--- Log opened Wed Mar 26 00:00:06 2008 --- Day changed Wed Mar 26 2008 [00:00:06] -!- Tari_ [Tari@CPE-24-167-219-20.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa [00:00:08] <@efneTI86> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November [00:00:12] < _Digital> i_c-Y, Cricket_B wants back in and its not a 5 min ban you set as you said, fyi [00:00:22] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Tari_] by efneTI86 [00:00:28] < i_c-Y> _Digital: i didnt set it [00:00:30] < i_c-Y> :) [00:00:33] <+chronomex> sorry [00:00:42] < i_c-Y> and i dont undo others' bans [00:00:47] < i_c-Y> especially when its so convenient [00:01:00] < _Digital> nvm, chronomex aparently sees his mistake [00:01:05] < _Digital> yeah I know [00:01:08] <+chronomex> 's not a mistake [00:01:10] <+chronomex> but sure [00:01:12] < _Digital> I'm just relaying the message [00:01:23] < _Digital> I don't mind him gone either [00:01:51] -!- mode/#tcpa [-b *!*@cpe-72-129-89-238.socal.res.rr.com] by efneTI86 [00:01:59] < _Digital> http://pastebin.com/d4bfc7d95 [00:02:00] <+chronomex> but that was > 5m [00:02:05] <+chronomex> :'( [00:02:06] < _Digital> meh [00:02:17] < i_c-Y> http://jj.am/gallery/d/38043-1/LanceArmstrongThread.png [00:02:25] -!- Cricket_B [~CricketLo@cpe-72-129-89-238.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa [00:02:43] < Cricket_B> Why was I banned? [00:02:53] <+Merthsoft> so, Cricket_B, where are you from? [00:03:09] < _Digital> thats awesome i_c-Y [00:03:36] < Cricket_B> Southern California; hence socal [00:03:39] < i_c-Y> _Digital: ? [00:03:43] < _Digital> yo [00:04:01] < Cricket_B> Can I have EXACT details why I was banned? [00:04:04] < _Digital> I put up the past bin, or did I put up the wrong one [00:04:10] -!- Tari [Tari@CPE-24-167-219-20.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 306 seconds] [00:04:23] <+Merthsoft> Cricket_B: You never told me that, chronomex said socal, and he's a dick, so he coulda been lying [00:04:31] < i_c-Y> oh, nevermind, i see what you said was awesome [00:04:36] <+Merthsoft> (chronomex, I don't think you're a dick, I love you) [00:04:39] < Cricket_B> Run a /whois on me [00:04:49] <+chronomex> Merthsoft: <3 <3 <3 [00:04:53] <+Merthsoft> ah, ok [00:05:01] < i_c-Y> _Digital: well, its treating your cd rom as a scsi generic, so that might explain why hdparm is acting the way it is [00:05:12] < Cricket_B> Hence the sc [00:05:14] < i_c-Y> _Digital: what computer / drive is this? [00:05:20] < Cricket_B> SCsi [00:05:36] < _Digital> home built box, samsung lightscribe drive [00:05:43] <+chronomex> Cricket_B: you don't know anything about unix, and it shows [00:05:45] < Cricket_B> Well, it's beyond me 'cuz there's no / in DOS [00:05:47] <+chronomex> please don't try [00:05:50] < _Digital> that drive and HDD are on teh ide channel [00:06:18] < _Digital> thoughts why he got banned [00:07:01] < i_c-Y> try sr0 too. [00:07:03] -!- Sir_Lewk [~john@c-76-98-224-234.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [00:07:03] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!! [00:07:14] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Sir_Lewk] by etaonrish [00:07:24] < _Digital> thats the one we have tried [00:07:29] < i_c-Y> or sg0 [00:07:42] < _Digital> I/O error [00:08:09] < i_c-Y> then id assume your cd drive is sr0. [00:08:16] < i_c-Y> dont you have something mounted off the cd? [00:08:26] < _Digital> it no big deal, just want the drive to keep spinning so I don't have to wait for it to spin up when I'm futsing around here all the time [00:08:48] < Cricket_B> _Digital, the drive spins down for a reason. [00:09:02] < Cricket_B> The drive moter draws a LOT of power [00:09:14] <+chronomex> Cricket_B: ... [00:09:16] < i_c-Y> Cricket_B: ... [00:09:35] <+chronomex> Cricket_B: you know less, not more, than most everyone here [00:09:39] <+chronomex> even glk [00:09:42] < Cricket_B> What? I can help with hardware. [00:10:00] <+chronomex> right, but everyone knows that drive motors are decent draw [00:10:12] < i_c-Y> chronomex: glk isnt stupid. [00:10:12] <+chronomex> dial it back, idle a while [00:10:13] -!- netham45 [~netham45@c-76-25-242-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [00:10:15] <@efneTI86> [netham45] wewt [00:10:22] < Cricket_B> Not if it's running for a long time. [00:10:22] <+chronomex> i_c-Y: I know :) [00:10:22] < i_c-Y> however someone who is just joined the party [00:10:33] < _Digital> dude, I know why it spins down and my CPU is using more juice then it does, just sit tight and be quiet unless you know how to iinstall a real OS [00:10:45] < _Digital> directed at Cricket_B or course [00:10:58] < Cricket_B> What CPU model? [00:11:26] < Cricket_B> And I know how to install Windows. [00:11:38] < _Digital> I said a real OS [00:11:45] <+chronomex> Cricket_B: what part of "sit tight and be quiet" do you not understand? [00:12:06] < Cricket_B> You did not tell me to do that, though. [00:12:10] < _Digital> I did [00:12:24] < i_c-Y> oh right, _Digital , its appearing that way because the IDE isnt native anymore on P965 [00:12:40] < i_c-Y> its provided probably by the jmicron chipset used for the extra sata ports on your board [00:12:40] < Cricket_B> It's not in the log at all [00:12:51] < _Digital> [17:18:22] <_Digital> dude, I know why it spins down and my CPU is using more juice then it does, just sit tight and be quiet unless you know how to iinstall a real OS [00:13:14] <+Merthsoft> i stand as a witness [00:13:18] * Cricket_B bangs head on table [00:13:25] <+chronomex> good, keep doing that [00:13:34] < _Digital> thanks i_c-Y, that info is a help for the explanation [00:13:35] < i_c-Y> _Digital: it will get a lot smoother once you get an up to date kernel. [00:14:05] < i_c-Y> oh yeah [00:14:06] < _Digital> its smooth already with this livecd. Just need to figure out what I can customize without breaking the install or how to fix the break [00:14:12] < i_c-Y> and you should have booted probably with all-generic-ide [00:14:15] < _Digital> hence the 'futsing' [00:14:21] < i_c-Y> and made sure SATA was in ahci mode [00:14:31] < Cricket_B> Win *bang* dows *bang* is *bang* a *bang* real *bang* op *bang* er *bang* at *bang* ing *bang* sys *bang* tem [00:14:44] < _Digital> it takes twice as long if I have achi enabled to boot on this machine [00:14:44] <+chronomex> !k Cricket_B no [00:14:45] -!- Cricket_B was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [chronomex: no] [00:14:46] -!- Cricket_B [~CricketLo@cpe-72-129-89-238.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa [00:15:03] < _Digital> chronomex or i_c-Y, please ban him [00:15:12] < i_c-Y> and when you configure your kernel, make sure to do scsi disk support, scsi generic support, serial ata support, ahci sata support, intel pix/ich sata support, and a bunch of stuff under the ata/atapi/mfm/rll section [00:15:27] < Cricket_B> Isn't Windows a real operating system? [00:15:39] < i_c-Y> check the gentoo wiki on anoter P965 board for more details, such as the P965 DS-3 or DS-4 or whatever board you have cause i dont remember. [00:16:00] <+Merthsoft> Cricket_B: If you don't want these dudes to ban you, I suggest you just chill out [00:16:11] -!- mode/#tcpa [+b *!*@cpe-72-129-89-238.socal.res.rr.com] by efneTI86 [00:16:11] -!- Cricket_B was kicked from #tcpa by SnowCrash [Banned: Come back when you're past puberty. Actually, please don't.] [00:16:19] <+chronomex> too late :) [00:16:21] < netham45> too late [00:16:25] < netham45> lol [00:16:26] <+Merthsoft> too late [00:16:26] < _Digital> oh, I've gotten it to work fine. Boots in about 7 seconds on a minimal install [00:16:40] < i_c-Y> _Digital: for further reference, and when you're configuring your kernel [00:16:58] < _Digital> I'll copy that over, thanks again [00:17:36] < i_c-Y> np [00:18:24] < i_c-Y> (also for wakeup on lan, make sure to add options (module for kernel) enable_wol=1 in modules.conf) [00:18:50] < _Digital> WoL should work to boot a machine too correct? [00:19:02] < i_c-Y> scroll up , i replied to that [00:19:16] < i_c-Y> pretty much G1, G2 ACPI states [00:19:23] < i_c-Y> which is sleep, standby, hibernate, soft power off [00:19:29] < i_c-Y> and variants on them. [00:19:32] < i_c-Y> not mechanical power off. [00:20:04] < i_c-Y> basically the ethernet adapter needs power and there must be power connected to the machine. [00:20:27] < _Digital> its out of my buffer length and thats what I remember you saying. Don't think suspend is supported on amd64 but I'll look into it [00:20:35] < _Digital> logout [00:20:43] < _Digital> grr wrong keyboard [00:21:50] <+chronomex> hm, I think I set a permban [00:21:52] <+chronomex> pity [00:21:53] < i_c-Y> it is [00:21:56] <+Sir_Lewk> http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=ap5lq52KkZRk [00:22:02] < _Digital> not really [00:22:21] <+Sir_Lewk> I think I would repect Clinton more if she just admitted she made it up/lied [00:23:06] <+Sir_Lewk> having someone who's imagination completely reconstructs their memories about routine events running as president is not comforting to me... [00:23:32] < i_c-Y> _Digital: the suspend utilites have been ported to amd64 for years - it just is a question of how much work you want to do to get suspend / hibernate to work (note that i never commented that it was easy , though i have it working on amd64 in my slamd64 install) [00:23:34] < _Digital> anyone see the composite of half her face being Bills? [00:24:10] < _Digital> [17:31:22] * You have been invited to #TCPA_ban_argue by Cricket_B (irc.dks.ca) [00:24:33] < _Digital> who wants to fidn out his address. I'm in SoCal I'll go knock on his dorr [00:24:37] < _Digital> door* [00:24:47] <+chronomex> cute [00:24:51] <+chronomex> sweet [00:26:24] < _Digital> heh, thats the only channel he is in. He likes being annoying like a Cricket. anywho back to work [00:27:01] < i_c-Y> wow , i havent heard this song in a while [00:27:07] < i_c-Y> coolio- gangster's paradise [00:31:16] -!- mode/#tcpa [-b *!*@cpe-72-129-89-238.socal.res.rr.com] by efneTI86, efneTI83, efneTI92, efneTI89 [00:32:52] < aardvarq> Cricket_B is ~CricketLo@cpe-72-129-89-238.socal.res.rr.com * CricketLover [00:32:52] < aardvarq> Cricket_B on @#TCPA_ban_argue [00:33:01] < aardvarq> Cricket_B using irc.mzima.net Welcome to the fjear nation. [00:33:06] -!- Chirp_Boy [~CricketLo@cpe-72-129-89-238.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa [00:33:06] -!- mode/#tcpa [+b *!*@cpe-72-129-89-238.socal.res.rr.com] by Remius [00:33:06] -!- Chirp_Boy was kicked from #tcpa by Remius [Banned: Come back when you're past puberty. Actually, please don't.] [00:33:25] < aardvarq> So. Who is cricket_b and why are they banned? [00:33:50] < _Digital> annoying kid thinking he knows more about linux than I do [00:34:03] < _Digital> I don't know much but he doesn't know jack sh8t [00:34:13] < _Digital> amongst other things like and IRC License [00:34:20] < aardvarq> The ban is set perm. This is clearly an error. What was the intended length? [00:34:28] < i_c-Y> ask chronomex [00:34:30] <+chronomex> 15-20m [00:34:38] <+chronomex> I've never done bans before, sorry [00:34:55] <@Andy_J> %15m [00:35:01] <+chronomex> ah, % [00:35:19] < aardvarq> chronomex: yeah it's hard. I _STILL_ have to do .help +ban most of the time. [00:35:45] <@Andy_J> I just .+ban\ [00:35:49] < _Digital> hey i_c-Y. I set all that up and the drives still show up the same ;). No worries man [00:35:50] <@Andy_J> I just .+ban\n to get the quick help [00:35:55] <+chronomex> k cool [00:36:07] -!- btrettel [~btrettel@btrettel.student.umd.edu] has quit [http://www.calc.org/] [00:36:19] -!- mode/#tcpa [-b *!*@cpe-72-129-89-238.socal.res.rr.com] by efneTI89, Remius, efneTI85 [00:37:52] <+chronomex> I'm sure that Nikky doesn't have to .help +ban ... [00:38:04] -!- mode/#tcpa [+vv Swivel kevinh90] by efneTI89 [00:38:07] < _Digital> Nikky is just special [00:38:15] < i_c-Y> i dont have to .help +ban [00:38:27] < i_c-Y> but this isnt the only channel where i have an account on an eggdrop. [00:39:09] -!- Ben_O is now known as CaseTheBa [00:39:15] -!- netham45 is now known as BenO [00:39:19] -!- CaseTheBa is now known as Ben_O [00:39:26] -!- BenO is now known as Netham45 [00:39:46] -!- Cricket_B [~CricketLo@cpe-72-129-89-238.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa [00:39:48] <+chronomex> ... what the hell? [00:39:51] < i_c-Y> you know how we feel about impersonation, Netham45 [00:40:15] <@E-J> i think that impersonation was directed to other channel [00:40:18] < _Digital> think he knows how we feel about Netham45 period [00:40:42] < aardvarq> Only reason I didn't ban Netham45 already for that is I have no idea who Ben_O is. [00:40:50] < i_c-Y> speler [00:40:54] < Ben_O> I'm speler [00:41:15] < Netham45> oh, lol [00:41:17] < Netham45> forgot I was in here [00:41:22] < Cricket_B> LOL [00:41:36] < Netham45> Cricket_B: not that funny... [00:41:49] <+chronomex> ooo slapdown [00:41:50] <+Merthsoft> LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL [00:41:52] -!- mode/#tcpa [+b *!*@c-76-25-242-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net] by efneTI89 [00:41:52] -!- Netham45 was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI89 [Banned: 15 minutes for impersonating] [00:41:53] < _Digital> Netham45, read the buffer over tha past half an hour [00:42:00] < _Digital> damn [00:43:10] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Ben_O] by efneTI89 [00:43:23] -!- OneHalf [~chavez@76.8.217.50] has joined #tcpa [00:43:35] < aardvarq> oh dear [00:43:37] -!- OneHalf is now known as Barrett_ [00:43:54] <+chronomex> I'm very confused now [00:44:12] < Cricket_B> One half of a barrett_ [00:44:16] < Cricket_B> ? [00:45:29] < Cricket_B> Who was 'Netham45'? [00:45:52] <@E-J> the most annoying one before randomist and you [00:46:05] < Barrett_> odd... all of the sudden the server's time is off by nearly 10 minutes [00:46:17] < Cricket_B> They were... [00:47:20] -!- Netsplit hub.efnet.nl <-> efnet.xs4all.nl quits: Barrett, +TrN, non-sense [00:47:20] < _Digital> so Cricket_B, when even Netham45 says you deserved the banning, you deserved it. Stop trying to rally folks in this channel against those who are in charge. [00:47:30] -!- sense-non [d0nskeet@CPE001a9242cc4d-CM0012257058c6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #tcpa [00:47:33] < _Digital> oooo, been a while since I've been here for a netsplit [00:47:36] <+Merthsoft> I declare a coup! [00:47:56] < Cricket_B> msg Netham45 Please don't hack the server. We can tell time. We are not stupid (at least most of us aren't). [00:48:00] * Merthsoft stabs all the ops [00:48:05] * _Digital slaps Merthsoft get a hole of yourself man! [00:48:11] < Cricket_B> Sorry. I forgot the slash. [00:48:17] * Merthsoft makes a hole in himself [00:48:43] <@E-J> W T F [00:48:50] <+chronomex> ooh control codes [00:49:01] < i_c-Y> Merthsoft: there are only two people cool enough to have a successful coup in this channel- me and duke nukem. seeing that the latter is fictional, only i am cool enough. [00:49:15] <+Merthsoft> But I will try! [00:49:37] < _Digital> don't make me toss you near a star i_c-Y, you might evaporate [00:49:43] < i_c-Y> :( [00:49:44] <+Merthsoft> AND TO DIE TRYING IS BETTER THAN TO LIVE UNDER THIS TYRANNY ANYMORE! (You can totally kick me for that, if you want) [00:49:57] < _Digital> !k Merthsoft k [00:49:57] -!- Merthsoft was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [_Digital: k] [00:49:58] < i_c-Y> !k Merthsoft caps [00:50:01] < _Digital> lol [00:50:03] -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.22.125] has joined #tcpa [00:50:03] < i_c-Y> what noooooooooooo [00:50:06] < i_c-Y> :( [00:58:00] < Merthsoft> i'm back [00:58:01] < _Digital> pwned [00:58:06] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Merthsoft] by efneTI86 [00:58:36] * Cricket_B kicks himself [00:58:53] < _Digital> ... [00:59:40] < Cricket_B> Should I bring in Chirp_Boy for more realism? [00:59:41] < Cricket_B> I take that unexistant response in the period as a no. [00:59:44] < _Digital> laptop is definately staying cooler on this new stand. About 8 to 10 degrees C [01:00:16] < Cricket_B> Woah... [01:00:31] -!- _Dig|ghst [~DC@pool-96-240-47-219.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa [01:01:16] < _Dig|ghst> when you've been kicked at least once and banned twice in one day. I wouldn't bring in a clone of yourself unless you are liked [01:01:18] < _Dig|ghst> like me [01:01:20] -!- _Dig|ghst [~DC@pool-96-240-47-219.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] [01:01:35] < Cricket_B> He has a clone! [01:01:49] * _Digital goes to test something [01:02:18] * Cricket_B reboots _Digital's laptop. [01:02:38] < aardvarq> is non-sense just a lurker or what? [01:02:44] < aardvarq> Or in this case sense-non? [01:02:56] < Cricket_B> I guess. [01:03:14] -!- _Dig|ghst [~DC@pool-96-240-47-219.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa [01:03:18] < Cricket_B> Sense-non has no keyboard!!! [01:03:37] < _Dig|ghst> !k Cricket_B please learn to be less annoying [01:03:39] -!- Cricket_B was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [_Digital: please learn to be less annoying] [01:03:39] -!- Cricket_B [~CricketLo@cpe-72-129-89-238.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa [01:03:50] < _Dig|ghst> ooo, autojoin [01:04:00] < _Dig|ghst> don't we have a thing against that? [01:04:07] < aardvarq> We do not. [01:04:07] < _Dig|ghst> I know it tick off Andy_J [01:04:14] < _Dig|ghst> or used too [01:04:18] < _Dig|ghst> meh, w/e [01:04:20] < aardvarq> It might. [01:04:21] <+BrandonW> Everything ticks him off. [01:04:24] < Cricket_B> I wanted to see if Sense-non was just lurking around. [01:04:27] < _Dig|ghst> lol, true [01:04:31] < aardvarq> BrandonW: you're thinking of Nikky [01:04:42] <+BrandonW> Nikky's quite content most of the time...that's how he's an effective troll. [01:04:45] <+BrandonW> Andy is a grouch. [01:04:49] -!- mode/#tcpa [-b *!*@c-76-25-242-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net] by etaonrish, efneTI85 [01:04:49] < _Dig|ghst> Nikky is a troll, he always pretends to get ticked off [01:04:49] -!- Netham45 [~netham45@c-76-25-242-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [01:04:49] <@efneTI86> [Netham45] wewt [01:04:50] -!- mode/#tcpa [+b *!*@c-76-25-242-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net] by efneTI92 [01:04:50] -!- Netham45 was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI92 [Banned: 15 minutes for impersonating] [01:05:01] < aardvarq> There's an autorejoin. :) [01:05:07] -!- mode/#tcpa [-b *!*@c-76-25-242-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net] by Remius [01:05:15] < _Dig|ghst> heh [01:05:19] < Cricket_B> autoreban on Netham45 [01:05:25] < Cricket_B> :D [01:05:25] -!- Netham45 [~netham45@c-76-25-242-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [01:05:26] < _Dig|ghst> anywho, me stop spamming with two clients [01:05:28] -!- _Dig|ghst [~DC@pool-96-240-47-219.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] [01:05:48] < aardvarq> Netham45: race condition I guess [01:05:55] < Cricket_B> Huh? [01:06:05] <@E-J> Cricket_B: if i'll be you, i wouldn't laugh [01:06:14] < Netham45> aardvarq: huh? [01:06:26] < aardvarq> the ban [01:06:31] < _Digital> E-J, how's life across the pond? [01:06:36] < Netham45> oh [01:06:42] * Cricket_B wants to laugh [01:06:50] * Cricket_B doesn't laugh [01:06:56] < aardvarq> The first bot had expired it, but the laggiest had not. [01:06:57] < Netham45> also, Cricket_B, don't invite me to channels whose purpose is to fight #TCPA bans. [01:07:02] < Netham45> aardvarq: ok. [01:07:12] <@E-J> _Digital: ok, easter holiday going on [01:07:21] < Cricket_B> Sorry. Bad name, huh. [01:07:28] < Cricket_B> No arguing there [01:07:32] < _Digital> Netham45, I let everyione in here know about that so we're less tolerant [01:07:32] < i_c-Y> especially since out of everyone here, Netham45 is the one whose least capable of fighting them. [01:08:02] < Netham45> _Digital: ok. [01:08:07] < Cricket_B> I guess then I'm not the worst. [01:08:16] < Netham45> Cricket_B: I look down on you. [01:08:20] < Netham45> that's a bad thing. [01:08:24] < Netham45> you are the worst. [01:08:51] * Cricket_B is short. [01:09:02] * chronomex hangs up his banhammer of sanity and goes home [01:09:02] < Netham45> you are also pathetic. [01:09:03] < _Digital> hey aardvarq, when epfarms want to go down again, can they send out an e-mail? Also, why haven't I been able to access my imap account with ssl in the past, oh say 3 months [01:09:15] * chronomex makes sure that the banhammer is in easy reach of i_c-Y [01:09:44] < i_c-Y> i just have to join the partyline. [01:09:45] < aardvarq> _Digital: Are you subscribed to downtime_talk? [01:10:00] < Cricket_B> Permission to get the banhammer? [01:10:01] * Cricket_B is NOT granted banhammer permission. [01:10:07] < aardvarq> And I am accessing my imap account at this very moment over SSL. [01:10:20] < _Digital> no, I'll put myself on it, but I still can't check my account unless I disable ssl in my client [01:10:33] < aardvarq> What is your client? [01:10:40] < _Digital> OS X, Mail [01:10:41] < Cricket_B> Mine? [01:10:47] < Cricket_B> Nvr mnd [01:10:58] < _Digital> nvm is shorter Cricket_B [01:11:19] < Cricket_B> I is shorter [01:11:30] < Netham45> STFU! [01:11:35] < Netham45> HOLY CRAP YOU ARE ANNOYNI+ [01:11:37] < Netham45> ANNOYING [01:11:42] < Cricket_B> I'll stop [01:11:53] < i_c-Y> he acts like the old Randomist [01:11:58] < Cricket_B> Me? [01:12:01] < _Digital> yes [01:12:01] < Netham45> yes, you. [01:12:09] <+chronomex> No, you won't. You'll just pretend to stop, and then start again in a minute or two. [01:12:22] * Netham45 hands chronomex the banhammer [01:12:24] < aardvarq> Netham45: You were worse like 3 years ago. [01:12:27] < aardvarq> :) [01:12:31] <+chronomex> Netham45: it's not yours to hand me [01:12:45] < Netham45> chronomex: I know, it's yours, that's why I was handing it to you. [01:13:05] < _Digital> he gave it to i_c-Y [01:13:07] < Netham45> aardvarq: I was proxy-finding, disrupt the channel worse [01:13:17] <@E-J> aardvarq: was he worse than hunterkll [01:13:28] < Netham45> E-J: :( [01:14:01] < i_c-Y> you're only allowed to act the way you want if you either A) know useful stuff or B) have power or C) Both. [01:14:19] <+BrandonW> Does anyone fit into C? [01:14:24] -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.22.125] has quit [Quit: Leaving] [01:14:32] <@E-J> pad? [01:14:40] < i_c-Y> having power means !k, BrandonW :) [01:15:07] <@E-J> !seen patrickd [01:15:09] <@efneTI86> PatrickD (pad@c-76-22-58-7.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) was last seen quitting from #ti-net 4 days, 1 hour, 24 minutes ago stating (lost in the netsplit). [01:15:25] <@E-J> seen patrickd [01:15:26] <@efneTI86> patrickd is Patrick^D, and Patrick^D is on the channel right now! [01:15:32] <@E-J> oho [01:15:41] * Cricket_B wonders if he'll be allowed to talk about the TI-84+ SE and the program idea he has, or will that get everybody mad at him? [01:15:50] <@E-J> how did i miss him [01:15:52] <+BrandonW> Go right ahead. [01:16:09] < _Digital> you have a friend in BrandonW in that regard. [01:16:17] < Cricket_B> I want to make a FS2004 monitor for the TI-84 [01:16:36] <+BrandonW> I'm not sure what you mean by FS2004 monitor. [01:16:50] < i_c-Y> he wants to display stats from Flight simulator 2004 on the calculator probably [01:17:03] < Cricket_B> It would interface through FSUIPC (gets variables from the program) and send the data to the calc (things like the heading or airspeed) [01:17:08] < Cricket_B> Yeah. [01:17:28] < Cricket_B> I just need to find a way for the computer to tell the calculator the things. [01:17:52] < Cricket_B> Something like the TI-BASIC GetCalc( command [01:17:58] <+BrandonW> I know nothing about how you'd grab that information from FS2004. [01:18:09] < Cricket_B> (where the calc asks the PC, instead of the PC forcing data to the calc) [01:18:52] <+BrandonW> Have a program on the PC listening for link activity, and then the calculator initiates some sort of link transfer. [01:18:58] < Cricket_B> I know how to get the FS2004 information, I just need to know how the calculator can get the data from a program using the GetCalc( command. [01:19:18] < Cricket_B> Not with GetCalc( [01:19:28] <+BrandonW> GetCalc( and the other BASIC link commands are kind of involved. [01:19:39] <+BrandonW> What they're doing is initiating a link transfer of a variable back and forth. [01:19:45] <+BrandonW> Which includes multiple packets. [01:20:03] <+DSP_Lord> E-J: Patrick^D is a ninja, obv. [01:20:13] < Cricket_B> I need to have it so I call GetCalc( on the calculator for, say, H, and then the computer responds with, IDK, the heading. [01:20:19] < Netham45> Cricket_B: look at Omnicalcs linkget [01:20:24] <+BrandonW> The I/O link is even more involved on the PC side...the best thing to do is use libticables from TiLP. [01:20:36] < Cricket_B> I need docs on them. [01:20:44] <+BrandonW> Unfortunately, the documentation sucks. [01:20:51] <+BrandonW> All of TiLP sucks, basically, except for that DLL. [01:21:09] * Cricket_B bangs head, like he did earlier [01:21:37] <+BrandonW> The reason why you'd you want to use TiLP is that it supports all the different link cables, serial, parallel, $4 link, blacklink, graylink... [01:21:40] < Cricket_B> How can I use that one DLL in VB6? [01:21:44] <+BrandonW> Silverlink... [01:21:51] < Cricket_B> Yup. [01:21:53] <+BrandonW> I'm proud to say that I don't know VB6, so I couldn't say. [01:22:14] < Netham45> I never got TiLP dlls to work right in VB6 [01:22:15] <+BrandonW> I would do a lot of googling and reading on how you'd use those DLL functions. [01:22:20] -!- Leofox [~Miranda@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] [01:22:25] < Cricket_B> I mean, how can I use the dlls? [01:22:52] < Netham45> Cricket_B: look at MSDN [01:22:59] <+BrandonW> I can't say specifically because I don't know in VB6, but it'll expose a group of functions to you that you can call. [01:23:14] <+BrandonW> Some of which are initializing, killing the link, and sending/receiving over it. [01:23:14] < Cricket_B> Can I download JUST libticables.dll ? [01:23:21] <+BrandonW> Get the TiLP II SDK. [01:23:31] < Cricket_B> URL? [01:23:36] -!- mokomull [mmullins@nat-168-7-230-238.rice.edu] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [01:23:39] <+BrandonW> http://www.google.com/ [01:23:43] <+BrandonW> Type in TiLP II SDK. [01:23:47] <+BrandonW> And press enter. [01:23:48] < Cricket_B> Google stinks. [01:23:54] <+BrandonW> That's not true. [01:23:57] < Netham45> no [01:24:01] < Netham45> MSN/Yahoo! stink [01:24:06] < Cricket_B> TiLP II SDK. [01:24:24] < Cricket_B> Now what do I do? [01:24:25] < Cricket_B> (LAM) [01:24:33] <+BrandonW> http://lpg.ticalc.org/prj_tilp/architecture.html [01:24:35] < Netham45> omg... [01:25:29] < Cricket_B> Thanks!LAMFBSAI [01:25:42] <+BrandonW> The only person here who has even tried in VB6 is Netham, and since he's useless, I guess you're out of luck. [01:25:43] < _Digital> Netham45, just go do something else so you cannot see your IRC window. Thats what I'm doing [01:25:48] <+BrandonW> All I can suggest is just reading on it. [01:25:58] < Netham45> lol @ _Digital [01:26:00] < Cricket_B> LAMFBSAI [01:26:04] <+TD-Linux> I'm sure Netham45 has multiple displays [01:26:07] <+BrandonW> What is that supposed to mean? [01:26:09] < Cricket_B> LAMFBSAI = Laughing at myself for being such an idiot [01:26:13] <+TD-Linux> Cricket_B, start explaining these acronyms [01:26:17] < Netham45> DLLs in VB6 suck [01:26:20] < Cricket_B> I just did [01:26:32] -!- Netsplit over, joins: TrN [01:26:35] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v TrN] by efneTI81 [01:26:35] < Netham45> TD-Linux: not right now [01:26:37] <+TD-Linux> LAYFBSA [01:26:49] <+TD-Linux> = laughing at ou for being such an idiot [01:26:49] < _Digital> can we have an IQ test in order for people to join this channel? [01:26:56] <+TD-Linux> mine is 144 [01:27:08] < Cricket_B> mine is n/0 [01:27:08] < _Digital> 120 and up [01:27:25] < Netham45> \o/ [01:27:27] < Cricket_B> Err:Divide by zero [01:27:27] < Netham45> I'm above that [01:27:28] <+chronomex> how about 80 and up even? [01:27:44] <+BrandonW> If we had an IQ test to enter the channel, it'd be pretty empty. [01:27:46] < _Digital> how about 3 and up if you want to do that chronomex [01:28:07] < Cricket_B> But then Netham45 would qualify... [01:28:20] < _Digital> you wouldn't though [01:28:31] < Cricket_B> I knew you'd say that [01:28:48] < Netham45> Cricket_B: if you don't get the message, we don't like you. [01:28:52] < _Digital> no other way to make it more obvious than saying it [01:29:07] < Cricket_B> can I LAMFBSAI? [01:29:10] <+BrandonW> Netham45, nobody likes you and you STILL don't get the message. [01:29:19] < Netham45> BrandonW: no, I don't care. There is a difference. [01:29:19] < _Digital> how about kicking yourself [01:29:47] <+chronomex> I can do that! [01:30:03] * Cricket_B kicks himself, then LAHFBSAI [01:30:04] < Cricket_B> (Laughs at himself for being such an idiot) [01:30:14] < _Digital> !k Cricket_B shut up already [01:30:15] -!- Cricket_B was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [_Digital: shut up already] [01:30:16] -!- Cricket_B [~CricketLo@cpe-72-129-89-238.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa [01:31:09] * Cricket_B is an idiot [01:31:10] <+chronomex> whatever happened to 18:13:03 < Cricket_B> I'll stop ? [01:31:27] < Cricket_B> That was 18:13:03 [01:31:50] < Netham45> very astute of you. [01:33:03] < Cricket_B> Why can't I add "Test" to ""? [01:33:27] <+BrandonW> I'm afraid that doesn't make any sense. [01:33:31] <+chronomex> ... because they're strings? [01:33:54] < Cricket_B> :""-->Str1 [01:33:55] < Cricket_B> :Disp Str1 + "Test" [01:34:02] < Cricket_B> I get an error [01:34:13] < _Digital> you cannot add strings [01:34:17] < Netham45> your brain gets an error [01:34:18] <+BrandonW> Sure you can. [01:34:19] < _Digital> you have to append them [01:34:24] <+BrandonW> Which is done with +. [01:34:36] < Netham45> try :" [01:34:40] < _Digital> damn z80s, obey 68k laws [01:34:59] <+chronomex> BrandonW: on the 68k it's done with & [01:35:04] < Netham45> :""-> Str1 :Str1+"Test"->"Str1" :Disp Str1 [01:35:08] < Netham45> try that [01:35:19] < Cricket_B> Error [01:35:22] < _Digital> and called something else, not add, chronomex [01:35:43] < Netham45> append [01:35:58] < Cricket_B> Syntax error [01:36:03] < Netham45> Cricket_B: try this: Disp "Test" [01:36:04] <+BrandonW> I don't think chronomex was disputing that. [01:36:10] -!- Ben_O [~Ben_Oren@ool-4579011a.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 376 seconds] [01:36:14] < Netham45> it'll give the same result [01:36:29] < Cricket_B> What if it's in a loop? [01:36:50] < Netham45> then str1 would get cleared each time, and replaced with Test [01:36:52] -!- Ben_O [~Ben_Oren@ool-4579011a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #tcpa [01:36:59] < Netham45> ""->Str1 is clearing it [01:37:09] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Ben_O] by efneTI85 [01:37:20] < Cricket_B> :Repeat N [01:37:21] < Cricket_B> :Input "String?",Str2 [01:37:23] < Cricket_B> Srry. [01:37:27] <+BrandonW> Holy crap, that's Ben Orenstein. [01:37:34] <+TD-Linux> o.O [01:37:39] < Netham45> BrandonW: so? [01:37:53] <+TD-Linux> it's like ben kenobi, except less suicidal [01:37:56] <+BrandonW> I really don't remember. :( But I know it's familiar and probably significant. [01:38:04] < Netham45> it's Speler [01:38:04] <+BrandonW> Introduce yourself, Ben_O. [01:38:05] < Cricket_B> I have developed a bump on my head [01:38:13] <+chronomex> no, not you Cricket_B [01:38:26] < Cricket_B> LAMFBSAI [01:38:27] <+BrandonW> It's Speler? [01:38:29] <+chronomex> your head IS a bump between your shoulders [01:38:33] < Netham45> BrandonW: yea... [01:38:40] <+BrandonW> I guess it's not significant at all. [01:38:48] <+BrandonW> But it felt that way for some reason. [01:38:53] <+Nikky> Actually chronomex... I still .help +ban [01:38:54] <+Nikky> :) [01:38:54] < Netham45> lol,ok [01:39:01] <+Nikky> Because I constantly make mistakes [01:39:46] < Cricket_B> That bump on my head is bleeding [01:39:51] <+chronomex> good [01:40:02] <+chronomex> bang your head against the desk some more [01:40:20] * Cricket_B bangs chronomex's head on the desk [01:40:29] <+chronomex> nope, sorry [01:40:29] < Netham45> chronomex: that's a bit far to go. [01:40:31] <+chronomex> not that one [01:40:47] * Cricket_B bangs Cricket_B's head on the desk [01:40:47] < Netham45> I hate him too, but still, promoting one to physically hurt oneself is a bit far to go [01:41:01] <+chronomex> it's IRC, Netham45 [01:41:09] <+BrandonW> Yeah, and we wish you'd die all the time. [01:41:15] < Cricket_B> I don't want him to ban me [01:41:42] < Cricket_B> Netham45 has low authority [01:42:00] <+BrandonW> Netham45 has negative authority here. [01:42:05] <+BrandonW> If he wants something, we'll probably end up doing the opposite. [01:42:11] <+BrandonW> Just to spite him. [01:42:20] < Netham45> I want Cricket_B exempt from bans [01:42:21] <+chronomex> mmm spite [01:42:34] < Cricket_B> I like Sprite [01:42:45] <+chronomex> nope [01:43:09] < Cricket_B> When you shifted it, I saw a mark there that looked like an r [01:43:15] < Cricket_B> (on the screen) [01:43:24] < _Digital> c'mon lets do the opposite of Netham45's wish for pete's sake [01:43:31] <+Nikky> Hi Ben_O :) [01:43:35] <+BrandonW> But that's not really his wish. We're smarter than that! [01:43:37] -!- Ben_O [~Ben_Oren@ool-4579011a.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 376 seconds] [01:43:58] < _Digital> BrandonW, how long have you suffered here with him? [01:44:08] <+BrandonW> Who, Netham? [01:44:12] < _Digital> Cricket_B [01:44:12] < Netham45> BrandonW: play stupid, it'll be to your benefit. [01:44:26] <+chronomex> we've got quite enough stupid here already [01:44:34] < Netham45> he's like me+old randomist+Ox40 [01:44:44] <+BrandonW> And so he shall stay! [01:44:45] <+chronomex> *40 [01:44:48] -!- mode/#tcpa [+o Nikky] by efneTI86 [01:44:48] <@Nikky> We're being nice. [01:44:49] <+BrandonW> We'll use him to drive you away. [01:44:50] <@Nikky> Now. [01:44:51] < _Digital> "we don't need a tree of life. We need a tree of smart" [01:45:02] <+chronomex> a fountain, for dippint [01:45:05] <+chronomex> dipping [01:45:11] <@Nikky> Cricket_B is a newcomer, and lets not pick on him. [01:45:19] <+chronomex> no, he's not a newcomer [01:45:21] <@Nikky> Or else I'll get angry. [01:45:24] < _Digital> BrandonW, when do I ever come in anymore? [01:45:26] <+chronomex> he's been here a while ago [01:45:30] <@Nikky> ILLGETANGRY [01:45:37] <+BrandonW> _Digital, I don't know, why? [01:45:40] < _Digital> troll [01:45:50] < Cricket_B> Nikky is not a troll [01:45:57] < _Digital> not often BrandonW [01:46:38] <@Nikky> Hi _Digital :) [01:47:11] < _Digital> I'd say it to you in person Nikky and you know it [01:47:20] <@Nikky> I know [01:47:27] <+BrandonW> You'd say what? [01:47:28] <+BrandonW> Pervert. [01:47:30] < _Digital> wanna touch my lens? [01:47:46] <+BrandonW> I didn't even need to know what it was before I could say "Pervert." [01:48:01] < _Digital> coodies [01:48:02] <@Nikky> _Digital: of course ;) [01:48:24] <@Nikky> although my current fav lens is my 50mm prime [01:48:32] < Cricket_B> Please call (307)-298-5405 [01:48:35] < _Digital> which 50 prime [01:48:40] <@Nikky> f/1.8 [01:48:45] < Cricket_B> 50 is not prime [01:48:48] < _Digital> tis a good lens [01:48:50] < Netham45> Cricket_B: you pasted my number why? [01:49:00] <@Nikky> _Digital: I forgot if you got one of those [01:49:09] < _Digital> I don't have one [01:49:12] < Netham45> you have my number why? [01:49:19] <+chronomex> *how [01:49:20] < Cricket_B> (307)-298-54O5 isn't your number. [01:49:25] <+chronomex> there, I fixed it for you [01:49:33] <@Nikky> _Digital: Well, you should. They're fun. And cheap... so I stick it on my camera if someone else wants to use it. [01:49:37] < Cricket_B> [22:34] I can be reached at 1-(307)-298-5405 [01:49:44] < Cricket_B> Yesterday [01:49:49] < Netham45> yea [01:49:52] < Netham45> that's my number [01:49:55] <@Nikky> I told you guys posting your numbers on IRC was a bad idea. [01:50:02] <@Nikky> But noooo, don't listen to Nikky. [01:50:09] <@Nikky> What does Nikky know. He's just a troll. [01:50:18] < Netham45> lol [01:50:20] < Netham45> noones called me [01:50:30] < _Digital> yeah, no one listens to the trolls, even if they are opped [01:50:40] < Netham45> trolls suck [01:50:42] < Netham45> :( [01:50:51] < _Digital> don't you know it ;) [01:50:52] <@Nikky> :( [01:50:57] <@Nikky> I hate you all. [01:51:03] < Netham45> good. [01:51:10] < Netham45> that will help me sleep at night [01:51:22] < _Digital> you sleep? [01:51:26] <@Nikky> Okay andy and E-J... time to take over the channel. [01:52:54] -!- rivereye[ [~rivereye@c-71-205-94-72.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [01:52:56] <@efneTI86> [rivereye[] Is it time to go fishing? [01:53:04] * _Digital goes back to gentoo [01:53:09] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v rivereye[] by efneTI85, efneTI89 [01:53:11] <@Nikky> Gentoo? [01:53:13] <@Nikky> rotfl [01:53:20] < Netham45> have fun compiling [01:53:27] <@Nikky> Use debian. [01:53:28] <@Nikky> It's for champs. [01:53:29] <+chronomex> ^^^ [01:53:33] * chronomex is a champ [01:53:46] < _Digital> don't mind compiling [01:53:52] <+Sir_Lewk> chronomex is an hero [01:53:59] < _Digital> a hero* [01:54:01] <@Nikky> doesn't matter if you like compiling [01:54:03] <+chronomex> an hero [01:54:12] < Cricket_B> hero should not be preceded by an [01:54:14] <+Sir_Lewk> compiling is like rape [01:54:16] <@Nikky> gentoo will still come around to screw you in the ass [01:54:19] <+Sir_Lewk> it's just a control thing [01:54:25] <+chronomex> Cricket_B: in this situation it's wrong not to [01:54:29] <@Nikky> actually, "an hero" is proper [01:54:40] <@Nikky> since the h sounds like a vowel [01:54:50] <+chronomex> http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/An_hero [01:54:57] <+Sir_Lewk> bingo chronomex [01:55:10] < Cricket_B> Only if you spell it out out loud [01:56:07] <+BrandonW> Wrong. [01:56:20] <+BrandonW> It's "a hero." It depends on how it sounds, and the h is pronounced. [01:56:38] <+chronomex> BrandonW: but in 4chanland it's "an hero" [01:56:47] <+BrandonW> Yes, well, everyone in 4chanland is a moron. [01:56:51] <+BrandonW> And their opinion means nothing. [01:57:01] <+TD-Linux> no [01:57:01] * chronomex shidders [01:57:05] <+TD-Linux> it means negative [01:57:21] <@Nikky> /b/tards [01:57:24] <+Sir_Lewk> 4chanland is indeed for idiots [01:57:24] * Netham45 > 4chan [01:57:57] <+Sir_Lewk> I pretend to be a /b/tard to downplay my own incredible intelligence [01:59:08] <+Sir_Lewk> oh come on, nobody is going to dispute that?!? [01:59:11] <+BrandonW> Calcsys really needs to be modified to let you alter extra RAM and Flash pages. [01:59:24] <@Nikky> I agree BrandonW [02:00:11] <+BrandonW> Have you even run Calcsys, Nikky? [02:00:32] <+Sir_Lewk> what does Calcsys do, is it basically like the 68k's CommandPost+? [02:00:40] <+BrandonW> Yes. [02:00:41] <+chronomex> yes, sort of [02:00:45] <@Nikky> BrandonW: I have. [02:00:54] <+Sir_Lewk> neat, I should check it out [02:00:54] <@Nikky> I used to be a huge calculator nerd. [02:00:55] <+BrandonW> Or more accurately, CommandPost is basically like Calcsys. :) [02:00:55] <@Nikky> :( [02:01:00] <+Sir_Lewk> ah [02:01:11] -!- rivereye [rivereye@c-71-205-94-72.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 556 seconds] [02:02:15] -!- Ben_O [~Ben_Oren@ool-4579011a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #tcpa [02:02:29] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Ben_O] by SnowCrash [02:04:13] < Cricket_B> I'm back [02:04:26] < Cricket_B> seen Randomist [02:04:27] <@efneTI86> Randomist is on #tiasm right now! [02:04:39] < Cricket_B> New IRC, eh? [02:04:52] <+BrandonW> That's an older channel. [02:04:57] <+BrandonW> Which doesn't get much activity. [02:05:12] <+Sir_Lewk> probably more on topic... [02:06:26] < Cricket_B> Nope! [02:07:10] <+BrandonW> More than this sorry excuse for a calculator channel. [02:07:44] <+Sir_Lewk> I'd say we are more of a general computing oriented channel with a common interest in calculators [02:08:03] < _Digital> lets not be too specific [02:08:04] <+BrandonW> That's not its purpose. [02:08:07] <+BrandonW> That's just what it's become. [02:09:06] <+Sir_Lewk> I'm very happy to be on topic when the opportunity presents itself [02:09:14] < Cricket_B> Ditto! [02:09:55] -!- Hunterkll [~Hunterkll@pool-71-167-241-254.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa [02:09:57] -!- Cricket_B [~CricketLo@cpe-72-129-89-238.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] [02:10:27] <+Sir_Lewk> hello Hunterkll [02:11:36] < Hunterkll> Hai [02:12:27] <+Sir_Lewk> in other somewhat on topic news, I recently got the idea of making a Core Wars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_War) MARS for the ti-89 [02:13:19] <+Sir_Lewk> research is clearly in order but I think it might be doable [02:13:32] <+BrandonW> That's good. [02:14:40] <+Sir_Lewk> I *way* suck at Core War but I figure that the calc community has enough assembly guys that may find it interesting, dunno [02:16:26] <+BrandonW> I read that, but I'm still not sure I get it. [02:16:55] <+chronomex> I want to do it but I don't think I care enough [02:16:57] <+chronomex> :P [02:16:58] <+Sir_Lewk> you make little programs in this fake little assembly language and load them into a virtual machine [02:17:31] <+Sir_Lewk> the VM runs each one instruction at a time, they try to stop the execution of each other and be the last running [02:18:12] <+BrandonW> It runs each player's instructions back and forth? [02:18:18] <+Sir_Lewk> a simple program would just spew terminate statements everywhere, smarter ones actually scan looking for other programs [02:19:04] <+Sir_Lewk> yeah, first instruction of program1, first instruction of program2, 2nd of program1, 2nd of program2... [02:19:27] <+Tari_> that would be cool [02:20:04] -!- JoelS [~JSeligste@outbound285a.pasd.tfbnw.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] [02:21:15] <+BrandonW> It sounds too simple. [02:22:06] <+Sir_Lewk> it initially is, but the more advanced programs are wicked complex [02:22:50] <+Sir_Lewk> creating copies of themselves, using polymorphism to change into different styles, etc. [02:40:13] -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.22.125] has joined #tcpa [02:40:15] <@efneTI86> [Merthsoft] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles. [02:40:31] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Merthsoft] by efneTI81 [02:42:17] < ports> grr [02:42:23] < ports> how do i check my note on efneTI86 [02:42:29] < ports> its not accepting my password [02:42:44] < Hunterkll> Word up from NYC yo [02:43:39] <+Sir_Lewk> do people here use IDEs? [02:43:51] < ports> nope.. i do all my python in notepad++ [02:44:13] <+Sir_Lewk> yeah, I just use vim [02:44:43] < ports> i like the command coloring [02:45:05] <+Sir_Lewk> never really found an IDE worth using [02:45:22] < ports> python has one.. i dont really like it [02:45:26] <+Tari_> notepad++++ [02:45:30] <+Sir_Lewk> lol [02:46:15] <+Sir_Lewk> Kate is awesome but once you get used to vim, you don't go back ;) [02:47:19] <+BrandonW> An IDE for what? [02:47:31] <+BrandonW> That's kind of a vague question. [02:47:45] <+BrandonW> Notepad doesn't count as an integrated development environment. [02:47:46] <+Sir_Lewk> in general really [02:47:52] <+BrandonW> So you mean text editor? [02:48:05] <+Sir_Lewk> everyone uses some sort of text editor [02:48:18] <+BrandonW> Yes, and for some things, we use specialized IDEs. [02:48:24] <+BrandonW> But IDE doesn't mean text editor. [02:48:29] <+Sir_Lewk> I was just wondering if anyone used eclipse or anything like that [02:49:20] <+Sir_Lewk> I use KTIGCC occasionally but all my non-calc stuff I just use vim and bash for [02:57:35] <+Patrick^D> obviously [02:58:35] -!- Hunterkll [~Hunterkll@pool-71-167-241-254.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] [02:59:02] < aardvarq> !lastspoke _Digital [02:59:02] <@efneTI86> _Digital last uttered a word on #tcpa 50 minutes ago. [02:59:13] < i_c-Y> Sir_Lewk: lies! [02:59:23] < i_c-Y> i just use echo "code" > mycode.c ! [02:59:36] < Netham45> mm, primitive. [02:59:36] <+Sir_Lewk> lol [02:59:43] <+Sir_Lewk> I use butterflies :P [02:59:47] < Netham45> line based editors ftw [03:00:11] < Netham45> I use a fine point, magnetized needle on my HD platters. [03:00:14] <+Sir_Lewk> http://xkcd.com/378/ [03:00:22] < i_c-Y> yes, we've seen that xkcd [03:01:43] <+BrandonW> Not me. [03:01:45] <+BrandonW> I enjoyed that. [03:01:48] <+BrandonW> Assumer. [03:02:45] < Netham45> I havn't seen it [03:02:56] < Netham45> but I'm at a CLI, so all I can get is the alt text. :* [03:02:58] < Netham45> :( [03:03:32] < i_c-Y> BrandonW: fine, all of us who matter :) [03:03:39] < Netham45> someone creativelly convert it into ASCII and PM it to mE! [03:03:42] <+BrandonW> I matter far more than you do! [03:03:59] < Netham45> BrandonW>i_c-Y [03:04:24] < i_c-Y> lies, BrandonW [03:04:30] < i_c-Y> >.> [03:04:39] < i_c-Y> only in the calculator arena. [03:04:47] < i_c-Y> and the universal remote arena. [03:05:23] <+BrandonW> Keep going... [03:05:24] <+BrandonW> I'll wait. [03:05:35] < i_c-Y> thats it. [03:05:44] < i_c-Y> and on that note, back to my homework. [03:05:47] <+BrandonW> You forgot to mention...everything. [03:05:59] < i_c-Y> thats because if i said that, that would be lying. [03:06:56] < Netham45> jeez [03:07:00] < Netham45> I thought I had an ego... [03:07:23] <+Tari_> loser [03:07:31] <+Tari_> real men use aalib over serial terminals [03:08:02] <+BrandonW> Wicked, I crashed Calcsys by trying to search page 84h for 5555h. [03:08:14] <+Tari_> mmm, crashy [03:08:32] <+BrandonW> i_c-Y just sucks. [03:08:41] <+BrandonW> So it's fun to mess with him. [03:09:25] < i_c-Y> you wished i sucked, BrandonW. [03:09:34] <+BrandonW> You do, and I feel bad for you. [03:09:47] < i_c-Y> and now, i must stop ircing so i finish this homework :-| [03:09:57] <+BrandonW> See, I continue to distract. [03:10:09] -!- Sir_Lewk [~john@c-76-98-224-234.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] [03:10:09] -!- Sir_Lewk_ [~john@c-76-98-224-234.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [03:10:12] < i_c-Y> thats because you're the devil's right hand man. [03:11:49] <+BrandonW> I have no response to that. [03:13:52] < aardvarq> BrandonW works for randomist? [03:14:12] <+BrandonW> Netham's the devil, not Randomist. [03:17:34] -!- Sir_Lewk_ [~john@c-76-98-224-234.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [03:26:18] -!- Sir_Lewk [~john@c-76-98-224-234.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [03:26:19] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!! [03:26:29] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Sir_Lewk] by efneTI92 [03:26:34] -!- Sir_Lewk_ [~john@c-76-98-224-234.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [03:26:35] < ports> BW no one is the devil [03:26:49] <+Sir_Lewk> I AM THE DEVIL [03:27:19] <+BrandonW> See? [03:27:39] <+BrandonW> He hops from nick to nick. [03:27:59] <+BrandonW> Don't let him deceive you. [03:28:49] -!- Sir_Lewk_ [~john@c-76-98-224-234.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Leaving] [03:28:55] < i_c-Y> devil purged. [03:30:07] <+Sir_Lewk> wha??? what just happened? [03:30:15] -!- Randomist [~Randeimos@74.196.211.172] has joined #tcpa [03:30:23] < Randomist> I AM THE DEVIL [03:30:30] <+Sir_Lewk> " I AM THE DEVIL" <== I think someone hacked my box [03:30:30] <+BrandonW> See?! [03:30:34] <+BrandonW> It spreads! [03:30:36] <+Sir_Lewk> and Randomist's too :O [03:31:12] < i_c-Y> see? BrandonW couldnt have said mean things to me like i_c-Y just sucks. on his own! its the devil's work! [03:31:30] <+BrandonW> The devil's handiwork, it is! [03:32:27] <+BrandonW> The question is...where is he now? [03:33:07] -!- JoelS [~JSeligste@c-76-102-163-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [03:34:19] < ports> BrandonW, is the devils consort [03:34:40] <+BrandonW> 8 minutes ago you said no one is the devil. [03:34:44] <+BrandonW> Which is it, unbeliever? [03:34:46] <+BrandonW> I think YOU'RE him! [03:34:53] <+Tari_> http://imagechan.com/img/5118/America/ [03:34:55] <+Tari_> :) [03:34:57] <+Sir_Lewk> The question is...where is he now? [03:34:57] <+Sir_Lewk> * JoelS (~JSeligste@c-76-102-163-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #tcpa [03:35:04] <+Sir_Lewk> I think the answer is pretty clear [03:35:20] * Sir_Lewk preforms an exorcism on JoelS [03:36:17] < JoelS> Uh? [03:36:27] <+Sir_Lewk> sorry about that [03:36:37] <+Sir_Lewk> you where possessed by the devil [03:37:03] <+BrandonW> Sir_Lewk's talking crazy. [03:37:09] <+BrandonW> We're going to have to put him down. [03:37:10] < JoelS> Aparently I'm supposed to say this [03:37:12] < JoelS> I AM THE DEVIL [03:37:25] < JoelS> And.... nothing happened, that must be Randomist's joke [03:37:38] <+BrandonW> He stole it from me. [03:37:53] <+Sir_Lewk> actually, that was disturbingly accurate [03:38:11] < Randomist> I just came back and already I've done something wrong. :P [03:38:13] <+Sir_Lewk> " I AM THE DEVIL" " I AM THE DEVIL" [03:39:16] < TelSleep> looking for suggestions on x64 rootkit detectors and av scanners... [03:40:08] < Randomist> For the antivirus, AVG? Or NOD32? [03:40:21] < TelSleep> preferably free. [03:40:46] < Randomist> I know AVG is free... dunno 'bout NOD32... and Avast! is also free. [03:40:55] < TelSleep> cool, i'll look into those [03:41:14] <@Nikky> clam [03:42:27] < i_c-Y> nod32 isnt free [03:42:51] < i_c-Y> kaspersky has the most power, but it does cause a performance hit. [03:42:57] < i_c-Y> nod32 is light. [03:43:10] < i_c-Y> for free, you have Avast, AVG. [03:43:33] < i_c-Y> theres probably x64 rootkitrevealer from microsoft [03:43:50] < i_c-Y> or sysinternals [03:43:56] < TelSleep> no [03:44:15] < TelSleep> they won't port rkr's kernel drivers to x64 for "technical reasons" [03:44:19] < TelSleep> :( [03:44:28] < TelSleep> i've used F-secure's Backlight [03:44:37] < TelSleep> but was wondering if anyone knows about anything else [03:44:43] <+Sir_Lewk> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND [03:44:43] <+Sir_Lewk> 7122 lb353 25 0 73052 16m 9768 R 100 0.5 4:44.77 CELLSIM [03:44:47] <+Sir_Lewk> wowzer [03:45:07] < i_c-Y> Vice? [03:45:17] <+Sir_Lewk> my CS departments cluster [03:45:25] < TelSleep> also, I'd like to remind everyone that realvnc4 has a security bug in it that allows unautherized remote root access [03:45:49] <@Nikky> Good thing I don't use vnc [03:46:08] < TelSleep> mhmm [03:47:18] <+BrandonW> At least not RealVNC. [03:47:33] * Randomist hugs Nikky. [03:47:45] <@Nikky> I think I used tightvnc... once [03:48:39] -!- ryantmer [~ryantmer@64-247-139-3.ssimicro.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [03:48:39] <+Sir_Lewk> sounds kinky [03:49:48] <+BrandonW> http://imagechan.com/img/5092/Barrel%20roll/ [03:49:57] < Randomist> Experimented with it, and didn't like its methods? [03:49:58] <+BrandonW> I've been clicking them ever since Tari's link. [03:51:01] <@Nikky> haha [03:51:18] < Barrett_> In an AC circuit, what is the meaning of average and RMS average? How do they differ? [03:51:21] <+BrandonW> I'm still laughing at it, and I don't know if I should be. [03:52:36] < Randomist> WTF?: http://imagechan.com/img/5082/Weird%20Crime/ [03:53:19] <+Sir_Lewk> lolwut? [03:53:23] <+BrandonW> How in the hell is that a burglary? [03:53:49] < _Digital> !seen Cricket_B [03:53:49] <@efneTI86> Cricket_B (~CricketLo@cpe-72-129-89-238.socal.res.rr.com) was last seen quitting from #tiasm 1 hour, 43 minutes ago stating (Remote host closed the connection). [03:53:50] <+Sir_Lewk> I'd say some stoner accidentally killed his dog and that was the best story he could do [03:54:30] <+BrandonW> http://imagechan.com/img/5087/Nazi%20Dolphins/ [03:54:31] -!- Barrett_ is now known as Barrett [03:54:32] <+BrandonW> I have to stop. [03:54:59] < Randomist> http://imagechan.com/img/5080/Presents/ [03:56:46] <+Tari_> no, keep going [03:56:50] <+Tari_> you know you like it [03:58:00] -!- sense-non is now known as non-sense [03:58:03] <+Tari_> http://imagechan.com/img/1334/woody.jpg/ [03:58:15] < Randomist> Damn it, Tari_, now I can't stop looking browsing through these, either. [03:58:24] <+Tari_> :D [03:58:31] <+BrandonW> You can't complete finish a sentence either! [03:58:57] < i_c-Y> completely* [03:59:09] < Randomist> My mind dropped out at the end of 'looking' and backtracked a couple of milliseconds. [03:59:12] <+BrandonW> That was intentional, goofhead. [04:00:41] < _Digital> then its a grammatical error not not-finishing a [04:00:56] <+Sir_Lewk> http://imagechan.com/img/5068/Bohemain%20Rhapsody/ [04:02:07] -!- ryantmer [~ryantmer@64-247-139-3.ssimicro.com] has joined #tcpa [04:02:45] < Randomist> http://imagechan.com/img/1329/crisps.jpg/ [04:04:11] <+Tari_> I totally hijacked this channel [04:04:28] <+Sir_Lewk> This is the cancer that is killing #tcpa [04:05:15] <+BrandonW> Is that what we call it? [04:05:23] <+BrandonW> So you could say I hijack the channel all the time. [04:05:38] <+Tari_> http://imagechan.com/img/1875/pedo%20file.jpeg/ [04:05:57] <+Sir_Lewk> http://imagechan.com/img/1322/owned.jpg/ [04:07:26] < Randomist> http://imagechan.com/img/1304/old.jpg/ [04:07:49] -!- pr0me7heu [c6bd8003@198.189.128.3] has joined #tcpa [04:08:24] <+BrandonW> http://imagechan.com/img/5048/Baby%20Hitler/ I'm disturbed. [04:08:36] < pr0me7heu> How do I hide all of those subfiles that I don't need under 'user defined' in catalog so I can easily see the programs I want to run? Or is there a better way to organizae programs on the 89? [04:08:58] < Randomist> http://imagechan.com/img/1303/midgets.jpg/ [04:08:58] <+BrandonW> Functions show up in the catalog. [04:09:07] <+BrandonW> You see programs in the VAR-LINK menu. [04:09:54] < pr0me7heu> some programs it seems have 'subprograms' is there a way to hide some of them [04:10:10] < Randomist> One more -- http://imagechan.com/img/1296/buffering.jpg/ -- 'k, I'm done. [04:10:22] <+Sir_Lewk> http://imagechan.com/img/5044/Reverse/ [04:10:30] <+Sir_Lewk> sorry about that ;D [04:10:44] < Randomist> I see a kick in your future. [04:10:48] <+BrandonW> I'm not sure what you mean by "subprograms" in the catalog. [04:10:52] <+BrandonW> You don't see programs there. [04:11:24] <+BrandonW> !k Sir_Lewk shock picture [04:11:25] -!- Sir_Lewk was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [BrandonW: shock picture] [04:11:35] -!- Sir_Lewk [~john@c-76-98-224-234.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [04:11:37] < pr0me7heu> Well I guess I mean basic files rather than programs. [04:11:47] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Sir_Lewk] by efneTI85, efneTI89 [04:11:47] <+BrandonW> You mean functions, as I said. [04:11:47] <+Sir_Lewk> *reverse* shock picture ;P [04:11:48] < Randomist> Sir_Lewk, you owe me a dollar for that prediction! :P [04:11:53] <+BrandonW> You can't change what shows up in the catalog. [04:12:01] <+BrandonW> You could mess with them in the VAR-LINK menu, though. [04:12:04] * Sir_Lewk gives Randomist an internet dollar [04:12:45] < Randomist> Thank you. :) [04:13:45] <+BrandonW> You can move them to different folders, lock them, archive them... [04:13:47] <+BrandonW> That's about it. [04:13:59] <+TD-Linux> http://imagechan.com/img/1835/notice.jpeg/ < that's the only good one [04:14:11] < pr0me7heu> alright. [04:14:12] < pr0me7heu> thanks [04:14:13] -!- pr0me7heu [c6bd8003@198.189.128.3] has quit [Quit: http://chat.efnet.org ] [04:14:36] < Randomist> http://imagechan.com/img/1283/damn%20cat.jpg/ [04:14:41] * Randomist gets ready to be kicked. [04:15:11] <+BrandonW> !k Randomist nudity [04:15:12] -!- Randomist was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [BrandonW: nudity] [04:15:18] -!- Randomist [~Randeimos@74.196.211.172] has joined #tcpa [04:15:33] < Randomist> Yay, I financially turned off Auto-Join. [04:15:36] <+BrandonW> I'm going to bed. Next one gets looked at by someone willing to ban. [04:15:57] < _Digital> I can kick, not sure about ban [04:16:15] <+BrandonW> If you can log into the bots, I'd say you can. [04:16:26] -!- TD-Linux [~wheeeeeee@66-188-199-114.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] [04:16:39] < _Digital> can't remember how and I'm busy with other stuff for once ;) [04:18:34] -!- ryantmer [~ryantmer@64-247-139-3.ssimicro.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 369 seconds] [04:19:24] -!- patz2001 [~Patrick@c-69-247-152-128.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [04:19:34] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v patz2001] by efneTI81 [04:21:22] -!- ryantmer [~ryantmer@64-247-139-3.ssimicro.com] has joined #tcpa [04:26:05] < Randomist> <3 http://imagechan.com/img/307/Roflcopter/ [04:32:05] < Barrett> JoelS: there is stuff wrong with facebook [04:32:12] < JoelS> Barrett: mid push [04:33:13] < Barrett> I'm assuming that "mid push" means that there is a reason for it (I've never heard that phrase before) [04:34:01] <@Nikky> I think he's referring to what you frequently do, Barrett [04:34:10] <@Nikky> Release halfway finished software into production [04:34:17] <@Nikky> to force yourself to finish it [04:34:20] <@Nikky> :) [04:34:27] < Barrett> oh [04:34:36] < Barrett> well yes, I do that... but should facebook do that? [04:34:46] <@Nikky> maybe they're as lazy as us [04:36:54] < Barrett> maybe what JoelS is trying to say is that some of the files are in the process of copying over still [04:36:55] <+Sir_Lewk> http://imagechan.com/img/4958/Console chart/ [04:36:59] -!- patz2001 [~Patrick@c-69-247-152-128.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #tcpa [] [04:37:17] < JoelS> Nikky: thats not true :-) [04:37:22] < JoelS> Barrett: whats wrong with fbook"? [04:37:35] < Barrett> any page that has anything to do with friends is not loading [04:37:40] < Barrett> Error while loading page from friends [04:37:45] < Barrett> There are still a few kinks Facebook and the makers of friends are trying to iron out. We appreciate your patience as we try to fix these issues. Your problem has been logged - if it persists, please come back in a few days. Thanks! [04:37:53] <@Nikky> Appearentally my nude pics of me snorting rock were public for a while [04:37:55] < Randomist> 'Parently all social networking sites are crap. [04:38:26] < Barrett> also, about half an hour ago, one of my friends (who has 300 and something friends on the BYU network) was only displaying 4 friends on her profile page that were a part of the BYU network [04:38:47] <@Nikky> rotfl [04:38:51] <@Nikky> nobody likes her anymore! [04:39:10] -!- Randomist [~Randeimos@74.196.211.172] has quit [Quit: Contorted angel, what do you want from me \ ... \ Nothing is good for you...] [04:39:42] < Barrett> ah... JoelS: the subdomain that I was browsing was apps.facebook.com... taking off the apps fixed it [04:40:13] < JoelS> hm okay [04:41:04] < Barrett> but I never manually entered a URL.. that I can remember... so that's still kind of weird... didn't it always automatically forward you to your network subdomain? [04:41:34] < ports> Nikky, you are op? [04:42:00] < Barrett> of course not. do you see an @ in front of his name? [04:42:16] -!- mode/#tcpa [-o Nikky] by Nikky [04:42:16] <+Nikky> what are you talking about [04:42:21] < ports> BrandonW, I wasn't talking to you. [04:42:36] <+BrandonW> Okay? [04:42:38] <+BrandonW> I don't care. [04:42:44] <+BrandonW> I have no idea what you're talking about. [04:42:56] < ports> But you keep talking. [04:43:12] <+BrandonW> I can talk and not care. [04:43:15] < Barrett> did you hear him BrandonW? back off. he wasn't talking to you! [04:43:25] <+BrandonW> But now I'm talking to him. [04:43:57] < ports> Barrett, he's an ass hat. don't bother [04:43:57] < JoelS> i believe network subdomains are gone [04:44:13] < ports> JoelS, i hate facebook apps =/ [04:44:18] <+Nikky> I turned them off [04:44:23] < ports> i still get so many damn invites to add them to my profile [04:44:24] <+Nikky> irritating little thigns [04:44:29] < JoelS> ports: okay. [04:44:36] <+Nikky> BUT PORTS [04:44:43] <+Nikky> don't you love how it's like myspace!!?!>!>! [04:44:57] < ports> i dont even know how to send my friends messages on myspace [04:45:05] < JoelS> Nikky: opensocial launched on myspace this week - wait until *they* have apps haha [04:45:08] -!- Netsplit ircd.choopa.net <-> irc.choopa.ca quits: +Swivel, glk [04:45:08] < Barrett> JoelS: my theory of what happened is that an app had a relative link to the profile page of one of my friends, which I probably clicked and continued to browse the site as usual [04:45:14] < ports> i have met some nice women that sell their bodies for sex on myspace [04:45:30] < JoelS> Barrett: yes, that would be a bug , hmm [04:46:56] * ports makes BW breathe sewer gas [04:47:08] < Barrett> JoelS: actually, even the main navigation from any app gives apps.facebook.com links, which give that error page [04:47:15] < JoelS> Okay thanks [04:47:34] < ports> anyone have an iphone? [04:48:02] <+Nikky> hell no [04:48:08] < ports> i know a guy that wrote a facebook module for the iphone.. it keeps track of your location and updates it on facebook with google maps [04:48:09] < Barrett> my boss does [04:48:11] < Barrett> so that's one person who has one [04:48:29] < Barrett> my boss's boss [04:48:41] <+Nikky> (is a hooker) [04:48:49] < ports> in bed [04:48:56] -!- Netsplit over, joins: glk, +Swivel [04:49:09] < JoelS> Barrett: you're right, thanks - fixing now [04:49:12] < JoelS> brb, fixing [04:49:23] < aardvarq> hatchoo [04:49:32] < ports> damnit [04:49:35] <+Nikky> Too bad prime38 isn't here [04:49:36] < ports> its going to rain all day tomorrow [04:49:41] <+Nikky> he loves to yell at JoelS [04:49:52] < JoelS> Heh [04:49:54] < ports> Nikky, yes. it is too bad. he's annoying [04:50:28] < Barrett> I wonder if there's a rewards program for finding bugs on facebook [04:50:32] < Barrett> that's like the 5th one [04:50:46] < JoelS> youre not the only one that reported it to me [04:50:48] <+Nikky> It's too bad the classes section of facebook is an app now... [04:50:52] < JoelS> 2 other channels noted it [04:51:05] <+Nikky> I'm not adding it simply because then I'd have to actually open up my profile to the API :( [04:51:16] <+chronomex> Nikky: what's this issue? [04:51:36] * Nikky gives chronomex a big slobbery lick [04:51:44] <+chronomex> how 'bout a liNk? [04:54:22] <+Nikky> www.randyneatherlin.com [04:54:30] <+chronomex> not that one :P [04:54:32] -!- tr1p1ea [~me@124-254-101-253-dsl.ispone.net.au] has joined #tcpa [04:54:56] <+Nikky> oh [04:55:02] <+Nikky> Hi tr1p1ea :) [04:59:56] <+BrandonW> ports is an asshat. [05:00:49] < ports> the iron man trailer is really cool [05:01:06] <+BrandonW> What makes you say that? [05:01:36] < ports> most high is elohim [05:01:55] <+BrandonW> That makes you say the Iron Man trailer is really cool? [05:02:04] <+BrandonW> "most high is elohim"? [05:02:11] < ports> they hunt for sport [05:02:19] <+BrandonW> You make no sense. [05:03:20] <+BrandonW> As usual. [05:03:47] < ports> so that means i'll have to pay double rent for two months :/ [05:03:59] <+BrandonW> Naturally... [05:04:05] <+BrandonW> Does anyone understand what he's saying? [05:05:02] < ports> hunted meat is better than store meat [05:05:16] <+BrandonW> I say we kill him. [05:06:06] < ports> no vowel accent marks [05:07:17] <+Nikky> youtube has made rickrolls non embeddable [05:07:19] <+Nikky> asswhores [05:07:29] <+Nikky> good thing google video doesn't pull that shit [05:08:59] < Barrett> Nikky: did you read about my rick roll idea? [05:09:03] <+Nikky> Nope [05:09:19] <+Nikky> unless you were the one who said to forward all traffic to a rickroll [05:09:23] < Barrett> it would only work if you can change someone's dns stuff [05:09:25] < Barrett> yes [05:09:33] < Barrett> but it would be more clever than that [05:09:37] < ports> she got her own house [05:09:43] < Barrett> it would only be youtube, and only /watch URLs [05:10:10] <+Nikky> haha [05:10:13] <+Nikky> great [05:10:50] < ports> if you aint on sit down [05:15:37] -!- Michael_V [michael@ip70-162-254-137.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #tcpa [05:15:47] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Michael_V] by efneTI89 [05:17:30] < ports> hi MV [05:18:11] <+Michael_V> salutatoins [05:18:13] <+Michael_V> *salutations [05:18:20] <+Michael_V> oh no...never good to start out your conversation with a typo [05:18:27] < ports> wow 11 minutes to install adobe updates [05:18:34] * chronomex hands Michael_V a spraycan of typo-b-gone [05:18:44] * Michael_V inverts the can and supercools his CPU [05:18:45] * chronomex vanishes like M_V's typos [05:18:59] < tr1p1ea> ... iron man looks incredibly dodgy [05:19:00] < ports> lol [05:19:08] < ports> tr1p1ea, why does it look dodgy? [05:19:19] * Michael_V solicits recommendations for a good laptop sleeve [05:19:29] < ports> he's drinking scotch in the back of a humvee watching bombs go off while listening to acdc [05:19:33] <+Michael_V> and a really small one as my laptop is 10.3" x 9.1" x 0.8" (at the thickest) [05:19:37] < ports> he is living the life [05:19:52] < ports> Michael_V, what kind of laptop [05:19:55] <+Michael_V> the life of a soldier in Iraq? [05:20:00] <+Michael_V> Toshiba Portege subnotebook [05:20:09] < ports> no.. tony stark in iron man preview [05:20:16] <+Michael_V> When I bought it, I sought the absolute smallest and lightest laptop I could find [05:20:25] <+Michael_V> Now I find all the neoprene laptop sleeves are too large :P [05:20:26] < ports> Michael_V, check dealnews.com a 13" sleeve might work [05:20:35] <+Michael_V> the 13.3" sleeves are kind of big [05:20:40] < ports> oh [05:20:40] <+Michael_V> there's too much room in the longest dimension [05:20:45] <+Michael_V> it'd be a last choice [05:20:58] < ports> right [05:21:02] < ports> is there a 10" sleeve? [05:21:27] <+Michael_V> not that I can find [05:21:35] <+Michael_V> I hate how laptop sleeves are a polluted search query [05:21:52] <+Michael_V> it's just one of those things where you get so many results from so many sites selling things and such [05:22:05] < ports> youre better off linking from dealnews [05:22:15] < ports> find the 13", and see if that retailer has a smaller size [05:22:31] <+Michael_V> sure [05:22:40] <+Michael_V> I was hoping someone would perhaps have a recommendation but I'll keep looking [05:23:23] < ports> sorry. i have a 14.1" .. i bought my sleeve on dealnews for $7 [05:23:36] <+Michael_V> there are some 12" ones but I only find some girly designer ones so far [05:23:37] <+Michael_V> for macbooks [05:23:42] -!- ports [ports@76.206.18.62] has quit [Quit: You know, it's the first time someone suggested I go in that direction!] [05:23:42] <+Michael_V> (and expensive) [05:24:04] -!- ports [~ports@76.206.18.62] has joined #tcpa [05:25:36] -!- Barrett [~chavez@76.8.217.50] has quit [] [05:26:16] < ports> megan fox is really hot [05:26:36] <+Michael_V> I never heard of her...nor do I want to [05:26:42] <+Michael_V> For only my graphing calculators are really hot [05:26:46] <+Michael_V> And that is the way it should be [05:26:51] < ports> Michael_V, the girl in transformers [05:27:40] <+Michael_V> I don't know what you're talking about [05:29:11] < ports> no fun [05:31:02] <+Sir_Lewk> Michael_V is here! [05:31:10] <+Michael_V> hip hooray! [05:31:13] <+Michael_V> we've got atomic energy! [05:31:17] <+Michael_V> it could mean a better world for all! [05:32:45] -!- Netsplit ircd.he.net <-> irc.Prison.NET quits: +Merthsoft, TelSleep [05:32:45] -!- Telroth` [darthandro@75-17-94-38.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa [05:33:02] < ports> anyone used foldershare? [05:33:30] -!- Sir_Lewk [~john@c-76-98-224-234.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [05:33:42] < tr1p1ea> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNXxdYCONCI [05:37:43] -!- rivereye[ [~rivereye@c-71-205-94-72.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [05:39:51] -!- Sir_Lewk [~john@c-76-98-224-234.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [05:39:52] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!! [05:40:04] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Sir_Lewk] by efneTI81 [05:40:17] <+Sir_Lewk> I have returned [05:40:22] <+chronomex> that's good [05:40:38] <+Sir_Lewk> how does one open a wine bottle without a corkscrew? [05:41:04] < i_c-Y> you could rip out the cork, or scrape it out. [05:41:05] <+chronomex> bang the neck against the edge of a table [05:41:11] <+chronomex> that'll break the top off [05:41:15] < i_c-Y> power drill [05:41:17] -!- _Digital [~DC@pool-96-240-47-219.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [_Digital] [05:41:42] <+Sir_Lewk> I'm way to sober to think this out... [05:44:44] * Michael_V agrees with i_c-Y [05:44:46] <+Michael_V> drill! [05:44:52] <+Michael_V> although one shouldn't be opening wine bottles :) [05:46:16] <+Sir_Lewk> sweet, got the little bugger out [05:46:49] <+Sir_Lewk> *nothing* is better than a cold glass of red wine at 1:45 AM :D [05:47:31] <+Michael_V> I'd argue that death is better [05:47:54] <+Sir_Lewk> don't like wine? [05:48:13] <+Michael_V> I've never drank any alcohol so I couldn't tell you :) [05:48:16] <+Sir_Lewk> ah [05:48:33] <+Michael_V> I've never tasted coffee either [05:48:36] <+Michael_V> although that's by accident [05:48:47] <+Sir_Lewk> I hate being drunk and sh*tty drinks like beer, but a glass or two of wine is excellent [05:48:51] <+Sir_Lewk> ... [05:48:59] <+Sir_Lewk> you have never had coffee? [05:49:04] < i_c-Y> liar [05:49:13] <+Michael_V> I absolutely hate the smell [05:49:23] <+Michael_V> I don't understand why everyone else loves the smell even if they hate the drink [05:49:24] <+Sir_Lewk> tastes worse ;) [05:49:33] <+Michael_V> I've never wanted to taste it because the smell repulses me [05:49:34] < i_c-Y> did you have wine at church? [05:49:47] <+Sir_Lewk> I love the taste, not fond of the smell [05:49:51] <+Michael_V> no [05:50:03] < i_c-Y> hm [05:50:11] < i_c-Y> you are a strange, strange fellow, Michael_V [05:50:14] <+Michael_V> I know [05:50:22] <+Michael_V> well at this point it's a point of pride and I'll never sip coffee [05:50:29] <+Michael_V> but it's been entirely accidental [05:50:30] <+Sir_Lewk> haha [05:50:39] <+Michael_V> in any case, even if I liked the taste, I'd never drink it [05:50:43] <+Michael_V> I'm not that sort of person [05:50:45] <+Michael_V> I drink water [05:50:45] <+Sir_Lewk> that I can understand I suppose [05:50:53] * i_c-Y spikes Michael_V 's (insert liquid he drinks here) with coffee [05:50:55] <+Sir_Lewk> not even soda? [05:51:05] <+Michael_V> I have no moral aversion to trying coffee but I'd rather have lived a life without tasting it :) [05:51:09] <+Michael_V> especially since the smell is awful [05:51:24] <+Michael_V> I've tried soda in elementary school when they had holiday parties [05:51:31] <+Michael_V> awful [05:51:33] <+Sir_Lewk> have you ever had coffee icecream? [05:51:38] <+Michael_V> but I wouldn't drink it anyway [05:51:39] <+Michael_V> no [05:51:50] < i_c-Y> Michael_V also probably believes in no sex except for procreation after marriage too. [05:51:53] <+Michael_V> I would only eat vanilla ice cream [05:51:54] <+Sir_Lewk> so... you're a no caffeine guy essentially? [05:51:56] <+Michael_V> of course [05:51:57] <+Michael_V> yes [05:52:21] < i_c-Y> damn it, Michael_V , you must have some deep dark really sick vices [05:52:45] <+Michael_V> well I like putting underaged midgets into prostitution rings [05:52:45] <+Sir_Lewk> wow, and I took pride in the fact that I never did drugs or smoked [05:52:50] <+Michael_V> and caning stray dogs [05:52:52] <+Sir_Lewk> LMAO [05:53:27] <+Michael_V> I also enjoy shooting small animals and taking photographs of people having heart attacks [05:53:56] < i_c-Y> hm. do you help them with the heart attacks? [05:54:25] <+Sir_Lewk> assist someone having a heart attack? I think the heart attack kind of has everything under control :P [05:54:34] <+Michael_V> I dream of having a sexual relationship with Hillary Clinton and Chelsea Clinton and I murder transients on alternate Wednesdays. [05:54:35] <+chronomex> !qadd I also enjoy shooting small animals and taking photographs of people having heart attacks [05:54:37] <@efneTI86> Quote 1234 added [05:54:50] < i_c-Y> conclusion: Michael_V is a serial killer. [05:54:51] <+chronomex> :O look at that number! [05:54:52] <+Sir_Lewk> evil chronomex ;) [05:54:56] <+chronomex> !q [05:54:56] <@efneTI86> 816: girls become boring after a while | I want to date you but we're sepereated | You'll find someone [Added: smart at 2006/12/07 18:49] [05:55:02] <+Michael_V> I put potatoes in bus exhaust pipes and enjoy driving backwards through stop signs. [05:55:09] <+chronomex> lol [05:55:28] < ports> ooh [05:55:32] <+Michael_V> Every once in a while, for sheer pleasure I'll scale a skyscraper and drop frozen chickens on people's heads. [05:55:33] < ports> i lost 7 lbs. [05:55:36] < ports> im gunna have me a cake [05:55:50] <+Sir_Lewk> 8 lb cake? [05:55:51] <+chronomex> ports: a 7 pound cake? [05:55:57] < i_c-Y> the cake is a lie! [05:56:00] <+Michael_V> but no, no major vices [05:56:01] < ports> 6 oz [05:56:01] <+Michael_V> :P [05:56:15] < i_c-Y> lies. everyone has a vice. a deep dark secret. [05:56:29] <+Sir_Lewk> well, if you ever try soda again, make sure it's orange soda [05:56:31] <+Michael_V> well I can be horribly antisocial at times [05:56:36] <+Sir_Lewk> most excellent drink ever [05:56:41] < i_c-Y> hm [05:56:52] < i_c-Y> possible vices: Michael_V is a terrorist or a serial killer [05:56:56] <+Sir_Lewk> I know the feeling Michael_V [05:57:15] < i_c-Y> brblolzsleep [05:57:34] <+Sir_Lewk> I have the tendency to assume everyone around me is an idiot and act like a jerk to them [05:57:46] < ports> i dont like orange soda [05:57:52] <+Sir_Lewk> communist [05:58:03] <+Sir_Lewk> how can you not like orange soda? [05:58:13] <+Sir_Lewk> it is the most pure flavor in the universe! [05:58:18] <+Sir_Lewk> and carbonated! [05:58:25] <+Sir_Lewk> ah, there we go [05:58:27] < ports> no caffeine [05:58:34] <+Sir_Lewk> do you drink seltzer Michael_V? [05:58:46] <+Sir_Lewk> just plain carbonated water [05:58:48] < ports> Sir_Lewk, i do. but not alone [05:59:05] <+Sir_Lewk> I just drink seltzer straight [05:59:10] < ports> why? [05:59:13] <+Sir_Lewk> several liters a day usually [05:59:20] <+Sir_Lewk> it's so excellent! [05:59:27] < ports> meh [05:59:32] <+Sir_Lewk> at first it's just weird, then it grows on you [05:59:33] < ports> i like whiskey and soda [05:59:48] <+Michael_V> Sir_Lewk: no [05:59:55] <+Michael_V> my grandfather does and I think he's a sicko for it [06:00:02] <+Sir_Lewk> I once walked 2 miles in the middle of the night to a grocery store to get seltzer [06:00:10] < ports> Sir_Lewk, wow [06:00:19] < ports> Sir_Lewk, why dont you get one of those bottles to make your own? [06:00:20] <+Sir_Lewk> it's an acquired taste to be sure [06:00:26] <+Sir_Lewk> not the same :S [06:00:38] < ports> its different... but good for 2am [06:00:39] <+Michael_V> I would have made a great 19th century religious figure [06:00:44] <+Sir_Lewk> something's in the plastic bottles I'm sure [06:00:49] <+Michael_V> like the ones who required fastidious diets [06:00:54] <+Michael_V> abstaining from all sorts of things [06:01:01] <+Sir_Lewk> are you religious? [06:01:08] <+Michael_V> yes [06:01:11] <+Michael_V> hmm [06:01:13] <+Michael_V> Sylvester Graham [06:01:15] <+Michael_V> that's who I'm thinking of [06:01:17] <+Michael_V> I could have been like him [06:01:36] <+chronomex> the crackers dude? [06:01:42] <+Michael_V> yes [06:01:42] <+Sir_Lewk> nice [06:01:49] <+Michael_V> "Sylvester Graham was an American Presbyterian minister (ordained in 1826) who preached on temperance and stressed whole-wheat flour and vegetarian diets." [06:01:51] <+chronomex> woot [06:01:53] <+Sir_Lewk> I love Graham Crackers [06:02:07] < ports> Sir_Lewk, how old are you [06:02:14] <+Sir_Lewk> 19 [06:02:18] < ports> oh [06:02:29] < ports> when you turn 21. try whiskey and soda.. great drink [06:03:05] < ports> and tonic water on ice is decent [06:03:09] <+Sir_Lewk> will do [06:03:26] -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@p308a.tae.cooper.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 360 seconds] [06:03:26] <+Sir_Lewk> blech, I'll pass on tonic water [06:03:36] < ports> why? [06:03:46] <+Sir_Lewk> accidentally had some a few years ago, thought it was a seltzer bottle :S [06:03:46] < ports> its soda water with some flavoring [06:03:53] < ports> explode on you? [06:04:05] < ports> there's a trick to opening the bottle [06:04:09] <+Sir_Lewk> tasted very much not like seltzer [06:04:19] <+Michael_V> yes, don't open the bottle [06:04:21] <+Michael_V> that's the trick [06:04:33] <+Michael_V> instead take it back to the source and bring an axe with you [06:04:35] < ports> its a quick open/close [06:04:36] <+Michael_V> and smash the barrels [06:04:38] < ports> then reopen [06:05:05] <+Sir_Lewk> it's not alcoholic Michael_V ;) [06:05:18] <+Sir_Lewk> just bitterish [06:05:21] <+Michael_V> oh it's not? [06:05:35] <+Sir_Lewk> ports, yeah, used to doing that from seltzer [06:06:05] <+Michael_V> strange [06:06:11] <+Michael_V> I always thought tonic water was alcoholic [06:06:19] <+Sir_Lewk> has quinine [06:06:24] <+Sir_Lewk> which I think is just a salt [06:06:50] <+Michael_V> When cold and sinuses get you down, just call on bromo-quinine! [06:07:00] <+Michael_V> Relief is fastest all around, just call on bromo-quinine! [06:07:08] <+Sir_Lewk> lol [06:07:17] < ports> yeah [06:07:28] < ports> tonic water is basically seltzer water with some lemon lime flavoring [06:07:34] <+Sir_Lewk> I always preferred menthol cough drops [06:07:39] <+Michael_V> http://www.oldtimeradiofans.com/old_radio_commercials/Bromo_Quinine.mp3 [06:08:15] <+Sir_Lewk> eww mp3 [06:08:22] <+Michael_V> if I had a nickel for every random quote or phrase stored in my head... [06:08:33] -!- _Digital [~DC@pool-96-240-47-219.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa [06:08:40] <+Sir_Lewk> VLC to the rescue [06:08:40] < ports> hrm [06:08:50] < _Digital> plausible causes for poor cell phone reception [06:08:51] <+Sir_Lewk> lol [06:08:55] < ports> Windows Vista Professional, uptime 1day 3hrs 10mins 30secs [06:09:04] <+Sir_Lewk> a record? [06:09:05] < _Digital> metal film on window for heat insulation [06:09:08] < ports> no [06:09:11] < _Digital> nah, that can't be it [06:09:24] < ports> and i like to drink [06:09:38] <+Michael_V> You like to drink menthol cough drops? [06:09:43] < _Digital> how about enough electronics and peripherals (firewire) that could give you cancer [06:09:44] <+Sir_Lewk> 02:09:38 up 88 days, 6:23, 1 user, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 [06:09:46] < _Digital> probably [06:09:55] < ports> i melt my cough drops into crystal meth [06:09:56] <+Sir_Lewk> Michael_V, no, for when I have a cold :P [06:10:08] <+Michael_V> I don't think bromo quinine is sold anymore :) [06:10:21] <+Michael_V> I consume raw vegetables and fruits all the time :) [06:10:23] <+Michael_V> to prevent colds [06:10:32] <+chronomex> ports: meth drops? [06:10:35] <+Sir_Lewk> I used to swim and my schools pool had *very* poor air quality [06:10:39] <+Michael_V> I drink blended concoctions that scare most people :) [06:10:51] <+Sir_Lewk> menthol cough drops save my life numerous occasions :) [06:11:57] <+Sir_Lewk> crap... [06:12:04] < ports> hrm [06:12:06] <+Sir_Lewk> my router at school went down... [06:12:15] <+Sir_Lewk> can't restart it for a week :S [06:12:19] < ports> how long does it take to transfer 1.5 gigabytes at 400 kbytes/sec [06:12:21] <+Michael_V> When cold and stresses get you down, just call on bromo-quinine! [06:12:27] <+Michael_V> Try some on your router since it's down! [06:12:33] <+Sir_Lewk> lol [06:12:46] <+Sir_Lewk> If I could ssh into it I would ;) [06:12:54] < ports> about an hour [06:13:01] < _Digital> yup [06:13:32] < _Digital> with 5 minutes and change [06:13:44] < ports> yep [06:13:57] < _Digital> for 64.99 a month, should I go with a 15/15 fiber connection ? [06:14:13] < _Digital> it'll only cost me 25 a month [06:14:21] < ports> http://leasticoulddo.com/ [06:14:35] < ports> _Digital, yes [06:14:41] < ports> are you sharing the cost with someone else? [06:14:56] -!- Michael_V [michael@ip70-162-254-137.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [flay that funky mushroom, bok choy] [06:14:57] <+chronomex> heh "sharing" [06:15:15] < Netham45> can anyone here help me with a computer issue? [06:15:20] < _Digital> my folks will pitch in 15 a month, brother and I split the rest [06:15:23] < ports> Netham45, youre banned [06:15:25] <+chronomex> no, he'll just waltz over to the neighbors' terminal box with his optical soldering iron ... [06:15:29] <+nicolas> Netham45: easy, turn it off and throw it away! [06:15:44] < Netham45> ports, banned? [06:15:47] < Netham45> I think I wouldn [06:15:52] < Netham45> wouldn't be here if I was [06:15:53] < ports> hrm [06:15:59] -!- ports [~ports@76.206.18.62] has left #tcpa [reason] [06:15:59] -!- ports [~ports@76.206.18.62] has joined #tcpa [06:16:05] -!- TrN [9906947XB7@2001:4830:167c:1:d46e:a2ca:3e38:1c3c] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] [06:16:22] < ports> [NOTICE] [1:16:18am] [efneTI86- 1. aardvarq (Jan 26 22:52 -- EXPIRES IN 1 DAY): [L] Netham's got a 7d ban for his actions this morning involving clones and proxies. Watch out for netham proxies impersonating others, ban them, and .+host netham45 them so we can remember them. ] [06:16:28] < _Digital> gotta check to see if verizon will get pissed if I start running a webserver on that kind of a line though [06:16:36] < Netham45> ports: that's from Jan. 265h [06:16:39] < Netham45> 26th* [06:16:54] < ports> wtf [06:16:55] <+chronomex> hahahaha [06:16:58] <+Sir_Lewk> Winston's tastes good like a cigarette should! [06:17:04] < ports> why does the bot keep sending me that every 10 minutes? [06:17:04] < _Digital> you didn't realize that ports? [06:17:07] < _Digital> holy crap man [06:17:09] < Netham45> haha [06:17:17] < _Digital> its every hour the bot send it [06:17:25] < _Digital> and its because you only READ and don't ERASE [06:17:28] < aardvarq> 10 minutes? I thought I set it to 10 times a minute. [06:17:34] <+chronomex> 10x/min?!? [06:17:35] < ports> _Digital, shutup [06:17:37] <+chronomex> lolol [06:17:43] < _Digital> ;) [06:17:44] < Netham45> my Vista PC gets to the point right before it displays the Windows orb on boot, when it is displaying the cursor, then it just stops progressing. I can still access an Apache server running on it, but I can't do anything locally, asides from move my mouse around. Does anyone have any ideas on what may be causing this/how I can fix it? [06:17:48] < ports> ive never seen that inbox thing before today [06:17:50] < _Digital> AND THEY CALL ME A N00B ;) [06:17:57] <+chronomex> bots suck [06:18:01] < ports> i didnt even have a bot password [06:18:09] < _Digital> Netham45, you're using VIsta, thas your problem [06:18:19] < ports> and it keeps showing me that same note over and over today [06:18:21] < Netham45> _Digital: you're using Gentoo, you have no room to talk. [06:18:27] < _Digital> I'm using OS X [06:18:38] < ports> i gentooed all over her face [06:18:42] < _Digital> I want to play wiht Gentoo, but I get distracted [06:18:47] < Netham45> ah [06:18:48] < Netham45> well [06:18:56] < Netham45> I want to play half-life [06:18:56] <+Sir_Lewk> if you want to use Apache then get yourself a real OS [06:19:12] < Netham45> actually, I had no idea the apache server was there [06:19:19] < Netham45> some shitty Perl program installed it without telling me [06:19:25] < _Digital> suggestions on using apache with what flavor of linux? debian? redhat? [06:19:49] < ports> ubuntu is what i use [06:19:51] <+chronomex> I use Debian and I like it quite well [06:19:59] < ports> it works nice for all my academic stuff [06:20:02] <+Sir_Lewk> debian, like ubuntu - the unstable shite [06:20:24] < _Digital> what the idea behind debian [06:20:28] <+Sir_Lewk> fedora is win for desktops though [06:20:32] < Netham45> I have Ubuntu on my PC, because I had a spare Ubuntu CD. [06:20:34] < Netham45> on my server* [06:21:25] <+Sir_Lewk> THOSE FSCKING BASTARDS [06:21:30] < Netham45> chronomex: why did I get a CTCP Version from you? [06:21:48] <+Sir_Lewk> idiots at IRT reset all the ethernet jacks in my dorm [06:21:49] < aardvarq> my command-line machines are all debian, and graphical machines are all ubuntu [06:22:01] <+chronomex> Netham45: dunno, wasn't me [06:22:08] <+Sir_Lewk> THATS why I can't get into my router! [06:22:13] <+chronomex> sweet [06:22:49] <+Sir_Lewk> WTF DO THEY DO THAT?!? [06:23:47] <+chronomex> they're members of http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2259542971 obviously [06:24:00] <+Sir_Lewk> agh, bastards [06:24:10] <+Sir_Lewk> they probably killed the power too [06:24:15] * chronomex nods [06:24:18] <+Sir_Lewk> kill my uptime... [06:24:22] <+chronomex> you need a more resilient setup [06:24:34] <+Sir_Lewk> where am I to get that? [06:24:40] < _Digital> buy a few UPS's [06:24:43] <+Sir_Lewk> I'm a poor ass college student [06:24:49] <+Sir_Lewk> and that won [06:24:56] <+Sir_Lewk> 't fix the ethernet [06:25:10] < _Digital> cantenna [06:25:41] <+chronomex> two [06:25:42] <+Sir_Lewk> true, Philly does have a ton of WEP encrypted APs... [06:25:59] <+Sir_Lewk> crack them in 5 minutes tops [06:26:46] <+Sir_Lewk> like someone never told an entire city about WPA or something [06:28:17] <+chronomex> hah [06:28:18] < _Digital> like someone never tolkd americans about security [06:28:23] <+chronomex> too cheap for wpa [06:28:45] <+chronomex> that shit costs money [06:30:00] <+Sir_Lewk> there's a kid on my univ network who has his entire HD shared [06:30:20] <+Sir_Lewk> he keeps scans of all his financial papers on it [06:30:42] < _Digital> doubtful he shared it. Probably a defautl config [06:30:43] <+Sir_Lewk> we've told him about it, he just accuses us of hacking him [06:30:48] < _Digital> lol [06:31:01] <+Sir_Lewk> dunno, it's pretty bad though [06:31:36] < _Digital> who should I got raid in the fast food industry [06:31:41] < _Digital> I already cleaned out the fridge [06:31:48] <+chronomex> send it to mars [06:31:56] <+Sir_Lewk> taco bell [06:32:05] <+Sir_Lewk> really cheap for the amount of food you get [06:32:17] <+Sir_Lewk> good weight to dollar ratio [06:32:38] * aardvarq buys Sir_Lewk a bale of hay. [06:32:41] < _Digital> adn food that can kill a human being [06:32:45] <+Sir_Lewk> sweet [06:32:58] * _Digital lights said bale on fire [06:33:07] <+Sir_Lewk> if you buy something other than the burritos you're fine there [06:33:49] < _Digital> got del taco, in-in-out (only known in california arizona and nevada), and jack in teh box, oh carls jr too [06:34:20] <+Sir_Lewk> beef supreme chalupas [06:34:23] <+Sir_Lewk> excellent [06:34:44] < _Digital> unsually, get teh nacho cheese one, might as well mix it up [06:34:53] < _Digital> then again what can toxic hell do to me? [06:35:03] <+Nikky> _Digital: for a server? probably fedora or debian [06:35:09] <+Nikky> Those are the two most popular choices [06:35:17] <+Sir_Lewk> I suggest Debian for servers [06:35:24] < _Digital> why [06:35:32] <+Sir_Lewk> Fedora is more maintenance intensive I find [06:35:33] < _Digital> for either, I'd liek to know why [06:35:47] <+Sir_Lewk> fine for a desktop but I prefer my servers to be "set and forget" [06:35:48] <+Nikky> debian is the most mature deb based OS [06:35:59] <+Nikky> and fedora most mature yum based [06:36:06] < _Digital> difference being? [06:36:09] * Sir_Lewk pukes on yum [06:36:15] <+Nikky> one uses deb, the other, yum [06:36:23] < _Digital> what are those [06:36:28] <+Sir_Lewk> well, deb and rpm [06:36:33] <+Sir_Lewk> apt-get and yum [06:36:41] <+Nikky> now Sir_Lewk here [06:36:44] <+Nikky> is a fedoratard [06:36:56] < _Digital> I read a wiki on both and neighther said anything about that [06:37:08] <+Nikky> just go with debian [06:37:12] <+Sir_Lewk> ya [06:37:27] <+Nikky> or SCO Unix :) [06:37:43] <+Sir_Lewk> at the very least, Fedora 9 is coming in about a month so you'll just have to update it then to stay up to date [06:37:56] <+Sir_Lewk> Debian updates, what? every 4 years? [06:37:59] < _Digital> I'm serving HD video locally as well as music. I will probably mirror or move website stuff to teh box as well [06:38:29] < _Digital> the box will be responsible for transcoding the mpeg-2 transport streams to h264 btw [06:38:40] <+Nikky> any flavor can do that [06:38:49] <+chronomex> Sir_Lewk: something like that [06:38:56] < _Digital> OS X can do that [06:39:03] <+chronomex> you don't have to watch your config files break very often, that's a plus [06:39:09] <+Nikky> except OS X sucks ass [06:39:11] <+Nikky> :) [06:39:15] < _Digital> anythign can do it, what should do it the best, if this still fits debian, I'll go get it [06:39:28] < _Digital> don't make me come over there [06:39:46] <+Sir_Lewk> should be pretty straight forward with anything [06:39:54] <+chronomex> hey could someone -v me? [06:39:57] <+Sir_Lewk> go with the more stable one if both will do the job [06:40:03] -!- mode/#tcpa [-v chronomex] by efneTI86 [06:40:03] <+Sir_Lewk> ie, debian [06:40:09] < chronomex> thnaks [06:40:12] <+Nikky> except everyone uses debian sid [06:40:13] <+Nikky> :) [06:40:32] <+Sir_Lewk> blah, hardly necessary for what he's doing [06:40:37] < chronomex> $ cat /etc/debian_version [06:40:37] < chronomex> 4.0 [06:40:44] < chronomex> I have a machine or two on 3.1 [06:40:49] <+Nikky> Sir_Lewk: so? [06:40:59] <+Sir_Lewk> he can use sid if he wants [06:41:11] <+Nikky> All the bots here run on sid [06:41:19] <+Nikky> and they seem to be doing pretty well :) [06:41:22] < _Digital> what is sid [06:41:36] <+Nikky> debian unstable [06:41:39] <+Sir_Lewk> I'm not knocking it, just saying I'd use sid more for a desktop than a server [06:41:55] <+Nikky> well, you use fedora so... [06:41:59] <+Nikky> your opinion matters not [06:42:07] <+Sir_Lewk> debian unstable is still leagues more stable than most stuff [06:42:24] < _Digital> any even with a 2 or 15 Mbps pie to teh box I don't I'll be serving that much traffic [06:42:29] <+Sir_Lewk> I use fedora *on my desktop* [06:42:56] < chronomex> hahahha [06:42:59] <+Nikky> rotfl [06:43:53] <+Sir_Lewk> shove it up your *nix hole [06:43:58] < chronomex> okay [06:44:02] <+Nikky> gladly [06:44:40] < _Digital> okay, now filesystems is a really touchy topic [06:44:49] < _Digital> what does debian use, what is recommended [06:44:58] < chronomex> ext3 is common and decent [06:45:01] <+Nikky> I just use ext3 [06:45:06] <+Nikky> simple, gets the job done [06:45:14] < chronomex> I use ext3 but I like reiser [06:45:58] < _Digital> reiser is my preferred choice except with the larger video stuff where ext2/ext3 work fine [06:46:05] < _Digital> want to test out reiser 4 in gentoo [06:46:33] < _Digital> given its features I don't have to worry about combating defrag with reiser or reiser4 [06:46:35] <+nicolas> but reiser is doomed! [06:46:39] <+Nikky> doomed [06:46:51] < _Digital> does ext3 have a defrag util? [06:46:55] <+Nikky> doesn't need it [06:47:11] < chronomex> _Digital: no [06:47:18] <+Nikky> but I think you can defrag it if you really really want to [06:47:31] < chronomex> if it gets fragmented, which it will, the best move is backup, nuke, restore [06:47:43] < chronomex> there's no trusted defrag utility [06:48:23] < _Digital> whats this I hear about ext4 being close to stable [06:48:43] < chronomex> It's all lies. [06:48:47] < chronomex> Imaginations and lies. [06:49:20] <+Nikky> lies [06:49:22] <+Sir_Lewk> I'll give it a try come Fedora 9 but there is no way I'm letting it on my home partition [06:49:31] <+Nikky> lol fedora [06:49:37] < _Digital> so because namesys is gone by all accounts and purposes, reiser4 will never get supported, but even 9 months ago ext4 support started poping up? [06:49:40] <+Sir_Lewk> lol Nikky [06:50:10] < _Digital> in kernel that is [06:50:38] < chronomex> _Digital: actually, look for e2defrag [06:51:04] <+Nikky> don't you have ot kick it back to ext2 for that? [06:51:43] <+Sir_Lewk> unless you filled it to 99% or something I don't see why you would even do that... [06:52:07] < _Digital> bbl, food run [06:53:05] < chronomex> yeah, Nikky, you do [06:53:12] < chronomex> but nobody thinks you should actually use it [06:57:09] < JoelS> wow, looking at ticalc.org, i think calc dev truly has died [06:58:00] <+Nikky> Thanks Kevin. [06:59:04] <+Sir_Lewk> which one? [07:00:07] <+Sir_Lewk> since both are hated here :P [07:07:48] <+Nikky> True. [07:07:53] <+Nikky> Snuggle? [07:08:01] -!- Netham45 [~netham45@c-76-25-242-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [07:08:08] -!- blankie [~this@d154-20-51-79.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [07:15:00] * Sir_Lewk snuggles nicolas [07:15:10] <+Sir_Lewk> grr, stupid autocomplete [07:15:21] <+Sir_Lewk> snuggles Nikky too [07:15:23] <+Sir_Lewk> orgy [07:15:28] < ports> ew [07:15:33] < _Digital> so, is that youtube copy of a music video about a bot in an IRC channel still up? [07:16:21] < _Digital> unless its compiling different architectures in a farm, I want no part [07:22:02] * Sir_Lewk sleeps [07:22:15] < ports> i like that song [07:22:20] < ports> CSS - music is my hot hot sex [07:22:24] < ports> its from the new ipod commercial [07:22:41] < _Digital> ... [07:22:51] < _Digital> sounds a bit risque, even for apple [07:22:55] -!- Sir_Lewk is now known as Sir_Zzzz [07:23:18] < ports> some brazillian band recorded the song and made an apple commercial and it got on youtube i guess [07:23:32] < ports> apple caught wind of it.. called them up and signed them up to produce a real commercial [07:23:33] < _Digital> link? [07:23:39] * Sir_Zzzz falls asleep on ports' shoulder [07:24:04] < ports> http://youtube.com/watch?v=KKQUZPqDZb0 [07:24:11] * _Digital rigs Sir_Zzzz's znooze button wiht a taser [07:31:05] <+Nikky> ports: that song is kind old [07:31:08] <+Nikky> well, the ad is, at least [07:31:30] <+Nikky> _Digital: boten anna? [07:32:08] -!- ports [~ports@76.206.18.62] has quit [Ping timeout: 372 seconds] [07:39:17] < _Digital> think thats it [07:39:54] < _Digital> only in america is being on IRC a marker for having no life [07:42:21] -!- JoelS [~JSeligste@c-76-102-163-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Leaving] [07:50:56] <+Nikky> >.> [07:51:04] < _Digital> ;) [08:08:35] <+nicolas> _Digital: snooze button with a taser, that could be a good idea [08:08:47] <+nicolas> but not too strong or you'd really snooze again :P [08:08:53] <+Nikky> I'd just unplug it [08:09:06] <+nicolas> Nikky: battery opped :D [08:09:15] <+Nikky> sledgehammer [08:09:15] <+nicolas> muahahah [08:09:28] <+nicolas> you'd get electrocuted through the hammer [08:09:53] -!- Sir_Zzzz [~john@c-76-98-224-234.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 556 seconds] [08:09:58] <+nicolas> it's super electricty that can travel through plastics and your leather gloves you may be using [08:10:02] <+nicolas> it's magic! [08:16:02] <+Nikky> :( [09:07:46] -!- netham45 [~netham45@c-76-25-242-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [09:07:47] <@efneTI86> [netham45] wewt [09:08:47] < netham45> we.. [09:08:51] < netham45> well* [09:09:02] < netham45> there goes 3 hours I could have been using to get my PC working again... [09:09:14] < netham45> but, you can run Unreal Tournament from Vista's recovery console [09:19:28] <+nicolas> eh [09:19:38] <+nicolas> isn't vista's recovery console textmode ? [09:19:56] <+nicolas> it's super-leet GUI ? [09:20:49] <+nicolas> hmmm [09:21:00] * nicolas wonders why he has +v ... [09:35:04] -!- glk [glk@adsl-71-153-170-161.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has quit [grahamkendall.net/ my url] [09:59:55] -!- bsparks [~NinjaDrag@cpe-75-185-102-73.insight.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa [09:59:55] -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.22.125] has joined #tcpa [09:59:55] -!- ServerMode/#tcpa [+v Merthsoft] by irc.Prison.NET [09:59:56] <@efneTI86> [Merthsoft] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles. [10:00:07] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v bsparks] by SnowCrash [10:00:15] -!- gh_ [~gh@borkum.loria.fr] has joined #tcpa [10:30:15] -!- rivereye [~rivereye@c-71-205-94-72.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [10:30:17] <@efneTI86> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing? [10:30:28] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v rivereye] by SnowCrash, etaonrish [10:52:50] <@E-J> http://kks.cabal.fi/SampoApplet [10:53:08] <@E-J> nicolas: don't you have even +o? [11:03:13] <+nicolas> E-J: yes, but it shouldn't give me +v automatically... [11:03:23] <+nicolas> unless it does if the channel is set to mute? [11:03:55] <+nicolas> hmm.. that bank of yours is emplying WTF security eh? [11:04:03] <@E-J> yep [11:04:24] -!- rivereye [~rivereye@c-71-205-94-72.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] [11:04:34] <@E-J> i'm somehow glad that my money lays on nordea's account, not sampo's [11:11:41] -!- blankie [~this@d154-20-51-79.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #tcpa [11:14:10] <@E-J> http://englishrussia.com/?p=1830 [12:04:05] -!- Randomist [~Randeimos@74.196.211.172] has joined #tcpa [12:24:08] -!- Leofox [~Miranda@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has joined #tcpa [12:24:10] <@efneTI86> [Leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR! [12:29:19] -!- Ben_O [~Ben_Oren@ool-4579011a.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [12:32:27] -!- Ben_O [~Ben_Oren@ool-4579011a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #tcpa [12:32:38] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Ben_O] by etaonrish [12:35:18] -!- Randomist [~Randeimos@74.196.211.172] has quit [Quit: Contorted angel, what do you want from me? \ ... \ Nothing is good for you...] [13:28:33] -!- Hunterkll [~Hunterkll@m785f36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #tcpa [13:31:44] < Hunterkll> DUDE! [13:31:50] < Hunterkll> I WAS JUST ON GOOD MORNING AMERICA!!!1 [13:31:54] -!- Tari_ [Tari@CPE-24-167-219-20.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [13:32:24] <@Andy_J> ... [13:32:42] < Hunterkll> :D :D [13:32:44] -!- Sir_Lewk [~john@c-76-98-224-234.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [13:32:45] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!! [13:32:56] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Sir_Lewk] by efneTI92 [13:33:11] <+Sir_Lewk> WHA???? [13:33:12] < Hunterkll> I was totally in the right place [13:33:15] <+Sir_Lewk> hellows [13:33:20] < Hunterkll> looking at the right expensive car [13:33:31] < Hunterkll> and i was like "IZ DAT SUM NEWS ANCHOR?!?" [13:33:35] < Hunterkll> and they started shooting [13:33:36] < Hunterkll> XD [13:33:48] <+Sir_Lewk> Hunterkll was on the news? [13:33:51] < Hunterkll> News anchors look waxy and plastic in person too! [13:33:59] <+Sir_Lewk> lol [13:34:10] <@Andy_J> I would hardly call good morning america, news. [13:34:18] < Hunterkll> Sir_Lewk: I spent like ~30 secs in the middle top of a frame and side of good morning america [13:34:19] < Hunterkll> Bah! [13:34:22] <+Sir_Lewk> LOL [13:34:23] < Hunterkll> I was walking by [13:34:25] < Hunterkll> looked at a car [13:34:28] < Hunterkll> and got on tv [13:34:29] < Hunterkll> XD [13:34:32] <+Sir_Lewk> Andy_J++ [13:34:33] <+al_b> youtube it [13:34:42] * Andy_J gives Hunterkll a (poisoned) cookie [13:35:06] < Hunterkll> haha [13:35:07] < Hunterkll> bb [13:35:10] -!- Hunterkll [~Hunterkll@m785f36d0.tmodns.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] [13:35:20] <@Andy_J> He won't be back. [13:35:28] <@Andy_J> That is rather fast-acting poison. [13:35:40] <+Sir_Lewk> http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hunterkll+on+tv&search_type= :( [13:35:48] <+Sir_Lewk> lol [13:41:05] <+Sir_Lewk> my stromboli is done! [13:43:20] <+Sir_Lewk> I'm pretty sure strombolis are evidence that there is hope for mankind after all [13:47:17] -!- Hunterkll [~Hunterkll@m2a5f36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #tcpa [13:48:53] <+Sir_Lewk> http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hunterkll+on+tv&search_type= :( [13:49:03] < Hunterkll> ? [13:49:07] < Hunterkll> LOL [13:55:28] -!- efneTI85 [aardrop@c-98-218-2-221.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 204 seconds] [13:59:25] -!- al_b is now known as al_zz [13:59:48] -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@p308a.tae.cooper.edu] has joined #tcpa [14:00:54] -!- efneTI85 [aardrop@c-98-218-2-221.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [14:01:45] -!- mode/#tcpa [+o efneTI85] by efneTI89, efneTI83 [14:01:48] -!- mode/#tcpa [+o efneTI85] by efneTI92 [14:02:53] -!- efneTI85 [aardrop@c-98-218-2-221.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] [14:04:02] < Hunterkll> HOLY FUCK [14:04:03] < Hunterkll> EPIC IDEA [14:04:03] < Hunterkll> SHOE ON HEAD ON GMA [14:04:03] < Hunterkll> !!!! [14:05:01] <+nicolas> hmm [14:05:04] <+nicolas> riiiiiiight [14:07:01] -!- Tari [~Tari@mke-66-97-119-119.milwpc.com] has joined #tcpa [14:07:02] <@efneTI86> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November [14:07:13] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Tari] by Remius [14:07:45] <+Tari> :( [14:07:49] <+Tari> the neighbors are moving [14:07:55] <+nicolas> awww [14:07:58] <+Tari> the fate of my internet connection is at stake! [14:08:01] <+nicolas> poor Tari [14:08:08] <+nicolas> that would [14:08:10] <+nicolas> suck [14:08:35] <+Tari> now I need to fire up aircrack-ng and find another fast ap [14:09:33] <+Sir_Lewk> that stromboli was the best thing I've had in a long time :D [14:10:52] <+Sir_Lewk> no internet of your own Tari? [14:11:01] <+Tari> nah, it's just slow [14:11:07] <+Sir_Lewk> ah [14:11:14] <+Tari> ~40 kB/s combined up/down [14:11:23] <+Sir_Lewk> eww :( [14:11:29] < i_c-Y> heh thats better than my uni connection half the time [14:11:35] <+Sir_Lewk> O.o [14:12:05] <+Sir_Lewk> I get 10+MB/s on my uni connection [14:12:10] <+Tari> at least no one around here uses WPA [14:12:29] <+Sir_Lewk> surprisingly few people do I find [14:13:29] <+Sir_Lewk> I've actually yet to see a WPA ap in Philly [14:15:20] <+Sir_Lewk> "Force shits upon Reason's back" [14:15:40] <+Sir_Lewk> damn I love Ben Franklin quotes :) [14:16:05] -!- Barrett [~chavez@76.8.217.50] has joined #tcpa [14:22:59] <+Sir_Lewk> heyya Barrett [14:26:40] -!- ryantmer [~ryantmer@64-247-139-3.ssimicro.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] [14:31:53] -!- ryantmer [~ryantmer@64-247-139-3.ssimicro.com] has joined #tcpa [14:32:28] -!- ryantmer [~ryantmer@64-247-139-3.ssimicro.com] has quit [Client Quit] [14:32:46] -!- Hunterkll [~Hunterkll@m2a5f36d0.tmodns.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] [14:33:22] -!- Tari_ [~Tari@mke-66-97-116-9.milwpc.com] has joined #tcpa [14:33:24] <@efneTI86> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November [14:33:32] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Tari_] by efneTI81, Remius [14:34:02] -!- notLeofox [Miranda@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has joined #tcpa [14:34:03] <@efneTI86> [notLeofox] All we do in hell is play DDR! [14:37:03] -!- Leofox [~Miranda@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] [14:37:59] -!- Tari [~Tari@mke-66-97-119-119.milwpc.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 360 seconds] [14:41:16] -!- efneTI85 [aardrop@c-98-218-2-221.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [14:41:21] -!- mode/#tcpa [+o efneTI85] by efneTI86, efneTI83, efneTI92 [15:08:25] < _Digital> me suspects I'm trying to be ping-flooded [15:08:37] -!- Tari__ [~Tari@mke-66-97-116-9.milwpc.com] has joined #tcpa [15:08:40] -!- Tari_ [~Tari@mke-66-97-116-9.milwpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] [15:09:16] < _Digital> otherwise I have a errant computer on teh network going nuts... [15:09:20] -!- Tari_ [~Tari@mke-66-97-116-9.milwpc.com] has joined #tcpa [15:09:32] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Tari_] by efneTI81, efneTI89 [15:10:20] < i_c-Y> .70 seconds eh? [15:12:36] < _Digital> welcome to fiber [15:12:57] < _Digital> I keep getting sporadic full saturation of my downstream pipe [15:13:24] < _Digital> since its toping off at ~1.7 MB/sec it has to be external [15:13:40] < _Digital> but my logs are shoing nothing except limiting icmp requests [15:13:52] -!- Alois [~alois@p5491E5F8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #tcpa [15:14:40] -!- Tari__ [~Tari@mke-66-97-116-9.milwpc.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 360 seconds] [15:14:52] < i_c-Y> i say it is the terrorists' fault. [15:16:56] < _Digital> watching my logs shows that the traffic is icmp ping requests, but it doesn't show an IP address. Suggestions for determining it? [15:18:24] < i_c-Y> ethreal maybe? [15:18:43] < _Digital> that was my thought, I'll go grab darwin ports [15:18:48] < i_c-Y> lolmacosx [15:18:54] < _Digital> yeah, pita [15:19:19] < i_c-Y> ive only tried fink, i think. [15:19:29] < i_c-Y> or maybe i tried darwin ports. [15:19:30] < i_c-Y> or both. [15:19:32] < _Digital> forget which installs easier [15:19:33] < i_c-Y> dont relaly remember [15:20:45] < _Digital> okay, what the freak... my tuner still shows as streaming, but teh program to activate it isn't running... [15:21:07] < _Digital> hdhomerun_config get /tuner0/status [15:21:15] < _Digital> woops, wrong windoe ;) [15:22:46] * Tari_ steals _Digital's tuner [15:22:54] < _Digital> thats why me gots 2 [15:23:08] <+Tari_> I hate you now [15:23:18] < _Digital> they are ASTC as well [15:23:23] <+Tari_> I'll need to pick up a converter box for my tuner [15:23:31] < _Digital> ir ATSC, can't remember the acro [15:23:40] <+Tari_> ATSC [15:23:43] <+Tari_> like NTSC [15:23:43] < i_c-Y> i want to convert NTSC to ATSC :/ [15:23:57] < i_c-Y> atsc is advanced television standards committee [15:24:20] < i_c-Y> national television system committee is ntsc [15:24:35] < _Digital> okay, time to reproduce the bug and file a report, that was insteresting [15:25:05] < _Digital> ran a small basc bash script to set and activate a direct stream from one of the tuners to my HDD [15:25:17] <+Tari_> ugh, soo slow [15:25:26] <+Tari_> current speed 40 kB/s [15:25:35] <+Tari_> estimated time 36:14 [15:26:12] < _Digital> kill teh script with ctrl+C, but somehow even with teh client dead, the tuner stayed on and was sending "icmp" packets and attempting to connect to a different port than it should have [15:26:47] < _Digital> unfortunately a live mpeg-2 stream is almost teh exact same amount of bandwidth as my download, around 15 Mbps [15:26:50] < _Digital> grr [15:29:33] < _Digital> hmm, doesn't look like the packets were stored into a file anywhere... [15:32:47] < Barrett> I want 15mbps [15:39:54] -!- Calgar [~graham@88-106-111-126.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #tcpa [15:48:54] -!- Tari [~Tari@mke-66-97-127-81.milwpc.com] has joined #tcpa [15:48:55] <@efneTI86> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November [15:49:07] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Tari] by efneTI83 [15:49:39] -!- Tari_ [~Tari@mke-66-97-116-9.milwpc.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 360 seconds] [15:51:31] -!- benryves [~benryves@host81-157-216-169.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #tcpa [16:22:17] -!- benryves [~benryves@host81-157-216-169.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: benryves] [16:22:21] -!- benryves [~benryves@host81-157-216-169.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #tcpa [16:22:25] -!- mode/#tcpa [+o benryves] by efneTI86 [16:25:51] -!- rivereye [~rivereye@c-71-205-94-72.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [16:25:52] <@efneTI86> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing? [16:26:04] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v rivereye] by SnowCrash [16:27:19] -!- Sir_Lewk [~john@c-76-98-224-234.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [16:46:05] -!- gh_ [~gh@borkum.loria.fr] has quit [Quit: Quitte] [16:54:08] -!- JoelS [~JSeligste@c-76-102-163-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [17:09:07] -!- ports [ports@76.206.18.62] has joined #tcpa [17:12:47] -!- gh_ [~gh@4va54-2-82-227-187-146.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #tcpa [17:12:57] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v gh_] by efneTI85 [17:20:10] < _Digital> hmmm, I'm so close to switching over to the 15/15 line [17:20:12] -!- Alois [~alois@p5491E5F8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 496 seconds] [17:20:14] < _Digital> oh so close [17:20:23] <@benryves> ? [17:21:17] < _Digital> 69.99 a month for 15mbps symmetrical fiber line. currently running 15/2 [17:22:07] <@benryves> Ah, cool. :) [17:23:58] -!- Alois [~alois@p5491E5F8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #tcpa [17:26:03] < _Digital> wondering though if I'll get banned for having an obnoxiously large pipe... [17:26:33] <@benryves> ...said the actress to the bishop. [17:27:04] < _Digital> plead teh 5th [17:32:28] -!- Alois [~alois@p5491E5F8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 496 seconds] [17:41:32] -!- [1]Netham [~Netham45@c-76-25-242-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [17:41:33] <@efneTI86> [[1]Netham] wewt [17:42:02] <@benryves> He's multiplying..! [17:42:44] < [1]Netham> yea [17:42:52] < [1]Netham> forgot to kill it on my server... [17:42:54] < [1]Netham> just a sec [17:43:43] -!- netham45 [~netham45@c-76-25-242-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] [17:43:56] -!- [1]Netham is now known as Netham45 [17:44:50] -!- mokomull [mmullins@beryllium.mmlx.us] has joined #tcpa [17:45:19] < Netham45> does anyone know a program I can use to compare the folders on 2 drives? [17:45:30] < Netham45> I had to restore to backups that were a couple of months old. [17:47:08] <@benryves> How do you mean, compare? [17:47:31] < Netham45> I want to see all the folders that were on my original drive that aren't on the one I restored my backups too [17:47:33] < Netham45> to* [17:47:41] <@benryves> If you just wish to copy newer files from one to the other (say), or mirror the two directories, I'd use robocopy. [17:48:07] <+nicolas> Netham45: there are some diff programs that handle dirs as well [17:48:21] < Netham45> I mainly want to compare the program files folder to see what I have installed [17:48:27] <+nicolas> can't remember which but google will help you [17:48:43] * nicolas goin home... & [17:55:14] -!- ryantmer [~ryantmer@64-247-139-3.ssimicro.com] has joined #tcpa [17:56:38] <+bsparks> benryves, I finally figured out BASIC recursion on the 83+ :) [17:57:15] <@benryves> Cool, does it work well? :D [17:57:27] <+bsparks> very [17:57:44] <+bsparks> it does floodfill extremely well actually [17:57:53] <+bsparks> which is one of the reasons I like it :) [17:57:54] <+bsparks> buuut [17:58:00] <+bsparks> it is memory intensive [17:58:34] <+bsparks> like, you need 2k ram free to run it in an 8x12 space, well, 2k MAX, that is if every element needs updating [17:58:49] <@benryves> There are non-recursive flood-fill algorithms out there, but the recursive ones are often the most intuitive ones to write. [17:59:00] -!- tr1p1ea [~me@124-254-101-253-dsl.ispone.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 615 seconds] [17:59:00] <+bsparks> mhmm [17:59:02] <+bsparks> erll [17:59:04] <+bsparks> *well [17:59:11] <+bsparks> it is easily adapted for other uses as well [17:59:16] <+bsparks> such as pathfinding [17:59:32] <+bsparks> idk why though, it took me 2 years to get it right [17:59:54] <@benryves> Very useful in minesweeper games, too. :) [17:59:54] <+bsparks> I did it on the 89 no problemo, it had local vars >) [18:00:01] <@benryves> Heh, yeah. :D [18:00:16] <+bsparks> hell, I had a 89 minesweeper game with floodfill [18:00:30] <+bsparks> it was still on my 89 when I sent it to DA [18:01:15] <@benryves> You can convert any recursive function into an iterative one, in any case. [18:01:51] -!- TrN [9906947XB7@2001:4830:167c:1:9428:2b4:d83:718e] has joined #tcpa [18:02:02] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v TrN] by efneTI85 [18:02:26] <@benryves> Fun in functional languages where you end up doing things you'd normally do iteratively recursively. :) [18:04:21] <+bsparks> :P [18:04:40] <+bsparks> right now, I am trying to find my submission to the UTI speed coding contest [18:04:46] <+bsparks> because it practically begged for this [18:04:49] <+bsparks> badly [18:11:48] <@Andy_J> O_o http://www.masterthebusiness.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/2268237733-cda4a1dbb3-thumb.jpg [18:12:22] < Netham45> if that's a severed thumb... [18:12:35] <@benryves> Haha, nice Andy_J :D [18:12:42] < Netham45> haha [18:15:02] <@E-J> benryves: have you seen this already http://kks.cabal.fi/SampoApplet [18:18:08] <@benryves> Nope, E-J..? [18:21:21] <@E-J> how finnish bank destroys its security with danish software [18:21:36] <@E-J> that bank has only 800k customers [18:24:10] -!- scabby [~scabby@host86-131-234-219.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #tcpa [18:24:26] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v scabby] by efneTI85 [18:25:03] <+scabby> hlo [18:26:30] <@benryves> E-J: Ouch, looks pretty horrible :\ [18:27:24] <@E-J> i like that "public static final int RandomErrorNotEnoughRandom = 1;" [18:28:00] <@E-J> even i haven't been able to do code like that :) [18:28:17] <@benryves> Heh :D [18:28:20] <@benryves> "There is a Java code obfuscator included with the applet. The developers apparently forgot to run it." [18:28:37] < Netham45> haha [18:28:56] -!- JoelS [~JSeligste@c-76-102-163-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] [18:30:16] * benryves goes home, in the rain. :( [18:30:42] -!- JoelS [~JSeligste@c-76-102-163-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [18:30:51] * Netham45 hands benryves an umbrella [18:31:17] <@benryves> That would be helpful, yes... See you, gents! [18:31:24] -!- benryves [~benryves@host81-157-216-169.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has left #tcpa [] [18:31:28] < Netham45> bye [18:37:17] -!- Calgar [~graham@88-106-111-126.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Quit: “The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is the day they make a vacuum cleaner.”] [18:56:58] -!- Netham45 [~Netham45@c-76-25-242-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] [19:00:19] -!- Netham45 [~Netham45@c-76-25-242-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [19:01:51] <+Nikky> Hey Netham45 [19:02:09] <+Nikky> What's up? [19:03:24] < Netham45> not much [19:03:31] < Netham45> what's up with you? [19:04:23] < Netham45> damnit [19:04:29] < Netham45> restored my backups to the wrong drive... [19:04:40] < Netham45> sent them to my original... [19:04:48] < Netham45> damnit, I just lost 2 months of shit... [19:05:04] * Netham45 slaps Cobian for failing 2 months ago [19:05:07] <+scabby> oops [19:19:57] < _Digital> nice, very very smooth [19:19:57] -!- Ben_O [~Ben_Oren@ool-4579011a.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] [19:20:54] -!- Ben_O [~Ben_Oren@ool-4579011a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #tcpa [19:21:05] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Ben_O] by efneTI89 [19:23:25] -!- benryves [~benryves@79-72-90-186.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #tcpa [19:23:48] -!- mode/#tcpa [+o benryves] by efneTI86 [19:39:47] -!- btrettel [~btrettel@btrettel.student.umd.edu] has joined #tcpa [19:53:55] -!- Randomist [~Randeimos@74.196.211.172] has joined #tcpa [20:00:56] <+Tari> now taking bets on how long GCC will take to compile [20:01:06] < Randomist> Four hours. [20:01:25] <@Andy_J> 9001 minutes [20:01:33] <+scabby> .7 days [20:01:51] < Randomist> What kind of comp do you got? [20:02:00] < _Digital> Tari, what are your specs? [20:02:04] <@Andy_J> a compiler compiling itself is kind of a mindfuck [20:02:09] <@Andy_J> yes, different version, but still [20:03:02] <@benryves> Especially when there are backdoors. :) [20:03:07] <@Andy_J> quite [20:03:19] <@Andy_J> "oh hey I'm comiling login, time to put a backdoor in" [20:03:38] <@Andy_J> "oh hey I'm compiling myself, time to put the login backdoor backdoor and the compiling myself backdoor in" [20:04:16] <@benryves> What is it about computer scientists and scary facial hair? :\ [20:04:23] < chronomex> hah [20:04:27] < chronomex> shaving takes time? [20:04:51] <+scabby> i always seem to end up bleeding [20:05:29] <+Tari> 450 mhz PII [20:05:43] < _Digital> half of your lifetime then [20:05:56] <@Andy_J> heh, my guess is probably the most accurate [20:06:03] < Randomist> Tari, six to eight hours. [20:06:19] < Randomist> But, probably less than ten. [20:06:23] < _Digital> took me about 4 hours on 2.7 GHz C2D [20:06:30] < _Digital> I htink [20:06:39] < _Digital> didn't exactly sit by with a stop watch [20:07:57] <+Tari> 'sat gcc/gcs.c now [20:08:15] < chronomex> Tari: `time make` [20:08:23] <+Tari> *gcse.c [20:08:27] < _Digital> he's already compiling [20:09:51] < chronomex> Free Jimi Hendrix from Carbonite! http://www.flickr.com/photos/bellaredux/2281385210/ and http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=7235335865 [20:10:08] < Spengo> http://www.comicspage.com/brewster/brewster.html oh lmao [20:10:50] < chronomex> haha [20:11:05] < _Digital> nice [20:11:23] <+Tari> meh, I started my stopwatch [20:11:23] <+Tari> it's been 9 minutes now [20:13:12] -!- Ben_O [~Ben_Oren@ool-4579011a.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] [20:13:27] * Nikky kisses Andy_J [20:14:29] < Randomist> Someone is really feeling the love in here... [20:15:02] * Spengo kisses DSP_Lord [20:15:29] -!- _Digital [~DC@pool-96-240-47-219.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [_Digital] [20:17:26] -!- Ximoon [Ximoon@m112.net81-64-36.noos.fr] has joined #tcpa [20:17:49] * DSP_Lord slaps Spengo [20:17:55] < Spengo> ;, [20:17:59] < Spengo> :< [20:18:13] * chronomex hugs Spengo and glares at DSP_Lord [20:18:31] * DSP_Lord huggles chronomex [20:18:40] <+DSP_Lord> herro there [20:18:41] * chronomex huggles DSP_Lord [20:19:02] -!- Sir_Lewk [~john@c-76-98-224-234.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [20:19:03] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!! [20:19:13] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Sir_Lewk] by Remius, etaonrish [20:19:35] < Spengo> \O/ [20:20:51] -!- Ximoon [Ximoon@m112.net81-64-36.noos.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 198 seconds] [20:21:53] <+Sir_Lewk> SPENGO! [20:22:06] < Spengo> oh... it's you =.= [20:28:19] < Randomist> Mmm... Deathcake... [20:29:19] * Sir_Lewk eats Randomist's Deathcake [20:30:11] -!- non-sense [d0nskeet@CPE001a9242cc4d-CM0012257058c6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [i needz a bng] [20:30:26] <+Tari> 30 minutes in, still working [20:35:47] < Randomist> I suggest you make you a couple of pots of coffee. [20:35:54] < Randomist> yourself [20:50:00] < Netham45> sweetness [20:50:05] < Netham45> I got an NES hooked up to my PCs TV Tuner [20:51:24] -!- DSPLord [~darksidep@cpe-066-056-250-157.ec.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa [20:51:26] <@efneTI86> [DSPLord] *waves hand* You will give me +v. [20:51:34] -!- Hunterkll [~Hunterkll@host-12-199-80-11.clearviewcatv.net] has joined #tcpa [20:51:38] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v DSPLord] by etaonrish, efneTI83 [20:52:57] -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@cpe-066-056-250-157.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 496 seconds] [20:55:28] <@benryves> Netham45: Is that even remotely playable? [20:55:33] < Netham45> yea [20:55:49] < Netham45> there's like a 2ms delay in my TV Tuner [20:55:57] <@benryves> Ah, not bad, then. [20:56:06] < Netham45> yea [20:56:09] <@benryves> The video capture cable I use has ~1s delay :D [20:56:15] < Netham45> ah [20:56:22] < Netham45> my HD inputs have about a 5s delay [20:56:28] <@benryves> (Use for video capture, not live playback, obviously). ;) [20:56:59] < Netham45> yea [20:57:03] <+scabby> how does a cable have a 1s delay? [20:57:15] < Netham45> I use mine with my XBox/NES/SNES/GC/n64/Genesis [20:57:22] < Netham45> scabby, the decoding process takes time [20:57:44] <+scabby> so the decoder has a 1s delay not the cable? [20:57:50] < Netham45> yea [20:57:54] <+scabby> ah ok [20:58:03] < Netham45> that'd be a long-ass cable, heh. [20:58:08] <+scabby> certainly would [20:58:24] <@benryves> The "cable" just has an s-video and composite connector on one end and USB on the other. [20:58:28] < Netham45> yea [20:58:40] < Netham45> mine has svideo/composite/ATSC/NTSC [20:58:56] < Netham45> I think mine also does PAL [20:59:08] <@benryves> ATSC/NTSC broadcast tuners? [20:59:25] < Randomist> Whose got the biggest collection of electronic in here? [20:59:29] -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@cpe-066-056-250-157.ec.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa [20:59:32] <@efneTI86> [DSP_Lord] *waves hand* You will give me +v. [20:59:33] < Netham45> benryves, coaxial input [20:59:40] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v DSP_Lord] by efneTI85, efneTI92 [20:59:53] -!- DSPLord [~darksidep@cpe-066-056-250-157.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 496 seconds] [21:00:11] <@benryves> Netham45: As in, you hook it to an aerial and it tunes into broadcasts, or you feed it a composite signal directly. [21:00:21] < Netham45> I have an antenna [21:00:37] < Netham45> but, I also have my NES on the coaxial input [21:00:39] <@benryves> OK, if you need the US English translation of aerial, then "antenna". :D [21:00:53] < Netham45> heh [21:01:02] < Netham45> yea, I have an amplifying antenna [21:01:06] < Netham45> I still don't get many channels [21:01:17] <@benryves> How close do you live to the transmitter? [21:01:20] < Netham45> I get ~10 HD channels and ~5 normal channels [21:01:25] < Netham45> quite a ways away, I think. [21:01:52] <@benryves> I can see the transmitter out of my window, so an amplifier does more harm than good. [21:01:58] < Netham45> heh [21:02:07] < Netham45> they are supposed to be putting up a high-powered ATSC tuner soon [21:02:20] < Netham45> s/tuner/transmitter [21:02:25] <@benryves> (But is pretty necessary when the tuner is next to a PC, sadly). [21:02:53] < Netham45> mines internal [21:03:07] <@benryves> Even worse. :| [21:03:08] < Netham45> it's a PCI card [21:03:13] < Netham45> yea [21:03:17] < Netham45> it also has an FM tuner on it [21:03:35] < Netham45> my card. [21:03:47] <@benryves> I just have a cheap USB DVB-T tuner, picks up 66 channels. [21:04:04] <+scabby> are the usb ones any good then? [21:04:15] <+scabby> was thinking of getting a new tv card.. i've only got a really crappy old analogue one [21:04:18] <@benryves> For digital TV, certainly. [21:04:34] < Netham45> yea, I got my tuner for $40 on eBay [21:04:40] < Netham45> it's about $120 new. [21:04:43] < Netham45> USD [21:04:50] * Randomist hugs Firefox III. [21:05:00] < Netham45> Randomist, you're still on FF3? [21:05:05] < Netham45> FF4 Pre-Alpha is out. [21:05:07] <@benryves> I got mine for £16 new from Amazon (including P&P). The software sucks, but comes with BDA drivers so should work in Media Center. [21:05:12] <+scabby> hm thought you had to use a proper roof mounted aerial for digital though? not sure i can easily connect my PC to that [21:05:19] < Randomist> I don't try out alphas. [21:05:32] < Netham45> scabby, I don't. I have a cheap RCA amplifier [21:05:40] < Netham45> digital still goes over UHF, right? [21:05:47] < Randomist> But, how is it, anyway? [21:05:51] <@benryves> scabby: Depends how strong the signal is in your area. A decent indoor aerial might be good enough. [21:05:58] < Netham45> Randomist, at this stage, it's pretty much FF3. [21:06:14] <+scabby> benryves, hmm ok, might have to try it out.. might get a new TV soon anyway with digital built in. my last tv blew up in a thunder storm :( [21:06:17] < Netham45> speaking of crappy signal, my PCs FM Radio is getting 3 stations [21:06:25] <@benryves> (Oh, and IE8 rocks). ¬_¬ [21:06:50] < Netham45> yeA [21:06:56] < Netham45> hmm [21:06:57] <@benryves> scabby: Ack, that sucks. :( [21:06:59] < Netham45> I don't have IE8 anymore... [21:07:04] < Randomist> I wonder if IE8 will work under WINE? [21:07:30] < Netham45> I highly doubt it [21:07:32] <+scabby> benryves, not so bad, it blew up nearly 18 months ago and i haven't really missed it .. mind you, i've been 200 miles away from it for 9 of those [21:07:34] <@benryves> Randomist: Last I checked IE7 didn't (though could be persuaded to via the IE6 interface), so doubtful. [21:08:40] <@benryves> scabby: Not that there's much worth watching on TV anyway. :D [21:08:57] < Netham45> yea [21:09:02] < Netham45> I got my TV Tuner to play games on [21:09:17] <@benryves> I use a VGA box for that. [21:09:23] < Randomist> Can GTK themes be animated? [21:09:23] <+scabby> indeed. that's why i got a 30" monitor and a giganews subscription :) [21:09:53] < Randomist> Like, can you have a window frame theme that has a flaming titlebar or something? [21:09:55] -!- DSPLord [~darksidep@cpe-066-056-250-157.ec.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa [21:09:56] <@efneTI86> [DSPLord] *waves hand* You will give me +v. [21:10:00] <+scabby> 2560x1600 ftw [21:10:09] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v DSPLord] by etaonrish, efneTI89 [21:10:54] < Netham45> heh [21:11:25] < Netham45> I have my CRT on 1920x1440 [21:11:26] < Randomist> I want! [21:11:28] < Netham45> but it's a 19" [21:11:37] < Randomist> At scabby's resolution. [21:11:39] < Netham45> wait [21:11:41] <+Merthsoft> that's unnecessary [21:11:43] < Netham45> no, I have 2048x1536 [21:11:58] < Randomist> And a really good graphics card that could handle such a resolution. [21:12:14] < Netham45> yes [21:12:20] < Netham45> it is horibally unnecessary [21:12:32] <+scabby> i have an 8600gt i think.. had a 7600gt when i had my agp motherboard [21:12:43] <+Merthsoft> 1280x800 works just fine for me [21:12:48] <+scabby> 8600gts even [21:12:49] < Netham45> I have a 7900GS [21:13:04] <@benryves> Mm, 1680x1050 here. :\ [21:13:15] <+Sir_Lewk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a9jZJaEgDg&NR=1 [21:13:27] <+scabby> Merthsoft, but just imagine that tiled 4 times! you could do 4 times as much work/play! [21:13:32] -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@cpe-066-056-250-157.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [21:14:10] < Netham45> I have 1 monitor at 2048x1536, and one at 1680x1050 [21:14:27] <@benryves> Silly LCDs and their blasted native resolutions. [21:14:32] < Netham45> heh [21:14:34] < Netham45> I like my LCD [21:14:40] <+Merthsoft> scabby: I'd still only be able to do 1 thing at once [21:14:49] < Netham45> my CRT may get 2048x1536, but my LCD still looks better. [21:15:38] < Netham45> I just threw away 2 CRTs that could go to 2048x1536, heh. [21:15:50] < Randomist> What!? [21:15:52] <+scabby> yeah, i have a 21" sony trinitron that's going in the bin [21:16:02] < Randomist> You could of gave 'em to me, if they worked. [21:16:09] < Netham45> one of them was a 24", and one was a 21" [21:16:12] < Netham45> both dells, iirc. [21:16:15] < Netham45> Randomist, they were both going out [21:16:22] < Randomist> Oh. [21:16:24] < Netham45> the 24" took almost half an hour to fully turn on [21:16:28] <+Merthsoft> lol [21:16:31] <+scabby> wow [21:16:35] <@benryves> Netham45: Aperture grille? [21:16:41] <+scabby> my friend had a tv like that :) [21:16:44] < Netham45> and the 21" one my brother poured water on by accident [21:16:48] < Netham45> benryves, what? [21:17:09] <@benryves> Netham45: As opposed to conventional shadow mask (the tech used in Sony Trinitron displays). [21:17:14] < Netham45> my 21" one kinda sorta works, but it is really really bright, and really fuzzy. [21:17:21] < Netham45> benryves, I don't have a Sony Trinitron [21:17:30] < Netham45> that was scabby [21:18:03] <@benryves> Netham45: I know. I was asking whether your monitors were aperture grille; Trinitron is just Sony's brand name for their use of it. [21:18:12] < Netham45> ah [21:18:14] < Netham45> I do not know [21:18:16] < Netham45> how would I check? [21:18:42] <@benryves> The most obvious indication are two faint horizontal lines spaced approximately a third of the way from the top and bottom of the display. [21:19:23] * benryves has a 17" Dell aperture grille CRT, and it looks stunning. :D [21:19:40] < Randomist> If someone's got a CRT that can do 1280x1024 @ 75Hz or better, and it has a decent display, and they don't want it anymore (upgrading to a flatscreen?) I'll take it! [21:19:45] < Netham45> no, I don't think any of them had that. [21:20:14] < Netham45> Randomist, I just threw 2 15"ers that worked perfectly like that away, heh. [21:20:37] <+scabby> hm are there any special requirements for disposing of crts? [21:20:44] <+scabby> or can i just dump it down the skip? [21:20:50] <+scabby> s/skip/tip [21:20:54] < Netham45> you're not supposed to [21:21:05] <+scabby> hm [21:21:11] <+scabby> get council to take it away?? [21:21:14] < Netham45> there is a dumpster up the street from me I put them in. [21:21:15] <@benryves> They're classed as hazardous waste, at least in the UK. [21:21:21] < Netham45> they are in the US too [21:25:42] -!- Sir_Lewk [~john@c-76-98-224-234.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] [21:26:04] <+scabby> especially if you've connected it to a machine running windows? [21:26:55] < Randomist> lol, BSoD Clean-up Industry... [21:27:51] < Netham45> I have 2 monitors on my PC, one at 2048x1536, and one at 1680x1050, is it possible to have my mouse like scale them when I cross? I want it so when I go to a different one at the top, the mouse is at the top on the other one , same for the bottom/middle. [21:29:03] -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@cpe-066-056-250-157.ec.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa [21:29:05] <@efneTI86> [DSP_Lord] *waves hand* You will give me +v. [21:29:12] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v DSP_Lord] by etaonrish [21:32:42] -!- DSPLord [~darksidep@cpe-066-056-250-157.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [21:32:58] <+scabby> Netham45, i don't know. but i once wrote a program that let me use my ps2 analog stick as a mouse wheel. not sure that's much help though.. [21:33:21] -!- Peter_W [~CalcKing@dialup1823.wnskvtao.sover.net] has joined #tcpa [21:33:43] -!- Tahben [~Tahben@ip70-190-15-31.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #tcpa [21:33:54] -!- _Digital [~DC@pool-96-240-47-219.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa [21:34:53] < Netham45> lol, ok. [21:35:07] < Netham45> I wrote a program in VB6 that let me use a joystick as a mouse [21:35:13] -!- Sir_Lewk [~john@c-76-98-224-234.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [21:35:13] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!! [21:35:14] < Netham45> I never did get clicking to work right [21:35:22] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Sir_Lewk] by efneTI92 [21:35:22] <+scabby> hehe probably the same thing as mine then [21:35:40] <+scabby> using mouse_event [21:35:56] * Sir_Lewk clicks on Netham45 [21:36:04] <+scabby> i only wrote it because i was getting so annoyed by the sound of people scrolling their mouse wheels at work [21:36:08] <+scabby> then i bought some headphones instead [21:36:28] <+scabby> but it did strike me that the mousewheel is pretty crap for scrolling through code.. a joystick is much nicer [21:36:46] < Peter_W> or get a mouse with universal scroll [21:36:48] < Netham45> yea [21:36:50] < Netham45> I used mouse_event [21:36:59] < Netham45> lol [21:37:02] <+scabby> just need to be able to shoot the bugs with the trigger and you're set for games programming [21:37:12] < Netham45> haha [21:37:20] < Peter_W> heh [21:37:36] * Sir_Lewk clicks on Netham45 [21:37:40] <+scabby> that's all i've been doing for the last few months... that and optimising... oh fun [21:37:41] <+Sir_Lewk> HEADSHOT! [21:37:41] <@E-J> scabby: mouse i had before this mouse had wheel that didn't make any sound when scrolling [21:37:55] <+scabby> e-J, sounds like a good idea [21:37:56] * Netham45 rapes Sir_Lewk [21:37:58] < Peter_W> my mouse wheel isn't too loud [21:37:59] < Netham45> BUMSHOT! [21:38:04] <+Merthsoft> E-J: did it have any feedback? [21:38:08] <+Sir_Lewk> :( [21:38:11] < Peter_W> silent if I'm not moving it too fast [21:38:28] < Netham45> mine is silent too [21:38:32] <+scabby> i still have a nice big old grey intellimouse explorer.. the mouse wheel on that isn't too bad [21:38:36] < Netham45> I have to hold it to my ear to hear it [21:38:40] <+Merthsoft> Netham45: I like how your sense of offensive is so twisted that calling something "queer" offends you, but joking about rape is fair game... [21:38:47] < Peter_W> logitech here [21:38:57] < Netham45> Logitech LX7 [21:39:03] * Sir_Lewk gayrapes Netham45 [21:39:17] <+Merthsoft> Sir_Lewk++ twice the political incorrectness [21:39:23] <+Nikky> http://images.wsdot.wa.gov/Snoqualmie/Frankfal/frankfal.jpg?1206567506417 [21:39:26] < Tahben> don't make me kick both you gays out\ [21:39:37] <@E-J> it was boeder's mouse (company doesn't exist anymore i'm afraid) [21:39:38] <+Merthsoft> Hi Tahben [21:39:39] <+Sir_Lewk> sorry Tahben :( [21:39:43] < Tahben> hi Merthsoft+ [21:39:47] <+Merthsoft> how are you? [21:39:49] <@benryves> 'lo Tahben [21:39:54] <+Nikky> You people are dumbasses. [21:39:56] <+Merthsoft> God, fuck German... [21:40:01] < Netham45> :( [21:40:03] < Netham45> I'm german... [21:40:06] <@E-J> dual wheel mouse [21:40:11] <+Nikky> And look you at Netham45 [21:40:11] < Tahben> depressed, but this cheese is helping. [21:40:12] <+Merthsoft> I'm German too [21:40:13] <+Nikky> nobody likes you [21:40:26] < Peter_W> dual wheel, E-J? I haven't seen one.. [21:40:28] -!- DSPLord [~darksidep@cpe-066-056-250-157.ec.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa [21:40:29] <@efneTI86> [DSPLord] *waves hand* You will give me +v. [21:40:29] <+Nikky> Cheese is for losers. [21:40:30] <@benryves> Tahben: Anti-depressive cheese? :D [21:40:31] < Netham45> Nikky, you just don't like me because I dont go, "HEIL NIKKY" [21:40:43] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v DSPLord] by Remius, efneTI85 [21:40:44] <+Sir_Lewk> what kind of cheese? [21:40:46] < Netham45> I used to have a GM Dual Wheel mouse [21:40:49] < Netham45> it gave up though [21:40:54] < Netham45> it bit the cheese [21:40:58] <+scabby> can anyone recommend a mouse? [21:41:00] < Tahben> its p'tit basque. [21:41:06] <+Nikky> scabby: One that works. [21:41:06] <+Merthsoft> benryves: Must be serotonin filled cheese [21:41:12] <+scabby> preferably a LARGE mouse that doesn't give you RSI after 8 hours straight mousing [21:41:14] < Tahben> we don't have access to much exotic stuff here, so I had to buy it when I saw it. [21:41:47] <+Sir_Lewk> hmm, sheep cheese [21:42:18] < Peter_W> Fear the bitmaps! [21:42:24] * Peter_W ducks [21:43:02] <+Nikky> I have a large "mouse." [21:43:03] <+Nikky> ;) [21:43:33] <+Sir_Lewk> *gasp* [21:43:36] < Netham45> I have a Logitech LX7 mouse [21:43:37] < Netham45> I like it [21:44:04] <+Nikky> You told us that. [21:44:24] < Netham45> good [21:44:28] < Netham45> that's an important piece of info [21:44:30] -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@cpe-066-056-250-157.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [21:44:32] <+scabby> is cordless as good as wired now? or still a bit flaky? [21:44:37] -!- DSPLord is now known as DSP_Lord [21:44:46] <+Sir_Lewk> I have my thinkpad's "ultranav" and a nice lightweight optical mouse [21:44:51] < Peter_W> no problems here, and mine's not terribly recent [21:45:02] < Netham45> the LX7 is wireless, and I have had no issues, asides from when the batteries get low [21:45:12] <+Sir_Lewk> cordless is heavier, I'm not a fan [21:45:20] <@benryves> I'm not sure what the point of wireless ones are, apart from wasting more energy. :\ [21:45:22] < Peter_W> I use two sets of rechargeables, and just keep swapping them [21:45:23] <+scabby> ah, batteries.. so you have to remember to charge it [21:45:31] <+scabby> sounds like a pain. what's wrong with a wire??? [21:45:32] < Peter_W> ^^ [21:45:42] * Peter_W didn't buy it personally... [21:45:57] < Peter_W> It is nice being able to lean back and scroll the window [21:45:59] <@benryves> Especially if you're going to be sitting near your PC anyway. [21:46:01] * Nikky buys Peter_W [21:46:06] <+scabby> benryves, exactly [21:46:09] <@E-J> wire is always in a way [21:46:13] <+scabby> think i'll stick with my intellimouse explorer for a while longer [21:46:17] < Tahben> Sir_Lewk+ - what sheeps cheeses have you had? [21:46:22] <+Sir_Lewk> slavery is illegal Nikky [21:46:22] < Peter_W> also true: E-J++ :P [21:46:29] <@E-J> that's why i bought tailless [21:46:34] <+Sir_Lewk> not much, my grandmother usually has a bunch [21:46:38] < Peter_W> tail-less? rofl [21:46:39] <+scabby> unfortunately you can't buy them any more and i need a new mouse for work :p [21:46:49] <+Tari> http://www.carloslabs.com/node/16 [21:46:50] <@E-J> when that boeder's mouse broke [21:46:51] -!- Milyardo [~zpowers@141.216.27.99] has joined #tcpa [21:46:56] < Milyardo> !alive [21:47:03] <+scabby> !dead [21:47:10] < Peter_W> !moo [21:47:16] * Milyardo moos [21:47:16] < Netham45> !cluck [21:47:16] <@E-J> !q [21:47:16] <@efneTI86> 721: !qfind efneTI86: can you think of any reason why I can't smoke in #tcpa? | No matches [Added: aardvarq at 2006/10/21 23:53] [21:47:19] < Tahben> I would like better access to healthcare and cheese. and education. but mostly cheese. [21:47:26] < Peter_W> What were the chances... [21:47:32] < Peter_W> odds* [21:47:38] < Netham45> aardvarq, your quotes suck. :( [21:47:50] <@E-J> !qfind netham [21:47:52] <@efneTI86> 1081:sjrberg: did yoiu make a steam account yet? | I'm on OS X :P | dumbass | bought a mac. :P | Netham45, why does that make me a dumbass? | because Im very anti-mac | you didn't do anything to be a dumbass | :D [21:47:56] <@efneTI86> 74:Mike_K: What is your password for the #TCPA bots? I want voice. [21:47:58] <@efneTI86> 639:Andy_J: Someone in a non-calculator channel on a completely different IRC network just said "hi netham" and when I read it I was like oh sh$@*. | But then I noticed he said "hi nathan" [21:48:01] <@efneTI86> (Plus 71 more matches: http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/?filter=netham&channel=tcpa&search=search) [21:48:11] <+Sir_Lewk> I've had roquefort a couple of times I think [21:48:31] < Tahben> is that a sheep cheese? [21:48:33] <@benryves> Mmm, Roquefort :D [21:48:39] <@benryves> Nope, a nice strong blue. [21:49:00] <+Sir_Lewk> oh, it's not sheep? [21:49:21] <@E-J> blue cheese is bad [21:49:31] <@benryves> Sorry, yes, for some reason I keep reading "sheep" as "goat" (chevre) :\ [21:49:33] < Milyardo> Whats the defau;t for renameing a window in screen c_a c_A? [21:49:36] <+Sir_Lewk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roquefort ewe's milk [21:49:41] <+Merthsoft> bleu cheese [21:50:44] < Tahben> sheeps are not cheese. [21:50:44] <@E-J> ben "goatse" ryves? [21:50:55] < Tahben> they make cheese though, with those little hoofs [21:51:08] <+Sir_Lewk> say NO to goatse cheese! >:( [21:51:26] <@benryves> E-J: Damn, you've found out my secret identity at long last! :( [21:51:40] -!- DSPLord [~darksidep@cpe-066-056-250-157.ec.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa [21:51:40] < Tahben> didn't a guy from here own goatse? #ti maybe? [21:51:41] <@efneTI86> [DSPLord] *waves hand* You will give me +v. [21:51:55] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v DSPLord] by efneTI92 [21:52:07] <+Nikky> whores [21:52:31] <+Sir_Lewk> probably you Nikky [21:52:33] < Milyardo> I wonder if screen will let me have multiple ircII windows without them being completely different sessions [21:52:50] <@E-J> Tahben: maybe you mix that with calcporn.com [21:52:58] * Randomist goes away to look for some dark, sexy GTK themes. [21:53:00] < Tahben> i'm serious. I swear, someone I knew on IRC started goatse [21:53:25] < Milyardo> Everyone on IRC has started something [21:53:25] <+Sir_Lewk> as in, he was the goatse man? [21:54:00] <+Sir_Lewk> bbl, time to make pizza [21:54:08] < Milyardo> PIZZA [21:54:10] < Milyardo> OMG [21:54:14] -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@cpe-066-056-250-157.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 360 seconds] [21:54:21] < Milyardo> Bring me back a slice... [21:54:24] < Milyardo> :( [21:54:25] <+Sir_Lewk> homemade too [21:54:28] < Milyardo> :D [21:54:31] <+Sir_Lewk> crust and everything :D [21:54:38] < Milyardo> :D :D [21:54:38] < Randomist> Me, too! [21:55:26] < Tahben> i meant the site, not the man. [21:55:32] <@E-J> Tahben: according to wikipedia, matt miller owned the orginal domain [21:56:25] < Milyardo> Matt Miller? Thats only one of the most generic names in the US [21:56:30] < Milyardo> nexy to John Smith [21:58:43] <+Merthsoft> hey, tath's my name! [21:58:55] < Milyardo> Which one? [21:59:02] <+Merthsoft> guess you'll never know [21:59:44] <@E-J> and if you are from kansas, you might be that guy [21:59:47] < Milyardo> !finger Merthsoft [21:59:54] < Milyardo> no finger? :( [22:00:00] <+Merthsoft> eww dude [22:00:03] <+Merthsoft> back the fuck off [22:00:04] <@E-J> Milyardo: how about /whois [22:00:14] < Milyardo> I want to finger [22:00:43] <+Merthsoft> that's gross [22:00:55] <@E-J> try women, they are mostly weaker [22:00:56] < Randomist> [Laughing:] Eeeeeew! [22:01:17] <@E-J> i don't know about Tahben though [22:01:50] < Tahben> what? [22:02:03] < Tahben> dude, my vag could kick your ass. [22:02:10] < Tahben> don't forget, I had a drug free natural childbirth. [22:02:38] < Milyardo> Hrmmm... Interesting [22:03:10] < Milyardo> Screen keeps telling me theres Activity in window 16 when theres no actvity [22:03:14] < Milyardo> screen has lied to me [22:03:29] < Milyardo> screen makes me cry [22:03:32] * Milyardo cries [22:05:14] < Peter_W> The screen is a lie ... ing [22:05:24] <+Nikky> ? [22:05:37] < Milyardo> o.O [22:05:48] < Peter_W> it's-a-lying to you! [22:06:02] -!- DSPLord is now known as DSP_Lord [22:06:08] < Randomist> [Confused:] Huh? [22:06:28] * Peter_W mutters something about confusing everyone, regardless of the communication medium :/ [22:06:56] * Milyardo is distracted by the confusion and is no longer sad [22:06:58] < Milyardo> :D :D :D [22:07:03] < Milyardo> I'm confused! [22:07:06] < Milyardo> :D [22:07:13] <+Merthsoft> http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicles/1series/5door/2007/visualizer.html i want this [22:07:26] < Tahben> Milyardo - are you depresserating too? [22:07:55] < Milyardo> depresserating? More Confustion!! :D :D :D [22:07:59] <+scabby> Merthsoft, i want this http://www.vw.com/gti/gallery/en/us/ [22:08:09] * Milyardo is sad again becuase he can't spell [22:08:20] -!- Ben_O [~Ben_Oren@ool-4579011a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #tcpa [22:08:23] <+Merthsoft> that's nice too [22:08:30] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Ben_O] by efneTI92 [22:08:31] * Randomist waves to the new guy. [22:08:36] <+scabby> Merthsoft, yah, test drove one on sunday.. BRUM [22:08:50] < Milyardo> You should by me one [22:09:01] < Randomist> Or, possibly, the guy that's been here forever, but whom I don't know. [22:09:07] < Tahben> are you really considering buying one? [22:09:15] < Milyardo> Buy me one too [22:09:21] < Milyardo> Matching pairs [22:09:26] <+Merthsoft> I know I am gonna but a BMW-1 series [22:10:54] < Milyardo> growl [22:11:17] * Randomist growls. [22:11:24] < Tahben> I looked at the x-series briefly. but I learned I really can't drive a car bigger than a honda civic. [22:11:27] * Milyardo growls louder than randomist [22:11:38] * Randomist roars. [22:11:48] * Milyardo bellows [22:11:49] <@E-J> scabby: was that brum sound when you hit to the wall with it or something else? [22:11:52] < Tahben> but then again, I never passed the ambulance driving exam, and left my mark on a few hospitals. [22:11:59] <+Merthsoft> lol [22:12:04] < Randomist> You win. [22:12:14] <+Tari> gcc finally finished compiling [22:12:15] <+Tari> 2:11 [22:12:19] < Randomist> Damn. [22:12:20] * Merthsoft has driven a 22 passenger van. [22:12:26] <+Nikky> Why did you compile gcc [22:12:32] < Milyardo> yeah why? [22:12:37] < Randomist> Ditto? [22:12:44] < Randomist> Using Gentoo or something? [22:12:47] < Tahben> how much bigger than a 15 passenger is that [22:12:57] < Milyardo> (How can you compile gcc when you don't have gcc to compile with? [22:12:58] <+Nikky> Tahben: 7 more passengers [22:13:04] <+Merthsoft> Tahben: 22-15 dear [22:13:24] <+Sir_Lewk> pizza is in the oven :D [22:13:25] < Tahben> this math thing... [22:13:28] <+Sir_Lewk> lol [22:13:34] < Tahben> better than a bun in the oven [22:14:05] < Milyardo> I like buns [22:14:10] < Randomist> Could the TI-83+ SE/84+ hold a dictionary? [22:14:20] <+scabby> e-j, when i put the pedal to the metal! i didn't crash it yet! [22:14:21] < Milyardo> Yeah [22:14:24] < Milyardo> Why not? [22:14:32] < Randomist> I wish DAWG had one. [22:14:36] < Milyardo> oh [22:14:53] < Milyardo> it would be like a UNIX Dictionary [22:15:00] < Randomist> Someone will soon say, "Randomist, make one." [22:15:00] < Milyardo> with no definitions [22:15:07] <@benryves> Randomist, make one. [22:15:28] -!- DSPLord [~darksidep@66.56.250.157] has joined #tcpa [22:15:28] <+Tari> on to glibc [22:15:39] <+Nikky> Why? [22:15:41] < Randomist> Tari, Gentoo? [22:15:45] < Milyardo> cp /user/dict/en-US/words.txt /media/CALCATRON/ [22:16:01] < Randomist> In fact, I place ten Internet dollars on it, that it's Gentoo. [22:16:03] < Milyardo> yes I named my TI-89 Calcaton [22:16:18] <@E-J> calcatom [22:16:20] < Randomist> * is for [22:16:21] < Milyardo> She could be updating gcc [22:16:33] < Randomist> * He [22:16:54] < Milyardo> S?HE could be updating gcc [22:17:04] <+Nikky> :( [22:17:33] <@E-J> conversation is going more and more weird and it's not even friday [22:17:46] < Milyardo> Its because of me [22:17:48] <+Sir_Lewk> it's hump day [22:17:49] < Milyardo> I"m wierd [22:17:52] < Randomist> This channel will probably never have more than once "she"'s in the channel at the same time. [22:17:58] < Randomist> * than one [22:18:07] < Milyardo> Sir_lewk, hump or hemp? [22:18:11] <+Sir_Lewk> hump [22:18:20] * Milyardo humps Sir_Lewk [22:18:21] <+Sir_Lewk> halfway through the week [22:18:30] < Milyardo> oh [22:18:46] * Milyardo halfway humps Sir_Lewk [22:18:48] -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@cpe-066-056-250-157.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 496 seconds] [22:19:53] <+Sir_Lewk> hmm [22:19:59] * Randomist halfway furrows a brow. [22:20:01] <+Sir_Lewk> Opera now passes Acid3 [22:20:25] -!- Milyardo is now known as zpowerLov [22:20:48] <+Sir_Lewk> http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2008/03/26/opera-and-the-acid3-test [22:20:48] -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@cpe-066-056-250-157.ec.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa [22:21:02] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v DSP_Lord] by etaonrish, Remius [22:21:22] -!- DSPLord [~darksidep@66.56.250.157] has quit [Ping timeout: 204 seconds] [22:21:31] < Tahben> what do you guys think of safari for windows? [22:21:55] < Randomist> Ick. [22:21:58] <+Tari> I'm compiling my toolchain since it's gentoo hardened [22:22:00] <+Tari> (don't mind me, just obscene lag) [22:22:11] <@benryves> Tahben: Possibly the worst piece of Windows software I've ever seen, no joke :\ [22:22:18] < zpowerLov> its like installing gnome on windows [22:22:20] < Randomist> benryves++ [22:22:28] < Tahben> benryves - why you say that. [22:22:33] < Randomist> And -- off-topic -- big ick at KDE IV. [22:22:39] <@E-J> benryves: worse than ie? [22:22:48] <+scabby> why doesn't everybody use opera yet?? [22:22:51] <+scabby> it's clearly the best browser [22:22:52] <@benryves> E-J: IE8 rocks :D [22:22:53] < zpowerLov> IE isn't software [22:23:02] < Randomist> 'Cause Firefox III doesn't suck so hard. [22:23:03] < zpowerLov> Its a parasite [22:23:26] < zpowerLov> Firefox III beta isn't bad from what I've tried [22:23:30] < Tahben> opera was a piece of crap last time I used it [22:23:31] <@E-J> i don't like opera's ui [22:23:38] < zpowerLov> Though I think IE8 is pulling out more features atm [22:23:40] < Randomist> Opera sucks with Flash sites. [22:23:55] <+scabby> true, opera does have one or two problems with some flash sites. but flash sites SUCK anyway! [22:24:07] < Randomist> * with anything that uses Flash. [22:24:12] <@E-J> opera sucked with xml sites last time i checked, even more than ie7 [22:24:18] -!- PuFFaLoT [~me@adsl-065-005-205-179.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #tcpa [22:24:19] <+scabby> xml sucks! [22:24:25] < PuFFaLoT> ah ha [22:24:26] <+scabby> anything opera doesn't support sucks!! [22:24:29] < Randomist> When Flash applets load, sometimes I can't even close the tabls. [22:24:31] < Randomist> * tabs [22:24:33] < zpowerLov> XXXML is the Language for me [22:24:47] < PuFFaLoT> can the ti-84 be overclocked? [22:24:49] < Randomist> Sometimes they'll get stuck in one place on the page. [22:25:04] <@E-J> PuFFaLoT: yes, but i don't say how [22:25:07] <@benryves> Randomist: Floating on top of content? [22:25:15] < Randomist> Yes. [22:25:36] <@benryves> Randomist: That's due to the plugin defaulting to windowed control mode. You can persuade it to become windowless by adding the wmode="transparent" attribute. [22:26:09] -!- zpowerLov is now known as Milyardo [22:26:30] < Milyardo> When did I change my name in this channel? o.O [22:26:42] < Randomist> Something better than Flash needs to be invented... or everyone should just go back to GIF animations. :P [22:26:43] <@benryves> As for "anything Opera doesn't support sucks"; go tell that to the slackers at Google. [22:26:52] <@benryves> Randomist: It has been invented, and it's called Silverlight. [22:27:00] < Milyardo> True [22:27:03] < Randomist> Oh, yeah I forgot 'bout hat. [22:27:06] < Randomist> * that [22:27:13] * benryves dons his MS fanboy hat. [22:27:22] <+scabby> only microsoft could come up with a name that stupid [22:27:23] < Randomist> What about for Linux? [22:27:29] <+Merthsoft> <3 benryves [22:27:35] <@benryves> Randomist: Moonlight (Mono implementation). [22:27:38] < Milyardo> Silverlight is okay... [22:27:50] < Milyardo> It needs maturation in my opinion [22:28:10] < Randomist> Moonlight is not bad-sounding... [22:28:17] < Milyardo> and could be really awesome depending on how Open MS will make it [22:28:20] -!- PuFFaLoT [~me@adsl-065-005-205-179.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has quit [Client Quit] [22:28:56] < Milyardo> well [22:29:01] <@benryves> Is WPF an open standard? :\ [22:29:08] < Milyardo> how open the make the development tools [22:29:32] < Milyardo> Avalon? [22:29:34] <@benryves> The CLI and C# are both open standards, at leasy. [22:29:45] <+scabby> just as i was thinking maybe it was time i started learning some .NET they tell you it's obsolete and you need to coding your GUI apps in WPF now.. *sigh*.. i'm sticking with WTL [22:30:08] <@benryves> WPF scares me, frankly. :\ [22:30:09] <+scabby> or i might even go back to MFC now that they've decided to update it [22:30:58] <+Tari> :/ [22:30:59] <+Tari> I think I just tripped a breaker [22:31:04] <@benryves> At least WPF fixes one problem (inconsistent themes), albeit replacing it with another (hard-coded theme files for Luna/Aero/classic). [22:31:40] <+scabby> yea, but you have to throw away all your code/libraries/knowledge and start afresh if you want to embrace these new apis.. sucks [22:32:03] < Milyardo> Starting fresh isn't alwayd bad [22:32:23] <@benryves> Heh, not really; there's a WPF control to host WinForms controls, and a WinForms control to host WPF controls, so the two can interop pretty well. [22:32:28] <+scabby> Milyardo, depends how much time/code you havealready invested.. and how much time you have to relearn [22:32:51] <+scabby> lol WinForms is still a generation ahead of where i am :) [22:32:59] < Milyardo> lol [22:33:56] < Milyardo> perhaps then an abstraction layer will be helpful? [22:33:59] <+Tari> I dunno what happened, but the range lost power after a big sparking sound [22:33:59] <+Tari> but now it's back [22:33:59] <+Tari> just a little scary [22:34:41] < Milyardo> I guess Avalon is already an Abstraction Layer [22:34:42] < Milyardo> .. [22:34:44] < Milyardo> .... [22:34:52] -!- ports [ports@76.206.18.62] has quit [Quit: You know, it's the first time someone suggested I go in that direction!] [22:35:13] -!- ports [~ports@76.206.18.62] has joined #tcpa [22:35:52] <@benryves> Indeed, Milyardo, and should at least be easier to translate to Mono rather than WinForms (which requires simulation of WndProc, ie Windows-specific window messages). :\ [22:37:32] < Milyardo> So an AL would help I guess a little [22:38:20] <@benryves> The enforced seperation between UI and business logic will also help, I think. [22:38:47] < Milyardo> Thats just good programming practice in general [22:39:09] <+scabby> Milyardo, helps to have a framework that forces you down that route though [22:39:50] < Milyardo> MCV FTW [22:40:01] <+scabby> model controller view? [22:40:09] < Milyardo> or is ir MVC [22:40:13] < Milyardo> yep [22:40:15] <+scabby> i thought it was MVC [22:40:34] < Milyardo> Is the order that important? lol [22:40:47] <+scabby> then remember that's the name of a weekly games industry magazine and thought maybe it is MVC after all, then remembered that's the name of a crappy CD shop.. oh the confusion [22:41:30] < Milyardo> i think of SCVs from startcraft [22:41:48] <+scabby> oh and MVC has now been bought by HMV.. TLA FTW [22:41:57] < Randomist> Are there any GTK themes that don't look so... rectangle-y? [22:42:16] < Milyardo> Linsta [22:42:19] < Milyardo> lol [22:42:37] < Milyardo> and ther T-ish lol [22:42:41] < Milyardo> *theres [22:42:42] -!- DSPLord [~darksidep@cpe-066-056-250-157.ec.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa [22:42:42] <@efneTI86> [DSPLord] *waves hand* You will give me +v. [22:42:53] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v DSPLord] by efneTI92 [22:44:19] < Milyardo> I've alwys been a fan of moomex's Themes [22:44:27] < Milyardo> If you like teh dark ones that is [22:45:54] -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@cpe-066-056-250-157.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [22:45:55] -!- Sir_Lewk [~john@c-76-98-224-234.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 556 seconds] [22:47:59] -!- Telroth` [darthandro@75-17-94-38.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [] [22:48:22] -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@cpe-066-056-250-157.ec.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa [22:48:33] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v DSP_Lord] by efneTI92 [22:48:55] < Randomist> I want something with, perhaps spikes emerging from the edges of the windows, or flames or something... [22:49:32] < Randomist> Something... dark and artistic. [22:49:58] < Randomist> And not just another rectangle with gloss. [22:50:00] <@benryves> You mean cheap and tacky? :P [22:50:41] -!- Peter_W [~CalcKing@dialup1823.wnskvtao.sover.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 369 seconds] [22:51:14] -!- DSPLord [~darksidep@cpe-066-056-250-157.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 490 seconds] [22:51:45] < Randomist> The best I've found so far is Dark Alloy. [22:54:53] <@E-J> you should find Dark Auron [22:56:46] < DarkAuron> what about me? [22:57:13] <+DSP_Lord> XD [22:57:14] <@E-J> best there is to find [22:57:40] * Randomist sees no GTK2 themes by that name (or DarkAuron, either). :P [23:02:24] < Randomist> Awesome photos, though. [Saves 'The Final Hour' into his backgrounds collection.] [23:04:09] < Randomist> Why are people so obsessed with gloss? [23:04:56] <+Nikky> <3 gloss [23:05:40] < Randomist> It looks like Kerm designed most of these themes. :P Gloss, gloss, gloss everywhere! [23:08:35] <@benryves> Randomist: Speaking as someone who wants spikes and flames, I don't think you're in much of a position to criticise. :P [23:08:56] * Nikky humps benryves [23:09:50] * Randomist thinks about what benryves said. [23:10:13] < Randomist> Good point. [23:11:17] < Randomist> 'Cept I didn't criticize; I was just... [Scratches his head.] ...spoutin' random. [23:12:02] < Randomist> ...And, um... stuff. [23:12:14] < Spengo> agggh [23:12:20] < Spengo> you know what I hate more than microsoft [23:12:22] < Spengo> apple [23:12:37] <+Nikky> apple sucks [23:13:07] < Randomist> lol, in one channel, some Linux Gigolo was pretending to rant about how awesome Vista is and then a guy named Apple walked in right on cue. [23:13:20] <+Nikky> Vista rules. [23:13:34] < Randomist> * Juggalo [23:14:17] <@benryves> Juggalo? :\ [23:14:28] -!- gh_ [~gh@4va54-2-82-227-187-146.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [gh_] [23:14:44] <@benryves> "a member of the group that has grown up around the fanbase of the Michigan rap/horrorcore group Insane Clown Posse", well, you learn something new every day. [23:15:25] <+Nikky> jigga please [23:16:08] < Barrett> is the keyboard for the x300 full-sized? [23:16:45] < Barrett> I'm trying to figure out which sub-notebook I should get for coding at school [23:16:52] < Barrett> but I want a full-sized keyboard [23:17:03] * Randomist does the job Barrett should be doing and looks on Google. [23:17:11] < Barrett> I guess 13.3" isn't really "sub" but I want a small one [23:17:19] -!- tailsfan [~chatzilla@ool-182ed38d.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #tcpa [23:17:28] * Randomist waves. [23:18:07] < Hunterkll> http://comcastic.myminicity.com/ [23:18:56] -!- tailsfan [~chatzilla@ool-182ed38d.dyn.optonline.net] has left #tcpa [] [23:20:43] < chronomex> BrandonW: got the cable in the mail today [23:20:53] -!- JoelS [~JSeligste@c-76-102-163-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 360 seconds] [23:21:30] < Randomist> Yay, I am a hundred and... fifteen dollars away from a TI-89T. [23:22:40] < Barrett> Please kill me for saying this, but today the thought passed through my head of purchasing a macbook air, and replacing the OS with linux (this is exclusively for coding) [23:22:54] <+Nikky> haha [23:22:58] <+Nikky> you're an idiot [23:22:59] <+Nikky> :) [23:23:46] < Barrett> I wouldn't mind having that hardware at all [23:24:02] -!- JoelS [~JSeligste@c-76-102-163-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [23:24:06] < Barrett> it wouldn't weigh me down at all, and wouldn't take up any room in my backpack [23:24:19] <+Nikky> don't [23:24:33] <+Nikky> the hardware is underpowered [23:24:39] < Barrett> and it's powerful enough to run a few ssh connections [23:24:39] <+Nikky> it sucks [23:24:42] <+Nikky> IT SUCKS [23:24:49] -!- Randomist [~Randeimos@74.196.211.172] has quit [Quit: From the cradle to the grave, \ We are condemned to die \ In front of our maker \ We have to testify.] [23:24:49] <+Nikky> Where's i_c-Y when you need him. [23:24:54] <@benryves> Did a physicist invent it, to go with his inelastic strings, frictionless axes and massless points? [23:25:04] <+Nikky> Yes [23:25:11] < Barrett> all I'll do is ssh to the CS labs [23:25:24] <@benryves> Just buy a mobile phone, Barrett. [23:25:26] <+Nikky> You'd want a screen then [23:25:33] <+Nikky> the macbook air's screen is lame [23:25:39] < Hunterkll> Barrett: The hardware isn't underpowered or bus limited except in regards to harddrive access / seek - and you are stuck with 2GB of ram [23:25:44] < Barrett> benryves: I have putty on my iPaq travel companion, but it's not big enough for any real coding [23:25:45] < Hunterkll> that's about it [23:26:09] <+Nikky> Now I'd ignore Hunterkll, if you were you. [23:26:17] < Hunterkll> tbh you'd do well to pick up a cheab iBook G4 [23:26:18] <+Nikky> He's a pathological liar. [23:26:20] < Hunterkll> cheap [23:26:23] < Barrett> ok, this is why I am also considering the x300 [23:26:36] < Hunterkll> tbh you'd do well to pick up a cheab iBook G4 <--- 12" model [23:26:38] < Hunterkll> OR [23:26:40] < Hunterkll> EEEpc [23:26:43] < Hunterkll> the tiny one [23:26:48] < Barrett> I want a full-sized keyboard [23:26:51] < Hunterkll> Oka [23:26:57] < Hunterkll> 12" iBook has one [23:27:07] < Barrett> ibooks are ugly and I am not getting one [23:27:22] < Hunterkll> my 13.3" widescreen macbook has a full keyboard, 160GB drive, and 4GB of ram [23:27:33] < Barrett> and it's ugly [23:27:33] < Hunterkll> hardly underpowered [23:27:40] -!- Randomist [~Randeimos@74.196.211.172] has joined #tcpa [23:27:49] < Hunterkll> There's hardly much better [23:27:58] < Hunterkll> Unless you go outside of t he x86 realm [23:27:58] <+Nikky> Shut up Hunterkll [23:28:26] * Randomist turns a fan in Nikky's direction. [23:28:41] < Barrett> the only macs I would ever accept as free gifts are the air and the macbook pro (please keep in mind that I would immediately put linux on them) [23:28:53] < Hunterkll> Heh [23:29:11] < Hunterkll> Why is everyone preset against OS X? [23:29:23] <+Nikky> Because it sucks? [23:29:27] < Hunterkll> I bought my first iBook to put linux on it [23:29:33] < Hunterkll> and ended up using OS X :/ [23:30:23] < Hunterkll> The only reason I got it was to debug the preempt kernel setup on powerpc and because it was the cheapest unix workstation I could find :/ [23:30:30] <+Tari> no one bothered to change the default [23:30:31] <+Tari> except Andy_J, of course [23:30:36] * Hunterkll is dying to get a tadpole but they are too damn expensive [23:30:50] < Hunterkll> Oh, I dual booted for a while [23:31:14] < Hunterkll> then said "what the fuck am i doing all this shit for .... this here os x actually does what I need a computer to do" [23:31:42] <@benryves> Argh, balls, spent ages trying to find a bug... silly extra } on a GUID in a setup script :( [23:31:59] < Hunterkll> and now that 10.5 is SUSv3/POSIX(1003.1) compliant, all my well written solaris apps recompile mostly rcleanly [23:32:03] < Hunterkll> it's so nice [23:32:13] <+Nikky> We don't care. [23:33:18] < Hunterkll> Barrett: But in regards to build quality, pick up the unit and compare it to the windows equiv .... [23:33:42] < Hunterkll> It runs windows insanely well, too [23:35:54] < Randomist> For future reference, true or false: Nikky hates Apple. Hunterkll likes Apple as much as Nikky hates it. [23:36:01] <@benryves> Hunterkll: Tried compiling your apps to Windows too? [23:36:17] < Hunterkll> Benryves: With SFU installed it'll possibly work [23:36:20] <+Nikky> Randomist: You're a moron. [23:36:25] < Hunterkll> but you need to install SFU .... [23:36:41] < Hunterkll> and even then it's a shim and not real / kernel level compliance [23:36:50] <@benryves> Hunterkll: Aye, that is a bit of a bugger, especially as Vista isn't supported. :\ [23:37:14] < Randomist> Nikky, why? [23:37:21] < chronomex> woot Subject: Orgasmic Wonderland [23:37:28] < Hunterkll> Benryves: See, I code to standards... =] [23:38:11] <@benryves> Hunterkll: As do I, as do I. ;) Vista comes with components of SFU built in, but I'm not sure how much of it. [23:38:15] < Hunterkll> And yea, I actually had to settle for my macbook. it was the only unix workstation I could afford ... i'm hoping to get a UltraSPARC IIIi based tadpole but they are so damn expensive =[ [23:38:24] <@Andy_J> Tari: ? [23:38:50] <@Andy_J> change what default? [23:40:01] < Hunterkll> OS? Dunno [23:40:30] < chronomex> Spengo: you're going to sakuracon, right? [23:40:36] < Spengo> yes [23:40:42] < chronomex> want to meet sometime? [23:40:43] < Spengo> I believe so [23:40:45] < Spengo> ok [23:40:57] < chronomex> what's a good day / time? [23:41:01] < Spengo> no ide [23:41:02] < Spengo> a [23:41:04] -!- notLeofox [Miranda@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] [23:41:04] < chronomex> okay [23:41:05] < Spengo> lol [23:41:12] < Hunterkll> Sakuracon... wish I could =[ [23:41:18] < chronomex> /msg me sometime if you want [23:41:23] < chronomex> Hunterkll: why not? [23:41:27] < Spengo> lol ok [23:41:32] < Hunterkll> situations [23:41:35] < Hunterkll> XD [23:41:39] < Spengo> chronomex, he lives on the other side of the freaking country for one... [23:41:44] < chronomex> travel? money? school? [23:41:44] < chronomex> bah [23:41:51] < chronomex> that's a bad excuse [23:41:51] < Hunterkll> this whole moving to a different state situation i'm working on [23:41:53] < Hunterkll> oh no [23:41:55] < chronomex> ah [23:42:04] < Hunterkll> i've gone over for tons of cons and shit [23:42:16] < Hunterkll> I uset to attend WinHEC religiously just for the free swag [23:42:17] < Hunterkll> heh [23:42:43] -!- Tari [~Tari@mke-66-97-127-81.milwpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] [23:42:50] -!- Tari [~Tari@mke-66-97-127-81.milwpc.com] has joined #tcpa [23:43:00] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Tari] by efneTI92 [23:43:02] < chronomex> lol [23:43:05] <+Tari> that's better [23:43:05] < chronomex> what sort of swag? [23:43:19] <+Tari> now <1s of lag, not >100s [23:43:25] < chronomex> nice [23:43:30] < Hunterkll> Shirts, pens, free copies of XP, ms prerelease software, hardcopy developer docs [23:43:38] < chronomex> I see. [23:43:40] < Hunterkll> somewhere I have the WinFS dev guide [23:43:40] < Hunterkll> heh [23:43:44] < chronomex> hot [23:48:08] -!- Tahben [~Tahben@ip70-190-15-31.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] [23:52:27] -!- TD-Linux [~wheeeeeee@66-188-199-114.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #tcpa [23:52:38] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v TD-Linux] by etaonrish [23:54:54] -!- JoelS [~JSeligste@c-76-102-163-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 360 seconds] [23:57:51] -!- JoelS [~JSeligste@c-76-102-163-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa --- Log closed Thu Mar 27 00:00:00 2008