--- Log opened Fri Apr 11 00:00:00 2008
[00:00:24] < tifreak73> lol
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[00:00:54] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v tifreak] by efneTI86
[00:00:54] <+Nikky> cool BrandonW :)
[00:03:04] < Barrett> what's a q00b?
[00:04:09] < BrandonW> A GameCube modchip.
[00:05:29] <+tifreak> nifty
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[00:10:55] < BrandonW> Apparently I'm having trouble finding instructions on what to solder.
[00:11:04] < BrandonW> Does NO ONE care about the GameCube anymore?!
[00:11:11] < BrandonW> There should be at least some nut on the internet.
[00:11:23] <+tifreak> lol
[00:11:29] <+tifreak> nope, I has a Wii :P
[00:13:59] <+Nikky> gamecube?
[00:14:03] <+Nikky> What is what
[00:14:14] <@Andy_J> ^
[00:14:24] <@Andy_J> last-generation is so 2 years ago
[00:14:36] <@Andy_J> except for the ps2, that's still current enough to matter for a few things
[00:15:07] <+Nikky> the PS2 blows
[00:15:26] <@Andy_J> it's only good for guitar hero customs anymore
[00:15:30] <@E-J> nes ftw!
[00:15:32] <@Andy_J> and even then GH3/PC makes it a lot easier
[00:15:38] <@E-J> everything else is for losers
[00:15:41] <@Andy_J> but that's using GH3 which sucks in and of itself
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[00:40:40] < BrandonW> These are some small soldering points.
[00:40:48] < BrandonW> I'm starting to remember why I blocked out the memory of doing it the first time.
[00:41:19] < prime38_> did you break the first one?
[00:41:24] < BrandonW> No.
[00:41:48] < prime38_> btw, before i got disconnected i was going to say you could try #wii-hack
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[00:43:38] < BrandonW> I found the diagram.
[00:43:59] < BrandonW> This is an extremely old revision.
[00:44:08] < BrandonW> I've never seen a board look this dated.
[00:48:39] < prime38> what are you planning to use your qoob for?
[00:50:50] < DA|ES-IV> yay, painting world
[00:57:17] < BrandonW> prime38, I was going to add an SD slot and use it as a small Linux machine.
[00:58:00] < prime38> i tried adding a sd slot to my router
[00:58:15] < prime38> it would never recognize anything was there though
[00:58:40] < BrandonW> DD-WRT?
[00:58:44] < prime38> yes
[00:59:01] < Cricket_B> I need a hook manager
[00:59:08] < Cricket_B> My calc isn't productive
[00:59:17] < BrandonW> Write one.
[00:59:25] < Cricket_B> MirageOS uses undisabelable hooks
[00:59:39] < Cricket_B> (I do not know the hook format)
[00:59:59] < Cricket_B> I also need a COM link cable
[01:00:26] < BrandonW> Buy one off eBay.
[01:00:29] <+chronomex> straight or nullmodem?
[01:00:30] < BrandonW> Or make one.
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[01:00:52] < Cricket_B> chronomex: TI-BLACKLINK
[01:01:16] < Cricket_B> Is nullmodem double-female?
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[01:02:17] <+tifreak> i have like, 5 black links :P
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[01:02:51] < Cricket_B> BrandonW, If I have the required resistors and diodes, could I stick some pins in one end of an old LEGO MINDSTORMS Transcever link cable and make an male-type miniaudio jack?
[01:03:02] < Cricket_B> (for the calc end)
[01:03:26] < Cricket_B> The trancever link is double-female 9-pin
[01:03:36] < Cricket_B> It's orientation doesn't matter
[01:03:42] < Cricket_B> (as in which end)
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[01:04:03] < Cricket_B> Noooooooo!!!!!!
[01:04:52] < BrandonW> I have no idea because I never had a Lego Mindstorms kit.
[01:05:10] < Cricket_B> That doesn't really matter
[01:05:19] < BrandonW> Yeah, it does.
[01:05:23] < BrandonW> Because I can't even picture what you're asking.
[01:05:44] < Cricket_B> Double-ended female-type serial cable, 9 pins
[01:06:01] < Cricket_B> Long and light grey
[01:06:14] < Cricket_B> Has lable on it with number 71793
[01:06:48] < Cricket_B> When it gets plugged into the transmitter/reciever, there is no need to plug it in in a special way
[01:06:50] < BrandonW> How does that help anything? For goodness' sakes, use eBay for once or take a trip to Radio Shack and buy all the necessary parts, which I know they stock.
[01:07:01] < Cricket_B> (as in one end MUST go to the computer)
[01:08:07] < Cricket_B> In MirageOS 1.2, what does Save the Whales do, or does it not do anything?
[01:08:36] < BrandonW> It does nothing but set a bit in the appvar.
[01:08:37] < prime38> no one knows
[01:08:49] < prime38> no one has even tried to investigate the setting
[01:08:56] < BrandonW> Shut up, prime38...
[01:08:58] < BrandonW> I've investigated it.
[01:09:05] < prime38> wha what!
[01:09:09] < prime38> j/k i know
[01:09:34] < BrandonW> Unbelievable the misinformation that runs rampant in this channel.
[01:10:01] < Cricket_B> !last spoke Andy_J
[01:10:02] < Cricket_B> (the log of #tcpa got encrypted somehow, re-started the log)
[01:10:05] <+tifreak> lol
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[01:10:31] < Cricket_B> Exploiter, any exploits in the iPhone?
[01:10:32] < prime38> !last spoke Andy_J
[01:10:39] < Cricket_B> (Grant92 has one)
[01:10:42] < Exploiter> >_>
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[01:10:58] < Cricket_B> Nicks say a lot about people
[01:11:00] <+chronomex> !lastspoke someone intelligent
[01:11:09] < Exploiter> i take it was gloating about my iphone in here? xD
[01:11:14] < Cricket_B> COM125's computer seems to have a COM1 port
[01:11:26] <+chronomex> wow, '86 must be looking far in the past
[01:11:34] < BrandonW> The iPhone has enough exploits.
[01:11:45] < glk1> I am waiting for the wide screen iPhone
[01:11:45] <+chronomex> we need some for the Nspire, right?
[01:11:50] < BrandonW> Yes.
[01:11:56] < prime38> i have one!
[01:11:57] <+chronomex> glk1: you mean the size of a 12inch metal ruler?
[01:11:58] < Exploiter> i actually haven't modded my iphone
[01:12:02] < Cricket_B> glk1, rotate it 90 degrees
[01:12:04] < Exploiter> not sure if i'm going ot
[01:12:05] < Exploiter> to*
[01:12:23] < Cricket_B> Most things let you
[01:12:50] <+Nikky> whores
[01:13:03] < Com125> :/
[01:13:09] < Cricket_B> Did anyone see Chirp_B here before 1:00PDT today?
[01:13:16] <+chronomex> !qadd <glk1> I am waiting for the wide screen iPhone
[01:13:17] <+chronomex> no
[01:13:18] <@efneTI86> Quote 1253 added
[01:13:20] < Cricket_B> That was frome that iPhone
[01:13:30] <+chronomex> there was no chirp_b earlier today
[01:13:32] < Cricket_B> *from
[01:13:36] < Cricket_B> K.
[01:13:42] <+Nikky> yes there was
[01:13:43] < Cricket_B> Wasn't working, anyway
[01:13:47] < Cricket_B> ???
[01:13:47] <+chronomex> there wasn't
[01:13:52] < Cricket_B> (Nikky)
[01:13:52] <+Nikky> THERE WAS
[01:13:57] <+Nikky> !seennick chirp_b
[01:13:58] <@efneTI86> Chirp_B (a6be606d@166.190.96.109) was last seen quitting from #tcpa 5 hours, 38 minutes ago stating (Client Quit).
[01:14:06] <+chronomex> !fuckyou
[01:14:07] < Cricket_B> I'll look @ the uncorrupted part of the log...
[01:14:08] < prime38> that doesnt prove anything
[01:14:27] <+chronomex> !q
[01:14:27] <@efneTI86> 807: <sjrberg> <--desktop | <sjrberg_> <--server | <Nikky> <-- horse porn | <_3fg><-- wants what Nikky has/is [Added: KevinJB at 2006/11/29 17:13]
[01:14:34] < Cricket_B> That looks right...
[01:14:50] < Cricket_B> (the exit time)
[01:15:19] <+tifreak> o.O
[01:15:22] <+tifreak> O.o
[01:15:22] < prime38> stacysmom(got it going on)
[01:15:48] < prime38> hdsf
[01:15:58] < prime38> whoops sorry
[01:16:21] < Cricket_B> !lastspoke Andy_J
[01:16:34] <+chronomex> Cricket_B: DIAF
[01:16:40] < prime38> HA
[01:16:42] < Cricket_B> DIAF???
[01:16:45] < prime38> i like that scronym
[01:16:48] < prime38> *acronym
[01:16:53] <+chronomex> me too :)
[01:16:54] < prime38> i will have to start using it more
[01:17:03] < prime38> as i know exactly what you mean
[01:17:09] <+chronomex> I have the perfect opportunity for you :P
[01:17:19] < Cricket_B> It isn't bad if it's meaning isn't known by the target...
[01:17:29]  * Cricket_B = target
[01:17:37] <+chronomex> no, I didn't shoot you
[01:17:41] < Cricket_B> ?
[01:17:41] <+chronomex> .. yet
[01:17:45] < Cricket_B> !
[01:17:53]  * Cricket_B is not a target
[01:17:59] <+chronomex> make like a manatee and stop typing
[01:18:06] < Cricket_B> Hey, shoot that bull's eye
[01:19:55] <+chronomex> but I bet you had to google it though
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[01:20:00] <+chronomex> I have a suggestion, Cricket_B
[01:20:04] <+chronomex> try Gigablast next time
[01:20:05] <+chronomex> it's prettier
[01:20:08] < Cricket_B> ?
[01:20:14] < Cricket_B> Gigablast?
[01:20:26] <+chronomex> jfgi
[01:20:41] < Cricket_B> ?
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[01:21:10] < BrandonW> As much as you love acronyms, you'd think you'd know some of these.
[01:21:20] < Cricket_B> I'll make a client-side script which will decrypt acronyms for me
[01:21:34] < BrandonW> No, stay away from scripts.
[01:21:38] < Cricket_B> let's see...
[01:21:41] < BrandonW> That's what makes script kiddies.
[01:21:43] < BrandonW> Don't be like that.
[01:21:52] < Cricket_B> JFGI = Randomist is dumb
[01:21:53] < Cricket_B> :D
[01:21:58] < Netham45> I've never even been a script kiddie.
[01:22:05] < BrandonW> You ARE a script kiddie.
[01:22:11] <+chronomex> lol
[01:22:12] < Cricket_B> No, he's not
[01:22:12] < Netham45> what'd I script?
[01:22:19] < Cricket_B> He's a script BABY
[01:22:29] <+chronomex> !k Cricket_B you're one to talk
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[01:22:58] < Cricket_B> It was worth it
[01:23:09] <+chronomex> Cricket_B: welcome back to my /ignore list
[01:23:24] < Cricket_B> I do not see your ignore list
[01:23:36] <+chronomex> I feel better already :)
[01:23:41] < Netham45> chronomex, good idea!
[01:23:51] < Cricket_B> My ignore list doesn't work
[01:23:53] <+chronomex> I'm full of it
[01:23:55] <+chronomex> erm, full of them
[01:23:57] < Netham45> serenity...
[01:24:01] < Cricket_B> Netham45 still gets through
[01:25:04] < Cricket_B> I will completely block out Randomist and Netham45
[01:25:13] <+Nikky> okay hint
[01:25:18] <+Nikky> Don't tell us who you ignore
[01:25:27] <+chronomex> I usually don't
[01:25:34] <+chronomex> but sometimes it's too satisfying
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[01:25:42] < Netham45> lol
[01:25:51] < Cricket_B> Didn't work...
[01:26:09] < Cricket_B> BRB
[01:27:29] < Cricket_B> Back
[01:28:49] < Cricket_B> Netham45
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[01:29:22] < Cricket_B> Did they speak?
[01:30:18] < Cricket_B> Nikky
[01:30:39] < Cricket_B> /ignore *!*@*.* is your best friend
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[01:31:28] < BrandonW> chronomex, no one cares about your ignore list. it's silly to broadcast that.
[01:31:36] < BrandonW> Oh, Nikky beat me to it.
[01:31:38] <+chronomex> I know, I apologize
[01:31:43] < BrandonW> I apologize, too.
[01:31:45] <+tifreak> lol
[01:31:52] < Cricket_B> !lastspoke Netham45
[01:31:57] <+chronomex> I think I'll get some ice cream
[01:32:02] < Cricket_B> LOL
[01:32:07] <+chronomex> actually it's approaching dinnertime
[01:33:42]  * Cricket_B is bored
[01:34:26] < Cricket_B> What is the format for a keyhook? Where are they stored?
[01:34:59] < Cricket_B> Can someone tell me everything I need to know to make a keyhook manager?
[01:35:30] <+tifreak> jfgi?
[01:35:47] < Cricket_B> I know Randomist is dumb
[01:36:20] <+tifreak> I am sure if you went through the .inc files, and looked around at some tutorials, you will be able to get this information yourself
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[01:37:09] < Cricket_B> !
[01:37:18] < Cricket_B> 2 Andy_J s?
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[01:37:33] < Cricket_B> 2 Andy_J ops?
[01:37:58] < Cricket_B> I'm going crazy
[01:38:31] <@Andy_J_> ...
[01:38:45] < Cricket_B> Make your keyhook manager
[01:38:46] <@Andy_J_> why do you bug me so?
[01:38:49] < Cricket_B> I need it
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[01:39:12] <@Andy_J_> oh well? it'll get done whn I have more than a day of free time at once
[01:39:23] < Cricket_B> You're on IRC.
[01:39:29] < Cricket_B> I think you have free time
[01:39:46] < Cricket_B> At least tell me how I can make one
[01:40:59] < Cricket_B> Please?
[01:41:49] < Cricket_B> efneTI80, 1+1=?
[01:41:58] < Cricket_B> Wait...
[01:42:07] < Cricket_B> TI-80s can't do math
[01:43:26] < Cricket_B> seen Randomist
[01:43:27] <@efneTI86> I don't know who Randomist is.
[01:43:42] < Cricket_B> seen Randeimos
[01:43:44] <@efneTI86> Randeimos was last on IRC channel #tcpa 49 days, 4 hours, 16 minutes ago.
[01:44:31] < Cricket_B> Who is banned?
[01:44:50] <@Andy_J_> /mode #tcpa +b
[01:44:55] <@Andy_J_> look for yourself
[01:45:42] < Cricket_B> Andy_J?
[01:45:50] < Cricket_B> Why are you on the list?
[01:46:33] <@Andy_J_> There are no bans...
[01:48:32] < Cricket_B> seen Fire-guy
[01:48:33] <@efneTI86> I don't know who Fire-guy is.
[01:48:35] <+chronomex> no hard bans at least
[01:48:49] <@Andy_J_> well yes
[01:48:58] <@Andy_J_> might be some on the ots
[01:49:00] < Cricket_B> !qfind Water
[01:49:06] <@Andy_J_> in fat i know there are
[01:49:10] < Cricket_B> fat?
[01:49:17] <@Andy_J_> fact
[01:49:25] < Cricket_B> fat is a fact?
[01:49:32] <@Andy_J_> i'm typing on my pda' thumboard, give me a break
[01:49:53] <@Andy_J_> At least I'm trying to type with proper grammar and punctuation.
[01:50:28] < Cricket_B> BRandonW, can you release the keyboard part of Periph8x?
[01:50:32] < Cricket_B> *BrandonW
[01:50:39] < BrandonW> No, I've already told you it's going to be released all at once.
[01:50:54] < Cricket_B> Can you work on periph8x?
[01:50:59] < BrandonW> I am.
[01:51:03] <@Andy_J_> On a related note, DSP_Lord's lane just landed.
[01:51:08] < Cricket_B> How far done is it?
[01:51:13] <@Andy_J_> *plane
[01:51:27] < BrandonW> It's hard to say.
[01:51:28] <+chronomex> where's he headed?
[01:51:33] <@Andy_J_> Which is wwhy I'm using my pda.
[01:51:38] <@Andy_J_> Where I am.
[01:51:52] < Cricket_B> What do you mean, BrandonW?
[01:51:53] <@Andy_J_> I,m in arrivals waiting at CAK
[01:51:58] <+chronomex> nice
[01:52:03] <+chronomex> where's that?
[01:52:11] < BrandonW> It's hard to say how far done I am, because I don't know the complexities of some of the unfinished parts yet.
[01:52:19] <@Andy_J_> akron-canton airport, north canton, ohio
[01:52:24] < Cricket_B> Can I have a general idea?
[01:52:33] <+chronomex> he's coming just to visit you?
[01:52:33] <+tifreak> Andy: Slap him upside the head, tell him its from me :P
[01:52:34] < BrandonW> I just gave you the general idea.
[01:52:36] <+chronomex> how sweet :)
[01:52:39] <@Andy_J_> not just me
[01:52:44] < Cricket_B> What is contained and what is done?
[01:52:47] <+chronomex> your family too?
[01:52:58]  * chronomex ducks
[01:53:00] < BrandonW> What do you mean by contained?
[01:53:10] < Cricket_B> What will it be?
[01:53:17] <@Andy_J_> big-ish guitar hero/rock band party at my friend's house this weekend
[01:53:25] <@Andy_J_> brb i think he just walked by
[01:53:31] <@Andy_J_> well bbl actually
[01:53:40] <+tifreak> kk
[01:53:42] <+tifreak> bye
[01:53:42] < BrandonW> I haven't decided that either, but definitely the mass storage and keyboard parts.
[01:53:54] < Cricket_B> You're working on the MSD?
[01:53:59] < BrandonW> The mass storage part is not done, and yes.
[01:54:09] <+tifreak> stupid lightning storms...
[01:54:15] < Cricket_B> What is the current bug?
[01:54:38] < BrandonW> Windows is trying to read the wrong sectors.
[01:54:50] < Cricket_B> Why?
[01:54:58] < BrandonW> I could sit here and talk it out with you, but if I just worked on it, I'd figure it out much faster.
[01:55:05] < BrandonW> If I knew why, it would be fixed.
[01:55:14] < Cricket_B> Look at the COM log
[01:55:16] <+tifreak> lol
[01:55:28] < BrandonW> COM has nothing to do with anything.
[01:55:34] < BrandonW> I know you want to help, but...you're not.
[01:55:37] < Cricket_B> * communication
[01:55:43] < BrandonW> I am.
[01:55:59] < Cricket_B> It had to be calc-induced
[01:56:21] < BrandonW> Yes.
[01:56:35] < Cricket_B> Look at recent packets of data
[01:56:47] < BrandonW> You're not telling me anything I don't already know.
[01:56:55] < Cricket_B> The calc probably sent a bad packet
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[01:59:18] < Cricket_B> ?L4¢?
[02:01:14] < Cricket_B> y8k d9jzxb
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[02:01:25] < Cricket_B> :::
[02:02:48] < Cricket_B> @y6 q43 j6 j3wwqt3w o8i3 5y8w:::
[02:03:17] < Cricket_B> 2q85lll
[02:03:31] < BrandonW> Stop tying gibberish.
[02:03:37] < Cricket_B> There. I fixed this
[02:03:57] < Cricket_B> I was just using my USB keyboard.
[02:04:10] < Cricket_B> I unplugged it and plugged it in again
[02:04:26] < Cricket_B> My encryption driver got set up.
[02:04:39] < Cricket_B> I changed the driver just now, however
[02:04:59] < Cricket_B> It just changes the letter and number keys
[02:05:11] < Cricket_B> It uses the key above and to left
[02:06:55] < Cricket_B> Guess I'll be...rebuilding...my Learjet's panel
[02:07:55] < Cricket_B> D&O<$ZZZ
[02:07:56] < Cricket_B> (CUL8R!!!)
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[02:08:33] < Cricket_B> * IRC running
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[02:23:02] < Hoodman> My, My isnt it busy in here tonight
[02:23:41] < Hoodman> Anyone arround that can help me with a ti89?
[02:24:01] < prime38> yes
[02:24:09] < Hoodman> sweet
[02:24:32] < Hoodman> im having some problems simplifing expressions with square roots
[02:25:27] < prime38> using factor() and expand() ?
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[02:26:05] < Hoodman> yes, but i cant seem to get them in correctly
[02:26:29] < prime38> ok can you show me what you entered
[02:26:33] < prime38> or give an example
[02:26:38] < Hoodman> yes, one sec
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[02:28:34] < Hoodman> ok lets start out simple (sorry, ahd to grab my book)
[02:28:56] < Hoodman> (sq rt)24x^5
[02:29:03] < Hoodman> entered like that
[02:29:28] < Hoodman> the answer is 2^(2/3)(sqrt)3x^5
[02:29:53] < Hoodman> should be 2x^2(sqrt)6x
[02:30:27] < prime38> what? i cant tell what is in the radical with that notation
[02:30:51] < prime38> use this: sqrt(x^4)
[02:30:55] < prime38> something like that
[02:31:14] < Hoodman> ok
[02:31:41] < Hoodman> sqrt(24x^5)
[02:32:13] < Hoodman> 2^(2/3)sqrt(3x^5)
[02:32:31] < prime38> yea that's right
[02:32:38] < Hoodman> should be 2x^2sqrt(6x)
[02:33:11] < prime38> ahh
[02:33:29] < prime38> its probably easier to just do these in your head
[02:33:41] < Hoodman> at least, thats the form i need it in, so i can check my work
[02:33:56] < prime38> first of all take a x^4 out of the radical, that is x^2
[02:34:03] < Hoodman> im not good enough at it to do them in my head! heheheh
[02:34:12] < prime38> hmm
[02:34:25] < prime38> ok, lets see if we can get it to display in that form
[02:34:43] < Hoodman> this is only the second algebra class ive take, im 30 going beck to school
[02:34:58] < prime38> alternatively you can type 2^(2/3)sqrt(3x^5)=2x^2sqrt(6x)
[02:35:24] < prime38> and it should say true or just spit back the equation if not true
[02:35:28] < Hoodman> to see if my answer is correct?
[02:35:30] < prime38> yes
[02:35:39] < prime38> if you want to compare answers
[02:35:49] < Hoodman> ok, i didnt know that
[02:36:57] < Hoodman> hmmm, it thinks its not true though
[02:37:13] < prime38> check your entry
[02:38:17] < Hoodman> looks good to me, i copies the result from the previous entry
[02:38:43] < Hoodman> *copied
[02:39:21] < prime38> worked for me
[02:39:32] < Hoodman> and it said true?
[02:39:35] < prime38> yes
[02:39:46] < Hoodman> hmm
[02:40:17] < Hoodman> what result do you get from sqrt(24x^5) ?
[02:40:42] < prime38> wait i minute
[02:40:48] < Hoodman> ok
[02:41:04] < prime38> i lied, what i said i typed into my calc, i didnt actually type into my calc
[02:41:18] < Hoodman> ummm, ok
[02:41:27] < prime38> it was something else
[02:41:39] < Hoodman> its cool
[02:42:09] < Hoodman> so, actaullt the calc is comming up with the wrong answer, not just the correct answer in a wrong form
[02:42:15] < prime38> the calculator displays 2^(2/3)*sqrt(3x^5)
[02:42:25] < prime38> when i type in  sqrt(24x^5)
[02:42:53] < Hoodman> it it 2^(3/2) ?
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[02:44:19] < prime38> i enter "sqrt(24x^5)" and it gives me "2^(3/2)*sqrt(3x^5)"
[02:44:27] < prime38> yea i mixed it
[02:44:40] < Hoodman> ok, so its not some crazy wrong setting on my calc
[02:45:01] < Hoodman> i just need to get it entered into the correct form
[02:45:55] < prime38> it doesnt seem to like when you pull out the x
[02:46:09] < prime38> for any expression
[02:46:22] < Hoodman> exactly, i have that problem with several questions
[02:46:50] < prime38> but. it is correct
[02:47:03] < prime38> what you said the answer from the book was, it is correct
[02:47:16] < Hoodman> just cant seem to come out in the form i need
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[02:47:59] < prime38> i tried all i knew, and cant make it display in that exact form
[02:48:17] < Hoodman> boy, i wonder why
[02:49:01] < prime38> its smart, but there are tons of ways to form equal expressions
[02:49:15] < Hoodman> i cant seem to find an applications to do it...i guess im not really sure what to look for
[02:49:51] < prime38> its easy to do in your head
[02:50:35] < Hoodman> well, heres the problem, this was the easiest on i need to do
[02:50:54] < prime38> ok, whats the next one?
[02:51:00] < prime38> i will help you
[02:51:15] < prime38> to show how to do it with out a calculator
[02:51:25] < Hoodman> addition, subtraction, multiplication and division
[02:52:19] < Hoodman> of the radical expressions
[02:52:31] < prime38> ok
[02:53:09] <+Nikky> whores
[02:53:40] < Hoodman> so... sqrt(6x^3y^2)sqrt(24x^5y)
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[02:54:08] <+Nikky> Hi MetalRand 
[02:54:16] < MetalRand> Hello.
[02:54:51] < prime38> and the objective is to get all that under one radical?
[02:55:17] < MetalRand> If I'm using Debian Unstable, is it okay to also add the repos from testing and stable?
[02:55:36] < prime38> #debian
[02:56:05] < Hoodman> ya, 12x^4y sqrt(y)
[02:56:20] < Hoodman> ya, 12x^4ysqrt(y)
[02:56:48] < prime38> first i would multiply to get everything under one radical
[02:57:36] < prime38> i get sqrt(144x^8y^3)
[02:58:01] < prime38> and square root of 144 is 12 so take that out
[02:58:11] < prime38> 12sqrt(x^8y^3)
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[02:58:47] < Hoodman> i just dont get why it wont do that
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[03:00:07] < BrandonW> http://www.filmtools.com/wehegunmo69.html
[03:00:07] < BrandonW> http://www.xeltek.com/product.php?productid=16220
[03:00:07] < BrandonW> http://cgi.ebay.com/Ti-nspire-Graphing-Calculator-Never-opened_W0QQitemZ320238138917QQihZ011QQcategoryZ50579QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[03:00:09] < Hoodman> and even 12sqrt(x^8y^3) dosent come out right
[03:00:10] < BrandonW> I'm so tempted.
[03:00:35] <+chronomex> BrandonW: why? low price?
[03:00:43] < BrandonW> No, just to do it.
[03:01:10] <+chronomex> o ok
[03:01:13] < Hoodman> the reserve isnt met though
[03:01:19] < Hoodman> it might be alot more
[03:01:22] <+chronomex> I bought a HP49G+ the other day
[03:01:27] < BrandonW> It doesn't matter, it has Buy It Now which I'm willing to pay, and would if I got it.
[03:01:51] < Hoodman> my buddy has one of those chronomex
[03:02:01] < Hoodman> hes having a hard time with it
[03:02:14] < BrandonW> Not surprising.
[03:02:20] < Hoodman> but, im having a hard time with my TI89
[03:02:21] < prime38> Hoodman: what form does the solution say?
[03:02:26] <+chronomex> what sort of hard time with his calc, Hoodman?
[03:02:45] < Hoodman> 12x^4ysqrt(y)
[03:02:47] <+chronomex> US Postal Service Priority Mail Flat Rate Envelope
[03:03:04] <+chronomex> that's not too encouraging
[03:03:08] < prime38> yea, that answer is equivalent
[03:03:10] < BrandonW> Who cares?
[03:03:20] <+chronomex> sure
[03:03:21] < prime38> but it isnt really usefull in that form
[03:03:22] < i_c-Y> 48g is nice.
[03:03:29] < Hoodman> chronomex, these square roots
[03:03:35] <+chronomex> Hoodman, no
[03:04:04] < Hoodman> no?
[03:04:06] <+chronomex> I don't use my calculator for math
[03:04:19] < Hoodman> oh, ok
[03:04:23] < BrandonW> Only crazies do that.
[03:04:28] <+chronomex> ^^^
[03:05:04] < Hoodman> i guess i certified
[03:06:39] < BrandonW> I'll probably just start out buying the extra Nspire and the heat gun, and then practice and finally pry off that chip and keep it under lock and key until I can acquire the programmer myself or get someone else to read it.
[03:07:12] < Hoodman> wow, i just wana divide square roots
[03:07:25] <+chronomex> why lock and key?
[03:07:40] < BrandonW> To protect it from static, burglars, ninjas, etc.
[03:07:43] <+chronomex> ah
[03:07:45] <+chronomex> good idea
[03:07:54] < Hoodman> cmon
[03:07:56] < Hoodman> !!
[03:08:08] < Hoodman> static isnt that big of a problem
[03:08:12] < Hoodman> hehehe
[03:08:16] < prime38> so gillette sent me one of their 5 bladed razors
[03:08:23] < prime38> just out of the blue, for free
[03:08:38] < Hoodman> hmmm
[03:08:44] < prime38> they must know i recently started using a shick product
[03:08:48] < prime38> freaky
[03:08:50] < DA|ES-IV> yeah um
[03:08:52] < DA|ES-IV> I've gotten two free ones
[03:09:02] < prime38> yea i got the mach 3 too
[03:09:07] < BrandonW> You're both gay.
[03:09:20] < DA|ES-IV> BrandonW: technically I am gay
[03:09:28] < prime38> why? didnt you get a free razor?
[03:09:30] < BrandonW> Which is why I thought that would be an amusing statement.
[03:09:36] < BrandonW> For using a Shick product.
[03:09:37] < DA|ES-IV> not really that amusing
[03:09:40]  * DA|ES-IV shrugs
[03:09:48] < prime38> hey, the shick quattro was free too
[03:09:59] < prime38> they were handing them out on campus
[03:10:03] < prime38> a promo thing
[03:10:12] < BrandonW> That makes it okay, right?
[03:10:22] < i_c-Y> i need new blades
[03:10:26] < prime38> i'd rate it better than the mach3
[03:10:28]  * Hoodman pleads someone to multiply a two variable sq root on an 89
[03:10:46] < Hoodman> but i think its a lost cause
[03:10:47] < prime38> hoodman, it's not going to do it like you want it to
[03:11:02] < Hoodman> i honestly thought it could do everything
[03:11:12] < prime38> the fusion gets points off because it doesnt come with a blade cover
[03:11:18] < Hoodman> thats why i thought the price was ok
[03:11:18] < prime38> like the quattro
[03:11:21] < i_c-Y> it comes with a stand though, prime38 
[03:11:32] < i_c-Y> so its alright.
[03:11:38] < prime38> i_c-Y: the plastic packaging thing?
[03:11:53] < i_c-Y> the thing that holds the razor and says fusion on it?
[03:12:02] < prime38> i didnt get that i guess
[03:12:14] < Cricket_B> I must go
[03:12:22] < Cricket_B> FS2004 Awaits
[03:12:29] < prime38> i just have a clear plastic thing that holds it in the packaging
[03:12:31] < BrandonW> I've avoided repeating myself until now...the 89 is ordering your expressions the only way it's been programmed to do it. You can't make it do whatever form you want so you can check your answers. Blame TI, say the 89 sucks, whatever, but that's the way it is.
[03:12:40] < i_c-Y> http://walmart.triaddigital.com/uploadedImages/In_Stores_Now/New_In_Stores/pg_pg_gillettefusion_720x320_alt1.jpg
[03:12:55] < i_c-Y> that thing that the razor is sitting on
[03:13:03] < prime38> yea, didnt get that
[03:13:06] < i_c-Y> oh.
[03:13:17] < Hoodman> just shocks me that that the only way it can spit it out
[03:13:27] < i_c-Y> mine has that, but i might just might get the quatro
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[03:13:52] < i_c-Y> Hoodman: go learn the damn subject instead of asking the calculator to do that for you
[03:13:58] < i_c-Y> even buisness majors can do this.
[03:14:27] < Hoodman> i-c-y, im not asking you....and i dont need your opinion
[03:14:29] < i_c-Y> prime38: the fusion blades dull out fast.
[03:14:33] < Hoodman> thank you
[03:14:42] < BrandonW> Honestly, how else would it do it? How could you tell it a certain form?
[03:14:54] < i_c-Y> step 1: write your own CAS
[03:14:57] < i_c-Y> step 2: Use said CAS.
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[03:15:23] < BrandonW> step 3: ???, step 4: profit?
[03:15:29] < i_c-Y> no, theres no step 3 and 4.
[03:15:32] < i_c-Y> 4chantard
[03:15:34] < Peter_W> "PUBLIC NOTICE AS REQUIRED BY LAW: Any Use of This Product, in Any Manner Whatsoever, Will Increase the Amount of Disorder in the Universe. Although No Liability Is Implied Herein, the Consumer Is Warned That This Process Will Ultimately Lead to the Heat Death of the Universe."
[03:15:52] < Hoodman> ive seem to find a way arround all the other output problems
[03:16:11] < i_c-Y> have you checked the manual?
[03:17:18] < Hoodman> yes, and the dummies book.....im not stupid....hehehe
[03:18:19] < prime38> i_c-Y: i guess the free ones dont come with that, but it did come with the shaving gel
[03:18:20] < prime38> http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn3854wu4.jpg
[03:18:29] < prime38> that's the one they sent
[03:19:21] < i_c-Y> i got mine when i went to kmart, and they had the razor combo'd with the gel ( a big can of gel, and then a little can of gel and the razor )
[03:19:31] < i_c-Y> it was like a dollar more than the Edge i was planning to buy
[03:19:33] < i_c-Y> so i was like
[03:19:36] < i_c-Y> ok ill just get this instead.
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[03:19:56] < i_c-Y> i have another one i got for free like that in the mail last year though
[03:20:14] < i_c-Y> issue is my roommate has the same razor.
[03:20:34] < MetalRand> QT4 won't install on Debian Unstable.  :(
[03:21:23] <+Nikky> lol debian
[03:21:28] <+Nikky> get fedora
[03:21:55] < prime38> i_c-Y: one of you should get the fusion power or the fusion phenom which are all colored differently
[03:22:14] < i_c-Y> he colored on his handle
[03:22:24] < i_c-Y> cause i had mine first.
[03:22:31] < MetalRand> [Tue Apr 8 2008] [16:36:35] <Nikky>	fedora is great for losers, TheStorm
[03:22:55] <+Nikky> I never said that.
[03:23:33] < i_c-Y> prime38: just use it till the blades dull, then chuck it
[03:23:43] < prime38> yup
[03:23:50] < i_c-Y> and buy either another fusion at retail which comes with 2 blades, or maybe the quattro 
[03:23:51] < prime38> those blades are freaking expensive
[03:24:03] < i_c-Y> quattro power is cheper and comes with 2 blade
[03:24:04] < i_c-Y> s
[03:24:17] < i_c-Y> fusion works well though
[03:24:35] < prime38> i wouldnt even consider buying the blades if they hadnt sent the free razor and the coupons
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[03:25:48] < MetalRand> Bunch more stuff 'you didn't say':  http://unitedti.pastebin.org/28921
[03:26:50] < _Digital> Nikky!
[03:27:04] < prime38> you just have to realise Nikky doesnt have a clue when he talks about anything computer related
[03:27:11] < _Digital> oh and debian sucks
[03:27:22] < prime38> regardless if debian or fedora sucks
[03:27:58] < _Digital> can't even finish an install without the onboard nic turning itself off in teh middle of a download. No particular file either
[03:28:13] < _Digital> never had that problem with gentoo.
[03:28:24] < BrandonW> Is it ironic that my soldering iron requires soldering in order to repair it?
[03:28:44] < _Digital> common though isn't it?
[03:28:50] < BrandonW> It's a first for me.
[03:28:52] < prime38> would it be ironic if a tool is required to fix a tool?
[03:28:53] < prime38> no
[03:29:12] < _Digital> retinning a tip or somesuch
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[03:29:37] < _Digital> ...
[03:29:50]  * _Digital goes back to tweeters and crossovers
[03:30:07] < MetalRand> Everything that sucks:  http://unitedti.pastebin.org/28924
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[03:30:41] < BrandonW> prime38, if it were the same tool? Yes.
[03:33:15] < prime38> <Randomist> Fedora sucks blals.
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[03:33:32] < prime38> [Tue Apr 8 2008] [19:08:16] <Randomist> Fedora sucks blals.
[03:33:40]  * Netham45 notes to MetalRand that a simple " cat * | grep sucks " would be easier to type.
[03:33:57] < MetalRand> That's not recursive.
[03:34:05] < prime38> [Mon Apr 7 2008] [16:57:05]      * Randeimos opts to be kicked next time he tries to convice someone that something or someone sucks based on his opinion.
[03:34:43] < MetalRand> Uh-oh.
[03:34:54] < Netham45> put it in the topic
[03:34:54] < MetalRand> Lies!
[03:38:48] < BrandonW> Is that your opinion?
[03:39:12] < MetalRand> Mar 31 15:18:50 <i_c-Y>	the ubuntu idiots dont stop submitting their shitty patches to debian [...] and if someone wants to go through my firefox is a piece of shit speech for me that would be nice.
[03:40:28] < prime38> the beta 5 of FX3 looked cool
[03:40:48] -!- Andy_J_ is now known as Andy_J
[03:40:50] < prime38> some cool new features
[03:44:10]  * MetalRand is afraid to cast his opinion here.
[03:44:28] < BrandonW> Don't be afraid...have at it!
[03:45:04] < MetalRand> Still sucks.
[03:45:07] < prime38> real player is awesome, unless someone wants to tell me it sucks
[03:45:40] < MetalRand> It sucks, too.  :P
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[03:46:33] < Netham45> real player == spyware infested awesome
[03:47:41] < MetalRand> I think I kind of regret swithing back to GTK desktop thing.
[03:48:01] < MetalRand> Windows are so sluggish now.
[03:48:42] < MetalRand> Everything feels slow.
[03:48:54] < MetalRand> Like Firefox.
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[03:50:21] < MetalRand> This sucks;  this makes me want to reboot and start using Windows again.
[03:50:37] < Netham45> do.
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[03:51:14] < MetalRand> Nah, 'cause I don't have a backup drive.
[03:51:18] < MetalRand> Or something to image to.
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[03:51:44] < MetalRand> I don't wanna have to keep, on Windows, having to constantly reconfigure things when I have to reinstall after it starts getting slow.
[03:53:38] < BrandonW> First off, stop installing so much crap...use what you need and that's it. Have a purpose, not sitting there wasting time on the internet and installing beta after beta of stuff and switching back and forth between OSes and browsers. Pick one and be happy. And second, configure the bare minimum things you want, image it, burn it to DVD, and then restore to that whenever it "gets slow."
[03:54:18] < BrandonW> You don't have anything to image to...buy something.
[03:54:30] < BrandonW> You can get a 500GB drive for under $100 these days.
[03:54:38] < BrandonW> And DVDs cost nothing.
[03:54:54] < BrandonW> Get a 10-pack of DVD-RWs and be happy.
[03:55:05] < MetalRand> I gotta choose between saving up for an 89T somehow before the end of the month 'cause of the SAT, and that.
[03:55:40] < BrandonW> You don't need an 89 Titanium. If you spent half the time studying math that you do reinstalling OSes, you wouldn't need any calculator.
[03:55:45] < Netham45> is the 89T allowed on the SAT?
[03:55:54] < Netham45> I thought that only the 83/84's were...
[03:55:57] < BrandonW> Yes, because it has no QWERTY keyboard.
[03:55:58] < MetalRand> Someone in here said it was.
[03:56:12] < Netham45> ah, ok.
[03:56:40] <+chronomex> it is
[03:56:42] <+chronomex> I used mine
[03:57:02] <+chronomex> actually I don't know if they had the T then ... but I used my 89
[03:57:57] < Netham45> could I bring an 84 and an 89?
[03:58:05] < BrandonW> No.
[03:58:10] < BrandonW> Because the 84 doesn't exist.
[03:58:18] < Netham45> 84+ you asshole.
[03:58:32] <+chronomex> But you could bring a sliderule.
[03:58:33] <+chronomex> I did.
[03:58:37] < BrandonW> You do damage to newcomers by calling it that.
[03:58:53] < Netham45> BrandonW, Cricket_B's damaged enough as is.
[03:59:00] < Netham45> I doubt I can damage him more.
[03:59:02] <+chronomex> haha
[03:59:04] < BrandonW> And the other people who idle?
[03:59:39] < Netham45> aren't new?
[03:59:54] < BrandonW> Never seen khar before.
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[04:00:00] < Netham45> I have...
[04:00:03] < BrandonW> Some of them are 89 people.
[04:00:08] < BrandonW> And know nothing of the 83+ series.
[04:00:29] < BrandonW> But if they hear of this so-called "84" they'll start spreading that around.
[04:00:35] < BrandonW> And misinformation spreads like wildfire.
[04:00:36] < Netham45> ok, BrandonW, I'll say 84+. Go continue your cruisade for proper acronyms with someone else, please.
[04:00:51] < BrandonW> It's not an acronym. If you're going to try to come up with a clever comeback, do better.
[04:00:53] < Netham45> you've taught me the error of my ways.
[04:02:04] < MetalRand> I passed Algebra II with a "C"-average for the last semester (I think I almost got a "B" for the whole year) last year, and I did study a little...
[04:02:25] < MetalRand> * even though
[04:03:18] < BrandonW> I'm not sure where the "even though" was supposed to be.
[04:03:37] < BrandonW> This is why you include a few words from the original sentence.
[04:03:49] < BrandonW> I will convert you all to my method of typing soon enough, even Randomist.
[04:04:17] < BrandonW> He's backwards from everyone else.
[04:04:20] < BrandonW> He takes it to an extreme.
[04:04:23] < BrandonW> Most of you don't even try.
[04:04:51] <+chronomex> What's your method of typing?
[04:04:56] < BrandonW> i_c-Y is just against apostrophes for some reason.
[04:05:02] < BrandonW> That.
[04:05:16] <+chronomex> wait, what?
[04:05:20] < MetalRand> Guess, 'cause this is IRC, no one really care as long as you use at least half-way decent grammar.
[04:05:34] < MetalRand> * cares
[04:05:37] <+chronomex> BrandonW: What's your method of typing?
[04:05:40] < BrandonW> If I have to make an effort to understand what the hell it is you actually said, you're not trying hard enough.
[04:05:47] <+chronomex> haha
[04:05:54] < BrandonW> chronomex: what you're doing now, except I wouldn't capitalize "what" after highlighting like that.
[04:06:17] < BrandonW> Kinda like I just did.
[04:06:25] < BrandonW> And I'll say "Kinda."
[04:06:27] <+chronomex> I see
[04:06:34] <+chronomex> periods and capitals et al
[04:07:00] < BrandonW> Just look at what's happening to our society.
[04:07:08] <+chronomex> eee
[04:07:15] < BrandonW> I submit that we're getting dumber because we all type incorrectly.
[04:07:30] <+chronomex> and watch whatever TV stupid people watch
[04:07:33] <+chronomex> "Cops"
[04:07:36] < MetalRand> A girl from school IMs me occasionally, and it is a bit difficult to understand what she's typing 'cause she, like, shorthands everywhere, and makes a lot of mistakes.
[04:07:46] < BrandonW> TV is healthy, though...Randomist is what happens when you swear off it.
[04:08:05] <+chronomex> I haven't watched TV regularly or in quantity since 2002
[04:08:16] < BrandonW> And look at you!
[04:08:21] < MetalRand> But, her stories she writes, have perfect grammar and spelling.
[04:08:24] < BrandonW> Are you happy with yourself right now?
[04:08:27] <+chronomex> I am not.
[04:08:29] < MetalRand> Who, me or him?
[04:08:33] <+chronomex> lol me
[04:08:34] < MetalRand> Me, no.
[04:08:39] < BrandonW> I know you can't be happy with yourself, Randomist.
[04:08:45] <+chronomex> Well, I'm happy with myself
[04:08:53] <+chronomex> but I know that TV wouldn't help
[04:08:59] <+chronomex> it'd take me away from you
[04:09:00] < BrandonW> TV cures all.
[04:09:07] < BrandonW> We can watch something together!
[04:09:16] <+chronomex> ok!
[04:09:17] <+chronomex> what/
[04:09:28] < BrandonW> Hmm...
[04:09:43] < BrandonW> The Abyss on Sci-Fi!
[04:09:59] <+chronomex> I don't have cable
[04:10:06] < BrandonW> Sad.
[04:10:10] < BrandonW> You've seen The Abyss, though, right?
[04:10:17] <+chronomex> I haven't even heard of it
[04:10:22] < BrandonW> :(
[04:10:25] < BrandonW> Classic.
[04:10:34] < MetalRand> I should be happy this year 'cause a decade, minus a few months from today, is when I started getting into computers and artwork.
[04:10:46] <+chronomex> maybe I have, I don't remember it though
[04:10:48] < BrandonW> Of course, it did come out in 1989...
[04:11:34] < BrandonW> Why would that make you happy, Randomist?
[04:12:12] < MetalRand> 'Cause I did my first programming the summer of that year, I guess;  other than that, I don't know.
[04:12:44] < MetalRand> That is, if HyperTalk counts as a programming language.
[04:13:16] < BrandonW> To spoil it for all of you, in The Abyss, it's about a group of deep-sea oil platform workers and a couple of military commandos searching for a nuclear device that was somehow lost and is sinking to the bottom of the ocean. I forget how, exactly. But later on they find that there are aliens down there who have always lived underwater and aren't happy that we're playing with nukes.
[04:13:36] < Barrett> but they save the one dude!
[04:13:45] < Barrett> the dude that is breathing liquid oxygen
[04:13:47] < BrandonW> Finally, someone who's seen it!
[04:13:49] < BrandonW> Yes, that's awesome.
[04:14:02] < BrandonW> I LOVE YOU  WIFE
[04:14:02] < MetalRand> Thanks, now I don't have to see the movie.  :P
[04:14:15] < Barrett> I haven't seen it in years
[04:14:19] < Barrett> all I remember is the liquid oxygen stuff
[04:14:28] < BrandonW> Sci-Fi, now.
[04:14:33] < MetalRand> Now if someone could sum up the Kiterunner like that so I don't have to finish reading the book, or watch the movie for Engish.
[04:14:37] < MetalRand>  * English
[04:15:19] < MetalRand> That book keeps getting worse and worse... makes you want to kill yourself, 'cause it does not stop getting more and more depressing.
[04:15:34] < BrandonW> But I'm sure you're used to it.
[04:15:47] <+chronomex> BrandonW: how is that spoiling it for us?  That's basically what they would put on the dust-jacket
[04:15:50] < MetalRand> Good point.
[04:15:51] <+chronomex> I mean cover
[04:15:59] <+chronomex> er, box or postor
[04:16:03] <+chronomex> wtf do movies come in anyway
[04:17:35] < MetalRand> Hm, I might should probably use Windows anyway, 'cause I think I want to get a job at this place where you get paid, like, seven to nine dollars an hour for helping people out over the phone with their computers.
[04:18:06] <+chronomex> might should?  you just proved southernness :)
[04:18:29] < prime38> ive seen the abyss
[04:18:32] < BrandonW> chronomex: the alien thing isn't until the end. The jacket would say "a startling discovery" like the DVR description.
[04:18:39] < MetalRand> No, my brain is just putting words backwards.
[04:18:40] <+chronomex> oh ok
[04:18:44] < MetalRand> * probably should be using
[04:19:08] <+chronomex> "might should" is a southernism according to my linguistics textbook
[04:19:20] < BrandonW> Your linguistics textbook sucks, according to me.
[04:19:41] <+chronomex> okay
[04:19:59] < MetalRand> I'm just typing here;  I'm not even really thinking 'bout what I'm typing; I'm just kind of idling off in space in mid-sentence.
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[04:20:17] <+chronomex> I recommend stopping then.
[04:20:23] <+chronomex> or maybe drinkinig
[04:20:32] < Netham45> chronomex, a drunk randomist?
[04:20:36] < Netham45> are you mad?
[04:21:08] < MetalRand> Either a fatigued Randomist or a mentally distracted Randomist.
[04:21:20] < MetalRand> Right now, a little bit of both.
[04:21:42] < Com125> how can you go on saying that everything is sucking? :/
[04:21:46] <+chronomex> no, Netham45, I'm betting that he wouldn't be able to reach the keyboard from the floor
[04:21:53] < MetalRand> Com125, who, me?
[04:22:07] < Com125> everyone
[04:22:15] < MetalRand> Well... because everything does suck.
[04:23:19] < MetalRand> "This thing does this, but doesn't do this, this, or this," and "That thing does that, but doesn't do this or this, and does that horribly," and so-on...
[04:24:15] < Netham45> chronomex, is that really a chance you want to take on behalf of all of us?
[04:24:37] < MetalRand> Then, when you come to the one thing that looks promising, and think, "Hmm, this might not suck after all," there is some fatal flaw that comes up with it.
[04:24:42] < Com125> at least TIGCC site is working
[04:29:21] < prime38> i think i found a picture of MetalRand
[04:29:21] < prime38> http://la.gg/v/bro_guns.jpg
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[04:30:03] < BrandonW> Your nihilism sickens me, Randomist.
[04:30:20] < BrandonW> Really.
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[04:30:47] < MetalRand> Is that coming from because of prime38 or because of what I said?
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[04:33:37] < BrandonW> You've said stuff like that for a long time now.
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[04:34:58] < MetalRand> What is there to believe in anymore?
[04:35:13] <+chronomex> god
[04:35:16] < BrandonW> ^
[04:35:22] < BrandonW> That was for your sentence, not chronomex's.
[04:35:28] < BrandonW> Stuff like that.
[04:35:29] <+chronomex> oh. :(
[04:40:08] < Com125> are you supposed to install the hw3patch for HW2 calculators (TI-89)?
[04:41:08] < prime38> ....
[04:41:20] < MetalRand> BrandonW,   Could be worse.
[04:41:44] < Com125> says it works on HW2 also
[04:42:03] <+chronomex> Com125: yes
[04:42:55] < Com125> once i installed that patch, tilp seems to not be able to detect the calculator..
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[04:44:50] < MetalRand> Gah, I hate this fucking piece-of-shit computer...
[04:45:34] < Com125> what the hell
[04:45:37] < Com125> it cant find the calculator
[04:45:39] < glk1> I use a Mac. I like it
[04:49:03] < MetalRand> If I had the money, I'd get me a fast Mac and a fast PC.
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[04:49:30] < MetalRand> Then, I'd have nothing to choose.  :P
[04:49:33] < glk1> My older Mac Blue Tower cost me $200 used
[04:50:49] < MetalRand> Sounds like a good deal... probably faster than my comp that cost three.  :P
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[04:52:02] < Com125> Does your calculator work with the HW3patch installed?
[04:52:07] < Com125> as in, TILP can find it?
[04:52:18] < MetalRand> Time for me to go back into darkness.
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[04:53:41] < Com125> Anyone there?
[04:53:57] < glk1> Hi
[04:54:04] < Com125> you got a ti-89?
[04:54:18] < glk1> I can offer TI-89 data when you want
[04:54:25] < glk1> I have the 89 and 89T
[04:54:37] < Com125> I installed HW3patch..and now TiLP cant detect my calculator
[04:54:39] < Com125> What should I do?
[04:55:01] < glk1> I do not know about that
[04:56:48] < glk1> Reloading the system from TI might work if nothing else will
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[04:59:18] <@efneTI86> [Spengo] We do what we must because we can
[05:02:16] < BrandonW> Spengo: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qrjdhbdndz0
[05:02:44] < Spengo> yay gmod
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[05:05:53] < prime38> Spengo: can i have that link to communist mario again?
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[05:06:15] < Spengo> http://www.88by31.com/flashman/thepeoplesmario.swf
[05:07:03] < BrandonW> http://youtube.com/watch?v=RBbnYivLhyE Beautiful.
[05:07:39] < prime38> thanks!
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[05:09:20] < Com125> >_________>  It wasn't plugged in lol :D
[05:09:48] < Com125> or maybe it was...
[05:10:09] < Com125> ...what the hell is wrong with this thing
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[05:11:27] < Com125> sgm, you got a ti-89?
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[05:11:31] <+sgm> no
[05:11:34] < Com125> oh.
[05:16:05] <+nicolas> morning lads
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[05:19:44] <+Michael_V> Our April 1 article is bringing idiots out of the woodwork
[05:19:54] <+Michael_V> Several e-mails offering hosting
[05:20:08] < prime38> hehe
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[05:20:11] <+Michael_V> The latest mentions a "site copier" so we can retrieve our files...and he claims he tried it and downloaded 500 MB already
[05:20:15] < Com125> Now heres what I'm not getting
[05:20:21] < Com125> what makes TiLP better than ti connect?
[05:20:25] <+Michael_V> The amusing part is when they ask our bandwidth requirements and such
[05:20:35] <+Michael_V> We require a dedicated server with tons of hard drive space and even more bandwidth
[05:20:38] <+Michael_V> These people haven't a clue
[05:20:50] <+Michael_V> Com125: It works
[05:21:02] < Com125> Its not working for me :/
[05:21:16] <+chronomex> well it worked for someone, sometime
[05:21:19] <+chronomex> :)
[05:21:20] < Com125> How do I reinstall the drivers for a ti-graph link?
[05:21:29] < Com125> aka silverlink because its silver
[05:21:37] <+Michael_V> you need to install the tilp driver for that
[05:21:39] <+Michael_V> not the TI one
[05:21:48] <+Michael_V> (to use it with tilp)
[05:21:50] < Com125> how do i uninstall the silverlink drivers?
[05:22:06] < prime38> in device manager
[05:22:10] < prime38> or jsut install over them
[05:22:16] < Com125> I know that >_>
[05:24:28] < Com125> ok
[05:24:32] < Com125> I installed the tilp drivers
[05:24:35] < Com125> and it still can't find it.
[05:25:41] < Com125> I'm getting this error when refreshing the dirlist:  Msg: timeout occured while writing to the device.
[05:25:50] < Com125> System: (2089878321) The handle is invalid.
[05:26:03] <+Michael_V> Have you verified in device manager that the driver is the tilp one?
[05:26:09] < Com125> how do I verify?
[05:26:38] <+Michael_V> open up the silverlink device and look at the driver tab in the properties
[05:26:54] <+Michael_V> it should list the files used
[05:27:12] < Com125> libusb0.sys
[05:27:15] < Com125> libusb0.dll
[05:28:01] <+Michael_V> seems correct
[05:28:11] < Com125> whats the issue O_o
[05:28:11] <+Michael_V> you've selected the proper graphlink type in tilp?
[05:28:39] < Com125> not sure what kind this is, seems like a silverlink
[05:28:45] < Com125> I clicked check for usb devices, detected none
[05:29:51] <+chronomex> figures
[05:30:00] < Com125> :/
[05:30:08] < Com125> It worked before with silverlink though
[05:30:20] < Com125> once I installed that HW3Driver, the calculator works, but tilp cant detect it.
[05:31:30] <+Michael_V> what's hw3driver?
[05:31:42] <+chronomex> I think he means hw3patch
[05:31:48] < Com125> yeah
[05:31:52] <+Michael_V> ah
[05:32:22] <+Michael_V> you have an 89 titanium?
[05:32:35] <+Michael_V> Are you sure you're not using a direct USB cable?
[05:32:38] <+Michael_V> what color is your cable?
[05:32:42] < Com125> its a regular ti-89
[05:32:47] < Com125> its gray colored
[05:32:52] < Com125> with a big rectangle thing in the middle
[05:32:53] <+Michael_V> gray or silver?
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[05:33:01] < Com125> seems silvery
[05:33:09] <+Michael_V> partially transparent?
[05:33:13] < Com125> ya
[05:33:24] <+Michael_V> Why did you install hw3patch?
[05:33:46] < Com125> It was required for a program
[05:33:56] <+Michael_V> how did that even work?
[05:34:00] <+Michael_V> hw3patch is for a TI-89 Titanium
[05:34:03] <+Michael_V> it's not designed for a regular 89
[05:34:06] < Com125> it says that it supports HW3 and HW2?
[05:34:10] <+chronomex> it works on a hw2, Michael_V
[05:34:13] <+chronomex> trust me
[05:34:17] <+chronomex> I've used it on my hw2
[05:34:22] <+chronomex> also my hw4
[05:34:28] <+chronomex> bit of a misnomer
[05:34:37] <+Michael_V> why would you install hw3patch on a 89 though?
[05:34:45] <+chronomex> it's sort of what you need to do
[05:34:54] <+chronomex> hw3patch subsumes hw2patch
[05:35:01] <+Michael_V> oh
[05:35:20] <+chronomex> you can't get hw2patch any more
[05:35:22] <+Michael_V> that makes sense
[05:35:25] <+Michael_V> someone should have said so :)
[05:38:09] < Spengo> Michael_V, you like guns right?
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[05:38:32] <+Michael_V> I guess
[05:38:39] < Spengo> http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/CMMG_MOD4SA_AR15_.223_5.56x45_Lower_Receiver_with_Internals.html  <== check it, AR15 lower with internals for only $180 and no shipping
[05:38:41] <+Michael_V> I don't like them in the way that some people obsess and such
[05:39:15] <+Michael_V> mmm
[05:39:19] <+chronomex> I was going to get a concealed permit just because I could
[05:39:37] <+chronomex> but then I noticed it costs lots of money (~$100) and I'm not old enough
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[05:40:47] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] Hail to the king baby!
[05:41:59] <+Michael_V> There is a certain appeal to building your own AR-15
[05:42:06] < Spengo> yeah
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[05:42:15] < Sir_Lewk> w00t
[05:42:17] < Spengo> it's cheaper to build your own and you learn a lot about the gun by doing so too
[05:42:22] < Sir_Lewk> finished my second comic
[05:42:30] <+Michael_V> I fired one that my dad's friend built over several years actually (as he saved up spare money)
[05:42:41] < Com125> is this hw3patch known to mess up calculators permanently?
[05:42:42] <+Michael_V> 9mm, for the cheapness of the bullets I guess :)
[05:42:43] < Spengo> you can get a nice 20" gov't profile CMMG upper for $525 too
[05:42:47] < Spengo> ehhh
[05:42:49] < Spengo> I want .223
[05:42:50] <+Michael_V> but it had a red dot sight and was rather fun to fire
[05:43:15] < Sir_Lewk> http://sirlewk.googlepages.com/2.png  need to redo the second panel and possibly the narration, but that's the general idea
[05:43:16] <+Michael_V> it's sort of nice to have nearly zero recoil sometimes :)
[05:43:49] < Sir_Lewk> http://sirlewk.googlepages.com/beginning.png  the first
[05:45:08] < Com125> I can't reinstall the patch unless i patch the OS again
[05:45:16] < Com125> O_o
[05:45:28] < Spengo> I'm hoping whoever the next president is pulls us out of iraq quickly
[05:45:35] < Spengo> so there is a surplus of .223 :O
[05:45:40] < Sir_Lewk> LOL
[05:45:44] < Com125> They need to stay in Iraq.
[05:45:55] < Spengo> I want my bullets, to hell with iraq
[05:46:01] <+chronomex> why, Com125, are you scared of Spengo getting guns?
[05:46:04] < DA|ES-IV> lol
[05:46:07] <+chronomex> erm, ammunition
[05:46:09] < DA|ES-IV> I'm scared of him getting guns
[05:46:09] < Sir_Lewk> now there's a true american!
[05:46:14] < Com125> no, I'm scared of terrorists killing me
[05:46:14] < Spengo> :D
[05:46:28] < Spengo> terrorists won't kill you if you have an AR15 in your garage with lots of bullets :)
[05:46:31] < Com125> sigh...
[05:46:37] < Com125> im installing ti connect (god damnit)
[05:46:39] <+Michael_V> terrorists will kill you if we stay in Iraq :)
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[05:46:43] < Sir_Lewk> we're not in Iraq for the terrorists, we're in it for the lulz
[05:46:46] < Spengo> wait I have a funny comic for this
[05:46:52] <+DSM-IV> DA|ES-IV: let's confuse the world
[05:46:59] <+Michael_V> terrorists will kill you if we don't stay in Afghanistan
[05:47:03] <+Michael_V> the two should not be confused
[05:47:06] < Netham45> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16896111001    look at the reviews, hahahaha.
[05:47:10] < prime38> lol chronomex
[05:47:16] < Spengo> http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9030/911whatmighthavehappenegx5.jpg
[05:47:25] < Com125> lmao
[05:47:50] <+DSM-IV> haha
[05:47:51] < Sir_Lewk> xD
[05:47:51] <+DSM-IV> cute
[05:47:57] < Com125> He actually OCed the microwave?
[05:48:05] < Netham45> Com125, it's a joke.
[05:48:05] < prime38> yea, for real, really did
[05:48:20] <+DSM-IV> what, 10GHz?
[05:48:28] < Sir_Lewk> Netham45, I've decided to make a webcomic to get my message of a violent transhumanist revolution out there
[05:48:39] < Sir_Lewk> do you still not wish to join me?
[05:48:49] <+DSM-IV> lol Netham45
[05:48:53] < Sir_Lewk> together we can rule the UNIVERSE!
[05:48:54] -!- DSM-IV is now known as chronomex
[05:49:22] < Netham45> Sir_Lewk, no, you combine freak.
[05:49:43]  * Sir_Lewk laughs maniacally
[05:49:50] < Netham45> (Please, someone get the joke.)
[05:49:50] < Sir_Lewk> brainwashing is optional :P
[05:49:53] < Netham45> :
[05:49:55] < Netham45> :P *
[05:50:06] <+Michael_V> DSM-IV?
[05:50:11] <+Michael_V> I understood that
[05:50:21] <+chronomex> Michael_V++
[05:50:31] <+Michael_V> how could you not?
[05:50:36] < Sir_Lewk> the combine may be transhumans but transhumans are not (necessarily) combine
[05:50:37] <+Michael_V> it's amusing to read it and classify people you know :)
[05:50:42] <+chronomex> hehe
[05:50:47] <+chronomex> Michael_V: where would you put me?
[05:50:49] < Sir_Lewk> squares and rectangles kind of thing
[05:50:51]  * Michael_V whistles and looks away from #tcpa people
[05:51:05] <+chronomex> way over there?
[05:51:29] <+Michael_V> I'm not sure...I don't know enough :)
[05:51:34] < Netham45> Sir_Lewk, still, I am calling you a combinel.
[05:51:35] < Netham45> combine*
[05:51:38] < Netham45> and I
[05:51:42] < Netham45> damnit, I can NOT type today.
[05:51:58] < Netham45> and I'm setting sv_cheats 1.
[05:52:45] < Com125> ti connect cant find it...
[05:52:48] < Com125> I'm doomed >_<
[05:52:52] <+chronomex> hehe
[05:52:55] < Netham45> ti connect is t3h shitz
[05:53:13] <+chronomex> maybe your cable is br0ken0rz
[05:53:28] < Com125> it just suddenly breaks?
[05:53:33] < Netham45> ti connect does.
[05:53:43] < Com125> i mean the cable.
[05:55:02] <+Michael_V> remember you have to switch the driver to use TI Connect
[05:55:06] <+Michael_V> to the TI driver
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[05:56:14] < Sir_Lewk> Netham45, in 500 years I shall be spitting on your grave known as earth as I embark with the rest of humanity and colonize the galaxy
[05:56:17] < Com125> im getting a different error now.
[05:56:30] < Com125> How do I check libusb and usbfs for valid permissions?
[05:56:49] < Sir_Lewk> also, sv_cheats 0
[05:57:13] < Netham45> sv_cheats 1
[05:57:20] < Netham45> physcannon_mega_enabled 1
[05:57:25] < Sir_Lewk> :O
[05:57:30] < Netham45> *grab and toss Sir_Lewk*
[05:57:46] < Netham45> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16896111001    lol, I'm submitting a review for that microwave, pro: stable at 3GHz     con: my hotdog exploded       other thoughts: stock 1.86GHz to 3GHz on stock, gets a bit warm, but that's expected(and hoped for)
[05:58:16] <+chronomex> haha
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[05:58:18] <+chronomex> not too shabby
[05:58:42] < Sir_Lewk> I hardhacked my A/C unit with a potato
[05:58:46] < Sir_Lewk> beat that
[05:59:07] < Netham45> lol
[05:59:15] < Netham45> some idiots going to buy that microwave trying to OC it
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[06:02:08] < Sir_Lewk> lol@xkcd.com
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[06:07:20] < Netham45> damnit Sir_Lewk...
[06:07:29] < Netham45> I clicked on that and Windows Mail opened.
[06:08:19] < Sir_Lewk> lmao
[06:08:27] < Netham45> grr
[06:09:31] < prime38> you should send something to that address
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[06:09:54] < Netham45> "Greetings from dealextreme.com! An order was sent to you approximately three weeks ago."   and yet I still don't have it... =/
[06:10:07] < Netham45> maybe I shouldn't have ordered ground shipping from hong kong
[06:10:51] < Netham45> I want my PSP door. :(
[06:11:16] < DA|ES-IV> 3 weeks?
[06:11:30] < DA|ES-IV> wow, dealextreme has never taken more than 10 days for me
[06:12:07] < Netham45> wait
[06:12:10] < Netham45> this is a different orcer
[06:12:12] < Netham45> order*
[06:12:44] < Com125> :/
[06:12:47] < Netham45> I get alot of crap from dealextreme
[06:12:49] < Com125> shouldve never touched ti connect
[06:12:55] < Com125> now my problem is twice as bad
[06:13:03] < Netham45> Com125, yea, now we need to quarintine you.
[06:13:08] < Com125> Yeah
[06:13:24] < Com125> How do you remove the ti connect drivers now?  Every time I plug the device in, it says texas instruments, i click uninstall
[06:13:30] < Com125> but it comes back when I plug the device in again
[06:13:43] < Com125> i removed silvlink from system32 or whatever
[06:13:50] < Netham45> go to device manager, bring up properties for it, and replace the driver with the one you want.
[06:15:01] < Com125> with the one I want...theres more than one kind?
[06:15:43] < Netham45> I was assuming you meant TiLP
[06:15:47] < Com125> yeah
[06:15:59] < Netham45> so, replace it with the driver you want.
[06:16:08] < Netham45> TiLP uses a different driver than Ti Connect
[06:16:11] < Com125> is there a place to download the drivers separately?
[06:16:20] < Netham45> which one do you need?
[06:16:23] < Netham45> tilp or ticonnect?
[06:16:27] < Com125> tilp
[06:16:47] < Com125> the installer wont work for this kind of solution.
[06:16:52] < Com125> I have to replace it by device manager
[06:17:35] < Netham45> Com125, http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/339/33902.html
[06:17:39] < Peter_W> eh? ehhh?
[06:17:46] < Peter_W> whaddya mean I'm still online?
[06:17:47] < Com125> thanks
[06:17:50] < Netham45> also, afaik, the installer never handled it.
[06:18:03] < Netham45> well
[06:18:05] < Netham45> I need sleep
[06:18:11] < Netham45> cya all
[06:23:23] < Com125> ok
[06:23:28] < Com125> I installed the driver.
[06:23:33] < Com125> this seems different than the other one
[06:24:07] < Com125> :/ damnit
[06:25:08] < prime38> stress stinks
[06:25:16] < Com125> its not working
[06:25:25] < Com125> its acting like the ti connect one, but i know it isnt the ti connect one
[06:25:36] < Com125> TiLP seems to be very strict?
[06:25:52] < Com125> should I try just the first TiLP instead of TiLPII?
[06:27:33] < prime38> are these the drivers you are using? http://lpg.ticalc.org/prj_usb/index.html
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[06:30:16] < Com125> agh
[06:30:20] < Com125> it still...cant...detect it
[06:30:46] < Com125> I seriously think its the patch thats doing it, not the cable
[06:32:09] < Com125> I guess i'm doomed
[06:32:12] < Com125> no options left..
[06:32:31] < Com125> unless I can reset the calculator completely somehow
[06:33:33] < prime38> will uninstall event hook remove  hw3patch?
[06:33:38] < Com125> ...
[06:33:39] < Com125> IT FOUND IT OMFG
[06:33:40] < Com125> O_o
[06:33:43] < Spengo> why would you want to remove hw3patch?
[06:33:44] < Com125> what the fuck!
[06:33:48] < Com125> it found it!!!
[06:33:54] < Com125> I reset the ram, and it finds it >_>
[06:33:55] < prime38> cause it fucked with his linking
[06:34:00] < Spengo> weird
[06:34:12] < Com125> does resetting the ram remove the patch?
[06:34:13] < Com125> just wondering
[06:34:17] < Spengo> it's never done that to me or anyone else I've talked to about 89titanium
[06:34:18] < Spengo> no
[06:34:19] < Spengo> it shouldn't
[06:34:23] < Com125> ah
[06:34:32] < Com125> as long as im patched..
[06:34:41] < Com125> I just wanted to switch shells
[06:34:48] < Com125> I dont need preos, ill just use kerNO
[06:34:53] < Com125> seems simple enough
[06:35:18] < Com125> and for 1 kb...cant be beat
[06:36:06] < Com125> I need Tankers maps
[06:37:29] <+chronomex> kerNO ain't a shell
[06:37:35] < Com125> I know...
[06:37:41] < Com125> or im really stupid O_o
[06:37:44] <+chronomex> hah
[06:37:52] < Com125> I'm not used to the 89 compared to the 83 lol
[06:38:00] < Com125> in 83, mirageos was all I needed
[06:38:38] < prime38> ion is all i need
[06:39:00] < prime38> joe w is my calc hero
[06:41:29] <+nicolas> prime38: hehe... "w" because you just can't remember how to spell his last name ;-)
[06:41:45] < prime38> wingbermehule
[06:41:48] < prime38> wait
[06:41:48] <+nicolas> although, you need to than Dan E for that as well
[06:41:53] < prime38> wingbermehule
[06:41:55] < prime38> hmmm
[06:41:59] <+nicolas> almost ;-)
[06:41:59] < prime38> lets check
[06:42:15] < prime38> wingbermuhule
[06:42:17] < prime38> i think
[06:42:20] < prime38> what is it
[06:42:22] <+nicolas> close
[06:42:49] <+nicolas> wingbermuehle
[06:42:51] <+nicolas> I think :P
[06:42:52] < prime38> correct spelling: joe wingbermuehle
[06:43:17] < prime38> yay you win
[06:45:03] <+nicolas> I guess Joe W ... or Joe Wing... would do the trick anyway :P
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[06:45:05] <+nicolas> haha
[06:46:08] < prime38> it amazes me, people like him
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[06:46:16] < Com125> thanks for the help ^^
[06:46:20] < prime38> in highschool i was a calculator 'expert'
[06:46:24] < Com125> kinda hard to control the tank though..
[06:46:32] < prime38> but considering what i know now
[06:46:40] < prime38> its like i knew hardly anything
[06:46:50] < prime38> and he was already programming shells and crap
[06:47:22] < Sir_Lewk> didn't he make a window manager too?
[06:47:35] < prime38> yes
[06:47:39] < prime38> joewm
[06:47:39] <+nicolas> yeah, but later...
[06:47:52] < prime38> or just jwn
[06:47:54] <+nicolas> i must say, i've never tried it
[06:47:56] < prime38> *jwm
[06:48:14] < Sir_Lewk> I actually think I have
[06:48:29] < Sir_Lewk> I believe it comes with DSL linux
[06:49:24] < prime38> really?
[06:49:27] < prime38> thats sweet
[06:49:32] < Sir_Lewk> I believe so
[06:49:38]  * Sir_Lewk goes and checks
[06:49:49] < Com125> I was wondering...
[06:49:55] < Com125> Any of you drink lots of water by your computer?
[06:50:06] < Sir_Lewk> yup: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damn_Small_Linux
[06:50:08] < DA|ES-IV> sometimes
[06:50:11] < prime38> i spilled beer on my keyboard once
[06:50:14] < Sir_Lewk> it's the default actually
[06:50:15] < Com125> i had like 6-8 cups O_o
[06:50:20] < prime38> it came out fine
[06:50:30] < DA|ES-IV> I have 3 cups around my desk
[06:50:35] < DA|ES-IV> from drinking water
[06:51:01] < Sir_Lewk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JWM
[06:51:02] <+nicolas> Com125: I dunno... I drink at least 1.5L of water a day in front of my computer
[06:51:19] < Com125> thats good
[06:51:46] <+nicolas> actually I drink taht at least that much on any given day
[06:52:11] <+nicolas> I drink a lot, but i'm not diabetic, I just  sweat a lot too :P
[06:52:34] < prime38> i drink a lot too
[06:52:38] < prime38> it keeps reality in check
[06:52:45] < Com125> reality in check?
[06:52:59] < prime38> it makes bad things go away
[06:53:44] < prime38> (for those of you who havent figured it out, i didnt mean water)
[06:56:14] < Com125> IDE looks really nice
[06:56:20] < Com125> I think I'm going to like TIGCC...
[06:56:50] < Sir_Lewk> KTIGCC or just TIGCC?
[06:57:04] < prime38> JTIGCC or HJTIGCC?
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[06:57:20]  * Sir_Lewk internet stabs prime38
[06:57:30] < prime38> oh i forgot WTFTIGCC
[06:57:57] < prime38> TIOMGCC
[06:59:50]  * Sir_Lewk senses an imminent random anti-Kevin_Kofler bashfest and goes to bed
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[06:59:55] <+chronomex> haha
[07:00:19] < prime38> hey now, KK is my second favorite
[07:00:25] < prime38> a really close second
[07:00:33] < Sir_Lewk> favorite what?
[07:00:41] < prime38> calc person
[07:00:44] < Sir_Lewk> ah
[07:00:46] < Sir_Lewk> yeah
[07:00:46] < prime38> *calculator
[07:00:52] < Sir_Lewk> I have no problems with him
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[07:07:31] < prime38> whoever can guess what this number is for wins a cookie
[07:07:35] < prime38> L51818319G
[07:07:44] <+chronomex> one dollar bill serial
[07:07:53] < prime38> yay
[07:07:57] < prime38> nice identification
[07:08:06] <+chronomex> I expect my CTCP COOKIE soon
[07:08:16] <+chronomex> meanwhile, I'll fetch some oreos
[07:09:08] < prime38> now i want a cookie
[07:09:12] < prime38> and i jsut bought some too
[07:09:15] < prime38> but its like 2am
[07:09:22] <+chronomex> no, it's like 1215
[07:09:46] < prime38> which is 2am when you round...
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[07:13:59] < prime38> belarus is a cool name for a country
[07:14:03] < prime38> i've always loved it
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[07:45:34] < prime38> uh oh
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[08:06:12] < DA|ES-IV> "isoHunt is Sick"
[08:06:13] < DA|ES-IV> wtf :D
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[08:06:23] < DA|ES-IV> it wasn't sick ten minutes ago
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[08:10:14] <+nicolas> trivia question: if you are born on a plane or boat over international waters, what citizenship do you get?
[08:10:35] < DA|ES-IV> first country you arrive at?
[08:10:38] < DA|ES-IV> I don't know :P
[08:10:48] <+nicolas> no idea, that's what I asked :P
[08:11:06] < DA|ES-IV> oh, you're assigned to the country by the flag of the boat or plane you were born on
[08:11:17] < DA|ES-IV> "When you are in international waters than you are assigned to the laws of the flag that is on the boat."
[08:13:51] <+nicolas> I suppose that makes sense, it's hwat I thought
[08:14:21] <+nicolas> so for a plane, itwould be the contry the carrier comes from ?
[08:21:17] < prime38> sounds right
[08:21:55] < prime38> isohunt not loading for me
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[09:14:50] < prime38> some damn ladybug must have laid eggs in my room or something
[09:15:10] < prime38> ive killed like 4 in the last few days
[09:15:13] <+nicolas> you should feel lucky
[09:15:23] <+nicolas> ladybugs are on their way to extinction!
[09:15:37] < prime38> you read this?
[09:15:55] <+nicolas> and why would you kill them! they're all pretty with their little spots
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[09:16:21] < prime38> are they really going extinct?
[09:16:44] <+nicolas> prime38: read it ? no, I see it around here, we used to have LOADS around here .. and they'r good they helped keeping the stupid little bugs taht kill plants off the plants, by eating them :D
[09:16:59] < prime38> yea, aphids
[09:17:00] <+nicolas> ubt I can't recall seeing a ladybug in like 2 years
[09:17:27] < prime38> they like out house apparently
[09:17:59] < prime38> in our atticc by the windows, they collect dead there
[09:18:09] < prime38> a ladybug graveyard
[09:19:02] <+nicolas> heh
[09:19:33] <+nicolas> so yeah, I don't know if they're in exctinction or not, but I definitely see a LOT less nowadays
[09:20:12] <@E-J> http://www.phatfusion.net/googledrive/
[09:21:17] < prime38> lol awesome
[09:22:36] <+nicolas> that is awesome!
[09:23:26] <@E-J> i know nicolas is trying to avoid working, so that might be good in that try
[09:26:08] <+nicolas> hmm... and how do you know... :p
[09:26:11] < prime38> i should drive to chicago from my home town
[09:26:34] < prime38> but it would probably take half an our on that scale
[09:26:38] <+nicolas> how long a drive would that be ?
[09:26:43] < prime38> half an hour
[09:26:49] < prime38> its like 45 minutes on a real car
[09:27:06] < prime38> that seems to be moving faster than i can really drive
[09:27:22] < prime38> at least on residential roads
[09:30:22] <+nicolas> yeah
[09:30:39] <+nicolas> I just drove from  work to home in a matter of minutes :P
[09:31:03] < prime38> neat ide
[09:31:05] < prime38> idea
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[09:31:19] <+nicolas> I was daydreamin about it :P
[09:32:58] < prime38> now the real google maps isnt loading for me
[09:33:15] < prime38> :p
[09:37:45] < prime38> lol go to a gold course
[09:37:48] < prime38> *golf
[09:37:54] < prime38> you can drive all around it
[09:38:56] < prime38> this thing seems to only recognize what is private property
[09:39:00] < prime38> and you cant drive on that
[09:41:27] <+nicolas> I think it just stops you from driving on "grey" colored areas
[09:41:40] <+nicolas> I can drover over the forests around my house :P
[09:41:51] < prime38> ya
[09:42:01] <+nicolas> drive*
[09:42:41] < prime38> well, good night
[09:42:55] < prime38> morning for others
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[09:43:52] <+nicolas> hmm..so an email has just been sent to all company employees
[09:44:03] <+nicolas> "security audit"
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[09:50:48] <+nicolas> notLeofox: yeah.. probalby
[09:51:15] <+nicolas> I find lmyself just like in school, I have probably broken every rule of the code of conduct :P
[09:51:33] <+nicolas> fortunately I access my IRC over ssh :P
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[10:07:12] <@E-J> http://thismight.be/offensive/uploads/2008/04/09/image/%5Bnerd%20joke%5D%20Analogies.jpg
[10:08:40] <+nicolas> hahaha
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[10:08:48] <@efneTI86> [[1]Netham] netham45 netham45 netham45 nethaERROR STACK OVERFLOW
[10:09:29]  * nicolas is getting really hungry
[10:09:47] <@E-J> because netham arrived?
[10:09:51] < notLeofox> what's wrong with IIS?
[10:09:56] < notLeofox> :( I use it and it works fine
[10:10:10] <+nicolas> ~latest version is not so bad ...
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[10:15:31] < JCarmack> hi all
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[10:25:00] <@efneTI86> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing?
[10:25:10] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v rivereye] by efneTI86
[10:25:20] < JCarmack> rivereye!
[10:25:24] < JCarmack> sup!
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[10:31:59] < JCarmack> trip!
[10:32:02] < JCarmack> hi!
[10:33:26] < tr1p1ea> evening mr carmack
[10:33:36] < tr1p1ea> hows the newest engine coming along? :)
[10:33:44] < JCarmack> good :)
[10:34:03] < JCarmack> im taking a poll.  do you play guitar?
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[10:37:22] < tr1p1ea> i started learning when i was young, but i have since stopped and forgotten basically everything
[10:38:40] < JCarmack> oh ok
[10:39:18] < BrandonW> lol
[10:39:21] < BrandonW> http://www.ticalc.org/archives/news/articles/14/143/143760.html
[10:39:23] < BrandonW> Read the comments.
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[10:41:23] <@E-J> BrandonW: heh
[10:42:14] < tr1p1ea> ..
[10:43:40] < tr1p1ea> hey BrandonW
[10:49:29] < tr1p1ea> how are things?
[10:50:18] <+patz2009> Kevin_O, almost commiting suicide? NEVER!
[10:52:18] < tr1p1ea> when was the last time an asm calc game for the z80 series was released?
[10:53:25] < tr1p1ea> and dont talk about kevin like that, it isnt funny
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[11:08:20] < tr1p1ea> bah ticalc.org is dead again
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[11:17:14] <@efneTI86> [Merthsoft] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
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[11:31:53]  * MetalRand grumbles.
[11:32:33] < BrandonW> I'm sure he was making fun of himself with that comment.
[11:32:54] < BrandonW> I don't know when a z80 assembly game was last released...why don't you write one, since you always talk about it?
[11:34:44] < tr1p1ea> maybe if i talk about it a second time i will
[11:34:58] < tr1p1ea> and you may be interested to know that my friend recieved a C&D letter
[11:35:13] < MetalRand> I think I'm 'bout to go back to using Ubuntu and stay with it... I know it sucks, but I got about six more program I use that I want, but their dependencies are broken in Debian's repositories.  :(
[11:35:28] < BrandonW> You have mentioned people making games for the z80 series many times here.
[11:35:30] < MetalRand> Plus, I still can't get stuff working here that in Ubuntu, just worked out of the box.
[11:35:54] < BrandonW> Who received a cease and desist letter?
[11:36:15] < tr1p1ea> nothign calc related tho, it was from his ISP regarding the downloading of copyrighted material
[11:36:17] < MetalRand> What'd he do, get caught pirating Windows?
[11:37:26] < BrandonW> I would be deeply upset if someone other than me got a cease and desist letter from TI.
[11:38:37] < MetalRand> I hope Microsoft does not rummage through #TCPA logs one day.
[11:40:37] < tr1p1ea> what if they are doing so right now?
[11:41:07] < MetalRand> I better shred my copy of Windows.
[11:41:54] < MetalRand> I don't use it that much anyway except for to use my scanner, since it is not working under Debian.
[11:42:03] < MetalRand> (But it worked on Ubuntu.)
[11:43:44] < BrandonW> tr1p1ea, then I would be happy.
[11:44:14] < MetalRand> TI or Microsoft?
[11:44:19] < MetalRand> If TI, why?
[11:46:17] < BrandonW> TI, because it would be an acknowledgement.
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[11:48:19] < MetalRand> I wish I could just buy Windows legally, then use that, but I don't want to pay for something that's going to get slow after using it.
[11:49:35] <@benryves> Why can't you buy Windows legally? :\
[11:49:49] < MetalRand> Financial difficulties.
[11:51:07] <@benryves> Ah, fair enough.
[11:52:50] < MetalRand> Linux would be nice enough if I can find a distro that everyone agrees upon that doesn't suck...  but it still has lots of packages available for it - either official or third-party.  Debian's no longer it.
[11:55:55] < MetalRand> Aww, why'd I listen to i_c-Y and Nikky and switch back from KDE?  This thing's eating up thirty percent of my memory and it is really slow...
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[12:00:26] <@efneTI86> [Merth] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
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[12:09:09] <+nicolas> MetalRand: just use a lightweight window manager instead of a fully fledged desktop environment.. or you could always try XFCE as well, it's not too bad :)
[12:15:10] < MetalRand> Holy crap:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaGpRIKCWSE
[12:17:16] < MetalRand> My comp would blow up if I did that.  :P  Even Compiz sucks on my comp.
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[12:27:20] < tr1p1ea> you start to die as soon as you're born
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[12:37:05] < JCarmack> im bored
[12:37:49] <@benryves> You could use the time to try and repair your apostrophe key?
[12:38:17] < JCarmack> ''''''''''''
[12:38:21] < JCarmack> there
[12:38:31] < tr1p1ea> hi ben :)
[12:39:20] <@benryves> Heya tr1p1ea, you've not been around much -- life keeping you busy, I trust?
[12:39:53] < i_c-Y> hes been around lately.
[12:40:00] < i_c-Y> bbl class and stuff
[12:40:23] < JCarmack> guys can u do something cool?
[12:41:30] <@benryves> Depends what you count as "cool", JCarmack. :\
[12:42:06] < i_c-Y> i can !k you.
[12:42:15] < JCarmack> yeah
[12:42:16] < JCarmack> k me
[12:42:19] < JCarmack> !b me
[12:42:29] < tr1p1ea> err
[12:42:39] < tr1p1ea> yeah been busy with the ahppenings of life ben :X
[12:42:46] < tr1p1ea> happenings even*
[12:44:10] < JCarmack> anyone wanna make a game in tigcc?
[12:45:17] < Milyardo> WHat kind of game?
[12:46:03] < JCarmack> a madden clone
[12:46:19] < Milyardo> Never been a fan of sports games
[12:46:43] < JCarmack> ok ill work with this
[12:46:46] < JCarmack> what do you like?
[12:47:33] < Milyardo> vim /usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf
[12:47:36] < Milyardo> whoope
[12:47:38] < Milyardo> s
[12:47:46] < Milyardo> Ummmm
[12:48:17] < Milyardo> I dunno I've had about half a million unfinished tigcc projects
[12:48:38] < JCarmack> wtf?
[12:48:44] < JCarmack> what kind of games do you like?
[12:49:01] < Milyardo> RPGs mostly what I do
[12:49:22] < JCarmack> doh
[12:49:26] < JCarmack> i hate rpgs
[12:50:11] < Milyardo> Shooters? There are already plenty of doom clones though
[12:50:31] < JCarmack> nah too hard to make a good one
[12:50:35] < JCarmack> actually impossible
[12:50:39] < JCarmack> not enough hardware
[12:53:49] < tr1p1ea> sure there is
[12:53:52] < Milyardo> I've seen some good ones
[12:54:10] < i_c-Y> protip - you dont need a geforce 9800gtx + 4 gigs ddr2 ram + windows + some other stuff for a good shooter to run.
[12:54:20] < Milyardo> And there's plenty of CPU to make one, I don't think there may be enough RAM though
[12:54:55] < JCarmack> exactly
[12:54:57] < tr1p1ea> i_c-Y: according to nubs on the internet, you need the unreal3 engine
[12:55:16] < JCarmack> nub?
[12:55:16] < i_c-Y> too bad every game on the ut3 engine fails miserably
[12:55:24] < i_c-Y> JCarmack: that means you.
[12:55:27] < tr1p1ea> my point exactly
[12:55:40] < tr1p1ea> err about u3 games failing
[12:55:41] <@benryves> The only one I've played was Bioshock, which had fairly amusingly broken physics.
[12:56:01] < tr1p1ea> ue3, rapid shovelware online shooter development
[12:56:12] < tr1p1ea> (although bioshock wasnt online)
[12:57:51] < tr1p1ea> with plastic lighting
[13:05:20] < Milyardo> ue3 isn't a bad engine, its just not what unreald claims it to be
[13:05:33] < Milyardo> its better than source
[13:05:47] < Milyardo> Although
[13:05:53] < Milyardo> I do think I like Source better
[13:06:13] < Milyardo> just because its broken physics are 10 times as hilarious
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[13:10:24] <@efneTI86> [Merthsoft] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
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[13:11:19] < i_c-Y> i care more on how fun the games are
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[14:12:36] < _Digital> people say they would love to have california weather
[14:12:53] < _Digital> not when it jump 34 degrees F in just a couple of hours
[14:13:12] < _Digital> tomorrow it's supposed to be even hotter. Give me cold!
[14:13:48] < _Digital> tomorrow it's supposed to be a 40F delta. Something that doesn't happen too often.
[14:13:48] <+nicolas> 34F...
[14:13:51]  * benryves observes the lump of snow on the front lawn that refuses to melt.
[14:13:52] <+nicolas> how much is that ?
[14:14:53] <+nicolas> almost 0 degrees celcius
[14:14:54] < _Digital> 18.8C
[14:15:06] < _Digital> I'm talking a relative temp,
[14:15:06] <+nicolas> 32F = 0C no ?
[14:15:11] <+nicolas> oooh
[14:15:26] <+nicolas> a difference of 18 degrees...
[14:15:27] < _Digital> the absolutes go from 12.2 C to 31.1 C
[14:15:29] <+nicolas> yeah, that's A LOT
[14:15:54] <+nicolas> here it went for 10ish to 25ish 2 days ago
[14:16:05] <+nicolas> but yesterday rain came by again
[14:16:14] < _Digital> tomorrow its supposed to go from 12.8 to 35.6
[14:16:16] <+nicolas> cooled things down :-/
[14:16:20] <+nicolas> 35.6 .. nice
[14:16:21] <+nicolas> :)
[14:16:27] <+nicolas> practically usmmer :P
[14:16:29] <+nicolas> summer*
[14:16:52] < _Digital> I have anything over 23-24 C
[14:17:00] < _Digital> and I gre up here
[14:17:05] < _Digital> grew*
[14:17:22] < _Digital> but there is an advantage...
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[14:17:42] < _Digital> at this time I need to go and drive to Disneyland to let a few folks in for the day
[14:17:57] <@E-J> inside 24C, outside 8C
[14:18:16] < _Digital> E-J, wanna switch?
[14:18:46] <@E-J> nah
[14:20:02] <@benryves> 'lo, E-J, and happy birthday!
[14:20:21] <@E-J> hello ben, and thanks
[14:20:43] < _Digital> !t Welcome to #TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org/ | BrandonW made a build of MirageOS! | Happy B-Day E-J!!!!
[14:20:43] -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to #TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org/ | BrandonW made a build of MirageOS! | Happy B-Day E-J!!!!
[14:20:58] < _Digital> pardon the rhyme
[14:21:27] <@E-J> i think 26th birthday is more d-day
[14:22:02] < _Digital> well, if you insist I go grab the napalm mortors instead of the cake....
[14:22:05] < _Digital> there is no cake
[14:22:08] < _Digital> the cake is a lie
[14:23:33] < _Digital> anywho, I gotta run
[14:25:26] <@benryves> See you, _Digital :)
[14:25:35] <@benryves> Got any plans, then, E-J?
[14:26:00] <@E-J> nope, going to work 2 hours from now
[14:29:30] <@benryves> Bah :( Oh well, at least it's Friday, right? :D
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[14:29:42] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] Hail to the king baby!
[14:30:40] < Sir_Lewk> ah shit
[14:30:48] < Sir_Lewk> clinton is at my school again today
[14:31:06] < Sir_Lewk> they better not lock down the campus again...
[14:39:52] < i_c-Y> put her under gun fire
[14:40:01] < i_c-Y> and let her tell the story of how she was nearly shot in philly
[14:40:07] < i_c-Y> and then her mom got scared
[14:40:16] < i_c-Y> and she had to move with her uncle and auntie in belair
[14:45:07] < tr1p1ea> thats twice this week someone has made a belair joke on irc
[14:45:59] < tr1p1ea> oh happy bday E-J :)
[14:46:02] <+ix> only in america!
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[15:05:18] < Milyardo> lolz
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[15:16:49] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] Hail to the king baby!
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[15:29:02] < Hoodman> Im in need of some help entering a rational multiplication problem, and getting it to simplify properly....i may need a program to do it. Im entering the problem sqrt(6x^3y^2)sqrt(24x^5b) the TI89 Titanium says the answer is 12sqrt(x^3)sqrt(x^5*y)lyl im looking for an answer in this form 12x^4ysqrt(y)
[15:29:36] < mokomull> Hoodman: That's rather simple
[15:29:57] < mokomull> recall that sqrt(x)*sqrt(y) = sqrt(x*y)
[15:30:12] < mokomull> so just multiply it out
[15:32:32] < Hoodman> im not quite getting what you mean?
[15:33:32] < Hoodman> ok,
[15:33:36] < Hoodman> i do get it
[15:33:42] < Hoodman> sorry took a seconf
[15:33:45] < Hoodman> second
[15:34:20] < Hoodman> so the question is.....how do i get the 89 to output it correctly
[15:42:04] < Hoodman> noone?
[15:42:32] < mokomull> you don't.
[15:43:13] < Hoodman> ya, ive been hearing alot of that
[15:43:22] < mokomull> because it has to keep the powers odd, or else it'd lose information.
[15:43:48] < Hoodman> ok, well i guess ill go look for software
[15:44:13] < mokomull> Learn to do it yourself.
[15:44:26] < Hoodman> i can do it myself
[15:44:35] < Hoodman> the calc is a tool to check it
[15:45:06] < Hoodman> you know how many times pply have told me that in this chan, its begining to piss me off a bit
[15:53:31] <@Andy_J> Welcome to the real world.
[15:53:39] <@Andy_J> We're here to help you learn how to do it, not do it for you.
[16:03:11] < Hoodman> well, thats not really the responce i usually get
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[16:30:00] < Sir_Lewk> par-tay time?
[16:30:22]  * Sir_Lewk parties
[16:30:31] < notLeofox> yayayayayayayaya
[16:30:36] < notLeofox> tomorrow is operation reconnect
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[16:54:14] < Hoodman2> Im in need of some help entering a rational multiplication problem, and getting it to simplify properly....i may need a program to do it. Im entering the problem sqrt(6x^3y^2)sqrt(24x^5b) the TI89 Titanium says the answer is 12sqrt(x^3)sqrt(x^5*y)lyl im looking for an answer in this form 12x^4ysqrt(y)
[16:54:27] < Hoodman2> some have said it connot be done
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[17:34:22] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] Hail to the king baby!
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[17:40:54] < i_c-Y> np: Sodom-M16
[17:42:23] < i_c-Y> WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SHOOOOT EM DOWN!
[17:44:29] < i_c-Y> lol
[17:44:36] < i_c-Y> theres a cover on this album of Surfin Bird
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[17:46:47] <@efneTI86> [Tyler2] I no longer speak fluent dialup.
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[18:22:45] < Hoodman2> Im in need of some help entering a rational multiplication problem, and getting it to simplify properly....i may need a program to do it. Im entering the problem sqrt(6x^3y^2)sqrt(24x^5b) the TI89 Titanium says the answer is 12sqrt(x^3)sqrt(x^5*y)lyl im looking for an answer in this form 12x^4ysqrt(y)
[18:23:22] <@benryves> Have you tried a forum, Hoodman2?
[18:23:45] < Hoodman2> i dont know of any
[18:24:20] <@benryves> http://www.unitedti.org/ or http://www.maxcoderz.org/ might be of use (the former is more active these days).
[18:24:36] < Hoodman2> ok, ill check it out
[18:24:55] < Hoodman2> thanks for not just telling me to learn to do it myself
[18:24:58] < Hoodman2> hhehehe
[18:26:06] <@benryves> I don't have a TI-89 of any description, so I can't answer you directly :
[18:28:56] < Hoodman2> i appreciate the help, i seem to be getting nothing but smartass comments lately
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[18:32:17] < Spengolo> this is a terrible mouse
[18:32:44] < Spengolo> I should start just carrying my own mouse everywhere, maybe one of those little laptop ones
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[18:34:09] < Spengolo> oh I found another cool internship
[18:34:17] < Spengolo> C++ and Java development
[18:34:58] < Spengolo> foreign exchange management.... stuff
[18:35:05] < Spengolo> o_o
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[18:35:18] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] Hail to the king baby!
[18:35:36] < Spengolo> foreign exchange exposure and risk management software technology
[18:35:37] < Spengolo> sheesh
[18:35:40] < Spengolo> what a long-ass name
[18:36:00] < Spengolo> I don't even know what that means :|
[18:38:43] < Spengolo> With FiREapps all areas of exposure management come together, helping companies to transform disparate business practices into a holistic, institutionalized process that maximizes global financial performance with the click of a button.
[18:38:50] < Spengolo> wtf is exposure management
[18:39:12] < Spengolo> holistic is a cool word, it's a shame we don't see it more often
[18:39:49] < Spengolo> anyone else read Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency?
[18:40:00] < Spengolo> :>
[18:42:53] < Spengolo> whales have huge penises
[18:42:59] < Spengolo> I wonder if there is whale porn somewhere
[18:43:05] < Spengolo> rule 35
[18:43:07] < Spengolo> 34
[18:43:16] < Spengolo> this keyboard sucks
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[18:43:46] < Spengolo> but anyways, there's horse porn right? horse dicks are miniscule compared to whales
[18:45:31] < Spengolo> ehh, I was gonna go google image search it but then I realized that it might not be the brightest idea in a public computer lab filled with other students
[18:46:13] < Spengolo> "The average blue whale produces over 400 gallons of sperm when it ejaculates"
[18:46:15] < Spengolo> oh SHIT
[18:46:21] < Spengolo> whales would make EXCELLENT porn stars
[18:51:31] < Spengolo> I think it's a lie
[18:51:38] < Spengolo> I bet whales can't make that much
[18:51:40] < Spengolo> I bet wikipedia knows
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[19:09:59] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] Hail to the king baby!
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[19:39:06] < Sir_Lewk> lolwut?
[19:39:27]  * chronomex shrugs
[19:39:30] < Sir_Lewk> I just watched "Gay Niggers from Outer Space"
[19:39:39] < Sir_Lewk> hilarious
[19:40:03] <@benryves> As good as Hercules in New York?
[19:40:31] < Sir_Lewk> never saw that
[19:40:35] < Sir_Lewk> but it was good
[19:40:46] < Sir_Lewk> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5121649266422516795&q=niggers+from+outer+space&total=13&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
[19:56:33] < Sir_Lewk> 9 flavors of epic
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[20:32:34] < Spengo> soup guise
[20:32:44] <@benryves> 'lo Spengo
[20:32:48] <+patz2009> soup Spengo
[20:32:56] <@benryves> Hi patz2009
[20:32:56] < mokomull> hi
[20:33:05] <+patz2009> Hello, benryves
[20:33:12] <@benryves> 'ning mokomull
[20:33:26] < Milyardo> HEELLLOOOOO
[20:33:28] < Milyardo> ALL
[20:34:12] < Milyardo> sudo echo $HELLO > /dev/all
[20:34:21] < mokomull> benryves: which 'ning :)
[20:36:07] < Milyardo> I saw Hercules in New York
[20:36:16] < Milyardo> Arnold is my hero
[20:36:28] < Milyardo> Or at least the guy who dubbed his voice is
[20:43:01] <@benryves> mokomull: Take your pick. :P
[20:43:32] <@benryves> Milyardo: I haven't seen the dubbed version, though Arnie's pretty unintelligible throughout.
[20:43:52] < mokomull> mmullins@lithium:~$ ssh short-eared
[20:43:52] < mokomull> You don't exist, go away!
[20:43:52] < mokomull> mmullins@lithium:~$ ssh beryllium
[20:43:52] < mokomull> You don't exist, go away!
[20:43:52] < mokomull> mmullins@lithium:~$ ssh short-eared.owlnet.rice.edu
[20:43:54] < mokomull> You don't exist, go away!
[20:43:57] < mokomull> okay, can ANYONE explain that?
[20:44:24] < mokomull> OH
[20:44:25] < mokomull> I can
[20:44:38] < mokomull> my LDAP server went down, so my username does not exist atm
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[20:49:05] <+aksnowman> lmao, while I was gone my mom and sister smelled some electronic smoke so I had them shut off my computers at the house here, it was one of my damn fans I had aimed on my computers
[20:49:26] < mokomull> wow
[20:50:22] <+aksnowman> yeah, I was worried about a fried mobo or hdd or somethin'
[20:50:30] <+aksnowman> hahaha
[20:50:36] < mokomull> I'd be pissed to lose the uptime for something so trivial
[20:50:36] <+aksnowman> ok, food time
[20:50:53] <+aksnowman> yeah, I thought about that too
[20:50:56] < mokomull>  15:56:18 up 18 days, 22:44,  7 users,  load average: 0.05, 0.03, 0.00
[20:51:03] <+aksnowman> finally had a couple months on it again
[20:51:05] < mokomull> wrong computer ><
[20:51:06] <+aksnowman>  12:45:46 up 15 min,  3 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.19, 0.32
[20:51:08] <+aksnowman> :'(
[20:51:17] < moko|586>  15:56:39 up 326 days,  4:01,  4 users,  load average: 0.10, 0.12, 0.15
[20:51:26] <+aksnowman> nice
[20:51:50] < mokomull> I got 352 once and then some teenager went like 60 down our street and wrapped himself around a power pole ><
[20:52:44] <+aksnowman> lol
[20:54:26] < Hoodman2> will it show everything huh
[20:54:34] < Hoodman2> i wont get in trouble?
[20:54:46] < Hoodman2> Current System Configuration —I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n—
[20:54:47] < Hoodman2> Operating System: Windows XP Build 2600, Service Pack 2 up for 1 hours, 45 minutes 59 seconds
[20:54:47] < Hoodman2> CPU/MEM: Intel P4 2.7GHz with Currently 864 of 2047MB in use which is 42.21%
[20:54:47] < Hoodman2> Storage System: n/a Internet Connection: n/a
[20:54:47] < Hoodman2> Display System: n/a using a n/a monitor at 1024 by 768 32bit color 60Hz refresh
[20:54:54] <+aksnowman> eww, colors! :(
[20:55:10] < Hoodman2> how do i make them go away!!
[20:55:41] <+aksnowman> I dunno what script you're using, and if you're gonna go through the trouble of editing the script, you aught to get rid of some of that other crap too
[20:56:03] <+aksnowman> I'm guessing mIRC or xchat?
[20:56:15] < Hoodman2> invision
[20:56:37] < Hoodman2> Current Drive Storage Status. —I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n—
[20:56:37] < Hoodman2> Drive C of 232GB has 59.3GB free. Drive E of 222GB has 21.6GB free. Drive F of 232GB has 20.5GB free. Drive G of 465GB has 44.2GB free. Drive H of 233GB has 15.9GB free. Drive S of 222GB has 19.8GB free. Drive T of 222GB has 66.1GB free. Drive U of 222GB has 219GB free. Drive V of 222GB has 189GB free.
[20:56:37] < Hoodman2> Total Storage: 2.23TB Total Used: 1.58TB Total Free: 656GB
[20:56:44] < Hoodman2> ok, thats better
[20:56:46] <+aksnowman> hmm, never heard of it
[20:56:56] <+aksnowman> that's slightly better, but still overly verbose
[20:57:08] < Hoodman2> i can deal with that
[20:57:25] <+aksnowman> well, I'll be back in a few, I'm starving
[20:57:43] <@benryves> Ouch, my eyes. :\
[20:59:05] <+ports> Hoodman2, wow
[20:59:12] <+ports> Hoodman2, i wish i had 656gb free
[21:00:27] < Hoodman2> i wish i had more space
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[21:01:26] <@benryves> All that, and only 1024x768 resolution?
[21:01:44] < Hoodman> ya, i just dont like it all little
[21:01:50] <@benryves> Seems a little unbalanced, I was using higher resolution monitors than that in the Pentium 1 era :P
[21:01:56] < Hoodman> its on a 22
[21:02:08] <@benryves> The largest pixels in the West.
[21:02:15] < Hoodman> ya, and this script doesent identify the correct processor
[21:02:33] < Hoodman> nahh, its an lcd
[21:02:55] <@benryves> A 22" LCD that has a native resolution of 1024x768? :\
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[21:03:12] <@benryves> Or are you - horror of horrors - not running it at its native resolution? :D
[21:03:25] < mokomull> man, I feel sorry for Hoodman ... my 22" is 1680x1050.
[21:03:26] < Hoodman> i have no idea
[21:03:39] <@benryves> Snap, mokomull.
[21:03:45] < mokomull> and DAMN I've been doing too much C++ in the last day... I keep trying to end my sentences like this;
[21:04:23] < Hoodman> its just to small
[21:04:36] < Hoodman> it does look alot better though
[21:04:53] <@benryves> You can change the DPI setting in Windows, so it scales everything up.
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[21:06:01] < Hoodman> damn i need to restart for the settings
[21:06:08] < Hoodman> this better be worth it
[21:06:11] < Hoodman> lol
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[21:09:02] <+aksnowman> damn, his whole 2 hours of uptime gone
[21:09:04] <+aksnowman> hahaha
[21:09:11] < mokomull> ror
[21:10:01] < Spengo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdnTr84Anc4
[21:10:02] < Spengo> HAHA
[21:11:39] <@benryves> His PC certainly takes a while to reboot. :\
[21:17:01] < mokomull> either that or he got sidetracked
[21:17:08] < mokomull> http://gizmodo.com/378144/first-watch-with-all+mechanical-digital-display-verdict-absolutely-amazing <- nuts
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[21:17:54] <@benryves> Clever.
[21:17:56] < mokomull> ............. haha
[21:18:01] < Hoodman> ok, looks better
[21:18:02] <@benryves> wb Hoodman :D
[21:18:14] < Hoodman> but...it didnt change the dpi in my script
[21:18:19] < Hoodman> hmm
[21:18:30] < Hoodman> Current System Configuration —I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n—
[21:18:30] < Hoodman> Operating System: Windows XP Build 2600, Service Pack 2 up for 4 minutes 18 seconds
[21:18:30] < Hoodman> CPU/MEM: Intel P4 2.7GHz with Currently 709 of 2047MB in use which is 34.64%
[21:18:30] < Hoodman> Storage System: n/a Internet Connection: n/a
[21:18:30] < Hoodman> Display System: n/a using a n/a monitor at 1680 by 1050 32bit color 60Hz refresh
[21:18:39] <@benryves> Ah, that's better. :)
[21:18:45] < Hoodman> i thought i fixed the colors...my bad
[21:18:46] <+aksnowman> color and everly verbose still...
[21:18:56] <@benryves> Even though the cyan-on-white is still eye-rapingly horrible. :)
[21:18:59] <+chronomex> !k Hoodman calors + scripts, oh my!
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[21:19:06] <+chronomex> *colors
[21:19:15] <+aksnowman> benryves: on black for me, not quite so bad but still not very nice
[21:19:17] <+aksnowman> lol
[21:19:18] <+chronomex> what a bad time to drop by
[21:19:26] < Hoodman> Current Drive Storage Status. —I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n—
[21:19:26] < Hoodman> Drive C of 232GB has 59.3GB free. Drive E of 222GB has 21.6GB free. Drive F of 232GB has 20.5GB free. Drive G of 465GB has 43.9GB free. Drive H of 233GB has 16.2GB free. Drive S of 222GB has 19.8GB free. Drive T of 222GB has 66.1GB free. Drive U of 222GB has 219GB free. Drive V of 222GB has 189GB free.
[21:19:26] < Hoodman> Total Storage: 2.23TB Total Used: 1.58TB Total Free: 656GB
[21:19:30] <+chronomex> Hoodman: also you have colors in your /quit message
[21:19:36] < Hoodman> ok..just white now
[21:19:39] < Hoodman> hehehe
[21:19:57] < Hoodman> check now
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[21:20:10] <+chronomex> that's /part, not /quit
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[21:20:22] <+chronomex> nice
[21:20:26] <+aksnowman> lol
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[21:20:38] < Hoodman> and?
[21:20:47] <@benryves> aksnowman: Hm, I'm probably a freak because I don't like my IRC client to look like some text-mode software from c.1983.
[21:20:49] < prime38> no colors that time
[21:21:08] < Hoodman> ok, hopefully it sticks
[21:21:22] <+aksnowman> lol, I like white on black, easier on the eyes
[21:21:43] < Hoodman> i like colors but oh well
[21:21:56] <+chronomex> I like whatever colors I choose
[21:22:05] < Hoodman> hehe
[21:23:37] < Hoodman> ok, thats much better
[21:23:45] < Hoodman> found the font
[21:23:55] < Hoodman> well, thanks for the resolution help
[21:24:53] <@benryves> Admittedly Vista does a better job at non-standard (ie, non-96) DPI settings. :\
[21:25:12] <+chronomex> it does, but mostly just cos XP sucks monkeyballs in that dep't
[21:25:21] < Hoodman> heheh
[21:25:48] <@benryves> http://www.istartedsomething.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/dpi480_3_l.jpg <- 480dpi FTW. o_O
[21:25:54] < Hoodman> now i just need to figure out why this script doesent recognise my processor
[21:28:10] <+chronomex> ugh java security managers are complicated
[21:30:17] < prime38> i need AA batteries!
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[21:35:21] < prime38> my mouse eats batteries for breakfast, it seems
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[21:36:53] < mokomull> I keep getting cheap rechargeable AAs
[21:36:57] < mokomull> I've amassed quite a collection now
[21:37:29] < Hoodman> i saw these AA bateries that had built in usb to charge them
[21:37:33] < mokomull> I've probably spent $30 or rechargeables, but I use them in my keyboard, mouse, calculator, remote ... a lot of things
[21:37:39] < prime38> fry's was selling 100 AAs for $20
[21:37:40] < mokomull> Hoodman: They're quite sucky
[21:37:51] < Hoodman> im glad i didnt buy them then
[21:38:54] <@benryves> USB can't source much current, I'd imagine they charge rather slowly.
[21:39:16] < Hoodman> probably
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[21:41:02] <+aksnowman> (topic) a build of MOS? what exactly does that mean? lol
[21:41:31] < mokomull> and they're far smaller capacity than similar AAs.
[21:43:13] < prime38> he decompiled from the app and then re build it
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[21:48:47] <+aksnowman> I see...
[21:49:01] <+aksnowman> and any particular reason why that's so exciting? or just a slow day for news?
[21:49:02] <+aksnowman> lol
[21:49:12] < prime38> he intends to improve on it
[21:49:23] <+aksnowman> ahh
[21:49:30] < prime38> and he thought that the source code was lost
[21:49:32] < prime38> or something
[21:49:37] < prime38> it may be or it might not be
[21:49:54] <+aksnowman> makes sense
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[21:50:37] <@E-J> not b-day anymore, at least not here where i live
[21:50:52] < prime38> how old are you now?
[21:50:53] <@benryves> How was work, E-J? Bouncing?
[21:51:15] <@E-J> prime38: 26
[21:52:18] <@E-J> benryves: not much bouncing, read local news papers, asked some id's (it's bar where under 20 are underage) and that was that
[21:53:48] <@E-J> one girl was born in 1989 and i had to say to her that she can't come and other one was born 1st of july 1988 but he was driver to other people so i let him in
[21:54:39] <@E-J> both were over 18 so that 20-line is only "directive"
[21:54:48] <@benryves> Ah, OK. Is 20 the usual age limit for bars? Here it's usually either 18 or 21, depending on the sort of bar.
[21:56:07] <@E-J> 20 is for beer houses mostly, 18 is normal bars and most discos and 24 is some night clubs
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[21:59:59] < prime38> wtf - http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,350249,00.html
[22:00:19] <@E-J> if you would come here and go to bar there are mostly signs "Ikäraja k18" where ikäraja is age limit and k18 = "kielletty alle 18-vuotiailta" = "forbidden under age 18"
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[22:09:40] <+patz2009> !qfind the spoon is in
[22:09:41] <@efneTI86> 1220:Andy_J: <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!! | < Kira> There is no spoon! | <+Sir_Lewk> The cake is a lie! | < Randomist> The Spoon is in the Cake.
[22:09:44] <@efneTI86> (All of 1 match)
[22:29:27] < tr1p1ea> hehe
[22:30:28] < tr1p1ea> anyone ever tried to dupe you with a fake id E-J?
[22:32:52] <@E-J> tr1p1ea: i have been in "business" only 2 months, so no :) Here it's very hard to make fake id, mostly people use id of their older brother/sister or id from some of their friends
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[22:33:35] <@efneTI86> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[22:36:02] <+chronomex> well that's not too shabby ... http://www.speedtest.net/result/258285370.png
[22:36:06] <+chronomex> certainly better than my home wifi
[22:36:44] < tr1p1ea> nice
[22:37:18] <@E-J> tr1p1ea: most people use driver licence as id and it's plastic and looks like this http://www.ake.fi/images/eu%20etupuoli.jpg
[22:37:28] < BrandonW> http://www.unitedti.org/index.php?showtopic=7852&st=0 People who don't know what they're doing shouldn't be trying this.
[22:37:39] <@E-J> whithout that specimen-text
[22:37:44] <@E-J> with*
[22:39:29] <@E-J> in local ircquotes there is text where someone got fine from subway in london when he was travelling without ticket, he showed driver's license as id and got fine to person called "ajokortti körkort"
[22:39:55] <@E-J> ajokortti is driver's license in finnish and körkort same in swedish
[22:41:13] < tr1p1ea> BrandonW: Non-one in this scene knows what they are doing
[22:42:07] <@benryves> E-J: Heh :D
[22:42:35] <@E-J> benryves: btw is snow already melted?
[22:43:16] <@benryves> (In UK English, a "subway" is usually a tunnel under a road, for crossing by foot).
[22:43:39] <+chronomex> interesting
[22:43:47] <+chronomex> we call that an underpass in NW US
[22:44:02] <@benryves> E-J: It mostly melted on Sunday; my sister and mother made a snowman though, and that's lasted quite a long time.
[22:44:02] < BrandonW> Some people know what they're doing.
[22:44:16]  * chronomex is wearing stylish red/blue 3D glasses
[22:45:37] < prime38> they call the subway the tube in london
[22:45:47] < prime38> i've ridden on the tube
[22:45:53] <@E-J> isn't it underground
[22:45:57] <@E-J> here it's metro
[22:46:04] <@benryves> Yep, it's "The Underground", nicknamed "The Tube".
[22:46:21] <+Tari> I mostly know what I'm doing
[22:46:22] <@E-J> and nickname is metro
[22:46:55] <@benryves> E-J: Not winning any points for originality, then. :D
[22:47:21] <@E-J> yep :)
[22:49:27] <@E-J> benryves: but maybe its shortness win some points http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Helsinki_metro_map_2007.png
[22:50:31] < i_c-Y> ive listgened to this song like 5 times. 
[22:50:54] <@E-J> this is maybe better map http://www.hel.fi/wps/wcm/resources/image/468b2dd4ec02c25a/metro_2007_net.jpg
[22:51:04] <@benryves> E-J: My metro could beat up your metro -- http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/travel/downloads/tube_map.gif :D
[22:51:47] < prime38> for reals
[22:51:49] <@E-J> benryves: well if you can get lost to this finnish one... :)
[22:52:30] < i_c-Y> benryves: suck on http://www.mta.info/nyct/maps/submap.htm
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[22:53:54] <@benryves> Heh. :)
[22:55:24] < prime38> come on tf2 updates.....
[22:55:29] < prime38> get released
[22:57:22] < i_c-Y> lultf2
[22:58:33] < prime38> loli_c-Y
[22:59:04] < prime38> tf2 is pretty sweet
[23:01:38] < tr1p1ea> friggin leg muscles
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[23:09:02]  * tr1p1ea ruffles sombody else's truffles
[23:09:05] < tr1p1ea> some*
[23:09:55] <@benryves> Is that a euphemism? >_>
[23:10:02] < _Digital> lol
[23:10:22] <+patz2009> "I'd like to ruffle her truffles..."
[23:11:08] < prime38> heh
[23:12:38] < prime38> would you ruffle it?
[23:12:56] <+patz2009> I'd ruffle those truffles all day long.
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[23:28:57] < i_c-Y> om nom nom nom
[23:29:21] < i_c-Y> bentobox
[23:29:58] < _Digital> bbl
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[23:32:27] < tr1p1ea_> bentobox? - noodles?
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[23:36:39] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] Hail to the king baby!
[23:37:51] <+Tari> \o/
[23:37:58] <+Tari> demonoid's back!
[23:38:22] <@E-J> benryvestobox?
[23:38:29] < btrettel> Wow, Demonoid is back.
[23:38:48] < tr1p1ea_> E-J: i thought the same thing ehhe
[23:38:50] < tr1p1ea_> hhmmm..
[23:38:54] < tr1p1ea_> HHMM..!!!
[23:39:12] <@benryves> ...
[23:39:27] < tr1p1ea_> it seems i may have found a way to cheat with this raycaster to suit my purposes
[23:40:32] <@benryves> Still working on that, tr1p1ea_? Ace :D
[23:40:46] < tr1p1ea_> well actually fired it up last night after a long time off
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[23:41:09] < tr1p1ea> since i had an idea whilst i was labouring away at work
[23:41:51] <@benryves> It's always the way. Get the body working on something so the mind can have some time to itself :)
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[23:42:10] < tr1p1ea> :)
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[23:42:41] < tr1p1ea> its kind of strange that im cheating at raycasting, which already could be called cheating itself :)
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[23:45:40] < _Digital> and I speak of not network issues ;)
[23:46:01] < _Digital> updated router software and troubleshooting with Verizon atm
[23:46:11] <@benryves> tr1p1ea: What's the idea, then?
[23:46:20] < _Digital> since I'm not getting my 15/15 like I should right now
[23:46:43] < tr1p1ea> i cant say since it will totally give something away
[23:48:03] <@benryves> Which at least gives me the hope that you're actually going to finish it youself anyway, which is a much better answer :D
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[23:53:09] < tr1p1ea> :P
[23:54:00] < Hoodman> i hate when that happens
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