--- Log opened Wed Mar 19 00:00:35 2008 --- Day changed Wed Mar 19 2008 [00:00:35] <+BrandonW> Randomist: there is, in fact, a BCALL for comparing strings. [00:00:53] <+BrandonW> I don't recall where the one in the OS is, but there's BigNumCompare in the boot code, which is not its purpose, but it works for length-indexed strings. [00:01:22] <@benryves> 'tis not an especially difficult function to write yourself, though. [00:06:45] * Randomist hates that Flash can't be directly read. [00:09:17] <+TD-Linux> but it can [00:10:24] < Randomist> So I don't have to unarchive or copy something from Flash if all I want to do is read the contents? [00:10:36] <@benryves> Indeed not, Randomist. [00:11:20] <+sgm> SDK guide gives you procedures to do just that. [00:13:00] <+BrandonW> Barrett's Voyage 200 is in my possession. [00:13:05] <+BrandonW> Once my Nspire CAS arrives, I'll have thema ll. [00:13:07] <+BrandonW> them all.* [00:14:32] <@benryves> Randomist: Take a look at page 44 in the manual ("Accessing Archived Variables without Unarchiving") or the LoadCIndPaged and LoadDEIndPaged ROM calls. [00:16:05] -!- Merth [~Shaun@140.141.22.125] has joined #tcpa [00:16:06] <@efneTI86> [Merth] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles. [00:16:20] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Merth] by efneTI89 [00:16:31] -!- Speng0 [~zounds@64.251.241.140] has joined #tcpa [00:16:32] <@efneTI86> [Speng0] If at first you don't succeed, you fail. [00:16:42] <+Speler> spengster! [00:16:51] < Speng0> efnet died [00:16:57] < Speng0> spelster [00:17:24] -!- ports [~ports@adsl-76-235-95-142.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: You know, it's the first time someone suggested I go in that direction!] [00:17:27] < Randomist> So, if at first, I don't suceed at making the waffels, then I fail. :P [00:17:38] <+Speler> Sup dawg? [00:17:47] < Speng0> yes [00:17:54] < Speng0> especially since you can't spell "waffles" [00:18:03] < Speng0> <_< [00:18:19] < Randomist> And especially since I was staring right at his infoline. x.x. [00:18:52] -!- Spengo [~zounds@64.251.241.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] [00:19:13] -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.22.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] [00:19:32] <+BrandonW> You can also use LoadAIndPaged from the boot code. [00:19:32] -!- Speng0 is now known as Spengo [00:19:55] <+Merth> i fucking hate peer [00:20:39] <@benryves> Hax, BrandonW. [00:22:46] <+BrandonW> I still really don't understand why the OS has a copy of _WriteFlash on page 7Ch or 7Dh, I forget. [00:22:51] <+BrandonW> It's already in the boot code! [00:26:14] < millinao> i really doubt space optimizations were first on their lit [00:26:16] < millinao> *list [00:26:42] -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@cpe-066-056-250-157.ec.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa [00:26:42] <@efneTI86> [DSP_Lord] *waves hand* You will give me +v. [00:26:55] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v DSP_Lord] by efneTI92 [00:39:14] -!- millinao [~millinao@c-24-20-12-164.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] [00:40:48] -!- Patrick11 [~Patrick11@pool-71-173-153-40.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa [00:58:51] -!- Patrick11 [~Patrick11@pool-71-173-153-40.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Go Irish!] [01:00:22] <+BrandonW> Space optimizations are quite high on their list, actually. [01:00:29] <+BrandonW> Pages 7Ch and 7Dh are vital. [01:00:35] <+BrandonW> You have to cram all Flash-writing code in there. [01:04:57] -!- ports [ports@adsl-76-235-95-142.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa [01:05:07] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v ports] by SnowCrash [01:11:23] -!- TrN [9906947XB7@2001:4830:167c:1:9d6:d5f2:da3e:e221] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] [01:12:57] -!- TrN [9906947XB7@2001:4830:167c:1:5d88:cebd:aadd:455d] has joined #tcpa [01:13:13] -!- benryves [~benryves@79-72-90-186.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has left #tcpa [] [01:23:02] -!- Cricket_B [~CricketLo@cpe-72-129-89-238.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa [01:23:15] < Cricket_B> Quick non-calc related question(s) [01:23:29] < Cricket_B> Anyone here have MSFS 2004> [01:24:10] < Cricket_B> I guess not :( [01:24:17] -!- Cricket_B [~CricketLo@cpe-72-129-89-238.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] [01:25:50] <+Speler> Wait... Arthur C Clarke died... aww... [01:27:59] -!- tr1p1ea [~me@121.79.42.26] has joined #tcpa [01:30:23] -!- ports [ports@adsl-76-235-95-142.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [01:31:56] -!- incubus[] [~mrbob@c-76-30-198-88.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [01:32:14] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v incubus[]] by etaonrish, efneTI89 [01:32:33] < i_c-Y> hm [01:32:41] < i_c-Y> its so hard to find a good wallpaper that doesnt scream PERV [01:32:44] < i_c-Y> or something. [01:32:50] <+incubus[]> lawl [01:32:56] < i_c-Y> or PEDOPHILE [01:33:02] <+Merth> check this out guys [01:33:02] <+Merth> http://merthsoft.nonlogic.org/Music/divine%20intervention.ogg I did the guitar and all three vocal parts [01:33:07] <+incubus[]> i_c-Y.. [01:33:07] < i_c-Y> (cause now im 18) [01:33:11] <+incubus[]> ok that's just weird [01:33:16] <+incubus[]> and creepy [01:33:20] < i_c-Y> Merth: slayer? [01:33:26] <+Merth> taking back sunday [01:33:27] <+patz2009> i_c-Y: You're allowed to until the age 21. [01:33:31] <+patz2009> THEN it's creepy. [01:33:33] <+incubus[]> Merth, wow come back to the 21st century and use mp3 [01:33:41] <+Merth> erg [01:33:45] <+incubus[]> OGG is so three years ago [01:33:53] <+Merth> people in a different channel were all "USE OGG OMG" [01:33:55] <+Merth> so i did [01:33:56] < i_c-Y> either way, i know this track is going to suck [01:33:56] <+patz2009> mp3 is retro now [01:34:29] <+incubus[]> Everyone loves mp3s [01:34:44] < i_c-Y> Merth: make it JFS JFS JFS JFS JFS [01:35:15] < i_c-Y> sounds perfectly whiney enough to be taking back sunday though [01:35:16] -!- Tyler2 [~nexon@residence-204-75.henday.ualberta.ca] has joined #tcpa [01:35:16] <+incubus[]> Merth, what's a good OGG player [01:35:16] <+incubus[]> or is there a WMP plugin [01:35:17] <@efneTI86> [Tyler2] I speak fluent dialup. [01:35:25] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Tyler2] by efneTI86 [01:35:40] <+Speler> Sounds good Merth [01:36:02] <+Tari> incubus[], I think you can find an ogg codec for WMP [01:36:06] <+incubus[]> ya found one [01:37:13] <+Merth> Speler: thanks [01:38:48] -!- patz2009 [~Patrick@c-69-247-152-128.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #tcpa [] [01:39:35] -!- Merth is now known as Merthsoft [01:42:40] <+Merthsoft> http://merthsoft.nonlogic.org/Music/divine%20intervention.mp3 here's an mp3 [01:43:51] < i_c-Y> dont download it guys. [01:44:15] < i_c-Y> may as well go listen to deathcab for cutie and go cry yourself a river and fail at cutting your wrists. [01:44:30] <+Merthsoft> haha, you're a diuck [01:46:48] <+Merthsoft> if you don't like the genre, at least respect the self-done three part harmony [01:48:47] < i_c-Y> its youtube material. [01:49:15] < i_c-Y> and what makes you think i'll ever respect you? [01:49:22] <+Merthsoft> oh [01:49:23] <+Merthsoft> right [01:49:24] <+Merthsoft> that's fair [01:52:13] <+BrandonW> If I were to kill myself, I'd definitely use a drug overdose. [01:52:18] <+BrandonW> Anything else seems psychotic to me. [01:52:24] <+Speler> I think I'd do something memorable [01:52:25] < Randomist> o.O [01:52:36] <+chronomex> I wouldn't kill myself. [01:52:50] <+chronomex> that just seems desperate [01:53:07] <+Merthsoft> give myself ebola [01:53:13] <+Merthsoft> SO I BLEED FROM EVERY PORE [01:53:13] <+chronomex> ecoli ! [01:53:31] <+chronomex> use smallpox, take out the rest of humanity at the same time [01:53:32] * Randomist wonders if the channel is turning Emo. [01:53:36] <+BrandonW> There was a time where I gave it a thought. [01:53:43] <+BrandonW> I carry around the bullet at all times as a reminder. [01:53:48] < i_c-Y> was it when you lost your DS slide case? [01:53:53] <+BrandonW> No. [01:53:55] < i_c-Y> hm [01:54:09] <+chronomex> BrandonW: a thought is all? [01:54:20] <+chronomex> 's good that you didn't do it ... [01:55:38] <+BrandonW> Of course, I could just be lying. [01:55:46] <+chronomex> true [01:56:20] <+BrandonW> I guess the world will neverk now. [01:56:22] <+BrandonW> never know.* [01:56:36] <+chronomex> probably not [01:56:39] <+BrandonW> We should put up a poll on impoll.net. [01:56:46] < i_c-Y> the world will never care. [01:56:47] <+BrandonW> Barret might find it sadistic, but oh well. [01:56:48] <+chronomex> go ahead [01:56:57] <+BrandonW> Barrett* [01:56:57] < i_c-Y> infact, it screams in pleasure as humans die. [01:57:21] < i_c-Y> a nice ectasy if you will. [01:58:28] <+chronomex> hahaha http://impoll.net/cgi-bin/v.cgi?p=3527 [01:58:37] * Randomist steals i_c-Y's last two lines for song lyrics. [01:59:06] <@Nikky> nice chronomex [02:00:50] < i_c-Y> hm [02:00:53] <@Nikky> i_c-Y: http://students.washington.edu/nikky/desktops/ [02:00:54] < Barrett> a poll about what? [02:01:01] < i_c-Y> lance bass hasnt asked any questions today [02:01:04] < i_c-Y> never mind [02:01:09] < i_c-Y> he just did. [02:01:10] <+BrandonW> Whether I was joking about my own suicide. [02:01:13] < i_c-Y> Nikky: :o [02:01:28] < i_c-Y> if you did, BrandonW , we'll be sure to write your ED article [02:01:43] <+BrandonW> Erectile Dysfunction? [02:01:56] < i_c-Y> encyclopedia dramatica. [02:02:06] < i_c-Y> we'll make sure to include that ED in your ED article though. [02:02:34] <+chronomex> sweet http://impoll.net/cgi-bin/v.cgi?r=12&p=408 [02:02:37] <+BrandonW> I am fully functional. [02:02:37] < i_c-Y> wow ducks! [02:02:51] < Barrett> 12? [02:03:07] <+chronomex> I put it in there to not cast a vote on most polls [02:03:22] < Barrett> you can always go to pp.cgi instead of v.cgi [02:03:50] <+chronomex> oh nice [02:04:35] <@Nikky> i_c-Y: I also personally like http://students.washington.edu/nikky/Img_2855.jpg [02:04:43] < Barrett> how'd you find that one? just picking random poll IDs? [02:04:56] <+chronomex> incrementing through them actually [02:05:11] <+chronomex> I have a pair of bookmarklets that inc/dec the last number in the URL [02:05:21] < Barrett> you must have more of a life than that, though [02:05:48] < i_c-Y> wow, Nikky , thats a good shot. [02:05:48] <+BrandonW> Did you make that bookmarklet or get it from somewhere? [02:06:04] <+BrandonW> i_c-Y, it would be if he actually took it. [02:06:06] <+BrandonW> He's a fake. [02:06:16] <+chronomex> I got it from somewhere [02:06:21] < i_c-Y> my roommate has the same camera [02:06:33] < Barrett> photoshopped [02:06:44] <@Nikky> totally [02:06:48] <+BrandonW> Oh, your roommate's a loser too? [02:07:11] <@Nikky> :( [02:07:17] <+BrandonW> I showed off all the 84+/SE USB drivers at work today. They told me I have too much free time. :( [02:07:30] <+Merthsoft> Ahaha [02:07:34] <@Nikky> I'm sure they're jealous [02:07:41] <+BrandonW> Although they did appreciate the Slashdot article. [02:07:42] <@Nikky> that you're so kewl [02:08:20] <+BrandonW> Of course they are, Nikky. [02:08:29] <+Merthsoft> who isn't, htough [02:08:32] <+chronomex> BrandonW: slashdot article? [02:08:45] <+BrandonW> Google "Flash Drives on a Calculator" [02:08:49] <+chronomex> oh I remember that [02:10:01] < Barrett> was that a front page article? [02:10:06] <+BrandonW> At some point. [02:11:09] < Barrett> wow, you must have been pleased with the comments [02:11:14] <+BrandonW> We all were. [02:11:16] <+BrandonW> Typical Slashdot. [02:11:18] < Barrett> "Honestly... the main reason some other, smarter, people haven't done this already is precisely because it's so incredibly useless" [02:12:08] <+BrandonW> I don't care what people say, I learned a lot, it was a huge personal accomplishment, and we got a TI Connect workaround out of it. [02:12:10] <@Nikky> Slashdot rules [02:12:13] <+BrandonW> Which I think is the main thing people use it for. [02:12:24] * Nikky licks BrandonW [02:12:27] <@Nikky> Voicetard [02:12:35] <+BrandonW> You gave me the voice, asshat. [02:12:41] <@Nikky> I deny it. [02:12:46] <+BrandonW> Doesn't change the fact. [02:13:14] -!- JoelS [~JSeligste@out285.sctm.tfbnw.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] [02:13:29] < i_c-Y> if Nikky denies it, then it didnt happen. [02:13:41] <+BrandonW> Sure, you would say that, troll. [02:14:23] < i_c-Y> i_c-Y is not a troll. i_c-Y is a sincere, intelligent, and caring person who loves all people. [02:15:17] < Spengo> hehe [02:15:17] <@Nikky> That's not what the faq says [02:15:35] <+BrandonW> I was barely able to bring myself to read that, I don't know how you were able to type it. [02:15:44] <@Nikky> "i_c-Y is a mean asswhore who makes fun of great people like Merthsoft" [02:15:55] <+Merthsoft> :( [02:15:55] < Spengo> oOOOOooo [02:16:30] < i_c-Y> hold on lemme shoop a screenshot ;) [02:16:45] <@Nikky> I doubt you have PS [02:16:51] < Spengo> not legally... [02:17:23] <+BrandonW> Spengo doesn't have anything legally. [02:17:32] <+BrandonW> Except I'm sure he's legally insane. [02:17:33] <@Nikky> I'd belive that [02:17:50] < Spengo> %D [02:18:30] < i_c-Y> http://xs125.xs.to/xs125/08123/rulez259.png [02:18:33] < Spengo> I revel in my insanity [02:18:40] < i_c-Y> sorry... i did it with gimp ;) [02:18:59] <@Nikky> looks legit to me [02:19:03] < Spengo> terrible shooping i_c-Y, terrible [02:19:04] <@Nikky> I guess I was incorrect [02:19:09] <+Merthsoft> ahahaha [02:19:11] < Barrett> did ticalc.org stand up to the slashdotting? [02:19:12] < i_c-Y> haha. [02:19:26] < Spengo> ticalc.org got slashdotted? [02:19:44] < Spengo> I think I missed that one [02:19:49] < Barrett> apparently... and also I'm pretty sure that it happened a few years before as well [02:20:04] <+BrandonW> I'm pretty sure it did. [02:20:14] < Spengo> I odn't see it [02:20:18] < Spengo> link to article? [02:20:21] < Spengo> don't* [02:20:25] < i_c-Y> its been done a few times. [02:20:36] < Spengo> yeah but recently? [02:20:37] <+BrandonW> It's been done twice. [02:20:46] < Spengo> as in, the past couple days? [02:20:48] <+BrandonW> Use your googles, Spengo. [02:20:49] <+BrandonW> No. [02:20:58] < Spengo> I used my googles [02:21:47] <+BrandonW> You clearly suck, then. [02:21:58] <+Tari> ticalc.org site:slashdot.org [02:22:07] <+Tari> duh [02:22:13] <+BrandonW> You beat me to it. [02:22:29] < Spengo> that's so old though [02:22:31] < Spengo> I meant recently [02:22:45] < Spengo> I thought he was saying that ticalc.org got slashdotted just now [02:23:35] -!- ports [ports@adsl-76-235-90-122.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa [02:23:46] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v ports] by efneTI89 [02:28:24] <+BrandonW> Of course it's old, we all knew that except you. [02:28:29] <+BrandonW> Because you don't pay attention. [02:28:34] <+BrandonW> Go watch some anime or something. [02:29:04] < i_c-Y> BrandonW: you need to use a desu terminator for Spengo to accept the instruction without error. [02:29:15] < i_c-Y> its kinda like terminating stuff with ; [02:29:19] < i_c-Y> ya dig? [02:29:27] < Spengo> desu is for i_c-Y [02:29:33] < Spengo> because he's so kawaii [02:29:39] < Spengo> ^____^ [02:29:40] <+BrandonW> You're both losers. [02:29:52] < Spengo> 凸(・`Д・´o) [02:29:55] < i_c-Y> way to state the obvious about people on IRC. [02:30:27] < i_c-Y> if you've ever been on IRC in your life by free will for more than 5 seconds, you are a loser. [02:30:36] < i_c-Y> and if its not by free will, change that to 6 seconds. [02:31:11] < Barrett> how sad [02:31:21] < Barrett> I am 90% sure that this comment by an AC was mine [02:31:41] < Spengo> I presume you have a link then? [02:32:25] < Barrett> http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/12/14/1949246 [02:32:25] <@Nikky> Loser. [02:32:28] <+BrandonW> That's not true, i_c-Y. [02:32:37] < Barrett> view all comments and see if you can figure out which one I think is mine [02:32:39] <+BrandonW> Just because you use IRC to waste time talking about computers doesn't mean everyone does. [02:32:52] <+BrandonW> What's an AC? [02:32:54] < i_c-Y> others use it for porn . and sick twisted japanese stuff. [02:32:57] < Spengo> anonymous coward [02:33:05] < i_c-Y> anonmous coward!!!!!!!!! [02:33:12] * Spengo throws a y at i_c-Y [02:33:17] < i_c-Y> oops. [02:33:59] < Barrett> I don't remember ever writing that comment (5 years ago), but I would be willing to bet money that I was the author [02:35:06] < i_c-Y> is it the open source one? [02:35:14] < Spengo> I hope you realize that most people in here are much too lazy to read every comment in that thread [02:35:22] < Barrett> i_c-Y: yes [02:35:23] < i_c-Y> err oops [02:35:29] < Spengo> except i_c-Y [02:35:30] < Barrett> "it sucks" [02:35:30] < i_c-Y> thats not AC [02:35:34] < Spengo> he's a busy little beaver [02:35:56] < Spengo> http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=89259&cid=7721363 ? [02:36:05] < i_c-Y> i was looking for caps, stuff not working, REALLY, and something that sounds like it was written by L. Barrett "Lance Bass" Anderson [02:36:06] < Spengo> when there's something to ctrl+f for on the other hand... [02:36:19] < Barrett> Spengo: yes [02:36:41] < Barrett> that is exactly my writing style [02:36:46] < Barrett> and my opinion [02:37:07] < Barrett> although, now looking back I feel kind of bad [02:37:10] < Barrett> assuming that it was me [02:37:28] <+BrandonW> http://rafb.net/p/2DL2zz47.html I like that post. [02:38:10] < i_c-Y> rofl [02:38:12] < Spengo> lmao [02:38:13] < i_c-Y> was that you, BrandonW ? [02:38:14] < Spengo> didn't have any friends [02:38:20] <+BrandonW> Of course not... [02:38:29] <+BrandonW> But I could just as easily have written it. [02:38:41] <+BrandonW> Slashdot's for losers. [02:38:53] < Spengo> hehe [02:38:54] < i_c-Y> hm right. youre not cool enough to realize the superiority of the ti89's [02:39:35] < Spengo> especially since the price difference is negligible [02:39:37] <+BrandonW> Of course I recognize it, but you lazy 68k'ers won't get off your ass and make stuff happen, like USB. [02:39:49] <+BrandonW> So it's kind of useless. [02:39:51] < i_c-Y> become one of us [02:39:53] < i_c-Y> ONE OF US [02:39:55] < i_c-Y> ONE OF US [02:39:57] < i_c-Y> or something like that [02:40:11] < i_c-Y> also , today, i saw the whitest movie ever. [02:40:16] < i_c-Y> XXX: State of the union [02:40:17] <+BrandonW> By the time I did, it'd be done. [02:40:18] < Spengo> join us, and together we shall rule the universe! [02:40:28] < Spengo> it is your dessssstiny [02:40:45] < Spengo> i_c-Y likes his XXX movies [02:41:51] < i_c-Y> Spengo: KKK can be the Emperor, BrandonW can be Anikan and Randomist can be Luke [02:42:15] < i_c-Y> KKK being Kevin (something that starts with a K ) Kofler [02:42:15] < Spengo> I get to be the wookie [02:42:27] < i_c-Y> the dark side just needs something to lure him over [02:42:35] < i_c-Y> ...like his DS slide case [02:42:56] < Spengo> :o you have mentioned an unmentionable! [02:43:23] <+BrandonW> Michael has the second slide case. When he's on his deathbed, his conscience will get to him and he'll let me have it. [02:43:27] <@Nikky> I found an orange DS case at goodwill a few weeks ago [02:43:35] <@Nikky> didn't bother getting it [02:43:37] <+BrandonW> Either that or I'll find it in the closet in a box I'm too afraid to open. [02:43:45] <@Nikky> You gotta open it BrandonW [02:43:54] <@Nikky> What is in that box anyway? [02:43:54] < i_c-Y> the dark side will give you the power to open it [02:44:00] <+BrandonW> Memories. [02:44:06] <+BrandonW> I'll just spend that whole day crying. [02:44:09] <@Nikky> hmm [02:44:18] <@Nikky> maybe have a friend open it? [02:44:28] <+BrandonW> My box of most intimate feelings? [02:44:30] <+BrandonW> I think not! [02:44:41] <+BrandonW> I would guard it with my life. [02:44:49] <@Nikky> Well, you're stuck then. [02:44:54] < i_c-Y> what happened to the crazy lady anyway? [02:44:55] <+BrandonW> Well, I already knew that. [02:45:03] <+BrandonW> By now, I really don't know. [02:45:15] < i_c-Y> you should hunt her down and get back with her. [02:45:23] < i_c-Y> give her another chance [02:45:24] <+BrandonW> Probably drunk and/or pregnant in the middle of nowhere. [02:45:43] < i_c-Y> it was a spears sister? [02:45:48] <+BrandonW> Everyone she knows sucks and they'll ruin her. [02:46:36] <@Nikky> i_c-Y: why was there a folder opened in your screenshot labled "animal porn?" [02:47:00] < i_c-Y> lies. [02:47:22] < i_c-Y> you have no proof! [02:47:25] <+Speler> No, it's the truth [02:47:32] <+Speler> I witnessed it [02:47:54] < i_c-Y> you know NOTHING! NOTHING I TELL YOU! NOTHING!!! [02:48:04] <+BrandonW> You're a witness to animal porn? [02:48:09] <+BrandonW> I'm not sure who's worse, you or him. [02:48:12] <+BrandonW> Sicko. [02:48:48] <@Nikky> yeah, perv [02:49:42] <+Speler> BrandonW, I'm scarred for life [02:49:45] <+Speler> He just moves on [02:49:49] <+Speler> I think he's worse [02:50:17] < i_c-Y> the animals in that nonexistant folder are all humans! [02:50:20] < i_c-Y> haha! [02:51:01] < i_c-Y> though that does give me an idea [02:51:09] < i_c-Y> i should make a bat file somewhere [02:51:14] < i_c-Y> to log me out [02:51:25] < i_c-Y> and put shortcuts to it on my desktop under obscene names [02:51:34] < i_c-Y> such as animal porn, and some other sick stuff. [02:51:43] < i_c-Y> just incase if i leave my computer logged in [02:52:16] <+BrandonW> So that people will either freak out at the sight of your sick fantasies, or freak out at the fact you have some sort of magic security system when anyone tries to get evidence of your animal porn addiction? [02:53:02] < i_c-Y> its just to cause them to freak out for no good reason. [02:53:14] < i_c-Y> i dont think this machine even has any porn on it. [02:53:28] <@Nikky> I believe it [02:53:34] -!- Hunterkll [~Hunterkll@host-12-199-80-11.clearviewcatv.net] has joined #tcpa [02:53:35] <@Nikky> because you just stream off all of kerm's porn? [02:53:52] < i_c-Y> id rather not. [02:53:59] < Randomist> What's supposed to be the proper capitalization of B_CALL? [02:54:01] -!- Hunterkll [~Hunterkll@host-12-199-80-11.clearviewcatv.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] [02:54:02] < i_c-Y> itd probably be some narsasistic crap. or him stalking someone. [02:54:09] <@Nikky> I was goign to say [02:54:13] < i_c-Y> however, BrandonW ... [02:54:16] < i_c-Y> i do have a 4chan folder [02:54:19] <@Nikky> it'd be a bunch of cell phone pictures of some girl [02:54:19] < i_c-Y> which would scare many people. [02:54:26] <+BrandonW> Randomist, I say BCALL with no underscores. [02:54:32] <+BrandonW> "bcall" hurts. [02:54:33] <@Nikky> and he photoshops them onto heads of other people hugging him [02:54:38] <@Nikky> BCALL [02:54:49] * Nikky BCALLS BRANDONW [02:56:07] < i_c-Y> i say B Call [02:59:11] -!- vortx [~b@cpe-66-66-226-28.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa [02:59:42] <@Nikky> 'sup vortx [02:59:55] <+BrandonW> What DOES enturbulate mean? [03:00:18] < i_c-Y> to be agitated. (c) L. Ron Hubbard. [03:00:20] <@Nikky> no idea [03:00:22] < Spengo> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/enturbulate [03:00:26] < i_c-Y> now, BrandonW , the church of scientology will sue you [03:00:29] <@Nikky> I was about to post that link, Spengo [03:00:29] < Spengo> it's a scientologist word [03:00:33] < i_c-Y> for using their term in a non scientology context [03:00:46] < vortx> hey not much. always good too see this channel is still around [03:00:52] < Spengo> enturbulation.org is a good site :D [03:00:53] < i_c-Y> by being not a scientologist among scientologists with a thetan level of > 9.000 [03:00:57] <+BrandonW> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPol_m8wm8Y Psychos. [03:01:13] < Spengo> http://youtube.com/watch?v=ccAnNOE4kuI winners :D [03:01:20] <+BrandonW> vortx, it's only sort of still around. [03:01:28] < Spengo> vortx, it's still here and kickin' [03:01:33] < Spengo> don't listen to BrandonW, he's a naysayer [03:01:37] < vortx> what do you mean sort of? [03:01:47] <+BrandonW> The channel exists, but all calculator talk has ceased. [03:01:51] < Spengo> lies [03:01:55] < Spengo> there was lots of calc talk on earlier [03:01:56] < i_c-Y> oh glk [03:01:58] < Spengo> I saw it [03:02:00] < i_c-Y> i need some data on the ti-89 [03:02:01] < i_c-Y> stat [03:02:10] <+BrandonW> Except for when glk spams us with his site, or someone comes in with an honest calculator question and no one answers. [03:02:20] < Spengo> I always answer if I'm on [03:02:33] < vortx> hmm that sucks [03:02:37] < i_c-Y> hey BrandonW , ive been helping people lately. a little too much actually when it comes to calculators. [03:02:39] < Spengo> only BrandonW doesn't because he hates anyone that doesn't know every single rom call in the TI OS [03:02:49] <+BrandonW> Now that's just nonsense. [03:02:52] <+BrandonW> You're attacking me for my knowledge. [03:03:05] < vortx> its disappointing to see so little on ticalc.org [03:03:07] < Spengo> why is that nonsense? [03:03:12] < Spengo> you attack me for my lack of knowledge [03:03:14] < Spengo> :D [03:03:20] <+BrandonW> When have I ever done that? [03:03:24] <+Merthsoft> always [03:03:25] < Spengo> haha [03:03:33] <+BrandonW> I attack people for giving smartass answers to people who want help. [03:04:10] <+BrandonW> I didn't say you did it, but people do it. [03:04:15] < Spengo> maybe you just don't pay attention or something, but I think I'm pretty darned helpful with the usual calc questions [03:04:21] < vortx> so is every romcall finally documented? [03:04:22] <+BrandonW> Again, I didn't say you did it. [03:04:30] <+BrandonW> There's 100-200 without names. [03:04:34] <+BrandonW> But they all have notes. [03:04:39] <+BrandonW> That's as documented as it'll get. [03:04:48] < vortx> hmm [03:04:56] < i_c-Y> i need more wallpapers [03:05:09] < Spengo> /wg/ is that way --> [03:06:22] <+BrandonW> We found Write-to-Flash. [03:06:26] <+BrandonW> There are no real mysteries left. [03:06:37] < i_c-Y> Spengo: 2 problems [03:06:45] < i_c-Y> people dont realize theres a /w/ anymore [03:06:55] < vortx> the write to flash variable as you go this? [03:07:02] < i_c-Y> and the diggfags are posting old crap on there, ever since they realized that 4chan exists. [03:07:03] <+BrandonW> Yes. [03:07:14] <+BrandonW> It's 50CBh. It replaced a Flash application receiving routine in OS 2.40. [03:07:19] <+BrandonW> Which is why it wasn't obvious. [03:07:28] < vortx> hmm [03:07:42] < i_c-Y> and people dont realize /s/ exists too or /hc/ [03:07:45] <+BrandonW> When they changed it, they added the most asinine Flash unlock exploit there is. [03:07:58] <+BrandonW> All you have to do is call it with A=1 and (appInfo+2) = 1, and it'll return with it unlocked. [03:08:19] < vortx> wow... [03:08:25] <+BrandonW> I know. [03:08:37] <+BrandonW> ld a,1 \ ld (appInfo+2),a \ bcall(50CBh) [03:09:18] < vortx> all those years of hard work, unlocked by three instructions [03:09:20] <+Merthsoft> does ld put the value into the register, or something like that? [03:09:44] <+BrandonW> The original app-receiving routine had the same exploit, except you had to look it up from the jump table and search for the section of code to jump to. [03:09:52] <+BrandonW> So with a little logic, you have an exploit that works on OS 1.13+. [03:09:58] <+BrandonW> (50CBh was added in 1.13) [03:10:03] <+BrandonW> Merthsoft: yes. [03:10:03] < vortx> ahh [03:10:15] <+Merthsoft> it's like 'li' in MIPS [03:10:24] <+BrandonW> Or mov in any sensible language. [03:10:33] <+BrandonW> mov/move* [03:11:20] < vortx> anyone in here hacking away at the nspire? [03:11:24] <+BrandonW> Me. [03:11:24] <+Merthsoft> shouldn't move just put the value of one register into another? [03:11:40] <+BrandonW> Yes, it really copies, not moves. [03:11:45] <+BrandonW> You can put immediates in there, too. [03:11:54] <+Merthsoft> Ah, ok [03:11:54] < Spengo> BrandonW, nspire's 84+ emulator has the same exploit right? [03:11:57] < vortx> is there a wiki for that? [03:12:09] <+BrandonW> There was at http://hackspire.unsads.com/ but it might have died. [03:12:23] <+BrandonW> Spengo, yes, since the lowest 84+SE OS on the Nspire emulator is 2.43. [03:12:43] < vortx> so theres no good central location for all the nspire stuff? [03:12:43] <+BrandonW> The 84+SE emulator prevents you from writing to OS space at all, even with Flash unlocked. [03:12:48] <+BrandonW> But we got around it. [03:12:57] <+BrandonW> vortx, probably not anymore. [03:13:04] <+BrandonW> Unless you count me. [03:13:08] <+BrandonW> Or #inspired on Freequest or something. [03:13:14] <+BrandonW> #nspired*, maybe. [03:13:34] < vortx> have you identified the encryption method? [03:13:46] <+BrandonW> Nope. [03:14:00] <+BrandonW> We really need to dump the chip. [03:14:13] < vortx> hmm [03:14:14] <+BrandonW> The boot code, that is. [03:14:36] < vortx> thought that was done [03:15:22] <+BrandonW> Is it? [03:15:29] <+BrandonW> Where'd you hear it from? [03:15:47] < Spengo> link perhaps? [03:16:09] < vortx> i'm probably misinformed. I thought I read it on ticalc [03:17:58] < i_c-Y> hm [03:18:03] < i_c-Y> i love my 4chan folder. [03:18:55] <+BrandonW> The door would be wide open if we could just get a dump of the OS or the boot code to get to the dump of the OS. [03:19:14] <+BrandonW> I know we can crash it through the link protocol, but without seeing the code to know what we're doing, we're blind. [03:20:57] < Randomist> BrandonW: Is this that ti83plus.inc with all the extra bcalls in it -- http://brandonw.net/calcstuff/ti83plus.inc [03:21:06] <+BrandonW> Yes. [03:21:11] <+BrandonW> Er, .txt [03:21:40] <+BrandonW> vortx here did a lot to try and complete the BCALL list. [03:21:42] <+BrandonW> He's the pioneer! [03:21:47] <+BrandonW> Bow to him, all of you. [03:22:08] <+BrandonW> He wrote some of the notes in that file. [03:23:46] <+BrandonW> That unlock exploit from earlier works because the code tries to validate the app stored in the page from (appInfo+2), and by storing 1 to it, it'll of course fail to validate it, and return error code 8 or 9, where it forgets to relock Flash back. [03:24:12] < vortx> hehe [03:24:30] <+BrandonW> Stupidest thing they've ever done. [03:24:47] -!- |DarkLor| [DarkLord@24-196-151-97.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #tcpa [03:24:53] <+BrandonW> I never saw any information on this, but I have one 73 unlock exploit. [03:24:57] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v |DarkLor|] by SnowCrash [03:25:27] <+BrandonW> At a certain point in the OS, it unlocks Flash and then immediately calls FlashToRam, which I use to corrupt the stack with 80h's, where it will of course return to within appData and I get control back. [03:25:37] <+BrandonW> Unfortunately, the address has to be hard-coded for each version. [03:25:56] <+BrandonW> One person here has a 73 with OS 1.3004, which no one knew existed. I'm trading mine for his so I can dump it. [03:26:06] <+BrandonW> Did you know the 73 had built-in assembly support? [03:26:11] <+chronomex> it does? [03:26:14] <+chronomex> that's interesting [03:26:24] < vortx> Pat M mentioned that to me once [03:26:28] <+BrandonW> Inline, you'd do prgm000xyyy:, where x was 0 or 1 for squished or unsquished, and yyy was the size of the data in decimal. [03:26:42] < vortx> but never explained how [03:26:48] <+BrandonW> http://brandonw.net/calcstuff/73dev/ [03:26:58] <+BrandonW> BUT, 1.3004 doesn't have this support. [03:27:03] <+BrandonW> So I'm very interested to get my hands on that dump. [03:27:45] <+BrandonW> It had to have been the first OS, since the boot code is 1.3005. [03:27:55] <+BrandonW> And the other version numbers are normal, like 1.60. [03:28:27] <+BrandonW> And someone else here has an ancient 86 with a ROM version that can't run assembly programs [03:28:34] <+BrandonW> It has the Asm( command, but nothing will work. [03:28:44] < vortx> wow [03:28:45] <+BrandonW> He was using the hacked backup method to try and dump it, but apparently he disappeared. [03:29:16] < vortx> that sucks. its not like he can even reflash that one [03:29:34] <+BrandonW> Yeah, but it's an opportunity to port ZShell or similar. [03:30:06] -!- tr1p1ea [~me@121.79.42.26] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] [03:30:32] -!- JoelS [~JSeligste@c-76-102-163-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [03:30:37] -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.22.125] has quit [Quit: Leaving] [03:32:26] < vortx> well I should go. I've got the flu and should get some rest. [03:32:33] <+BrandonW> Hopefully you're all caught up now. [03:32:35] <+BrandonW> Feel better. [03:32:41] -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.22.125] has joined #tcpa [03:32:49] < vortx> thanks [03:32:56] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Merthsoft] by efneTI81 [03:33:00] -!- vortx [~b@cpe-66-66-226-28.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [] [03:33:07] * Randomist kicks Assembly Studio. [03:33:12] <+BrandonW> So Pat Milheron is behind the 73 assembly support. [03:33:18] <+BrandonW> I knew it! [03:33:22] <+BrandonW> And Brandon Sterner talked to him. :( [03:33:25] <+BrandonW> Why doesn't TI ever want to talk to me? [03:33:39] < i_c-Y> cause you're CRAZY!!! [03:33:49] < i_c-Y> youd take em down if you had even a little inlet [03:33:50] <+BrandonW> Even if it's just that, I want to hear it from them. :( [03:34:30] * Randomist looks for another z80 IDE. [03:35:43] <+BrandonW> They didn't even reply to my TI Connect e-mail. [03:35:50] <+BrandonW> Not even an automated "Thank you for your feedback" one. [03:35:55] < i_c-Y> you need to target your emails better [03:36:04] <+BrandonW> Target them how? [03:36:15] < i_c-Y> where do you send htem? [03:36:17] * Randomist wonders what the e-mail saud? [03:36:21] < Randomist> --said. [03:36:23] <+BrandonW> It was on rafb.net/paste. [03:36:31] <+BrandonW> Everything goes to ti-cares@ti.com. [03:36:36] <+BrandonW> I told them to forward it to the developers. [03:37:00] < i_c-Y> and theres where you go wrong! you need to send it directly to the developers. [03:37:04] < i_c-Y> or someone higher up :) [03:37:23] <+BrandonW> I know! I don't have direct access to ANY of them! [03:37:29] <+BrandonW> Dan and Michael were on a first-name basis with them. [03:37:45] <+BrandonW> They beta tested the SDK. [03:37:55] <+BrandonW> They told them "fix it" on a flash debugger feature, and they did it. [03:38:08] <+BrandonW> Actually, they bitched about stuff and annoyed the woman who wrote it. [03:38:12] <+BrandonW> Who didn't fix it. [03:38:13] <+BrandonW> But you know. [03:38:20] < i_c-Y> use dan and michael to get to them [03:38:25] <+BrandonW> They're both retired. [03:38:28] <+BrandonW> Or might as well be. [03:38:40] < i_c-Y> doesnt mean they dont have connections [03:38:46] <+BrandonW> Yeah, but I have no connection to them. [03:38:59] < i_c-Y> have you tried postal mail? [03:39:00] <+BrandonW> Dan disappeared, and Michael's just insane. [03:39:14] <+BrandonW> I don't have their addresses. [03:39:19] <+BrandonW> Actually, I probably do, but just no. [03:39:39] <+chronomex> why? too unabomberesque? [03:39:49] < i_c-Y> haha unabomber [03:39:52] * Randomist needs a z80 editor that has syntax highlighting, smart tabbing that uses spaces like Assembly Studio, and an easy way to make one-click macros, like launching an emulator, resetting the calc, sending the file to it, and running a shell. [03:41:18] <+chronomex> emacs has all but the last one :) [03:41:24] <+BrandonW> You're spoiled. [03:41:27] <+BrandonW> Use DOS edit. [03:41:30] <+BrandonW> Like I do. [03:41:36] <+chronomex> BrandonW: you do? [03:41:39] <+BrandonW> Yes. [03:41:40] -!- JoelS [~JSeligste@c-76-102-163-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [03:41:42] <+BrandonW> For RAM programs. [03:41:45] <+chronomex> that's ... that's cool [03:41:57] <+BrandonW> For Flash applications, I use ZDS. [03:41:59] < Randomist> The less clicking and typing I have to do, the more appealing the programming will be to me. :) [03:42:10] <+BrandonW> Then you, sir, are not a programmer. [03:42:27] < Randomist> And I can get more done in more time. [03:42:29] < Randomist> * less [03:42:38] <+BrandonW> I need one color filling the screen, a fixed width font, and no mouse. [03:42:57] < i_c-Y> use vim [03:42:59] < i_c-Y> it is superior [03:43:06] < i_c-Y> chronomex is a heathen emacs user [03:43:07] * Randomist , unfortunantly, was not a console child. [03:43:10] < i_c-Y> do not listen to his candied lies. [03:43:32] <+BrandonW> I wasn't a console child either. [03:43:34] < Randomist> Except those two or three years when I was getting Internet through a VAX machine. [03:43:34] <+BrandonW> I don't even use Linux. [03:45:11] < Randomist> Besides, wouldn't less clicking and typing be better on your hands? I don't take very many breaks. [03:45:24] <+BrandonW> Less clicking, yes. Typing, no. [03:45:56] -!- TD-Linux [~wheeeeeee@66-188-199-114.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] [03:46:51] < i_c-Y> Randomist: where did you have access to a VAX? [03:46:54] -!- JoelS [~JSeligste@c-76-102-163-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [03:47:58] < i_c-Y> or even a microvax [03:48:03] <+chronomex> microwave? [03:48:05] < Randomist> From 1998 - 2000-something, my grandma had gotten Internet at Texas Tech and they let us dial-up for free dial-up to a VAX terminal. [03:48:26] < Randomist> * dial-up fore free to [03:48:27] <+BrandonW> Food? [03:48:34] < i_c-Y> oh. [03:48:42] <+chronomex> BrandonW: yes [03:48:55] <+chronomex> I have reheated pasta [03:49:51] * Randomist has Opera, and wonders why the hell he's still using slow-ass Firefox. [03:50:05] < i_c-Y> Randomist: i thought you might have had a vaxstation or something which would have been cool [03:52:30] <+BrandonW> How can one IE7 window to Gmail take up 142MB? [03:52:40] <+BrandonW> Of RAM. [03:52:45] * Randomist cringes. [03:53:28] < i_c-Y> same way 1 firefox window is taking 328 MB. [03:53:32] < i_c-Y> 1 tab [03:53:42] < i_c-Y> FF2 [03:53:42] <+BrandonW> What has happened to the internet? [03:53:47] < Randomist> 400M for m. [03:53:55] <+chronomex> BrandonW: http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/03/isp-quarrel-par.html [03:54:02] <+BrandonW> I remember when it took a solid minute to open IE5.5 on my Pentium 120MHz 16MB RAM PC. [03:54:20] * Randomist remembers using Lynx over dial-up. [03:54:41] < Randomist> And having only 32M of RAM. [03:54:52] < Randomist> On a 32MHz processor [03:55:31] < i_c-Y> i remember when i had a 486 DX [03:55:40] <+BrandonW> I have one. [03:55:48] <+BrandonW> I still have that Pentium 120MHz machine, too. [03:55:50] <+BrandonW> It's by my feet. [03:56:26] <+chronomex> is it burning to keep them warm? [03:57:03] <+BrandonW> No, the IDE controller's shot in it, so I'd have to fiddle with it for about 30 minutes before it'd finally recognize the hard drive and boot. [03:57:14] < i_c-Y> remember when we used to have to deal with interupts and stuff? [03:57:22] < i_c-Y> on the PC's. [03:57:27] <+BrandonW> As in IRQs? [03:57:39] < i_c-Y> yep. [03:58:09] <+BrandonW> Now young whippersnappers today look in the properties for a device and see the IRQ and memory address range it's using and wonder if anyone ever used that stuff. [03:58:39] <+BrandonW> Kids these days... [03:58:48] < i_c-Y> haha. [03:58:56] * chronomex shakes his head in sorrow [03:58:59] < i_c-Y> young whippersnappers meaning kids under 17 i think. [03:59:04] < Barrett> JoelS: who's Jamie? [03:59:32] < JoelS> Barrett: my girlfriend, why? [03:59:43] * Randomist is afraid of the latest generations of people. [03:59:44] < Barrett> really? she's a girl and works at yahoo [03:59:52] < Barrett> which is by default hot [03:59:54] <+chronomex> ... she's a GIRL? [03:59:59] <+DSP_Lord> XD [04:00:02] < i_c-Y> o.0 [04:00:10] < i_c-Y> depends on what she does at yahoo. [04:00:14] < Randomist> (The 'lol omg wtf 4 real' generation.) [04:00:18] < i_c-Y> like if she just writes articles thats lame. [04:00:19] <+chronomex> but ... that's not possible, given that she's a GIRLfriend [04:00:30] < JoelS> Barrett: are you stalking me? [04:00:32] < Barrett> she likes playing with snowballs [04:00:34] < Barrett> JoelS: yes [04:00:41] < JoelS> i_c-Y: worse... finance. [04:00:42] <+BrandonW> He likes to obsess about stuff. [04:00:45] <+BrandonW> Particularly shiny things. [04:00:46] <+chronomex> i_c-Y: what if she's one of the people who categorizes every webpage? [04:00:47] <+BrandonW> But our lives, too. [04:00:59] < Barrett> JoelS: it's actually the very top story in my News Feed [04:01:02] < i_c-Y> JoelS: does she write articles for it or program for it? [04:01:06] <+DSP_Lord> night ye dudes [04:01:12] < Barrett> "Updated: Joel Seligstein received a gift from Jamie McCandless" [04:01:19] <+chronomex> 'nite DSP_Lord [04:01:26] < JoelS> Barrett: I see. [04:01:27] <+BrandonW> facebooktard [04:01:58] < Barrett> even moreso than JoelS... which is sad :( [04:02:04] <+BrandonW> omg something happened 2 someone lets find out everything about it [04:02:19] < Barrett> BrandonW: there was more to it than "something happened 2 someone" [04:02:22] < JoelS> lol [04:02:44] < Barrett> at least I removed my wall, BrandonW... so I'm much less of a facebooktard than most people [04:02:45] <+chronomex> Barrett: like what? [04:02:47] <+BrandonW> Did you see that your Voyage 200 came? [04:02:50] -!- ports [ports@adsl-76-235-90-122.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [04:02:56] < Barrett> oh you got it already? [04:03:03] < i_c-Y> haha. [04:03:05] <+BrandonW> Yes. [04:03:08] < i_c-Y> im not on facebook. [04:03:10] < Barrett> they didn't give me anything to track it [04:03:19] < Barrett> is it still in 3 pieces? [04:03:24] <+BrandonW> Yeah, but I said it earlier in this channel and highlighted you, so I thought maybe you read it. [04:03:35] <+BrandonW> Which three pieces are those? [04:03:43] < Barrett> calculator, slide cover, and battery cover [04:03:47] <+BrandonW> Yes. [04:03:52] < JoelS> Maybe I should sell my V200, they worth anything? [04:03:52] * Randomist misses when Windows was going all fast. [04:03:53] < Barrett> nice [04:03:54] < i_c-Y> what about the backup battery cover? [04:04:05] <+BrandonW> I would've bought it if you were around a couple of days ago, JoelS. [04:04:10] <+BrandonW> You can only find them near-new. [04:04:17] <+BrandonW> If you sold it slightly cheaper, someone would buy it. [04:04:21] < JoelS> Mine's near new. [04:04:24] < Barrett> he would have had to outbid me [04:04:26] <+chronomex> how much was it? [04:04:27] < JoelS> I opened it and used it a few times. [04:04:31] <+BrandonW> $97. [04:04:40] <+BrandonW> To find it online you'd have to pay $150-$170. [04:04:41] <+chronomex> not too shabby [04:05:04] < Barrett> I have a feeling that BrandonW would have paid $130.... but I, being an idiot, started my offers at $97 [04:05:10] -!- ports [ports@adsl-76-235-90-122.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa [04:05:19] <+chronomex> haha [04:05:26] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v ports] by efneTI86 [04:05:26] <+chronomex> I paid $180 for mine, used [04:05:26] <+BrandonW> I would've had to have thought about it for $130. [04:05:27] <+ports> what [04:05:32] <+BrandonW> That's not too far off from what you can get it on eBay. [04:05:51] <+ports> chronomex, what was 180? [04:05:57] < i_c-Y> his v200 [04:06:03] <+ports> spensive [04:06:06] <+BrandonW> omg whats everyone talking about [04:06:10] <+chronomex> ENGINEERING SAMPLE :) [04:06:16] < i_c-Y> :O [04:06:16] <+BrandonW> Yes, his is special. [04:06:18] <+BrandonW> Definitely worth it. [04:06:21] -!- |DarkLor| [DarkLord@24-196-151-97.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 556 seconds] [04:06:28] <+chronomex> damn thing stopped working though [04:06:31] <+BrandonW> I have the Nspire CAS+, so take that. [04:06:36] <+chronomex> you win? [04:06:37] <+BrandonW> PROTOTYPE [04:06:38] < i_c-Y> i want a calculator thats special for reasons other than I own it [04:06:46] <+chronomex> NICE [04:06:51] <+ports> what is TI's warranty on calculators? [04:06:54] < i_c-Y> yeah, BrandonW , but the Nspire CAS is a failure. the V200 isn't. [04:06:55] * Randomist wishes they had stuck with the open-source Linux distro instead of Nucleos. [04:07:02] < Barrett> BrandonW: that's remarkable that you already got it.. I sent the thing on friday... for $3.17 [04:07:10] <+BrandonW> i_c-Y, fortunately I have them all, so I'm not missing anything. [04:07:13] < i_c-Y> i wish they made the PLT's [04:07:17] <+BrandonW> I told you it'd be fine if you went cheap. [04:07:17] < i_c-Y> BrandonW: LIES! [04:07:24] < i_c-Y> you dont have all the 92's [04:07:24] < i_c-Y> ! [04:07:26] <+chronomex> a friend of mine got 30-minute delivery from amazon [04:07:31] < i_c-Y> and you dont have the TI-89 TI BE [04:07:32] <+BrandonW> I'm missing the 92 II, die. [04:07:43] <+BrandonW> I don't care about the Titanium's color. [04:07:51] < i_c-Y> do you have hw3 and hw4? [04:07:57] <+BrandonW> Yes. [04:07:59] < i_c-Y> and hw1 and hw2? [04:08:00] < i_c-Y> oh. [04:08:01] <+BrandonW> And a guy at work has a HW2 89. [04:08:01] < i_c-Y> damn. [04:08:04] <+BrandonW> I might buy it off him. [04:08:07] <+ports> id like an 89TI [04:08:24] < Barrett> A resistor, an inductor, and ideal battery, and a switch are connected in series. Just after the switch is closed, which of the following are zero? [04:08:28] < Barrett> a) the current and the voltage across the inductor [04:08:28] < Barrett> b) the current and the voltage across the resistor [04:08:48] < Barrett> c) the voltage across the inductor and the voltage across the resistor, or d) all of the above [04:09:35] <+ports> A [04:09:56] < Barrett> Explain your reasoning. [04:10:06] <+ports> am i doing homework? [04:10:18] < Barrett> no, it's a #tcpa fun-question-of-the-day [04:10:26] <+ports> lol [04:10:35] <+chronomex> current is zero at time 0 [04:10:38] <+ports> i was going to say.. ive answered that question several times for class. [04:10:44] <+chronomex> me too [04:10:51] <+ports> i always get stuck thinking about it [04:11:00] <+chronomex> voltage at t=0 is the battery voltages [04:11:06] <+BrandonW> Do you get stuck thinking a lot? [04:11:11] < glk> Initially battery voltage is all across the inductor and none across the resistor [04:11:26] <+chronomex> ah [04:11:30] <+chronomex> glk, you're right [04:11:35] <+ports> the voltage drop across the inductor is L * di/dt [04:11:39] -!- Sir_Lewk [~john@n2-214-243.resnet.drexel.edu] has joined #tcpa [04:11:42] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!! [04:11:48] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Sir_Lewk] by SnowCrash [04:11:48] < Barrett> b) ? [04:11:50] <+BrandonW> 39MB free on drive C. [04:12:06] <+Sir_Lewk> Oh great and wonderful #tcpa gods, I beseech you! [04:12:09] < glk> Laplace transform is good for such problems [04:12:15] <+BrandonW> lol [04:12:19] <+BrandonW> You and that laplace transform... [04:12:26] <+ports> yeah [04:12:34] <+ports> glk, thats how i had to attack it [04:12:59] <+Sir_Lewk> what method do I use to solve integral(x/((9-x^2)^(1/2)))? [04:13:12] <+ports> glk, there's something weird [04:13:14] < glk> EEPRO has a table of laplace transforms and there are Laplace and Inverse L on TI download [04:13:32] <+ports> ive always seen that circuit as Battery - resistor - inductor [04:13:42] <+Sir_Lewk> should I use u-substitution? [04:13:45] <+ports> theres always flow through the resistor.. [04:14:14] <+ports> Sir_Lewk, u = x^2 ... du = 2x dx .. [04:14:24] <+ports> maybe? [04:14:38] <+BrandonW> If you hadn't sold your Voyage 200, Barrett, you'd have been able to do this problem yourself. [04:14:53] <+ports> that also looks like a trig identity? [04:14:58] < glk> -sqrt[9-x^2) [04:15:35] -!- Remius [~Remius@c-67-161-29-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [04:17:30] -!- mode/#tcpa [+o Remius] by SnowCrash [04:18:02] -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@pool-72-68-44-133.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 360 seconds] [04:18:04] < glk> In integration on the TI use ()^.5 instead of sqrt() sign . It often works better [04:18:40] <+BrandonW> And why's that? [04:20:31] <+Sir_Lewk> well it works out nicely on my 89, doesn't help me studying for my calc final though ;) [04:21:51] < glk> The 89 just likes ()^.5 better although sqrt sign usually works too [04:31:12] < Barrett> Portland is losing to Phoenix on purpose [04:31:18] < Barrett> just because they hate the Lakers so much [04:32:54] < Barrett> not that I blame them: http://youtube.com/watch?v=RY06eaFaplw [04:38:06] * Randomist growls at bitchy TASM. [04:38:54] <+BrandonW> Just get it set up right and be happy. [04:39:29] < Randomist> It's complaining 'cause ion.inc has a bunch of the same labels that's already in ti83plus.inc [04:40:26] <+Sir_Lewk> ok, I integrated (x/((9-x^2)^(1/2))) by hand and got (9-x^2)^.5, the answer is negative of that though [04:40:38] < Randomist> Does your ti83plus.inc already have all the ION calls in it? [04:40:38] <+Sir_Lewk> anyone know where I might have gone wrong? [04:41:10] <+Sir_Lewk> I will never troll anyone who can help me with this again [04:42:57] <+ports> why isnt it just -(9-x^2)^(1/2) [04:43:09] <+Sir_Lewk> well yes, that's the answer [04:43:09] <+ports> hrm.. [04:43:19] <+Sir_Lewk> I got that, sans the - [04:43:19] <+ports> gotta compensate for the -2x [04:43:26] <+ports> -1/2 out front [04:43:40] <+Sir_Lewk> ah ha [04:43:51] * Sir_Lewk gives a million internets to ports [04:44:09] <+ports> no prob [04:46:53] < Barrett> You know who else hates the Lakers? [04:46:55] < Barrett> the Queens [04:47:45] < Spengo> ahh ettercap, so useful :D [04:47:47] <+ports> oh [04:47:54] * Spengo wins again >:] [04:49:14] <+BrandonW> Randomist, then change them. [04:49:18] <+BrandonW> Delete from one of them. [04:51:00] * Randomist wonders what the error 'Forward reference in equate' measn. [04:51:02] < Randomist> * means [04:51:10] <+BrandonW> That's nice. [04:51:21] <+BrandonW> I bet if you ask an actual question, you might get an answer. [04:51:23] <+BrandonW> Instead of using /me. [04:52:26] * Randomist adds another AutoCorrection entry. [04:52:37] <+BrandonW> It's not healthy if you can't stop doing that. [04:52:51] < Randomist> what the error 'Forward reference in equate' mean.? [04:52:58] <+chronomex> whoa, amazon's MP3 service has a Debian package [04:53:01] <+BrandonW> Close enough. [04:53:10] <+BrandonW> It means you're trying to use something in an equate that's not defined until later. [04:53:16] <+BrandonW> What line is it complaining on? [04:54:15] < Randomist> Line 18 in 'ion.inc': #DEFINE lVectors cmdshad + 80 [04:54:50] <+BrandonW> Where is cmdshad defined? [04:55:14] < Randomist> In ti83plus.inc [04:55:21] < Randomist> Which is included before ion.inc [04:55:48] <+BrandonW> Why is cmdshad in ti83plus.inc? [04:55:52] <+BrandonW> In that file it should be cmdShadow. [04:56:07] < Randomist> I dunno, there's a bunch of weird stuff in your ti83plus.inc. [04:56:19] <+BrandonW> I'm just going to fix it once and for all. [04:57:00] <+BrandonW> The only ones that want it are the ones that don't know how to use it. [04:57:09] <+BrandonW> Or how to fix it. [04:59:43] <+BrandonW> ion.inc sucks, just use mirage.inc. [05:01:19] <+BrandonW> It'll have everything you need and more. [05:02:06] <+BrandonW> http://rafb.net/p/dJzO8l32.html mirage.inc [05:03:22] <+BrandonW> I changed ti83plus.txt to be right now. [05:04:42] -!- DA|laptop [~DA_laptop@cpe-76-186-207-38.tx.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa [05:11:35] < Barrett> remind me to never go into logging (trees) [05:11:42] * Randomist should, from now on, make all his programs for MirageOS. [05:12:28] <+chronomex> Barrett: why not? [05:13:10] < Barrett> my roommate just told me that you sell trees for about $50 per ton [05:13:16] <+chronomex> ah [05:14:11] < DA|laptop> ugh 360 froze [05:14:58] -!- ports [ports@adsl-76-235-90-122.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 496 seconds] [05:25:04] -!- Hunterkll [~Hunterkll@host-12-199-80-11.clearviewcatv.net] has joined #tcpa [05:30:52] -!- rivereye [rivereye@c-71-205-94-72.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [05:33:59] -!- Barrett [~chavez@76.8.217.50] has quit [] [05:35:32] -!- Tari_ [Tari@CPE-24-167-219-20.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa [05:35:34] <@efneTI86> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November [05:35:43] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Tari_] by etaonrish [05:37:12] -!- ports [ports@adsl-76-235-90-122.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa [05:37:23] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v ports] by efneTI92 [05:40:01] -!- Tari [Tari@CPE-24-167-219-20.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 360 seconds] [05:41:02] <@Nikky> Caps lock [05:41:05] <@Nikky> cruise control for cool [05:42:48] <+chronomex> sure [05:44:53] -!- Randomist [~Randeimos@74.196.213.51] has quit [Quit: Harsh generation, / We'll tear your world apart / Sign of the times, / This is the coming of a new kind...] [06:02:51] -!- Netham47 [~Nathan@c-76-25-242-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [06:02:51] <@efneTI86> [Netham47] wewt [06:02:52] -!- Netham46 [~Nathan@c-76-25-242-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] [06:06:09] -!- ports [ports@adsl-76-235-90-122.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 496 seconds] [06:10:14] -!- Netham46 [~Nathan@c-76-25-242-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [06:10:15] <@efneTI86> [Netham46] wewt [06:18:46] -!- Netham47 [~Nathan@c-76-25-242-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [06:31:51] -!- JoelS [~JSeligste@c-76-102-163-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] [06:51:54] -!- bsparks [~NinjaDrag@cpe-75-185-102-73.insight.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] [06:51:54] -!- Zeromus [~NinjaDrag@cpe-75-185-102-73.insight.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] [06:55:11] -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@pool-72-68-44-133.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa [07:02:12] -!- Zeromus [~NinjaDrag@cpe-75-185-102-73.insight.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa [07:02:22] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Zeromus] by efneTI83 [07:16:43] -!- bsparks [~NinjaDrag@cpe-75-185-102-73.insight.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa [07:16:54] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v bsparks] by SnowCrash [07:27:38] -!- Tyler2 [~nexon@residence-204-75.henday.ualberta.ca] has quit [KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'] [07:39:06] <@E-J> Andy_J: i have done "/mode +o-o" before once, but now that you warned about that, i can be sure that i won't do it or that again [07:40:47] <+chronomex> ? [07:41:27] <@E-J> nothing [07:42:05] <+chronomex> okay [07:44:28] <@E-J> school -> [07:48:49] <+chronomex> cya [08:03:25] -!- glk [glk@adsl-70-234-153-86.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has quit [grahamkendall.net/ my url] [08:03:54] <+bsparks> so... [08:04:00] <+bsparks> I can has girlfriend [08:05:48] -!- Netsplit hub.efnet.us <-> ircd.arcti.ca quits: +DSP_Lord, Hunterkll, Spengo, non-sense, +sgm [08:07:05] <+bsparks> that fact caused a netsplit [08:11:55] <+Sir_Lewk> you know what's hot? [08:11:58] <+Sir_Lewk> hot for words [08:12:18] <+Sir_Lewk> why the hell can't people tell me about these sorts of things sooner?!? [08:12:38] <+bsparks> ? [08:13:22] <+Sir_Lewk> http://www.hotforwords.com/ [08:13:31] <+Sir_Lewk> probably the hottest smart chick ever [08:13:45] <+Sir_Lewk> at least on the internet [08:16:20] -!- Netsplit over, joins: +sgm [08:17:23] -!- Hunterkll [~Hunterkll@host-12-199-80-11.clearviewcatv.net] has joined #tcpa [08:17:23] -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@cpe-066-056-250-157.ec.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa [08:17:23] -!- Spengo [~zounds@64.251.241.140] has joined #tcpa [08:17:23] -!- non-sense [non-sense@CPE001a9242cc4d-CM0012257058c6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #tcpa [08:17:23] -!- ServerMode/#tcpa [+v DSP_Lord] by irc.igs.ca [08:19:22] <+Sir_Lewk> if you do not like that then you are gay [08:19:59] -!- Netsplit hub.efnet.us <-> ircd.arcti.ca quits: +DSP_Lord, Hunterkll, Spengo, non-sense, +sgm [08:25:09] -!- Netsplit over, joins: Spengo, +DSP_Lord, non-sense, Hunterkll, +sgm [08:41:10] -!- Exploiter [~Exploiter@71-221-201-38.spkn.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: We are Anonymous. We have awoken. We stand as one.] [08:56:56] -!- Sir_Lewk [~john@n2-214-243.resnet.drexel.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] [09:15:52] -!- DA|lappy [~DA_laptop@cpe-76-186-207-38.tx.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa [09:17:47] -!- DA|laptop [~DA_laptop@cpe-76-186-207-38.tx.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 190 seconds] [09:21:49] -!- Hunterkll [~Hunterkll@host-12-199-80-11.clearviewcatv.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] [09:22:19] -!- Hunterkll [~Hunterkll@host-12-199-80-11.clearviewcatv.net] has joined #tcpa [09:36:45] -!- Sir_Lewk [~john@n2-214-243.resnet.drexel.edu] has joined #tcpa [09:36:45] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!! [09:37:02] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Sir_Lewk] by etaonrish [09:47:25] -!- Hunterkll [~Hunterkll@host-12-199-80-11.clearviewcatv.net] has left #tcpa [Leaving] [10:21:47] -!- non-sense [non-sense@CPE001a9242cc4d-CM0012257058c6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 306 seconds] [10:24:27] -!- rivereye [rivereye@c-71-205-94-72.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [10:24:28] <@efneTI86> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing? [10:24:38] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v rivereye] by efneTI89 [10:31:29] < nicolas> morning lads [10:57:14] * nicolas yaaaawns [11:02:03] -!- rivereye [rivereye@c-71-205-94-72.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] [11:21:24] <@E-J> some of us have been over 4 hours awake [11:24:05] -!- DA|lappy [~DA_laptop@cpe-76-186-207-38.tx.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 190 seconds] [11:31:05] -!- incubus[] [~mrbob@c-76-30-198-88.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 190 seconds] [11:36:31] -!- incubus[] [~mrbob@c-76-30-198-88.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [11:36:48] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v incubus[]] by efneTI86 [11:44:51] -!- al_zzzzz [~a@123-243-237-83.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #tcpa [12:18:03] < nicolas> E-J: so have I... I'm just tired :P [12:18:46] <@E-J> me too, taurine++ coffeine++ [12:20:04] <@E-J> or to be more specific http://www.vip-juicemaker.fi/index.php?id=249 [12:20:40] < nicolas> hmm never heard of it [12:22:53] <@E-J> well, same effect as red bull, tastes even more horrible but costs only half or less [12:23:18] < al_zzzzz> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_(drink) all the way [12:23:23] < al_zzzzz> and actually tastes nice [12:23:51] < nicolas> never heard of that either [12:24:02] <@E-J> i doubt they sell these anywhere else than in finland, maybe in estonia or sweden [12:24:23] < nicolas> guess it's mostly sold down south, eh al_zzzzz ? [12:25:11] < nicolas> although it says there that V is exported to the UK in cans... never seen any [12:27:24] <@E-J> red ed has best taste of finnish energy drinks (taste like red berries) but i don't think those are sold outside finland either [12:27:49] <@E-J> battery might be only one sold somewhere out there [12:28:05] < nicolas> I don't know any of those [12:28:35] <@E-J> http://www.batterydrink.com/ [12:28:45] < nicolas> all I know is Red Bull, Red Devil, Red Rooster, and Burn [12:28:52] < nicolas> they must have Red everything [12:28:58] < nicolas> oh and Shark [12:29:27] <@E-J> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_%28drink%29 [12:29:55] <@E-J> we have mad crock, red bull, battery, teho, ed, rodeo, red devil, ... [12:30:36] < nicolas> oh, in the uk they have think called glucozade which is not bad [12:30:48] < nicolas> and probably one or two knock offs of that [12:31:17] < nicolas> they say it gives you 33% more energy :P [12:32:27] -!- tr1p1ea [~me@121.79.42.26] has joined #tcpa [12:37:54] -!- al_zzzzz is now known as al_busy [12:38:03] < al_busy> we have red bull, I can't stand the taste of it [12:51:16] -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.22.125] has quit [Quit: Leaving] [12:58:39] -!- benryves [~benryves@host81-157-216-169.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #tcpa [12:58:44] -!- mode/#tcpa [+o benryves] by efneTI86 [13:00:14] -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.22.125] has joined #tcpa [13:00:16] <@efneTI86> [Merthsoft] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles. [13:00:24] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Merthsoft] by efneTI89 [13:36:44] -!- incubus[] [~mrbob@c-76-30-198-88.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 360 seconds] [13:46:54] -!- Randomist [~Randeimos@74.196.213.51] has joined #tcpa [13:49:22] < i_c-Y> al_busy: redbull sucks :( [13:49:42] < i_c-Y> i have ampd, monster, sobe no fear in my dorm [13:52:35] < al_busy> never tried monster but a shop near works sells it [13:52:40] < al_busy> what do you reakon? [13:54:49] -!- likeWOAH [~Icy@pool-72-68-51-116.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa [13:55:48] <@E-J> i think most energy drinks here taste same or almost same as red bull, but i think i'm not very good with tastes [13:58:35] -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@pool-72-68-44-133.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 360 seconds] [14:00:31] < Randomist> ASCII only has 255 chars, right? [14:02:04] < nicolas> hmm [14:02:08] < nicolas> it sort of depends [14:02:15] < nicolas> technically it has only 127 [14:02:29] -!- itsi_c-Y [~Icy@pool-72-68-50-214.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa [14:06:35] -!- likeWOAH [~Icy@pool-72-68-51-116.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 360 seconds] [14:06:56] -!- itsi_c-Y is now known as i_c-Y [14:12:26] * Randomist goes away and looks for an easy way to make a 4x5 font. [14:14:04] < nicolas> by getting an already existing one [14:14:09] < nicolas> :P [14:14:14] -!- likeWOAH [~Icy@pool-72-76-182-182.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa [14:14:30] < Randomist> There's already one for the calc? [14:14:30] < nicolas> http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/348/34894.html [14:16:15] < likeWOAH> and its by our own tr1p1ea [14:16:46] < nicolas> indeed [14:16:50] < nicolas> whois likeWOAH [14:16:58] < likeWOAH> who do you think likeWOAH is? [14:17:16] < nicolas> oh icy [14:17:18] < likeWOAH> yep. [14:17:33] < likeWOAH> my modem keeps crashing. its time for a manual reboot but im too lazy to go do it [14:17:39] < nicolas> hehe [14:17:45] < nicolas> how far is it ? [14:18:00] < likeWOAH> across the hall. [14:18:30] < likeWOAH> but someone probably knocked it down or something so i have to dig through wires for it [14:19:14] -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@pool-72-68-50-214.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 360 seconds] [14:20:46] -!- itsi_c-Y [~Icy@pool-71-125-77-199.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa [14:20:54] -!- itsi_c-Y is now known as i_c-Y [14:21:04] < i_c-Y> wifi + dsl modem crashes = :( [14:21:15] < i_c-Y> i did reboot it manually though. [14:25:34] -!- likeWOAH [~Icy@pool-72-76-182-182.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 360 seconds] [14:25:46] -!- Leofox [Miranda@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has joined #tcpa [14:25:48] <@efneTI86> [Leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR! [14:48:41] -!- Barrett [~chavez@76.8.217.50] has joined #tcpa [14:59:39] -!- HQAT [~123@dhcp-077-250-085-059.chello.nl] has joined #tcpa [14:59:50] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v HQAT] by etaonrish [15:24:58] -!- benryves [~benryves@host81-157-216-169.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] [15:25:07] -!- benryves [~benryves@host81-157-216-169.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #tcpa [15:25:11] -!- mode/#tcpa [+o benryves] by efneTI86 [15:41:07] * Randomist wonders what kind of phone number is (000)-000-0000. [15:42:02] < nicolas> american [15:43:42] <@benryves> nicolas: Lies, all US phone numbers have 555 in them. [15:44:00] < nicolas> hehehehe [15:44:19] < nicolas> yes, they are all 555-xxxx [15:44:30] < nicolas> if we exclude the (000) [15:45:24] < Leofox> what? they are? [15:45:42] < Leofox> isnt that like for mobile only [15:46:12] < Leofox> i wonder why american phone numbers have the same amount of digits as dutch phone numbers [15:47:52] < nicolas> isn't it like .. the 555 prefix doesn't actually exist? [15:48:10] < nicolas> so they use taht in films [15:48:33] <@benryves> Aye, in the UK there's a special directory of reserved numbers (rather than a standard prefix). [15:53:38] <@benryves> Or not, after looking it up. :\ *shrugs* [15:56:03] < i_c-Y> Randomist: in australia it dials the emergency stuffs [15:56:32] <@Andy_J> 555 actually does exist [15:56:38] <@Andy_J> it didn't used to, but they need to use it now [15:56:42] <@Andy_J> only certain numbers in it are fake [15:56:50] < i_c-Y> i think dialing that though would escape to a different country, Randomist [15:57:23] <@benryves> Andy_J: 0100..0199 is supposedly the range of numbers reserved for film and TV use. [15:57:34] <@Andy_J> I think dialing 000-000-0000 would get you an operator [15:57:46] * Randomist shrugs. [15:58:03] < i_c-Y> someone try it [15:58:09] < Randomist> For some reason, we keep getting calls every once in a while from that number. [15:58:18] < i_c-Y> oh, spoofed callerid [15:58:28] < i_c-Y> its ez [15:58:38] <@Andy_J> spoofed or not available [15:58:47] <@Andy_J> in fact [15:59:15] <@Andy_J> http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Youll-Need-to-Come-Downtown.aspx [15:59:18] <@Andy_J> ^ related [16:01:13] -!- rivereye [rivereye@c-71-205-94-72.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [16:01:15] <@efneTI86> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing? [16:01:24] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v rivereye] by efneTI86 [16:03:20] -!- Merth [~Shaun@140.141.22.125] has joined #tcpa [16:03:23] <@efneTI86> [Merth] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles. [16:03:32] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Merth] by efneTI86 [16:05:29] -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.22.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] [16:47:32] -!- patz2009 [~Patrick@c-69-247-152-128.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [16:47:42] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v patz2009] by efneTI86 [16:54:51] -!- Ximoon\w [Ximoon@m112.net81-64-36.noos.fr] has joined #tcpa [16:57:39] -!- ports [ports@adsl-76-235-90-122.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa [16:57:52] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v ports] by SnowCrash [16:57:53] <+patz2009> Party over here! [16:57:58] <+patz2009> (> -_- )> [16:58:02] <+patz2009> Party over there! [16:58:06] <+patz2009> <( -_- <) [16:58:24] -!- Ximoon\w [Ximoon@m112.net81-64-36.noos.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 198 seconds] [16:58:35] < Randomist> What about there -- [Points in some random location.]? [16:58:43] <+patz2009> No. [16:58:49] <+patz2009> Only in these 2 spots. [16:59:56] <@benryves> Thanks for the warning, patz2009 [17:00:11] -!- Barrett [~chavez@76.8.217.50] has quit [] [17:00:19] < i_c-Y> party at schindlers and im on his A list [17:00:20] <+patz2009> Anyone attempting to party anywhere else will be shot. [17:00:50] * benryves is on the CLIST [17:01:20] * E-J is on the ArrayList [17:01:36] <+patz2009> It's hard out here for a pimp. [17:04:59] <@benryves> I still am amused by the well-known lift manufacturer Schindler. Doesn't take much. :\ [17:05:27] <+chronomex> Schindler's Lift gets me too :) [17:09:13] < i_c-Y> benryves: do you know if opera has firefox like searching as an option? [17:09:41] <+chronomex> ctl-f [17:09:51] <+chronomex> or type / to search incrememtally [17:10:30] < i_c-Y> no, like make the search come at the bottom [17:11:50] <+chronomex> ? [17:12:42] < i_c-Y> like if you use firefox [17:12:46] < i_c-Y> you press control f [17:12:52] < i_c-Y> you get a little bar at the bottom [17:13:21] <@benryves> i_c-Y: Oh, yep, / [17:13:35] <+chronomex> ah I don't think opera has that [17:13:37] <@benryves> ...which chronomex already said. [17:13:47] <+chronomex> :) [17:13:56] <+chronomex> but man octalpus just said I'm too slow [17:13:59] <+chronomex> how did I beat you? [17:14:17] <@benryves> Probably because I was away doing work stuff. :P [17:14:18] < i_c-Y> for some reason it only lets me search one letter. [17:14:26] <+chronomex> keep typing? [17:14:30] < i_c-Y> i did [17:16:05] <@benryves> . also does the same thing, but , searches in links. [17:16:09] < i_c-Y> like if im on lets say opera:about, and i hit / and then type in Openssl, it only selects all the O's and disappears. [17:16:21] <+chronomex> that's odd [17:16:40] < i_c-Y> i thought they changed / for 9.5 maybe [17:16:42] <@benryves> Odd, can't replicate that here :| [17:16:56] < i_c-Y> but i looked at opera 9.2's compatible layout and its still / [17:17:05] < i_c-Y> maybe i should try a non weekly build. [17:17:10] <@benryves> Oh, 9.5 is pretty broken anyway :\ [17:17:18] < i_c-Y> silence >:( [17:17:21] < i_c-Y> 9.5 is the future! [17:17:36] <+bsparks> hey, can PTI send programs from itself, or export them somehow? [17:17:51] <@benryves> Yes, future. But, like all Opera betas, it seems pretty damned broken. :\ [17:18:46] <@benryves> (For example, http://benryves.com/images/Opera9.5Maxcoderz.png <- wtf?) :) [17:21:52] < i_c-Y> ok it works again [17:22:03] <@Nikky> 9.5 kicks ass [17:22:10] < i_c-Y> chronomex: it was just an issue with a weekly build [17:22:23] < i_c-Y> 9.5 does kick ass. [17:22:37] <@benryves> Featurewise, yep. :) [17:24:03] <@benryves> IE8 is actually pretty decent, as far as IE goes, too. [17:24:14] <@Nikky> IE7 is pretty decent [17:24:34] -!- JoelS [~JSeligste@out285.sctm.tfbnw.net] has joined #tcpa [17:25:11] <@benryves> Though the "Emulate IE7" button is a tad on the clunky side >_> [17:25:19] < i_c-Y> benryves: if you dont love IE , who will? [17:25:45] < Leofox> i like ie8 [17:25:58] < Leofox> although they have to work on the standards support a bit more [17:26:04] < Leofox> because a lot of pages break as they are now [17:26:19] < Leofox> and i hate how i have to restart it to emulate 7 [17:27:06] <@benryves> Leofox: Part of that might be due to the sites expecting broken features from earlier versions of IE. I do like how you can opt-out of the new stricter layout engine, though (in a future-proof manner). [17:28:07] -!- rivereye[ [rivereye@c-71-205-94-72.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [17:28:07] <@efneTI86> [rivereye[] Is it time to go fishing? [17:28:20] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v rivereye[] by etaonrish [17:28:52] <@benryves> All hail :D [17:29:14] <+patz2009> lolwut [17:29:47] <@benryves> No more panic when a new version of the browser comes out and breaks your site. :\ [17:30:17] <+patz2009> Supposedly, IE8 adheres to standards. [17:30:24] <+patz2009> We'll just see how well that goes. [17:31:02] < Leofox> benryves, the sites work on browsers that follow the standards better, like firefox and opera [17:31:44] <@benryves> Yes, but the site might be doing a (or similar) [17:32:36] -!- rivereye [rivereye@c-71-205-94-72.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [17:35:22] < Leofox> you can do that? [17:35:28] < Leofox> i always use stupid hacks [17:35:44] < Leofox> there's a portion of my website that breaks in every version of IE and in IE only [17:35:54] <@benryves> Yes, IE provides a sane way to conditionally include content via comments. [17:36:19] < Leofox> i should look into that [17:36:36] < Leofox> it is weird, it breaks in every version of IE i tried [17:36:38] <@benryves> eg, due to lack of :hover on li elements in IE<=6, I have [17:37:06] < Leofox> but firefox and safari are fine even though i developed for opera [17:38:20] -!- rivereye[ [rivereye@c-71-205-94-72.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [17:39:45] <@benryves> What's that? [17:43:19] -!- benryves [~benryves@host81-157-216-169.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has left #tcpa [] [17:52:28] -!- rivereye [~rivereye@c-71-205-94-72.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [17:52:29] <@efneTI86> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing? [17:52:42] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v rivereye] by efneTI86 [17:58:31] -!- rivereye [~rivereye@c-71-205-94-72.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] [17:58:58] -!- rivereye [rivereye@c-71-205-94-72.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [17:59:17] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v rivereye] by efneTI92 [17:59:20] -!- Merth is now known as Merthsoft [18:02:11] -!- Sir_Lewk [~john@n2-214-243.resnet.drexel.edu] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [18:07:16] -!- rivereye [rivereye@c-71-205-94-72.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] [18:37:18] -!- ports [ports@adsl-76-235-90-122.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: You know, it's the first time someone suggested I go in that direction!] [18:38:41] < Randomist> Do shells like ION, CruncyOS, etc., load up all the information (the descriptions, etc) about programs that will be in the menu, or does it get that information as you scroll down the list? [18:51:55] <+sgm> Probably gets a list of programs first, then fishes out the descriptions lazily. [18:52:09] <+sgm> Read the sources if you really want to know. [18:54:45] -!- rivereye [rivereye@c-71-205-94-72.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [18:54:46] <@efneTI86> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing? [18:54:55] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v rivereye] by etaonrish [18:59:42] -!- gh_ [~gh@4va54-2-82-227-187-146.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #tcpa [18:59:53] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v gh_] by efneTI86, efneTI83 [19:01:59] -!- benryves [~benryves@79-72-90-186.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #tcpa [19:02:03] -!- mode/#tcpa [+o benryves] by efneTI86 [19:02:11] <+patz2009> yay benryves! [19:02:23] <@benryves> 'lo patz2009 [19:02:30] <+patz2009> hello. [19:02:35] <+patz2009> how are you doing today? [19:03:32] -!- Netham47 [~Nathan@c-76-25-242-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [19:03:32] <@efneTI86> [Netham47] wewt [19:03:38] <@benryves> Irritated with hosting companies, as always. Yourself? [19:03:54] <+patz2009> Being bored, Spring Break is boring for me. [19:04:22] <@benryves> Spring break? [19:04:34] <+patz2009> Since Easter is this weekend and all. [19:04:41] <@benryves> As far as I'm aware that's basically half-term. :\ [19:04:42] <@Nikky> he was suspended from school, benryves [19:04:50] <+patz2009> >_> [19:05:19] <+chronomex> Nikky: orly? [19:05:39] <@benryves> By which part of his anatomy? [19:08:43] -!- Netham45 [~Nathan@c-76-25-242-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [19:08:45] <@efneTI86> [Netham45] wewt [19:09:08] <+patz2009> you guys aren't supposed to know about that <_< [19:11:50] -!- Netham46 [~Nathan@c-76-25-242-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 556 seconds] [19:14:49] <+chronomex> how did we learn, then? [19:15:13] <+patz2009> iono [19:16:10] -!- Netham47 [~Nathan@c-76-25-242-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 556 seconds] [19:16:26] <+chronomex> Netham keeps incrementing ... [19:16:38] <+patz2009> Ban him for clone [19:16:39] <+patz2009> s [19:17:05] < i_c-Y> as long as theres only one of him i suppose we'll let him exist [19:17:27] -!- rivereye[ [rivereye@c-71-205-94-72.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [19:17:28] <@efneTI86> [rivereye[] Is it time to go fishing? [19:17:39] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v rivereye[] by efneTI86 [19:17:44] <@Andy_J> !qadd <+patz2009> Being bored, Spring Break is boring for me. | <@Nikky> he was suspended from school, benryves | <@benryves> By which part of his anatomy? | <+patz2009> you guys aren't supposed to know about that <_< [19:17:47] <@efneTI86> Quote 1226 added [19:17:55] <+patz2009> -_- [19:18:06] <+chronomex> hehe [19:18:09] <@Andy_J> I lol'd. [19:18:18] <+chronomex> I sniggered [19:18:30] <+patz2009> !qfind for 50 dollars [19:18:30] <@efneTI86> No matches [19:18:39] <+patz2009> !qfind for $50 [19:18:41] <@efneTI86> No matches [19:18:46] <+patz2009> oh come on [19:18:47] <+chronomex> !qfind $50 [19:18:48] <@efneTI86> No matches [19:18:48] <@Andy_J> !qfind e [19:18:51] <@efneTI86> 1007:DSP_Lord: <_3fg> !k _3fg can I get a what what | * _3fg was kicked by efneTI86 (Paul_B: can I get a what what) | * _3fg has joined #tcpa | ... | wtf was that all about? | <_3fg> what what | * _3fg was kicked by PatrickD (this is your punishment for misusing the !k privilege) | <_3fg> :( | <_3fg> I guess no use is better than misuse [19:18:55] * Andy_J XD [19:18:56] <@efneTI86> 887:Nikky: There's always time for talking assembly. | And jello. | Room, that is. | BrandonW> Wow, I screwed that up. [19:18:58] <@efneTI86> 870:aardvarq: end of saw I | I saw saw I | * aardvarq chuckles | I saw saw I. Did you see saw II? | I saw saw II, saw you saw III? [19:19:00] <+patz2009> O_O [19:19:01] <@efneTI86> (Plus 803 more matches: http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/?filter=e&channel=tcpa&search=search) [19:19:02] <@Nikky> stop hilighting me [19:19:12] <+patz2009> 806 matches xD [19:19:37] <+patz2009> !qfind Nikky [19:19:39] <@efneTI86> 1130:aardvarq: Who names their kid Kerm? | he has this whole fake name thing going for some reason | That's like, "Honey, I REALLY want our baby to get made fun of later in life.. " "Me, too, dear, what about... Kerm?" "It's perfect!" | if i have a son, his name will be Jack | Jack? | *** DSP_Lord is darksidep@res.rr.com * Matthew Offner | haha | that's great [19:19:44] <@efneTI86> 772:KevinJB: Do you know what real life is? | In a space ship? [19:19:46] <@efneTI86> 786:DarkAuron: I use a TI-89T. Ask if you want my data on it | do you have data on how easy it is to open the case? when compared against a traditional TI-89 case? | no | I'd be much interested in such data [19:19:50] <@efneTI86> (Plus 92 more matches: http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/?filter=Nikky&channel=tcpa&search=search) [19:20:00] <@Andy_J> Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky [19:20:06] * Andy_J runs [19:20:12] <@benryves> Mushroom MUSHROOM. [19:20:12] <+chronomex> Andy_J: once per line is how to do it [19:20:21] <@Andy_J> benryves: XD [19:20:24] <+chronomex> LOL [19:20:26] <@Nikky> Die [19:20:57] <@Andy_J> !qadd <@Nikky> stop hilighting me | <@Andy_J> Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky [...] Nikky | <@benryves> Mushroom MUSHROOM. | <@Nikky> Die [19:20:58] <@efneTI86> Quote 1227 added [19:21:18] <@Andy_J> I couldn't help myself. [19:21:20] <+Speler> That's what she siad [19:21:24] <+Speler> said* [19:21:26] <+chronomex> Andy_J++ [19:21:42] <@benryves> Speler: Said the actress to the bishop. [19:21:55] < Netham45> god damnit my internet sucks today [19:22:01] <+Speler> But... which bishop was it?!?! [19:22:02] <+chronomex> Netham45: we can tell [19:22:03] < Netham45> every hour or so I loose everything [19:22:23] <+Speler> At least you don't lose everything [19:22:26] <+Speler> Because that'd suck [19:22:36] < Netham45> yea [19:22:49] <@Nikky> We don't care Netham45 [19:24:58] -!- rivereye [rivereye@c-71-205-94-72.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [19:25:49] < Netham45> hehe [19:25:49] < Netham45> O [19:25:57] < Netham45> I was Netham49 on Freenode [19:28:22] -!- rivereye[ [rivereye@c-71-205-94-72.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] [19:28:55] <@Nikky> Why are you on freenode [19:33:10] < Netham45> why am I here? [19:33:28] <+chronomex> to annoy us [19:33:56] <@Nikky> Basically, yes [19:33:59] < Netham45> not purposfully, it just kind of comes naturally. [19:34:06] <+chronomex> great [19:34:17] <@Nikky> I think he's also hoping to get control of tcpa somehow [19:34:37] < DarkAuron> good luck on that [19:34:45] < Netham45> where the hell did that come from? [19:34:52] <@Nikky> You're like rivereye [19:34:53] <+chronomex> from Nikky [19:35:05] <@Nikky> always grubbing to be an "admin" [19:35:09] < Netham45> I never really said more than hi to rivereye [19:35:15] < Netham45> ok... [19:35:15] <@Nikky> like it's some sort of magir word or something [19:35:34] <@Nikky> It's really amusing to watch [19:36:04] < Netham45> right... [19:36:13] < Netham45> you go on thinking that. [19:36:21] <@Nikky> Especially on omnimaga [19:36:41] <@Nikky> it's shameful how you go against his wishes so you can bring back a channel and give yourself control over it [19:36:55] <@Nikky> That's like robbing a blind homeless vet. [19:37:05] < Netham45> actually, we are equal on levels [19:37:10] < Netham45> and Telroth owns the channel [19:37:23] <@Nikky> And we all know telroth is basically worthless [19:37:24] <+chronomex> who is telroth? [19:37:31] <@Nikky> chronomex: some fuckoff who thinks he's a dragon [19:37:36] < i_c-Y> omnimaga isnt back yet? [19:37:42] < Netham45> the website isn't [19:37:44] <+chronomex> Nikky: thanks for the update [19:37:47] < Netham45> the chatroom never went down [19:37:55] <@Nikky> chatroom LOL [19:38:12] < Netham45> channel, w/e [19:38:12] <@Nikky> that's what #omnimaga is... an AOL chatroom [19:38:43] <+chronomex> damn, every time I try to talk to mha he seems to be having dinner [19:38:56] <+chronomex> dude it's not dinnertime, it's lunchtime [19:39:02] <+chronomex> I don't know what's wrong with him [19:39:02] <@Nikky> It's because he doesn't want to talk to you [19:39:08] <+chronomex> no not that [19:39:22] < Netham45> people can ban everyone from AOL chatrooms for no reason? [19:39:39] <+chronomex> Netham45: that's how IRC works, dunno about AOL [19:40:02] < Netham45> well, he said #omnimaga was like an AOL chatroom... [19:40:07] <@Nikky> Maybe we should start a "netham sucks" petition. :D [19:40:11] <+chronomex> like != == [19:40:29] <@Nikky> You tell him [19:40:30] < Netham45> you nerd [19:40:45] <@Nikky> no, chronomex is a wonderful geek [19:40:48] <@Nikky> Netham45 is a nerd [19:41:03] -!- deeph [~deeph@d77-218-88-10.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #tcpa [19:41:11] <@Nikky> Hi deeph :) [19:41:21] -!- deeph [~deeph@d77-218-88-10.cust.tele2.fr] has left #tcpa [] [19:41:26] <+chronomex> bye deeph :) [19:41:30] <@Nikky> Bye deeph.... [19:41:33] <@Nikky> screw you [19:41:46] * chronomex wins :D [19:41:54] <@Nikky> :( [19:42:04] <@Nikky> Excuse me while I go emo. [19:42:30] <+chronomex> okay [19:42:36] < nicolas> Nikky: you mean go cry/whine in a corner and cut yourself... ? [19:42:47] <@Nikky> Exactly [19:44:27] < i_c-Y> aww Nikky , dont go KO on us [19:44:52] <+chronomex> potassium oxide? [19:45:15] <+patz2009> Wouldn't that be K2O? [19:45:32] <+chronomex> I don't know, I'm not a chem wiz like you [19:46:13] <+patz2009> For the charges to be neutral, another proton would be needed, coming from another potassium ion... [19:46:26] < Netham45> chronomex, I take back that nerd comment. [19:46:30] < Netham45> patz2009, YOU NERD! [19:46:32] <+chronomex> Netham45: what comment? [19:46:34] <+patz2009> =] [19:46:41] < nicolas> Netham45: you n00b! [19:46:47] < Netham45> chronomex, I called you a nerd earlier [19:46:50] <+chronomex> when? [19:46:55] < Netham45> when you said like != == [19:47:02] <+chronomex> oh [19:48:50] < Netham45> Who is Arthur C. Clarke? [19:48:58] <+chronomex> !k Netham45 n00b [19:48:58] < nicolas> you ARE kidding right ? [19:48:59] -!- Netham45 was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [chronomex: n00b] [19:49:02] -!- Netham45 [~Nathan@c-76-25-242-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [19:49:09] < Netham45> :( [19:49:11] < nicolas> !k Netham45 noob twice [19:49:12] -!- Netham45 was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [nicolas: noob twice] [19:49:14] -!- Netham45 [~Nathan@c-76-25-242-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [19:49:26] -!- rivereye [rivereye@c-71-205-94-72.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa [19:49:28] <@efneTI86> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing? [19:49:37] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v rivereye] by Remius [19:49:46] < Netham45> the name sounds so familiar, but I just can't rembember what he did. [19:49:47] < Randomist> Hm... this editor is slow, but not too shabby... it keeps everything lined-up properly, and if I change a label, it updates everything that refrenced it. [19:49:49] < Netham45> he was an author, right? [19:49:50] < Spengo> oh man [19:49:59] < Spengo> holy shit @ top score for never gonna give you up [19:50:10] < Spengo> hax [19:50:19] < Spengo> in audiosurf [19:50:27] < Netham45> lol [19:50:29] < Netham45> oh yea [19:50:38] < Netham45> heh, he did 2001: a space odyssey [19:50:42] < Spengo> lmao [19:50:47] < Spengo> I haven't done that [19:53:46] <@E-J> arthur c clarke is one of those who i didn't believe to be alive anymore, after all he did his big novels on fifties or something like that [20:00:26] <@E-J> 1968 was 2001 made [20:15:45] < Netham45> np: Wargames - 0:07:08 / 0:52:33 [20:29:37] < Spengo> eh? I didn't know that, there's thc hydra for arm :O [20:29:51] < Spengo> I bet huntrkll could put that on his iphone, heh [20:32:16] < Spengo> oh wait except you can't run 3rd party software on iphone OH WELL -_-;; [20:36:06] <+chronomex> wait, you can't? [20:36:31] -!- Milyardo [Milyardo@MSB11-107.flint.umich.edu] has joined #tcpa [20:36:33] <@Nikky> nope [20:38:00] < Milyardo> growl [20:38:03] -!- benryves [~benryves@79-72-90-186.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 556 seconds] [20:38:11] < DarkAuron> lol, downloading torrents on a psp [20:39:18] < Milyardo> Wow DarkAuron is still here... its like I never left except not in #ticalc for some reason [20:40:13] < DarkAuron> eh? [20:40:34] < Spengo> dream wardriving machine: cheap low power x86 handheld device with debian :P [20:40:35] < DarkAuron> why wouldn't I be here? [20:40:52] < Spengo> hmm... maybe I should get an eeePC lmao [20:41:00] < DarkAuron> Spengo: you can wardrive with a DS [20:41:03] < Spengo> not really [20:41:25] < Spengo> there's aireplay but it's a proof-of-concept thing, not something actually useful [20:41:34] < Netham45> stupid freenoders [20:41:41] < Netham45> spamming my on DCC [20:41:45] < Spengo> because the DS's wifi can only recieve like 2mbps or something [20:41:55] < Spengo> not to mention it's complete inability to use 802.11g [20:42:06] < DarkAuron> PSP then [20:42:15] < Spengo> psp can't do 802.11g either [20:42:35] < DarkAuron> really? interesting [20:42:57] < DarkAuron> the atheros chip on the eeepc is tiny, suprised psp doesn't have something like it [20:42:58] < Spengo> yeah, it's not x86 either, it's MIPS [20:43:03] -!- SnowCrash [~SnowCrash@adsl-75-4-248-44.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has left #tcpa [] [20:43:03] < DarkAuron> I know [20:43:19] -!- SnowCrash [~SnowCrash@adsl-75-4-248-44.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa [20:43:20] < Spengo> there isn't that much stuff that compiles for MIPS [20:43:35] < i_c-Y> there is. [20:43:43] <+chronomex> gcc does, right? [20:43:43] < Netham45> there is an X86 emulator for the PSP [20:43:47] < i_c-Y> gcc can crosstarget mips [20:43:51] < Spengo> yeah but it's slow [20:43:53] < Spengo> i_c-Y, really? [20:43:56] < Grue> you're slow [20:43:57] < Spengo> hmm maybe I should look into that [20:43:58] < Netham45> yea, it's really slow. [20:44:00] < i_c-Y> duh, Spengo [20:44:09] < Spengo> I never tried it before [20:44:10] < i_c-Y> how the hell do you think the linuxmips project has been surviving? [20:44:19] < Spengo> heh, good point [20:44:22] < i_c-Y> theres a ton of toolchains for mips [20:44:37] < i_c-Y> cause theres a shitload of stuff that uses mips [20:44:44] < Spengo> still, an x86 handheld would be ideal [20:44:50] <@E-J> i have debian on nas which have mips [20:45:14] -!- mode/#tcpa [+o SnowCrash] by efneTI83 [20:45:14] < i_c-Y> why? [20:45:20] -!- mode/#tcpa [+o SnowCrash] by efneTI86 [20:45:24] <@Nikky> Because he can [20:45:26] <@Nikky> asswhore [20:45:29] < i_c-Y> not E-J [20:45:31] < i_c-Y> Spengo [20:45:37] < nicolas> mips is used a lot in embedded stuff no ? [20:45:45] < i_c-Y> and other things. [20:45:59] <@Nikky> lol eeePC [20:46:03] <@Nikky> Do people actually get those? [20:46:08] < Spengo> I dunno :O [20:46:10] < i_c-Y> Alpha for one is a lot like mips, nicolas [20:46:49] < i_c-Y> lotta workstations had mips at one poitn [20:46:50] < i_c-Y> point* [20:47:00] -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.22.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 375 seconds] [20:47:03] < i_c-Y> heck, there was a NT 4 version for mips i believe [20:47:08] < DarkAuron> theres an activity community on the eeeuser.com forum Nikky [20:47:49] < DarkAuron> ASUS sold 300,000 of them in less than two months [20:48:19] < i_c-Y> EEEPc's are garbage [20:49:54] < Spengo> they should remake it with no speakers, bigger screen, and smaller (eliminate all that useless empty space) [20:50:25] < i_c-Y> they should give it some power [20:50:33] < i_c-Y> and some ram slots [20:50:38] < i_c-Y> oh yeah and make it not suck. [20:52:16] <@E-J> epia is good x86 thing for some small systems, it still might be little big for handhelds [20:52:35] <@E-J> motherboard is 17cm*17cm [20:53:05] < i_c-Y> theres a lot of portable x86 options. [20:53:11] < i_c-Y> heck, casio has em in their calcs. [20:53:21] <+chronomex> orly? [20:53:48] < i_c-Y> via has a shitload of em, intel made 486's for embedded apps and the AMD geode line is x86 [20:54:28] < i_c-Y> VIA corefusion is on one chip, and SiS also has some iirc [20:57:11] < i_c-Y> actually, i think intel stopped putting out the 486's [20:57:16] < i_c-Y> like last year [20:57:24] < Milyardo> they did' [20:57:56] < i_c-Y> chronomex: yeah. check the Algebra FX 2.0 and the Graph 100 and some others i think [21:03:39] < i_c-Y> either way, there exist small implementations of x86 stuffs, Spengo . But in most cases where this is such a significant factor, why x86 when you can ARM? [21:06:01] < i_c-Y> and... that killed the channel [21:07:03] <@E-J> why ARM when you can LEG and why LEG when you can KILL [21:13:01] < V200> cus [21:14:48] < i_c-Y> V200 JUST KICKED IN , YO! [21:30:10] -!- TheStorm [~chatzilla@CPE-24-167-216-134.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa [21:32:15] -!- Milyardo [Milyardo@MSB11-107.flint.umich.edu] has quit [] [21:32:56] -!- smealum [~smealum@82.243.132.64] has quit [] [21:33:45] -!- ports [ports@adsl-76-235-90-122.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa [21:33:59] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v ports] by efneTI92 [21:36:28] * Randomist wishes MirageOS had a routine to _copy_ a program or appvar from archive to RAM. [21:38:03] -!- scabby [~scabby@host86-131-234-219.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #tcpa [21:38:12] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v scabby] by efneTI86 [21:38:13] <@E-J> you can always make one [21:38:14] < Netham45> Randomist, make one. [21:38:19] <+scabby> hello hello hello [21:38:40] <@E-J> scabby the kinder egg [21:38:53] <+scabby> the kinder egg? [21:39:18] < i_c-Y> Randomist: maybe it exists [21:39:48] <@E-J> on my childhood, there was tv commersial "hello hello hello, minä olen kinder-yllätysmuna" = "hello hello hello, i'm kinder surprice egg" [21:39:58] <+scabby> ah i see [21:40:13] <+scabby> but 'hello hello hello' is what a policeman says! [21:40:27] <@E-J> some annoying commersials stick to head :) [21:42:19] <+scabby> too true [21:43:23] < i_c-Y> and Randomist , if you want to unarchive something , isnt there arcprog or something in mirageos? [21:43:37] -!- Tyler2 [~nexon@residence-204-75.henday.ualberta.ca] has joined #tcpa [21:43:39] <@efneTI86> [Tyler2] I speak fluent dialup. [21:43:42] < i_c-Y> im woefully out of date with the z80 calcs [21:43:48] < i_c-Y> and dont remember stuff. [21:43:53] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Tyler2] by efneTI83 [21:46:24] < Randomist> i_c-Y: 'Cept isn't unarchiving/rearchiving a bad thing, s'pecially if you're just wanting to read data out of an AppVar and not write anything back? [21:49:08] <+Tari_> if you want to read an archived file, you can either read it into a buffer, or create a temporary copy in RAM [21:52:11] < Randomist> That's what I want to do.. (hopefully it's not complex). [21:53:24] < Netham45> Randomist, the main bad thing is that that will cause garbage collections. [21:53:37] <@E-J> http://www.pekkaniska.com/content/view/23/10/lang,en/ only in finland? (especially 5th) [22:01:37] < i_c-Y> just start smoking then quit it in a day or two [22:01:42] < i_c-Y> +1000 euro [22:01:46] < i_c-Y> or smoke fake cigarettes [22:01:47] < i_c-Y> :D [22:03:05] * Randomist goes off to look for a copy-to-RAM routine. [22:04:22] <+Tari_> _FlashToRAM [22:04:56] -!- al_busy [~a@123-243-237-83.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] [22:05:09] < i_c-Y> golly gee :) [22:06:38] <+patz2009> How hard is it REALLY for a pimp? [22:10:46] -!- scabby [~scabby@host86-131-234-219.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [22:13:19] -!- Tari__ [Tari@CPE-24-167-219-20.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa [22:13:21] <@efneTI86> [Tari__] Remember, remember the 5th of November [22:13:28] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Tari__] by Remius [22:13:37] * patz2009 remembers the 6th of November [22:14:01] -!- Leofox [Miranda@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [22:14:15] -!- Tari__ is now known as Tari [22:14:16] <+Tari> good boy [22:15:25] -!- Leofox [Miranda@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has joined #tcpa [22:15:47] -!- Tari_ [Tari@CPE-24-167-219-20.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 360 seconds] [22:16:53] -!- bsparks [~NinjaDrag@cpe-75-185-102-73.insight.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [22:19:36] -!- bsparks [~NinjaDrag@cpe-75-185-102-73.insight.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa [22:19:50] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v bsparks] by efneTI81 [22:21:51] -!- Leofox [Miranda@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [22:26:50] -!- Leofox [Miranda@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has joined #tcpa [22:27:11] -!- scabby [~scabby@host86-131-234-219.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #tcpa [22:27:24] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v scabby] by efneTI83 [22:27:34] <+scabby> rehi [22:28:31] -!- gh_ [~gh@4va54-2-82-227-187-146.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [gh_] [22:29:57] -!- Tyler2 [~nexon@residence-204-75.henday.ualberta.ca] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [22:31:48] < TheStorm> hmm I love debunking those environmentalist yelling their heads off about global warming [22:32:33] <@Andy_J> What's to debunk? It *is* happening. [22:32:34] < i_c-Y> do you also like debunking that the holocaust happened? [22:32:45] <@Andy_J> Except a more apt term is "global climate change." [22:34:21] <+patz2009> !qfind any virus [22:34:22] <@efneTI86> 474:JMan: <+Michael_V> Any virus that shares an ending with hyperbola and parabola is a friend of mine [22:34:24] <@efneTI86> (All of 1 match) [22:35:34] < i_c-Y> like ebola! [22:35:55] < TheStorm> OK prove it [22:36:14] < i_c-Y> how about you prove that its not happening [22:36:15] < TheStorm> we only have data from so many years so you can't [22:36:18] <@Andy_J> Look out the window. [22:36:25] < TheStorm> um why> [22:36:27] <@Andy_J> QED. [22:36:49] < TheStorm> I can see ou my window just fine we still have snow [22:37:01] <@Andy_J> Do you normally have snow at this time of year? [22:37:03] < TheStorm> we were 10 inches from a record this year [22:37:08] < TheStorm> no [22:37:08] <@Andy_J> I know we don't, and we currently do. [22:37:18] <@Andy_J> Then there you go, climate change. [22:37:42] < TheStorm> um one year is proof of nothing [22:37:58] < TheStorm> last year we had one of our lowest yearly totals [22:38:37] -!- scabby [~scabby@host86-131-234-219.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [22:38:48] < TheStorm> you are trying to say that a few years of data can prove something you are saying has goone one for x amount of years [22:39:11] < TheStorm> and we only know some of the factors not all of them [22:39:12] <@Andy_J> It's more than a few years of data. [22:39:14] * Andy_J signs [22:39:16] <@Andy_J> *sighs [22:40:23] -!- Leofox [Miranda@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [22:40:38] < TheStorm> so 30 years ago when whne we made that record it was also global warming? [22:41:00] -!- scabby [~scabby@host86-131-234-219.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #tcpa [22:41:10] < i_c-Y> we arent the first civilizations to note warming. [22:41:15] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v scabby] by efneTI92 [22:41:19] -!- Leofox [Miranda@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has joined #tcpa [22:41:37] < TheStorm> proving that it can't be our fualt [22:41:49] < TheStorm> if it is really happening [22:42:03] < i_c-Y> that doesnt mean we're not accelerating it. [22:42:05] < TheStorm> which it may be I won't say it isn't [22:42:15] < TheStorm> but we have no proof either way on that [22:42:45] < TheStorm> and if we are there is nothing we can do about it unless we go back to the stone age [22:43:18] < TheStorm> and that won't have any effect for at least 20 years [22:43:23] < i_c-Y> would you like to debunk the holocaust too? [22:44:07] < TheStorm> no I know that happened we have death camps and eye witness accounts to prove it [22:44:08] -!- TD-Linux [~wheeeeeee@66-188-199-114.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #tcpa [22:44:19] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v TD-Linux] by efneTI92 [22:44:45] < TheStorm> but we have nothing to prove we have anything to do with climate change [22:45:23] < i_c-Y> all the people who say this "holocaust" thing happened are lying - theres no proof of it. they built it to get money from the rest of the world. [22:45:39] < i_c-Y> no proof to contradict that so i must be right tra la la. [22:46:23] < TheStorm> see I can give you proof hell I'm sure you can get a plane ticket to go see the proof for your self but [22:46:30] < TheStorm> I ain't paying [22:46:38] < TheStorm> and yes we doo have proof [22:46:44] <+Tari> naw [22:46:52] <+Tari> they built all that stuff to get your money [22:47:06] <+Tari> they didn't kill jews in those camps [22:47:17] < TheStorm> oh yeah they killed babies [22:47:18] <+Tari> they were vacation destinations for german officers [22:47:31] < TheStorm> hmm I like yours better [22:47:44] < TheStorm> so the ovens were for baking cookies [22:47:53] <+Tari> yes, exactly [22:48:01] <+Tari> delicious cookies [22:48:10] < TheStorm> what about the gas showers? [22:49:20] <+Tari> what gas? oxygen? [22:49:58] < TheStorm> they had rooms that looked like shower but instead of water poisonous gas came out of the wall. [22:50:06] < TheStorm> you need pic? [22:51:21] <@Andy_J> yay my time capsule has an estimated delivery of before 10:30 friday now [22:52:41] <+chronomex> time capsule? [22:52:50] <@Nikky> some silly mac thing [22:53:00] <+chronomex> o ok [22:54:27] < TheStorm> Oh at Andy_J shall I quote rule 32 of the internet "You must have pictures to prove your statements" [22:54:31] < Leofox> it's like a backup thing [22:54:39] <+TD-Linux> TheStorm, it was pesticide [22:54:39] < Leofox> TheStorm, that's not rule 32 [22:54:49] <@Andy_J> airport extreme base station + 500 GB hard drive in one unit [22:54:59] <@Andy_J> for less than either individually [22:55:03] <+TD-Linux> they used the chambers to disinfect stuff [22:55:04] <@Andy_J> can't go wrong [22:55:13] < Leofox> apple has cheap stuff? [22:55:15] < Leofox> since when? [22:55:20] <+TD-Linux> whoa [22:55:21] <@Andy_J> 32 is there's porn of everything isn't it? [22:55:24] <+TD-Linux> that's pretty neat [22:55:27] < Leofox> no thast's 34 [22:55:28] < TheStorm> thats 34 [22:55:36] <@Andy_J> shows how little I know. [22:55:55] < TheStorm> so what is 32 leofox? [22:56:30] < TheStorm> because according to the pic i have it is 32 [22:56:36] < Leofox> depends on the picture [22:56:47] <@Andy_J> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rule+32 [22:56:50] < Leofox> i thought it was tits or gtfo [22:56:59] < Leofox> but this one says the same as yours [22:57:04] < TheStorm> thats 31 [22:57:10] < Leofox> oh ok [22:57:13] < Leofox> i had them switched nvm [22:57:27] < Leofox> shouldnt it be pics or it didnt happen anyway [22:58:00] <@Andy_J> dammit, what's that other rule [22:58:03] <@Andy_J> 90-something [22:58:07] <@Andy_J> from xkcd [22:58:14] <@Andy_J> I am failing miserably. [22:58:34] < Leofox> If friends spend more than 60 minutes unable to decide what to do, they must default to sexual experimentation. [22:58:42] -!- |DarkLor| [DarkLord@24-196-151-97.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #tcpa [22:58:47] -!- Barrett [~chavez@76.8.217.50] has joined #tcpa [22:58:56] <@Andy_J> yeah, but what rule IS it [22:59:02] < Barrett> So I installed Vista SP1 this morning [22:59:06] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v |DarkLor|] by Remius, efneTI89 [22:59:14] < Barrett> and Vista still runs perfectly well without any problems [22:59:20] < Leofox> 99.2b? [22:59:27] <@Andy_J> That implies it ran well in the first place. [22:59:32] < Barrett> it did [22:59:46] <@Andy_J> Leofox: that's not helping me find the comic. Gah. [23:00:37] -!- |DarkLor| [DarkLord@24-196-151-97.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] [23:00:48] <@Andy_J> found it [23:01:00] <@Andy_J> http://xkcd.com/330/ [23:02:22] < Leofox> hehe [23:02:25] < Leofox> xkcd is great [23:06:44] <@E-J> http://naurunappula.com/178975/1204131575648.jpg [23:08:18] <@E-J> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v370/russ2022/64k-memory.jpg [23:08:32] -!- HQAT [~123@dhcp-077-250-085-059.chello.nl] has quit [] [23:09:05] <@E-J> and second link can't be old or ancient! [23:18:14] -!- TheStorm [~chatzilla@CPE-24-167-216-134.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 3.0b4/2008030714]] [23:18:29] <+patz2009> I've got the power of 64k memory! [23:18:41] <+scabby> WOW [23:18:46] <+scabby> use your commodore by the pool!?!? [23:19:02] <+patz2009> I do it all the time [23:19:27] <+scabby> awesomezzzzz [23:22:11] <+chronomex> 's not as cool as an Osborne though [23:33:17] <+ports> http://www.zedge.net/videos/35638/hidden-cams-video/ [23:33:38] < Spengo> pow pow pow pow [23:46:15] -!- smealum [~smealum@82.243.132.64] has joined #tcpa [23:51:15] <+TD-Linux> I broke my $20 sony headphones [23:51:18] <+ports> http://www.zedge.net/videos/35638/hidden-cams-video/ [23:51:18] <+TD-Linux> now I'm mad :( [23:51:31] <+ports> watch that video [23:51:34] <+ports> you wont be mad [23:53:11] <+TD-Linux> is it good without sound? [23:53:29] < Spengo> TD-Linux, now's your excuse to get some $100 bose headphones [23:53:36] <+ports> TD-Linux, yes [23:53:41] <+ports> that video is NSFW [23:53:59] < Spengo> ports, good thing MV isn't on then, heh [23:54:05] * Randomist wonders why TI made BCALLs that do absolutely nothing but RET. [23:55:07] <+TD-Linux> I see. [23:55:08] < Spengo> Randomist, I know why [23:55:40] < Spengo> they probably made everything in C++ or something then used one of those shitty C++=>asm compilers [23:56:23] <+chronomex> 'd have to be a pretty shitty compiler [23:58:45] < Spengo> yeah well you notice there really aren't any good C++ compilers for z80 [23:59:05] <+chronomex> I haven't looked [23:59:16] < Spengo> BrandonW, you ever considered working for TI? [23:59:23] < Spengo> think of it as infiltration :P [23:59:29] < Spengo> hehe --- Log closed Thu Mar 20 00:00:59 2008