--- Log opened Tue Mar 18 00:00:59 2008
[00:08:46] < Randomist> What would be the preg_replace() for changing timestamps like "[02:13.22]" or "[01:55.29]" to the actual bytes, like, Ox02h 0x13h 0x22h or 0x01h 0x55h 0x29h?
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[00:14:45] <@efneTI86> [Merthsoft] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
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[00:18:55] <+patz2009> ewww...
[00:19:51] < Hunterkll> ewww.....
[00:19:52] < Hunterkll> =]
[00:19:54] < Hunterkll> lol
[00:20:19] < i_c-Y> Randomist: why?
[00:20:24] < i_c-Y> why not just strtok?
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[00:21:01] <@efneTI86> [Netham45] wewt
[00:21:12] < i_c-Y> strtok it and then atoi it or something
[00:21:46] < i_c-Y> well
[00:21:49] < i_c-Y> you dont have to atoi it
[00:23:10] < i_c-Y> php doesnt need it
[00:24:07] < i_c-Y> and why would you do the bytes that way
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[00:24:37] < Randomist> 'cause Captioneer reads the first three bytes of each line for the timestamps.
[00:26:39] < i_c-Y> in any rate then, use strtok to split on [:.] and then justwrite 0x(string)h
[00:35:04] < i_c-Y> you can also use split i suppose
[00:35:24] <+patz2009> Where's the fun in that?
[00:35:41] < i_c-Y> either way if you want to use preg, go read the regex man page
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[00:39:29] < i_c-Y> and he doesn't reply
[00:40:42] <+Merthsoft> hrg
[00:40:57] <+Merthsoft> wikipedia isn't working
[00:43:37] <+Nikky> :(
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[00:44:36] <+Nikky> It seems to be down for me as well, honey bear
[00:44:45] <+Merthsoft> damn
[00:45:15] <+Merthsoft> :<
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[00:53:14] <+BrandonW> Wikipedia's dead?! Whatever shall we do?!
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[00:55:11] <+Nikky> Panic
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[00:57:47] <+patz2009> I feel my brain matter decomposing...
[00:58:53] <+patz2009> NEED MOAR KNOWLEDGE!
[00:59:03] < i_c-Y> okay
[00:59:20] <+BrandonW> Maybe you need more brains, zombie.
[00:59:34] <+patz2009> BRAINZ?
[00:59:45]  * i_c-Y retracts strtok knowledge from Randomist and pastes it to patz2009 
[01:00:05] <+patz2009> woohoo!
[01:00:23] < Randomist> Hm?
[01:00:24] <+Speler> BrandonW, http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
[01:00:54]  * Calgar readies his automatic shotgun, whilst glancing over the room looking for signs of zombies
[01:02:40] <+patz2009> it would suck if wikipedia and all of its backups were somehow erased
[01:02:45]  * dietsche found one (zombie)
[01:03:13] <+Speler> patz2009, it's just a spoof of uncyclopedia, we wouldn't really be missing much
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[01:03:22] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!!
[01:03:32] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Sir_Lewk] by efneTI83
[01:04:14] <+Sir_Lewk> is wikipedia down for anyone?
[01:04:15] < Calgar> with the massive profusion of wikipedia mirrors out there...... it is incredibly unlikely
[01:04:29] <+Sir_Lewk> I'm getting 93% packet lose pinging them over ethernet
[01:04:34] <+Sir_Lewk> everything else is fine
[01:04:44] <+patz2009> Sir_Lewk: You're not the only one
[01:04:53] < boxknife> Maybe aliens are downloading wikipedia
[01:05:09] <+Sir_Lewk> this is fscking absurd
[01:05:22] <+Sir_Lewk> maybe this is their way of begging for donations?
[01:05:55] <+patz2009> Merth brought it up about 20 minutes ago
[01:06:13] < i_c-Y> we should find an ethnic group to blame
[01:06:16] < i_c-Y> i say the jews
[01:06:23] <+Speler> Naw
[01:06:26] < i_c-Y> the japs?
[01:06:27] <+BrandonW> This is when you say "I was going to donate to Wikipedia, but when I went there, the site was down!"
[01:06:30] <+BrandonW> That'll motivate them.
[01:06:33] < boxknife> lol
[01:06:34] < i_c-Y> hm
[01:06:42] < i_c-Y> BrandonW: did you get that from stuffwhitepeoplelike.org?
[01:06:54] <+BrandonW> No, I just made it up.
[01:07:01] < Calgar> they use a distributed grid of servers.... sometimes a few go screwy, and the ones that are left are overloaded by taking up all the traffic
[01:07:33] < i_c-Y> what happens if you take sleeping pills with alcohol?
[01:08:15] <+Nikky> bad stuff
[01:08:45] <+BrandonW> Find out for us, i_c-Y.
[01:09:03] < dietsche> you go to the hospital
[01:09:04] <+BrandonW> My bet's on a little vomiting and that's it.
[01:09:15] < dietsche> they "fix" you
[01:09:20] < dietsche> and put you in rehab ;)
[01:09:21] <+Speler> It depends on how much
[01:09:34] <+BrandonW> You don't speak from experience, do you, dietsche?!
[01:09:49] < dietsche> of course not....
[01:10:06] < dietsche> of course, two negatives (depressants in this case) make a positive
[01:10:15] < dietsche> so it really should be a good "high"
[01:10:17] < dietsche> logically
[01:10:26] < i_c-Y> haha
[01:10:32] < dietsche> yeah, i think you should try it
[01:10:35] < i_c-Y> i lack the alcohol.
[01:10:44] < dietsche> more sleeping pills?
[01:11:01] < i_c-Y> i dont have those either
[01:11:05] < i_c-Y> but thats just a minor side point
[01:11:05]  * dietsche thinks you gotaa make up for the missing alcohol
[01:11:10] < dietsche> hmm
[01:11:15] < dietsche> then that was a silly question
[01:11:20] <+BrandonW> I say you just jump off a cliff.
[01:11:25] <+BrandonW> But there has to be water at the bottom.
[01:11:30] <+BrandonW> So there's some hope of you surviving.
[01:11:31] < dietsche> i have evil minions to do that for me
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[01:12:40] < i_c-Y> haha.
[01:13:17] < Randomist> Yay, I have a working converter now...
[01:13:33] < i_c-Y> congratulations.
[01:13:36] < i_c-Y> what did you end up doing?
[01:13:41] < i_c-Y> reading the regexp page ?
[01:14:06] <+BrandonW> What kind of a crazy question is that?
[01:14:22] < i_c-Y> Randomist does read documentation... sometimes.
[01:14:22] < Randomist> Ended up doing this - http://unitedti.pastebin.org/24207
[01:16:30] < i_c-Y> hm
[01:16:36] < i_c-Y> lame, but i suppose if it works, whatevz/
[01:16:47] < i_c-Y> you'll have to tell people to use php 5.1 or later.
[01:17:13] < i_c-Y> based on the negative limits on explode
[01:17:25] <+BrandonW> I don't think the goal is to include the source.
[01:17:31] < Randomist> No, this is going to be online.
[01:17:32] <+BrandonW> Just to make it available for use on his domain.
[01:17:41] < i_c-Y> oh, word.
[01:23:46] <+BrandonW> Hence the stupidity.
[01:25:31] <+BrandonW> i_c-Y's a racist.
[01:25:52] <+BrandonW> He blames ethnic groups for stuff, visits a site called stuffwhitepeoplelike.org...
[01:25:56] <+BrandonW> Makes kittens cry...
[01:25:59] <+BrandonW> That just screams racist.
[01:26:20] < i_c-Y> i make kittens cry because im awesome.
[01:27:11] < Randomist> My parents _always_ blame ethnic groups for stuff.  I'm glad I didn't 'inherit' that.
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[01:36:47] <+BrandonW> Who are you people?
[01:36:51] <+BrandonW> We're the good guys, Michael.
[01:38:35] <+Speler> Randomist, that's like my grandparents
[01:38:48] <+Speler> They won't take me to the orthodontist because she's indian
[01:40:11] <+Sir_Lewk> I think I may be a white person
[01:41:28] <+Sir_Lewk> though I am anti-recycling
[01:41:52] <+Sir_Lewk> only immoral/shallow corporate whores recycle
[01:43:57] <+TD-Linux> ...
[01:44:11] <+Sir_Lewk> tell me you don't recycle...
[01:45:22] <+Sir_Lewk> well, if you get paid for recycling it's ok
[01:46:15] <+Sir_Lewk> if not you are a naive cooperate whore
[01:46:35] < Randomist> I fail to see the logic in that.
[01:46:53] <+Sir_Lewk> well, why do you recycle if you're not being paid for it?
[01:46:58] <+chronomex> why not?
[01:47:37] < Randomist> You get paid for it in the long run.
[01:47:57] < DarkAuron> recycled stuff costs more
[01:48:06] <+Sir_Lewk> because you were told it was good for the environment or something?  The recycling industry is and INDUSTRY, if you arn't getting paid for giving them their raw resource, someone else it, generally local politicians
[01:48:22] < DarkAuron> anything you buy that's recycled costs more
[01:48:38] <+Sir_Lewk> exactly
[01:48:57] <+Sir_Lewk> companies saying that recycled stuff costs less are lying
[01:49:06] <+Sir_Lewk> if it did, they would keep the profits anyways
[01:49:25] <+Sir_Lewk> hell, in my area you have to pay them *extra* to recycle
[01:49:52] <+Sir_Lewk> that's like a coal mine paying factories to use their coal
[01:51:07] <+Sir_Lewk> supporting recycling by not getting paid for it encourages lobbyists, thereby encouraging political corruption
[01:52:50] <+Nikky> Well said Mr. neocon
[01:52:57] <+Nikky> screw the earth
[01:53:07] <+Sir_Lewk> thank you godless liberal
[01:53:44] <+Sir_Lewk> you should have pointed out that I shouldn't be against political corruption as a neocon
[01:54:19] < Netham45> earth > political stability
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[01:54:50] <+Sir_Lewk> in the great and wise words of Nikky, "screw the earth"
[01:55:08] < Netham45> "great and wise" hardly
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[01:55:49] <+Sir_Lewk> if human-kind can't expand beyond the earth eventually, then we aren't worth a shit and don't deserve to stick around anyways
[01:55:53]  * Randomist takes a hand drill and drives it into the sand.
[01:56:04] < Netham45> so...
[01:56:28] < Netham45> all the animals that can't leave earth(dogs/cats/etc...) aren't worth shit, so we should kill them.
[01:56:44] <+Sir_Lewk> I don't give a sh*t about animals
[01:56:53] < Netham45> obviousally
[01:57:01] <+Sir_Lewk> do bears care about dolphins?
[01:57:18] < Netham45> do bears have the mental capacity to care?
[01:57:32] <+Sir_Lewk> do I have a reason?
[01:57:42] < Netham45> yes.
[01:57:48] <+Sir_Lewk> what?
[01:57:51] < Netham45> food.
[01:58:09] <+Sir_Lewk> we can create genetically engineered yeast
[01:58:14] <+Nikky> I say we label Sir_Lewk as an "ass" and ignore him.
[01:58:20] <+Nikky> What's up Netham45?
[01:58:24] < Netham45> hi Nikky
[01:58:25] < Netham45> not much
[01:58:31]  * Randomist cringes at genetically-engineered food.
[01:58:36] <+Sir_Lewk> prude
[01:58:38] < Netham45> Sir_Lewk, fine, eat yeast for the rest of your life.
[01:58:50] <+Sir_Lewk> sounds good to me
[01:58:58] < Netham45> good, then.
[01:59:04] < Netham45> I'll laugh when it rises in your stomach
[01:59:10] < Netham45> and we have a loaf of Sir_Lewk.
[01:59:14] <+Sir_Lewk> maybe we can even create yeast/cow hybrids.
[01:59:27] <+Sir_Lewk> they'd recreate via budding
[01:59:33] < Netham45> they plump when you cook them?
[01:59:44] < Netham45> ah
[02:00:23] < Randomist> I'd be weary of genetically-engineered, synthetic, artificial food... no telling what they be putting up in there.
[02:00:46] < Netham45> strawberries that you get from your local grocery store are genetically-engineered to be larger.
[02:00:47] < i_c-Y> hm
[02:00:50] < i_c-Y> wiki is fast now atleast
[02:01:02] < Netham45> wikipedias back?
[02:01:02] <+Sir_Lewk> no telling what's already in crap
[02:01:04] < Netham45> it was offline earlier
[02:01:05] <+Sir_Lewk> yeah
[02:01:17] <+Sir_Lewk> it's back as of several minutes ago
[02:01:17] < Randomist> I'd rather be a subsistance farmer or something.
[02:02:14] <+Sir_Lewk> I'd rather be a cyborg mercenary
[02:03:10] < Netham45> I'd rather Sir_Lewk didn't try to impose his views upon us.
[02:03:23] < Netham45> your views suck.
[02:04:29] <+Sir_Lewk> geniuses are rarely understood in there own time
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[02:05:06] < Netham45> oh
[02:05:12] < Netham45> I fully understand what you are saying
[02:05:19] < Netham45> it is just so horriendiousally stupid.
[02:05:28] < Netham45> (like my spelling of that word, hehe.)
[02:05:34] <+Sir_Lewk> you fail to understand the genius, not the meaning
[02:05:41] <+Sir_Lewk> lol
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[02:06:13] < Netham45> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius < you will never be on this page.
[02:06:28] < Netham45> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_awards < you might be on this page.
[02:06:31] <+patz2009> Hey! Wikipedia is back!
[02:06:38] < Netham45> yea
[02:06:47] <+Sir_Lewk> well I certainly make the 140 cut off
[02:06:58] < Netham45> I highly doubt that
[02:07:06] <+Sir_Lewk> I'm sure you do
[02:07:45] <+Sir_Lewk> I won't go so far as to claim that I'm past 180
[02:09:04] <+Merthsoft> Netham45: I don't think you're in any place to make a judgment call about people's intelligence.
[02:13:30] < Netham45> Sir_Lewk, those polotical views make me doubt that highly
[02:14:35] < i_c-Y> RON PAUL 2008!
[02:14:55] <+Merthsoft> because politics is how they measure iq...
[02:14:56] < i_c-Y> OBAMA will O BOMB YOU!
[02:15:19] < i_c-Y> etc.
[02:16:33] < Netham45> Merthsoft, no, but I can use the logic(or lack of) behind those views to gauge his rough intelligence.
[02:17:35] <+Merthsoft> you're an idiot
[02:17:39] <+Sir_Lewk> no
[02:18:02] <+Sir_Lewk> logic, (or lack of) is not an indicator of intelligence
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[02:18:28] <+Merthsoft> political views are not indicators of intelligence
[02:20:15] < i_c-Y> otherwise we might think of Merthsoft as intelligent.
[02:20:21] <+Merthsoft> indeed
[02:20:25]  * Randomist wonders who started this argument.
[02:20:51] <+Sir_Lewk> probably me
[02:20:57] <+Sir_Lewk> ranting about recycling
[02:21:19] < i_c-Y> so, Randomist , when can we see a working edition of your program?
[02:21:58] < Randomist> If I work diligently, maybe, perhaps at the end of Spring Break.  Otherwise, before the month ends.
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[03:25:11] < Netham45> oops
[03:28:20] < Spengo> *̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ ı̴̴ ̡̡|̲͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲͡ π̲͡ ̲͡▫̲͡ ̲ ̲͡▫̲͡ ̲ ̲͡▫̲͡ ̲ ̲͡▫̲͡▫̲͡ ̲|̡̡ ̡ ̡ ̴̡ ı̴̴ ̡*̡͌l̡*
[03:28:24] < Spengo> :D
[03:28:27] < Spengo> render THAT
[03:28:43] <+BrandonW> You're an idiot.
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[03:39:35] < Spengo> haha
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[03:40:22] < Barrett> I don't believe that it was an entirely unnecessary Linux question... I've already googled this, and researched it quite a bit
[03:40:45] <+Merthsoft> yeah, you're probably right
[03:40:50] <+Merthsoft> i just like giving BrandonW props
[03:41:05] <+BrandonW> I'm usually right anyway.
[03:43:35] < Barrett> anyway... my work's server was the target of a broot force attack the other night
[03:43:47] < Barrett> but mac server locks for 15 minutes after 5 unsuccessful login attempts
[03:43:53] <+BrandonW> A broot force attack, you say?
[03:44:00] <+BrandonW> Did you beat them to death in retaliation?
[03:44:01] < Barrett> isn't that how you say it?
[03:44:06] <+BrandonW> No, it's brute.
[03:44:28] < Barrett> at least I don't spell easier words incorrectly
[03:44:34] < Barrett> but I will remember that one
[03:44:47] <+Nikky> It's okay
[03:44:54] <+Nikky> you were in the DR for a few years
[03:44:55] <+Nikky> :)
[03:45:11] < Barrett> then than their they're there to two too its it's
[03:45:14] <+BrandonW> That excuse only works for so long.
[03:45:52] < Barrett> the words that I just listed are spelled incorrectly 90% of the time on most online discussion systems
[03:45:58] < Barrett> I don't know how that's even possible, but it happens
[03:46:07] < Barrett> you'd think that if they were just guessing, they'd get it right half the time
[03:46:08] < Barrett> but no
[03:46:37] < Barrett> I was probably thinking of Brood War
[03:46:37] <+BrandonW> No, they learn it the wrong way.
[03:47:11] <+Nikky> brood war
[03:47:14] <+Nikky> what a great expansion
[03:47:18] < Barrett> yeah
[03:47:28] < Barrett> although I think that it added a little too much to protoss
[03:47:31] < Barrett> (mind control)
[03:47:42] < Barrett> If you start out as protoss you can have up to 600 units
[03:47:59] <+BrandonW> Anyone who plays that game is a loser.
[03:47:59] <+Nikky> but it takes forever
[03:48:04] <+BrandonW> I don't understand how people can waste their day playing RPGs.
[03:48:09] < DarkAuron> what happened to SC68k?
[03:48:14] <+Nikky> Starcraft was a RTS
[03:48:19] < DarkAuron> BrandonW: not an RPG
[03:48:21] < Barrett> is
[03:48:22] <+BrandonW> I don't understand how people can waste their day playing RTSes.
[03:48:24] <+Nikky> RPG is way below RTS
[03:48:26] <+Nikky> RPGs suck balls
[03:48:35] <+Nikky> but I agree with BrandonW :)
[03:48:52] < DarkAuron> FPSes are even worse
[03:48:52] < Barrett> I haven't played it since high school, but it is still an awesome game
[03:48:54] < DarkAuron> they're all the same
[03:48:58] < Barrett> I will probably play it during the summer when I have some free time
[03:49:02] < Barrett> unless I finally get a girlfriend
[03:49:09] <+Nikky> I
[03:49:12] <+Nikky> I'm sure you will
[03:49:13] <+Merthsoft> <3 FPS
[03:49:13] <+BrandonW> You vent some anger and frustration with FPSes...there are times I feel like shooting something in the head every 2 seconds.
[03:49:17] <+BrandonW> You have to release that.
[03:49:23] <+Nikky> just find some hot BYU babes
[03:49:25] <+Merthsoft> agreed
[03:49:32] <+Nikky> (There are BYU babes, right?)
[03:49:33] < Barrett> Nikky: they're everywhere
[03:49:44] <+Nikky> But?
[03:49:46] < DarkAuron> BrandonW: I vent my anger and frustration through my dreams by killing my step-dad with a giant thumbtack quite violently, while I sleep.
[03:49:53] < Barrett> You have to be a hot BYU stud to get them
[03:50:03] < DarkAuron> I find that more fulfilling than getting killed by a rabid zombie every 2 minutes
[03:50:04] <+Nikky> and you aren't a hot BYU stud?
[03:50:11] < Barrett> Nikky: apparently not
[03:50:15] < DarkAuron> But that's just me.
[03:51:07] <+BrandonW> That's why you play with cheats on, and just beat the everloving shit out of aliens with crowbars and shoot people in the head.
[03:51:09] <+Merthsoft> god damn i love zombies
[03:51:20] <+BrandonW> And you can scream and get the adrenaline pumping.
[03:51:23] <+BrandonW> Can't do that asleep.
[03:51:24] <+Nikky> BrandonW makes an excellent point
[03:51:39] < i_c-Y> i dont have anger and frustration. 
[03:51:43] < i_c-Y> just kidding.
[03:51:46] <+Nikky> If you did, take it out on kerm
[03:51:48] <+BrandonW> You take it out on us, i_c-Y.
[03:51:51] < i_c-Y> nah
[03:52:01] < i_c-Y> thats just the bits that leak out, BrandonW 
[03:52:01] <+Nikky> You all suck, losers.
[03:52:22] <+BrandonW> Political science loser.
[03:52:22] < i_c-Y> its kinda entertaining though.
[03:52:27] <+BrandonW> How is that a real career anyway?
[03:52:34] < i_c-Y> DarkAuron: my dreams have violence too :)
[03:52:34] <+BrandonW> We know you're not going to run anything.
[03:52:39] <+BrandonW> Or be in charge of anything.
[03:52:40] < i_c-Y> death. and more death. and more death.
[03:52:56] <+Nikky> BrandonW: Political Science is for losers
[03:53:07] <+Merthsoft> indeed
[03:53:12] <+BrandonW> What're you getting your degree in?
[03:53:25] <+Nikky> "Law, Society, and Justice" gosh
[03:53:38] <+Nikky> I'll be a police chief. Or lawyer. Or something.
[03:53:45] < i_c-Y> Nikky will uphold the laws. unlike spitzer.
[03:53:48] <+Nikky> Homeless bum with a PSP.
[03:53:59] <+Nikky> Paterson just admitted to an affair himself!
[03:54:00] <+BrandonW> You? Enforcing laws?
[03:54:10] < Barrett> I have 3 brothers in law school (out of 4).
[03:54:13] < Barrett> well, one just graduated
[03:54:16] < Barrett> I don't know how they do it
[03:54:26] <+Nikky> They must be champs
[03:54:28] < Barrett> I could never sit down and study something for more than 10 minutes
[03:54:37] <+BrandonW> Poor Barrett.
[03:54:48]  * Nikky licks Barrett 
[03:54:54] <+BrandonW> This is why he is the way he is today.
[03:54:56] <+Nikky> Black sheep of the family?
[03:54:57] <+BrandonW> You never studied.
[03:55:21] < Barrett> hmmmm.... maybe that's a good way to describe me
[03:55:25] < Barrett> my dad's a lawyer
[03:55:28] < Barrett> 3 brothers
[03:55:45] < Barrett> the other is the banquet manager or something like that at a ski resort
[03:55:54] < Barrett> (snowbird)
[03:56:04] <+Nikky> The goal is to beat out the banquet manager
[03:56:08] <+BrandonW> Yes.
[03:56:11] <+BrandonW> If you can't do that, you're useless.
[03:56:18] < Barrett> well, he's not doing too bad
[03:56:27] < Barrett> it's not like he's a waiter
[03:57:26] < Barrett> At least I know that if I do absolutely nothing for the next 3 months, I'll still make about $400
[03:57:32] <+Nikky> me too!
[03:57:33] <+BrandonW> I don't care how good it is, "banquet manager" sounds like a disguise for a terrible job.
[03:57:47] < Barrett> BrandonW: I don't think that's the actual title
[03:57:59] <+BrandonW> I'm sure the real title is Waiter or something.
[03:58:02] <+BrandonW> But he likes to tell people that.
[03:58:08] <+BrandonW> To show up his lawyer brothers.
[03:58:21] <+Nikky> BrandonW wishes he was a patent lawyer.
[03:58:31] <+BrandonW> I laugh in the face of patent law.
[03:58:43] < Barrett> oh..... wait.... yes, the title is "Banquet Manager"
[03:58:58] <+BrandonW> At a ski resort, no less.
[03:59:00] < Barrett> unless he's been promoted since mid-2006
[03:59:02] <+BrandonW> Where all the real banquets are...
[03:59:06] < Barrett> well, yes
[03:59:14] < Barrett> businesses do stuff there
[03:59:24] <+BrandonW> Yeah, they goof off there.
[04:02:35] <+BrandonW> Four lawyers, a "banquet manager", and...software developer?
[04:03:36] < Barrett> you left out the 2 girls
[04:03:53] < Barrett> they'll probably marry millionaires
[04:04:16] <+BrandonW> Because they're useless by themselves?
[04:04:25] <+Nikky> girls don't count
[04:04:42] <+BrandonW> So you have 5 siblings?
[04:04:45] < Barrett> well, my oldest sister (younger than me) is too lazy to get a job
[04:04:59] < Barrett> 6
[04:05:02] <+BrandonW> Brady Bunch, or your parents are just busy?
[04:05:04] < Barrett> 4 brothers, 2 sisters
[04:05:18] < Barrett> 7 kids all together
[04:05:53] < Barrett> oh, and we forgot about my mom
[04:05:53] <+BrandonW> Are you related to them all by blood?
[04:05:57] < Barrett> yes
[04:06:15] <+BrandonW> That's a little bit unusual.
[04:06:22] < Barrett> I just found out tonight that she's writing a book
[04:06:36] <+BrandonW> A cookbook?
[04:06:46] < Barrett> something to do with communicating
[04:06:55] <+BrandonW> With your spouse?
[04:07:01] < Barrett> I don't think so
[04:07:11] <+BrandonW> Late 20th century technological innovations?
[04:07:20] < Barrett> she mentioned something about technology
[04:07:33] <+BrandonW> Technology's effect on psychology today?
[04:07:34] < Barrett> but definitely communicating with people.... maybe family members
[04:07:39] < Barrett> possibly
[04:08:27] <+BrandonW> Communicating with your kids in an increasingly technological and socially-isolated world?
[04:08:34] < Barrett> that sounds about right
[04:09:22] <+BrandonW> I win!
[04:09:24] < Barrett> oh, and one of my good friends is going to law school next year
[04:09:26] <+Merthsoft> YOU FAIL
[04:09:38] < Barrett> right now she is in jerusalem
[04:09:46] < Barrett> everyone else is accomplishing so much more than i am
[04:09:58] <+BrandonW> That's what you get for burning out in the DR.
[04:10:06] <+BrandonW> You probably spent 20 mental years there.
[04:10:20] < Barrett> somehow spanish will help my career...... somehow......
[04:10:29] < Randomist> Wow.  My clock has been set an hour behind this whole time.
[04:10:58] < Barrett> if only I were going into that one major.... the one with a name that sounds better than what it actually is
[04:11:04] <+BrandonW> What is it you want to do after college?
[04:11:05] < Barrett> landscape design or something
[04:11:33] < Randomist> No wonder I've felt so damn sleepy all those nights I've stayed up to what I thought was one and two o'clock working on ASM stuff
[04:11:35] < Barrett> software, most likely
[04:11:49] <+BrandonW> What kind of software?
[04:12:11] <+BrandonW> Randomist, leave it. You get more done that way, apparently.
[04:12:24] < Barrett> or maybe I'll figure out how to read tfm and then I could be a sys admin
[04:12:24] <+BrandonW> Whatever you've done to find yourself in this state, don't change it.
[04:12:29] <+BrandonW> You're somewhat useful now.
[04:12:31] <+BrandonW> Don't ruin it.
[04:12:55] < Barrett> my boss was an EE major and right now he is a sys admin
[04:13:02] < Barrett> I'm not entirely sure where he learned all of this stuff
[04:13:05] <+BrandonW> EE sucks.
[04:13:14] < Barrett> but he isn't bad with apache and all of the services that he sets up
[04:14:00] < Barrett> while he was attending the university he worked for the same guy, but as one of the workers who does the chemicals and stuff
[04:14:06] < Barrett> then when he graduated he became the sys admin
[04:14:09] < Barrett> for the same guy
[04:14:28] < Barrett> and he's been doing that for like 5 years... maybe more
[04:14:40] < Barrett> he could be making a lot more money somewhere else
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[04:15:26] <+incubus[> anyone around
[04:15:29] < Barrett> no
[04:15:47] <+BrandonW> Of course!
[04:15:52] <+BrandonW> This is #tcpa! Someone's always around!
[04:16:23] <+incubus[> I got glk'ed in #math
[04:16:55] <+BrandonW> Much data in MATH?
[04:17:03] <+incubus[> yes, COMPLETELY randomly
[04:17:08] <+BrandonW> Directly to you?
[04:17:11] <+incubus[> nah
[04:17:15] <+incubus[> but it was scary
[04:17:18] < i_c-Y> heh
[04:17:22] <+BrandonW> So it's not just us he spams.
[04:17:28] < Barrett> anyway, BrandonW, ideally I would learn how to do anything and everything common to a webserver before I graduate, then I'd like to do something with that somewhere
[04:17:35] < Barrett> if that doesn't work out, programming
[04:17:45] <+BrandonW> Get out of programming now.
[04:17:49] <+incubus[> I agree
[04:17:50] <+BrandonW> There's always a sysadmin job.
[04:17:59] <+incubus[> be an EE :D
[04:18:08] <+BrandonW> If you don't love programming, live it, breathe it, get out and don't stress yourself unnecessarily.
[04:18:15] < Barrett> I can't figure out which major would go with being a sys admin, though
[04:18:22] < i_c-Y> anything
[04:18:25] <+BrandonW> I think being a sysadmin is piss easy.
[04:18:26] <+incubus[> ITT Tech
[04:18:30] < i_c-Y> you just have to take a bunch of retarded exams
[04:18:32] < i_c-Y> besides
[04:18:35] < i_c-Y> you ? as a sysadmin?
[04:18:38] <+incubus[> LOL
[04:18:39] < Barrett> those networking certification classes?
[04:18:41] < i_c-Y> all youd do is come into #tcpa
[04:18:43] < i_c-Y> and be like
[04:18:47] <+incubus[> "I got root"
[04:18:49] < Barrett> i_c-Y: and?
[04:18:56] < Barrett> :)
[04:19:17] < Barrett> I think I've come in here 2 or 3 times for my current job
[04:19:20] < i_c-Y> LINUX SUX ICY BRANDONW I DONT KNOW HOW TO (insert something on page 38 of manual ) IN (app that comes almost completely preconfigured on distro)
[04:19:37] <+incubus[> i_c-Y, I don't know this guy, but geeze that means
[04:19:58] <+BrandonW> You asked us questions on how to do your current job?
[04:20:13] < Barrett> BrandonW: they weren't things that were expected of me to know
[04:20:20] < Randomist> i_c-Y++
[04:20:20] < Barrett> and in fact I think they were things that even my boss was lost on
[04:20:26] < i_c-Y> like how to breathe?
[04:20:33] < i_c-Y> or how to rtfm?
[04:20:46] <+incubus[> Barrett, how old are you?
[04:20:49] < Barrett> 22
[04:20:57] <+incubus[> you didn't start programming till what age?
[04:21:04] < Barrett> 14 or so
[04:21:08] < Barrett> 13
[04:21:14] <+incubus[> so then you've programmed a ton?
[04:21:21] < Barrett> quite a bit
[04:21:30] <+incubus[> not sure why BrandonW would say that then
[04:21:57] < Barrett> well, there are certain aspects of programming that I like
[04:22:00] < Barrett> others that I don't like
[04:22:08] < Barrett> which would explain all of my unfinished projects
[04:22:13] < Barrett> (nitty gritty pisses me off)
[04:22:23] <+BrandonW> Not sure why I'd say what?
[04:22:24] < Barrett> which is why starcraft 68k was never finished
[04:22:31] < Barrett> I think he's referring to you telling me to stop programming
[04:22:37] <+incubus[> yes
[04:22:39] <+BrandonW> I have no idea what you feel about programming.
[04:22:49] <+BrandonW> But if your preference is admin stuff, focus on that.
[04:27:14] < Barrett> from what I can tell, CS is the closest thing to admin stuff
[04:27:41] < i_c-Y> not true.
[04:27:48] < i_c-Y> there are sys admin degrees out there
[04:27:58] < i_c-Y> RIT and places have a bunch of em.
[04:28:01] < Barrett> at my university
[04:28:24] <+BrandonW> CS was the farthest thing from sysadmin stuff where I went.
[04:28:30] <+BrandonW> There was IS, IT, and CS.
[04:28:41] <+BrandonW> If you weren't a hardcore programmer, you didn't need to be in CS.
[04:28:55] < Barrett> I was very very lucky to be accepted to BYU, so I'd be an idiot to transfer anywhere else
[04:29:46] < Barrett> (the average acceptance GPA is 3.7ish (UNweighted).... I had a 2.9 in high school)
[04:30:15] < i_c-Y> besides, you can program in other majors anyway.
[04:30:17] <+BrandonW> I had 3.7 in high school.
[04:30:46] < Barrett> I found a chart somewhere with the GPAs and the percentage of people who get accepted on average each year.... the chart stopped at 3.2, where it was like 1%
[04:31:11] <+BrandonW> Why DID they take you?
[04:31:30] < Barrett> either my essays were amazing, or my ACT
[04:31:40] < Barrett> (30)
[04:33:07] < Barrett> I also probably mentioned winning the TI app dev contest in the awards/recognitions section
[04:33:25] < Barrett> and may have inserted the word 'national' or 'international'
[04:34:30] <+BrandonW> msd8x is probably why I have my current job.
[04:34:53] <+BrandonW> My boss said they went "omg driverz" and didn't immediately put my resume in the trash.
[04:35:22] <+BrandonW> In not so many words, but yeah.
[04:35:44] < Barrett> haha
[04:37:35] < Barrett> if I am ever in charge of hiring someone, I will try to hire people who are as smart as you
[04:37:56] < Barrett> and icy, for sure
[04:38:02] <+BrandonW> I'm going to take that as a compliment.
[04:38:53] < Barrett> and as cool
[04:38:55] < Barrett> and talented
[04:38:56] < Barrett> and amazing
[04:39:19] < Barrett> what ever happened to pad??
[04:39:23] < Barrett> !seen patrickd
[04:39:23] <+BrandonW> He's here.
[04:39:24] <@efneTI86> Barrett, patrickd is right here!
[04:39:29] <+BrandonW> He came back last night.
[04:39:33] < Barrett> didn't see that
[04:39:35] < Barrett> where was he?
[04:39:54] <+BrandonW> He said he joined a religious cult that wouldn't let him talk to us or about calculators.
[04:40:04] < Barrett> heh
[04:40:04] <+BrandonW> But he left Scientology so it's okay.
[04:40:08] < Barrett> haha
[04:40:28] <+BrandonW> That's Nikky's joke, I stole it, but oh well.
[04:41:22] < Barrett> that would be my dream team for whatever I decide to do... if I owned my own business
[04:41:29] < Barrett> BrandonW, i_c-Y, Nikky, and PatrickD
[04:41:33] < Barrett> am I missing anyone?
[04:41:41] <+BrandonW> Dan_E, of course!
[04:41:56] <+BrandonW> He's just implied.
[04:42:04] < Barrett> oh, and glk, in case we ever need any data
[04:42:09]  * Randomist sees bcall(_ZeroOP1).
[04:42:13]  * Randomist slaps himself.
[04:42:20] <+BrandonW> Why, what'd you mean to do?
[04:42:27] <+BrandonW> ZeroToOP1?
[04:43:04] <+BrandonW> It still freaks me out that you're doing assembly.
[04:43:17] < Randomist> No, I meant to do it, 'cept I was doing it manually with ldir.
[04:43:24] <+BrandonW> The only explanation I can offer is that your constant distro switching and language learning has prepared you for it.
[04:44:01] <+BrandonW> You have some sort of superpower that allows you to pick up a language like that.
[04:44:23] <+BrandonW> You breezed by them all, so now you can take on anything.
[04:44:41] < Barrett> Nikky is on my dream team because we need a hot receptionist (in case anyone was curious).
[04:44:50] <+BrandonW> Or maybe you're just forever doomed to learn a language long enough to write one program and then forget it.
[04:45:09] <+BrandonW> For a girl, Nikky is probably the most attractive of all of us.
[04:45:15] < DarkAuron> I think I caught on assembly alright when I gave it a try.
[04:45:16] <+BrandonW> I'm man enough to admit it.
[04:45:50] <+BrandonW> Why'd you stop? Just nothing to do?
[04:45:59] < DarkAuron> school and issues at home
[04:46:03] < Randomist> The only reason I'm probably getting it so "fast" is because I'm using all my availible free time to work with it.
[04:46:07] < Barrett> anyone know what pad is doing these days?
[04:46:08] < DarkAuron> and I got bored
[04:46:27] <+BrandonW> Trying to stay healthy.
[04:46:37] <+BrandonW> He's pretty vague on the details.
[04:46:57] < Randomist> Which is about nine hours a day on a school day, and fourteen hours a day on weekends and off days.
[04:47:19] < Randomist> I have no life. :-P
[04:47:33] <+BrandonW> If you did, you'd have no place here.
[04:49:04] <+BrandonW> I work, I sleep, I eat, and I do calculator stuff.
[04:50:11] < Randomist> Change work to school, and put artwork in there somewhere, and you have me.
[04:50:28] < i_c-Y> my life consists of me being awesome. thats about all i do.
[04:50:33] < i_c-Y> bblsleep
[04:50:42] <+BrandonW> Of course, me too.
[04:51:32] <+BrandonW> Unbelievable how much spam I get.
[04:51:46] <+BrandonW> And yet I still only use 3% of Gmail.
[04:54:15]  * Randomist is surprised to only be getting one spam mail a week since he's ever used GMail.
[04:54:26] < Randomist> My Yahoo! account gets like fifteen a week.
[04:54:51] <+BrandonW> I'm getting it because I'm checking another account with it.
[04:54:59] <+BrandonW> And that account's inbox gets filled up within a week.
[04:56:13] < Randomist> How big is it?
[04:56:24] <+BrandonW> Don't know.
[04:56:37] <+BrandonW> It's POP3.
[04:57:17] <+BrandonW> Star Trek Voyager on Spike TV!
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[04:57:26] <+BrandonW> That's what the guide says, but it's still CSI or something...
[04:58:07] <+BrandonW> I hate CSI.
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[05:00:17] <+BrandonW> Oh, yeah, I'm boycotting the Nspire and Nspire CAS.
[05:00:22] <+BrandonW> As we all should.
[05:00:24] <+BrandonW> Tell your friends...
[05:00:30] <+BrandonW> Avoid anything with "Nspire" in it.
[05:00:31] <+Nikky> ok
[05:00:36] <+Nikky> my friends don't buy calculators
[05:00:47] <+BrandonW> Your friends suck. Dump them and get new ones.
[05:00:52] <+BrandonW> Especially ones that don't buy Nspires.
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[05:01:03] <+Nikky> Done.
[05:01:07] <+BrandonW> Wait, what am I saying, you don't have friensd.
[05:01:09] <+BrandonW> friends.*
[05:01:39] <+BrandonW> Except us.
[05:01:47] <+BrandonW> And we all hate you, but it's as close as you'll ever get.
[05:02:50] <+BrandonW> That "Done." gets to me, because it's just like on the calculator...
[05:02:53] <+BrandonW> How depressing is that?
[05:02:57] <+BrandonW> Say something else!
[05:02:58] < Randomist> BrandonW:  Somethin' like this was what you were talin' bout in #tiasm?  http://www.radicalsoft.org/michael/copyram.z80
[05:03:22] <+BrandonW> By just glancing at it, I'd say so.
[05:03:29] <+BrandonW> But you need the arrows, otherwise it's just not cool.
[05:03:33] <+BrandonW> It's just a couple of extra PutC's.
[05:04:41] <+BrandonW> What program is this?
[05:04:55] <+Sir_Lewk> so, I just finished reading "Jennifer Government"
[05:04:59] <+BrandonW> Why does he have a program that takes a program and copies its contents to appData?
[05:05:05] <+BrandonW> I'm sorry, Sir_Lewk.
[05:05:15] <+Sir_Lewk> it was pretty good
[05:05:28]  * Randomist goes up a directory and digs around.
[05:06:02] <+BrandonW> http://www.radicalsoft.org/michael/testguard.txt Bastard...he documented this 5 years ago.
[05:06:29] <+BrandonW> Actually, that'd naturally have nothing about the 2.40 link packets.
[05:08:10] <+BrandonW> http://www.radicalsoft.org/michael/DuckOS/duckos.z80 AH!
[05:08:18] <+BrandonW> So now we know...Michael's dev key was EF04.
[05:09:04]  * Randomist reads something about RAM pages and tennis rackets.
[05:09:17] <+BrandonW> Yeah, his paging analogies.
[05:11:10] <+Sir_Lewk> BrandonW, did you not like "Jennifer Government" or were you disgruntled at me interrupting you?
[05:11:27] <+BrandonW> It was just random trolling. I'd seen the words "Jennifer Government" before, that's all I know.
[05:11:35] <+Sir_Lewk> oh
[05:11:55] <+ports> BrandonW, how do they make ZPM's?
[05:12:10] <+BrandonW> No one knows.
[05:12:22] <+chronomex> what's a ZPM ?
[05:12:23] <+Sir_Lewk> it's kind of like 1984 except it's cautioning against libertarianism and rampant capitalism
[05:12:27] <+BrandonW> They create a pocket universe contained within it and extract energy from it.
[05:12:31] <+BrandonW> Zero Point Module.
[05:12:43] <+Sir_Lewk> the left wing to "1984"'s right wing
[05:12:45] <+BrandonW> They extract energy until it reaches maximum entropy.
[05:12:45] <+ports> i saw some post that said an almost ascended ancient could make it
[05:13:09] <+chronomex> I don't know who to believe
[05:13:09] <+BrandonW> We don't know how they're made, but the Ancients obviously did it, and the Asurans did it.
[05:13:14] <+chronomex> you all sound sarcastic
[05:13:43] <+ports> asurans = replicators?
[05:15:46] <+BrandonW> The original ones, yes.
[05:16:04] <+BrandonW> However it's done, it must be really hard and rare.
[05:16:12] <+BrandonW> Even the Ancients only had a handful.
[05:16:21] <+BrandonW> And hid them on some worlds.
[05:17:19] <+BrandonW> There's an episode called Trinity I think that shows an abandoned Ancient experiment where they tried to extract energy from our own universe to create a really powerful weapon to help a planet combat the Wraith.
[05:17:46] <+BrandonW> And McKay thinks he can finish it...which of course he doesn't, and blows up 3/4 of the solar system.
[05:18:55] <+BrandonW> Or 5/8, he would say.
[05:19:12] <+BrandonW> I'm going to lay down in shame for still having this knowledge so fresh in my mind.
[05:20:23] <+Nikky> Done.
[05:21:03] <+BrandonW> :(
[05:21:11] <+BrandonW> I knew you were saving that.
[05:21:14] <+BrandonW> Jerk.
[05:21:25] <+Nikky> I actually fell asleep.
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[05:21:37] <+Nikky> owned
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[05:22:25] <+Nikky> autoop
[05:22:59]  * Randomist yawns and tries to stay awake long enough.
[05:23:48] <+chronomex> mmmm
[05:23:51] <+chronomex> <3 pasta
[05:23:59] <+chronomex> yes, pasta made of hearts
[05:25:00]  * Randomist pulls a heart out of chronomex's pasta.
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[05:25:06] < Randomist> "U R DA BOMB?"
[05:27:02]  * Randomist pulls out another one that reads, "U ROX MY WORLD."
[05:27:13] <+chronomex> no, not those hearts
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[05:32:19] <+Nikky> owneed
[05:32:27] < Randomist> Again.
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[05:32:33] <+Nikky> autoop
[05:33:08] <+chronomex> owneed?
[05:33:18] <+Nikky> shush
[05:33:31] <+chronomex> okay
[05:33:49] < DarkAuron> owneed
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[05:40:25]  * Randomist chants to himself while working, "No more sleep... no more sleep..."
[05:40:39] <+chronomex> what're you working on?
[05:40:42] <+chronomex> don't you have finals?
[05:41:21] < Randomist> Nope.
[05:41:41] <+chronomex> lame
[05:42:16] <+Nikky> haha
[05:42:46] < Randomist> I only got finals for like... one... two... three classes.
[05:42:54] < Randomist> * when I do have them.
[05:43:05] <+chronomex> I only got like two or three classes
[05:43:23] <+chronomex> and they all SUCK
[05:44:33] < Randomist> I got five... well four, 'cause I got one twice -- Ag -- and they're 'zZzZzZ' boring.
[05:44:51] < Randomist> 'Cept in English duing class discussions.
[05:45:04] <+chronomex> Ag?
[05:45:36] < Randomist> Agriculture Science.
[05:46:12] <+chronomex> ah
[05:47:14] < Randomist> Everyone either gets in the class 'cause you don't do nothing but ride around on the bus and look at animals, or stay in and watch Creative Educational Videos.
[05:47:45] < Randomist> Or they get thown in like I did 'cause some class ran out of room, or there's nothing else to take.
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[06:10:50] <+bsparks> Blister on the back of your heel is OWWWW
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[06:13:34] <+chronomex> ooh, botwar
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[06:15:21] < Michael_V> I am Abraham Lincoln!
[06:15:25] < Michael_V> We must preserve the union!
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[06:15:30] <+chronomex> Yes.
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[06:15:56] <+chronomex> We must stop this war!
[06:17:35] <+chronomex> We have two casualties!
[06:18:09] < Spengo> Michael_V, never! states rights!
[06:19:02] <+Michael_V> t-states!
[06:19:46]  * Spengo loads his springfield
[06:19:52] < Spengo> it's headshot time!
[06:22:27] < Spengo> => sleeps
[06:22:58]  * Michael_V slaps Spengo around with a large musket
[06:23:20]  * Michael_V resumes writing his Lincoln essay in which he argues against virtually all of the Lincoln historians out there.
[06:23:24] <+Michael_V> I'm either a genius or a lunatic.
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[06:24:23] <+bsparks> what does one do about a blister on the back of their heels?
[06:26:19] <+chronomex> get better shoes
[06:27:08] <+chronomex> that's what I'd do at least
[06:27:35] <+bsparks> my sock had a hole in it >.>
[06:28:02] <+chronomex> socks too
[06:28:09] <+bsparks> yeah
[06:29:25] <+bsparks> so... I found a ~3 year old game of mine
[06:29:30] <+bsparks> that I had forgotten about
[06:30:01] <+bsparks> and then, I found secrets I forgotten about
[06:54:09] <+ports> bandaid it
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[09:44:14] <@efneTI86> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[10:11:53] < nicolas> "morning" peeps
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[10:32:28] < DarkAuron> omfg :D
[10:32:32] < DarkAuron> I just watched Crank, hadn't seen it before
[10:32:37] < DarkAuron> epic!
[10:35:09] < asmand> I should order stuff from the US now
[10:35:18] < asmand> USD->EUR 0.632587
[10:35:34] < DarkAuron> heh...
[10:35:57] < E-J> asmand: you should travel to us
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[10:36:01] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!!
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[10:36:10] < asmand> almost like canadian dollars
[10:36:30] < E-J> 1 EUR = 1.5689500000 CAD
[10:36:44] < E-J> even better, cad is stronger than usd
[10:36:57] < E-J> 1 EUR = 1.5770500000 USD
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[11:08:50] < al_b> the Australian dollar has almost reached parity with the USD
[11:09:01] < al_b> I remember when we were worth 50 US cents a few years back
[11:10:24] <+BrandonW> Australia is still worth about 50 US cents.
[11:10:56] < al_b> 	
[11:10:57] < al_b> 1 Australian dollar = 0.9421 U.S. dollars
[11:12:59] < al_b> http://alpage.ath.cx/exchangerate.gif
[11:15:04] < al_b> I was reading an artical that stated that the US is no longer the world's largest economy, the EU has taken over
[11:18:37] < nicolas> the canadian dollar is woth more than the us dollar... nuff siad
[11:18:40] < nicolas> said*
[11:20:28] < al_b> BrandonW is in denial :)
[11:21:05] < al_b> I wonder when people will talk about the price for everything in euros
[11:22:25] <+BrandonW> When hell freezes over.
[11:26:52] < al_b> it'll be interesting to see how this recession turns out
[11:27:19] < al_b> luckily the AU economy is mainly fueled by the asian resources boom, so AU shouldn't get too hurt
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[11:28:48] < al_zzzzz> http://xkcd.com/325/
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[11:39:37] < DarkAuron> lol
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[11:49:34] <@efneTI86> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[13:35:14] < asmand> E-J: do you have that tankero rule link still?
[13:36:47] < E-J> let me grep
[13:37:16] < E-J> asmand: http://www.pelulamu.net/tankero/
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[13:42:22] < asmand> E-J: thanks
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[13:44:31] <@efneTI86> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[14:06:40] <+bsparks> mornin
[14:07:46] < nicolas> good afternoon
[14:13:17] < Andy_J> generic time of day
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[14:25:39] < Barrett> did DS get accepted again?
[14:26:18] < i_c-Y> hm?
[14:26:24] < i_c-Y> for SoC?
[14:26:46] < i_c-Y> i dont think so.
[14:27:52] < Barrett> do you know if they tried to be?
[14:29:16] < Barrett> heh, well... considering that the last news article on the website is SoC of _last_ year...
[14:30:15] < i_c-Y> you could check the SoC mentoring list.
[14:30:36] < i_c-Y> http://code.google.com/soc/2008/
[14:30:43] < Barrett> it doesn't appear that they're on it, though maybe they're under a different name
[14:30:50] < i_c-Y> doesnt look like they applied.
[14:35:28] <@Andy_J> Barrett: welcome to yesterday
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[14:38:32] < i_c-Y> Barrett: welcome to hell!
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[14:39:09] < Barrett> Andy_J: I get all of my news from slashdot, so 1 day late isn't so bad
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[14:41:55] <+patz2009> i_c-Y: So I herd hell has fine dining?
[14:42:31] < i_c-Y> its true
[14:43:09] <+patz2009> No wonder whole armies want to dine there.
[14:43:15] <@Andy_J> lmao, we were just talking about Hell, MI in #scorehero
[14:43:36] <+patz2009> Does it have fine dining?
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[14:56:23] < i_c-Y> why does patz2009 leave tcpa
[15:01:00] < mokomull> some clients PART all before quitting.
[15:03:56] < i_c-Y> except he was on for a while afterward.
[15:04:02] < i_c-Y> heck, still is on.
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[15:05:38] <+bsparks> I feel, really, dumb
[15:06:12] < boxknife> come on, putting an unnecessary comma in your sentences isn't that bad
[15:06:27] < boxknife> ;)
[15:06:29] <+bsparks> I have a 3 year old program I wrote, using lbl/goto, and I can't seem to be able to make it work otherwise...
[15:06:54] < boxknife> in Ti basic? What's wrong with it?
[15:07:35] <+bsparks> I can't have it like this! I haven't used a lbl/goto in... well, since I wrote this program :)
[15:08:01] < Barrett> for the first time ever in my entire life... a class was cancelled!
[15:11:01] < mokomull> bsparks: What the hell else do you propose?
[15:12:03] <+bsparks> mokomull??
[15:14:37] < mokomull> instead of Lbl/Goto
[15:14:42] <+bsparks> 6h
[15:14:46] <+bsparks> err
[15:14:47] < mokomull> 6h?
[15:14:50] <+bsparks> *oh
[15:14:55] < mokomull> numlock?
[15:14:57] <+bsparks> had numlock on
[15:15:28] <+bsparks> idk, I can make games without lbl and goto :) very easily in fact... just not this one it seems :(
[15:15:33] < mokomull> acpi
[15:15:36] <+bsparks> ?
[15:15:44] < mokomull> wrong window
[15:19:02] <+bsparks> by the way
[15:19:16] <+bsparks> metroid in asm for the 83 is super
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[15:23:00] <@efneTI86> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[15:25:43] <@efneTI86> [Netham46] wewt
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[15:26:46] < E-J> bsparks: it's good to know that you can make games without those, cause with real languages you can't use them
[15:27:06] <@Andy_J> yes, you can
[15:27:14] <+bsparks> that, and this game leaks mem like crazy ><;
[15:27:23] <@Andy_J> C still has goto
[15:27:33] <@Andy_J> Java, you can abuse labeled breaks and continues to get the same effect
[15:28:04] < E-J> Andy_J: but it's not "good programming" :)
[15:28:12] <@Andy_J> That isn't the point :)
[15:28:22] <@Andy_J> ON ERROR RESUME NEXT bitches
[15:28:23] < i_c-Y> it works though, and sometimes provides the fastest way to do something.
[15:29:09] <@Andy_J> though I sometimes wish I could do something to that effect in finally{} blocks
[15:29:24] < E-J> was it something like goto breaks plaa plaa plaa and code isn't so nice to read
[15:29:26] <@Andy_J> or catch blocks
[15:29:50] <@Andy_J> inb4 goto considered harmful
[15:30:11] < E-J> inb4?
[15:30:11] <@Andy_J> lrn2 goto considered harmful considered hanrrmful
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[15:53:36] <@Andy_J> yay, found a program that let me remap the stupid enter key to be an option key
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[15:53:48] < i_c-Y> on
[15:53:54] <@Andy_J> my macbook
[15:54:09] <@Andy_J> it's a kernel extenstion, and it didn't need a reboot :o
[15:54:13] < i_c-Y> you guys dont have xkbdmap?
[15:54:26] <@Andy_J> we don't use X
[15:54:32] < i_c-Y> or xmodmap
[15:54:33] < i_c-Y> oh.
[15:54:38] < i_c-Y> suckers.
[15:54:49] <@Andy_J> there is an X server but only ported progams use it
[15:55:09] < i_c-Y> thats becuase macs suck. :)
[15:55:22] <@Andy_J> not as much as x11 sucks :)
[15:55:45] < i_c-Y> YEAH WELL IN UBUNTU X11 MAKES WINDOWS BEND N SHIT DAWG SUPERIOR LINUX
[15:56:37] < i_c-Y> or something.
[15:56:46] < i_c-Y> i needed to make a reference to ubuntu and how i hate it.
[15:56:53] < i_c-Y> cause i havent done that in a few days.
[15:59:17] < nicolas> why do  you hate ubuntu
[15:59:38] <@Andy_J> 'look at me i'm cool i'm using leenucks'
[16:00:22] < nicolas> heh
[16:00:38] < nicolas> sounds like just about any linux distro really
[16:00:55] < nicolas> it's just a matter of how you you complete the sentence
[16:01:41] < i_c-Y> nicolas: "why do you hate" ? 
[16:01:50] < i_c-Y> if you havent noticed, pretty much all i do is hate.
[16:02:04] < nicolas> oh noes.... you hate me too ? *sniff*
[16:02:22] <@Andy_J> I understand the point of making it easy to use, but ubuntu takes it ridiculously far
[16:02:37] < i_c-Y> its a retarded installer too.
[16:02:44] < i_c-Y> ie. CHAINLOAD FUCKIN WINDOWS!
[16:02:48] <@Andy_J> hmm, is 2008.0 out yet?
[16:03:13] < nicolas> Andy_J: I must admit some things are exagerated, but you gotta admit, for those who might just want to try linux, it's hard to beat
[16:03:39] < i_c-Y> no, 2007.0 is still there.
[16:03:50] < i_c-Y> nicolas: then they should go use knoppix or something
[16:03:55] < i_c-Y> or slackware
[16:03:59] < i_c-Y> because slackware is superior.
[16:04:16] < i_c-Y> though i suppose if those people started using it, it might drain the superiority...
[16:04:26] < i_c-Y> so i guess we can stick em in straight debian land.
[16:04:30] < nicolas> I haven't used slackware in ... aaaaages
[16:04:31] < i_c-Y> or slax.
[16:04:44] < i_c-Y> my other OS on this is Slamd64
[16:05:31] < i_c-Y> and my other other OS is your mother. 
[16:05:32] < nicolas> bah, I use solaris on the "server" at home, as I need ZFS :D
[16:07:36] < nicolas> my mother, hmm I wouldn't recommend that, she's can't use a computer to save herlife
[16:08:28] < i_c-Y> haha.
[16:08:56] < nicolas> !k I still have to kcik you for the offensive remark!
[16:09:00] < nicolas> err
[16:09:05] < i_c-Y> actually, im not sure most of the ubuntu crowd has heard of X11
[16:09:06] < i_c-Y> :(
[16:09:15] < nicolas> !k i_c-Y I still have to kcik you for the offensive remark!
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[16:09:21] < nicolas> there we go :P
[16:09:42] < nicolas> some might have
[16:09:46] < i_c-Y> lies.
[16:10:01] < i_c-Y> hm. i cant kick you :(
[16:10:19] < nicolas> you can try?
[16:10:28] < i_c-Y> it will say haha nice try or something.
[16:10:34] < i_c-Y> cause you're an operator. i can sense it.
[16:10:45] < nicolas> but i'll use my leet ninja skills to dodge em :D
[16:11:08] < i_c-Y> and by leet ninja skills you mean have efneTI86 take the job for you.
[16:11:59] < nicolas> more or less
[16:12:22] < nicolas> I could take matters in my own hands too :)
[16:12:33] < i_c-Y> oh wow. omnimaga still hasn't come back. 
[16:12:53]  * Andy_J stays out of this one
[16:12:55] < i_c-Y> im not quite sure how i destroyed it, but im proud i did.
[16:12:58] < i_c-Y> hi Andy_J 
[16:13:17] < i_c-Y> Andy_J: why? nicolas seems like a decent fellow.
[16:13:20] <@Andy_J> I think I'm going to try gentoo on my thinkpad again
[16:13:33] < i_c-Y> its not like im going to treat him like netham.
[16:13:47] < i_c-Y> heck im even helping randomist on occasion now.
[16:13:54] < i_c-Y> which thinkpad?
[16:14:07] < E-J> thinkPatrickD
[16:14:08] <@Andy_J> t23
[16:14:15] < nicolas> hah, netham, how's he doing, still being incredibly annoying?
[16:14:21] <@Andy_J> yes
[16:14:23] < nicolas> (I see he's been banned)
[16:14:28] < i_c-Y> yes.
[16:14:31] < nicolas> E-J: hahahaha
[16:14:32] < i_c-Y> no, hes here right now.
[16:14:38] <@Andy_J> I tried kubuntu on it, it's being even stupider with wifi than gentoo was
[16:14:47] < i_c-Y> oh wow. old thinkpad.
[16:15:04] <@Andy_J> hey I can get 4 hours of battery out of it :p
[16:15:16] <@Andy_J> plus it has a serial port
[16:15:35] <@Andy_J> and floppy drive module, whatever that is ;)
[16:15:45] < i_c-Y> too bad it doesnt have a touchpad.
[16:15:57] <@Andy_J> I never liked IBM's touchpads
[16:16:05] <@Andy_J> THey just feel _wrong_.
[16:16:12] < nicolas> yeah, they sucks
[16:16:32] < nicolas> guess they got the nipple nice working well and focused on that
[16:16:36]  * Andy_J pokes the touchpad on the ultranave usb keyboard on the computer next to him
[16:16:49] <@Andy_J> it's just too tiny
[16:16:54] <@Andy_J> and the texture is wrong
[16:17:01] <@Andy_J> the tit mouse is awesome though :)
[16:17:03] < i_c-Y> thinkwiki probably has MUCH DATA on the T23 installation of linux.
[16:17:16] <@Andy_J> oh, I've gotten everything working on it in gentoo
[16:17:20] <@Andy_J> kubuntu just epically fails
[16:17:43] < i_c-Y> *buntu should be sent to /dev/null.
[16:17:52] <@Andy_J> yes, it should
[16:18:36] < nicolas> i_c-Y: picking up on what's his face grammar skills ?
[16:18:46] < i_c-Y> ?
[16:18:52] < i_c-Y> glk?
[16:18:55] < nicolas> yeah
[16:19:06] < nicolas> "has much data"
[16:19:07] < i_c-Y> no, im just making a helpful suggestion.
[16:19:20] < i_c-Y> cause thats what i am. kind and helpful.
[16:19:42] < i_c-Y> I am a sincere, intelligent and caring person who loves all people.
[16:19:44] <@Andy_J> I can has much data?
[16:20:04] < nicolas> i_c-Y: but all you do is hate... riiiiiiight
[16:20:41] < i_c-Y> why did i read patD's userlist name as PatrickEOF ?
[16:21:01] < nicolas> Andy_J: you can haz much slapz across face wiv big troutz
[16:21:20] < i_c-Y> id troutslap him but i dont have mirc
[16:22:10] < nicolas> use that spair old intellimouse as a nun-chuck instead :D
[16:23:01] < nicolas> spare*
[16:23:23] < nicolas> acutally ... wonder where my nunchaku is ... haven't seen it in a while
[16:33:18] <@Andy_J>     foreach ({"easy", "medium", "hard", "expert"} as $diff) {
[16:33:23] <@Andy_J> you can do that, right? (php)
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[16:53:33] < Barrett> how far away is Harvard from MIT?
[16:53:59] < Barrett> I just found out that they are in the same city
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[16:57:00] < Barrett> wow... I had no idea they were that close
[16:57:03] < Barrett> less than 2 miles
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[16:57:10] <@efneTI86> [Tyler2] I speak fluent dialup.
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[16:57:22] < nicolas> yeah, they're close, studentfrom one always try and outprank students from the other
[16:57:43] < Barrett> nerds
[16:58:05] < Barrett> what kind of pranks can harvard students pull against tech-savvy kids?
[16:58:10] < Barrett> there's no way it's even close to being even
[16:58:24] < Barrett> "I'll out-law you!"
[16:58:34] <@Andy_J> That's what you think.
[17:00:10] < nicolas> it's actually a pretty fair fight
[17:05:05] < i_c-Y> Barrett: theres more to harvard than harvard law
[17:05:12] < Barrett> I'm aware of that
[17:05:22] < Barrett> but that's what it's most known for
[17:05:30] < i_c-Y> both schools have excellent math programs for example.
[17:07:58] <+Nikky> lawyers would win
[17:08:00] <+Nikky> every time
[17:08:05] <+Nikky> game over
[17:09:24] < nicolas> hehe
[17:09:58] <@Andy_J> OBJECTION!
[17:13:10] < nicolas> you're not as hot, but you're reminding me of Legally Blonde
[17:13:11] < nicolas> hahaha
[17:14:31] < Barrett> close call! they changed the packaging for thin-mints, and even the cookies are shaped differently now
[17:14:38] < Barrett> luckily they still taste amazing
[17:15:07] < Barrett> I don't know how my mom keeps coming up with these things
[17:15:25] < Barrett> aren't they a once-per-year kind of deal?
[17:15:59] < i_c-Y> thin mints?
[17:16:08] < i_c-Y> no.
[17:17:05] < i_c-Y> they come around a few times a year here
[17:17:13] < i_c-Y> plus more times as booths at like wawa and stuff
[17:17:33] < i_c-Y> your mom may have also stocked up on em
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[17:18:39] < i_c-Y> well if it isnt randomist.
[17:18:50] < i_c-Y> we were just talking about you.
[17:19:21] < Randomist> Is that good or bad?
[17:19:42] < Barrett> very bad
[17:20:27] < nicolas> Barrett: they're a once a year deal around here in italy ... but that's cause we're far from the states, too big an investment to send all em girl scout cookie over
[17:20:39] < nicolas> but i'm with you on that one ... thin-mints ... yummy
[17:20:47] < nicolas> and tagalongs
[17:20:57] < nicolas> and most importantly ... Samoas!!!!
[17:22:48] < Randomist> I figured out how to use _ChkFindSym... but on the part of if the file's archived, how would I copy it to RAM instead of _Arc_Unarc?
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[17:27:46] < i_c-Y> patz2009: the betrayer!
[17:28:05] <+patz2009> ?
[17:28:11] < i_c-Y> you were on efnet
[17:28:14] < i_c-Y> yet you were not here!
[17:28:43] <+patz2009> i was playing a game but my client never closed
[17:28:49] < i_c-Y> liar.
[17:28:53] < i_c-Y> your computer cant play games.
[17:29:32] < i_c-Y> dont lie to the #tcpa gestapo
[17:29:42] < i_c-Y> err
[17:29:45] < i_c-Y> did i say gestapo?
[17:29:51] < i_c-Y> i meant the general public with certain agents.
[17:30:06] <+patz2009> it can barely play games... -_-
[17:30:28] <+patz2009> playing Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds... the Star Wars RTS :)
[17:31:39] <+patz2009> why were you stalking me anyway?
[17:32:11] < nicolas> Randomist: there's a bcall to copy chunks of flash to RAM iirc
[17:32:13] < i_c-Y> i dont stalk
[17:32:46] < Randomist> He hunts.
[17:33:23] < nicolas> Randomist: so, just make sure you have a big enough piece of ram to copy it into
[17:33:32] < nicolas> and call that with the pointers correctly!
[17:33:58] < nicolas> of course, I haven't touched 83+ (and the likes) ASM in a loooong time
[17:35:55] < Randomist> _FlashToRAM?
[17:37:58] <@Andy_J> holy shit, time capsule has built-in 6to4 support
[17:38:08] <@Andy_J> time capsule has a boatload of stuff in it
[17:38:13] <@Andy_J> I might actually use it as a router
[17:38:26] <@Andy_J> http://www.apple.com/timecapsule/specs.html
[17:41:05] < nicolas> Andy_J: Airport Extreme had 6to4 as well...
[17:41:15] <@Andy_J> I didn't know that.
[17:41:16] < nicolas> time capsule is just an airport extreme with a hdd builtin
[17:41:22] <@Andy_J> Yeah, I know.
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[17:41:28] <@Andy_J> It's still worth every penny.
[17:41:43] < nicolas> yup, avoid having to hook up an external usb disk
[17:41:54] <@Andy_J> By the time you add up the price of an airport extreme and a 500 GB "server-grade" hard drive
[17:41:55] < nicolas> and it's a good price for the tb disk too
[17:42:09] <@Andy_J> Yeah, but it's cheaper to just hang another 500 off the USB port
[17:42:17] < i_c-Y> by server grade they probably mean its some cheap 500 GB IDE hd they got from overstock.
[17:42:31] <@Andy_J> It says you can use a hub for both a printer and a hard drive... I wonder if you can put multiple hard drives on it
[17:42:45] < nicolas> i_c-Y: hehe, or maybe it's a disk which is "designed" to have a decen MTTF even while being on 24/7
[17:42:49] <@Andy_J> wikipedia claims it's a Hitachi DeskStar
[17:43:08] < i_c-Y> loldeathstar
[17:43:14] < nicolas> hmm.. hitachi deskstar.. then that doesn't sound "server grade"
[17:43:24] < nicolas> simply for the fact it has "desk" in it .. :-/
[17:43:49] < Spengo> that's no hard drive, it's a space station!
[17:43:53] <@Andy_J> probably this drive http://www.bigbruin.com/reviews05/hitachi7k500/index.php?file=1
[17:44:17] <+patz2009> It's way to big to be a space station!
[17:44:17] < Spengo> duun duun duun dun daduun dun daduun
[17:46:06] <@Andy_J> "However, according to Hitachi, the DeskStar is a desktop-grade drive, whereas their UltraStar is server-grade. This has upset some members of the Apple community[3]."
[17:46:26] <+patz2009> http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bz9yMZPAz2s
[17:46:55] < nicolas> Andy_J: I would be upset too! >:[
[17:47:30] < i_c-Y> but nicolas has enough good taste not to buy a mac product :)
[17:47:41] <+Nikky> Most of us do
[17:47:47] < nicolas> acutally...
[17:47:58] < nicolas> actually...*
[17:48:03]  * Randomist shouts happily.
[17:48:04] < nicolas> I have a MacBook Pro :P
[17:48:14] < i_c-Y> you whore.
[17:48:28] < i_c-Y> Randomist: o.0
[17:48:31] < nicolas> and an Airport Extreme... got that from the states, well worth it with the EUR -> USD conversion :P
[17:48:46] < i_c-Y> har har. damn you european mafia type people >:(
[17:48:53] < i_c-Y> you and your communist "EU"
[17:49:00] < nicolas> it does have annoying limitations in configuration
[17:49:16] <+Nikky> Remind them who has aircraft carriers, i_c-Y 
[17:49:25]  * Randomist is is now a few more hours to one or two more days away from having Captioneer finished.
[17:49:26] < i_c-Y> we do!
[17:49:27] < i_c-Y> :)
[17:49:41] < nicolas> shame I can't use 802.11n at 5GHz :-/ get well nice speed with that
[17:49:42] <+Nikky> And if they piss us off, we won't help Europe when Russia invades.
[17:49:59] < nicolas> well, *I* can.. but then i'd have to cut off my sister and my mom from the internetz
[17:50:01] <@Andy_J> I don't see why everyone says that 10.5.2 enabled backing up over a network
[17:50:10] <@Andy_J> I was doing it the first night I had 10.5 the day it was released
[17:50:22] < nicolas> Andy_J: they enabled it in time machine
[17:50:24] < nicolas> no?
[17:50:28] < nicolas> which it didn't do before
[17:50:44] <@Andy_J> Time Machine supported backing up to other 10.5 boxes with AFP on the original 10.5.0 discs
[17:50:49] <@Andy_J> No hacking required.
[17:50:58] <@Andy_J> I did it the first night.
[17:50:59] < nicolas> ah
[17:51:04] < nicolas> dunno, never used time machine
[17:51:11] < nicolas> waste of my hdd time
[17:51:14] <@Andy_J> Everyone seems to think it was not possible.
[17:51:28] < i_c-Y> is time machine just a rsync frontend?
[17:51:34] < nicolas> no
[17:51:35] <@Andy_J> It is not rsync at all
[17:51:46] <@Andy_J> It uses fseventsd and hard links and other fancy stuff
[17:51:47] < nicolas> actually I don't like time machine and it's symlinks
[17:51:58] <@Andy_J> They had to add directory hardlink support to hfs+
[17:52:05] <@Andy_J> Time Machine doesn't use any symlinks.
[17:52:05] < nicolas> or hardlinks
[17:52:16] < nicolas> whatever it uses
[17:52:24] < nicolas> it's only granular at the file level
[17:52:33] <@Andy_J> The only downside to doing it that way is you can't do differential backups of large files
[17:52:36] <@Andy_J> Yeah.
[17:52:38] < nicolas> exactly
[17:52:47] < nicolas> windows does that with it's shadowcopy
[17:52:54] < nicolas> I want time machine to do it too :D
[17:53:00] < nicolas> then maybe i'll use it
[17:53:05] <+patz2009> Use the force, nicolas!
[17:53:12] <@Andy_J> It's only an issue if you run VMs or Entourage
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[17:53:54] <@Andy_J> I'm going to start doing full-system backups
[17:54:05] < nicolas> actually
[17:54:05] <@Andy_J> since 500 >>> 120 + 80
[17:54:08] < nicolas> I want ....
[17:54:11] < nicolas> ZFS
[17:54:13] <@Andy_J> and that 120 is really only 100 since 20 is for xp
[17:54:25] < nicolas> building time machine over that would beat everything
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[17:54:59] <+patz2009> I wish I had a 500GB hard drive for my computer.
[17:55:12] <+patz2009> Instead, I'm stuck with only 1/25th of that.
[17:55:39] < nicolas> NAME      SIZE   USED  AVAIL    CAP  HEALTH  ALTROOT
[17:55:39] < nicolas> data     1.36T   309G  1.06T    22%  ONLINE  -
[17:55:55] <+patz2009> :(
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[17:56:09] < nicolas> although , it's acutall 913GB 
[17:56:31] <@Andy_J> Filesystem     Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
[17:56:31] <@Andy_J> /dev/disk1s3   77Gi   73Gi  3.7Gi    96%    /Volumes/Time Machine
[17:56:35] < nicolas> because it's 3 * 500gb in RAIDZ
[17:56:45] < nicolas> data                   913G   206G   707G    23%    /mnt/data
[17:57:07] <+patz2009> Mine is only 20.8GB >.>
[17:57:15] < nicolas> go buy a 500gb
[17:57:19] < nicolas> they're dead cheap
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[17:57:27] <+patz2009> There's a problem with that.
[17:57:28] <+patz2009> "buy"
[17:57:33] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v HQAT] by efneTI81
[17:57:47] <@Andy_J> {504} ajanata@fuery:/Volumes/Time Machine$ ls -ld hawkeye_0017f2f5bf5a.sparsebundle/
[17:57:50] <@Andy_J> drwx------@ 6 ajanata  ajanata  204 Oct 30 01:17 hawkeye_0017f2f5bf5a.sparsebundle/
[17:57:54] < nicolas> patz2009: how's that a problem
[17:58:01] <@Andy_J> See? Backing up over a network, day of release.
[17:58:05] <+patz2009> Because I lack funds and a job.
[17:58:20] < nicolas> patz2009: you can always sell your body ?
[17:58:38] <+patz2009> nicolas: I don't have your standards for myself.
[17:59:18] < nicolas> well, I didn't need to sell my body, I have a job
[17:59:27] < nicolas> I was merely suggesting last resorts
[17:59:37] < nicolas> and ... most of all... ita was a joke!
[18:01:31] < nicolas> but really, 500gb, you can get your hands on that for what .. 80 dollars ?
[18:02:07] < nicolas> work part time as a waiter for 2 nights and you can make that
[18:03:39] <+patz2009> At the age of 17, I'm finding it difficult to get a job ANYWHERE. Nobody responds to my applications.
[18:03:43] <@Andy_J> more like $140 I think
[18:03:50] <@Andy_J> patz2009: that's your problem
[18:03:55] <@Andy_J> YOU keep calling them
[18:04:01] <@Andy_J> You don't wait for them to call you.
[18:04:11] <+patz2009> I do. Believe me.
[18:05:06] <+patz2009> Besides, I'm not going to put money into this computer. I'd be buying into dead technology.
[18:05:20] <+patz2009> This one doesn't even have SATA support.
[18:06:26] < nicolas> Andy_J: my bad, it's aroun 80 eur here... thought it'd be 80 bux over there
[18:07:00] <+patz2009> 1.50 USD ~ 1,00 EU
[18:07:42] < nicolas> HD W.DIGITAL WD5000AAKS 500GB 16MB SATA  <-- 82.50 euro
[18:08:02] < nicolas> patz2009: it's closer to 1.60 at the moment
[18:08:20] <+patz2009> Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3500630A 500GB Ultra ATA/100 7200RPM Hard Drive w/16MB Buffer - $109.99
[18:08:36] <+patz2009> Figures. US money is dropping so fast nowadays
[18:08:38] < nicolas> but generally, computer parts here are more expensive, and often havea close to 1$ to 1E price
[18:10:08] < nicolas> patz2009: just out of curiosity though, what kind of places did you apply to which are not responding to you ?
[18:10:23] <+patz2009> Mostly retail places
[18:11:45] < nicolas> seriously though, when you are young, waitressing is the easiest way to make pocket money
[18:13:42] < i_c-Y> if you're a girl. which only tahben is 
[18:14:11] < nicolas> if you are a girl your chances double, but it generally works for guys too
[18:14:28] < nicolas> and if you're not waitressing, you can always wash the plates
[18:16:14] <+Nikky> Or rob banks.
[18:16:58] <+patz2009> Nikky: Great idea. You always have the best ideas :)
[18:19:05] < nicolas> Nikky: it's just not as easy as it used to be ... 
[18:19:28] < nicolas> it used to be possible in groups of 2,3 or 4 ... nowadays needs way more planning, and possibly more people
[18:21:59] <+patz2009> Or, we could have all of this solved by one of you people out there just sending me a new hard drive... >.>
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[18:30:21] < i_c-Y> what capacity, patz2009 ?
[18:30:36] <+patz2009> Something bigger than 20GB... -_-
[18:30:51] < i_c-Y> ebay one
[18:30:57] <+patz2009> no money
[18:30:59] < i_c-Y> or craigslist
[18:33:47] <+Nikky> My largest drive is 320GB
[18:33:57] <+Nikky> Of course, I have two of those, and 4 250GB
[18:43:07] <+ports> wow
[18:43:12] <+ports> Nikky, all in 1 computer?
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[18:44:46] < i_c-Y> Barrett has like 4x 500GB
[18:51:05] < notLeofox> i have one 320
[18:51:10] < notLeofox> and a few 4
[18:52:05] < notLeofox> the size of your harddrive is your epenis
[18:52:13] <@Andy_J> my largest single drive is currently a 320 GB in my PVR box
[18:52:27] <@Andy_J> when I get my time capsule later this week it'll be 500 GB
[18:55:16] <+Nikky> haha, you're getting a time capsule?
[18:55:18] <+Nikky> utter fail
[18:55:21] <+Nikky> appletard
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[18:57:38] <@Andy_J> well let's see
[18:57:45] <@Andy_J> 802.11n base station, $150
[18:57:50] <@Andy_J> 500 GB hard drive, $150
[18:57:53] <@Andy_J> = $300
[18:57:57] <@Andy_J> Time Capsule, $280
[18:58:03] <@Andy_J> I fail to see how this is not a good buy.
[18:59:12] <+Nikky> it's apple
[18:59:17] <+Nikky> so it's low quality hardware
[18:59:20] <+Nikky> and it sucks
[18:59:39] <+Nikky> not to mention it will probably overheat and blow up
[19:00:45] <+patz2009> My 802.11n base station was $100, and a 500GB HDD costs about $110.
[19:01:44] < i_c-Y> :(
[19:12:54] < nicolas> patz2009: yes, but can you fit that hdd in your base station?
[19:13:17] <+Nikky> but it's so pretty
[19:16:21]  * Nikky licks nicolas 
[19:19:17] < i_c-Y> nicolas: his base station's so thin that it puts yo' macbook air to shame.
[19:19:37] < i_c-Y> its so light that charlie rose got a black eye trying to prevent it from hittin the ground
[19:19:42] < i_c-Y> its so ____ that ____
[19:21:00] < E-J> i_c-Y: it's its if genetive
[19:21:22] < i_c-Y> this is IRC, we dont care, E-J :)
[19:22:04] < E-J> most people write to irc same way they write other places
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[19:22:18] < i_c-Y> nah dawg
[19:22:23] < E-J> although on irc i write "I" with small i
[19:22:32] < i_c-Y> i aint write in those other hoods liek i write on irc dawg
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[19:33:23] < spengolo> this mouse is nuts
[19:34:08] < spengolo> bananaphone
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[19:34:52] < i_c-Y> what mouse..
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[19:43:52] <@efneTI86> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing?
[19:43:56] <+chronomex> hi rivereye
[19:43:59] <+chronomex> what's new?
[19:44:05] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v rivereye] by etaonrish
[19:47:00] < i_c-Y> well... if it isn't chronomex 
[19:47:05] < i_c-Y> we need to have a talk, mister.
[19:47:22] < i_c-Y> sup?
[19:48:22] <+chronomex> why do we need to talk?
[19:48:35] < nicolas> you are you in  trouble...
[19:48:43] < nicolas> boy are you*
[19:48:43] <+chronomex> eep
[19:49:13] < nicolas> well, i'm going home
[19:49:15] < nicolas> later peeps
[19:49:18]  * nicolas &
[19:49:25] < i_c-Y> later
[19:49:28] < i_c-Y> chronomex: dunno.
[19:49:33] <+chronomex> okay
[19:49:47] < i_c-Y> trying to figure out why inkscape on windows sucks so mcuh
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[20:06:34] < i_c-Y> hm
[20:06:37] < i_c-Y> what the fux
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[20:13:20] <@efneTI86> [rivereye[] Is it time to go fishing?
[20:13:27] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v rivereye[] by efneTI86
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[20:20:06] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v patz2009] by efneTI81
[20:20:06] <+patz2009> WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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[20:30:29] <@efneTI86> [DSPLord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
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[20:56:37] < i_c-Y> lol paterson
[20:57:03] <+patz2009> lolicy
[21:00:58] < Netham46> lolpaterson
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[21:13:41] < i_c-Y> what the hell...
[21:14:32]  * Randomist wonders how many byte he's supposed to 'ADD HL'-ahead to skip to the data in an appvar...
[21:18:32] <+HQAT> Umm srry dunno... Check the ti sdk documentation :P
[21:46:50]  * Randomist figured it out.
[21:52:31] < Randomist> Isn't there a BCALL for comparing strings?
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[21:53:24] < Randomist> Can't find one in the System Routines PDF, but I think I remembe one time I heard there was a BCALL for comparing strings...
[21:53:28] <+HQAT> Umm yes I beleive there is..
[21:54:06] <+HQAT> I might be wrong tho :P
[21:54:16] <+HQAT> Cant find it on wikiti..
[21:55:01] <+HQAT> Maybe you could just use a bcall for comparing data instead of strings... it should make no difference I beleive? not sure if such a bcall exists
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[22:06:09] <@Andy_J> it's not that hard to do it manually
[22:06:41] <+sgm> http://pastebin.com/m221995cb
[22:06:44] <+sgm> Use that.
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[22:16:52] <@efneTI86> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing?
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[22:34:17] < E-J> !topic Welcome to #tcpa | http://tcpa.calcg.org | R.I.P. Arthur C. Clarke
[22:34:18] -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to #tcpa | http://tcpa.calcg.org | R.I.P. Arthur C. Clarke
[22:34:29] <+chronomex> :O
[22:34:39] -!- mode/#tcpa [+o E-J] by efneTI86
[22:34:40] <+chronomex> he died?!?
[22:34:59] <@E-J> just read from news
[22:35:07] <+chronomex> I see it on the BBC now
[22:35:37] <+patz2009> Arthur C. Clarke - From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - This article is about a person who has recently died.
[22:36:53] -!- mode/#tcpa [+o Nikky] by efneTI89
[22:36:57] <@Nikky> I will not let E-J outrank me
[22:37:17] <+chronomex> well you did for a while
[22:37:35] <@Nikky> lies and slander
[22:37:49] <+chronomex> truth and truthiness
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[22:38:45] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v ports] by etaonrish
[22:50:13] -!- mode/#tcpa [-o Nikky] by E-J
[22:50:17] -!- mode/#tcpa [-o+o E-J Nikky] by SnowCrash, efneTI92, efneTI83, efneTI89, efneTI86
[22:50:38] < E-J> interesting and epic fail
[22:50:57] -!- mode/#tcpa [+o E-J] by efneTI86
[22:51:27] <@E-J> tried to do /mode -o+o Nikky Nikky, but forgot second Nikky 
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[22:53:04] <@efneTI86> [Merthsoft] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
[22:53:12] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Merthsoft] by efneTI86
[22:53:42] <+Merthsoft> arthur c clarke died?
[22:54:10] <+Merthsoft> he was getting pretty damn old
[22:54:40] <+Merthsoft> i wonder if there was a book to be published in his will
[22:54:44] <+Merthsoft> maybe some more rama
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[23:25:36]  * Randomist does one, long happy dance:  he has finally moved to up Beta stage.
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[23:29:56] < millinao> I never read the book 2001, was it good
[23:31:24] <@benryves> I've never heard anything good about it, myself.
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[23:34:56] < Randomist> What's the best alternative to Latenite?
[23:35:08] < i_c-Y> vim
[23:35:08] <+patz2009> Notepad
[23:35:11] <@Nikky> pico
[23:35:22]  * benryves just uses Visual Studio.
[23:35:46] < millinao> nano
[23:36:08] <@benryves> Laziness prevails, and as Visual Studio associates .asm and .inc with itself it, and I can't be arsed to change it back, it provides a servicable editor.
[23:36:33] < millinao> doesn't visual studio take a long time to open up?
[23:36:41] < i_c-Y> not really.
[23:36:46]  * Randomist wonders if there's one that has as much one-click goodness as Latenite.
[23:36:50] <@benryves> millinao: Get Vista?
[23:36:55] < Randomist> Or that one-click goodness can easily be added.
[23:37:14] < Randomist> Like the debugging, for example.
[23:39:00] <@Andy_J> E-J: just be glad they didn't decide to set you +d[eop]
[23:39:06] <@Andy_J> or get all superbitch on you
[23:40:17]  * Randomist looks about Assembly Studio.
[23:40:32] <@benryves> Randomist: Or you could just use <insert name of generic text editor>
[23:40:43] <@Andy_J> copy con
[23:40:55] <@Nikky> pico
[23:41:00] <@Andy_J> cat - > file
[23:41:21] <@Andy_J> actually I guess cat defaults to STDIN so just cat > file
[23:42:42] <@Nikky> Hi Andy
[23:43:40] <+Merthsoft> millinao: it opens pretty instantly for me
[23:43:49] < millinao> oh
[23:44:06] < millinao> well, I haven't tinkered with it on anything better than 256 MB ran
[23:44:07] < millinao> *ram
[23:44:20] <+Merthsoft> benryves: can you set up visual studio to output a file for the calc?
[23:44:54] <@benryves> No idea, Merthsoft.
[23:44:59] <+Merthsoft> oh, ok
[23:46:12] <@benryves> Though I have seen Master System programs distributed as Visual Studio projects (with a makefile) for WLA-DX to build, so I guess it is possible. Never tried, though.
[23:46:49] <+Merthsoft> you shoujld figure it out :D
[23:47:42] < millinao> I don't know how VS deals with non-x86 binaries, but I know that you can make VS use different compilers
[23:48:01] <+Merthsoft> yeah, I use it for the DS
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