[19:42:16] < BrandonW> Oncalc USB logging once again saves the day.
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[19:50:59] < Com125> hey
[19:51:24] < btrettel> Here's kinda slow.
[19:54:01] < BrandonW> Did you get your connection fixed, Com125?
[19:54:57] < Com125> yeah, hopefully
[20:00:38] < BrandonW> There's a lot of crap you have to support just to do a simple direct USB PC transfer.
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[20:01:44] < BrandonW> http://rafb.net/p/cvuaRZ37.html Nowhere near done.
[20:08:53] < BrandonW> There's no way a RAM program would be able to do this.
[20:09:03] < BrandonW> Well, it could, it would just be large and useless.
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[20:29:07] <@efneTI86> [Merthsoft] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
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[20:32:55] <@efneTI86> [Cricket_B] Chirp! Chirp! Chirp!
[20:35:56] < Cricket_B> Physics lesson: http://youtube.com/watch?v=crlIz8Dbx9U (start watching at 2:50-Part 5)
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[20:38:22] < BrandonW> I got TI Connect to say "Packet length not valid", yay.
[20:38:36] < BrandonW> I do have to commend them on their overly-insane and robust error handling.
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[20:42:39] < Barrett> how'd you manage that? a packet of the wrong size?
[20:42:51] < BrandonW> I'm still trying to figure that out.
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[20:43:15] < BrandonW> But yes, the error message does actually match what likely happened, for once.
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[20:44:05] < prime38> you guys heard about coders sex change?
[20:44:13] <+chronomex> yes ...
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[20:44:19] < prime38> ok
[20:44:56] <+Merthsoft> whose?
[20:45:16] < Cricket_B> Still no response :(
[20:45:40] < BrandonW> It's going to be days, Cricket_B.
[20:45:47] < Cricket_B> :(
[20:45:53] < BrandonW> At best.
[20:45:55] < BrandonW> Maybe never.
[20:46:00] < Cricket_B> 0_0
[20:46:03] < prime38> a response from ti?
[20:46:08] < Cricket_B> Yeah...
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[20:46:41] < Cricket_B> Bye, Leofox!!!
[20:46:47] < prime38> cant you read?
[20:46:50] <+chronomex> no, that's not leofox
[20:46:56] < prime38> that obviously wasnt leofox
[20:47:07] < Cricket_B> Bye, Miranda!!!
[20:48:21] < BrandonW> I pushed things on the stack in the wrong order.
[20:48:23] < BrandonW> To cause that.
[20:48:24] < Cricket_B> I wonder how many e-mails they have...
[20:48:39] < BrandonW> So I'm surprised it behaved as well as it did.
[20:48:50] < BrandonW> They have lots.
[20:48:54] < BrandonW> Lots of idiots in the world of calculators.
[20:48:56] <+chronomex> and more every day
[20:49:15] < Cricket_B> chronomex was just added to their list
[20:49:28] <+chronomex> mmhmmm
[20:49:29] < Cricket_B> Hmmm...who's chronomex...
[20:49:29] < BrandonW> YES! SUCCESS!
[20:49:50] < prime38> hey, i just got a email
[20:49:57] < Cricket_B> From...
[20:50:06] < prime38> facebook
[20:50:12] < BrandonW> Facebooktard.
[20:50:15] <+chronomex> From: gdula
[20:50:18] < Cricket_B> I don't care
[20:50:37] < prime38> BrandonW: you know you are one too
[20:50:49] < BrandonW> I haven't signed into Facebook in a long time.
[20:50:54] < BrandonW> It is useless.
[20:50:56] < Cricket_B> You know what the TI-84+SE should have?
[20:51:05] < prime38> a facebook app?
[20:51:08] < BrandonW> The only reason I have accounts on that and MySpace is because friends beg for it, or want me to see something I have to register for.
[20:51:10] < prime38> cause it probably already does
[20:51:19] < Cricket_B> C++ programming compatability
[20:51:23] < BrandonW> No, no it shouldn't.
[20:51:25] < BrandonW> Don't get me started.
[20:51:29] < BrandonW> C is not practical on the z80 calculators.
[20:51:29] < Cricket_B> Why?
[20:51:29] * prime38 lets BrandonW slap Cricket_B
[20:51:31] < BrandonW> Just trust me on this.
[20:51:37] < prime38> haha
[20:51:38] < BrandonW> People have tried.
[20:51:41] < prime38> he already begun
[20:51:41] < BrandonW> It will fail every time.
[20:52:03] < Cricket_B> Well, at least a PC side C++->Z80 compiler
[20:52:05] <+chronomex> prime38: lol fackbook app
[20:52:08] < BrandonW> No.
[20:52:15] < BrandonW> You can't just convert between languages like that.
[20:52:16] < Cricket_B> What's facebook?
[20:52:17] < BrandonW> That's just silly.
[20:52:20] <+chronomex> Cricket_B: go ahead, write it in a batch file
[20:52:21] < BrandonW> http://www.facebook.com/
[20:52:32] < BrandonW> An online community site like MySpace, only it pretends to be more mature.
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[20:53:15] < Cricket_B> facebook.value == 0; Returns: BOOLEAN.True
[20:53:18] <@E-J> Cricket_B: in which barrel you have live past months and why did you come out (about not knowing facebook)
[20:53:34] < prime38> lol barrel
[20:53:34] < Cricket_B> ?
[20:53:38] < Cricket_B> Bad grammer
[20:53:41] < BrandonW> I'm going to let you in on a little secret...it's not cool to talk in code.
[20:53:42] < prime38> i dont think that word translated so well
[20:53:46] <+chronomex> Cricket_B: he means you've been living in a barrel, which is it?
[20:53:55] < BrandonW> E-J's English isn't perfect.
[20:53:57] <+chronomex> and why didn't you stay in the barrel?
[20:54:07] < prime38> a shotgun barrel or a whiskey barrel?
[20:54:08] < Cricket_B> The barrel I've been living in is null.
[20:54:18] < Cricket_B> There was no barrel
[20:54:39] <@E-J> yes, i'm not native, i translate finnish to english directly
[20:54:43] <+Merthsoft> BrandonW: Talking in code is the coolest thing ever
[20:55:01] < BrandonW> Why don't you do it, then?
[20:55:07] <+Merthsoft> i'm not cool
[20:55:13] <@E-J> prime38: maybe oil or whiskey
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[20:55:46] <+chronomex> too bad it wasn't more sticky
[20:56:37] <+chronomex> there's someone on this wifi who's in the yahoo chatroom Paganism:4
[20:56:45] <+chronomex> and it's not me
[20:56:54] <+chronomex> should I go in there and harass them?
[20:56:58] <+Tari> you should go in
[20:56:59] < Com125> How do you save the files in your rom in TiEmu?
[20:57:07] <+Tari> and say 'SATAN RULES!'
[20:57:09] < Com125> every time I load the rom it always loads the files I don't want
[20:57:11] <+Tari> then leave
[20:57:16] <+chronomex> haha
[20:57:21] <+chronomex> best? I'm wearing my church shirt
[20:58:17] <+Tari> that or post a link to goatse
[20:59:11] < prime38> chronomex: how do you know they are in a chatroom?
[20:59:24] < prime38> you sniffing their packets?
[20:59:40] <+chronomex> mmhmmmm
[20:59:58] < prime38> snuffling their truffles
[21:00:06] < Com125> oh...save state should work
[21:00:58] <+Tari> I'd snuffle those truffles
[21:01:15] < prime38> the low resolution that facebook stores photos kindof bothers me
[21:01:36] <+chronomex> it's not useful for storing large amounts of data
[21:01:44] <+chronomex> but the unlimited space is compelling
[21:02:09] <+Tari> you could encode warez in images
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[21:02:17] <+Tari> and use facebook to distribute warez
[21:02:39] < prime38> i bet they check for that actually
[21:02:42] <@E-J> i can think better ways to distribute warez than fb
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[21:03:01] < prime38> or their mega jpg compression kills the file payload
[21:03:40] <+Tari> makes me want to try that, though
[21:03:54] < prime38> using winrar to embed stuff in it?
[21:05:05] < Cricket_B> ...
[21:05:19] < Cricket_B> I got an E-mail form usuck@ti.com
[21:05:26] <+chronomex> lol
[21:05:30] <+tailsfan> lol
[21:05:32] < Barrett> no you didn't
[21:05:33] < Cricket_B> It said 'Stop harrassing us!!!'
[21:05:36] < prime38> i dont believe it
[21:05:37] <+tailsfan> lol
[21:05:40] < Cricket_B> I really did.
[21:05:46] < Barrett> no, you didn't
[21:05:50] < BrandonW> You have a real problem with lying and making up stuff here.
[21:05:52] <+Tari> pics or it didn't happen
[21:06:17] <@E-J> pics are always photoshopped
[21:06:41] < Cricket_B> If I show you a pic, you'd get my real name...
[21:06:45] < prime38> post the picture on exclusively on facebook
[21:07:06] < BrandonW> Everyone in this channel knows my name and address.
[21:07:12] < Cricket_B> Well, I deleted it...
[21:07:26] < Cricket_B> BrandonW, I only know your name and IP address
[21:07:36] < BrandonW> Everyone except you.
[21:07:39] < Cricket_B> Wait...I know your address
[21:07:45] <@E-J> i have even sended snailmail to brandon
[21:07:48] < Cricket_B> It's in the log...
[21:07:58] < BrandonW> Yes, it is.
[21:08:01] <+chronomex> E-J: me toozles
[21:08:02] <+Tari> I could find it
[21:08:04] < BrandonW> And yes, I have E-J's Voyage 200.
[21:08:07] <+Tari> without looking in the logs
[21:08:12] < BrandonW> And Barrett's Voyage 200.
[21:08:18] < BrandonW> I was going to suggest /whois on calcporn.com.
[21:08:41] < prime38> lol BrandonW
[21:08:45] <@E-J> everyone can find my address and my phone number from internet easily
[21:08:49] < prime38> i cant believe you registered that
[21:08:58] <+chronomex> it's awesome <3
[21:08:59] < BrandonW> Can you believe I'm really going to make the site?
[21:09:04] <+chronomex> I believe it
[21:09:08] <+TD-Linux> hurry BrandonW
[21:09:13] <+TD-Linux> you've been talking about it for like a year
[21:09:14] < prime38> i'll believe it when i see it
[21:09:16] <+chronomex> I believe in you, BrandonW!
[21:09:19] <+TD-Linux> poeple are already anxious with their wallets
[21:09:22] < BrandonW> I talk about everything for years. :(
[21:09:31] < prime38> have a teaser pic?
[21:09:33] <+chronomex> that's all right
[21:09:37] < prime38> to keep interest strong
[21:10:09] < BrandonW> I have the perfect hardcore image in my head.
[21:10:16] <+TD-Linux> ooh
[21:10:17] < BrandonW> I can't wait to put it on there.
[21:10:20] <+chronomex> when you gonna do it
[21:10:21] < Cricket_B> I wonder what would happen if EFNet had a power outage...
[21:10:23] <+TD-Linux> grab your interface cable
[21:10:34] <+TD-Linux> Cricket_B, you would dissapear, yay
[21:10:44] <+TD-Linux> because you would be the only one connected to the lame unreliable server
[21:10:54] <+chronomex> Cricket_B, it's called a netsplit
[21:10:57] <+TD-Linux> EFNet is made up of hundreds of servers
[21:11:23] <+TD-Linux> a netsplit is sorta different
[21:11:23] <+chronomex> TD-Linux: shut up he's on my server :'(
[21:11:24] < Cricket_B> I'm on Mzima
[21:11:34] < prime38> haha
[21:11:46] < prime38> chronomex <3 Cricket_B
[21:11:51] <+chronomex> Cricket_B: get off my lawn
[21:11:56] <+chronomex> damn kids
[21:11:56] < Cricket_B> Only one I could get to work with PIRCH98
[21:12:04] <+chronomex> double fail
[21:12:19] < Cricket_B> chronomex, U Fail
[21:12:26] < Cricket_B> 3x fail
[21:12:34] < Cricket_B> 1. On Mzima
[21:12:40] < Cricket_B> 2. On my lawn
[21:12:42] <+chronomex> I'm not going to even try to descend to your depths of stupidity
[21:12:43] <@E-J> "ti-84+ now with bare butt, only in calcporn.com"
[21:12:47] < Cricket_B> 3. Stepped in dog poo
[21:13:20] < Cricket_B> Wait, chronomex...
[21:13:28] < Cricket_B> Don't we have a shared lawn?
[21:13:32] < prime38> it this going to naked people next to their calculators, or innerds of calculators?
[21:13:33] <+chronomex> no, it's my lawn
[21:13:34] <+chronomex> gtfo
[21:13:41] < Cricket_B> It's my lawn.
[21:13:53] <+chronomex> damn kids think they own the place ...
[21:13:53] < Cricket_B> I am sending my crickets to eat you alive :D
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[21:14:29] < Cricket_B> No, eat chronomex, not Mwyann
[21:14:48] < prime38> the nick mwyann always reminds me of marwan from 24
[21:15:09] < prime38> and now it will do the same to you
[21:15:17] < prime38> if you have seen that season
[21:15:36] <+chronomex> prime38: no, I havent :)
[21:16:10] * Cricket_B 's crickets eat chronomex
[21:16:15] <+chronomex> fail
[21:16:36] < Cricket_B> y7y:
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[21:17:08] < Cricket_B> W5708e e48f34lll
[21:17:12] < Cricket_B> There.
[21:17:13] <+chronomex> kicking clones doesn't help
[21:17:48] < prime38_> he's dead anyways
[21:17:57] <+chronomex> mhm
[21:17:58] < Cricket_B> Is he a logger?
[21:18:05] <+chronomex> still doesn't do anything
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[21:20:18] < Cricket_B> Hello
[21:20:40] < Cricket_B> Hello?
[21:21:12] < Cricket_B> ...
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[21:22:18] < i_c-Y> Cricket_B: how old are you?
[21:23:13] * Cricket_B .age.Hide(); Returns BOOLEAN.True
[21:23:43] < prime38> i dont fucking compile what i read on the scenn
[21:23:47] < prime38> so dont do that again
[21:25:40] * Cricket_B .IQ.SetReadOnly(); Returns BOOLEAN.True
[21:26:29] <@E-J> one more and i will kick
[21:27:08] < Cricket_B> Why?
[21:27:09] < i_c-Y> act your age, not your shoe size, Cricket_B
[21:27:20] < i_c-Y> because you're annoying everyone else with that, and we dont like it.
[21:27:47] < Cricket_B> You shouldn't have asked my age...
[21:28:01] < Cricket_B> I'm in 8th grade, and have never been held back.
[21:28:10] < Cricket_B> I went to preschool
[21:28:23] < Cricket_B> That should supply you with enough information
[21:28:23] <+chronomex> yes, and there lies the problem
[21:28:28] <+chronomex> you're in 8th grade
[21:28:31] < Cricket_B> (It has been my birthday)
[21:28:35] < i_c-Y> act like a mature 11 year old then.
[21:28:41] <+chronomex> you're too young to participate gainfully here
[21:28:43] < i_c-Y> or 12 year old, or 13 year old.
[21:28:46] < Cricket_B> I'm older than 11
[21:28:53] < Cricket_B> And 12, and 13
[21:28:58] < Cricket_B> No more hints
[21:29:06] <+chronomex> you're 14 then
[21:29:12] <+chronomex> barely
[21:29:22] < BrandonW> Let's be careful here, folks...that's when Netham came around. If you treat him wrong, you'll unleash another upon us.
[21:29:47] < Cricket_B> I am not answering; ask Grant92 next time he comes...
[21:30:22] < Cricket_B> Andy_J?
[21:30:33] <@E-J> let's just face the fact that we all are too old to understand youngsters
[21:30:40] <+chronomex> haha
[21:30:55] < Cricket_B> I don't understand chronomex
[21:30:56] <@E-J> "when i was young..."
[21:31:00] < BrandonW> Now TI Connect is saying "Data: Value is invalid."
[21:31:10] < Cricket_B> Normal communication?
[21:31:22] < Cricket_B> Or, what are you doing?
[21:31:23] < BrandonW> No, I'm trying to simulate the direct USB protocol oncalc.
[21:31:23] * prime38 downloads the song "when you were young" by the killers
[21:32:14] < Cricket_B> It is doing proper communication, and your calls are to the BCALLS mentioned in USBdocs.txt?
[21:32:33] < Cricket_B> If so, I need this response from TI
[21:32:54] <@E-J> chronomex: epic fail :)
[21:32:58] <+chronomex> yeah :\
[21:33:04] < BrandonW> I'm doing something more advanced than that file.
[21:33:23] < Cricket_B> But it is using the calls and the procedure?
[21:33:40] < BrandonW> No, this is all my own code.
[21:33:59] < Cricket_B> But the calls and procedure would work, right?
[21:34:26] < BrandonW> That file works, yes.
[21:34:34] < Cricket_B> So I need the response
[21:36:35] < BrandonW> Yeah, what I'm doing has nothing to do with what you're doing.
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[21:38:47] < Cricket_B> We think that the pv (Byte) value is a pointer to the data?
[21:39:53] < Cricket_B> Who here disassembled TI CONNECT?
[21:40:02] < Cricket_B> Wait, nvr mind
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[21:41:22] < BrandonW> You people would not believe how much CRAP TI Connect requests every single time you try to link with it.
[21:41:25] < BrandonW> I could give you a list.
[21:41:35] < prime38> put it on calcporn
[21:41:35] < Cricket_B> I saw...
[21:41:44] < Cricket_B> 12 packets just to find it...
[21:44:44] < Cricket_B> There must be something we're missing
[21:45:03] < Cricket_B> There are only 256 (?) possibilities for pv
[21:45:47] < Cricket_B> What was that syntax again?
[21:46:08] < Cricket_B> [18:11] Sub Read(pv As Byte, cb As Long, pcbRead As Long)
[21:47:15] < Cricket_B> 256 Bytes = .25 KB
[21:47:36] < Cricket_B> Or actually it's 255 bytes
[21:47:39] < i_c-Y> ick, vb.
[21:48:22] < Cricket_B> Wait, cb might be Collection of Bytes
[21:48:50] < Cricket_B> No, there isn't 2 pointers to a byte collection...
[21:48:54] < Cricket_B> *aren't
[21:49:52] < Cricket_B> I'll (attempt to) disassemble a Calc DLL
[21:50:18] < i_c-Y> have fun with that.
[21:50:18] < Cricket_B> Those are the only 2 linking commands in the Stream DLLs
[21:52:00] < BrandonW> I ask you, is it important to know the local language of the calculator and how much RAM is physically installed before sending a Flash application?
[21:52:13] < Cricket_B> IDK
[21:52:27] < Cricket_B> I know the Archive free is needed
[21:52:30] < BrandonW> It's not important at all.
[21:53:46] <+Tari> the calc will reject a transfer if there's not enough space
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[21:56:13] < prime38> holy crap my client it freaking out
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[21:56:52] < BrandonW> Do you suppose it's also important to know if the screen is split horizontally or vertically?
[21:56:56] < BrandonW> I hate TI. I really do.
[21:57:01] <+chronomex> aww
[21:57:04] * chronomex hugs BrandonW
[21:57:54] < Cricket_B> The Stream components are associated with the Link component's SetStream command
[21:58:56] < Cricket_B> The Link component's actions are what use the Write and Read commands
[21:58:58] * i_c-Y invites BrandonW to the HP side
[21:59:33] <+Tari> you mean the DARK side
[21:59:44] <+chronomex> ...
[21:59:55] < Cricket_B> We know that the answer is in the Link components (TI*Talk.dll)
[22:00:33] < BrandonW> Apparently Ben's documentation is not enough.
[22:00:40] < BrandonW> TI Connect is choking waiting on one of his "Unknown"s...
[22:01:01] < BrandonW> *sigh* Back to the disassembly...
[22:01:14] < Cricket_B> I need to know the language the Link components were written in. That's the only way I can unassemble them...
[22:01:27] <+Tari> try.. C
[22:01:41] < Cricket_B> OK. Now, I need a C disassembler...
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[22:01:54] < Cricket_B> Let me extract the resource...
[22:01:55] <+chronomex> no, any disassembler will do
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[22:02:08] < Cricket_B> I still need to extract the resource...
[22:02:11] <+Tari> I'd do it for you, but TI's too cheap to to make 64 bit TI connect
[22:02:26] < Cricket_B> Let me get it extracted...
[22:02:50] <+TD-Linux> okay...
[22:02:50] < Cricket_B> Do you want all the resources in a .zip?
[22:03:01] <+Tari> I'll just take the dll
[22:03:05] < BrandonW> I can see why they needed the extra RAM pages to deal with this ridiculous protocol...
[22:03:06] <+TD-Linux> umm can't anyone else download a resource extractor exe?
[22:03:38] < Cricket_B> OK. C:\Program Files\Common Files\TI Shared\TalkTI\TI*Talk.DLL
[22:03:51] < Cricket_B> Those are the Link DLLs
[22:03:56] <+chronomex> you can't have * in a pathname in winidows
[22:03:59] <+chronomex> windows
[22:04:00] <+Tari> and I don't have TI connect installed
[22:04:11] < Cricket_B> Can I DCC it to you?
[22:04:33] <+Tari> you can try
[22:04:37] <+Tari> not sure if it'll work
[22:06:00] < Cricket_B> Attempting to send...
[22:06:01] < BrandonW> grrr...
[22:06:15] <+TD-Linux> hah
[22:06:16] < BrandonW> I found it, 76:50EBh on OS 2.41, but what a mess...
[22:06:21] <+TD-Linux> chronomex, you FAIL
[22:06:37] <+chronomex> TD-Linux: ?
[22:06:38] < Cricket_B> Wait; port 0???
[22:06:42] <+Tari> mmm, winidows
[22:06:53] < Cricket_B> I'll just link you to it
[22:06:57] <+TD-Linux> try actually interpreting what his * means next time
[22:07:56] < Cricket_B> http://72.129.89.238:1248/TI84PTALK.DLL
[22:09:03] < BrandonW> Good lord, it's certificate junk...
[22:09:18] < Cricket_B> lol
[22:09:52] <+TD-Linux> BrandonW, what are you doing meddling with the TI-OS?
[22:10:30] < BrandonW> I'm trying to duplicate the direct USB link protocol. So you can receive whatever you want through direct USB via TI Connect...ignore clock sets/resets, ignore variable transfers, etc.
[22:10:39] < BrandonW> It also lets two calculators link together.
[22:10:42] < BrandonW> Transfer files back and forth.
[22:10:51] < BrandonW> I'm basically just working on completing and documenting direct USB.
[22:10:54] < BrandonW> Because precious little is known.
[22:11:01] < BrandonW> This leads to direct USB games and stuff.
[22:11:36] < BrandonW> A direct USB unsigned OS receiver...
[22:11:38] < BrandonW> And other things.
[22:12:25] <+chronomex> oooh
[22:12:36] < BrandonW> And TI Connect requests a shitload of information every time it even checks to see if a calculator is connected.
[22:12:41] < BrandonW> Every variable transfer.
[22:13:02] < Cricket_B> I'm writing something similar; it would allow calc <--> PC games
[22:13:03] < BrandonW> It's apparently also requesting certificate data.
[22:13:13] < BrandonW> So I'm going to have to figure out what the hell it's doing and duplicate that, too.
[22:13:17] < BrandonW> Or else TI Connect won't be happy.
[22:13:43] <+Tari> I need to learn how to use IDA better
[22:14:08] < Cricket_B> Ditto, but RC, not DA
[22:14:11] <+Tari> oh, and it looks like this was created with microsoft VisualC
[22:14:24] < Cricket_B> Can you decompile it?
[22:15:32] <+chronomex> no
[22:15:49] <+TD-Linux> BrandonW, I know, it's horrible
[22:15:53] < i_c-Y> it would make sense if it was made with VC++ - its the best for windows overall.
[22:15:58] <+TD-Linux> it talkes about 2 minutes each time I use TI Connect
[22:16:03] <+TD-Linux> to grab all the info
[22:16:17] <+TD-Linux> it also crashes
[22:16:24] <+TD-Linux> for example on old Graph3
[22:16:25] < Cricket_B> BSoD?
[22:16:34] <+Tari> I'm working on it
[22:16:40] <+TD-Linux> no, it just hangs if you have magical characters in your app names
[22:16:43] <+Tari> need to figure out how to load hex-rays
[22:17:10] <+Tari> I've got a disassembly, but, y'know.. it's assembly
[22:17:18] < Cricket_B> LOL
[22:17:33] < Cricket_B> However, that wouldn't help much :)
[22:17:55] <+Tari> I'll have higher-level code once I figure out IDA
[22:18:02] < Cricket_B> IDA?
[22:18:22] < BrandonW> Interactive Disassembler.
[22:18:28] < Cricket_B> OK
[22:19:20] < Cricket_B> BrandonW, would a USB device which acts like a MSD work with USB8x?
[22:20:30] < BrandonW> More than likely.
[22:20:41] < Cricket_B> I have this VuGo (it sucks), and it can act as a MSD.
[22:20:50] < BrandonW> Hook it up and try it.
[22:20:52] < Cricket_B> I want to know if I can use it to back up the calc
[22:21:03] < Cricket_B> It has a miniUSB port on it
[22:21:11] < Cricket_B> I'll try the unit to unit
[22:21:13] <+Tari> ok, decompiling
[22:21:53] < Cricket_B> Can you link the 2 apps needed for me to test it?
[22:22:06] < Cricket_B> I need to find the cable
[22:22:07] < BrandonW> I'm not sure where the latest versions are anymore.
[22:22:14] < Cricket_B> TICalc.org?
[22:22:22] < Cricket_B> BRB
[22:22:24] < BrandonW> I'm sure it's somewhere in /calcstuff/
[22:22:34] < BrandonW> You're safe with http://usb8x.sourceforge.net/
[22:22:51] < Cricket_B> Back
[22:23:07] < i_c-Y> ick IDA
[22:23:20] < BrandonW> You have a problem with IDA?
[22:24:21] < i_c-Y> maybe.
[22:24:28] < i_c-Y> i just found it unwieldly.
[22:24:40] < BrandonW> And you have a better alternative?
[22:25:13] <+Tari> it's 1.5 MB of C code
[22:25:15] < i_c-Y> no, BrandonW
[22:25:16] <+Tari> working on pastebinning it
[22:25:21] < i_c-Y> i still use IDA.
[22:28:22] < Cricket_B> I'm getting 'Unable to send' errors...
[22:29:24] <+Tari> http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f=894ae4787695dda2d7219f1202d33eef
[22:29:39] <+Tari> there's the decompiled dll
[22:30:14] <+Tari> although it's not everything
[22:30:21] <+Tari> #error "There were 104 decompilation failure(s) on 2389 function(s)"
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[22:31:05] <@DarkAuron> ha
[22:31:22] < Cricket_B> Let me load that into iexplore, then reboot...
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[22:37:05] <+Nikky> ES-IV?
[22:37:10] <+Nikky> Looks like a status nick to me!
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[22:40:07] <@efneTI86> [Cricket_B] Chirp! Chirp! Chirp!
[22:40:17] < Cricket_B> Still won't work (USB8x)
[22:40:20] <+chronomex> hi Cricket_B !
[22:40:23] < Peter_W> ! No. Just, no. :O
[22:40:25] < Cricket_B> It won't download to the calc
[22:41:31] < Peter_W> Crickets keep me up at night during the late summer sometimes.. loud buggers in the field just south of my house
[22:42:01] <+chronomex> mhm
[22:42:10] <+chronomex> I hear you there
[22:42:33] < Cricket_B> Why won't it work?
[22:42:37] <@E-J> cricket is almost as boring game as baseball
[22:42:42] < MetalRand> I used to have cricket problems. Insecticide took care of that. :P
[22:42:49] < Peter_W> heh
[22:42:52] < BrandonW> This packet is absolutely insane. It's grabbing all sorts of certificate and OS information, signing it, and writing it all to the swap sector, and...just, I don't know.
[22:42:52] <+chronomex> exterminator?
[22:43:09] < Cricket_B> The files won't send to the calc
[22:43:17] < Peter_W> MetalRand: Ever try that on an entire field?
[22:43:17] < Cricket_B> I'll try a different app
[22:43:21] <+chronomex> Cricket_B: why'd you quit earlier?
[22:43:29] < Cricket_B> Had to reboot the computer
[22:43:30] < Peter_W> Not to mention the spread of toxic chemicals..
[22:43:38] <+chronomex> mmm
[22:43:51] <+chronomex> what was the problem?
[22:44:03] <+chronomex> (may I recommend a good dose of Linux?)
[22:44:10] <+Nikky> linux sucks balls
[22:44:17] <+chronomex> yeah, that explains why you use it
[22:44:24] <+chronomex> teabagger
[22:44:25] <+Nikky> precisely
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[22:46:24] < Cricket_B> What is the clipboard function in Omnicalc?
[22:47:29] <+Nikky> Read the documentation
[22:47:39] < BrandonW> Beat me to it. :(
[22:47:49] <+Nikky> :)
[22:51:01] < Barrett> ..
[22:51:02] < Barrett> U
[22:51:34] < Barrett> doesn't work if you use a fixed width font
[22:51:39] < Barrett> otherwise that is the coolest smiley in the world
[22:51:53] <+chronomex> uhhuh
[22:51:55] < MetalRand> I have a fixed-width font, and it still does not look riht.
[22:51:58] <+Tari> NO U
[22:52:11] < Barrett> MetalRand...
[22:52:12] <+Nikky> MetalRand: "doesn't work if you use a fixed width font"
[22:52:24] < MetalRand> I said nothing.
[22:52:49] < Barrett> . .
[22:52:50] < Barrett> U
[22:52:54] < Barrett> is that better for you?
[22:53:00] <+chronomex> yes
[22:53:02] < Barrett> or does your client ignore leading spaces?
[22:53:03] <+chronomex> but a bit walleyed
[22:53:04] < Cricket_B> I didn't see it in the documentation
[22:53:28] < BrandonW> I find it EXTREMELY disturbing that TI Connect is potentially causing the calculator erase the swap/certificate sectors on every link.
[22:53:35] < BrandonW> to erase*
[22:53:35] < Cricket_B> Nothing wants to send to the calc
[22:53:44] <+chronomex> that is disturbing
[22:54:43] < BrandonW> If I can confirm that's actually happening, TI and I are going to have some words.
[22:55:07] <+chronomex> if you can get them to talk to you
[22:55:35] < Cricket_B> Cannot establish a valaid connection...
[22:55:40] < Cricket_B> *misspelled
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[22:57:05] <+Tari> I has mail!
[22:57:18] <+Tari> aww, not from valve
[22:58:25] < Cricket_B> Does a self test erase archive?
[22:58:47] < Netham45> yes
[22:58:53] < Netham45> Tari, why are you mailing valve?
[22:59:00] <+Tari> support
[22:59:00] < Cricket_B> Does it?
[22:59:07] < Netham45> Cricket_B, YES!
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[22:59:22] < Cricket_B> BrandonW, does it?
[22:59:28] <+chronomex> 15:59:22 < Netham45> Cricket_B, YES!
[22:59:30] < MetalRand> Yes.
[22:59:42] < Cricket_B> I'm asking BrandonW
[22:59:49] <+chronomex> well
[22:59:51] < Netham45> BrandonW, please !k yes
[22:59:54] < Netham45> erm
[22:59:54] <+chronomex> you're an idiot
[22:59:56] <+chronomex> lol
[22:59:59] < Netham45> please !k Cricket_B yes
[23:00:20] < Netham45> Cricket_B, if you don't believe me, do it and see for yourself.
[23:00:37] < Cricket_B> Does it, BrandonW?
[23:00:43] <+Nikky> It sometimes does, yes
[23:00:46] < MetalRand> !k Netham45 no
[23:00:47] < MetalRand> :P
[23:00:55] * Netham45 smacks Cricket_B's head into a door
[23:01:06] < Netham45> Nikky, sometimes? always.
[23:01:10] < BrandonW> I don't think the self test erases the archive.
[23:01:13] < BrandonW> The boot code self test does.
[23:01:14] <+Nikky> Too bad it didn't for me
[23:01:15] < BrandonW> But not the OS one.
[23:01:21] < Netham45> well, provided you let it progress far enough.
[23:01:26] < Cricket_B> Where's the OS one?
[23:01:32] < Netham45> BrandonW, the OS one being holding clear on boot?
[23:01:34] < BrandonW> MODE+ALPHA+S.
[23:01:35] <+Nikky> Tards
[23:01:38] < BrandonW> Oh, and...
[23:01:41] < BrandonW> !k Netham45 yes
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[23:01:45] < Netham45> \o/
[23:01:48] < Cricket_B> That one doesn't erase the archive?
[23:02:04] < BrandonW> Netham45, the OS one being MODE+ALPHA+S. Holding clear on boot would be...the boot one.
[23:02:10] < BrandonW> Actually, it's holding MODE.
[23:02:17] < BrandonW> Holding clear just doesn't restore the archive VAT entries.
[23:02:24] < Netham45> ah, ok.
[23:02:31] < BrandonW> The data is still there.
[23:02:33] < Cricket_B> Mode Alpha S doesn't erase the archive?
[23:02:36] < BrandonW> Recoverable as long as you dont' garbage collect.
[23:02:37] < BrandonW> Correct.
[23:03:00] < Cricket_B> After I do that, I would still have everything?
[23:03:06] < BrandonW> In the archive.
[23:03:14] < Cricket_B> And in the VAT?
[23:03:16] < BrandonW> It's just like a RAM reset.
[23:03:18] < Netham45> Cricket_B, your RAM would get cleared for sure.
[23:03:50] < Cricket_B> How long does it take?
[23:04:02] < Cricket_B> How high must it count to?
[23:04:05] < Netham45> doesn't it loop until you remove batteries?
[23:04:15] < Barrett> how long can a laptop last in sleep?
[23:04:25] < Netham45> Barrett, until the battery dies.
[23:04:32] < Barrett> really?
[23:04:33] < BrandonW> It loops forever.
[23:04:43] < Cricket_B> How high must I wait?
[23:04:47] < Barrett> so as soon as the battery dies it turns off? interesting
[23:04:51] < BrandonW> Unless, of course, you fail one of the tests.
[23:05:03] < Cricket_B> How many tests?
[23:05:09] < BrandonW> I don't remember...
[23:05:12] < Cricket_B> It's at 16
[23:05:13] < Barrett> no, but... like... will it last 5x as long as it would being turned on all the way?
[23:05:15] < Barrett> 2x?
[23:05:16] < Barrett> 10x?
[23:05:19] < BrandonW> There's RAM, Flash, and probably a couple of others.
[23:05:28] < Netham45> Barrett, depends completely on the laptop.
[23:05:29] < BrandonW> There's a calc ID check.
[23:05:33] < BrandonW> And something else, I forget.
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[23:05:39] < Cricket_B> How high should I let it count to?
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[23:05:42] < BrandonW> Oh yeah, the OS checksum.
[23:05:48] < Cricket_B> It's at 22
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[23:05:51] < BrandonW> Cricket_B, this is a stupid thing to do, it will count forever. Just reset.
[23:06:18] < BrandonW> If it makes it through once, it's probably okay.
[23:06:24] < Netham45> the 'S' in Mode Alpha S stands for stupid.
[23:06:33] < BrandonW> You passed the checksum and calc ID checks, and your RAM and Flash worked at least once.
[23:07:07] < BrandonW> If you modify the OS at all, the checksum will fail, and if you erase your certificate or otherwise screw up your calc ID, that'll fail, too.
[23:07:12] < Cricket_B> I can't get it to connect...
[23:07:27] < BrandonW> Using TI Connect garbage, that's no surprise.
[23:07:44] < Cricket_B> Yesterday, I could, however
[23:08:06] < Com125> TiLP > TI Connect
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[23:08:40] < Cricket_B> It won't connect today
[23:08:52] < BrandonW> Yeah, well, yesterday it wouldn't freaking hang on me if I tried to send an already-existing app...
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[23:12:32] < Gr|m> ok ok u guys r going to love this one
[23:12:42] < Gr|m> ready?
[23:12:47] < Cricket_B> !k Gr|m?
[23:12:48] <+chronomex> ... uh ok?
[23:12:58] <+chronomex> at this point it can't get much worse
[23:13:16] < Gr|m> ok I need an example of anti-semitism in europe PRE WWII, other than the dreyfus affair
[23:13:49] < prime38> Nikky's great great great grandfather
[23:14:00] < Gr|m> And no Cricket_B, no kicky.
[23:14:09] < Cricket_B> BrandonW, it was working yesterday.
[23:14:18] < BrandonW> Means nothing.
[23:14:19] < Com125> use TiLP
[23:14:21] < Cricket_B> Now, it can't establish a working connection
[23:14:59] <+Nikky> Cricket_B: Stop doing !k
[23:15:15] < i_c-Y> go look at wiki, Gr|m . theres a ton of examples - everyone hates jews
[23:15:51] < BrandonW> "Dentists...who needs 'em?" "Yeah...especially the blacks and the Jews."
[23:15:56] < BrandonW> Seinfle.d
[23:15:58] < BrandonW> Seinfeld.*
[23:16:13] < Gr|m> Lol..
[23:16:48] < Gr|m> How about the Duchy government in France or the Nazi influence in Northern Italy?
[23:16:49] < Cricket_B> Why won't the calc connect?
[23:17:17] < BrandonW> Cricket_B, no one knows. TI Connect is a piece of crap, and only random magic and playing with it will fix it.
[23:17:19] < BrandonW> Asking again won't help.
[23:17:23] < BrandonW> Against AGAIN won't help.
[23:17:25] < BrandonW> And asking after that won't help.
[23:17:35] < BrandonW> Asking*
[23:17:35] <+Tari> animal sacrifices might help
[23:17:37] <@E-J> Gr|m: look for edward I of england
[23:17:57] <@E-J> if 1290 is enough pre-WWII
[23:18:14] < BrandonW> lol
[23:18:27] < Gr|m> Lol
[23:18:30] < Gr|m> I was thinking about that
[23:18:50] < Gr|m> We are looking for late 19th century to end of WWII tho
[23:19:06] < Cricket_B> Wait!
[23:19:19] < Cricket_B> Mabey I should try to fix the DLL
[23:19:32] < Cricket_B> With a re-install
[23:20:01] < Gr|m> Why not just extract it from the installation exe to avoid installing it all again..
[23:20:17] < Cricket_B> Fix
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[23:21:20] <@efneTI86> [Spengo] We do what we must because we can
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[23:22:29] < Gr|m> For the good of those who are still alive
[23:23:37] <@E-J> Gr|m: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menahem_Mendel_Beilis
[23:25:33] < Gr|m> E-J: Thanks, I like it.. but my teacher apparently foresaw us using that and excluded that year...
[23:25:38] < Cricket_B> An install repair worked
[23:26:17] <+patz2009> Anyone know of some free MIDI editing software for Windows?
[23:26:18] < BrandonW> I'm able to transfer programs, but not Flash applications yet. That same packet is being sent with both, but apparently TI Connect doesn't care when you're sending a RAM program.
[23:26:26] < BrandonW> So this is proof that TI Connect erases Flash sectors with every transfer.
[23:26:31] < BrandonW> I must publicize this.
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[23:26:48] <+Tari> yes
[23:26:58] <+Tari> expose TI's web of lies!
[23:27:03] < Cricket_B> Why is that bad?
[23:27:17] < BrandonW> Because unnecessary and constant erasing of Flash sectors can wear it out over time.
[23:27:19] <+patz2009> It'll wear out your flash memory quickly.
[23:27:47] < Cricket_B> It might not even be able to wear out
[23:28:21] < BrandonW> It happens.
[23:28:22] <+patz2009> Modern flash memory does.
[23:28:25] < BrandonW> 10,000 erase cycles.
[23:28:31] <+tailsfan> k
[23:28:35] < BrandonW> Or 100,000.
[23:28:36] < BrandonW> Something like that.
[23:28:41] < Gr|m> Lol
[23:28:58] <+Tari> 10 years with 23 erases per day
[23:29:04] <+tailsfan> k
[23:29:14] <+tailsfan> even I.....
[23:29:19] <+patz2009> BrandonW: How messed up can you make the calculator with software?
[23:29:25] <+tailsfan> who imports from my cam a lot...
[23:29:35] < Cricket_B> USBDRV8X?
[23:29:38] <+Tari> patz2009, erase OS and certificate
[23:29:51] < BrandonW> I can screw up the certificate on an 84+/SE to the point that you can't even load the TI-OS.
[23:30:11] < Cricket_B> Where is USBDRV8X?
[23:30:15] <+patz2009> So, I guess mine wasn't too bad then. :P
[23:30:16] < BrandonW> The only way to fix this is by the boot code exploit, which hasn't been implemented except in a calc<->calc program I wrote a while back.
[23:30:25] < BrandonW> Cricket_B, I said http://usb8x.sourceforge.net/
[23:33:49] <@E-J> BrandonW: apparently you have extremely patient
[23:33:51] <@E-J> are*
[23:34:12] < BrandonW> You guys would have killed him a long time ago if I weren't.
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[23:35:14] < Gr|m> Curse Ctrl-W
[23:35:28] <@E-J> try alt-f4
[23:35:35] < Gr|m> Hmmm
[23:35:49] < Gr|m> Press f10 for free hacks
[23:36:29] <+Tari> alt-f4 turns on wallhacks
[23:36:58] < Cricket_B> Yes
[23:37:45] < Gr|m> I think that we should discuss women's involvement in European economies and politics from 1914 to 1939...
[23:38:17] < BrandonW> I think we should discuss TI's abhorrent disregard for the life of our Flash chips in exchange for being lazy with writing TI Connect.
[23:38:20] < Gr|m> How about Rosie the Riviter
[23:38:33] < Gr|m> I agree BrandonW, you should rewrite the whole flashing app
[23:39:06] < BrandonW> There's no such capability to do this with I/O, so if you guys can help it, stick with a cable other than direct USB.
[23:39:24] < Gr|m> So it reflashes all your memory every time you add a program?
[23:39:39] < i_c-Y> oh?
[23:39:45] < BrandonW> It erases the swap sector
[23:39:47] < BrandonW> .
[23:39:56] < BrandonW> Every time.
[23:40:05] < Cricket_B> When I try the Calc <--> VuGo communication, the VuGo reports the calc is connected for a short time, then stops
[23:40:23] < Gr|m> Cricket you're not having a good day are you
[23:40:37] < BrandonW> What application are you running on the 84+SE while doing that, Cricket_B?
[23:40:39] <+Tari> <3 silverlink, then
[23:40:40] < Cricket_B> I'm experimenting with USB
[23:40:44] <+tailsfan> k
[23:40:51] < Cricket_B> BrandonW, USB8x.
[23:40:54] <+tailsfan> i have an 84+
[23:40:57] < BrandonW> Okay, you don't run that...
[23:40:59] < BrandonW> You run msd8x.
[23:41:04] < Cricket_B> Then, I start MSD8X to get the message
[23:41:13] < BrandonW> What message do you get?
[23:41:22] < BrandonW> The error code.
[23:41:27] < BrandonW> At the top left corner.
[23:41:31] < Cricket_B> On the VuGo, USB Connected, but only for a short period of time
[23:41:40] < BrandonW> I don't care, what's on the 84+SE?
[23:42:02] < Cricket_B> The top-left character was a White-on-black 'A'
[23:42:07] < Gr|m> Mmmk thx all TTFN <3 c u in a week or so
[23:42:08] < BrandonW> Get new batteries.
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[23:42:18] < Cricket_B> It forze at the Apps screen
[23:42:22] < Cricket_B> *froze
[23:42:41] < BrandonW> USB doesn't work so well unless the batteries are new.
[23:43:02] < Cricket_B> The VuGo is a self-powered USB device
[23:43:11] < BrandonW> It doesn't matter.
[23:43:13] < BrandonW> Just do what I said.
[23:43:56] < Cricket_B> New batteries, still doesn't work
[23:44:51] < BrandonW> Do you just see a blinking cursor over a character on the 84+SE?
[23:45:01] < BrandonW> Did you really try new batteries or are you just making that up?
[23:45:35] < Cricket_B> dNow, I have error 1217
[23:46:11] < Cricket_B> *Now
[23:46:49] < Cricket_B> Why?
[23:46:53] < BrandonW> That's odd.
[23:47:00] < BrandonW> Download USBTools from http://usb8x.sourceforge.net/
[23:47:16] < BrandonW> Run that and choose Descriptors, then try 1) Device and 2) Config and see if they error out.
[23:47:31] < Cricket_B> But now, the VuGo is displaying a connected screen
[23:47:50] < BrandonW> It may just be saying that because it's been initialized.
[23:47:56] < BrandonW> But it still didn't work as it should have.
[23:48:00] < Cricket_B> ...it's stuck at the error screen
[23:48:29] < BrandonW> Do you want me to try and fix this for you?
[23:48:43] < Cricket_B> Why? What do you mean?
[23:48:50] < BrandonW> So that you can use msd8x with your drive.
[23:49:09] < Cricket_B> Fix as in rewrite or step-by-step?
[23:49:22] < BrandonW> Fix as in find out what's wrong and then I'll code the fix for it and give it to you.
[23:49:34] < Cricket_B> Well, I just reset ram
[23:49:43] < Cricket_B> I'll download that and try it
[23:49:57] < BrandonW> I told you to get it so that we can fixi t.
[23:49:58] < BrandonW> fix it.*
[23:50:03] < BrandonW> If you don't want me to, I'm not going to waste my time.
[23:50:05] < BrandonW> That's why I'm asking.
[23:50:10] < BrandonW> If you want me to fix it or not.
[23:50:25] < Cricket_B> No, I couldn't just a while ago because the calc froze at the error screen
[23:51:31] < BrandonW> You did try new batteries, right?
[23:52:42] < Cricket_B> Yes
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[23:53:54] < Cricket_B> Device froze
[23:54:22] < BrandonW> It froze when choosing Device or Config from Descriptors in USBTools?
[23:54:41] < Cricket_B> It didn't freeze at Config
[23:54:45] < Cricket_B> Interfaces:1
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[23:54:52] < Cricket_B> Cfg Value:1
[23:54:57] < Cricket_B> Self Powered
[23:54:59] < BrandonW> Okay, but it froze on Device?
[23:55:02] < Cricket_B> Max Power: 0
[23:55:17] < Cricket_B> I'll try it again
[23:55:25] < BrandonW> Yes or no.
[23:55:25] < Cricket_B> It didn't now
[23:55:42] < Cricket_B> Before, it did, but not now
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[23:55:55] < BrandonW> What does Max Packet Size say?
[23:56:01] < BrandonW> It says something like "Max Packet"...
[23:56:01] < Cricket_B> 20
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[23:56:16] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Tari] by etaonrish, efneTI92
[23:56:16] < _Digital> boo, back from shooting a wedding
[23:56:25] < BrandonW> Go through the Config one, what does it say it is there?
[23:56:42] < Cricket_B> Wait, how?
[23:56:51] < Cricket_B> Config menu?
[23:57:01] < BrandonW> Choose 2) Config, does it say anything like "Max Packet" at any point?
[23:57:17] < i_c-Y> _Digital: did you shoot the bride and the groom?
[23:57:19] < Cricket_B> 40 on the 3rd screen
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[23:57:25] < i_c-Y> ;)
[23:57:27] < i_c-Y> bad joke.
[23:57:31] < BrandonW> What does the third screen say?
[23:57:35] < BrandonW> Like the first line.
[23:57:43] < Cricket_B> Endpoint Desc
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[23:58:12] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Tari] by etaonrish
[23:58:39] < Cricket_B> Now what?
[23:58:52] < BrandonW> Alright, go back to 1) Device and tell me what it says for Class/SubClass/Protocol?
[23:58:58] < BrandonW> Protocol.*
[23:59:12] < Cricket_B> 00, 00, 00
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