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[00:25:38] < Trigger91> hey igot that emu workin now
[00:25:47] < Trigger91> but the rom for my calculator isnt working on it
[00:25:54] < Trigger91> the ones that come with it do
[00:27:03] < prime38> ok
[00:27:21] < Trigger91> any way i can dcc and see if you guys can get it working?
[00:27:28] < Trigger91> its saying its a 92 rom
[00:27:32] < Trigger91> but its off a 89 plus
[00:27:46] < Trigger91> itworked fine with the first emu I was using
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[00:38:01] < Barrett> is internet purchasing tax based on the billing address or the shipping address?
[00:38:11] < Trigger91> ok i got the calc up and running now i just error out trying to put my old programs on it
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[00:42:27] <@efneTI86> [[1]Netham] netham45 netham45 netham45 nethaERROR STACK OVERFLOW
[00:42:47] <+Tari> no
[00:42:51] <+Tari> stop failing
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[00:46:03] <@efneTI86> [Tyler2] I no longer speak fluent dialup.
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[01:04:17] <@efneTI86> [Merthsoft] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
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[01:19:04] <@efneTI86> [Tyler2] I no longer speak fluent dialup.
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[01:19:34] <+Tari> :(
[01:25:38] < i_c-Y> Barrett: i think shipping
[01:25:52] < i_c-Y> when i was buying my laptop, there was more tax to get it in NY than in NJ
[01:26:02] < i_c-Y> even though the billing address was in NJ in both cases
[01:29:15] < Barrett> geh
[01:29:24] < Barrett> I just did the higher of the two (california)
[01:29:29] < Barrett> only 1 percent more
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[01:48:10] < Netham45> http://minx.cc/?post=259064
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[02:05:19] < i_c-Y> at some point in my life, i want to buy a bladecenter or something.
[02:06:39] < i_c-Y> plus
[02:06:46] < i_c-Y> bitches love computing power
[02:06:47] < i_c-Y> :D
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[02:10:51] < aadster> Hey guys
[02:11:00] < aadster> I recently aquired my friends old ti-83 plus
[02:11:25] < aadster> and when i put batteries in, after abour 4 seconds, the screen will blink a few times, and go completely black. 
[02:11:32] < aadster> It stays black until i pull a battery.
[02:11:47] < aadster> My friend said it was broken and gave it to me...and I have no idea what the problem could be.
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[02:11:53] < aadster> Any ideas?
[02:11:59] < i_c-Y> hm. wait for BrandonW to show up i suppose.
[02:12:09] < i_c-Y> the obvious and probably not right answer is to check contrast
[02:12:16] < aadster> haha yea i did that
[02:12:18] < i_c-Y> but theres a ton of ways to get that.
[02:12:30] < i_c-Y> bad lcd hardware
[02:12:32] < i_c-Y> for example
[02:13:53] < aadster> it blinks really dark and stays on like it was put on full contrast
[02:14:16] < aadster> and when I blindly tried to send an OS to it (v1.15) from another 83p
[02:14:31] < aadster> the screen stayed dark, but the OS seemed to send, and the calc shut off, while the other calc displayed "done"
[02:14:43] < aadster> But I still have the same problem when powering it on.
[02:14:48] < Netham45> sounds like bad hardware
[02:14:51] < aadster> screen blinks (sometime doesnt) and stays black
[02:15:02] < aadster> oh, and I can't get it to turn off by 2nd-off
[02:15:10] < aadster> 2nd-ON ***
[02:15:18] < Netham45> BrandonW, poke
[02:15:26] < aadster> So, it's nothing a taking-apart and messing with could fix?
[02:15:31] < Netham45> idk
[02:15:34] < Netham45> you'd have to ask BrandonW
[02:15:35] < aadster> a google search got me nothing.
[02:15:45] < aadster> BrandonW
[02:16:00] < Netham45> !lastspoke BrandonW 
[02:16:03] < Netham45> >.>
[02:16:48] < aadster> hmm
[02:16:51] < aadster> crap i gotta run
[02:16:55] < aadster> if you find anything
[02:16:57] < aadster> please email me
[02:16:59] < aadster> aadster16@gmail.com
[02:17:00] < aadster> later
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[02:17:24] < i_c-Y> its kinda hard to prescribe treatments over IRC
[02:17:34] < i_c-Y> esp if they're not exactly problems that are always solvable
[02:17:39] < i_c-Y> and could be caused in a bunch of ways
[02:17:56] <+Tari> :D
[02:18:04] <+Tari> I just did cp /dev/sda3 /dev/hdc4
[02:18:13] <+Tari> after being careful with fdisk
[02:18:17] < Netham45> i_c-Y, that's why we point them to Brandon
[02:18:30] < i_c-Y> why would you do that tari...
[02:18:43] <+Tari> moving the root partition to another drive
[02:19:16] < i_c-Y> not exactly the way id do it but okay.
[02:19:38] <+Tari> too lazy to figure out the block size for dd
[02:19:46] < i_c-Y> also not the way id do it.
[02:19:52] <+Tari> or to boot a live disc to do a partimage of it
[02:20:06] < i_c-Y> hm. plausible but still probably not how id do it, but whatever.
[02:20:17] < Leofox> blurghs
[02:20:20] <+Tari> then how'd you do it (just interested)?
[02:20:30] < Leofox> i want to tell people stuff on the dutch myspace while i'm drunk
[02:20:31] < Leofox> but its down
[02:20:41] <+Tari> (that's how would, not how did)
[02:21:28] < i_c-Y> well, dd'ing over different disks isn't exactly a smart thing between drives and for important stuff.
[02:21:53] < i_c-Y> probably something similar to partimaging, depends on the file system though
[02:22:12] < i_c-Y> probably a combination of tools like dump, cpio, etc. 
[02:22:29] <+Tari> if this works, yay
[02:22:36] <+Tari> otherwise I'll just do a fresh install
[02:23:02] < i_c-Y> at any rate, i wouldnt do " cp /dev/sda3 /dev/hdc4" on a system that was running - think of some of the pseudofilesystems you are running among other things.
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[02:23:54] < i_c-Y> more issues if you have some of the more intense security provisions.
[02:24:10] < i_c-Y> tripwire would bring your system down should you try shit like that.
[02:24:56] <+Tari> heh
[02:25:10] <+Tari> if I was dumb, I'd do cp -a / /mnt/newroot
[02:25:19] <+Tari> introducing any number of stupidities
[02:25:27] < i_c-Y> at any rate, if i were doing something like that, id bring it into some intermediete format first, and id also bring the system offline to do that.
[02:25:40] <+Tari> and I'm lazy
[02:25:55] < i_c-Y> what distro are you on?
[02:26:20] <+Tari> gentoo
[02:26:34] < i_c-Y> heh. gentoo. 
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[02:29:31] < Spengo> assassin's creed on steam
[02:29:39] < i_c-Y> too bad it sucks.
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[02:30:42] < Spengo> I'm not suggesting anyone buy it
[02:30:51] < i_c-Y> hm.
[02:30:57] < Spengo> pirate it though? :)
[02:31:00] < i_c-Y> i should normalize some of these recordings.
[02:31:04] < i_c-Y> piracy is a crime, Spengo 
[02:31:11] < i_c-Y> and teh #tcpa does not promote crime.
[02:31:21] < Spengo> it was a question
[02:31:29] < Spengo> just because I marked it with a smiley doesn't mean I support it
[02:31:36] < Spengo> :)
[02:31:51] < Spengo> wat
[02:32:04] < Spengo> it looks like it might be one of those terrible ports that require ridiculous specs
[02:32:41] <+Tari> indeed
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[02:32:51] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!!
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[02:33:08] < i_c-Y> (insert "Oh Jade, your game feels so good!" by Chugworth Academy comic here)
[02:33:20] < Spengo> haha
[02:34:16]  * Sir_Lewk is installing gentoo on his router
[02:34:22] < Spengo> hmm
[02:34:28] <+Sir_Lewk> been a long time since I last did this...
[02:34:35] < Spengo> you know, the gfx style looks a lot like cod4
[02:34:39] < i_c-Y> http://chugworth.com/crap/jadecomic.jpg for those of you over 18.
[02:34:42] < Spengo> just swords instead of guns
[02:34:43] < i_c-Y> lolgentoo
[02:34:59] < Spengo> maybe it's because they are both in middle-east-ish places
[02:35:12] < Spengo> but the effects too
[02:37:34] < i_c-Y> part of the issue with assassin's creed is that it uses some autodesk intermediete
[02:37:43] < i_c-Y> and everyone knows autodesk is slooooooooooooooooooow at life
[02:37:55] < Leofox> that's not the problem with assasins creed
[02:38:18] < Leofox> the problem is that you have to cock about for a week before you can kill stuff
[02:38:32] <+Tari> yeh, that didn't work
[02:38:42] < i_c-Y> Tari: for good reason too :)
[02:38:45] <+Tari> guess I'll work on a reinstall
[02:38:55] < i_c-Y> just take your system offline and partimage it or g4l it or something
[02:38:58] < i_c-Y> what fs is it on?
[02:39:08] <+Tari> jfs
[02:39:32] < i_c-Y> thats a bit of a pain i suppose
[02:39:57] < i_c-Y> not really
[02:40:02] < i_c-Y> i think clonezilla takes care of it fairly well
[02:40:18] < i_c-Y> which is partimage based too.
[02:41:19] <+Tari> I'll give g4l for a try
[02:41:24] <+Tari> -for
[02:41:26] < i_c-Y> no.
[02:41:40] < i_c-Y> well the livecd does have partimage on it i think
[02:44:12] < i_c-Y> partition based copying didnt work too well, even with ext3
[02:45:05] <+Tari> clonezilla then
[02:45:13] <+Tari> live cd, of course
[02:45:45] < i_c-Y> of course youd want some intermediete space 
[02:45:59] < i_c-Y> and you will need a new fstab afterward
[02:46:02] < i_c-Y> but its awwright.
[02:46:15] <+Tari> the source drive is 9 gigs and the destination is 20
[02:46:23] <+Tari> so I've got free space to deal with
[02:46:29] <+Tari> or there's always smb on this machine
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[02:52:28] < Spengo> heh
[02:52:33] < Spengo> steam has other ubisoft games now too
[02:52:34] < Spengo> far cry
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[03:28:50] < _Digital> I'm glad I don't watch tv
[03:29:02] < _Digital> the comedy shows are really really dumb these days
[03:29:50] < Grue> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hczaiM3LH0M
[03:31:59] < BrandonW> That guy's LCD is borked, but it has a perfect use as a remote control calculator. It can be connected to a PC and remotely controlled over the internet, all without seeing the LCD.
[03:32:31] < BrandonW> Or you could attach it to the Norland Research robot, and use another calculator or PC to transfer-and-remotely-execute updates.
[03:33:10] < Netham45> BrandonW, how comes the Nspire?
[03:33:25] < BrandonW> There's nothing going on with it.
[03:33:41] < Netham45> you did actually hack it, right?
[03:33:54] < BrandonW> Of course not.
[03:34:04] < BrandonW> You people should know better than to believe anything I say on April Fool's.
[03:34:06] < Netham45> ok
[03:34:09] < Netham45> then change the fucking topic
[03:34:22] < BrandonW> !k Netham45 cursing
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[03:34:42] < Netham45> !k BrandonW lying
[03:34:44] < Netham45> :(
[03:35:12] < BrandonW> What I said was completely plausible, it works to crash it, and it's what I'm working on. But I'm probably not going to succeed or at least succeed in a way I know is working until we dump the memory.
[03:36:37] < BrandonW> I fully intend to get the heat gun and programmer.
[03:37:26] < _Digital> BrandonW last time I kicked for fsck they even said they don't do it for even Netham45
[03:37:56] < BrandonW> I'm not they.
[03:38:14] < _Digital> aparently
[03:39:14] < _Digital> there are two types of edible meat in America: chicken and beef
[03:39:29] < Netham45> pork
[03:39:37] < Netham45> and.. erm... nevermind
[03:40:12] <+TD-Linux> turkey?
[03:40:14] < Spengo> fish?
[03:40:18] <+patz2009> spam
[03:40:18] <+patz2009> ?
[03:40:20] < Spengo> oh wait people don't count that as meat
[03:40:26] < Spengo> wtf why don't people count fish as meat
[03:40:30] < Spengo> IT'S MEAT DAMMIT
[03:40:34] <+TD-Linux> pepperoni?
[03:40:40] <+TD-Linux> oh wait that's not meat either
[03:40:46] < Spengo> uh yes it is...
[03:40:53] < Spengo> lmao
[03:40:56] <+TD-Linux> I suppose it depends on where you get it from
[03:40:56] < Spengo> what do you think is in it
[03:41:24] <+TD-Linux> most of the stuff I've had tastes like compressed wood fiber
[03:41:31] <+TD-Linux> + seasoning
[03:41:32] < Spengo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepperoni
[03:41:39] < Spengo> you eat fail pepperoni then
[03:42:18] < Spengo> I get locally made pepperoni that is RBST-free (same with all meat) and let me tell you the taste difference is more than worth the price difference
[03:42:56] < Netham45> there's a little butcher shop down the street from my house, and they make awesome meats.
[03:43:00] < Spengo> nice
[03:43:08] < Spengo> I usually get meat from new seasons grocery store
[03:43:08] <+TD-Linux> same here, we never go there for some reason though :(
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[03:43:25] < Spengo> they always stuff from local farms
[03:43:30] < Spengo> get stuff*
[03:44:06] < Netham45> I don't go to mine very often, it's pretty expensive.
[03:46:18] < Spengo> well I used to get meat from winco...
[03:46:50] < Spengo> winco's good for it's vast bulk supplies, works for produce and packaged stuff
[03:46:54] < Spengo> but meat, not so much
[03:47:27] < Netham45> there is a farmers market we get most of our produce from
[03:47:42] < Spengo> farmer's market is the best place for produce
[03:47:44] < Netham45> I love *real* tomatoes
[03:47:45] < Spengo> but that's not all year round
[03:47:56] < Netham45> yea. :(
[03:48:11] < Spengo> after I started getting meat from animals that AREN'T jacked up on steroids I could never go back though
[03:48:25] < Netham45> yea
[03:48:50] < Netham45> my mom makes homemade pizzas with homemade crust/sauce and meat from the butcher shop, they are sooooo good
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[03:52:19] < Barrett> no they aren't
[03:55:44] < Spengo> Barrett likes michael jackson cows
[03:55:52] < Barrett> really?
[03:55:54] < Barrett> cool
[03:57:01] < Spengo> they come from spayz! o_o
[04:08:03] < Grue> http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1091.html
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[04:35:15] < Barrett> oh how sad
[04:35:19] < Barrett> the early november broke up
[04:36:07] < Barrett> I will never understand why that band wasn't more popular than it was
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[04:56:13] < Netham45> Spengo, you there?
[04:56:20] < Spengo> yeah
[04:56:32] < Netham45> wanna help someone with overclocking in #smdepot?
[04:56:51] <+Nikky> ...
[04:57:30] < chronomex> what's #smdepot?
[04:57:34] < Spengo> uh
[04:57:38] < Netham45> it's an xbox/psp modding channel
[04:57:39] < Spengo> I'm kinda busy
[04:57:41] < chronomex> autokline channel?
[04:57:43] < Netham45> softmod depot
[04:57:47] < Spengo> you don't overclock psp
[04:57:56] < Netham45> he's working on his PC
[04:57:58] < Spengo> just bring it up to normal speed since it has a stock underclock
[04:58:02] < Spengo> oh
[04:58:25] < Spengo> tell him to get everest to keep tabs on temps and voltages while running stress tests
[04:58:41] < Netham45> >.>
[04:58:51] < Netham45> he's trying to OC a 3GHz C2D to 4.2GHz
[04:58:55] < Netham45> on stock fans
[04:59:02] < Spengo> tell him he's stupid
[04:59:05] < Netham45> yea
[04:59:18] < Netham45> I told him to at least get a better air cooler, preferabally water cooling
[04:59:37] < Netham45> he responded with, "water cooling is a hassle though"
[05:02:00] < Spengo> tell him he shouldn't be messing around with his computer then
[05:02:34] < Netham45> do you have water cooling?
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[05:04:31] < mokomull> why the hell do people OC shit like that
[05:04:49] <+Nikky> because they're like netham
[05:04:57] < Hoodman> anyone here have an luck with watercooling?
[05:05:07] < Hoodman> i have been thinking about it
[05:05:10] <+Nikky> don't
[05:05:13] <+Nikky> it's wasteful
[05:05:21] <+Nikky> Overclocking requires tons of power... and wastes it
[05:05:23] <+Nikky> needlessly
[05:05:24] < mokomull> waste of time and money
[05:05:34] < Hoodman> i really need to cool this chip, i dont overclock
[05:05:36] < mokomull> yeah, indeed
[05:06:01] < mokomull> I'm doing fine with the HS/F that came with my retail box...
[05:06:10] < mokomull> granted, you probably have a faster chip than me :)
[05:06:38] < Netham45> I have watercooling
[05:06:45] < Netham45> I personally like it
[05:06:50] < Randomist> BrandonW:  Do you know if there's any way to speed up SuSE's package manager 'cause it takes ten minutes to even open it up and install a single package that I already have locally.
[05:06:57] < Netham45> and Nikky, I don't really overclock unless I am going to be playing games
[05:07:09] < Hoodman> I cant get this chip from hitting 80C though
[05:07:10] < mokomull> Randomist: That is why I run Debian derivatives.
[05:07:14] < Netham45> or converting music/movies or something
[05:07:26] <+Nikky> debian is great
[05:08:06] < Hoodman> im just worried to ruin it.....
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[05:08:33] < Netham45> yea
[05:08:48] < Netham45> when I first got my system, I accidentally popped a tube out when it was filled
[05:08:58] < Hoodman> oh man
[05:08:58] < Netham45> thankfully everything was off, and I just had to wait for it to dry
[05:09:02] <+Nikky> that's stupid
[05:09:08] <+Nikky> powerhog
[05:09:11] <+Nikky> earthkiller
[05:09:14] < Netham45> Nikky, so is every comment you have ever made.
[05:09:23] < Netham45> Nikky, I don't even have my TECs on right now
[05:09:31] <+Nikky> earthkiller
[05:09:35] < Hoodman> i just havent found any solutions besides the stock cooler, or a water system
[05:10:57] < Netham45> Hoodman, what socket?
[05:11:11] < Hoodman> ummm....i gotta look
[05:11:26] < mokomull> I wouldn't mind watercooling my desktop, simply because it's quieter IIRC
[05:11:36] < mokomull> damned thing sounds like a jet
[05:12:08] < Hoodman> Netham45 socket 771
[05:12:49] < Netham45> mokomull, yea, right now I have an ultra quiet 120mm fan blowing on my radiator, and a pump running
[05:14:05] < Netham45> Hoodman, http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=40000574&Description=771&name=CPU+Fans+%26+Heatsinks
[05:14:12] < Netham45> idk the quality/if any of them will work better
[05:14:16] < Netham45> but there are 4 hsf's
[05:15:43] < Hoodman> ya, honestly the stock heasinks and fans are really good, there is just so much damn heat when they really work
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[05:28:49] <@efneTI86> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[05:30:34] <+patz2009> <3 #tcpa
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[05:40:41] <@efneTI86> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[05:56:30] <@efneTI86> [Tari__] Remember, remember the 5th of November
[05:58:02] < Barrett> if you feel like an idiot, this is the perfect website to read: http://nothired.com/
[05:58:37] < Spengo> I always send idiots to last measures
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[06:04:02] < Barrett> “I worked in front office in Russia but I can be trusted to work in your rear.”
[06:04:24] < Barrett> http://nothired.com/2008/03/03/fiesta-of-sexy-typos/
[06:04:36] <+Michael_V> I worked in BackOffice in NT but I can be trusted to work in your front office.
[06:04:48] <+Michael_V> oooh, fiesty of sexy typos
[06:04:54] <+Michael_V> that phrase perfectly fits the insane mood that I feel I'm in
[06:05:27] <+Michael_V> eh how boring
[06:05:27] < Barrett> “I also teach an SAT prep course—the students their love me!”
[06:05:32] < Barrett> “I can speak without thinking and right even better.”
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[06:08:11] < Spengo> In soviet russia offices work in you
[06:08:17] < Spengo> !!
[06:11:55] <+Michael_V> doo doo dum doo dit doo dum....ERRRRRR ERRRR EERRRRR (waves digital watch around and points)
[06:12:27] <+nicolas> Michael_V: sounds like a swatch!
[06:12:39] <+Michael_V> my first watch ever was a swatch
[06:12:41] <+Michael_V> but no
[06:12:51] <+Michael_V> Don't mind me...I've been writing too many essays lately
[06:12:54] <+Michael_V> and I have many more
[06:12:57] < mokomull> heya
[06:13:05] <+Nikky> We don't care.
[06:13:06] <+nicolas> and I havea breakfast to take care of!
[06:13:23] < Grue> Nikky fails. Just because.
[06:13:39] <+Michael_V> Nikky: You will once I write the one titled "Nikky and the Homosexual Problem in Today's Society"
[06:13:56] <+Michael_V> (this is my attempt at a colloquial insult if it's not obvious)
[06:14:17] <+Nikky> At least I'm man enough to wear pink
[06:14:32] <+Michael_V> My Latin teacher was man enough to wear pink
[06:14:40] <+Michael_V> a dark pink though
[06:15:10] < Spengo> if I had pink clothing I would wear it
[06:15:33] < Spengo> everything I have is one of those grey/green/beige colors though
[06:15:39] <+Michael_V> I think most men would wear whatever clothing they have handy
[06:15:43] < Spengo> or brown
[06:15:44] < Spengo> I guess
[06:15:50] <+Michael_V> I tend to overwear boring solid color shirts of red, black, gray, and green
[06:15:53] <+Michael_V> of which I have numerous duplicates
[06:15:56] <+Michael_V> because I don't care
[06:16:05] <+Michael_V> I perhaps should try some variation
[06:16:14] < Spengo> I have multicolored t-shirts I suppose
[06:16:17] < Spengo> most of them I got free
[06:16:26] <+Michael_V> every once in a while I wear my Reagan shirt or such
[06:16:43] <+Michael_V> I should probably wear my TI polo
[06:16:55] <+Michael_V> it does no good just sitting in the closet collecting tons of dust
[06:17:28] < Spengo> I always wear brown/beige/green cargo pants, brown leather jacket, and faded brown fedora
[06:17:34] <+Michael_V> fedora!
[06:17:42] <+Michael_V> http://www.jamesbondmm.co.uk/bond-allies/john-moreno.php?id=001
[06:17:45] < Spengo> then usually a brown/green/blue sweatshirt when it's colder
[06:17:47] <+Michael_V> I've always wanted to dress like that guy
[06:17:48] < Spengo> fedoras are awesome
[06:17:55] <+Michael_V> too bad it's way too hot here for that attire
[06:18:08] < Spengo> my hat looks more like indiana jones'
[06:18:12] < Spengo> jones's
[06:18:26] <+Nikky> it does
[06:18:35] <+Michael_V> ah so that's not much of a fedora then
[06:19:08] < Spengo> what
[06:19:12] < Spengo> that's totally the best kind
[06:19:18] < Spengo> large brims ftw
[06:19:21] <+Michael_V> no I mean your hat's not much of a fedora
[06:19:23] <+Michael_V> isn't it?
[06:19:37] <+Michael_V> I'm kind of fuzzy on what defines a fedora and what doesn't
[06:19:41] <+Michael_V> but I thought Indiana Jones wasn't quite a fedora
[06:19:54] < Spengo> it si a fedora
[06:19:56] < Spengo> is*
[06:20:04] < Spengo> just a wide-brimmed one
[06:20:27] < Spengo> the crown of mine is shorter than his though
[06:20:46] < Spengo> his hat is very tall
[06:21:03] < Grue> As long as it's not Fedora Linux *shudder*
[06:21:17] <+Michael_V> hey I like fedora
[06:21:21] < Grue> Eww
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[06:21:28] <+Michael_V> It's running a mythtv system just great
[06:21:39] < Grue> Fedora is liked by people who don't know better >.>
[06:21:46] < Grue> (Well, usually, in my experience)
[06:21:57] <+Michael_V> well it worked very well for its purpose
[06:22:00] < Grue> (No offense to present company intended)
[06:22:31] <+Michael_V> http://www.rei.com/product/734793?vcat=REI_SSHP_MENS_CLOTHING_TOC
[06:22:41] <+Michael_V> I wear something like that, only with the brim not snapped up like that
[06:22:45] < Spengo> actually now that I think of it, mine looks a lot like a brown version of the red hat mascot
[06:22:53] <+Michael_V> and mine's a little larger and heavier
[06:23:07] <+Michael_V> I imagine I'm quite the figure as I dash about campus at three times the walking speed of everyone else
[06:23:22] < Spengo> that's like an australian-looking hat
[06:23:25] <+Michael_V> yes
[06:23:30] <+Michael_V> mine was an australian army hat of sorts
[06:23:32] < Spengo> those are pretty cool too
[06:23:37] <+Michael_V> I have the ability to turn up the brim that way (but I don't)
[06:23:54] < Spengo> I like the green one
[06:24:14] < Spengo> what is the point of putting the brim up on the side like that anyways
[06:24:23] <+Michael_V> If you want to pretend to be Australian I guess
[06:24:28] < Spengo> oh, lol
[06:24:33] <+Michael_V> I actually should look at that hat...I will be going to the store in a few days
[06:24:40] <+Michael_V> and I've been wanting a replacement for mine for a while as mine's getting old
[06:24:49] < Spengo> old hats are best dude
[06:24:49] <+Michael_V> I don't recall seeing that particular one before
[06:24:52] <+Michael_V> it looks rather close to mine
[06:24:56] <+Michael_V> I know but I'd like to stock up on a second
[06:24:57] < Spengo> mine is probably older than me
[06:25:02] <+Michael_V> and I can't find my original one anymore
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[06:25:12] < Spengo> it's so faded that the top looks more green than brown
[06:25:20] <+Michael_V> I like to stock up and hoard things that work well
[06:25:22] <+Michael_V> like shoes
[06:25:25] <+Michael_V> I buy 2 or 3 pairs at a time
[06:25:39] < Spengo> I have... 2 pairs total
[06:25:43] < Spengo> 3 if you count sandals
[06:25:46] <+Michael_V> I mean identical pairs
[06:25:53] <+Michael_V> so when my sneakers wear out, I just break out the next box
[06:25:58] <+Michael_V> identical
[06:25:59] < Spengo> lol
[06:26:25] <+Michael_V> I probably inherited this from my parents
[06:26:30] < tr1p1ea> i was just about to comment on how it looked like an aussie army hat - then i read down a little?
[06:26:32] < tr1p1ea> ?!
[06:26:34] <+Michael_V> I should take a photo of our paper towel and toilet paper shelves
[06:26:50] <+Michael_V> My dad likes to wait for the very very best sales on such non-perishable goods in the stores
[06:26:53] <+Michael_V> then he stocks up en masse
[06:27:02] <+Michael_V> in fact, let me see if I can go get a photo
[06:27:07] <+Michael_V> it will provide much amusement
[06:27:26] < tr1p1ea> and greetings to you (and only you) michael
[06:27:47] <+Michael_V> hello
[06:27:50] <+Michael_V> hmm no, I can't find the camera
[06:27:58] <+Michael_V> it must be somewhere else in the house and everyone is sleepign
[06:27:59] <+Michael_V> *sleeping
[06:28:13] <+Michael_V> anyway, it's a 8 foot long shelf about 18" deep
[06:28:21] <+Michael_V> and filled with toilet paper in bulk packages
[06:28:32] <+Michael_V> hundreds upon hundreds of rolls
[06:28:38] <+Michael_V> it's the most psychotic thing ever :)
[06:28:48] < Spengo> toilet paper collection eh?
[06:28:49] <+Michael_V> and then there's one for paper towels and napkins
[06:28:53] <+Michael_V> well my dad likes a deal
[06:29:06] <+Michael_V> he'll only buy at the absolute cheapest price which means only every few months
[06:29:16] <+Michael_V> but he likes to feel like he has a big hoard I guess
[06:29:21] < Spengo> hmm
[06:29:27] <+Michael_V> remind me in the future to take a photo :)
[06:29:28] < Spengo> I usually get rid of any excess
[06:29:35] < Spengo> I like to be able to carry most everything I own in a couple bags
[06:29:48] < Spengo> my PC is really the only thing extra
[06:31:35] <+Nikky> I have tons of shoes
[06:31:40] <+Michael_V> that's a nice idea although it wouldn't work for me
[06:31:50] <+Michael_V> Nikky: What about heels?
[06:31:54] <+Michael_V> Would you like to buy some heels?
[06:31:57] <+Michael_V> err
[06:32:01] <+Nikky> already have some
[06:32:01] <+Michael_V> That's poorly phrased :)
[06:32:08] <+Michael_V> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=250232250005&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=015
[06:32:12] <+Michael_V> but I'm selling some
[06:32:18] <+Michael_V> which were purchased by me for resale :)
[06:32:21] <+Nikky> I don't want those
[06:32:21] <+Michael_V> so don't get any crazy ideas
[06:32:37] < Spengo> why the hell are you selling girl shoes
[06:32:41] <+Michael_V> I'm finding the profit margins on women's shoes (and men's) to be quite nice
[06:32:49] <+Michael_V> Because they're also very fast and wonderful to ship
[06:32:52] <+Michael_V> No padding, no packaging
[06:32:56] <+Michael_V> You throw them in a box
[06:33:12] <+Michael_V> and in the case of those, I have priority mail shoe boxes that fit precisely over the regular shoebox
[06:33:40] <+Michael_V> I can list, process, and ship shoes in a fraction of the time of a regular item, which more than offsets the lower value of them
[06:33:53] <+Michael_V> but of course I posted that item to secretly plug the electronics goodies
[06:33:57] <+Michael_V> such as the ipaq h1940 I'm selling :)
[06:34:08] <+Michael_V> or the 802.11g routers
[06:34:37] < Spengo> I can't tell if he's joking or not
[06:34:47] <+Michael_V> who?
[06:34:48] <+Michael_V> me?
[06:34:54] <+Michael_V> or nikky?
[06:34:59] <+Michael_V> I think nikky's joking
[06:35:01] <+Michael_V> I would hope so :)
[06:35:39] <+Michael_V> perhaps someone who is a men's 13 (european 47) would like these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=250232242980
[06:35:49] <+Michael_V> now those are masculine boots...they weigh nearly 2 pounds each
[06:36:16] <+Michael_V> and with a name like "Josef Seibel" you can pretend it's "Josef Stalin" 
[06:36:53] <+Michael_V> go goosestepping down the Volga River perhaps
[06:36:55] <+Michael_V> or the Rhine
[06:41:54]  * Spengo steps back slowly and eyes Michael_V warily
[06:42:15] <+Michael_V> heil ze seibel!
[06:42:17] <+Michael_V> No no
[06:42:18] < Spengo> BACK TO THE NETHERWORLD WITH YE, SHOE DEMON!
[06:42:21] <+Michael_V> you're supposed to *bid*
[06:42:27] <+Michael_V> They're very expensive German shoes
[06:42:38] <+Michael_V> You could impress people with them
[06:42:46] <+Michael_V> Both figuratively and literally (if you step on them)
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[06:43:02] < Spengo> I'm only size 11 though
[06:43:08] <+Michael_V> ah
[06:43:14] <+Michael_V> I'm only 10.5 EE
[06:43:20] < Spengo> EE?
[06:43:25] <+Michael_V> wide
[06:43:27] < Spengo> oh
[06:43:31] < Spengo> that's what my little brother wears
[06:43:35] <+Michael_V> That's why I buy only New Balance shoes
[06:43:39] < Spengo> he has fat feet
[06:43:40] <+Michael_V> I like that they come in D, EE, and EEEE
[06:43:46] < Spengo> EEEE? lulz
[06:43:57] <+Michael_V> I don't have fat feet but the EEs are nice and comfortable and not constraining on the sides like normal shoes
[06:44:07] < Spengo> EEs are really lose on me
[06:44:18] <+Michael_V> I can't fit into D comfortably
[06:44:18] < Spengo> my feet are normal width I suppose
[06:44:22] < Spengo> what's D
[06:44:23] <+Michael_V> well mine are wide :)
[06:44:26] < Spengo> extra skinny?
[06:44:26] <+Michael_V> D is normal width
[06:44:29] < Spengo> oh
[06:44:39] < Spengo> what do you get if you have really skinny feet?
[06:45:00] < Spengo> DD?
[06:45:09] <+Michael_V> I don't think they have a shoe for you then
[06:45:26] < Spengo> double Ds, sounds like a good type of boobs
[06:45:30] <+Michael_V> You just go barefoot and if your feet are really that skinny, you can ice skate on them
[06:45:31] < Spengo> :)
[06:45:48] <+Michael_V> Aren't those rather large?
[06:45:56] < Spengo> yes
[06:45:58] <+Michael_V> I wouldn't want to meet any women with those...she'd be large in all regards
[06:46:10] < Spengo> assuming the rest of her was not so large
[06:46:17] <+Michael_V> I don't think it works that way :)
[06:46:21] < Spengo> it does in porn
[06:46:22] <+Michael_V> except for surgery perhaps
[06:46:34] <+Michael_V> porn doesn't count as reality
[06:46:55] <+Nikky> Is there something wrong with me crossdressing?
[06:47:08] <+Michael_V> Nikky: That depends on whether you buy any shoes from me
[06:47:25] <+Nikky> I don't want those fashion trainwrecks.
[06:47:41] < Spengo> Nikky is our resident drag queen
[06:48:07] <+Michael_V> I'll hand write the return address label as "PERVERSE TRANSVESTITE FOOTWEAR INC." in bold letters so your mailman sees
[06:48:30] < Spengo> then he'll just ask his mailman out
[06:48:45] < Spengo> ackbar.jpg
[06:48:56] <+Michael_V> how about and add a digit to the address so it goes to his neighbor first
[06:49:06] < Spengo> it's a traaap :O!
[06:49:56] < Spengo> bbl shower time
[06:50:17] <+Michael_V> no no
[06:50:19] <+Michael_V> it's HAMMER TIME
[06:50:21] <+Michael_V> with TOM DELAY
[06:50:31] <+Michael_V> DUN DUN DUN
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[07:08:56] < Spengo> Michael_V, I've got a fever
[07:09:00] < Spengo> and the only cure is...
[07:09:12] < Spengo> MORE COWBELL!
[07:11:57] < Spengo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hm3E2cGQE4
[07:11:58] < Spengo> lol
[07:14:29] <+Michael_V> you win
[07:14:31] <+Michael_V> I'm scared away
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[07:21:20] <+patz2009> <3 Spengo
[07:21:31] < Spengo> hehe
[07:21:46] < Netham45> http://www.elite-hackers.com/?p=tools
[07:21:51] < Netham45> omg
[07:21:54] < Netham45> LULZ!
[07:24:21] < Spengo> Netham45, looks like a good raiding target
[07:24:41] < Netham45> yea
[07:24:51] < Spengo> hacking with telnet? lmao
[07:25:02] < Spengo> oh man
[07:25:10] < Netham45> apparantly... notepad can be used to code in viruses
[07:25:11] < Spengo> he lists keyboard shortcuts for notepad
[07:25:26] < Netham45> haha
[07:25:28] < Netham45> IP examples
[07:25:36] < Netham45> 84.10.1.5982
[07:25:38] < Spengo> Notepad is not only small, but extremely fast. Using the keyboard you can perform daunting tasks in half a second. 
[07:25:39] < Netham45> 816.83.337.04
[07:25:41] < Spengo> HAAAAHAHAHA
[07:25:44] < Spengo> oh lmao
[07:25:55] < Spengo> that's hilarious
[07:26:03] < Netham45> 17.44.186
[07:26:08] < Netham45> ooh
[07:26:14] < Netham45> ping is an uber hacking tool
[07:26:14] < Spengo> hahahaha
[07:26:21] < Netham45> it's an "IP Stealer"
[07:26:21] < Spengo> so
[07:26:24] < Spengo> is this a joke?
[07:26:26] <+patz2009> why have someone set up a sub7 server when you just as easily have a VNC server?
[07:26:32] < Netham45> Spengo, I don't think so...
[07:26:35] < Spengo> damn
[07:26:39] < Netham45> http://digg.com/security/Learn_how_to_be_an_elite_hacker
[07:26:40] <+nicolas> patz2009: because sub7 is leeter
[07:26:42] < Netham45> it's on digg...
[07:27:21] < Netham45> ooh
[07:27:23] < Netham45> found the FAQ
[07:27:32] < Netham45> "Q: Can you hack into my school and change my grades for me?
[07:27:32] < Netham45> A: No. I had to do it on my own for my failing PE grade, and it was really, really hard. Plus, I don't want to run the risk of getting caught. Read through my site, and these answers will come to you.
[07:27:44] < Netham45> Q: Where do you live? / What's your AIM? / Etc...
[07:27:44] < Netham45> A: The feds are always on the prowl for well-known hackers like me. You think I would give that information about myself away like that? If you need to contact me, do it via e-mail here.
[07:27:58] <+patz2009> rofl
[07:28:06] < Spengo> aagghhh
[07:28:08] <+patz2009> him and his 1337 notepad skills
[07:28:15] < Spengo> that does it, he must be taken down
[07:28:24] < Netham45> Q: What is this Linux/UNIX thing all about?
[07:28:24] < Netham45> A: There is a reason that I don't cover Linux or UNIX in my writings. That being because NOBODY USES IT! Linux and Unix came along after Apple, which followed Windows. I have reason to believe that UNIX and Linux stole code from these two great OS's to produce what they have now -- which isn't much. Most of the time running Linux and UNIX is spent in what they call a shell, like DOS. This makes a hacker's job extremely boring and dif
[07:28:24] < Netham45> ficult. Stick to the original pros, Microsoft and Apple know what they are doing.
[07:28:28]  * Spengo wanders off to set up a raid thread
[07:28:36] < Spengo> wait
[07:28:38] < Spengo> what
[07:29:04] <+patz2009> O_o
[07:30:05] <+patz2009> hay guise hack me http://69.247.152.128:5800
[07:34:11] < Netham45> fuck
[07:34:12] < Netham45> java
[07:34:15] < Netham45> I'm melting!
[07:38:51] <+patz2009> BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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[08:51:43] <+Nikky> Gee
[08:51:56] <+patz2009> ?
[08:51:56] <+Nikky> He isn't coming back
[08:52:00] <+Nikky> That's too bad
[08:52:02] <+Nikky> :)
[08:52:13] <+patz2009> Aw, dang.
[08:52:38] <+Nikky> Such a shame
[09:06:27]  * al_zzzzzz thinks that article is an obvious troll
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[09:06:57]  * al_b says that from now on, he will be speaking exclusivly in third person
[09:08:10]  * al_b hopes that this will not get too annoying
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[12:14:08] <@E-J> http://www.compsci.ca/blog/if-a-programming-language-was-a-boat w?
[12:14:14] <@E-J> -w?
[12:18:30] < BrandonW> That was a cheap shot at PHP.
[12:20:23] <@E-J> BrandonW: but you agree?
[12:20:33] < BrandonW> Yes. :(
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[12:34:39] < Milyardo> Ouch...
[12:34:55] < Milyardo> I would inverse the comments about PHP and Perl
[12:35:00] < Milyardo> Or maybe
[12:35:24] < Milyardo> make PHP Perl, then make Python as PHP, as For Perl it would be...
[12:36:00] < Milyardo> An Aircraft Carrier
[12:36:12] < Milyardo> The Mothership for all other programming laguages
[12:37:31] <@E-J> Milyardo: but coding it is pita
[12:40:26] < boxknife> Have you guys ever seen that z80 assembler written in Perl?
[12:40:54] < boxknife> I tried to use it to assemble my calculator source, but I couldn't get it to work. :(
[12:42:50]  * al_bbl wonders why you don't use the same assembler that everyone else uses
[12:44:04] < boxknife> I normally use TASM; I was just trying to use this one for a kick.
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[12:47:55] <@efneTI86> [Leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
[12:56:54] < BrandonW> See, that's healthy.
[12:57:02] < BrandonW> But using a Java one, an oncalc one, or other...is just sily.
[12:57:05] < BrandonW> silly.*
[12:57:07] < BrandonW> Which some people do.
[12:57:25] < boxknife> lol
[13:00:43] < boxknife> BrandonW: I figured out how to move appvars from my calculator to my computer, but I'm at an impasse. I can't navigate to the directory that contains the .8xv file or whatever because it crashes any program that tries, including windows explorer.
[13:01:20] < Leofox> that's odd
[13:01:37] < BrandonW> That's pretty odd. Command line?
[13:01:40] < boxknife> The only thing I can do is use a command prompt and DEBUG to look at it, lol
[13:01:42] < boxknife> Yeah
[13:01:57] < BrandonW> If you move it out of there to another directory, does that one become inaccessible, too?
[13:02:03] < boxknife> Yup.
[13:02:22] < BrandonW> That's...very strange.
[13:02:23] < boxknife> I copied it to another directory, and I couldn't open that directory without Windows crashing either
[13:02:30] < BrandonW> XP?
[13:02:34] < boxknife> Vista, lol
[13:02:41] < BrandonW> There's your first mistake. :)
[13:03:03] < boxknife> I was thinking maybe because there was no EOF thing, but I added one and still happens.
[13:03:05] < boxknife> lol
[13:03:11] < BrandonW> I'm one of those people that always uses the latest and greatest, and I dual boot XP and Vista, but...when I reformat, Vista's going away.
[13:03:47] < Milyardo>   I dual boot Vista, and Ubuntu
[13:04:02] < Milyardo> I'm not really crazy about either
[13:04:11] < Milyardo> I just have to support both OSes
[13:04:17] < Milyardo> I perfer Ubuntu still
[13:04:35] < Milyardo> and Vista, all I've done in it so far is play CoD4
[13:04:38] < Milyardo> alot
[13:04:44] < Milyardo> And Company of Heores
[13:04:49] < Milyardo> >.>
[13:04:52] < Milyardo> But Anyways
[13:05:05] < Milyardo> I'd install Gentoo over Ubuntu If I had the choice
[13:05:42] < Milyardo> well Maybe not...
[13:05:56] < Milyardo> I don't think I really want Gentoo on my Laptop
[13:06:01] < Milyardo> but I do want it on my server
[13:06:28] < Milyardo> but I have to use Ubuntu to support all the nubs who think they're trendy by installing ubuntu server
[13:06:29] < Leofox> my server runs win2k server ed.
[13:06:35] < BrandonW> boxknife: have you tried renaming the extension just to see if it stops crashing?
[13:06:37] < Leofox> my desktop dual boots xp home and pro
[13:06:49] < Leofox> my laptop dual boots vista business and fedora 8
[13:06:54] < boxknife> BrandonW: How do I do that in the command prompt?
[13:07:12] < BrandonW> rename oldname.8xv newname.whatever
[13:07:26] < Milyardo> Fedora Always seems to Enterprise-y for a laptop to me
[13:09:17] < boxknife> Huh, it doesn't crash anymore.
[13:09:58] < BrandonW> Now change it back to 8XV or variations of it.
[13:10:37] < boxknife> Crashes
[13:10:41] < BrandonW> Is this an appvar you created?
[13:10:50] < boxknife> Yeah. I create it on the calculator
[13:10:57] < BrandonW> Send it to me. Now I'm curious.
[13:11:56] < Leofox> Milyardo: it was the only thing that would even boot
[13:12:11] < Leofox> I got Arch into the vista bootloader but it went all kernel panic on me
[13:13:06] < Milyardo> Thats strange
[13:13:30] < Leofox> strange things happen sometimes on these laptops
[13:16:21] < Leofox> often the hardware is poorly supported
[13:18:16] < Milyardo> What kind of laptop is it?
[13:25:59] < Leofox> Dell inspiron 6400
[13:26:24] < Milyardo> I've always wondered whats the point to installing ubuntu server, does anyone use it? Why not just install debian?
[13:27:13] < Milyardo> Dell Laptops tend to be pretty well supported driver-wise in most Linux distros
[13:28:29] < Leofox> fedora works fine
[13:28:46] < Leofox> apart from everything window-managery being borked to tears
[13:29:02] < Leofox> KDE: fails
[13:29:07] < Leofox> Compiz: fails
[13:29:11] < Leofox> Compiz-fusion: fails
[13:29:16] < Leofox> Gnome: fails
[13:29:30] < Milyardo> lolz X.Org?
[13:29:32] < Leofox> blackbox: works but i'm not going to set that beast up on linux
[13:29:51] < Leofox> I'm not using anything that ends in Org thank you scientologist
[13:29:55] < Milyardo> lol
[13:31:19] < Milyardo> I'm sure when you posted on the forums too they were like "ch3k yUr xorg.c0nf n00b"
[13:33:33] < Leofox> i'm sure they would
[13:33:42] < Leofox> Linux gurus just love insulting me
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[16:22:50] <+Sir_Lewk> disregard that, I suck cocks
[16:23:07] <+Sir_Lewk> err, *figured it out
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[16:46:19] < Milyardo> !topic
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[16:46:26] < Milyardo> o.o
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[16:46:44] < Milyardo> oops
[16:46:53] < Milyardo> what was the topic before?
[16:47:28] < Milyardo> !topic Milyardo is a dumbass who resets topics
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[16:58:32] <@efneTI86> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[17:06:36] <@efneTI86> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[17:06:48] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!!
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[17:10:55] <+TD-Linux> !t Welcome to #TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org/ | April Fools LuLz are concluded | The Nspire is still broken though!
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[17:21:12] <@efneTI86> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[17:36:06] <@efneTI86> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[17:52:38] <+Sir_Lewk> !t Welcome to #TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org/ | We hate the Nspire!
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[17:52:53] <+Sir_Lewk> well past April 1st.
[17:53:42] <+Sir_Lewk> also, Nspires are freaking huge! :O  saw one in radioshack the other day
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[17:57:30] <+TD-Linux> bigger than the TI-92?
[17:58:53] < Leofox> nSpires arent really that interesting if you can;t program for them
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[18:09:03] <@efneTI86> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[18:26:31] < boxknife> Does anyone know what each of the wires in a TI serial link cable does?
[18:27:24] < boxknife> I'm trying to fix one up to headphones
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[18:29:01] <@efneTI86> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[18:29:12] < boxknife> Haha. Crossing them freezes my calculator, so I guess one must be for output, the other for input. I'm not sure what the third wire does.
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[18:31:26] < Leofox> ground
[18:31:35] < boxknife> The unsheathed wire is ground?
[18:31:54] < Leofox> there are 2 signal wires and a ground one
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[18:32:04] < boxknife> Ah
[18:32:27] < Leofox> if you interconnect them the calculator thinks something is trying to send data over so it tries to receive it
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[18:33:08] < boxknife> I see. Do you know how I'd connect them to a speaker or headset wire?
[18:33:25] < Leofox> yeah
[18:33:36] < Leofox> you go to radioshack and buy a 2.5mm to 3.5mm converter
[18:33:44] < boxknife> rofl
[18:33:52] < boxknife> The radioshack near my house closed down. :(
[18:34:31] < boxknife> There isn't a way to solder it to headphone wires?
[18:34:53] < Leofox> the closest radio shack for me is.. well i dont know they dont have them in europe
[18:35:20] < Leofox> boxknife: sure, it's the same sort of wire, just a smaller connection
[18:35:38] < Leofox> but youd have to sacrifice a perfectly good pair of headphones, and a link cable
[18:35:49] < boxknife> Well, I've got a spare of both
[18:36:02] < boxknife> I already cut them open
[18:36:28] < boxknife> There's a blue and a red wire in the headphone's
[18:36:36] < boxknife> along with regular copper in each
[18:37:41] < Leofox> what colours do the calc ones have?
[18:37:47] < boxknife> Red and white
[18:37:56] < Leofox> well i'd say red goes with red
[18:38:17] < boxknife> Ah, I see.
[18:38:19] < Leofox> but i'm not sure
[18:38:27] < boxknife> So the unsheathed ones in the headphones are probably ground, too?
[18:38:30] < Leofox> in electronics, same coloured wires usually do the same thing
[18:38:33] < Leofox> yeah
[18:38:41] < boxknife> What is ground, exactly? Is that electricity?
[18:39:03] < Leofox> I think the signal has to make an electric loop
[18:39:16] < boxknife> Ahh
[18:39:23] < Leofox> so the current goes through either one of the signal wires and back through the ground
[18:39:34] < Leofox> That would make sense
[18:40:11] < boxknife> I'll go try that
[18:43:52] < Milyardo> A ground is used to protect an electircal system from excessive damage
[18:44:11] < Milyardo> Grounds are not nesseasry to complete circuits
[18:44:33] < Milyardo> But I wouldn't advisise going without one
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[18:44:42] <@efneTI86> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
[18:44:50] < Milyardo> thats how people get elektrokuted
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[18:56:24] <+Nikky> whores
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[19:06:40] < boxknife> Haha! It works.
[19:07:41] < boxknife> Soldered the white cable to the red cable and the two ground cables together
[19:09:03] <+TD-Linux> !qadd <Leofox> in electronics, same coloured wires usually do the same thing
[19:09:04] <@efneTI86> Quote 1244 added
[19:10:56] < Leofox> how is that a quote?
[19:11:18] <+TD-Linux> I find it funny
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[19:13:43] < boxknife> Well, it's because I only used one headphone.
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[19:13:55] < boxknife> err, one earbud.
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[19:23:40] < boxknife> I'm going to connect the other half of the cable to a jack so I can plug it into my guitar amp.
[19:24:17] < boxknife> Wonder what an calculator with electric guitar distortion would sound like
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[19:29:44] < jtiner> anyone alive up in here
[19:31:09] < jtiner> i got a few calculator questions if anyone can field them
[19:31:45] < jtiner> my old hp48g calculator display took a dump on me recently and i've been thinking about getting an hp50g or a TI, but i'm not very famaliar with TI calcs
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[19:32:23] <@efneTI86> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
[19:32:24] < chronomex> okay
[19:32:31] < chronomex> Tari_: gtfo
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[19:33:41] < chronomex> jtiner: I may be able to help
[19:33:49] < jtiner> word
[19:34:13] < jtiner> i want something that will last me if i ever decide to go back to college again
[19:34:22] < jtiner> but the TI calcs are different animals to me
[19:34:34] < jtiner> i was browsing them on newegg
[19:34:54] < chronomex> right
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[19:36:08] <@efneTI86> [Tyler2] I no longer speak fluent dialup.
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[19:36:24] < chronomex> you going to ask a question?
[19:36:47] < jtiner> which one do you use?
[19:37:08] < jtiner> i guess the ti92 is like the top of the line
[19:37:15] < jtiner> short of the voyager series, is that right
[19:37:20] < chronomex> uh
[19:37:28] < chronomex> 92 is big and heavy
[19:37:31] < chronomex> not made anymore
[19:37:55] < boxknife> You probably don't want the 92 if you're using it for school because they usually won't allow it on tests.
[19:38:25] < chronomex> 68k calcs (89, 89Ti, v200, 92, etc) are all really the same except for the case and stuff that most users don't care about
[19:38:25] < jtiner> what about the nspire series? why the hate on that one
[19:39:11] < boxknife> The 89 is pretty advanced and it's got a computer algebra system and all that, but it's generally a little more difficult to use than the 83+/84+ calculators.
[19:40:01] < chronomex> it also costs ~$30 more
[19:40:23] < jtiner> does it have features like an equation writer
[19:40:42] < chronomex> no, but there is a free eqw program
[19:40:45] < jtiner> my hp had some features where you could enter a problem just as it appears in a book and viola, it would solve it for you
[19:40:49] < chronomex> right
[19:41:04] < chronomex> 89 has symbolic manipulation, including algebra solve()
[19:41:05] < jtiner> and that was right out of the box
[19:41:18] < chronomex> it doesn't have eqw out-of-box
[19:41:40] < jtiner> but that is something that i could download or get from somewhere right
[19:41:47] < chronomex> but it's so universally awesome that most people who know about it have it
[19:41:50] < chronomex> you can get it online
[19:41:58] < chronomex> yes
[19:42:17] < jtiner> i'm thinking about getting this one if i decide to stick with hp: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16844104010
[19:42:38] < chronomex> ok
[19:42:45] < chronomex> I haven't any real experience with the 50g
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[19:42:56] < chronomex> holy crap that's cheap
[19:43:38] < jtiner> yeah
[19:43:59] < jtiner> and academic institutions are usually unfamaliar with them so they don't give you crap when you use them on tests and such
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[19:46:07] <@efneTI86> [Tari__] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[19:47:04] < chronomex> right
[19:47:15] < chronomex> I used a sliderule on my SAT
[19:47:24] < jtiner> haha
[19:47:35] < jtiner> here's a q for you; do the Ti calcs use RPL
[19:47:52] < jtiner> like can you have a stack and perform operations on the stack with RPL
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[19:48:53] < chronomex> jtiner: they do internally, but you can't get at it
[19:49:01] < chronomex> there's a program that does though
[19:49:17] < chronomex> it doesn't work on the 89Ti cos the author fell off the face of the earth about 6 years ago
[19:49:31] < chronomex> only oldschool 89s and 92s
[19:50:07] < chronomex> 's pretty bitchin' when it works though
[19:50:24] < jtiner> aww fudge
[19:50:33] < jtiner> how about the resolution on the 89
[19:50:39] < jtiner> pleasing to the eyeballs?
[19:51:16] < chronomex> quite
[19:51:24] < chronomex> 160x100
[19:51:30] < chronomex> in about 2.5x2 inches
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[19:51:36] < chronomex> so like 50 dpi
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[19:51:52] < chronomex> they're nice dark black pixels, and square
[19:53:26] < jtiner> cool, that is better than the hp
[19:53:31] < chronomex> oh?
[19:53:39] < jtiner> i would seriously miss rpl though
[19:53:41] < chronomex> also it's not behind a lame screen protector thing
[19:54:14] < chronomex> my 49G has such an accumulation of dust that it's unusable
[19:54:25] < jtiner> wanna get rid of it
[19:54:27] < jtiner> ???
[19:54:35] < chronomex> what do you mean?
[19:54:50] < jtiner> i mean do you want to sell it / trade it / give it away
[19:54:53] < chronomex> you want to buy my 49G, the agreed total suckiest HP calc ever?
[19:55:18] < jtiner> i misread...thought it said 48g
[19:55:49] < chronomex> I thought so
[19:55:50] < jtiner> but yeah, if you want to get rid of that too
[19:55:57] < chronomex> mhm ... no
[19:56:00] < chronomex> I sort of hoard calcs
[19:56:01] < jtiner> i could probably take the display out and put it on my 48g
[19:56:08] < chronomex> that works?
[19:56:25] < jtiner> sure...with a little finesse i don't see why it wouldnt
[19:56:33] < chronomex> haha--> http://bash.org/?854899
[19:57:18] < jtiner> lol
[19:57:40] <+DSP_Lord> XD
[19:57:58] < jtiner> i can't take a cop on a bicycle seriously
[19:58:22] < jtiner> might as well give him a nerf gun
[20:00:01] < boxknife> Jeez, connecting the TI to my amp makes it really loud
[20:00:35] < boxknife> Leofox: What might I add between the two wires to weaken the signal?
[20:00:42] < boxknife> I think it almost blew my amp.
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[20:00:59] < Leofox> oh?
[20:01:06] < Leofox> that's odd
[20:01:23] < Leofox> it shouldnt
[20:01:30] < boxknife> It played the notes, but it was really, really freaking loud.
[20:01:37] < Leofox> turn down your amp
[20:01:53] < chronomex> the calc's output is I think 5V swung full-scale
[20:02:14] < chronomex> maybe 6, I think it's actually the battery supply
[20:02:39] < boxknife> My amp can be at almost 0 volume, but it still plays the same
[20:03:39] < jtiner> well thanks for fielding my curiosities guys
[20:03:54] < jtiner> there is a weedwhacker and a lawn calling my name now though
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[20:35:20] < Milyardo> What is Love?
[20:35:22] < Milyardo> :d\-<
[20:35:25] < Milyardo> :D/-<
[20:35:35]  * Randomist hides.
[20:36:15] < Leofox> baby dont hurt me
[20:36:23] < Leofox> seriously, don't
[20:36:28] < Leofox> i still have the bruises from last time
[20:36:35] < boxknife> Chronomex: How do I weaken the calculator's output?
[20:36:49] < boxknife> Can I put something between the two wires?
[20:37:17] < chronomex> resistor maybe
[20:37:44] < boxknife> How big a resistor, just eyeballed
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[20:38:13] < spengolo> new dune movie
[20:38:28] < spengolo> think it will be decent or suck just like the other ones
[20:38:29] <+Tari_> \o/
[20:38:43] < spengolo> 'cause the old dune movies are fail
[20:39:17] < boxknife> I thought the last two Dune books by Herbert were fail
[20:39:26] < Milyardo> dune != phail
[20:39:39] < Milyardo> dune < phail
[20:40:01] < spengolo> the first dune book is awesome
[20:40:04] < Milyardo> dune < 3p1c phail
[20:40:27] < spengolo> !k Milyardo 
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[20:41:00] < spengolo> blasphemy and using l33tsp34k is beyond fail
[20:41:07] < spengolo> you sir, fail it
[20:41:31] < Milyardo> 101
[20:42:05] < boxknife> I think after Duncan Idaho comes back alive for like the five millionth time, Frank Herbert was just experiencing his adolescent fantasies through him
[20:42:40] < spengolo> forget the rest of the dune books
[20:42:44] < spengolo> nobody cares about them
[20:42:56] < spengolo> the first one is awesome and probably should have stayed the only one
[20:43:00] < boxknife> Yeah.
[20:43:16] < Milyardo> Agreed
[20:43:16] <+Tari_> that's the only one I read
[20:43:26] < Milyardo> As it should stay that wat
[20:43:29] < Milyardo> *way
[20:44:22] < boxknife> Basically, after the first books, Duncan Idaho has sex with every woman in the story
[20:44:26] < boxknife> Err, first book
[20:44:46] < boxknife> Pretty ridiculous
[20:45:01] < spengolo> yeah he only had two women in the first one
[20:45:07] < spengolo> heh
[20:45:45] < spengolo> bbl
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[21:04:08] <+Tyler2> Hmm, Vista SP1 finally recognizes my full 4GB of ram now...
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[21:08:53] <+Nikky> !seen netham45
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[21:08:58] <+Nikky> :)
[21:09:09] < Randomist> lol
[21:17:55] < Spengo> dadaa
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[21:24:18] <@efneTI86> [DarkAuron] We called it Sin.
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[22:06:47] < Spengo> CAPTAIN AMERICA! I command you to WANK
[22:12:21] < Grue> ...perv...
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[22:14:49] < Spengo> Grue, http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/7599/wankposterpj2.jpg
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[22:18:06] < Spengo> zyxwvutsrqponmlkjihgfedcba
[22:18:16] <+patz2009> DSFAREG
[22:18:20] < Grue> lol
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[22:31:10] <@efneTI86> [Netham45] netham45 netham45 netham45 nethaERROR STACK OVERFLOW
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[22:32:30] <@efneTI86> [Tari__] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[22:34:09] < Barrett> it came!
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[22:34:41] <+Tari> :(
[22:34:48] <+Tari> this machine I was working busted a cap
[22:34:50] < Barrett> the thinkpad X300 is the best notebook computer that exists
[22:34:55] <+Tari> working on, that is
[22:36:10] <+Tari> it's the best machine I have around and the only one that seems to handle newer PCI devices
[22:36:23] <+Tari> ie the only one I can toss a wireless card in
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[22:39:46] <@efneTI86> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[22:40:06] < Netham45> you might want to ditch wireless
[22:43:38] <+Tari_> pity that's not the wireless
[22:43:48] <+Tari_> that's jus the connection
[22:49:49] < Netham45> dialup?
[22:50:13] <+Tari_> no
[22:50:23] <+Tari_> but all the internet service around here is made of suck
[22:50:43] <+Tari_> except the cable, which is 4x as expensive
[22:50:54] < Netham45> how much is 4x?
[22:51:12] <+Tari_> ~$50/mo
[22:52:39] < Leofox> 10€/mo for 100/100 ftw
[22:52:47] < Leofox> that's about 15$/mo
[22:52:55] <+Tari_> :(
[22:52:59] < Netham45> $50 a mo for cable isn't that much
[22:53:20] <+Tari_> mayhap, but my parents probably wouldn't pay for it
[22:53:22] < Netham45> my internet bill is ~40mo
[22:54:58] < i_c-Y> Barrett: you got a X300?!?!
[23:00:05] < V200> i_c-Y: yes
[23:00:19] < i_c-Y> you have way too much spare cash.
[23:00:23] < V200> I know...
[23:00:25] < V200> it's kind of sad
[23:01:08] < V200> but yes, this thing is awesome
[23:01:58] < V200> you should get one
[23:02:14] < i_c-Y> have an R61 and not that much cash.
[23:02:38] < V200> just build some websites
[23:02:41] < V200> free cash
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[23:03:47] <@efneTI86> [Tari__] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[23:04:00] <+Tari__> ...
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[23:04:59] < aadster> Hey
[23:04:59] < tifreak> 'lo
[23:05:07] < aadster> Is BrandonW around?
[23:05:17] <+Nikky> I don't believe so
[23:05:21] < V200> I wouldn't mind if they took out the red stick thing and its corresponding mouse buttons
[23:05:24] < i_c-Y> hai Nikky 
[23:05:28] < V200> and replaced them with a larger pad
[23:05:29] < aadster> Do any of you program html/php, etc
[23:05:40] < V200> pretty much all of us do
[23:05:52] < aadster> Well for my school project I chose to make my own online email system
[23:06:00] < aadster> sortof a cheap-ripoff of gmail
[23:06:02] < tifreak> yay for a new motherboard and CPU :)
[23:06:14] < aadster> I just want something functional, that has a username/pass login (doesnt have to be secure)
[23:06:21] < aadster> and the ability to send/recieve and store messages
[23:06:37] < aadster> So, can any of you help me? I'm using Dreamweaver CS3
[23:06:46] < i_c-Y> by that i think you mean you want to make something like squirrelmail
[23:06:59] < aadster> yes
[23:07:03] < aadster> sort-a
[23:07:07] < aadster> but it doesnt have to be complicated!
[23:07:10] <+Nikky> hmm, I don't think dreamweaver is the perfect thing for that
[23:07:10] < tifreak> lol dreamweaver
[23:07:14] < aadster> just something very very very simple and functional
[23:07:28] < aadster> well
[23:07:32] < aadster> what program would you suggest?
[23:07:32] < i_c-Y> first off
[23:07:35] < V200> how much time do you have to make this?
[23:07:37] < i_c-Y> thow out Dreamweaver
[23:07:39] < tifreak> notepad would be a better tool, I think ;)
[23:07:39] < i_c-Y> vim
[23:07:43] < i_c-Y> vim is superior
[23:07:44] < aadster> well
[23:07:47] < i_c-Y> though i guess you're not
[23:07:50] <@E-J> vi ftw!
[23:07:50] < aadster> idk about the time
[23:07:53] < aadster> time doesnt matter
[23:07:54] < i_c-Y> so not vim for you.
[23:08:16] < aadster> What would be the easiest way of going about this?
[23:08:24] < i_c-Y> there are plenty of tutorials for writing a login thats shitty on google
[23:08:26] < i_c-Y> jsut google for php login
[23:08:29] < V200> with the knowledge that you have demonstrated that you don't currently have, this will take you a good year or so
[23:08:46] < i_c-Y> and go on www.php.net/mail probably
[23:08:58] < aadster> well there is a really smart guy i sit beside in class and he knows a lot of that stuff
[23:09:11] < i_c-Y> probably doesn't even know about having a mail server.
[23:09:41] < aadster> this doesnt have to be fancyt
[23:09:45] < aadster> fancy
[23:09:50] < tifreak> aadster: your best bet would be to go to the library and request some beginner's books on PHP programming
[23:09:54] < aadster> ok
[23:10:02] < aadster> so you guys think i should go all-PHP?
[23:10:03] < i_c-Y> how the hell do you expect to send mail without a mail server?
[23:10:10] < i_c-Y> other than writing your own
[23:10:16] < i_c-Y> in which case youd have a damn mail server.
[23:10:16] <@E-J> http://graphjam.com/
[23:10:27] < i_c-Y> and you wouldnt do the mail server in php 
[23:10:28] < V200> have you ever used mysql or some other type of database?
[23:10:39] < aadster> yes
[23:10:39] < i_c-Y> you dont need sql to do this
[23:10:47] < i_c-Y> you need to know how to use the mail functions in php
[23:10:51] < i_c-Y> and have a mail server
[23:10:53] < i_c-Y> and not be an idiot
[23:10:59] < aadster> ...
[23:11:04] < i_c-Y> the last 3 might be an issue for him.
[23:11:09] < i_c-Y> :)
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[23:11:41] < V200> well, that depends on what he's doing... he just said that it would be similar to an e-mail service
[23:11:53] < V200> it could just be a messaging service
[23:12:16] < i_c-Y> nevermind if you went on php.net and looked at the Mail page and the IMAP/POP3/NNTP pages
[23:12:26] < tifreak> on an unrelated note: downloading 89MB of updates on Dialup sucks hardcore..
[23:12:28] < i_c-Y> youd have a good enough idea if you knew some php
[23:13:12] < i_c-Y> of course if you fit into the latter two conditions, you probably would fail anyway.
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[23:13:47] < i_c-Y> and judging by his consideration of dreamweaver, he probably fails ot meet the latter conditions
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[23:13:57] < i_c-Y> and 2 lines above i meant fail to fit into, not fit into.
[23:14:08] < aadster> forget i asked, icy
[23:14:36] < i_c-Y> a simple google search could have answered all your questions.
[23:15:04] < aadster> well I would prefer asking someone live if I have questions
[23:15:49] < i_c-Y> or , you didnt know php.net existed and probably will not succeed in this project for a fair amount of time.
[23:15:50] < V200> aadster: will your thing accept from and send to real e-mail addresses?
[23:15:52] < aadster> but thanks for being a substitute google for me, complete with the discouraging comments.
[23:16:07] < aadster> V200 - I'd sure like for that to happen
[23:16:14] < i_c-Y> instead of the 20 or 30 minutes for someone who actually saw the php.net pages.
[23:16:51]  * tifreak goes to reheat some pizza
[23:17:19] <+Merthsoft> i_c-Y: quit being a bitch
[23:17:27] < i_c-Y> suck it , Merthsoft 
[23:17:42] <+Nikky> shut up i_c-Y 
[23:17:57] < V200> I think what i_c-Y is trying to convey is that aadster chose a project that might be a bit too much for him
[23:18:18] < V200> I wouldn't say that it would be impossible for him, but I wouldn't be surprised if it takes him months to finish this
[23:18:27] < aadster> I know I don't know much now...but I want to learn how to do it.
[23:18:33] < aadster> So, I asked for advice on where to start.
[23:18:43] < i_c-Y> and we gave it to you... somewhere.
[23:19:00] < V200> ok, so as a learning experience, go right ahead.... start with the login stuff
[23:19:33] < i_c-Y> and if you have no idea, google it. there are plenty of explanations to write a bunch of shitty login scripts.
[23:19:50] < i_c-Y> maybe... just maybe... you could thread em together to get something halfway decent.
[23:20:02] < aadster> I think i found a good one
[23:20:02] < aadster> http://www.phpeasystep.com/workshopview.php?id=6
[23:20:57] < i_c-Y> i suppose ive seen worse.
[23:24:52] <+ports> hrm :)
[23:25:01] <+ports> i like it when you take a dump so big your belt goes down a size
[23:25:20] < i_c-Y> aadster: do you have a mail server?
[23:25:41] < aadster> nope.
[23:25:45] < i_c-Y> ports: you're full of shit 
[23:25:47] < aadster> hey, on that tutorial
[23:25:56] < aadster> when it says create a table
[23:25:59] < aadster> "members"
[23:26:06] < aadster> and then I have 5 fields, right?
[23:26:12] < aadster> so when it says 'id'
[23:26:16] < aadster> when i type that into phpMyAdmin
[23:26:21] < i_c-Y> well then... you might want to acquire said mail server in order to continue after copying the code from that tutorial which is probably what you're inevitably going to do
[23:26:21] < aadster> do i need to include the ''s?
[23:26:35] < aadster> or just put in id
[23:26:39] < V200> just id
[23:26:39] < i_c-Y> what do you think?
[23:26:44] <+ports> FUCK YAW!!
[23:26:49] <+ports> DISTURBED WON THE MARCH MUSIC MAYHEM!
[23:27:01] <+ports> http://www.kpnt.com/Features/march-mayhem.aspx
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[23:27:29] < aadster> idk thats why i asked
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[23:29:09] <+tifreak> So.. what is up with the topic? Why do we hate the Nspire??
[23:29:35] < i_c-Y> cause its in the league with satan
[23:29:57] <+tifreak> lol
[23:31:06] <+tifreak> Well, suppose I will go back to workin on pokemon purple while I (painfully) wait for this download to end...
[23:31:18] < Ox40> Pokemonn?
[23:31:23] < Ox40> s/nn/n/
[23:31:38] <+tifreak> yes
[23:31:51] < Ox40> How old are you? Not being mean... just a question.
[23:32:15] <+tifreak> 24
[23:32:24] <+tifreak> it is just something for fun :)
[23:32:37] <+tifreak> See if it can be done in 83+ basic
[23:32:58] < Ox40> Oh reallllly...
[23:33:07] < Ox40> I thought you were just playing it on a GameBoy or something
[23:33:33] <+tifreak> nah.. :P
[23:33:38] <+tifreak> I have them on gameboy and such
[23:33:56] <+tifreak> and emulator for the system (makes it easier to steal sprites ;))
[23:34:57] < aadster> well i have my login script up and running
[23:35:02] < aadster> step one :)
[23:35:19] < Ox40> aadster: for what?
[23:35:42] < aadster> well I'm working on a cheap email project
[23:35:57] < aadster> nothing complex, just simple - non-secure, cheap send/recieve/store email concept
[23:36:08] < i_c-Y> without a mail server to back him up.
[23:36:22] < Ox40> like http://dodgeit.com ?
[23:37:00] < aadster> hmm
[23:37:08] < aadster> i'd like for it to sen
[23:37:09] < aadster> send
[23:38:04] < Ox40> I know of one... forgot the name
[23:38:33] <+tifreak> 11.70MB of 52.20MB downloaded.. >.< This is gonna take a long darned time.. :/
[23:39:24] < i_c-Y> tifreak: maybe go to your local library, download, put on flash drive, install?
[23:39:31] < i_c-Y> or steal wifi?
[23:39:44] <+tifreak> Can't -.-
[23:39:51] <+tifreak> MS update :/
[23:40:00] < i_c-Y> does your library have wifi?
[23:40:07] <+tifreak> nothing within half a mile to hear that has fast enough connections
[23:40:21] < i_c-Y> dont you have a car?
[23:40:25] <+tifreak> this is for a desktop
[23:40:27] < i_c-Y> or walk, you'll get there fast enough.
[23:40:28] < i_c-Y> oh.
[23:40:31] < i_c-Y> word.
[23:41:09] <+tifreak> only access I have to highspeed for this machine is at a friend's house, who is currently teaching a class at a college, so that is a no go for the present time...
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[23:41:34] <+tifreak> and of course I have a car, and a truck, and a motorcycle ;)
[23:42:04] < i_c-Y> yet you still have dialup.
[23:42:16] < i_c-Y> even glk doesnt use dialup anymore.
[23:42:42] < i_c-Y> and benryves doesnt use dialup anymore
[23:42:42] <+tifreak> sadly, the only way to get any higher speed is to get a satellite
[23:42:53] <+tifreak> system *
[23:43:03] <+tifreak> problem is, they want an ungodly amount of money just for setup fees
[23:43:11] < glk> I  evovled to use tin can and string
[23:43:26] < i_c-Y> where do you live, tifreak ?
[23:43:41] <+tifreak> and any time it even hints at raining, the satelite loses signal -.-
[23:43:41] < glk> I live in Tulsa OK
[23:43:45] <+tifreak> Indiana
[23:43:48] < aadster> Kansas
[23:43:52] < i_c-Y> oh. wow.
[23:43:57] <+tifreak> 5 miles out of town
[23:44:03] < aadster> where do you reside icy?
[23:44:04] < i_c-Y> i was expecting like "a bit outside of cincinnati"
[23:44:05] < aadster> hell?
[23:44:16] <+tifreak> and roughly 1 mile away from the comcast line
[23:44:34] <+tifreak> oh, because of my IP info?
[23:44:36] < i_c-Y> yep.
[23:44:47] < i_c-Y> aadster: New York City. 
[23:45:01] <+tifreak> yeah, not sure wtf is up with that
[23:45:15] <+tifreak> but I am almost dead center between Indianapolis and Loisville :)
[23:46:22] < aadster> well icy i did get my login script up
[23:46:29] < aadster> is there a way I can use another mail server?
[23:46:36] < aadster> like is there a such thing as a free one or something?
[23:46:55] < aadster> or can i get a PHP mail server to do all the dirty work and design my interface?
[23:47:10] < i_c-Y> sendmail, postfix with sendmail wrappers, qmail with sendmail wrappers.
[23:47:21] < i_c-Y> basically anything that has sendmail wrappers pretty much.
[23:48:00] < aadster> personally
[23:48:03] < aadster> what would you use?
[23:48:41] < Ox40> gmail.
[23:49:25] < i_c-Y> hm.
[23:49:38] < i_c-Y> probably sendmail
[23:49:45] < i_c-Y> including the masochist sections of the manual.
[23:49:49] < i_c-Y> but if youre on windows
[23:49:53] < i_c-Y> google for some mail servers
[23:50:27] < i_c-Y> you could also find an open one and see the php.net/mail page.
[23:50:54] < i_c-Y> or if you have some paid hosting you probalby have php already set with sendmail
[23:50:58] < i_c-Y> or postfix or qmail
[23:52:10] < i_c-Y> you could also get something like kerio's mail server
[23:52:13] < i_c-Y> install it on windows
[23:52:20] < i_c-Y> and set the smtp stuff in php.ini
[23:52:24] < i_c-Y> and similar stuff for other things.
[23:52:39] < aadster> im using 000webhost.com
[23:53:03] < i_c-Y> seems like you have a mailserver on there.
[23:53:10] < i_c-Y> in which case test it on there.
[23:53:19] < aadster> sorry man, but can i ask you something
[23:53:20] < i_c-Y> cpanel will tell you where the mail server is, should you have to specify it
[23:53:26] < aadster> err
[23:53:26] < aadster> wait
[23:53:28] < aadster> 1 sec
[23:53:51] < aadster> see im in cPanel
[23:53:57] < aadster> but honestly, I have no idea where to start
[23:54:03] < aadster> here are the icons i see:
[23:54:44] < aadster> under the Mail section
[23:54:45] < aadster> Email Accounts, Webmail, Spam Assassain, Forwarders, Auto Responders, User Level Filtering, Account Level Filtering, Email Delivery Route, MX Entry
[23:55:02] <+tifreak> I miss having CPanel...
[23:55:29] < aadster> but i have no idea how to set up this mail server
[23:55:30] < i_c-Y> look around. you could also look at the output of phpinfo
[23:55:47] < i_c-Y> its already set up for you
[23:55:53] < i_c-Y> you probably dont have to worry about it
[23:55:54] < aadster> so what am i trying to find?
[23:56:19] < aadster> like, should I set up email addresses on my website using cPanel, and then have my interface interact with them?
[23:56:26] < i_c-Y> its probably already setup for you. so dont worry about it, and just read the php mail page and their IMAP/SMTP/NNTP pages.
[23:56:34] < i_c-Y> that would be preferable.
[23:56:47] < aadster> ok
[23:56:50] < aadster> hey man
[23:57:09] < aadster> wait
[23:57:11] < aadster> nvm
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