--- Log opened Sun Mar 23 00:00:59 2008
[00:07:00] -!- mode/#tcpa [-b *!*Randeimos@74.19*] by efneTI85
[00:07:19] <+BrandonW> How long's that ban?
[00:07:23] <+BrandonW> Whatever it is...make it longer.
[00:07:33] <+chronomex> randomist claims the proxy script has been nuked
[00:08:08] < _krisk_> xom is amused
[00:08:14] < _krisk_> is leofox still active here sometimes?
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[00:08:28] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v scabby] by efneTI85, etaonrish
[00:08:35] <+chronomex> sometimes, _krisk_
[00:08:43] <+patz2009> _krisk_: Many times.
[00:08:47] < _krisk_> cool
[00:08:53] <+scabby> guten abend!
[00:10:05] < _krisk_> hello
[00:18:18] <@Andy_J> BrandonW: I had set it to 1 day.
[00:18:20] <@Andy_J> Non-sticky.
[00:18:35] <@Andy_J> It will probably be extended in light of new information.
[00:18:41] <+BrandonW> It's entirely possible you-know-who used it to spam us.
[00:20:34] <@Andy_J> In which case they're both at fault.
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[00:21:07] <@Andy_J> .n
[00:21:34] <@Andy_J> We could probably get Randomist banned from efnet for that.
[00:21:53] <+BrandonW> Have at it.
[00:21:54] <+chronomex> mmm that's an idea
[00:22:01] <@Andy_J> You do it, you have the logs of him admitting it.
[00:23:12] <+BrandonW> I wouldn't know where to start.
[00:23:21] <+BrandonW> If you want the log, I'll give it to you.
[00:23:26] <@Andy_J> /stats p <his server>
[00:23:35] <@Andy_J> or even his nick should get his server
[00:24:28] <+BrandonW> I don't know what that tells me.
[00:25:09] <@Andy_J> Should summon an ircop, or at least list them to you
[00:25:16] <+chronomex> that tells you the list of ircops ... yeah
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[00:32:01] <+chronomex> nice quit message
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[00:37:35] <+Nikky> 'sup whores
[00:37:49] <+patz2009> Randomist being an ass.
[00:39:29] <@Andy_J> is mirabel having issues?
[00:39:49] <+Nikky> I say we ban netham
[00:40:02] <+Nikky> He has a channel on some shitty network with 50 "spambots" he's "testing"
[00:40:15] <+patz2009> Where?
[00:40:20] <+Nikky> using the same naming scheme that hit tcpa earlier
[00:40:28] <+chronomex> that's not good
[00:40:30] <+Nikky> In fact... it's hitting #tifreakware right now
[00:41:16] < Netham45> well
[00:41:22] < Netham45> um
[00:41:30] < Netham45> mine are actually named after countries
[00:41:37] <@Andy_J> so you admit you have some
[00:41:48] < Netham45> and I'm not using IRCaids that produces the 6 letter psuedo-random names
[00:41:57] < Netham45> Andy_J, yea, but I didn't bring them here.
[00:42:37] <+BrandonW> Why do you idiots use these ridiculous scripts? Seriously, find something to do.
[00:42:40] <+Nikky> He has 49, Andy_J 
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[00:59:19] <+chronomex> hahahaha ahahha I'm laughing on the floor ... http://my.datexx.com/customer/productinfo.html?p=DS-883&d=comparison
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[00:59:59] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Tyler2] by efneTI86
[00:59:59] <+patz2009> lol
[01:00:12] <+patz2009> they're showing that the TI-83 is better in every way
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[01:01:04] <+BrandonW> You can get an 83 for nothing these days.
[01:02:20] <+BrandonW> $30-$40 Buy It Now on eBay if you're dead set on a regular 83.
[01:02:51]  * chronomex nods
[01:04:28] <+patz2009> The TI-83 doesn't have integer division? lol
[01:07:38] <+BrandonW> That site's very wrong.
[01:09:10] < Telroth> int(8/3) ?
[01:10:06] <+patz2009> I think more like 6/2
[01:10:08] <+patz2009> haha
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[01:15:01] <@efneTI86> [Merthsoft] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
[01:15:10] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Merthsoft] by efneTI81
[01:24:17]  * chronomex yawns
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[01:50:55] -!- mode/#tcpa [+b *!~1??@*.*] by efneTI86
[01:50:55] -!- HQAT was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Banned: spammer]
[01:50:59] -!- mode/#tcpa [+b *!1??@*.*] by etaonrish
[01:51:17] <+BrandonW> HQAT wasn't spamming, was he?
[01:52:24] <+BrandonW> He just messaged me...he did nothing wrong.
[01:52:30] <+BrandonW> Exclude him from the ban, whoever set it.
[01:52:39]  * BrandonW glares at Andy_J
[01:52:43] <@Andy_J> ?
[01:52:56] <@Andy_J> aardy did it, and I did set an exempt for him
[01:52:58] <@Andy_J> it was since removed
[01:53:04] <+patz2009> aardvarq set the ban, said that HQAT was "just a casuality"
[01:53:16] <+BrandonW> Why was it removed?
[01:53:27] <@Andy_J> Dunno, mabye it timed out on the bots
[01:53:33] <@Andy_J> but exempts shouldn't time out IMO...
[01:53:55] <@Andy_J> get on the partyline and +exempt for him, I'm in the middle of something >_>
[01:54:21] <+BrandonW> I don't know how to do that. He's leaving for the night.
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[01:58:22] -!- mode/#tcpa [+o Nikky] by efneTI89
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[02:01:09] <@Nikky> Had to set it through the bots
[02:01:15] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v HQAT] by SnowCrash
[02:01:15] <@Nikky> Since they were being too smart for their own good!
[02:01:18] <+HQAT> I'm allowed back in :P hehe
[02:01:31] -!- mode/#tcpa [-o Nikky] by Nikky
[02:01:54] <+patz2009> !quoteurl
[02:01:54] <@efneTI86> http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/
[02:02:30] <+Nikky> HQAT: Thank BrandonW for pointing that out
[02:03:02] <+BrandonW> He messaged me, so he should thank himself!
[02:03:18] <+BrandonW> Although I noticed it first.
[02:03:29] <+Nikky> I did when the ban was first set
[02:03:31] <+HQAT> I'll do that then... :P
[02:03:33] <+Nikky> but I thought they took care of it
[02:03:39] <+Nikky> anyway hqat
[02:03:44] <+Nikky> don't change your nick or ident
[02:03:47] <+Nikky> :)
[02:04:00] <+HQAT> Ok... I wasn't planning to do that anyways...
[02:04:40] <+BrandonW> So who were we really trying to ban?
[02:04:48] <+Nikky> netham's spam bots
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[02:05:13] <+BrandonW> How can we have bans against his bots yet he's still in this channel?
[02:05:23] <+BrandonW> He should be banned from the community.
[02:05:25] <+BrandonW> For this nonsense.
[02:05:40] <+Nikky> Because we're debating if we have enough edvidence to ban him yet
[02:05:51] <+Nikky> meaning... we're looking for aardvarq's input :)
[02:06:05] <+Nikky> Who I know is there
[02:06:12] -!- mode/#tcpa [-bb *!~1??@*.* *!1??@*.*] by efneTI83, efneTI81, efneTI86, efneTI92, efneTI89
[02:06:41] <+chronomex> that's ... a rather broad ban?
[02:06:51] <+Nikky> Yes, sush.
[02:06:56] <+chronomex> okay
[02:07:12] <+Nikky> We fixed i
[02:07:13] <+Nikky> t
[02:07:14] <+Nikky> :)
[02:07:20]  * chronomex nods
[02:07:28] <+chronomex> sure
[02:07:32] <+chronomex> surf even
[02:07:33] <+Nikky> How's break?
[02:07:38] <+chronomex> productive
[02:07:48] <+Nikky> Any grades in yet?
[02:07:57] <+chronomex> nope, and I don't want them either
[02:08:06] <+Nikky> heh
[02:08:18] <+Nikky> I got one in... because I think the prof thought they were due like last wednesday
[02:08:31] <+chronomex> sweetness
[02:08:34] <+Nikky> yeah
[02:08:45] <+Nikky> except our final was written in 4 days during the last week of class
[02:08:50] <+chronomex> HAHAHA
[02:09:21] <+Nikky> I have no idea what I'm getting in one class... at all
[02:09:31] <+Nikky> I've seen no grade scales
[02:09:33] <+mokomull> I had a class where the syllabus was written on notebook paper and photocopied before first class.
[02:09:48] <+Nikky> O.o
[02:09:54] <+Nikky> That's one way to do it.
[02:15:33] <@Andy_J> aardvarq: what's up with mirabel?
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[02:17:02] <+Nikky> You should use V200
[02:17:03] <+Nikky> :)
[02:19:24] <+Nikky> i_c-Y sucks
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[02:40:20] <+Barrett> seen mirabel
[02:40:22] <@efneTI86> I don't know who mirabel is.
[02:40:25] <+Barrett> !seen mirabel
[02:40:26] <@efneTI86> I found 6 matches to your query. Here are the 5 most recent (sorted): nigra911 mirabel leofod harrypott oml[a]. nigra911 (~Miranda@ip913582a4.speed.planet.nl) was last seen changing nicks to leofox on #tcpa 1 year, 110 days, 6 hours, 20 minutes ago.
[02:41:06] <+chronomex> why do the two give different results?
[02:42:47] <+Barrett> I think one does nicks and the other does hostnames... but I could be mistaken
[02:42:51] <+chronomex> ah
[02:43:25] <+i_c-Y> Nikky: :(
[02:43:27] <+patz2009> seen patrickc
[02:43:28] <@efneTI86> I don't know who patrickc is.
[02:43:41] <+patz2009> I think seen goes by bot accounts
[02:43:58] <@Grue> !seen *!*@*mirabel*.*
[02:44:00] <@efneTI86> I found 9 matches to your query.  Here are the 5 most recent (sorted): PollTroll dalek smart___ Steven40 joep_. PollTroll (telnet@mirabel.epfarms.org) was last seen leaving the partyline from efneTI86 212 days, 20 hours, 6 minutes ago.
[02:44:03] <@Grue> ;)
[02:44:19] <@Grue> !seen *!*@*epfarms.org
[02:44:20] <@efneTI86> I found 12 matches to your query.  Here are the 5 most recent (sorted): efneTI86 kaiba Paul_B PollTroll dalek. sjrberg, I'm right here. Quit wasting my time!
[02:45:12] <+Barrett> ?  someone was faking being me?
[02:45:42] <@Grue> !lastspoke *
[02:45:43] <@efneTI86> efneTI86 last uttered a word on #tcpa 39 minutes ago.
[02:45:46] <@Grue> !seen *
[02:45:47] <@efneTI86> I found 11352 matches to your query; please refine it to see any output.
[02:45:50] <@Grue> FAIL
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[02:51:40] <+BrandonW> Is there anyone so bored out of their skull that they'd write a text formatter/parser thingy for me?
[02:51:49] <+chronomex> nope :)
[02:51:51] <+chronomex> tried perl?
[02:51:53] <+BrandonW> Just takes a block of hex text pasted out of a hex editor and converts it to z80 .db statements.
[02:52:10] <+BrandonW> I just don't want to deal with it.
[02:52:13] <+BrandonW> I could, but I'm busy.
[02:52:25] <+chronomex> oh that's easy
[02:52:36] <+chronomex> give me a sample of each end, I'll do it
[02:53:44] <+BrandonW> http://rafb.net/p/4HQ8aE23.html
[02:54:08] <@Andy_J> shouldn't even need perl for it, just use sed
[02:54:08] <+chronomex> blech, I don't want to now
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[02:54:15] <+chronomex> what he said
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[02:54:35] <+BrandonW> I'm pretty sure I said "don't want to deal with it."
[02:54:41] <+BrandonW> I'm not experienced with sed.
[02:55:37] <@Andy_J> if you want that exact format there's more work to it =\
[02:55:50] <@Andy_J> but if you just want a block of dbs
[02:56:11] <@Andy_J> s/([0-9A-F][0-9A-F])/DB 0\1h/g
[02:56:12] <@Andy_J> I think
[02:56:14] <+BrandonW> Any number that starts with a letter gets a leading zero.
[02:56:22] <+chronomex> right
[02:56:23] <@Andy_J> oh, stick a \n at the end of the replace
[02:56:29] <+chronomex> that looks good
[02:56:32] <@Andy_J> meh, an extra leading 0 wouldn't hurt would it
[02:56:39] <@Andy_J> 007h for example
[02:57:32] <+Barrett> $1 not \1
[02:57:38] <@Andy_J> No, it's \1 for sed
[02:58:06] <@Andy_J> Not using PCREs here.
[02:58:40] <+Barrett> oh
[02:59:01]  * Barrett kicks self in the ear for being an arrogant prick
[02:59:48] <+BrandonW> You have to do a lot more to earn that title.
[03:00:52] <+Barrett> No, I deserve it.  I assumed that I knew what I was talking about when clearly I did not.
[03:01:02] <+BrandonW> Par for the course here.
[03:01:03] <+Barrett> even though it looks exactly like a perl regular expression
[03:01:11] <@Andy_J> !seen hqat
[03:01:12] <@efneTI86> HQAT (~123@dhcp-077-250-085-059.chello.nl) was last seen quitting from #tiasm 41 minutes ago stating ().
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[03:02:00] <@Andy_J> put it back you dumb bot
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[03:03:03] <+Barrett> Andy_J: your team lost in basketball
[03:03:13] <@Andy_J> no, really?
[03:03:22] <+Nikky> Your team lost in Basketball
[03:03:25] <@Andy_J> I saw the last minute and a half randomly
[03:03:27] <+chronomex> Andy_J: no, you're supposed to say "ORLY?"
[03:03:37] <@Andy_J> because I was going to watch the pre-race show but the game ran over >_>
[03:04:05] <+Barrett> I saw it on the score bar thing while I was running and thought "oh hey! that's andy_j's school!"
[03:04:40] <+Nikky> lol you guys suc
[03:04:40] <+Barrett> (and yes, Andy_J is the name that went through my head.  Not Andy or anything else.  Andy underscore Jay.).
[03:04:52] <+chronomex> haha
[03:04:57] <+chronomex> I would have thought ajanata
[03:05:00] <@Andy_J> heh
[03:05:23]  * DSP_Lord would have been torn between the two choices at hand
[03:06:20] <+Barrett> http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/images/rubiksde.jpg
[03:06:38] <+Barrett> wow!
[03:07:01] <+chronomex> neat!
[03:07:21] <@Andy_J> BrandonW: http://rafb.net/p/9O7ep795.html
[03:07:26] <@Andy_J> exact format as your example
[03:07:28] <+Barrett> it takes a lot of talent and patience to solve a rubik's cube to random configurations like that
[03:07:40] <+chronomex> you only need one side
[03:07:44] <@Andy_J> And it worked the first time I compiled it >_>
[03:07:46] <+BrandonW> Yeah, but see, that's...Java.
[03:08:08] <+Barrett> chronomex: ok you're right... but it still probably took a long time
[03:08:30] < Telroth> he didn't solve those Barrett
[03:08:33] < Telroth> look closely
[03:08:46] < Telroth> you'll see a random peice lying around
[03:08:53] < Telroth> indicating he took at least one of them apart
[03:08:55] < Telroth> also
[03:09:01] < Telroth> note the stickers everywhere
[03:09:11] < Telroth> so he probably took some off or covered them up
[03:09:12] <+Barrett> Telroth has an eye
[03:09:14] <+Barrett> what losers
[03:09:23] <+Barrett> now it loses all credibility
[03:09:27] <+Nikky> So?
[03:09:36] <+Nikky> oh man... Cubes
[03:09:42] <+Nikky> Katy is addicted to those things
[03:09:52] <+Nikky> I don't see the point in them
[03:09:55] < Netham45> noone cares.
[03:09:59] <+Nikky> Shut up spammer.
[03:10:06] <+Nikky> You're lucky we haven't permbanned you yet.
[03:10:18] < Netham45> if it was me, it'd be goatse getting spammed.
[03:10:20] <+Nikky> In fact, we're voting on it now.
[03:10:28] < Netham45> ok?
[03:10:50] <+BrandonW> ok?
[03:11:02] <+BrandonW> I feel bad for you. Really.
[03:11:02] <@Andy_J> be glad you're still here
[03:11:14] <@Andy_J> soooo many reasons to dispose of you
[03:12:21] < Netham45> I find it slightly funny that you think I spammed. I'm not the one you banned last night for conspiring to spam, nor do I really have a reason to spam here.
[03:12:37] <+BrandonW> You don't have a reason to have tons of spambots either.
[03:12:38] <+Nikky> Yet you still did.
[03:12:46] < Netham45> BrandonW, yea, actually I did.
[03:12:51] <+BrandonW> And what reason was that?
[03:12:54] <+Nikky> You spammed #tifreakware too!
[03:13:01] < Netham45> I was asked to spam the assholes who took over IF/ZB
[03:13:08] <@Andy_J> There is no reason to have a bunch of spam bots, period.
[03:13:10] <+Nikky> I'm sure you didn't.
[03:13:14] <+BrandonW> And you're an immature idiot for responding to such a request.
[03:13:35] <+Nikky> We should just ban him for talking about spambots in a positive light.
[03:13:36] < Telroth> I doubt it was Netham45 that spammed #tifw
[03:13:44] <@Andy_J> We should.
[03:13:48] < Netham45> I think it was Randomist who spammed tifw.
[03:13:59] < Netham45> he then messaged Telroth that I was the one who was spamming it.
[03:14:02] <@Andy_J> Why would he have a bunch of spam bots? He isn't you.
[03:14:08] < Netham45> and he has had some grudge against me recently.
[03:14:17] <+Nikky> I'm sure he didn't.
[03:14:18] < Netham45> Andy_J, why does randomist do any of the crap he does?
[03:14:50] < Netham45> also, I believe he admitted to spamming last night.
[03:15:05] < Netham45> while, no, it wasn't using the massive bots, he still spammed.
[03:15:21] <+Nikky> And guess who the one is that has a track record of usig massive bots?
[03:15:23] < Netham45> and, about half an hour after the program was posted by spengo, #omnimaga got spammed by the program.
[03:15:27] <+Nikky> OH wait, _you_ are!
[03:15:35] < Netham45> Nikky, to be fair, I have never used massive bots.
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[03:16:01] <+Nikky> Wow, his last line was a blatent lie.
[03:16:20] <+BrandonW> blatant*
[03:16:32] <+Nikky> I realized that :(
[03:16:48] <+Barrett> maybe we should set the channel up so that you have to be voiced to speak, and have the bots automatically voice everyone who enters, unless they are on the muted list... it would make an entire new level of punishment
[03:17:05] <+Nikky> haha
[03:17:11] <+Nikky> That's lame
[03:17:13] <@Andy_J> By "muted list" you mean "ban list" right.
[03:17:25] <+Nikky> But I do like the punishment part
[03:17:32] <+Nikky> let them join anyway :)
[03:17:41] <+chronomex> it's easier to enforce than bans
[03:17:59] <+Barrett> it would be so much worse for them to see what they are missing.... we could trash talk them and there'd be nothing they could do about it
[03:18:01] <+chronomex> I've found it to be very effective when I've done that
[03:18:12] <+chronomex> but they could nickchangeflood
[03:18:21] <+Barrett> then you just ban them
[03:18:27] <+Barrett> it's simply an extra level
[03:18:52] <+chronomex> right
[03:19:24] <@Andy_J> You can't change nicks when in a moderated channel and you don't have at least +v.
[03:19:32] <@Andy_J> At least, any decent IRCd doesn't allow you to.
[03:20:09] < Telroth> have yet to see that be enforced on an ircd
[03:20:28] < Telroth> i do know most ircd's don't let you change your nick if you're banned
[03:20:45] <+Nikky> Netham is whining about randomist trying to pin this on him.
[03:20:47] <@Andy_J> Shall we experiment?
[03:20:52] < Telroth> sure.
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[03:20:58] <+Nikky> experiment on blankie 
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[03:21:01] <@Andy_J> Damn.
[03:21:01] <+i_c-Y> o.0
[03:21:06] -!- mode/#tcpa [-m] by Andy_J
[03:21:07] <+i_c-Y> so netham was the spammer?
[03:21:12] <+Nikky> more likely than not
[03:21:16] < Telroth> no proof.
[03:21:21] <+i_c-Y> hes guilty.
[03:21:23] <@Andy_J> i_c-Y: we have circumstantial evidence
[03:21:32] <+i_c-Y> by judgement of the i_c-Y 
[03:21:36] <@Andy_J> I do not wish to discuss it here
[03:21:46] < Telroth> i have confession that randomist was already doing spam attacks
[03:22:04] < Telroth> wouldn't that make him more likely suspect?
[03:22:17] <+i_c-Y> i dont think so
[03:22:19] <+Nikky> Nope
[03:22:20] <+i_c-Y> he spammed omnimaga
[03:22:25] <@Andy_J> weird, unreal doesn't do it either
[03:22:30] <+Nikky> He wouldn't spam here.
[03:23:21] <+Nikky> Most people we would be using beyond a reasonable doubt on
[03:23:28] <+Nikky> but their past actions have lowered the bar
[03:24:19] <+Nikky> Besides, netham's was only 15 minutes.
[03:24:35] <+Nikky> and randomist's for a day due to running an open proxy
[03:25:04] < Telroth> lol
[03:25:10] < Telroth> so, do you auto-ban all tor exit nodes?
[03:25:19] <+Nikky> No
[03:25:32] <+Nikky> tor does have a legit purpose
[03:25:40] <@Andy_J> His wasn't a tor exit node issue.
[03:25:43] <+Nikky> but most efnet servers auto-ban tor exit nodes anyway
[03:25:48] <@Andy_J> Some stupid shit which let other peopel control HIS client
[03:25:51] <@Andy_J> acting like HIM
[03:25:52] <+Nikky> and as Andy_J said... it was his own proxy or something
[03:26:01] <@Andy_J> under HIS nick
[03:26:11] <@Andy_J> He's 180-day-banned from all calcgames botnet channels
[03:26:21] < Telroth> oh.
[03:26:34] <@Andy_J> Working on the paperwork for something more than 1 day for here.
[03:26:44] < Telroth> i guess i won't argue all the technicallities in that then.
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[03:27:16] <+chronomex> good god, we have paperwork?
[03:27:19] <+Nikky> Yes
[03:27:23] <@Andy_J> 19:41:42 < Randomist> [aMMo@randomosity.mine.nu]  you dumbass turn that back off
[03:27:31] <@Andy_J> That isn't tor.
[03:27:57] < Telroth> no, i'll grant you that
[03:28:08] <+i_c-Y> hm?
[03:28:09] < Telroth> my point was that tor is nothing more than an open proxy
[03:28:28] <@Andy_J> I would ban all tor exit points anyway if I knew that's what it was. :)
[03:28:29] <+i_c-Y> hm.
[03:28:54] < Telroth> lol
[03:29:03] <@Andy_J> I would hope bopms would be smart enough to check for tor nodes anyway
[03:29:28] <+Nikky> EFnet does
[03:29:29] <+i_c-Y> you dont think he ran psybnc or something on his computer do you?
[03:29:45] <@Andy_J> No idea.
[03:30:02] <@Andy_J> I don't really care, the point is it allowed others to use his nick.
[03:30:23] <+Nikky> Well, Barrett and I can control v200
[03:30:28] <+Nikky> You can too
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[03:33:33] < Telroth> well, i'm headed to bed.
[03:33:36] < Telroth> take care.
[03:33:42] <+i_c-Y> later.
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[03:33:51] <@efneTI86> [Netham45] wewt
[03:34:02] <+i_c-Y> wtf arent you supposed to be banned?
[03:34:09] < Netham45> it was 15 minutes
[03:34:13] <@Andy_J> Nikky: That's different.
[03:34:22] <+Nikky> I know :)
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[03:41:00] <+Barrett> how much does a 3 pack of tennis balls cost?
[03:42:29] <+Nikky> not much
[03:42:51] <+Barrett> what if I wanted to buy 1000 of them?
[03:42:56] <+Nikky> like 4 bucks
[03:43:03] <+Nikky> well, you'd get a discount
[03:43:12] <+Nikky> so probably 2500 for a 1000 3-packs
[03:43:29] <+Nikky> er, even less
[03:43:34] <+Nikky> 2k perhaps
[03:43:34] <+Barrett> geh... too much
[03:43:43] <+Barrett> I was thinking about making a couch out of them
[03:43:54] <+Nikky> because you can get 48 for about 30 bucks online
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[03:45:02] <@Andy_J> heh
[03:45:06] <@Andy_J> you missed all the fun
[03:45:20] <+i_c-Y> look on price grabber
[03:45:21] < Peter_W> Oh noes :P
[03:45:30] <+Nikky> Barrett: http://www.amazon.com/Economy-Practice-Balls-Tennis-Equipment/dp/B000OMU4P0
[03:46:02] <+Barrett> I'd have to get a ton, though
[03:46:02] <+Nikky> I mean, if you wanted more you could probably talk to your school's tennis program
[03:46:24] <+Nikky> maybe an internal framework and then just two layers of balls along the outside?
[03:46:48] <+Barrett> well... if I distribute them correctly, I may not need a framework
[03:47:04] <+Barrett> make sure each ball is connected on at least 4 edges
[03:47:18] <+i_c-Y> get a ball pit
[03:47:42] <@Andy_J> balls have edges?
[03:47:48] <+DarkAuron> balls are touching
[03:47:51] <+Barrett> when they are connected to other balls, yes
[03:47:55] <+Nikky> You know what he means
[03:47:59] <+Barrett> because they get depressed a little bit
[03:48:09] <+Barrett> and it forms a flat plane/edge
[03:48:38] <+Barrett> the earth has corners?
[03:48:45] <+DarkAuron> that sounds really cool
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[03:49:21] <+Barrett> http://www.remyveenhuizen.nl/  << horrible website, but that's where I got the idea
[03:49:25] < Peter_W> what are you working on?
[03:49:34] < Peter_W> /considering
[03:49:37] <+i_c-Y> happy easter!
[03:49:38] <+DarkAuron> tennis balls...
[03:49:39] <+DarkAuron> [10:50:47pm] <Barrett> I was thinking about making a couch out of them
[03:49:50] < Peter_W> lol
[03:49:53] <+DarkAuron> that could either be a really comfy couch, or really painful
[03:49:55] <+DarkAuron> depending
[03:50:13] <+Barrett> if you click on the tennis ball thingy, there is a bench thing made out of them
[03:50:31] <+Barrett> it definitely has something supporting it, though (round stuff)
[03:50:48] <+Barrett> or you can just look at it here: http://lifehackery.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/tennis-ball-couch.jpg
[03:51:13] <+Barrett> but could you imagine sitting on that if it had something for your back?
[03:51:17] <+Barrett> it would be so comfortable
[03:51:35] <+DarkAuron> tennis balls are kinda hard
[03:51:46] <+Barrett> but the whole thing would bend quite a bit
[03:51:47] <+Nikky> Well, Barrett is kinda hard.
[03:51:57] <+DarkAuron> that sounds bad nikky
[03:51:59] <+i_c-Y> so Barrett , did you go to church today?
[03:52:10] <+Barrett> i_c-Y: no, that's tomorrow
[03:52:22] <+i_c-Y> easter vigil?
[03:52:28] <+Nikky> It's not even 0900 here yet.
[03:52:31] <+Barrett> vigil?
[03:52:34] <+i_c-Y> yep
[03:52:50] <+patz2009> it's just turning 2300 here
[03:52:54] <+Nikky> virgil?
[03:53:13] <+Barrett> as far as I know, we have nothing that uses the term 'vigil' in our church
[03:53:22] <+Barrett> tomorrow is Easter, and that's what the topic will be at church, though
[03:55:36] <+Barrett> nothing against easter vigil, though... sounds like a good thing
[03:57:22] <+patz2009> happy easter to everyone on the east coast :)
[03:57:39] <+Barrett> Easter should be just as big as Christmas, imho
[03:57:44] <+Barrett> if not bigger
[03:58:06] <+chronomex> bigger
[03:58:42] <+Nikky> What is Easter again?
[03:58:52] <+Barrett> as far as christians are concerned, it's much more significant
[03:59:04] <+Nikky> nevermind, I looked it up
[03:59:09] <+Barrett> Christ's resurrection
[03:59:26] <+Nikky> Why is it tied to the first full moon of Spring?
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[03:59:34] <+i_c-Y> patz2009: you too :)
[03:59:47] <+Barrett> jewish calendar
[03:59:52] <+patz2009> I wish I was back in New York
[03:59:54] <+i_c-Y> !t Welcome! | http://tcpa.calcg.org | Worship Jesus, Happy Easter!| Bad idea to spam when 4 ops are active!
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[04:00:03] <+patz2009> I hate Tennessee weather
[04:00:16] <+Nikky> Warship Jesus, you mean
[04:00:16] <+DarkAuron> lol
[04:00:20] <+DarkAuron> it's like texas
[04:00:38] <+Barrett> in the DR, this entire week is huge
[04:01:15] <+Barrett> of course, they celebrate Christ's suffering and resurrection by getting drunk and not working.... but at least they make a big deal out of it
[04:02:01] <+Barrett> and they all make habichuelas con dulce..... mmmmmmmm.... so good......
[04:02:23] < millinao> People actually celebrate easter?
[04:02:23] <+chronomex> now that it's dark I'm going for a walk
[04:02:25] <+chronomex> yay :D
[04:02:44] <+Nikky> Sad sad robot
[04:02:49] <+Nikky> He's a sad sad robot
[04:02:52] <+Nikky> Sad sad robot all alone
[04:02:59] <+chronomex> who, me or millinao ?
[04:03:04] <+Nikky> millinao
[04:03:11] < millinao> Why am I a sad robot?
[04:04:10] <+DSP_Lord> lol
[04:04:18] <+patz2009> loldsp
[04:04:28] <@Andy_J> http://cs.uakron.edu/~unix204/dc_vox_staff.png >_> <_<
[04:05:12] <+DSP_Lord> lol Andy_J
[04:05:13] < millinao> wtf is that
[04:05:33] <@Andy_J> slowly but surely
[04:05:46] < millinao> is that for rock band?
[04:05:50] <@Andy_J> yes
[04:05:57] < millinao> because charts of vocals for that song already exist
[04:06:18] <@Andy_J> If you are refering to katamakel's, they are quite horribly ugly.
[04:06:30] <@Andy_J> They also don't indicate fill zones where one can activate overdrive
[04:06:54] <+DSP_Lord> gogo
[04:07:17] <@Andy_J> He also doesn't have any for downloaded songs.
[04:07:19] < millinao> I like how overdrive echoes what you say
[04:07:27] <@Andy_J> I could easily make a 3s&7s chart
[04:07:43] <@Andy_J> since i have arrangements to get the .mid files for every week's DLC
[04:09:14] <@Andy_J> and mirabel is still down
[04:15:59] <+ports> i wish this guy would hurry up and reply to my ebay offer
[04:16:12] < millinao> haha wtf
[04:16:28] < millinao> from reading about ice skating on wikipedia: A headbanger or bounce spin is performed by the man swinging the lady around with both of her feet off the ice, supported only by the man's grip on her ankle. The lady is elevated and lowered during the spin in a periodic fashion, sometimes with her head coming dangerously close to skimming the ice.
[04:16:34] < millinao> that's epic
[04:23:54] <+Barrett> skim ice!
[04:24:39] < millinao> that's probably one of the most dangerous things ever
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[04:25:47] <+Barrett> skim ice >> http://lh3.google.com/_EfhAC-NhDZ4/RnSusAV90zI/AAAAAAAAD8c/74BQAIb2n-I/s800/Skim+Ice+con+%22Flow%22.JPG
[04:28:19] < millinao> oh haha
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[04:28:38] <@efneTI86> [Merthsoft] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
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[04:28:49] <+patz2009> <3 Merthsoft
[04:29:02] <+Merthsoft> happy easter
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[05:02:46] <+BrandonW> Worship Jesus? What happened to me?
[05:03:08] <@Grue> ...?!
[05:03:11] <+BrandonW> Thou shalt have no other gods before me!
[05:03:13] <+Merthsoft> BrandonW: You didn't die on the cross for me
[05:03:16] <+Merthsoft> asshole
[05:03:17] <@Grue> Oh
[05:03:17] <@Grue> Hah
[05:03:45] <+BrandonW> Come on, what's more important, that or a mass storage calculator?
[05:03:52] <+Merthsoft> hmm
[05:03:56] <+BrandonW> I'm going to hell. :(
[05:03:56] <+Merthsoft> mass storage
[05:04:15] <+BrandonW> Apparently so are you!
[05:04:28] <+DarkAuron> hell is a figment of the imagination
[05:04:30] <+Merthsoft> !t Welcome! | http://tcpa.calcg.org | Worship BrandonW, and I guess Jesus, too, whatever. Happy Easter!| Bad idea to spam when 4 ops are active!
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[05:04:43] <+Merthsoft> and bed time
[05:04:44] <+Merthsoft> night
[05:04:47] <@Grue> !qadd <BrandonW> Worship Jesus? What happened to me? | <BrandonW> Thou shalt have no other gods before me! | <Merthsoft> BrandonW: You didn't die on the cross for me | <Merthsoft> asshole | <BrandonW> I'm going to hell. :(
[05:04:47] <@efneTI86> Quote 1231 added
[05:09:52] <+ports> !qlame
[05:10:06] <+BrandonW> You're lame!
[05:10:44] <+DSP_Lord> lol
[05:18:04] <+BrandonW> Windows keeps requesting LBA 00000002 and 00000040 from me, and I don't understand why.
[05:18:15] <+chronomex> why don't you supply them?
[05:18:20] <+BrandonW> Same boot sector as one of my flash drives, but it requests 00000002 and 0000003F.
[05:18:25] <+BrandonW> I do and it just freaks.
[05:18:33] <+chronomex> that's odd
[05:18:39] <+chronomex> !q
[05:18:40] <@efneTI86> 1187: <@benryves> Thankfully Creative have switched to MTP firmware for their DAPs/PMPs. | <mokomull> MTP? | <@Andy_J> Microsoft Totally Proprietary [Added: i_c-Y at 2008/01/23 09:15]
[05:18:47] <+chronomex> lol
[05:18:50] <+chronomex> so apropos
[05:19:07] <+BrandonW> There's nothing significant at 00000002, though.
[05:19:13] <+BrandonW> It's in the middle of the FAT table on the flash drive.
[05:19:27] <+BrandonW> There's nothing at 00000040 either.
[05:19:35] <+BrandonW> 0000003F is where the good stuff is.
[05:29:03] <+Barrett> can anyone tell me why emacs won't auto-indent if/while/foreach/any new scope in perl?
[05:29:12] <+Barrett> it knows that it's Perl
[05:29:24] <+Barrett> but any time I create a new scope it aligns to the left
[05:29:39] <+Barrett> but all of the normal code within the scope auto-indents to its correct scope level
[05:30:53] <+chronomex> perl is so complex it tends to stump even emacs
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[05:32:08] <+Nikky> perl kicks ass
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[05:33:40] <@efneTI86> [Kira] We called it Sin.
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[05:35:59] <+Barrett> but this code is incredibly simple...
[05:36:12] <+BrandonW> What they're saying is, they don't know.
[05:36:40] <+Barrett> oh good, BrandonW is here.... he'll know the answer
[05:36:55] <+BrandonW> I don't use emacs garbage, so I couldn't say.
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[05:41:34] <@efneTI86> [Spengo\__] We do what we must because we can
[05:46:28] <@Grue> !qsay 1210
[05:46:30] <@efneTI86> 1210: <Randomist> I am like a crack milkshake.  Very bad for you.  I would not recommend getting near me. :P | <Randomist> * cyanide | <Nikky> ... | <Randomist> My 'idiocracy' has left Nikky speechless once again. | <sjrberg> Nikky? Speechless? His speechlessness speaks volumes. | <Nikky> can you please start acting intelligent again? | <Nikky> I like making fun of netham a lot more than you | <Randomist> Wait, what?  I don't think  [Added sjrberg 
[05:53:09] <+BrandonW> I hate Windows.
[05:55:58] <@Grue> Me too.
[05:56:00] <@Grue> I <3 OS X.
[05:56:06] <+Nikky> Me too
[05:56:12] <+Nikky> What a great OS
[05:56:20] <+BrandonW> I don't even want to know what that does with mass storage devices.
[05:56:27] <+Nikky> rapes them
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[06:02:57] <@efneTI86> [Tyler2] I speak fluent dialup.
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[06:13:29] <+BrandonW> I'm stumped.
[06:14:47] <+chronomex> why?
[06:15:17] <+BrandonW> Windows is trying to read the wrong sectors. It makes no sense even when I duplicate another flash drive's communication exactly.
[06:15:24] <+chronomex> that's odd indeed
[06:33:07] <+ports> man
[06:36:24] <+BrandonW> Get ready, everyone, for what ports has to say.
[06:37:54] <+chronomex> I'm loaded and ready
[06:49:50] < Kira> guitar hero for DS o.O
[06:50:19] <+mokomull> so lame :P
[06:50:51] < Kira> you've heard about it moko?
[06:51:03] <+mokomull> yeah
[06:51:14] <+mokomull> four buttons, looks like it's in the GBA slot.
[06:51:21] < Kira> yeah
[06:52:09] < Kira> weird they only have four
[06:52:41] < Kira> disgaea DS o.O.....
[06:52:44] < Kira> wtf
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[06:59:29] <@Andy_J> yeah, it plugs into the gba slot
[06:59:40] <@Andy_J> 4 buttons ftl, better make it really freaking hard
[06:59:48] <@Andy_J> not like I'm going to get a GBA just for that
[06:59:50] <@Andy_J> er, DS
[07:00:05] <@Andy_J> I'd fail miserably anyway, I can't play with index on green anymore
[07:03:01] <+BrandonW> There's somebody who would get a DS just for that?
[07:04:05] <+Barrett> niiiceeeeee follow set!
[07:04:07] <+Barrett> appears to work
[07:06:20] <+Barrett> I even wrote some stuff that might be useful in the future...
[07:06:31] <+Barrett> subroutines that do set operations on string representations of sets
[07:07:17] <+Barrett> (join, union, truncate each element (while keeping only unique values))
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[07:07:54] <+Barrett> with support for lambda
[07:08:15] <+mokomull> Andy_J: If you don't use index on green, what the hell do you use?
[07:08:37] <+Nikky> index finger?
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[07:23:55] <+ports> hi nikky
[07:26:13] <+BrandonW> Alright, the little "turn groups of digits that look like phone numbers into a Skype link" in IE7 is very annoying when opening an extremely large file full of numbers.
[07:27:26] <+ports> what?
[07:27:53] <+BrandonW> What?
[07:37:28] <+Nikky> Hi ports 
[07:40:46] <+Nikky> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/photogalleries/2004282667/9.html
[07:40:49] <+Nikky> lol
[07:43:38] < Spengo\__> wtf
[07:43:49] < Spengo\__> what is this faggot tree
[07:44:07] < Spengo\__> also peeps are disgusting
[07:44:34] <+BrandonW> But so are you, so it's okay.
[07:47:07] < Spengo\__> no u :|
[07:51:08] <+BrandonW> It kills me how that guy thought he could revive the Vera project by discussing a couple of delay routines.
[07:51:57] <+BrandonW> I still don't see on that page how a serious developer is working on it.
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[07:55:56] < Spengo\__> wtf is vera project
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[07:57:30] <+BrandonW> A third-party OS Netham supports.
[07:57:31] <+BrandonW> Enough said.
[07:57:35] <+BrandonW> Or, a plan for one.
[07:57:40] <+BrandonW> I'm trying to look at the code in SVN right now.
[07:57:53] <+BrandonW> There's more written about how it would work than real code.
[07:59:49] <+BrandonW> Yeah, pretty much placeholders for everything.
[08:00:29] <+BrandonW> I don't hate it or anything, but you have to have a developer working on it.
[08:04:24] < Spengo\__> heh
[08:04:40] <+BrandonW> It's not going to write itself through discussion about it.
[08:05:02] <+Nikky> reminds me of calc.org
[08:05:04] <+BrandonW> The TI-OS is 18-20 pages.
[08:05:09] <+BrandonW> You can't just crank that out.
[08:05:49] < Spengo\__> actually with the way the TI-OS looks I wouldn't be surprised if they did just crank it out, haha
[08:06:06] <+Nikky> Not with the math aspects
[08:06:11] <+BrandonW> You'd be surprised what's in it.
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[08:11:54] <+BrandonW> The 68k OS is what's crap.
[08:12:04] <+BrandonW> C-based crap.
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[08:13:18] <+Nikky> C is amazing
[08:13:26] <+Nikky> <3
[08:15:03] <+BrandonW> I agree.
[08:15:13] <+BrandonW> Just not for an 89 series OS.
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[08:28:30] < Spengo\__> 68k os is terribly slow
[08:28:39] < Spengo\__> much slower than it should be
[08:30:06] <+BrandonW> Yes.
[08:30:12] <+BrandonW> Unlike you like watching your dialogs draw themselves.
[08:31:37] < Spengo\__> :P
[08:32:12] < Spengo\__> they are superior in the math department though
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[09:13:17] < Spengo\__> time for sleeps
[09:13:18] < Spengo\__> avocado
[09:13:33] <+BrandonW> Why is Windows reading LBA 40?! It should be reading LBA 3F!
[09:13:38] <+BrandonW> I cannot understand this.
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[09:51:50] <+al_zzzzzz> wow, did I miss a TCPA crapfloop?
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[09:52:08] <+BrandonW> You missed a TCPA crapflood.
[09:53:29] <+al_b> oooh. Who did it?
[09:53:42] <+BrandonW> They suspect Netham.
[09:55:00] <+al_b> you mean, he has enough programming ability to script a crapfloop
[09:55:01] <+al_b> ?
[09:55:40] <+BrandonW> Is crapfloop a real word or are you just mistyping it?
[09:56:02] <+BrandonW> The only programming ability he has is to pull together that script or someone else's to cause it.
[09:58:20] <+al_b> oh wow
[09:58:25] <+al_b> I must be really tired
[09:58:31] <+al_b> to make the same typo twice
[10:01:16] <+BrandonW> Do you know why Windows is trying to read the MBR, which is fine, but then reads the sector AFTER the FAT12 boot sector? I'm 100% positive the MBR is pointing to the correct spot.
[10:01:34] <+BrandonW> I'm using the same information as one of my flash drives, and Windows reads that one fine.
[10:02:17] <+al_b> you know, once upon a time I may have had a clue. But I haven't worked with low level disk stuff for a few years :(
[10:02:40] <+BrandonW> I'm not really sure what else to try.
[10:03:05] <+BrandonW> I even told it to look at LBA 1 instead of LBA 3F, but it still tries to read 40.
[10:03:28] <+BrandonW> Which made me think the issue isn't with the MBR, but everything else checks out, too.
[10:03:53] <+al_b> so what are you trying to do exactly? make a TI emulate a USB flash drive?
[10:03:57] <+BrandonW> Yes.
[10:04:48] <+BrandonW> It took months, but I finally got the lower-level USB stuff working, so now the issue is just the sector logic to bring it together.
[10:05:01] <+BrandonW> If I could get it to actually look at the right sectors for a FAT12 partition.
[10:06:07] <+al_b> BrandonW: Are you still a student? Because if you can pull this off, I seriously think you should shoot TI a resume
[10:06:31] <+BrandonW> No, I graduated college a year or two ago.
[10:06:51] <+al_b> ah. Do you do EE or programming or something like that?
[10:06:58] <+al_b> you're probably the same age as me
[10:07:01] <+BrandonW> Yeah, I'm a developer at a call center. I'm 23.
[10:07:21] <+al_b> same age, yeah
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[10:07:43] <+BrandonW> I'm probably on some blacklist that TI has, anyway.
[10:07:48] <+al_b> the scarey thing is in seven years time we'll be thirty
[10:08:51] <+BrandonW> Don't remind me. :(
[10:09:58] <+BrandonW> I thought maybe it had something to do with the way I'm trying this FAT12 partition, so I changed it to FAT16 and still no go.
[10:10:13] <+al_b> all I can suggest, is the almost completely useless advice of putting it aside for a few days, and let your mind work on it in the background
[10:10:31] <+BrandonW> Although I've apparently convinced it to not look at LBA 2, which it was doing...MBR, then LBA 2, then LBA 40.
[10:10:34] <+al_b> that normally works for me at least
[10:10:51] <+BrandonW> That's what I did to get this far...I put it aside for a month or so, and then it finally hit me.
[10:11:00] <+BrandonW> On...Friday night, I think.
[10:11:12] <+BrandonW> I've done nothing but eat and sleep since then.
[10:11:16] <+BrandonW> Except work on it.
[10:11:34] <+BrandonW> But at least we have a drive letter out of it.
[10:11:39] <+BrandonW> I'm satisfied with that progress.
[10:12:43] <+al_b> you haven't had any problems with timing at all?
[10:13:04] <+al_b> I'd have thought your calculator must take a lot longer to respond then a real drive
[10:13:12] <+BrandonW> I have, but apparently it's very minor...I added some junk instructions which TI had in their code and it started working.
[10:13:23] <+BrandonW> No issues with reading/writing sectors, no.
[10:13:30] <+al_b> I hate that sort of black magic
[10:13:39] <+BrandonW> It's more or less pretending to be a floppy drive, which is slow as molasses, so I'm not concerned.
[10:13:46] <+al_b> ahh
[10:14:17] <+BrandonW> With the mass storage host driver, we were getting something like 200KB/s read speeds.
[10:14:21] <+al_b> oh well, I'm going to play counterstrike and be abused by 13 year old kids calling me "gay" over the mic
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[10:14:32] <+BrandonW> Sounsd like fun.
[10:14:35] <+BrandonW> Sounds*
[10:14:37] <+al_bbl> oh it is
[10:14:53] <+al_bbl> esp when they threaten to go to my house and "kick my arse"
[10:15:32] <+al_bbl> in their shrill prepubescent voices
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[14:39:15] <@Andy_J> mokomull: the much more logical second position of index on red, seeing as it's much easier to reach to green than it is to treach to orange
[14:39:24] <@Andy_J> I do slide up to first position on GR chords, of course
[14:42:51] <+i_c-Y> rb?
[14:42:53] <+i_c-Y> or gh?
[14:50:19] <@Andy_J> does it matter?
[14:50:25] <@Andy_J> they're both the same on guitar pats
[14:50:27] <@Andy_J> *parts
[14:52:09] <+i_c-Y> doesnt hte rockband guitar not work with gh?
[14:52:19] <@Andy_J> strat sucks
[14:52:26] <@Andy_J> les paul ftw
[14:52:43] <+i_c-Y> fuck fixed bridges, yo
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[15:10:38] <+i_c-Y> well if it isnt Lance Bass.
[15:10:40] <+i_c-Y> happy easter
[15:12:22] <+HQAT> Umm does anyone know if there is an easy way to do [16 bit number] % 10? I'm not interested in the remainder...
[15:12:36] <+HQAT> Would I have to use a division routine? 
[15:13:24] <+i_c-Y> if youre not interested in the remainder then why are you using modulus?
[15:14:26] <+HQAT> Oh um I might have said that wrong :P I want to know the biggest multiple of 10 that fits in a 16bit number
[15:14:37] < Barrett> use /
[15:14:40] <+i_c-Y> then youd do division.
[15:15:10] < Barrett> well, you could do it one of two ways in that case
[15:15:19] <+i_c-Y> more than 2 ways. :)
[15:15:22] < Barrett> number/10*10
[15:15:28] < Barrett> or number-number%10
[15:16:04] <+HQAT> Hmm yes.. wich would be easier to code?
[15:16:22] <+al_bbl> is that all you care about?
[15:16:40] <+al_bbl> if speed doesn't matter, just keep subtracting 10 I guess
[15:16:43] <+HQAT> Yeah... I hate coding difficult stuff...
[15:17:14] <+al_bbl> if speed DOES matter, then I'd multiply by the reciprocal
[15:17:26] <+i_c-Y> personally id usually just do this by estimation and shifts.
[15:17:57] <+al_bbl> i_c-Y: can you explain that better please? I've never heard of that before
[15:18:25] <+al_bbl> the best way I know for division by a constant is the reciprocal multiplication method. If there's a better way I'd love to know it
[15:19:20] <+i_c-Y> eh. it does that in the net effect.
[15:19:47] <+i_c-Y> like if you want to scale by lets say 3/2, shift -1, mutiply 3
[15:20:47] <+i_c-Y> like scale by 10, multiply 3, shift -5 which would multiply by 3/32 = .975
[15:20:59] <+al_bbl> yeah fair enough
[15:21:06] <+al_bbl> anyways, 1:30 is sleepy time
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[15:21:10] <+i_c-Y> its estimation as i said before. 
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[15:21:11] <+i_c-Y> night al_bbl 
[15:21:16] <+al_zzzzz> night
[15:21:33] <+i_c-Y> and HQAT , im pretty sure this is code you could take out of ASM in 28 days
[15:22:18] <+HQAT> Yeah I'm checking it now...
[15:22:56] <+i_c-Y> you just have to consider the signed case probably
[15:23:19] <+i_c-Y> which easiest way is to do check signs of original, if same then +, if diff then -
[15:23:32] <+i_c-Y> but since youre always dividing by 10, its just the sign of the original.
[15:23:48] <+HQAT> Umm do I? The 16bit number is a pointer actually... so It shouldn't be signed...
[15:26:10] <+i_c-Y> then that case will reduce to one.
[15:26:46] <+i_c-Y> though it doesnt really matter.
[16:13:52] <+HQAT> Umm the integral of c + f(x) where c is not depended of x... is equal to cx + the integral of f(x) right?
[16:14:46] <+HQAT> Just like int(f(x) + g(x), x) = int(f(x), x) + int(g(x), x)...
[16:14:58] <+HQAT> But maple refuses to simplify it to that form...
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[16:27:27] <+BrandonW> I wish I knew.
[16:27:30] <+BrandonW> I forgot all math.
[16:30:32] <+HQAT> Hehe... its just weird since almost every schoolbook or lookup table states that rule... but maple won't apply it... if instead of f(x) and g(x) I use defined functions it does apply the rule... :S
[16:31:52] <+BrandonW> I've never even used Maple, but based on what you said, I'd say that Maple is just stupid.
[16:32:16] < Barrett> TI-89 > Maple
[16:32:39] <+HQAT> Yeah maple is stupid or I'm using it wrong :P I don't have a ti89... :P
[16:33:08] <+HQAT> Are there ti89 emulators?
[16:33:17] < Barrett> is the "subset of" character not an ascii character?
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[16:35:47] <@Andy_J> none of the set characters are
[16:36:24] <+i_c-Y> Maple is superior to the TI-89
[16:36:52] <+i_c-Y> HQAT: you have to use a simplify command - i use mathematica though.
[16:37:09] < Barrett> how sad... I couldn't even find it on the Character map
[16:37:14] <+BrandonW> HQAT, yes, but you'd have to have an 89 ROM.
[16:37:20] <+i_c-Y> and in most cases, you can treat the indefinite integral as a linear / affine operator.
[16:37:30] <@Andy_J> Barrett: surely if you group by unicode subgroup it'd be under mathematical symbols
[16:37:34] <+BrandonW> Which...*cough* in the interest of development, I could send you.
[16:37:41] <+i_c-Y> so int(c+ f(x) , x) => cx + d + int(f(x),x) where d is a constant.
[16:38:06] <@Andy_J> Or you could just download the OS update file from TI and be less blatantly illegal about it.
[16:38:24] <+BrandonW> Do any emulators take upgrade files?
[16:38:32] < Barrett> what the.... Intersection but no union?
[16:38:44] <@Andy_J> VTI does, or at least used to. I haven't tried it with any of the decently recent OSes
[16:38:58] <@Andy_J> Barrett: Oh, right. Here's Union: U
[16:39:02] <+BrandonW> Yeah, I seem to remember VTI doing it, but who knows about the newest one.
[16:39:06] <@Andy_J> That'd be shift-u.
[16:39:19] < Barrett> nifty
[16:39:33] < Barrett> ?
[16:39:33] <@Andy_J> I forgot what Union looked like for a minute >_>
[16:39:38] < Barrett> can you see that? dangit... question mark
[16:39:50] < Barrett> on the Batang font I found the proper subset symbols
[16:39:52]  * Andy_J reminds everyone that efnet is an ASCII network
[16:41:09] < Barrett> yeah, Batang has everything
[16:42:34] <@Andy_J> Hmm.
[16:42:45] <@Andy_J> Facebook informs me that today is Grue's birthday.
[16:43:29] <+i_c-Y> give him a birthday kick
[16:43:37] <@Andy_J> I don't think the bots will like that.
[16:43:45] <+i_c-Y> try it anyway!
[16:43:54] <@Andy_J> I'd rather not.
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[17:37:41] <@efneTI86> [DSPLord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
[17:37:51] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v DSPLord] by Remius
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[17:44:06] <@efneTI86> [Spengo\__] We do what we must because we can
[17:46:34] <@Andy_J> We do what we can because we must!
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[18:15:11] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v patz2009] by efneTI83
[18:15:13]  * patz2009 calls upon the USB god...
[18:17:11] <+i_c-Y> see
[18:17:16] <+i_c-Y> technology is a godless thing
[18:17:19] <+i_c-Y> and nobody is there to help you
[18:17:34] <+patz2009> Then what the hell is the topic all about?
[18:19:11] <+i_c-Y> !t Welcome! | http://tcpa.calcg.org | Happy (insert holiday here) !
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[18:21:23] <+patz2009> !lastspoke BrandonW
[18:21:24] <@efneTI86> BrandonW last uttered a word on #tcpa 1 hour, 42 minutes ago.
[18:23:50] <+i_c-Y> aardvarq: can we have the !lastspoke not count joins as spoke
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[18:37:12] <@efneTI86> [Tyler2] I speak fluent dialup.
[18:37:22] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Tyler2] by efneTI81
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[18:40:49] < Barrett> I need to filter digg in an unreversible way so that I'm not tempted to go there anymore
[18:41:04] <+patz2009> Modify your DNS
[18:41:14] < Calgar> blackhole it
[18:41:44] <+patz2009> My solution is more feasible... >_>
[18:41:53] < Barrett> the complete idiocy of an entire group of people on any subject matter is enough to piss me off for an entire day
[18:42:15] <+patz2009> Then, modify your DNS to redirect you to goatse instead
[18:42:23] <+patz2009> That will make you not want to visit it.'
[18:42:31] <+patz2009> Unless you like that kind of thing.
[18:42:43] < Barrett> I'll forget about it while someone is in the room
[18:42:52] < Barrett> but that's a good idea
[18:43:02] < Barrett> unfortunately it's reversible, though
[18:43:16] <+patz2009> Unless you put effort into it.
[18:44:01] <+patz2009> Andy_J has his DNS to redirect on MySpace
[18:44:10] < Barrett> digg.com now points to my server
[18:44:41] < Barrett> now if only I could force myself to forget that I did that
[18:45:08] < Barrett> (like how I envision a master plan of setting my clock a few minutes forward so that I'm on time, but somehow forcing myself to forget about doing it)
[18:45:43] < Calgar> Barrett: there are drugs to induce short term memory loss
[18:45:59] <+patz2009> Yeah, go take some Ketamine
[18:46:21] < Barrett> I have to remember to pick my sister up from the airport, though
[18:46:46] <+i_c-Y> http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=88594
[18:47:27] <+patz2009> i_c-Y: xD
[18:47:36] <+i_c-Y> i'll be more than happy to hit you with a club in the head, Barrett , that should cause some short term memory loss
[18:47:45] < Barrett> fat people don't realize when they are touching people
[18:48:03] <+Merthsoft> i do
[18:48:07] < Barrett> it's really annoying... like standing in line next to a fat person.... they keep pushing you and don't even realize it
[18:48:14] <+Merthsoft> i do
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[18:48:40] <@efneTI86> [netham45] wewt
[18:48:43] < Calgar> Barrett: either that or they just dont give a shit
[18:48:46] <+patz2009> Merthsoft: Do you accidentally crush 2 year old children?
[18:48:50] <+Merthsoft> umm
[18:48:53] <+Merthsoft> i don't think so
[18:49:34] < Barrett> ok, they don't realize that it really bugs people who have much less mass than them... less inertia to keep them where they are
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[18:49:45] <+Merthsoft> i do
[18:50:21] < Barrett> Merthsoft: so you realize all of these things, but do you stop doing them once you've realized it?
[18:50:27] < Barrett> if so, then you are the exception
[18:50:46] <+Merthsoft> i don't do it in the first place. I'm very well aware of my body in space
[18:50:59] < Barrett> I salute you
[18:51:01] < Calgar> Merthsoft: is your BMI over 40?
[18:51:05] <+Merthsoft> probably
[18:51:18] < Calgar> 0_O
[18:51:23] < Barrett> s/fat people/most fat people/g
[18:51:56] <+Merthsoft> oh man
[18:52:02] <+Merthsoft> it's under 40
[18:52:42] < Barrett> then you aren't even that fat
[18:52:55] <+Merthsoft>     *  Underweight = <18.5
[18:52:55] <+Merthsoft>     * Normal weight = 18.5-24.9
[18:52:55] <+Merthsoft>     * Overweight = 25-29.9
[18:52:55] <+Merthsoft>     * Obesity = BMI of 30 or greater
[18:53:03] <+Merthsoft> i'm over 30, under 40
[18:53:24] <+i_c-Y> oh wow. im right at the border.
[18:53:26] < Calgar> 35-40 is clinically obese, over 40 is morbidly obese
[18:53:39] <+Tari> 18.7 :)
[18:53:44] < Barrett> this standard calculator is either way off, or the definition of overweight is off
[18:53:56] < Barrett> it says I'm 27... but I'm not even that fat... I'm just big...
[18:54:38] < Calgar> barrett: it only works for people with a "normal" amount of muscle for their height, muscle weighs a lot more than fat
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[18:55:22] <+Merthsoft> that's why mine's a little high, too... I have a lot of muscle under all the fat
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[18:55:58] < Barrett> I'll just change the javascript
[18:57:02] <+i_c-Y> http://youtube.com/watch?v=7ebIW8S4jq4 
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[18:58:55] < Peter_W> Agghh, AVG refuses to update properly
[18:59:04] < Peter_W> I've tried quite a variety of things to fix it..
[19:01:05] <@Grue> Anti-virus? Pshaw
[19:01:46] < Peter_W> hehe, yeah it's not like it ever finds anything..
[19:01:49] < Peter_W> but still
[19:04:30] <+ports> anyone here use limewire?
[19:04:35] <+Tari> eeew
[19:05:04] <+i_c-Y> not anymore.
[19:05:58] <+ports> if youd like to.. you should check out Cabos
[19:06:15] <+ports> it's a really nice spyware free limewire app.  he just released a new update
[19:07:32] < Barrett> what does it mean in google maps traffic if the road looks like an extra road on top of it?
[19:07:57] < Barrett> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=Provo,+UT&daddr=salt+lake+city&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=25.605903,58.447266&ie=UTF8&ll=40.560243,-111.882019&spn=0.382375,0.913239&z=11&layer=t
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[19:10:19] <@efneTI86> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[19:12:38] <+patz2009> Barrett: Highway?
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[19:13:09] < Barrett> well, it has something to do with traffic
[19:13:18] < Barrett> if you unclick traffic they go away
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[19:18:11] <+i_c-Y> i should really set youtube to redirect to localhost.
[19:19:01] < Barrett> forced-self-moderation is the new fad
[19:19:03] < Barrett> do it
[19:19:20] <+patz2009> an hero is the new fad
[19:19:21] <+patz2009> do it
[19:21:19] <+i_c-Y> no no no
[19:21:23] <+i_c-Y> an hero is an old fad
[19:21:25] < Barrett> you could even set up a youtube.com virtualhost and have every video be the rick-rolled video
[19:21:47] <+patz2009> yeah, have it redirect to http://www.internetisseriousbusiness.com
[19:21:48] < Barrett> oh my gosh.  best prank ever!
[19:22:15] <+i_c-Y> vtec is the new fad, patz2009 
[19:22:19] <+i_c-Y> vtech*
[19:22:40] <+patz2009> everyone was an hero at vtech
[19:23:07] < Barrett> you set up a complete youtube clone, with all of the navigation from the home page and everything
[19:23:16] < Barrett> but when you get to a video page, it's that one
[19:23:27] < Barrett> then you change /etc/hosts on your coworkers and roommates from time to time
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[19:24:39] <+patz2009> just let them browse youtube normally, but just have anything http://www.youtube.com/watch redirect to a rickroll
[19:25:53] < Barrett> can you do that with /etc/hosts?
[19:26:04] < Barrett> i thought it was just sub/domains
[19:26:05] <+patz2009> iono
[19:26:15] < Barrett> although that is a good idea
[19:29:15] <+HQAT> Umm what is the best/easiest way to NOT/FLIP the Z flag?
[19:31:03] <+HQAT> There is an instruction for the C flag... but not for the zero flag... I guess I could always just make a conditional jump that flips it...
[19:32:36]  * patz2009 has balls of steel.
[19:32:48] <+HQAT> Or load F into A by pushing it and messing with the stack pointer and then apply NOT... but I guess that is far more complicated :P
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[19:36:35] < FireFreek> Sorry for a probably noob question, but: How do people create Flash programs? I mean you see them all around, but I don't see anywhere how people make them.
[19:37:00] <+HQAT> Umm they are basicly the same as asm programs with some small differences...
[19:37:32] <+HQAT> You will need a special header and you will have to "sign" them with a special program...
[19:37:44] <+patz2009> Which is available on TI's website.
[19:38:01] < FireFreek> The SDK?
[19:38:08] <+HQAT> yes..
[19:38:08] <+patz2009> Indeed.
[19:38:15] < FireFreek> Ok then, thanks
[19:38:23] <+i_c-Y> if you wanted to flip bits, just xor against 1. if its 0, you get 1, if its 1 you get 0
[19:38:27] <+i_c-Y> flip a bit*
[19:38:49] <+patz2009> i_c-Y: You can't easily do that on flags.
[19:39:05] <+i_c-Y> oops i read bit.
[19:39:08] <+Tyler2> Um, not you mean?
[19:39:12] <+HQAT> I was just about to say that :P But nm I made it to work using a conditional jump..
[19:39:28] < FireFreek> So... is there any way to run a BASIC program as a flash program?
[19:39:47] < FireFreek> Or will I have to port it?
[19:39:57] <+patz2009> For that, you'll need a program known as BASICBuilder
[19:40:05] <+i_c-Y> Tyler2: yes, that is a not. but when you xor a bit against 1, you perform a not.
[19:40:22] < FireFreek> Does it run any faster?
[19:40:28] <+patz2009> Not really.
[19:40:33] <+i_c-Y> but theres no point in really saying that
[19:40:40] < FireFreek> Ok, well that's all the questions I have, thanks!
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[19:40:45] <+i_c-Y> bbl hw :-/
[19:41:02] <+patz2009> roflhw
[19:41:49] <+HQAT> Btw my CAS can also do integration on basic functions now... but nothing to complicated yet :P
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[21:04:32] <+Nikky> I see #omnimaga is still blaming "#tcpa" for spam attacks.
[21:04:40] <+Nikky> This is just silly.
[21:05:02] <+patz2009> Yeah, we also attacked ourselves too.
[21:05:10] <+patz2009> Just to make us look innocent.
[21:05:17] <+Nikky> Yep, we're that cool.
[21:05:29] <+Nikky> :)
[21:06:15] <+patz2009> Doesn't matter. #tcpa wins over #omnimaga anyday.
[21:07:38] <+i_c-Y> wait what?
[21:07:44] <+i_c-Y> Nikky: link
[21:09:52] <+Nikky> no
[21:10:16] <+Nikky> <DJ_Omnimaga> if it comes back very soon i may do it a private board for a while due to people from #tcpa coming to spam crap
[21:11:17] <+i_c-Y> what channel is htis
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[21:14:35] <@Grue> He needs a life. Seriously.
[21:14:42] <@Grue> OH NOES DRAMA
[21:14:46]  * Grue grumbles
[21:15:27] <+i_c-Y> he should make a soap opera
[21:15:41] <+i_c-Y> mostly consisting of a certain someone drowning
[21:15:48] <+i_c-Y> the person who brought this horror upon the tcpa
[21:15:52] <+i_c-Y> and is from a drowning country
[21:16:03] <+Nikky> netham?
[21:16:15] <+Nikky> I don't think they have water in Colorado.
[21:16:33] <+i_c-Y> nah, Leofox is the reason why omnimaga says we're behind the flooding
[21:16:55] <+Nikky> oh, haha
[21:17:36] <+i_c-Y> cause apparantly he told kevin that i visited *chan and therefore he concluded Anonymous was behind the attacks and i was spearheading an effort or something
[21:18:02] <+i_c-Y> and your nice job spamming omnimaga comment combined with my yeah or something like that comment further cemented this belief
[21:18:18] <+patz2009> lolwut
[21:18:22] <+Nikky> :)
[21:18:33] <+Nikky> Okay, so maybe we did seed the idea that we might have done it.
[21:19:14] <+i_c-Y> its just an obscure chain of events
[21:19:26] <+patz2009> Maybe we should get a personal army to attack omnimage
[21:19:34] <+patz2009> omnimaga*
[21:19:39] <+i_c-Y> oh yeah, and we had netham in here. maybe he also thought we were trying to take him away from him
[21:19:49] <+i_c-Y> though we just want to get netham to gtfo
[21:20:18] <+Nikky> patz2009: We don't care enough.
[21:20:28] <+Nikky> They don't understand that... we really could care less.
[21:20:50] <+Nikky> We have lives, which doesn't include starting stupid bot spam "attacks."
[21:21:00] <+Nikky> I mean, come on
[21:21:08] <+Nikky> If an American blows up a building.
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[21:21:17] <+Nikky> I blame the person, not the "United States."
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[21:33:28] < Leofox> i_c-Y: wait what
[21:34:21] < Leofox> <i_c-Y> nah, Leofox is the reason why omnimaga says we're behind the flooding
[21:34:32] <+Nikky> We blame you.
[21:34:39] < Leofox> Kevin was suspecting you guys since forever
[21:34:45] < Leofox> if anything, it'syour fault Nikky 
[21:34:50] <+Nikky> Mine?
[21:35:03] < Leofox> youve been milking the lulzcow for ages
[21:35:26] < Leofox> you know how kevin thinks
[21:35:37] <+Nikky> It's always my fault?
[21:35:42] < Leofox> exactly
[21:35:51] <+Nikky> I have no idea why.
[21:36:00] <+Nikky> I've never spammed anything!
[21:36:05] < Leofox> well the spam attack was done from an account with your picture
[21:36:32] <+Nikky> haha, I forgot about that
[21:36:38] <+Nikky> Of course, that picture is on every forum I'm on.
[21:37:08] <+Nikky> You need to tell him that it isn't us.
[21:37:12] <+Nikky> And is probably netham
[21:37:30] < Leofox> i discovered a link to www.unitedti.org on /i/ lately
[21:37:39] <+Nikky> haha
[21:37:47] < Leofox> according to kevin there was a link to omnimaga too
[21:37:49] <+Nikky> There's probably a link to every site ever somewhere on a chan
[21:38:39] < Leofox> i didnt see too many sites posted near the time of the attacks
[21:39:11] <+Nikky> Well, I'm sure it's still our fault.
[21:52:04] < Barrett> I didn't lose my marbles afterall!
[22:08:36] < Leofox> "losing your marbles" sounds like slang for being castrated
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[22:11:12] <+Nikky> Barrett: Why would you?
[22:11:32]  * Nikky kisses mokomull 
[22:12:43] < mokomull> hi
[22:13:10] <+Merthsoft> Nikky: :(
[22:13:16] <+Merthsoft> are you cheating on me'
[22:15:36] <+Nikky> Yes
[22:16:06] <+Merthsoft> O_o;
[22:20:14] <+BrandonW> I was googling for information on this MSD issue and came across a Wikipedia entry for usb8x.
[22:20:23] <+BrandonW> And a link to it from the USB_mass_storage_device_class page.
[22:20:47] <+Merthsoft> !t Welcome! | http://tcpa.calcg.org | Happy (insert holiday here)!
[22:20:49] -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome! | http://tcpa.calcg.org | Happy (insert holiday here)!
[22:34:04] <+BrandonW> "Sandurz! Sandurz, you've got to help me! I don't know what to do! I can't make decisions! I'm a president!"
[22:41:04] <+TD-Linux> !t Welcome! | http://tcpa.calcg.org | Happy (insert Easter-like holiday here)! | News Flash: Nikky cheats on Merthsoft
[22:41:05] -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome! | http://tcpa.calcg.org | Happy (insert Easter-like holiday here)! | News Flash: Nikky cheats on Merthsoft
[22:41:25] <+BrandonW> That's going to confuse anyone new that comes in.
[22:41:32] <+TD-Linux> well
[22:41:36] <+BrandonW> well
[22:41:39] <+patz2009> BrandonW: I got some batteries now :P
[22:41:42] < Peter_W> well, that's a deep subject
[22:42:01] <+TD-Linux> I couldn't think of anything else, and I have to use !t once in a while, otherwise I might forget that it's not !x or something
[22:42:14] < Peter_W> lol
[22:42:46] <+Merthsoft> :(
[22:42:52] <+TD-Linux> :)
[22:42:56] < Peter_W> :)(
[22:43:03] <+TD-Linux> ():
[22:43:11] < Peter_W> >.>
[22:43:20] <+TD-Linux> ^.^
[22:43:36] < Peter_W> Now taking bets on when this gets old..
[22:43:39] <+Tari_> c-c-c-combo.. breaker?
[22:43:54] <+TD-Linux> o.o
[22:44:00] < Peter_W> where is that /from/ anyway?
[22:44:09] <+i_c-Y> combo breaker?
[22:44:31] <+i_c-Y> i think killer instinct
[22:46:20] < Leofox> ok i found out
[22:46:26] < Leofox> it was all i_c-Y's fault
[22:46:36] <+i_c-Y> hm?
[22:46:48] < Leofox> the thing you were trying to blame on me
[22:47:03] < Leofox> and netham
[22:48:26] <+i_c-Y> http://tcpa.pastebin.com/m1d73fdb8
[22:48:46] <+i_c-Y> Mar 04 20:47:21 <Leofox>	now he thinks you posted about omnimaga on 711chan/i/
[22:48:46] <+i_c-Y> Mar 04 20:47:22 <i_c-Y>	ohh. thats why he thought the Nikky thing was a chan raid
[22:48:51] <+i_c-Y> im innocent!
[22:49:03] <+i_c-Y> and Leofox is working for the Omnimaga
[22:50:14] < Leofox> im not working for anyone
[22:50:34] < Peter_W> In my humble opinion, we should simply stop discussing the matter... ... if discussion were likely to help, it should have by now, don't ya think?
[22:50:58] <+Merthsoft> Peter_W++
[22:51:01] <+BrandonW> Yes.
[22:51:13] < Peter_W> I don't even understand how this whole conflict arose, nor do I believe [m]any other peopld do.
[22:51:27] < Peter_W> people* -- blah
[22:51:40] <+BrandonW> Kevin's crazy and blames us for his troubles, and won't drop it.
[22:51:45] <+Nikky> And he hates i_c-Y 
[22:51:53] <+Merthsoft> who doesn't?
[22:51:55] <+Nikky> and thinks that i_c-Y cares enough to actually do anything
[22:52:06]  * Peter_W sighs
[22:52:18] <+BrandonW> You started it this time, Peter_W!
[22:52:26] <+Merthsoft> but this is the opposite of stopping discussion
[22:52:28] <+Nikky> all your fault!
[22:52:45] <+Nikky> Excuse me while I post omnimaga irc on every chan board I can think of
[22:52:46] <+Nikky> brb
[22:52:55] <+Nikky> uh, I can't think of any
[22:52:57] <+Nikky> :(
[22:53:05] <+Merthsoft> lol
[22:53:23] <+Nikky> Must be i_c-Y then
[22:53:28] <+Nikky> filthy new yorker
[22:53:31] < Peter_W> BrandonW: I beg to differ :p
[22:53:50] <+BrandonW> That last statement was just begging for an explanation!
[22:54:47] < Peter_W> And simultaneously calling for an end to the matter.. heh. What I mean is that it was already being discussed, thus I didn't 'start' anything :)
[22:55:04] <+Merthsoft> indeed
[22:55:04] < Peter_W> *wanders off*
[22:55:29] <+TD-Linux> 711chan?
[22:55:36] <+TD-Linux> isn't that the really weird thing?
[22:55:46] <+TD-Linux> like weirder than 7chan /b/ weird?
[22:55:52] <+Nikky> I have no idea
[22:55:58] <+Nikky> The only one I know about is /b/
[22:56:02] <+BrandonW> I try not to understand any of it.
[22:56:03] <+Nikky> on 4chan
[22:57:15] <+Tari_> aah
[22:57:18] <+i_c-Y> and that is why you will remain weak, BrandonW 
[22:57:29] <+Tari_> 711chan was created by refugees from /b/
[22:57:32] <+Tari_> it must be horrible
[22:57:42] <+BrandonW> If avoiding the chan sites makes me weak, I'm proud of it.
[22:58:49] <+TD-Linux> there are sick things on /b/, good for you
[22:59:21] <+TD-Linux> I was only there once
[22:59:40] <+TD-Linux> I'm lucky I didn't kill myself
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[23:04:43] < _Dig|ghst> methinks no one is here atm
[23:05:39] <+Merthsoft> there are 57 people here
[23:05:41] <+Merthsoft> dumbass
[23:05:54] <+patz2009> !visitors
[23:05:56] <@efneTI86> This channel's maximum occupancy was achieved on Wed Nov 14 02:17:13 2007 at 71 users. Current count is at 57.
[23:06:08] < _Dig|ghst> signing on and being active are two entirely different things
[23:06:19] <+Merthsoft> you just said "here"
[23:06:19] <+BrandonW> We were all sitting and waiting for you to start talking.
[23:06:24] <+Merthsoft> you didn't say being active
[23:06:32] <+Merthsoft> there are currently 57 people "here"
[23:06:33]  * _Dig|ghst slaps BrandonW
[23:06:36] <+Merthsoft> as in, in this channel
[23:06:52] < _Dig|ghst> holy crap you guys are bored if you're debatign sementics
[23:07:11] <+BrandonW> You and Merthsoft are the only ones doing that.
[23:07:22] < _Dig|ghst> seagate vs hitachi? any takers?
[23:07:47] <+i_c-Y> hard drives are usually a personal preference thing
[23:07:50] <+patz2009> seagate > hitachi
[23:07:50] <+i_c-Y> but go seagate.
[23:08:04] <+BrandonW> Both of my 1.2GB Seagates continue to work.
[23:08:10] < _Dig|ghst> I have 3 or four brans running
[23:08:11] <+Merthsoft> TI-84+SE > seagate > hitachi
[23:08:15] < _Dig|ghst> need a new internal drive
[23:08:30] < _Dig|ghst> almost all 7200 RPM 2.5in drives are extinct
[23:08:31] <+i_c-Y> though i havent had problems with the hitachi in my laptop, my parents are using an IBM, my dad's laptop and old laptop are still using IBM - Hitachi
[23:08:45] <+i_c-Y> my external is hitachi as is my old desktop
[23:09:37] <+i_c-Y> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010150380+1035507776&name=7200+RPM
[23:09:42] <+i_c-Y> theres a few, but theyre mostly sata
[23:10:32] < _Dig|ghst> regualr ata was what I meant
[23:10:44] < _Dig|ghst> there used to be 100 GB drives...
[23:10:45] <+i_c-Y> theres one on there but out of stock
[23:10:51] <+i_c-Y> oh check zipzoomfly
[23:10:58] < _Dig|ghst> can't seem to find any anywhere except in teh uk
[23:11:20] <+i_c-Y> well its not 7200RPM , but they have 120gig pata for 65
[23:11:34] <+i_c-Y> HITACHI Travelstar 0A28418 
[23:11:42] < _Dig|ghst> would appreciate teh speed bump
[23:11:50] < _Dig|ghst> running 5400 RPM atm
[23:12:20] <+i_c-Y> http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=100528-1
[23:12:24] <+i_c-Y> but its out of stock
[23:12:31] <+i_c-Y> check fatwallet and places too
[23:12:38] <+i_c-Y> clubit, tigerdirect / compusa
[23:12:46] < _Dig|ghst> in the process
[23:13:27] <+i_c-Y> a friend of mine bought one around i suppose february so they should be still around. 
[23:13:46] < _Dig|ghst> just pita to find
[23:13:48] <+patz2009> nom nom nom
[23:14:24] <+i_c-Y> you could try direct from companies such as toshiba
[23:14:27] <+i_c-Y> or your laptop manufacturer.
[23:14:53] < _Dig|ghst> doubt apple has any, but I'll check later as they'll be full msrp
[23:16:12] <+i_c-Y> http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/adet.to?seg=HHO&poid=305138 is pretty expensive but they exist.
[23:16:50] < _Dig|ghst> saw that one. Not interested in droppign cappacity anytime soon either, runing 80 GB atm
[23:16:53] < _Dig|ghst> thanks though
[23:17:03] <+Nikky> I like Seagate
[23:17:13] < _Dig|ghst> who'd you cheat with
[23:17:21] <+Nikky> mokomull
[23:17:29] <+Nikky> It was a friendly smooch!
[23:18:05] < _Dig|ghst> 'friendly' and 'smooch' don't go togethter
[23:20:13]  * patz2009 gives _Dig|ghst a friendly smooch
[23:22:50] <@Andy_J> patz2009: ?
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[23:23:15] <+patz2009> Andy_J: ?
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[23:32:00]  * chronomex waves to #tcpa
[23:32:30] <@Andy_J> hai
[23:32:46] <+chronomex> hai andy
[23:33:09]  * _Dig|ghst tazes patz2009 in the face
[23:33:20] <+patz2009> dont'
[23:33:27] <+patz2009> taze me, bro!
[23:33:35]  * _Dig|ghst tazes patz2009 in the face
[23:33:39] <+patz2009> =[
[23:33:55] < _Dig|ghst> that guy was a total dumba$$
[23:37:00] <+i_c-Y> patz2009: next time respond with a silly bitch / juggernaut or something comment. 
[23:37:14] <+patz2009> Noted.
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[23:39:07] < _Dig|ghst> i_c-Y: http://www.futurepowerpc.com/scripts/product.asp?PRDCODE=ST910021A-RK&REFID=FR
[23:39:19] < _Dig|ghst> most inexpensive seagate not on backorder
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[23:40:03] <+i_c-Y> you have other brands other than seagate you know
[23:40:09] <+chronomex> np: Kojack - Keep Me On Fire
[23:40:12] <+i_c-Y> there are WD's, there are maxtors, there are toshibas
[23:40:18] < _Dig|ghst> for hitachi this is what I have
[23:40:18] < _Dig|ghst> http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?SCriteria=CA40630&CartID=done&nextloc=
[23:40:43] < _Dig|ghst> for 100 GB 7200 RPM drives I've only seen seagate and hitachi in the past 6 months
[23:40:58] < _Dig|ghst> my searches were brand independant
[23:41:35] < _Dig|ghst> tempted to go with the hitachi for price and the claim of 24x7 since my internal drive never spins down
[23:42:48] <+DSP_Lord> hai Dig
[23:42:56] < _Dig|ghst> sup
[23:42:59] <+DSP_Lord> not much
[23:43:07] < _Dig|ghst> temperature here
[23:43:11] <+i_c-Y> _Dig|ghst: id rather pay the bit extra and get the full warranty
[23:43:22] <+i_c-Y> :)
[23:43:35] < _Dig|ghst> yeah
[23:44:24] <+i_c-Y> you get a lot more capacity for the buck though if you go 5400rpm
[23:44:24] < _Dig|ghst> I hate creating accounts for one purchase
[23:44:34] <+i_c-Y> ie compusa.com has 100 dollars, 160gb wd scorpio
[23:45:06] < _Dig|ghst> I have over a TB in external storage. Just need a bump in the speed and capacity in the internal drive
[23:45:16] <+i_c-Y> ah.
[23:45:34] <+i_c-Y> rpm's arent everything though.
[23:45:56] < _Dig|ghst> well thats my consideration
[23:46:13] < _Dig|ghst> 5400 to 7200 RPM but 16 MB cache to 8 MB cache
[23:46:40] < _Dig|ghst> I'm running a toshiba right now
[23:47:02] <+i_c-Y> there are drives with the same seek and what not running at 5400rpm
[23:47:11] <+i_c-Y> like the 5K160 travelstar
[23:47:35] < _Dig|ghst> how about max and min throughputs of the mechanism?
[23:47:53] < _Dig|ghst> thats my primary concern
[23:48:11] <+Nikky> .1MB/s - 4000MB/s
[23:48:16] <+i_c-Y> dunno, look at their datasheets. just dont cut out 5400 rpm drives cause they can have the same or better performance.
[23:48:34] <+i_c-Y> and they might do it at a better price and power consumption
[23:48:44] < _Dig|ghst> datasheets are worse than synthetic benches because they only list interface speeds
[23:49:04] <+i_c-Y> some of them have throughput information.
[23:49:14] < _Dig|ghst> I've rarely seen them
[23:49:16] <+i_c-Y> plus, its not like the internet is void of that information i suppose.
[23:50:57] < _Dig|ghst> if you want to find teh crevice where these two drives are compared directly to each other, please be my guest. It's usually too hard to find on stuff this antiquated and rare. Newegg used to have these two drives and I searched for benches, but came up with nothing
[23:51:43] <+i_c-Y> i dont care enough to do that :)
[23:52:20] < _Dig|ghst> because its findign a needle in a haystack. I've tried several time. Each have their benefits, but both are about to be harder to find
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[23:55:35] <+TD-Linux> I have the 100 gb 7200rpm hitachi
[23:55:47] < _Dig|ghst> sata or pata?
[23:56:10] <+Nikky> Pilot Precise v5, Purple ink. Great pens, or greatest pens?
[23:56:15] <+TD-Linux> dunno :P
[23:56:21] <+TD-Linux> came with my thinkpad
[23:56:28] < _Dig|ghst> how old
[23:56:33] <+TD-Linux> 6 months
[23:56:35] <+Nikky> I have a 60GB 5400 IDE drive that's standard desktop size. :)
[23:56:49] <+TD-Linux> I have a 40GB one
[23:56:51] <+TD-Linux> and a 20GB one
[23:56:59] <+TD-Linux> and a 720MB one
[23:57:02] <+TD-Linux> and a 420MB one
[23:57:31] <+chronomex> I have a couple 40M SCSI ones :D
[23:58:03] <+Nikky> I have a 20GB chronomex.
[23:58:08] <+Nikky> He's pocket sized.
[23:58:11]  * Tari_ hisses
[23:58:20] <+Tari_> it's snowing
[23:58:49] < _Dig|ghst> who here has the most storage? As in hooked up and functional storage
[23:59:01] <+patz2009> Netham would say that he does.
[23:59:41] <@Grue> !qsay 1189
[23:59:43] <@efneTI86> 1189:  < Netham45> I have a 300, a 160, 4x250, and a 40. | < seidior> Netham45: 6 in my desktop, 2 in my laptop, 2 in my server, and two on my shelf. you really want to play the one-up game? |  < Netham45> seidior, sure. | < Netham45> I have 30TB downstairs. [Added Nikky at 2008/01/23 19:56]
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