--- Log opened Mon Mar 17 00:00:59 2008
[00:03:43] <+bsparks> are any of you watching the simpsons?
[00:05:09]  * Randomist is.
[00:05:14] < Randomist> Seen it.
[00:05:16] <@efneTI86> I don't know who it. is.
[00:05:22] < Randomist> Shush.
[00:05:27] <+bsparks> my mother is exactly like marge in that >.>
[00:05:33] <+bsparks> except DVR, not tivo
[00:05:43] < Randomist> lol
[00:06:03] < Randomist> I had a DVR once... but it crashed all the time.
[00:06:14] < Randomist> Now it won't even boot up.
[00:06:18] <+bsparks> did you make it yourself?
[00:06:24] < Randomist> Nope.
[00:07:06] < Randomist> I took it apart and looked at it... nothing interesting 'cept it has an ARM procesor.
[00:07:59] <+bsparks> arrgh, damn phone
[00:08:21] < i_c-Y> you got something against ARM processors, Randomist ?
[00:08:59] < Randomist> Nope.
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[00:16:56] < Barrett> Honestly I'd rather have a LEG processor, i_c-Y
[00:18:07] <+ports> BrandonW, Why did the Atlantis people never team up with the energy mist?
[00:18:15] <+ports> You'd think the energy mist would be an awesome ally.
[00:18:26] < BrandonW> DAMN IT
[00:18:34] < BrandonW> I pasted a huge piece of code and of course I lost it.
[00:18:38] < BrandonW> Because my computer sucks.
[00:18:43] < BrandonW> Lost in clipboard heaven.
[00:18:53] < BrandonW> ports, because it wants to be left alone.
[00:18:58] < BrandonW> And using the stargate kills them.
[00:18:59] < BrandonW> Every time.
[00:19:02] < BrandonW> So even going there hurts them.
[00:19:04] < BrandonW> Leaving hurt them.
[00:19:35] <+ports> Right, but you'd think they could bring over a generator for it
[00:19:39] < BrandonW> "Fatal Error detected at run time. The application will be shut down. Please contact ZiLOG Technical Support if the error persists."
[00:19:57] < BrandonW> I am an extremely angry person right now.
[00:20:12] < BrandonW> ports, the gate draws power from it, they can't stop it.
[00:20:16] < BrandonW> The gate's a huge superconductor.
[00:20:19] < BrandonW> It takes anything it can get.
[00:20:24] <+Nikky> bsparks: What was that kevin thing all about?
[00:22:08] < BrandonW> http://rafb.net/p/IySR9Y35.html Ow. My head hurts. This is why no real OS patches exist.
[00:22:24] < BrandonW> And this is just to change 3 bytes.
[00:23:32] < i_c-Y> has anyone emailed TI asking for nspire docs?
[00:23:41] < BrandonW> Are you crazy?
[00:23:44] < BrandonW> They wouldn't give us anything.
[00:23:52] <+Nikky> You should ask!
[00:23:53] < BrandonW> There are TI employees that have come into #nspire to say no.
[00:24:11] <+Nikky> lies
[00:24:24] < i_c-Y> wont kill you to shoot em off an email ;)
[00:24:34] < BrandonW> I already shot off e-mails to them this morning.
[00:24:38] < BrandonW> Bitching about TI Connect.
[00:24:48] < i_c-Y> wont kill you to shoot em off
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[00:25:04] < BrandonW> That's a complete waste of time.
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[00:25:14] < BrandonW> I just told you they have told me they will never allow native code.
[00:25:32] < i_c-Y> i said wont kill you to shoot em off the second time
[00:25:35] < i_c-Y> ie bang bang
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[00:25:43] < i_c-Y> which was a joke of course.
[00:25:48] < i_c-Y> murder is bad
[00:25:55] < BrandonW> Unless it's a select few.
[00:26:45] < i_c-Y> so, BrandonW , have you considered the power of the dark side?
[00:26:54] < BrandonW> What do you mean by that?
[00:26:58] < BrandonW> 89Ti?
[00:27:04] < BrandonW> Since it's you asking, it'd have to be 68k.
[00:27:15] < i_c-Y> no... the dark dark side
[00:27:21] < i_c-Y> the hp side
[00:27:25] < BrandonW> Never.
[00:27:28] < BrandonW> You're a traitor for even asking.
[00:27:33] < BrandonW> You know better.
[00:27:37] <+Nikky> HP rules.
[00:27:45] < i_c-Y> one day you will acknowledge the power
[00:27:45] < boxknife> rofl
[00:27:49] < i_c-Y> the superiority!
[00:27:57] < i_c-Y> !k i_c-Y BLASPHEMER!
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[00:28:05] < i_c-Y> okay enough of that
[00:28:08] < boxknife> Hahaha
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[00:29:18] < boxknife> I wouldn't mind getting my hands on an HP-16c, actually
[00:29:29] < i_c-Y> i want a TI-89 TI BE
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[00:30:08] < i_c-Y> those look cool.
[00:30:23] <+BrandonW> Thanks for giving me +v, Nikky.
[00:30:33] <+Nikky> Thanks for hilighting me
[00:30:37] <+BrandonW> You're quite welcome.
[00:30:55]  * Randomist wonders if PHP has a (byte) type.
[00:31:13] < Randomist> Or somethin' equivelent to it.
[00:31:32] < i_c-Y> like char?
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[00:32:28] <+BrandonW> Now I'm tempted to write the msd8x code to actually grab an OS stored on the flash drive and install it over itself.
[00:33:09] < i_c-Y> Randomist: for what purpose do you want a byte?
[00:33:18] <+BrandonW> He's trying to write an 8XV creator.
[00:33:19] < Randomist> http://code.google.com/p/dragonfire-dasm/source/browse/trunk/dragonfire-dasm/ti/org/dragonfire/ti/TIFile.java?r=100
[00:33:21] < Randomist> Line 289.
[00:33:22] <+BrandonW> And needs to generate the checksum.
[00:33:31] <+BrandonW> As a sum of all the data bytes.
[00:33:55] < i_c-Y> oh.
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[00:34:53] < i_c-Y> you could store as a string and use chr
[00:35:13] < i_c-Y> err
[00:35:14] < i_c-Y> no
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[00:36:28] < i_c-Y> i suppose using a string and fread'ing 1 into it is one way
[00:36:48] < i_c-Y> or freading a bunch of stuff
[00:36:55] < i_c-Y> and then iterating byte by byte
[00:36:58] <+BrandonW> Just do that.
[00:37:02] <+BrandonW> fread into a string and chr.
[00:37:06] <+BrandonW> I did it eons ago.
[00:37:35] < i_c-Y> or just use cin / fscanf / getch or whatever in c/c++ and make it easy :)
[00:37:49] <+BrandonW> He refuses to learn another language to do this.
[00:37:52] <+BrandonW> So he's doing it in PHP.
[00:38:14] < i_c-Y> or fgetc
[00:38:27] < i_c-Y> though people seem to like putting getchar sutff into ints o.o
[00:38:35]  * Randomist ads "...'yet.'" to the end of BrandonW second-to-last statement.
[00:38:37] < Randomist> * adds
[00:38:43] <+BrandonW> BrandonW's*
[00:38:51] < i_c-Y> oh wait
[00:38:54] < i_c-Y> theres a fgetc in php
[00:38:57] < i_c-Y> i think.
[00:39:06] < i_c-Y> randomist, go check if fgetc exists.
[00:39:44] < Randomist> Yes.
[00:39:54] < i_c-Y> id venture its something like string fgetc( resource $handle)
[00:40:02] < i_c-Y> where handle is a filepointer 
[00:40:06] < i_c-Y> thats open
[00:40:07] <+BrandonW> Yes, I'm sure.
[00:40:10] <+BrandonW> I'm sure he's figured it out by now.
[00:40:38] < i_c-Y> i suppose so.
[00:40:56] < i_c-Y> hes randomist not Barrett after all
[00:43:44] < Barrett> I figure stuff out
[00:44:03] < i_c-Y> by asking #tcpa
[00:44:11] < Barrett> only sometimes
[00:44:33] < i_c-Y> when was the last time you did something totally on your own relating to a computer?
[00:44:50] < Barrett> today
[00:45:01] <+BrandonW> Turning it on?
[00:45:10] < Barrett> that's not what I was referring to, but yes.
[00:46:08] < i_c-Y> hm
[00:46:14] < Barrett> I figured out how to use c++'s qsort all by myself
[00:46:17] < i_c-Y> so did you ever get sendmail working?
[00:46:18] < i_c-Y> OH MY
[00:46:20] < Barrett> yes
[00:46:24] < i_c-Y> you're amazing
[00:46:55] < Barrett> well, I'm just answering the question that you asked
[00:46:55] < i_c-Y> nevermind its damn easy.
[00:47:07] < Barrett> oh, you weren't being sarcastic
[00:47:43] < i_c-Y> id be more sarcastic, but i have ear drops in my ear
[00:47:44] < Barrett> most of qsort is easy, except for writing your comparator function
[00:47:55] < i_c-Y> what were you writing it on?
[00:48:00] <+BrandonW> Oh, yes, that's extremely hard...
[00:48:12] <+BrandonW> Just so we're clear, that's sarcasm.
[00:48:15] < Barrett> well, you have to accept void pointers and cast them to what they are
[00:48:15] < i_c-Y> haha.
[00:48:33] < i_c-Y> oh no! pointers!
[00:48:36] < i_c-Y> whatever will i do?
[00:48:49] <+BrandonW> You could hush.
[00:48:51] < i_c-Y> since im faced with pointers, i may as well curl up in the corner ad die!
[00:48:53] < i_c-Y> and*
[00:48:55] < i_c-Y> but i wont
[00:49:04] <+BrandonW> I'm sure lots of people wish you would.
[00:49:25] < i_c-Y> i wish the same to lots of pepole too.
[00:50:27] <+BrandonW> What are you doing using qsort for, anyway?
[00:50:32] <+BrandonW> You're in school, you're supposed to be writing your own.
[00:50:50] < Barrett> they told us to use it
[00:51:04] <+BrandonW> "they" suck.
[00:51:10] < Barrett> it was to sort a column of things that could have been either strings or numbers
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[00:51:37] < Barrett> we already wrote a quick sort in 235
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[00:51:48] < Barrett> this class isn't about algorithms
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[00:51:53] <+BrandonW> What class is this for?
[00:51:59] <+BrandonW> My algorithms class was basically just using the STL.
[00:52:13] < Barrett> I forget the exact name of the class, but it's mostly just learning C++
[00:52:22] < i_c-Y> quicksort is for kids to write
[00:52:31] < i_c-Y> well
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[00:52:32] < Barrett> on the first day the professor said the goal was to get us to write 3000 lines of code in C++
[00:52:34] <+BrandonW> But try writing it in z80!
[00:52:36] < i_c-Y> a basic quicksort anyway.
[00:52:42] < i_c-Y> in c/c++
[00:52:55] < i_c-Y> in asm its less fun. esp with such limited resources.
[00:53:12] <+BrandonW> Michael did it, sorting data linked between two RAM pages...
[00:53:20] <+BrandonW> One RAM pgae full of pointers, the other full of strings.
[00:53:23] <+BrandonW> page*
[00:53:25] < Barrett> the web crawler failed to get me to even write 500... so hopefully Chess will push me over 1000
[00:53:32] < i_c-Y> parallelizing it is more fun i suppose.
[00:53:53] <+BrandonW> It's what gives the 1170 file limit in usb8x/msd8x.
[00:53:58] <+BrandonW> Actually, just msd8x.
[00:54:02] <+BrandonW> Which Netham of course broke.
[00:54:13] <+BrandonW> That's per folder.
[00:54:19] <+BrandonW> And he still broke it.
[00:54:25] < DarkAuron> jerk
[00:54:36] < i_c-Y> lol
[00:54:59] <+BrandonW> Who tries to look at a folder of 1170 things on a flash drive from their calculator? Honestly!
[00:55:08] < Barrett> oh, also, I wrote a web crawler without asking #tcpa
[00:55:18] <+BrandonW> You asked for sites to test with.
[00:55:20] <+BrandonW> And mine broke it.
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[00:55:31] < Barrett> but I didn't ask anyone how to fix it
[00:56:07] <+BrandonW> We'll have to consult the logs before we rule on that.
[00:56:31] < Barrett> There is one website that broke it and that I never fixed
[00:56:33] < Barrett> slashdot
[00:56:39] < i_c-Y> well shit
[00:56:42] < i_c-Y> slashdot.
[00:56:45] < i_c-Y> real smart.
[00:56:47] < Barrett> slashdot uses the strangest link stuff ever
[00:57:04] < Barrett> a href="//slashdot.org/path/to/file.pl"
[00:57:11] < Barrett> I had never seen that before looking at slashdot
[00:57:25] <+chronomex> that's really wierd
[00:57:33] <+chronomex> preserves http/https distinction?
[00:58:24] <+BrandonW> And you didn't fix it?
[00:58:47] < Barrett> BrandonW: no need.  the project specifications said that absolute links would start with either file: or http://
[00:59:04] <+BrandonW> Oh, I thought you were just writing that for fun.
[00:59:15] < Barrett> nah
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[00:59:42] < Barrett> I didn't find it all that fun
[01:02:23] <+BrandonW> It kills me how web browsers in TV shows have URLs that start with file://
[01:02:43] < i_c-Y> as opposed to?
[01:02:48] <+BrandonW> http://?
[01:02:55] < i_c-Y> do you really think they want those machines on the internets?
[01:03:00] < i_c-Y> like what if a porn popup comes up?
[01:03:13] <+BrandonW> They could at least change the URL in the address bar. Saying you're on the internet when it shows you're clearly not is stupid.
[01:03:15] <+BrandonW> It's unrealistic.
[01:03:19] <+BrandonW> It doesn't have to ACTUALLY be on the internet.
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[01:03:39] <+BrandonW> They could register a domain and put whatever they want on it.
[01:03:41] <+BrandonW> And use URL cloaking.
[01:03:43] <+BrandonW> Or whatever!
[01:03:45] <+BrandonW> Anything!
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[01:04:21] < Barrett> chronomex: after some googling, yes, that's exactly what it means
[01:04:31] <+chronomex> sweet!
[01:05:08] < Barrett> but all of the so called experts who are commenting on it think it's retarded
[01:05:13] < Barrett> so I wouldn't copy that style
[01:05:30] <+BrandonW> What's their reasoning for it being stupid?
[01:06:31] < Barrett> it only works because of browsers having a "fallback" to recover from bad URIs
[01:07:07] <+BrandonW> That's the browser's fault.
[01:09:33] <+BrandonW> "Place projectile weapon on the ground." "You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers." "Your proposal is acceptable."
[01:09:54] < Barrett> mib?
[01:09:57] <+BrandonW> Yes.
[01:09:59] <+BrandonW> TBS.
[01:10:02] < DarkAuron> I recognized that too
[01:10:02] < DarkAuron> lo
[01:12:12] < i_c-Y> haha.
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[01:13:51] <@efneTI86> [Merthsoft] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
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[01:14:36] <@efneTI86> [Spengo] If at first you don't succeed, you fail.
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[01:20:17] < i_c-Y> strangely enough, BrandonW , im watching that too
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[01:23:49] < DarkAuron> hah
[01:23:53] < DarkAuron> [C: 0.07/74.55GB 0.1% free] - [F: 0/0GB 0% free] - [H: 0/0GB 0% free] - [Total: 0.07/74.55GB 0.1% free]
[01:24:06] <+BrandonW> Rod Roddy, the male announcer on The Price is Right before he died, had breast cancer.
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[01:24:11] <+BrandonW> This I did not know.
[01:24:36] < DarkAuron> breast cancer?
[01:28:04] < Barrett> Cancer in the breast, DarkAuron
[01:28:22] < DarkAuron> I know, rare to hear a guy got it though :P
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[01:28:44] < Barrett> yeah
[01:28:44] <+bsparks> :( analog only mode is disabled on me phone
[01:29:00] < Barrett> I think it can be brought on by smoking cigars
[01:29:09] < Barrett> or that's what I heard when in elementary school
[01:29:50] < Barrett> or actually it says just tobacco smoke
[01:31:14] < Barrett> Incidences of breast cancer in men are approximately 100 times less common than in women, but men with breast cancer are considered to have the same statistical survival rates as women.
[01:31:43] < Barrett> BrandonW: do you know if it was the colon cancer or the breast cancer that got to him?
[01:34:06] <@E-J> DarkAuron: on tv-series oz, one of the prisoners had breast cancer
[01:34:17] < DarkAuron> interesting
[01:35:03] <@E-J> i should watch that series to end some day
[01:35:13] <@E-J> i have all episodes at my computer
[01:35:22] <@E-J> all remaining*
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[01:35:58] <+BrandonW> Barrett, I didn't read that much.
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[01:44:48] < Spengo> ☃
[01:44:51] < Spengo> snowman :D
[01:47:43] <+bsparks> :o
[01:48:56] < Spengo> 2603 hex
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[01:53:43] < i_c-Y> hm
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[01:57:57] <@efneTI86> [Captain_A] Censored
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[01:58:09] <+Captain_A> Hola
[01:58:17] <+patz2009> Hola.
[02:03:48] <+Captain_A> Whats up
[02:03:59] <+patz2009> Nothing much, how about you?
[02:05:22] <+TD-Linux> Hago mi tarea de español
[02:05:42] <+TD-Linux> or I should say
[02:05:48] < mokomull> TD-Linux: 我不要。
[02:05:58] <+TD-Linux> Estoy hiciendo mi tarea de español
[02:06:09] <+patz2009> That's better, TD-Linux.
[02:06:11] < mokomull> TD-Linux: No, estás haciendo.
[02:07:15] <+TD-Linux> pfft, who cares about tenses on -ndo anyway :P
[02:07:41] <+patz2009> TD-Linux: Who cares about words that end with -ing?
[02:08:09] <+TD-Linux> thatś not what I said
[02:09:02] < mokomull> nice deadkey :P
[02:09:11] < Barrett> TD-Linux: both work, but it sort of depends on the question that you are asked
[02:09:17] < mokomull> and that's not exactly the tense, you fucked up the _root_ :P
[02:10:18] <+bsparks> huh...
[02:10:21] <+bsparks> that's odd...
[02:10:23] < mokomull> ?
[02:10:36] <+TD-Linux> but the tenses are the ones that mess up the root
[02:10:38] <+bsparks> I never knew I had 6.5gb of e-mail space
[02:10:54] < Barrett> mokomull: it's easy to mix up a and i in hacer, since certain tenses require an i
[02:11:01] < mokomull> indeedy
[02:11:13] < Barrett> well, easy for a beginner
[02:11:26] <+TD-Linux> which I am very much so :)
[02:11:35] < mokomull> like since the past tense is hic-
[02:11:37] < mokomull> gotcha
[02:11:45]  * TD-Linux hates the deadkey in us_intl but is too lazy to change it
[02:11:56]  * TD-Linux just switches between the two often
[02:12:06] < Barrett> a lot of people do progressive with the same root as past tense... it's just kind of natural, even if it's wrong
[02:12:40] < mokomull> have I forgotten that much of my Spanish?
[02:12:54] <+TD-Linux> Barrett, you don't have to defend me too much ;p
[02:12:59] <+TD-Linux> eek my shift key is dying
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[02:20:07] <+Captain_A> Yah I only have spanish one under my belt
[02:20:26] <+Captain_A> French 3 and Italian 1 as well
[02:20:34] <+patz2009> I have Spanish 4, but now that I'm in German I'm starting to forget it >.>
[02:24:47] <+Captain_A> haha
[02:24:51] <+Captain_A> That is the problem
[02:25:09] <+Captain_A> I am taking 3 languages at the moment
[02:25:20] <+Captain_A> 2 of them back to back
[02:25:40] <+Captain_A> then I have a period off, and then I have the last one
[02:26:14] <+chronomex> what languages?
[02:26:32] <+Captain_A> French, Italian, Spanish
[02:26:46] <+Captain_A> all romance languages to keep it easy
[02:26:48] <+chronomex> ah
[02:28:01] <+Captain_A> Kind of wish I took the spanish freshman year instead
[02:28:21] <+Captain_A> more utility in the U.S.
[02:29:58] < mokomull> heh
[02:30:42] <+Captain_A> hmm, any stracraft/warcraft 3 players
[02:32:46] < Spengo> ¯\(º_o)/¯
[02:33:03] < Spengo> everyone plays starcraft
[02:33:09] <+chronomex> not me!
[02:33:35] < mokomull> me neither
[02:33:51] <+chronomex> mokomull: call back yet?
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[02:35:45] < mokomull> eh?
[02:35:59] < mokomull> I don't know the results, if that's what you ask.
[02:38:27] <+Captain_A> So wc3 or starcraft
[02:38:38] <+chronomex> yeah, no, ok
[02:39:13] < Spengo> Hunterkll, did you go to the operation party hard in your city?
[02:39:37] < Hunterkll> DID I?
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[02:39:46] < Hunterkll> I was responsable for live coverage
[02:39:50] < Hunterkll> during the event
[02:39:53] < Spengo> o
[02:39:54] < Hunterkll> the live a/v stream
[02:40:19] < Hunterkll> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLz3IUBKhRo the epic speech that is one of the many i recorded
[02:40:21] < Spengo> I went, but I just jumped around and yelled
[02:40:23] < Spengo> and ate cake
[02:40:35] < Hunterkll> I'm an organizer
[02:40:54] < Spengo> I organized for people from my college to go
[02:41:04] < Spengo> and friends from my high school
[02:41:16] < Hunterkll> I'm a protest organizer heh
[02:41:21] < Hunterkll> watch that speech
[02:41:26] < Hunterkll> THAT is why we are fighting 
[02:41:41] < Spengo> or rather, pasted flyers in the bathroom stalls in dorms and demanded a ride from people with cars
[02:41:45] < Spengo> hehe
[02:41:55] < Spengo> but I did see quite a few people from my school there
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[02:42:17] < Spengo> oh nice you got an ex-scientologist
[02:42:28] < Hunterkll> We had freezoners
[02:42:29] < Hunterkll> Arnie
[02:42:30] < Hunterkll> etc
[02:42:42] < Spengo> we had a lot of newfags :( yelling memes and stuff, idiots
[02:42:48] < Hunterkll> whatever
[02:42:52] < Hunterkll> you need organized control 
[02:43:12] < Spengo> well, remember there is no leader
[02:43:59] < Hunterkll> ..... 
[02:44:06] < Hunterkll> LOcal leaders can arise and set up
[02:44:11] < Hunterkll> and provide an  AV setup 
[02:44:13] < Hunterkll> and control
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[02:44:24] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!!
[02:44:28] < Hunterkll> And cake
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[02:44:31] < Hunterkll> We had cake
[02:44:33] <+Sir_Lewk> RAWR
[02:44:34] < Hunterkll> it wasn't a lie
[02:44:41] < Spengo> there was cake in portland too
[02:44:46] <+Sir_Lewk> YOU DID NOT SAVE ME ANY?!?
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[02:45:01]  * Sir_Lewk stomps Hunterkll and Spengo
[02:45:19] < Spengo> hunterkll is an idiot :P
[02:46:05] <+Sir_Lewk> a flat idiot now
[02:46:20] <+Sir_Lewk> I actually ate cake today to
[02:47:02] <+Merthsoft> oh man
[02:47:03] <+Merthsoft> i love cake
[02:47:09] <+Sir_Lewk> yeah man
[02:47:29] <+Sir_Lewk> I had some chocolate cake and several vanilla cupcakes today
[02:47:33] <+Sir_Lewk> it was excellent
[02:47:58] <+Merthsoft> fatty
[02:48:26] <+Sir_Lewk> My shear sexiness burns off all my fat.
[02:48:48] <+Merthsoft> haha, awesome
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[02:54:01] <+Captain_A> I had a shamrock shake today
[02:54:07] <+Captain_A> almost had to change my pants
[02:54:29] <+Sir_Lewk> lol
[02:54:46] <+Sir_Lewk> I banged 17 babes on a bunch of shamrocks today
[02:55:03] <+Sir_Lewk> I wore no pants
[02:55:37] <+chronomex> ... congrats?
[02:55:55] <+chronomex> I don't like st. patrick's day
[02:56:12] <+Captain_A> its tomorrow 
[02:56:21] <+Sir_Lewk> actually, st. patrick
[02:56:28] <+Sir_Lewk> 's day is kind of lame for me
[02:56:47] <+Sir_Lewk> since I look down on all the people who just go out and get drunk
[02:57:24] <+Captain_A> Why, who needs a holiday for that
[02:57:29] <+chronomex> fuck me sideways, I'm a Scot, and Scots don't celebrate Irish holidays
[02:58:28] <+Captain_A> I'm 1/4 irish, 3/4 russian so we might as well fight now
[02:58:50] <+BrandonW> Done any more 89Ti stuff, chronomex?
[02:59:06] <+Sir_Lewk> 1/2 Italian, 1/2 German
[02:59:26] <+Sir_Lewk> I'm gonna holocaust you ass :P
[02:59:29] <+chronomex> BrandonW: no, it's FINALS WEEK
[02:59:35] <+Sir_Lewk> yeah, that too
[02:59:53] <+Sir_Lewk> I have a easyshite CS exam tomorrow
[03:00:31] <+Captain_A> I have a chemistry quiz?
[03:00:34] <+BrandonW> Finals week in March?
[03:00:48] < i_c-Y> hes in washington
[03:00:55] < i_c-Y> march is the most summer-like as its going to get!
[03:01:11] <+Sir_Lewk> my school does some weird trimester/quarter thing
[03:02:01] <+chronomex> BrandonW: yeah, winter quarter ends this week
[03:07:14] <+BrandonW> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsU5_P8hWpI That loading for anybody?
[03:07:39] <+patz2009> BrandonW: Nope.
[03:08:17] <+chronomex> BrandonW: me neither
[03:08:45] < i_c-Y> yes
[03:08:52] <+Merthsoft> no
[03:08:56] < i_c-Y> jklol.
[03:09:20] < i_c-Y> and Randomist , its i_c-Y, not i-c_Y
[03:09:22] < i_c-Y> :(
[03:09:31] < Randomist> Huh?
[03:09:33] < Randomist> Oh.
[03:16:51] <+BrandonW> http://www.detachedsolutions.com/forum/m/35714/#msg_35714 This thread turned really interesting really quickly.
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[03:17:55] <+BrandonW> If the OS isn't scanning the keypad fast enough for those keys, it might need to be patched.
[03:18:00] <+BrandonW> We might even trigger an OS update!
[03:25:32] <+BrandonW> He's saying the same program (two different 8XPs, but same code) worked at first, and now it doesn't
[03:25:39] <+BrandonW> So it's either batteries, screwy hardware, or timing issues, in my opinion.
[03:25:57] <+BrandonW> I hope it's timing issues...
[03:26:01] <+BrandonW> Finally an opportunity for a useful OS patch.
[03:26:47] <+BrandonW> And to send a nasty e-mail to TI.
[03:26:57] <+BrandonW> About how they can't scan their damn keypad directly.
[03:27:01] <+BrandonW> correctly.*
[03:28:15] <+chronomex> that DID turn interesting
[03:28:15] < i_c-Y> !k i-c_Y impersonation
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[03:28:33] < patz2009> awdang!
[03:28:40] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v patz2009] by efneTI89
[03:28:44] <+BrandonW> You should be banned.
[03:28:52] <+chronomex> bannt
[03:28:53] < i_c-Y> besides, patz2009 , you cant pull off my charisma.
[03:29:09] <+patz2009> I could only wish...
[03:30:20] <+DSP_Lord> b&
[03:31:32] < i_c-Y> better b& than v&
[03:33:51] <+Nikky> Who was i_c-Y
[03:33:57] <+Nikky> er
[03:34:04] <+Nikky> i-c_Y
[03:34:06] < i_c-Y> patz2009
[03:34:11] <+Nikky> orly
[03:34:15] < i_c-Y> yep
[03:34:21] <+patz2009> yarly
[03:34:26] <+Nikky> You have a free kick for him
[03:34:30] <+Nikky> use it whenever you wish
[03:34:33] <+patz2009> He already used it.
[03:34:37] <+Nikky> I know
[03:34:40] <+Nikky> he started with two
[03:34:46] <+patz2009> awdang!
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[03:49:00] <+ports> hrm
[03:49:12] <+ports> i dont understand why they dont retrieve bodies of soldiers in Atlantis
[03:49:28] <+BrandonW> What do you mean by that?
[03:50:02] <+ports> i just watched the Defiant One
[03:50:10] <+ports> they left the bodies of 2 people in the hive ship
[03:50:18] <+BrandonW> How do you know that?
[03:50:23] <+ports> true..
[03:50:25] <+ports> the episode ended
[03:50:32] <+BrandonW> It's a 15 hour trip by jumper.
[03:50:36] <+ports> lol
[03:50:47] <+BrandonW> Why's that funny?
[03:50:54] <+ports> because i alughed
[03:51:02] <+BrandonW> It's funny because you laughed?
[03:51:04] <+BrandonW> Okay, why did you laugh?
[03:51:21] <+ports> it seems like on SG-1 there was more emphasis on not leaving injured people... theyd drag them around if anything
[03:51:36] <+BrandonW> You're being stupid, you have no idea if they went back for them or not.
[03:51:41] <+BrandonW> Just because you didn't see it on camera...
[03:51:43] <+BrandonW> You're one of those people.
[03:51:46] <+BrandonW> Didn't see it, so it didn't happen.
[03:51:50] <+BrandonW> You have to leave out a lot of stuff, you know.
[03:51:52] <+BrandonW> They were dead, anyway.
[03:51:52] <+ports> exactly.
[03:51:57] <+BrandonW> And no more danger.
[03:52:00] <+BrandonW> The last Wraith was dead.
[03:52:06] <+BrandonW> They're free to go pick them up whenever they want.
[03:52:06] <+ports> US military doesnt leave people.
[03:52:14] <+BrandonW> Whatever...
[03:52:29] <+BrandonW> You're picking on the show because you didn't see them pick up the bodies.
[03:52:35] <+BrandonW> The dead bodies.
[03:53:08] <+ports> yes
[03:53:28] <+BrandonW> So you're an idiot.
[03:53:45] <+ports> how?
[03:53:54] <+ports> for assuming things happened, that were never explained...
[03:54:00] <+ports> ?
[03:54:31] <+BrandonW> If it was so stupid to leave them, why are you assuming that they did?
[03:54:36] <+BrandonW> You're assuming the show is stupid.
[03:54:44] <+BrandonW> They shouldn't have to explain something so stupid to you.
[03:54:45] <+ports> didnt see it. didnt happen.
[03:54:50] <+BrandonW> But I guess they didn't expect idiots like you to watch it.
[03:54:52] <+ports> its only stupid to you
[03:54:55] <+BrandonW> That is a ridiculous position to take.
[03:54:57] <+ports> haha
[03:55:06] <+ports> :) you're all worked up over this
[03:55:09] <+ports> calm down.. its the interweb
[03:55:20] <+BrandonW> No, that's just how I type.
[03:55:24] <+BrandonW> And we all know you're an idiot. :)
[03:55:29] <+ports> we all do?
[03:55:32] <+BrandonW> Yes.
[03:55:32] <+ports> whys that..
[03:55:34] <+BrandonW> Ask somebody.
[03:55:42] <+ports> because i dont reverse engineer software from TI like you?
[03:55:51] <+BrandonW> No, no one mentioned anything about calculators.
[03:55:56] <+BrandonW> We're just talking about common sense watching a TV show.
[03:56:04] <+ports> Nikky, yo
[03:56:10] <+ports> lol
[03:58:40] <+bsparks> lolxkcd
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[04:06:57] <+ports> the dead girl just blinked
[04:08:03] <+BrandonW> Maybe it was a twitch.
[04:08:13] <+BrandonW> You have this thing about dead bodies, apparently.
[04:08:14] <+BrandonW> Freak.
[04:09:32] <+Merthsoft> bsparks: lolxkcd indeed
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[04:14:43] < Hunterkll> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/dcprotest rebroadcasting part of dc protest STREAMING IT NAOW
[04:20:08] <+Merthsoft> seriously?
[04:20:22] <+Merthsoft> you guys still give a shit about this nonsense?
[04:20:57] <+BrandonW> This is Hunterkll you're talking to.
[04:21:27] < Hunterkll> ......
[04:21:30] < Hunterkll> Nonesense?
[04:21:51] <+Merthsoft> wtf is Nonesense?
[04:21:59] <+patz2009> THIS
[04:22:00] <+patz2009> IS
[04:22:02] <+patz2009> #TCPA!
[04:23:04] <+bsparks> bloody hell, tilem won't compile
[04:23:09] <+bsparks> fucking linux
[04:23:20] < Hunterkll> Merthsoft: Scientology isn't nonesense 
[04:23:26] < Hunterkll> At least, protesting
[04:23:31] <+Merthsoft> nonesense isn't a word
[04:23:39] < Hunterkll> nonsense
[04:23:40] < Hunterkll> even
[04:23:58] <+Merthsoft> protesting any religion is nonsense
[04:24:05] < Hunterkll> They tried to follow all of us home from DC area
[04:24:06] < Spengo> it isn't a religion
[04:24:10] < Spengo> that's the whole point lol :P
[04:24:17] < Hunterkll> We don't protest the beliefs of scientology
[04:24:24] < Hunterkll> just the actions of the organization
[04:24:39] <+Merthsoft> that's stupid
[04:24:41] < Hunterkll> freezoners practice scientology beliefs without being a dick organization
[04:24:47] < Hunterkll> or running a slave camp in the US
[04:24:53] < Hunterkll> or running an armed navy
[04:24:57] < Hunterkll> or attacking critics
[04:25:03] < Hunterkll> or killing people
[04:25:30] <+Merthsoft> oh yes, let's make allegations
[04:25:36] < Spengo> Hunterkll, focus more on stuff like disconnection, the whole killing people thing makes you sound dumb
[04:25:55] <+Merthsoft> blindly believe everything /b/ tells us
[04:26:05] < Hunterkll> I don't go to /b/ ?
[04:26:07] < Spengo> actually /b/ thinks the protestors are idiots
[04:26:11] < Hunterkll> or any chan websites, really
[04:26:17] < Spengo> no but you go to digg :P
[04:26:22] < Spengo> which is just as bad if not worse
[04:26:23] <+BrandonW> You're all idiots.
[04:26:29] <+Merthsoft> I agree
[04:26:41] < Hunterkll> Merthsoft: I have L Rons military records courtey FOIA requests just to show he was a lying fool
[04:26:57] < Hunterkll> I have all sorts of documents and research from first party sources, too
[04:27:00] <+Merthsoft> lying about what?
[04:27:02] < Spengo> Hunterkll, that's stuff nobody cares about though
[04:27:03] < Hunterkll> and ex scientologists
[04:27:08] < Hunterkll> he claimed all sorts of stuff
[04:27:18] < Spengo> what you want to hear is the stuff from ex-scientologists about their experiences with disconnection
[04:27:26] < Hunterkll> such as being a 1st Sgt in the USMC from nothing in less then a year
[04:27:27] < Spengo> and also how they exploit people and steal all their moneys
[04:27:37] <+Merthsoft> who cares?
[04:27:50] < Hunterkll> oh, here we go, merthsoft, this video is an ex scieno speech - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLz3IUBKhRo
[04:28:17] <+Merthsoft> oh yeah, i'm sure she is
[04:28:19] < Hunterkll> lose 9 minutes of your life to hear what they can do to someone's life
[04:28:39] < Spengo> the whole thing where if you decide to quit being a scientologist, you are shut off from all your friends and family and no one is allowed to talk to you
[04:28:53] < Spengo> it's what causes the suicides and stuff
[04:29:00] <+Merthsoft> other religions do that too
[04:29:07] < Spengo> not really
[04:29:16] < Hunterkll> Sengo: Shut up and stop trying to jerk to disconnection BS at the moment
[04:29:23] < Hunterkll> you should watch her speech too
[04:29:25] <+Merthsoft> Spengo: umm, ok
[04:29:32] < Hunterkll> shit made people cry
[04:29:35] <+Merthsoft> you're right, no other religions have any kind of exiles
[04:29:52] < Spengo> Hunterkll, shut up and stop jerking to "omg L Ron lied about military service"
[04:29:55] < Hunterkll> Spengo: Do more research please
[04:30:12] < Hunterkll> and/or watch her speech
[04:30:52] <+Merthsoft> this is pointless
[04:31:45] < Hunterkll> Why is it pointless?
[04:32:15] < Hunterkll> I don't care about their beliefs, go do what you want, but if you are going to run it as a for profit type of situation, please pay taxes 
[04:32:22] < Hunterkll> at the minimum
[04:33:17] <+Merthsoft> "Oh, look what this girl who says she is an ex scientologist says they did with no proof or anything, just what she says"
[04:33:19] <+Merthsoft> it's pointless
[04:33:34] < Hunterkll> She's well known in this area
[04:33:41] <+Merthsoft> so was hitler
[04:33:42] < Spengo> see, now that's a good argument, and stuff like what's in your ex-scientologists talk
[04:33:44] < Hunterkll> We know about her ethics officer 
[04:33:45] < Hunterkll> etc
[04:33:56] < glk> My Mac has a usb E meter
[04:34:02] < Hunterkll> lolwut?
[04:34:09] < Spengo> glk rocks
[04:34:13] <+Merthsoft> I mean, hitler lied about all sorts of shit
[04:34:26] <+Merthsoft> and he was pretty well trusted in his area
[04:34:35] < Hunterkll> .... that's not what i'm talking about
[04:34:35] < Spengo> anyways Merthsoft you can hear about stuff like this from any ex-scientologist
[04:34:44] < Hunterkll> like, we can verify a good deal about what she said
[04:34:47] < Spengo> it's not just this one isolated woman
[04:35:13] < Hunterkll> She's just not some random girl who showed up
[04:35:14] <+Nikky> There's nothing wrong with Scientology, guys.
[04:35:18] <+Merthsoft> i'm not gonna watch it, just summerize it
[04:35:25] <+Merthsoft> did they rape her?
[04:35:39] < Hunterkll> You are right, Nikky, there's nothing wrong with the beliefs 
[04:35:54] < Spengo> Hunterkll, lol he's just trolling :P
[04:35:57] <+patz2009> o hai guise
[04:36:01] <+Merthsoft> imma take that as a no
[04:36:04] <+Merthsoft> did they kill her?
[04:36:08] < Hunterkll> Merthsoft: No, they drove her father to commit suicide by making him believe that he was an enemy of the church
[04:36:19] <+Nikky> Well, he was.
[04:36:27] <+Merthsoft> Well, that sucks for him
[04:36:40] < Hunterkll> He wasn't though, thoroughly believed in the church. and gave them TONS of money
[04:36:49] <+Merthsoft> I have familiy that have killed themselves over excommunication from the catholic church
[04:37:09] < Hunterkll> He killed himself
[04:37:13] < Hunterkll> so he could come back
[04:37:14] < Spengo> catholic church doesn't go around randomly excommunicating people though
[04:37:17] < Spengo> well not anymore lmao
[04:37:17] < Hunterkll> to pay more money
[04:37:26] < Hunterkll> and get more scientology auditing
[04:37:32] < Spengo> they used to be just as bad back in the day :P
[04:37:32] <+Merthsoft> who cares if they do or don't, it's their call
[04:37:47] <+patz2009> bai guise
[04:37:52] <+Nikky>  bai
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[04:37:53] < Spengo> BYE PATZ
[04:37:59] <+Nikky> phail
[04:38:18] <+Merthsoft> hell, i have family that killed themselves over the little men they saw in the corner of their eyes that "Look like the damn gooks" you don't see me protesting gooks
[04:38:29] < Hunterkll> .....
[04:38:46] <+Nikky> Merthsoft just stares that them weird.
[04:39:24] <+Merthsoft> so, maybe that last example is extreme, but the uncle who emptied his skull with a desert eagle because he was excommunicated isn't
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[04:39:56] < Hunterkll> John had been told, after 25 years, that he was an 'illegal pc' because he was a security risk. He commited suicide believing that he would come back in another body and be able to get auditing. He wanted Scientology so much... he wanted it more that he wanted life.
[04:40:15] <+Merthsoft> maybe he will come back in another body
[04:40:22] < Hunterkll> Surviving with his wife and his parents, of Alexandria, are three daughters, Michele Anna-Louise Boucher and Jeanne-Marie Boucher, both of Winchester, and Marguerite Jaime Boucher at home; two sisters, Antoinette ?Toni? Buchanan of Draper, Utah, and Adrienne Boucher of Centreville; and a brother, Jeffrey Boucher of Linden.
[04:40:31] < Hunterkll> John H. Boucher
[04:40:32] < Hunterkll> John H. Boucher, 46, of 949 Allen Drive, Winchester, died Sunday, May 6, 2001, in Winchester Medical Center.
[04:40:42] < Hunterkll> His daughter is the one who spoke 
[04:40:44] <+Merthsoft> ok, and?
[04:41:01]  * Nikky snuggles Merthsoft 
[04:41:18] < Hunterkll> they convinced him that he was hypnotized/drugged/tortured to be a spy on the church, went insane, etc
[04:41:31] <+Merthsoft> once again
[04:41:35] <+Merthsoft> imma point out my dead uncle
[04:41:47] < Hunterkll> Why was he ExComm'd?
[04:41:56] <+Nikky> Tried to kill the pope.
[04:41:58] <+Merthsoft> i don't remember
[04:42:00] < Hunterkll> The Vatican dosn't do that lightly
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[04:42:05] <@efneTI86> [Tyler2] I speak fluent dialup.
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[04:42:13] <+Merthsoft> shit dude, it wasn't even papal
[04:42:17] <+Merthsoft> it was totally fucked up
[04:42:23] < Hunterkll> Scientology does it to get more money <----
[04:42:45] < Hunterkll> they convince you you are enemy subconciously and make you pay to fix yourself
[04:42:53] < Hunterkll> out of money? Oh! Take out a home mortgage! =]
[04:43:01] < Hunterkll> put yourself in massive debt
[04:43:02] < Hunterkll> etc
[04:43:33] <+Merthsoft> Like, the local sect told him he was excommunicated (no papal decree here, just them being dicks) and he was shunned by the entire community, driven into great depression, though he had fucked up so much he was gonna go to hell no matter what so decided to kill himself.
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[04:43:36] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!!
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[04:43:57] < Hunterkll> That's what scientology does, on a far larger scale
[04:44:01] <+Nikky> Merthsoft: :(
[04:44:03] < Hunterkll> that was a local incident .....
[04:44:14] < Hunterkll> Scientology does it organization wide as standard policy
[04:44:20] <+Nikky> Merthsoft: Just ignore Hunterkll. Whatever you say, he'll just reply with "thatz wut scientology doez lololol"
[04:44:28] < Hunterkll> ....
[04:44:40] <+Merthsoft> Well, that's dumb
[04:44:44] < Hunterkll> Exactly
[04:44:45] <+Merthsoft> too bad it's their rite
[04:45:06] < Hunterkll> THey get tax exempt statuses no other religion gets.
[04:45:13] < Hunterkll> Go figure that one out.
[04:45:14] <+Nikky> I for one support our new scientology overlords
[04:45:20] <+Merthsoft> my uncle didn't kill himself because of the church, he killed himself because he was metally unwell
[04:45:55] < Hunterkll> Oh, yea, scientology hates pscychiatry and will NOT let its followers take any psych meds etc for any problem
[04:46:01] <+Merthsoft> i know
[04:46:09] <+Merthsoft> which is dumb
[04:46:12] <+Merthsoft> it's all dumb
[04:46:20] <+Merthsoft> stupid stupid organization
[04:46:28] <+Merthsoft> stupid stupid people for being part of it
[04:46:29] < Hunterkll> And can anyone outside the vatican excommunicate?
[04:46:36] <+Merthsoft> i dunno
[04:46:44] <+Merthsoft> but they led my uncle to think so
[04:47:06] < Hunterkll> Roman Catholic?
[04:47:11] <+Merthsoft> mmhmm
[04:48:17] < Hunterkll>  (for instance, an excommunicated person may not receive Communion, but would not be barred from attending Mass)
[04:48:26] <+Merthsoft> he was
[04:48:31] <+Merthsoft> i told you
[04:48:35] < Hunterkll> He was barred from mass?
[04:48:36] <+Merthsoft> totally shunned from him family
[04:48:38] <+Merthsoft> erm
[04:48:40] <+Merthsoft> community i mean
[04:49:01] < Hunterkll> That's completely fucked up and goes against what most of roman catholicisim is all about
[04:49:05] <+Merthsoft> i know
[04:50:10] < Hunterkll> And you can RESOLVE (aka get removed) an excomm in the catholic church
[04:50:11] < Spengo> these are exceptions in other religions, but in scientology it's common
[04:50:26] <+Merthsoft> well that sucks
[04:50:28] <+Merthsoft> don't join
[04:50:33] < Spengo> exactly
[04:50:49] <+Nikky> I agree
[04:50:54] < Hunterkll> And give the tax benifits that the Church of Scientology has to other churches too!
[04:50:54] <+Nikky> Who cares what other people do
[04:50:59] <+BrandonW> Nihilist
[04:51:07] <+Nikky> ASMilst
[04:51:31] <+BrandonW> Oh yes, I worship the great and powerful NOP.
[04:51:46] <+Nikky> And yes, I am a nihilist :(
[04:51:49] <+Nikky> *snuggles*
[04:51:49] < Hunterkll> and excommunicated Catholics are still under obligation to attend Mass, even though they are barred from receiving the Eucharist or even taking active part in the liturgy (reading, bringing the offerings, etc.).[2] Indeed, the excommunicant is encouraged to retain some relationship with the Church, as the goal is to encourage them to repent and return to active participation in its life.
[04:51:54] <+Merthsoft> it's like suicide cults. If they want to believe that when they kill themselves they're gonna transport into a spaceship that lives in the tail of a commit, fuckin' let them
[04:52:06] <+Nikky> Or Charlie Manson!
[04:52:08] <+Nikky> \o/
[04:52:11] <+Merthsoft> Hunterkll: I know the way it works
[04:52:13] < Hunterkll> Yea
[04:52:15] < Hunterkll> But!
[04:52:23] < Hunterkll> Suicide cults aren't tax exempt
[04:52:24] <+Nikky> I vote we excommunicate Hunterkll 
[04:52:26] <+Nikky> from #tcpa
[04:52:30] <+Nikky> ALl in favor?
[04:52:37] <+Merthsoft> aye
[04:52:39] <+Nikky> \o_
[04:52:44] <+Merthsoft> ok, so fix the tax exempts
[04:52:58] <+Merthsoft> no reason to go out with a faggy little mask and protest the whole religion
[04:53:03] <+Nikky> Then Hunterkll will find something else to bitch about
[04:53:08] < Hunterkll> THAT'S JUST IT!
[04:53:12] <+Nikky> lol, Hunterkll was a mask wearer?
[04:53:14] <+Nikky> haw haw
[04:53:16] < Hunterkll> We're NOT protesting the religion!
[04:53:19] <+Nikky> fag
[04:53:27] <@Andy_J> Nikky: well, he'll still be encouraged to actively participate
[04:53:32] <@Andy_J> so I fail to see what that would gain us.
[04:53:32] <+Merthsoft> Nikky: But if he kills himself, then we should be shut down
[04:53:33] < Hunterkll> we're protesting the actions of the organization and the status it gets 
[04:53:46] <+Nikky> Andy_J: :)
[04:53:50] <+Merthsoft> the only problem i see to far is the tax exemption
[04:53:57] < Hunterkll> And I don't wear masks
[04:53:58] <@Andy_J> scientology?
[04:54:00] <+Merthsoft> no need for your faggy little masks and your mass protests
[04:54:12] < Hunterkll> Merthsoft: And the RPF (Rehabilitation Project Force)
[04:54:16] <+Nikky> Yes, Hunterkll was going off on some drunken rant about how horrible scientology is
[04:54:23] < Hunterkll> basicly slave labor camps in the US
[04:54:45] <+Nikky> So?
[04:55:11] <@Andy_J> On the one hand, I'm impressed that Anonymous pulled it off.
[04:55:16] <@Andy_J> On the other hand, I couldn't care less.
[04:55:18] < Hunterkll> illegal imprisonment isn't bad?
[04:55:20] <+Nikky> Andy_J: They're all diggtards.
[04:55:27] <+Nikky> Diggtards have no life
[04:55:29] <@Andy_J> Nikky: You mean /b/tards
[04:55:35] <+Nikky> and do whatever the top digg stories do
[04:55:45] <+Nikky> Andy_J: Most of the protestors were diggtards
[04:55:57] < Hunterkll> Andy_J: Everyone says i'm from /b/ and I don't visit chan sites.. heh
[04:56:03] <+bsparks> how does one uninstall a package in ubuntu? :( I installed libticables2-1 by accident instead of libticables3
[04:56:13] <@Andy_J> apt-get UNinstall maybe? >_>
[04:56:18] <+Nikky> bsparks: apt-get remove package-name
[04:56:19] < Hunterkll> Well, I visit futaba channel, but they .... don't really care about all this
[04:56:39] <@Andy_J> don't lie, you lurk chansluts all day >_>
[04:56:45] <+Nikky> He does
[04:56:54] <+Merthsoft> must be the most sensible chan out there
[04:56:54] < Hunterkll> What's worse
[04:56:59] < Hunterkll> that andy goes there
[04:57:07] <@Andy_J> I don't go to any of the chans.
[04:57:07] < Hunterkll> or that I had to google to find out what chansluts was
[04:57:19] <@Andy_J> I find that hard to belive.
[04:57:22] <@Andy_J> Believe, even.
[04:57:30] < Hunterkll> I've been to fapchan
[04:57:34] < Hunterkll> but not chansluts
[04:57:44] <+Merthsoft> i think Hunterkll is 15
[04:57:51] <+Merthsoft> and impressionable
[04:57:53] < Hunterkll> And latest safari build gets 92/100 on acid3, yay
[04:58:02] < Hunterkll> I'm 19
[04:58:06] <+Merthsoft> perfect candidate for scientology, go sign up
[04:58:07] < Hunterkll> And did research
[04:58:09] <+Nikky> Hunterkll: f*p is a banned word here
[04:58:16] <+Merthsoft> yeah, no fap
[04:58:17] < Hunterkll> No, no it's not.
[04:58:24] <+Nikky> Yes, it is
[04:58:32] <+Nikky> it's immature and diggtardish
[04:58:48] < Hunterkll> and fapchan is the NAME OF THE WEBSITE
[04:58:55] <+Nikky> You said it!
[04:58:59] < Hunterkll> ....
[04:59:02] <+Nikky> Ban him Andy_J!
[04:59:06] <+Nikky> I
[04:59:09] <+Nikky> 'm voiced so I can't
[04:59:12] <@Andy_J> Nay, thee.
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[05:01:20] <+Nikky> Hi smealum 
[05:01:35] <+Merthsoft> ok, i'm bored now
[05:01:37] < Randomist> What's the opposite of chr() in PHP?
[05:01:42] <+Merthsoft> good night
[05:01:46] <+Merthsoft> ()rhc
[05:01:46] <+Nikky> !chr()
[05:02:05] < Randomist> Never mind.
[05:02:08] <+Nikky> haha
[05:02:15] <+Merthsoft> <3 Nikky 
[05:02:31] <+Merthsoft> good night
[05:03:03] <+Nikky> !qadd < Randomist> What's the opposite of chr() in PHP? <+Merthsoft> ()rhc <+Nikky> !chr() < Randomist> Never mind.
[05:03:04] <@efneTI86> Quote 1224 added
[05:03:07] <+Nikky> goodnight Merthsoft!
[05:04:00] <@Andy_J> Randomist: uh
[05:04:05] <@Andy_J> Look it up in the reference manual.
[05:04:09] <@Andy_J> Seriously.
[05:04:16] <@Andy_J> Why would you NOT do that before asking?
[05:04:22] <@Andy_J> http://us3.php.net/chr
[05:04:30] <@Andy_J> I quote:
[05:04:33] <@Andy_J> Returns a one-character string containing the character specified by ascii . 
[05:04:37] <@Andy_J> >>>> This function complements ord(). <<<<
[05:04:42] <@Andy_J> Emphasis mine.
[05:04:46] <+Nikky> ^
[05:04:50] <@Andy_J> /rant
[05:06:40] <+BrandonW> I didn't know the answer either and went to php.net.
[05:06:45] <+BrandonW> Guess I overlooked it.
[05:06:47] <+BrandonW> People do that, you know...
[05:06:50] <+BrandonW> They're not perfect like you.
[05:06:52] <+BrandonW> So die.
[05:07:50] <+Nikky> :(
[05:08:05] <@Andy_J> His exact question was answered on the page describing the function he knew the name of.
[05:08:16] <@Andy_J> I don't see how it can be a stretch to expect him to look it up first.
[05:10:28] <+BrandonW> It wasn't, but again, things can be overlooked.
[05:10:33] <+BrandonW> I did it.
[05:10:35] <+BrandonW> He did it, too.
[05:10:51] <+BrandonW> Barrett's the one you should bitch to about not looking up things.
[05:10:53] <+BrandonW> Randomist actually tries.
[05:11:59] <+Nikky> I agree with BrandonW 
[05:12:04] <+Nikky> Randomist does try
[05:12:09] <+chronomex> stop pinging me!
[05:12:11] <+Nikky> and I hear he picked up on ASM pretty quickly
[05:12:22] <+BrandonW> Yes, I'm impressed.
[05:19:56]  * Randomist kicks Firefox and goes back to Opera.
[05:20:11] <+Nikky> Excellent choice sir
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[05:27:47] <+Nikky> Oh, you're back
[05:27:48] <@efneTI86> [PatrickD] The TI-85 shall reign supreme, always and forever
[05:27:56] < PatrickD> did anything intresting happen while I was gone?
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[05:28:08] <+Nikky> Kevin_O sent us death threats
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[05:28:30] <+Nikky> ANd we still hate the nspire
[05:28:31] <+Nikky> :)
[05:29:55] < PatrickD> hmmm ... kevin_o, who was that?
[05:30:12] <+Nikky> And we got a kickass website
[05:30:20]  * Randomist goes away to figure out how to convert input from whatever encoding they're in to ASCII.
[05:30:32] <+Nikky> And Randomist here is successfully learning z80 ASM
[05:30:35] <+Nikky> Isn't he
[05:31:13] <+Nikky> Where have you been, PatrickD?
[05:31:38] < PatrickD> isn't it obvious?
[05:31:51] <+Nikky> Kenya?
[05:31:54] < PatrickD> I had joined a sinister religious cult and they wouldn't let me out of their compound for even a minute
[05:32:06] <+Nikky> We were just talking about Scientology.
[05:35:08] <+BrandonW> Didn't you have some health problems, PatrickD? How's all that going?
[05:35:22] < PatrickD> well, I am still alive
[05:35:41] < PatrickD> actually I'm more or less ok
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[05:46:29] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!!
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[05:47:16] <+Sir_Lewk> netsplit much?
[05:48:34] <+chronomex> epic
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[05:50:51] <+Sir_Lewk> http://www.tinyghosts.com/archive/tinyghosts131.html
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[05:58:06] < Randomist> Uh-oh... I sure hope the encoding on all .lrc files are the same in the database...
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[06:12:13] < loazaas> Help. >_>
[06:12:22] < loazaas> I'm trying to use...
[06:12:33] < loazaas> A Box and Whisker Plot.
[06:12:43] < loazaas> TI-84.
[06:13:09] <+chronomex> I don't think anyone's able to help you right now
[06:13:13] <+chronomex> I'm about to go to bed myself
[06:13:31] < loazaas> Meh.  I got the data filled in... everything to the last few parts.
[06:13:43] < DarkAuron> I don't even know what a 'box and whisker' plot is
[06:13:44] < loazaas> Would you be willing to help me before you goes to bed? 
[06:13:55] <+chronomex> no, I don't even have an 83-series calc
[06:14:21] < loazaas> Ah-ha.  Alrigh.  Night then.
[06:17:41] <+ports> DarkAuron, box and whisker plots are great
[06:18:28] < DarkAuron> That tells me nothing. :P
[06:18:29] <+ports> basically shows you the average, and 1st, an 3rd quadrants, and the min/max
[06:18:37] <+bsparks> f'in... Metroid for the 83, is so kickass it is unbeliveable
[06:18:52] < DarkAuron> bsparks: ?
[06:19:04] <+ports> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Box_plot
[06:19:19] < DarkAuron> oh that
[06:19:31] <+bsparks> DarkAuron, I am going through files, and I seem to have METROID.83p, i.e. Metroid for the 83, in ASM, kickass
[06:19:49] < DarkAuron> sic's?
[06:19:59] <+bsparks> yeah
[06:20:11] < DarkAuron> I've got the source in a rar 
[06:22:57] < DarkAuron> too lazy to run it through an assembler though
[06:24:22] < loazaas> Lol.  Ya.
[06:24:32] < loazaas> I don't know how to assemble one on the calculator. :-\
[06:26:49] <+ports> DarkAuron, get what a box and whisker plot is now?
[06:27:26] < loazaas> ports: Do you by any chance know how to walk through the graph of a 'box and whisker' plot?
[06:27:30] <+ports> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/89/Boxplot_vs_PDF.png
[06:27:35] <+ports> loazaas, walk through?
[06:28:04] < loazaas> Yes.  I'm trying to use it on the calculator.  I fed all the data in and well.. set it up in the type. 
[06:28:18] <+ports> what calculator
[06:28:25] < loazaas> TI-84 PLUS.
[06:28:50] < loazaas> STAT --> 1: EDIT --> L1 (Put all data in) --> CALC --> STAT PLOT --> I'm not sure now.
[06:28:51] <+ports> and your using the Stat program?
[06:29:01] <+ports> yes
[06:29:02] <+ports> here
[06:29:08] <+ports> http://www.okc.cc.ok.us/statistics/StatPDF/descrpstat.pdf
[06:29:34] <+ports> thats got really nice instructions
[06:33:43] < loazaas> How do I turn off the PlotsOn in Stat Plots 5th?
[06:33:55] < loazaas> I'm getting there.  (Lot of stuffs, lol).
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[06:37:49] < glk> My url has much TI-89 data, some useful to other calculators. http://grahamkendall.net/  in Math
[06:41:17] < loazaas> ports: Thanks.  I'll be going now.
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[07:23:36] <@efneTI86> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[08:11:38] <@efneTI86> [Leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
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[08:21:44] <@efneTI86> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[08:33:50] < nicolas> morning lads
[08:33:57] <+bsparks> heya
[08:34:33] < nicolas> wassup in the land of #tcpa?
[08:34:43] < DarkAuron> emptiness
[08:34:59] < nicolas> nothing new then :P
[08:35:01] <+bsparks> I am having fun with a game from 2005 I forgot I made
[08:35:37] < nicolas> which game?
[08:36:04] <+bsparks> a crappy BASIC block dude clone
[08:36:06] <+bsparks> but
[08:36:11] <+bsparks> as I am finding out
[08:36:20] <+bsparks> I put in hidden levels, and secret codes o.o
[08:36:35] < nicolas> ooh
[08:37:26] < nicolas> block dude, I loved that game
[08:38:06] < nicolas> was quite frustrating in the later levels when trying to just go quick i'd press the wrong key and drop a block at the wrong moment :P
[08:38:26] <+bsparks> this one doesn't have that issue... but
[08:38:28] <+bsparks> I mean
[08:38:40] <+bsparks> I have a code to make everything solid, into movable blocks
[08:38:47] <+bsparks> or the ability to create blocks
[08:38:57] <+bsparks> or no gravity
[08:40:01] <+bsparks> it is really one of my poorer written games... but... hot damn
[08:44:31] <+bsparks> ok, sleep time
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[10:40:03] <+BrandonW> Check one from Duncan Smith, AKA chronomex, for $7.
[11:11:48] < al_busy> BrandonW
[11:12:06] < al_busy> have TI employees really said that they will never allow native code?
[11:12:16] < al_busy> why on earth not?
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[12:21:12] <+BrandonW> al_busy: yes, really. Why? Because they're idiots.
[12:21:35] <+BrandonW> They just want to keep their hold over it.
[12:21:40] <+BrandonW> Probably in case they want to have paid apps.
[12:21:52] <+BrandonW> They put a lot of time and money into this project.
[12:22:00] <+BrandonW> They probably expect it to stay around for a long time.
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[12:24:54] <@efneTI86> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[12:44:39] <@efneTI86> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[12:45:23] < aceofspad> heya
[12:45:39] < aceofspad> anyone have a ti-nspire?
[12:45:43] <+BrandonW> Yes.
[12:45:47] <+BrandonW> Unfortunately.
[12:45:55] < aceofspad> cas?
[12:46:00] <+BrandonW> Ordered, not here yet.
[12:46:05] <+BrandonW> I have the Nspire with me.
[12:46:12] < aceofspad> nspire cas?
[12:46:28] <+BrandonW> I just said I have the Nspire CAS ordered, but it's not here yet.
[12:46:31] <+BrandonW> I do have an Nspire with me.
[12:46:40] < aceofspad> do u have ti089?
[12:46:47] < aceofspad> *ti-89?
[12:46:55] <+BrandonW> Yes, I have them all.
[12:47:02] < aceofspad> oh cool
[12:47:08] < aceofspad> do u know any good cas guides
[12:47:27] <+BrandonW> No. The Nspire CAS is a terrible calculator.
[12:47:29] < aceofspad> me and my friends all got the nspire cas and its exactly the same as ti89
[12:47:35] <+BrandonW> If the manual doesn't tell you, you're out of luck.
[12:47:46] < aceofspad> well do u have any cas guides for the 89?
[12:47:57] <+BrandonW> Have you read the manual?
[12:48:14] <+BrandonW> I'm not sure what you mean by CAS guide.
[12:48:21] <+BrandonW> The manual can tell you everything you want to know about how the CAS works.
[12:48:36] <+BrandonW> I don't know of anything else online that explains it differently.
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[12:51:00] < aceofspad> ok?
[12:51:03] <+BrandonW> ok?
[12:51:07] <+Merthsoft> ok?
[12:51:10] < aceofspad> so do u know of an in depth cas guide
[12:51:15] < aceofspad> for 89
[12:51:18] <+BrandonW> What do you mean by "CAS guide"?
[12:51:32] < aceofspad> i dunno something that teaches me how to use the cas properly
[12:51:44] <+BrandonW> Read the manual.
[12:51:54] <+BrandonW> It is the only thing out there that explains how basic 89 features work.
[12:51:55] <+BrandonW> Which that is.
[12:52:35] < aceofspad> ok
[12:52:45] < aceofspad> so the 89 manual is pretty good
[12:52:50] < aceofspad> ok ill just read that
[12:52:53] <+BrandonW> Yes, the full one, from education.ti.com.
[12:52:59] < aceofspad> ok thanks dude
[12:54:15] < aceofspad> wish me luck 
[12:54:25] < aceofspad> oh and is there any progrmas for the nspire?
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[12:56:16] <+BrandonW> No.
[12:56:19] <+BrandonW> And there won't be.
[12:56:26] < aceofspad> damn ...none at all
[12:56:27] <+BrandonW> Which is why it's a terrible calculator.
[12:56:29] < aceofspad> ass holes
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[12:56:41] <+BrandonW> If you can take it back to where you bought it, I recommend doing that.
[12:56:43] < aceofspad> hopefully there will be some mod chip are something :P
[12:56:46] <+BrandonW> It never should have been released.
[12:56:58] < aceofspad> that would be rad
[12:57:03] < aceofspad> yea i have the 89
[12:57:09] < aceofspad> its much better frankely
[12:57:10] <+BrandonW> Tell your friends, too.
[12:57:18] <+BrandonW> I think I'm going to officially boycott it.
[12:57:19] < aceofspad> but i gave my 89 to my friend
[12:57:21] <+BrandonW> And put up a page on it.
[12:57:35] < aceofspad> well i like the ti-nspire
[12:57:41] < aceofspad> cause ofthe keys
[12:57:46] <+BrandonW> The keys are terrible.
[12:57:47] < aceofspad> but eh its a pain in the ass
[12:57:55] < aceofspad> i like it
[12:57:57] <+BrandonW> There's nothing good at all about either one.
[12:58:03] < aceofspad> its the closest to a querty keyboard
[12:58:16] <+BrandonW> If you want a QWERTY keyboard, go with a Voyage 200 or 92/92+.
[12:58:25] < aceofspad> but of course querty boards are banned everywhere
[12:58:45] < aceofspad> nah qwertys are not allowed anywhere
[12:58:58] <+BrandonW> CASes aren't allowed in some places, either.
[12:59:31] < aceofspad> eh i got a dremel
[12:59:36] < aceofspad> and sanded off CAS
[12:59:44] <+BrandonW> ...
[12:59:47] <+BrandonW> It's still a different color.
[12:59:50] < aceofspad> i know
[12:59:54] <+BrandonW> Anyone who knows anything about either calculator would notice that.
[13:00:00] < aceofspad> i know hat
[13:00:14] <+BrandonW> So why did you do it?
[13:00:14] < aceofspad> but i am not dealing with anyone who knows that much LOL
[13:00:33] <+Merthsoft> what's the screen command for a new window?
[13:00:39] <+BrandonW> And what happens when they try to slide in an 84+SE keypad?
[13:00:46] < aceofspad> well because my mathteacher doesnt realy care and as long as he doesnt see the cas he doesnt know what it can do
[13:00:51] < aceofspad> .....huH?
[13:00:57] < aceofspad> noone has nspires
[13:01:06] < aceofspad> most people are using 84s
[13:01:20] <+BrandonW> The Nspire can be locked to only be an 84+SE.
[13:01:26] < aceofspad> i know that
[13:01:48] < aceofspad> but me and my friends are the only ones with nspires in the school
[13:02:03] < aceofspad> ive never even seen a blue nspire
[13:02:41] < aceofspad> so eh...
[13:02:46] <+BrandonW> And yet you knew they could be locked to 84+SE-only?
[13:02:47] < aceofspad> doenst really matter
[13:02:53] <+BrandonW> I didn't think anyone knew that.
[13:02:57] < aceofspad> yes
[13:03:06] < aceofspad> i know that its on the tinspire page
[13:03:17] < aceofspad> the nspire is comelyly gimped
[13:03:17] <+BrandonW> Locked to it so that you can't slide in the Nspire keypad and use it?
[13:03:23] < aceofspad> why would anyone get it?
[13:03:31] < aceofspad> i know that
[13:03:35] <+BrandonW> There's no reason to get either Nspire.
[13:03:38] <+BrandonW> It was a question.
[13:03:44] < aceofspad> it says that on the site
[13:04:00] < aceofspad> well its just monronic to get the regualr one
[13:04:03] < aceofspad> its an 84 with more specs
[13:04:04] < aceofspad> lol
[13:04:15] <+BrandonW> Well, you at least get an 84+SE out of it.
[13:04:17] < aceofspad> but in hienzsight ei-89 is better
[13:04:19] <+BrandonW> The Nspire CAS gives you nothing.
[13:04:32] < aceofspad> well ive done ok on a few tests with it
[13:04:46] < aceofspad> and i type down my chem notes on it
[13:05:05] <+BrandonW> Where on the site does it say you can lock it to the 84+SE keypad only?
[13:05:09] < aceofspad> my friendaced a test with solely the cas
[13:05:20] < aceofspad> um it just has a picture of a keyboard
[13:05:28] < aceofspad> and it said all the things teachers can do
[13:05:33] < aceofspad> like the testing light
[13:05:35] < aceofspad> and stuff
[13:05:43] < aceofspad> but the cas doesnt have any of that
[13:06:28] < aceofspad> but the regular nspire is a flaming pile of shit for a student to buy. i would rather get an 84plus
[13:06:58] <+BrandonW> And why's that?
[13:07:40] < aceofspad> because u can disable everything
[13:07:55] <+BrandonW> We can get around it.
[13:07:56] < aceofspad> u can make it so people cant view or use programs and thus u cant see notes
[13:08:06] < aceofspad> i know but why even do that
[13:08:09] <+BrandonW> We've been able to get around that for ages.
[13:08:14] < aceofspad> well dah
[13:08:24] <+BrandonW> Well, it's no different than a real 84+SE.
[13:08:41] < aceofspad> but the other cacls u dont have to get around anything
[13:08:45] < aceofspad> :P
[13:08:46] <+BrandonW> Of course you do.
[13:08:51] <+BrandonW> Press-to-Test is on every 84+SE with OS 2.40 or higher.
[13:09:00] < aceofspad> ive never even heard of that
[13:09:11] < aceofspad> so neither has my math teacher LOL
[13:09:18] <+BrandonW> That's the disabling thing you're talking about.
[13:09:37] < aceofspad> yea but its still not as easy and advertised as the nsprie
[13:09:47] < aceofspad> and noones knows aobut
[13:09:58] <+BrandonW> Anyone who learns about it will find that it works on both calculators.
[13:11:28] < aceofspad> eh watever
[13:11:30] < aceofspad> look i dont care about all that
[13:11:37] < aceofspad> cause neither does are math teacher
[13:11:45] < al_busy> I can't believe no-one has found an exploit in the nSpire OS yet
[13:11:50] < aceofspad> i know
[13:11:59] < aceofspad> theres gotta be sme exploits
[13:12:00] < al_busy> or is there just not enough interest for people to bother looking?
[13:12:03] <+BrandonW> http://brandonw.net/nspire.php
[13:12:12] <+BrandonW> I'm looking, but it's not easy.
[13:12:16] <+BrandonW> We can't look at any of the code.
[13:12:18] < al_busy> BrandonW: I've seen your page
[13:12:20] <+BrandonW> We're working blind.
[13:12:24] < al_busy> I'm still calling it an nSpire
[13:12:32] <+BrandonW> Have fun being wrong.
[13:12:33] < al_busy> cos it looks cooler
[13:12:38] < al_busy> BrandonW: I don't care
[13:12:57] <+BrandonW> There are a couple of others looking into it.
[13:13:01] < aceofspad> lol who cares
[13:13:13] <+BrandonW> They were able to connect to a diagnostic port on it and read the logs of it booting.
[13:13:14] < aceofspad> i dunno i already bought the thing
[13:13:15] <+BrandonW> But that's about it.
[13:13:20] <@E-J> everything is different at down under
[13:13:21] < aceofspad> i mind as wlel figrue out how to use it
[13:13:24] < al_busy> eh? what kind of port?
[13:13:26] < al_busy> JTAG?
[13:13:29] <+BrandonW> It's not JTAG.
[13:13:31] <@E-J> even writing
[13:13:33] <+BrandonW> You'd have to read the wiki.
[13:13:34] < al_busy> bugger
[13:13:45] < aceofspad> usomeone should make a modchip
[13:13:49] < al_busy> the HP's have a JTAG on them
[13:13:50] < nicolas> aceofspad: you "mind as wlel" learn to write (and type?) properly!
[13:13:53] < aceofspad> they would make so much money
[13:13:58] < al_busy> nah, a hardware solution is utterly useless
[13:14:06] < al_busy> no-one would rish applying it
[13:14:08] < aceofspad> ....um go to h*** grammar nazi
[13:14:17] < al_busy> since when is hell a swear word?
[13:14:27] < aceofspad> well i *** it
[13:14:34] < al_busy> fair enough
[13:14:35] < aceofspad> dont wont to get kicked or anything
[13:14:56] < al_busy> back in the days when this channel was under MV's harsh regieme, you may have been
[13:14:58] < nicolas> aceofspad: I'm not a grammar nazi, just suggesting ways for you to express yourself more clearly for us to understand what you really want to say :D
[13:15:03] < al_busy> but his reign of terror is over
[13:15:07] < aceofspad> but i hate people who harp well every typo
[13:15:30] < aceofspad> its called typing fast and some poeple when they get 2 hours of sleep do them sometimes
[13:15:41] <+BrandonW> al_busy: yes, all of you broke him.
[13:15:43] <+BrandonW> He's a broken man.
[13:15:46] <+BrandonW> Hasn't touched a calculator in ages.
[13:15:47] <@E-J> aceofspad: i would take it as 1st step to suicide if frenchman would say me that i should write properly (if i would speak english as my first language)
[13:16:07] < al_busy> don't blame me, I haven't spoken to him in years
[13:16:14] < aceofspad> ok ok whatever. wherent we talking about calculators
[13:16:21] < nicolas> E-J: muahaha, imagine me correcting your Finnish, now THAT would be disgraceful :P
[13:16:41] < al_busy> sheesh if I were an nSpire engineer I'd be watching forums with interesting, seeing what hacks someone could do to my baby
[13:16:47] <@E-J> nicolas: indeed :)
[13:16:54] <+BrandonW> al_busy: they do.
[13:16:58] < aceofspad> what does the debate over the grammar on IRC have to do with how good the nSpire is
[13:16:58] <+BrandonW> There's an inner circle.
[13:17:02] < nicolas> BrandonW: yeah, well you know, unfortunately lots of us don't have time to touch calculators anymore... especially not in the naughty places
[13:17:21] < al_busy> and no-one wants to accidently post a possible exploit? :/
[13:17:28] <+BrandonW> Yes.
[13:17:29] <@E-J> maybe even more disgraceful than asmand correcting
[13:17:32] <+BrandonW> Although I've done it in this channel.
[13:17:39] <+BrandonW> Why, I'll do it again right now!
[13:17:53] < al_busy> hah, let me dig up a great old usenet post
[13:17:55] <+BrandonW> http://rafb.net/p/CEwm9958.html
[13:18:39] < al_busy> the hell? is that what I think it is?
[13:18:49] < al_busy> eg, could I brick an nspire?
[13:18:59] < aceofspad> ah :P
[13:19:03] <+BrandonW> No, you could overwrite the 84+SE OS, though. Which they don't normalyl allow.
[13:19:03] < aceofspad> that looks nice
[13:19:05] <+BrandonW> normally*
[13:19:17] < aceofspad> but thats for regular nspire
[13:19:20] <+BrandonW> Both OSes are loaded into RAM. Overwriting it won't hurt anything.
[13:19:27] <+BrandonW> Next time you boot with a new keypad, your changes go away.
[13:19:46] <+BrandonW> But it paves the way for OS patches and stuff.
[13:19:57] < aceofspad> sweet dude
[13:20:03] < al_busy> oh. I know nothing about it really
[13:20:04] < aceofspad> see now thats what im talking about
[13:20:14] < aceofspad> there is a ton of owner of the npsire 
[13:20:21] < al_busy> the whole HP thing started with the lead engineer posting this: http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.sys.hp48/browse_frm/thread/e556f2fcc4d7400b/8df3f3df83dcf39d#8df3f3df83dcf39d
[13:20:28] < aceofspad> and  although it may have sucked
[13:20:32] <+BrandonW> The only reason I have it is to break it. As a calculator, it's a piece of junk. The others feel the same way.
[13:20:36] < al_busy> then he sat back and had fun watching people figure out how it worked
[13:20:39] < aceofspad> we spend 150 bucks and mind as wlel use it
[13:22:10] < aceofspad> so anyone know of a crack for the software?
[13:22:18] <+BrandonW> What software?
[13:22:19] < aceofspad> i cnat find one
[13:22:27] < aceofspad> the ti nspire cas computer software
[13:22:31] <+BrandonW> There is no crack.
[13:22:52] < aceofspad> damn really?
[13:22:57] < al_busy> damn you've almost gotten me interested enough to buy one, just to try and crack it
[13:22:58] < aceofspad> i refuse to believe that lol :P
[13:23:00] <+BrandonW> Yeah, really.
[13:23:02] < al_busy> I need a good challenge
[13:23:16] < aceofspad> imo theyve cracked everyything
[13:23:20] <+BrandonW> al_busy: we can crash it through the link protocol, but without a dump of any of the code, who knows what we're doing.
[13:23:33] < aceofspad> heck i have some pretty stupidly trivial cracked programs
[13:24:00] < aceofspad> i think someone shoul make a thing that onnects to the link
[13:24:07] < aceofspad> and hacks the calc
[13:24:22] < aceofspad> im sure college students would pay 80 bucks for it
[13:25:17] < aceofspad> u could make it in a factory in china 
[13:25:33] < aceofspad> and ur set
[13:25:34] < aceofspad> sell it on dealextreme 
[13:25:37] < al_busy> aceofspad: who, exactly, would pay for it?
[13:25:50] < al_busy> you would never, ever, make a profit on it
[13:25:52] < aceofspad> a college student wanted to crack their nspire :P
[13:25:59] < aceofspad> *wanting
[13:26:15] < aceofspad> why not
[13:26:22] < aceofspad> the wiikey team made a ton of money
[13:26:26] < al_busy> looking at it from a business perspective, a development engineers time is worth what, at least 80 bucks an hour?
[13:26:59] < al_busy> theres a lot more wiis out there then nspires
[13:27:02] < aceofspad> well if a bunch of college students do it
[13:27:14] < al_busy> then it becomes a labor of love
[13:27:27] < al_busy> because at the end of the day, you'd earn more sweeping the floor at mcdonalds
[13:27:28] < aceofspad> and?
[13:27:41] < aceofspad> rpobobly not
[13:27:44] < aceofspad> people would do anything to get an
[13:27:48] < aceofspad> a
[13:28:13] < al_busy> aceofspad: how many commercial electronics projects have you worked out out of curiosity?
[13:28:33] < aceofspad> none just being hypotheticla LOL
[13:28:57] < al_busy> if you put an honest figure on the time spent it'd be massive. And not really much of a market at the end of it
[13:29:09] < al_busy> you'd do it for the love of it only, not for any financial reasons
[13:29:15] < aceofspad> watever i gotta go LOL
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[13:29:22] < al_busy> toodles
[13:34:52] < nicolas> i'll give him the benefit of the doubt cause he said he had little sleep
[13:36:33] <+BrandonW> I wouldn't.
[13:37:02] <@E-J> english was worse than hunterkll's
[13:37:25] <+BrandonW> Maybe I'll work on the nSpire some when I get home.
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[13:37:28] < nicolas> well, he is on the low end of the scale... just giving him that half a chance
[13:37:37] < nicolas> BrandonW: it's Nspire!!!!
[13:37:39] < nicolas> :P
[13:37:41] <@E-J> BrandonW: freudian slip?
[13:37:45] <+BrandonW> I tried, I just can't do it.
[13:37:46] <+BrandonW> Nspire*
[13:50:51] < al_busy> admit it to yourself
[13:50:56] < al_busy> nSpire sounds cooler
[13:51:02] < al_busy> just accept it
[13:51:24] < i_c-Y> lost is your soul.
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[13:54:13] <@E-J> maybe "ns Pire" would be best, ns from finnish as acronym for niin sanottu (= so called) and pire from french (accoding to my dictionary worse or worst, nicolas can correct me if i'm wrong)
[13:56:17] < i_c-Y> we need to coin it a new name
[13:56:21] < i_c-Y> a name of fear
[13:56:25] < i_c-Y> how about nStalin?
[13:56:45] <@E-J> nBush
[13:56:58] < i_c-Y> nah, then it would blow yo' ass up
[13:57:51] <@E-J> nOmnimaga
[13:58:24] < i_c-Y> haha
[13:58:54] < i_c-Y> JUST FUCKIN STOP JUST FUCKIN STOP TI YOURE GOING TO STOP NOT LETTING ME PROGRAM JUST FUCKIN STOP JUST FUCKIN STOP
[14:00:15] < nSpire> the hell?
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[14:00:59] <@E-J> al_busy: kevin_O acts like that nowdays
[14:01:28] <@E-J> you say wrong word and then "JUST ..." flood
[14:03:45] < i_c-Y> its okay though. me and kevin are homies. 
[14:08:41] < nicolas> E-J: your dictionary is indeed correct
[14:16:17] <@E-J> http://havenworks.com/
[14:17:12] < nicolas> what a nice site!
[14:21:37] < i_c-Y> what the fux
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[14:23:27] <@efneTI86> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[14:38:03] <@efneTI86> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[14:42:07] < i_c-Y> zounds
[14:44:48] < Spengo> wat, stupid bots
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[14:58:13] < nicolas> *yaawn*
[14:58:16]  * nicolas is bored
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[15:10:22] <+patz2009> nicolas: Welcome to #tcpa.
[15:11:05] <@Andy_J> !qfind yawm
[15:11:07] <@efneTI86> No matches
[15:11:10] <@Andy_J> Boo.
[15:12:09] <+patz2009> !qfind yawn
[15:12:11] <@efneTI86> No matches
[15:12:13] <+patz2009> awdang
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[15:13:09] <+patz2009> yay netsplat
[15:21:05] < i_c-Y> dont you have school, patz2009 ?
[15:21:12] <+patz2009> spring break
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[15:21:22] < i_c-Y> oh right youre from tn
[15:21:29] <+patz2009> yeah
[15:21:40] <+patz2009> the best state in the nation!
[15:21:44] <+patz2009> </sarcasm>
[15:24:03] <@Andy_J> hey, we have our spring break this week, too
[15:24:27] < i_c-Y> so do we
[15:30:51] < nicolas> patz2009: welcome to you to #tcpa :D
[15:31:14] < nicolas> we have no spring break!
[15:31:16] < nicolas> we're leeter
[15:32:34] < nicolas> wait. io
[15:32:42] < nicolas> I'm at work, I lose
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[15:34:30]  * nicolas shouts and listens to the echo
[15:34:43]  * nicolas quacks and hears nothing...
[15:34:56] <@Andy_J> Myth.
[15:35:13] < nicolas> Myther! i'm not a duck, and I still quack!
[15:35:14] <+patz2009> You're on IRC at work? :o
[15:35:22] < nicolas> patz2009: yup
[15:35:26] <@Andy_J> Who isn't?
[15:35:42] <@Andy_J> I would be if I would go to work today but I'm not going to.
[15:35:46] < nicolas> Andy_J: all of those who commited suicide :P
[15:35:47] <@Andy_J> Too much work to do on projects
[15:36:18] < nicolas> Andy_J: hah, i've got too much work to do on projects too.. but thye're FOR work :-/
[15:36:54] < nicolas> the worse part is I can't even be bothered to do them... working on shitty old java apps is no fun, this is worse than spaghetti code
[15:38:27] < nicolas> pfft. o
[15:38:33] < nicolas> aargh, stupid keyboard
[15:38:41] < nicolas> I'm already on overtime right now too
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[15:41:25] < nicolas> hey ben
[15:41:39] <@benryves> 'lo nicolas
[15:41:43] < i_c-Y> hi ben >:(
[15:41:49] <@benryves> Heya i_c-Y
[15:41:57] < i_c-Y> sup :)
[15:41:57] < nicolas> i_c-Y: what's the frowning for ?
[15:42:23] < i_c-Y> dunno.
[15:42:27] <@benryves> i_c-Y: No more BSODs, hopefully, the video card finally died completely :\
[15:42:34] <@benryves> You?
[15:42:37] < i_c-Y> o.0
[15:42:43] < i_c-Y> spring break
[15:42:54] < i_c-Y> going to finish up the hw and probably program some stuff.
[15:43:49] <@benryves> (Some cruddy 7300 LE, I keep coming back to a machine with a BSOD referring to a nvidia driver. Happened today, switched back on again, can't get any video output whatsoever).
[15:44:15] < nicolas> i_c-Y: err.. aren't you supposed to be going on a trip and get completely wasted and have wild sex with loose girls ?
[15:44:22] < nicolas> I thought that's what spring break was all about
[15:44:28] < i_c-Y> not if you go to cooper union :(
[15:44:41] < i_c-Y> thats for normal people schools.
[15:44:54] < nicolas> just gatecrash some other spring breaks?
[15:45:05] < nicolas> why, cooper union is for "not normal" people ?
[15:45:07] <@benryves> i_c-Y: Your plan sounds more fun anyway.
[15:45:15] < nicolas> benryves: lies!
[15:45:23] < i_c-Y> benryves: cant you try running your x1300 in there?
[15:45:27] <@benryves> Well, more productive (if not reproductive).
[15:45:31] < i_c-Y> haha.
[15:45:52] < i_c-Y> nicolas: another member of the calculator community attends there - Kerm
[15:45:54] < nicolas> benryves: I'll you that, hard to tell which is more fulfilling sometimes
[15:45:56] < i_c-Y> so yeah...
[15:46:40] <@benryves> Possibly, i_c-Y. This is a work machine, just pulled out the card and am using the on-board Intel GMA thing (which seems significantly faster, and also manages to output 1680x1050 without ghosting on analogue, something the 7300 LE couldn't do).
[15:46:55] < i_c-Y> oh
[15:47:21] <@benryves> Well, fast enough for Aero, at any rate.
[15:47:26] <+patz2009> Nobody in #tcpa can be reproductive. Except maybe Tahben :P
[15:47:30] < i_c-Y> get them to get you a 8800gts 512 with dual spinners and stuff.
[15:47:49] <@benryves> i_c-Y: Frankly, I'd never buy a Nvidia card. :\
[15:47:50] < nicolas> i_c-Y: those are huge...
[15:47:55] < i_c-Y> nicolas: yeah.
[15:48:03] < i_c-Y> im making an allusion to that court case in texas, nicolas 
[15:48:06] < i_c-Y> benryves: :(
[15:48:07] < nicolas> patz2009: I can play my part in reproduction!
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[15:48:36] < i_c-Y> but, patz2009 , tahben isnt a normal woman 
[15:48:38] < i_c-Y> :-/
[15:48:42] < i_c-Y> may as well be male.
[15:48:45] <+patz2009> Very few, if any, people in #tcpa get a chance at reproduction.
[15:48:58] < i_c-Y> i prevent reproduction via 2 ways:
[15:48:59] < i_c-Y> condoms
[15:49:01] < i_c-Y> and my personality.
[15:49:05] < i_c-Y> :D
[15:49:12] <+patz2009> What about FALCON PUNCH!
[15:49:17] < i_c-Y> haha
[15:49:34] < i_c-Y> benryves: are you married?
[15:50:27] < nicolas> patz2009: you are quite misinformed ... lots of people here are practicing reproduction... infact, one of our own has a 2.0 on its being to being cool like us :D
[15:50:43] <@benryves> i_c-Y: You're the second person to ask that within the last week, and I'm not sure why, but no.
[15:50:44] < i_c-Y> o.0
[15:50:48] < i_c-Y> haha.
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[15:51:01] <@efneTI86> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing?
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[15:51:25] <+bsparks> I think the only reproduction sucsessor here is tahben
[15:51:32] < nicolas> benryves: must be the ring on your finger that throws them off
[15:51:50] <@Andy_J> bsparks: cross-platform rankings on scorehero are awesome
[15:52:06] < nicolas> bsparks: she ain't the only one with kdis
[15:52:27] < i_c-Y> kids are the bane of human existance though.
[15:53:05] < nicolas> yup, and you'll keep saying that even with little i_c-Ys running around ... but you'll love them anyway :P
[15:54:13] <+patz2009> We can't have more i_c-Y's running around. The world would be doomed.
[15:54:22] < i_c-Y> no
[15:54:25] < i_c-Y> the world would be awesome
[15:54:34] <+patz2009> And then doomed.
[15:54:42] < i_c-Y> seriously, the only thing that could be more awesome than one me is more me's.
[15:54:47] < i_c-Y> why would we be doomed?
[15:55:01] < nicolas> because non of us would be leet enough to stay around!
[15:55:06] <+patz2009> Nikky might be out of a job.
[15:56:22] < i_c-Y> hm
[15:56:25] < i_c-Y> that is a concern...
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[16:30:09] < i_c-Y> i have devised a new plan based on empirical evidence to get hot bitches, patz2001 
[16:30:17] < i_c-Y> step 1: become pro at cooking
[16:30:42] <+patz2001> Hot bitches are always a nice thing.
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[16:31:18] < i_c-Y> step 2: start a cooking show
[16:31:19] < i_c-Y> step 3: ???
[16:31:19] < i_c-Y> step 4: PROFIT!
[16:31:19] < i_c-Y> though step 4 is slightly illegal i suppose in light of the spitzer scandal.
[16:31:19] < i_c-Y> why is my lagometer rising...
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[16:31:39] <@benryves> So, what, cooking dogs?
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[16:31:58]  * Randomist waves, and starts working on stuff.
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[16:32:23] < i_c-Y> this is absurd
[16:32:23] < i_c-Y> 21.5 s?
[16:32:23] < i_c-Y> 50.3 S?
[16:32:24] < i_c-Y> www.proatcooking.com is my empirical evidence.
[16:33:28] <+patz2009> !qadd <i_c-Y> i have devised a new plan based on empirical evidence to get hot bitches, patz2001 | <i_c-Y> step 1: become pro at cooking | <i_c-Y> step 2: start a cooking show | <i_c-Y> step 3: ??? | <i_c-Y> step 4: PROFIT! | <i_c-Y> though step 4 is slightly illegal i suppose in light of the spitzer scandal. | <benryves> So, what, cooking dogs?
[16:33:28] <@efneTI86> Quote 1225 added
[16:33:33] <+patz2009> !quoteurl
[16:33:34] <@efneTI86> http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/
[16:33:54] < i_c-Y> brb need to reboot modem
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[16:34:06] <@efneTI86> [Tari__] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[16:37:00] < i_c-Y> hm
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[16:38:33] < i_c-Y> hm
[16:38:41] <+patz2009> hm
[16:38:58] < i_c-Y> why is santana performing with nickelback?
[16:39:38] <+patz2009> who knows
[16:39:40] <@benryves> Maybe he accidentally thought he was being asked to play with Jesus?
[16:39:57] < i_c-Y> haha. 
[16:40:02] < i_c-Y> thats creed, not nickelback.
[16:42:41] <@benryves> He gets around, clearly.
[16:43:22] <@benryves> http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/mod/journal/journal.asp?jn=433428&reply_id=3173135 as a vaguely related aside. :P
[16:43:26] < i_c-Y> i think hes a jew
[16:44:39] < i_c-Y> does kurt cobain renor remind you of snape?
[16:44:49] <@benryves> Snape?
[16:45:33] < i_c-Y> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severus_Snape
[16:46:06] <@benryves> Oh, heh :D
[16:50:13] <+HQAT> Umm this might be a dumb question but what is the opposite of 'expanding'? compressing? or something like that?
[16:50:30] <+bsparks> compressing
[16:50:30] <+HQAT> English is not my native language :P
[16:50:38] <@benryves> Contracting.
[16:51:06]  * bsparks almost said archiving, has been using zips too much lately, and no, not the akron kind of zips
[16:51:16] <+HQAT> Ahh ok thanks :P
[16:51:21] <+patz2009> benryves: I think retract and contract work better together
[16:52:20] <@benryves> What do you think retract means? (As far as I'm aware, to take something back in).
[16:53:01] < Randomist> Take back/away.
[16:53:29] <+bsparks> I always think of doing a job when someone says contract
[16:53:35] <+bsparks> then I can believe I am a hitman
[16:53:40] <+bsparks> for the tcpa mafia
[16:53:41] <+patz2009> http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/expanding
[16:55:05] <@benryves> Randomist: Hm, retracting a statement vs retracting your claws, I guess. :)
[16:55:55]  * patz2009 wonders if anyone here plays Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds
[16:57:43] <+bsparks> I like, how on my bank statement, my overdraft charge went through on the 14th, but according to the statement, my account won't be negative until tomorrow
[17:01:19] <+HQAT> Umm does anyone know if there is an easy way to do something like "BIT B, A"? 
[17:01:19]  * patz2009 takes that as a no
[17:03:28] <@benryves> HQAT: I suppose you could load c with 1, rl c in a loop (djnz b), then and c to perform the test.
[17:04:24] <+HQAT> Hmm yes... thats a good idea... :D
[17:05:15] <+patz2009> http://patrickc.phatcode.net/images/random/ww2.gif
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[17:09:37] < nicolas> muscles contract
[17:09:49] < nicolas> to mean the pull the molecules together
[17:14:00] < Randomist> patz2009++
[17:19:09] < i_c-Y> good one, patz
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[17:26:43] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!!
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[17:28:50] < i_c-Y> i want a PLT 
[17:30:07] < i_c-Y> oh wow
[17:30:17] < i_c-Y> patz is hard core
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[17:34:21] < i_c-Y> loldialup
[17:34:33] < Peter_W> lolyoudare?
[17:35:03] < i_c-Y> dsl :)
[17:35:11] < boxknife> Hey, I wrote a program which uses button input to move a single character around on the screen, and it works, but for some reason it moves two spaces instead of one even though I use 'dec' and 'inc' to change the coordinate registers.
[17:35:31] < boxknife> I've been looking over it for awhile now, but I can't figure out why it's doing that.
[17:35:33] < boxknife> http://pastesite.com/443
[17:38:48] < Peter_W> heh, nice use of the stack
[17:39:19] < Peter_W> the last program I wrote with that method of returning from stuff.. didn't work, randomly
[17:39:19] < boxknife> I wrote a program before using the GetKey system routine, and it worked as expected
[17:39:47] < boxknife> Right now I'm trying all sorts of random stuff to see if it'll fix the problem - like pushing registers before system calls to make sure they're not getting eaten
[17:39:48] < boxknife> lol
[17:40:24] < boxknife> ugh, dad's computer broke. brb
[17:41:03] < Peter_W> why are you bothering with push/pop af?
[17:44:06] < Peter_W> and wait, shouldn't nop\nop be /after/ the out (1),a ?
[17:44:10] < Peter_W> but before the in
[17:44:32] < Peter_W> it's been a while, but I thought the point was to wait for the hardware after you output to the port
[17:47:05] < boxknife> The push/pop AF doesn't do anything. I just put it there so I could see what A was in the stack debugger because I'm lazy
[17:47:29] < boxknife> I don't know what the NOPs are really for; this tutorial just told me to put a pair between "setting the key group and reading the port"
[17:48:52] < boxknife> moving the NOPs to between the in and out doesn't seem to affect anything at runtime
[17:49:29] < i_c-Y> NOP doesnt do anything.
[17:50:03] < i_c-Y> you use it to save the state of registers and stuff
[17:50:17] < boxknife> It's supposed to add a delay to help ease the input process or something
[17:50:24] < i_c-Y> sometimes its used to control timing
[17:50:27] < boxknife> yeah
[17:50:28] <+sgm> You stepping through this with a debugger then?
[17:50:47] < i_c-Y> hazard control, etc.
[17:50:52] < boxknife> Trying to, yeah
[17:50:59] < i_c-Y> but its literal name is No Operation.
[17:50:59] <+sgm> Because if you aren't, it's possible that it's running so fast it only _appears_ to be moving two cells.
[17:52:01] < boxknife> Really? Is it that much faster than the getkey routine?
[17:53:22] < boxknife> Ugh, I've got to go. AFK
[17:55:17] < Peter_W> boxknife: Yeah when it says between setting the group and reading, it means out/in commands
[17:56:39] <+Sir_Lewk> "<boxknife> Hey, I wrote a program which uses button input to move a single character around on the screen..." You should make a Rogue
[17:58:39] <+Sir_Lewk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roguelike
[18:00:58] <+Sir_Lewk> al-la calcrogue
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[18:28:04] -!- Irssi: #tcpa: Total of 53 nicks [10 ops, 0 halfops, 18 voices, 25 normal]
[18:28:05] -!- Channel #tcpa created Fri Mar  2 07:59:29 2001
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[18:33:32] <+Sir_Lewk> http://profiles.friendster.com/41988906 lol
[18:34:32] <+Sir_Lewk> first google result for i_c-Y
[18:35:02] <+patz2009> G-UNIT
[18:35:07] <+chronomex> lol
[18:35:14]  * chronomex giggles
[18:35:19] <+Sir_Lewk> clearly we are among a true gansta
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[18:36:08] < Peter_W> heh, I just saw the "pastesite" window title, and misread it as "pastasite"
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[18:40:35] <+Sir_Lewk> haha
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[18:40:50] <+Sir_Lewk> we should make a new pastebin site pastabin
[18:40:56] < Spengolo> BrandonW: I have a question
[18:40:59] <+Sir_Lewk> and make a shite load off advertising
[18:41:45] <+Sir_Lewk> pastabin.com seems open
[18:41:46] < Spengolo> how do template functions work at the lowest level?
[18:42:29] < Spengolo> what is the compiler doing exactly when you make one of those?
[18:42:34] < i_c-Y> at compile time, it notes the types of the inputs
[18:42:38] < i_c-Y> and selects appropriately.
[18:43:10] <+Sir_Lewk> then it spews a bunch of error messages just to spite you
[18:43:31] < Spengolo> oh so it sees what you input and then makes seperate functions for each type of input?
[18:43:50] < i_c-Y> its kinda like a substitution at some level
[18:43:57] < Spengolo> like regular overloading except you don't have to explicitly make them yourself
[18:44:01] < i_c-Y> kinda.
[18:44:23] < i_c-Y> you write a general form of a function that is independent of the classes you want to use it on
[18:44:38] < Spengolo> yeah
[18:44:57] < i_c-Y> then, at compile time, it will note the arguments of your call of that function
[18:45:02] < i_c-Y> like say it was the max function
[18:45:09] < Spengolo> yes
[18:45:13] < i_c-Y> and you did max(double, double)
[18:45:15] < Spengolo> that was the example in class
[18:45:24] < i_c-Y> it would sub in the double for the class in the template 
[18:45:30] < i_c-Y> and just use that.
[18:45:41] < Spengolo> yes but I wanted to know how does that work exactly
[18:45:48] <@Andy_J> Magic.
[18:45:55] < Spengolo> I know how to write them, but I want to know what it's doing at the lowest level
[18:46:14] < i_c-Y> magic is the best explanation. really.
[18:46:20] < Spengolo> :P
[18:46:20] < i_c-Y> templates are a nightmare when you go in.
[18:46:38] < i_c-Y> considering even now that template support STILL isnt properly done.
[18:46:49] < Spengolo> heh
[18:47:18] < i_c-Y> i think even gcc4 does some pretty shitty stuff with templates.
[18:48:16] < i_c-Y> i dont quite remember what.
[18:48:20] < Spengolo> Humperdink
[18:48:55] < i_c-Y> i think it did some odd stuff if you ran a template function on a stl thing, and on a non stl thing, and screwed stuff over.
[18:49:02] < i_c-Y> in that it made some random ass shit
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[18:50:59] < Spengolo> hmm
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[19:00:18] < Spengolo> it's ports 
[19:00:42] <+chronomex> that it is
[19:00:51]  * Spengolo throws a packet at ports 
[19:01:03] < Spengolo> *
[19:01:36] < Spengolo> *
[19:01:57] < Spengolo> whatever font CGI:IRC uses, the asterisks have 5 points and look like stars when they are bold
[19:02:46] <+chronomex> nice?
[19:02:50] < Spengolo> http://www.technologyreview.com/Infotech/20423/?a=f cool, a shoop detector
[19:08:12] < Spengolo> ugh, the 2 types of ads I hate the most are the ones that take up the whole screen and have a "click here to skip" button and the ones that pop up a little window thingy when you mouse over a word
[19:08:30] < Spengolo> also anything with sound should burn
[19:09:35] < Spengolo> anyways, bbl class time
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[19:13:05] <+patz2009> what's the ASCII code for an EOF?
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[19:14:19] < i_c-Y> 13
[19:14:28] < i_c-Y> jk lol.
[19:14:33] < i_c-Y> 13 is carriage return.
[19:14:38] <+patz2009> yeah
[19:14:52] < i_c-Y> EOF is a random int constant in C
[19:15:06] < i_c-Y> which is why you store getchar in ints and compare against hte constant EOF
[19:15:11] < i_c-Y> which is implementation dependent as to value
[19:15:26] < i_c-Y> and its usually not in the range of a char.
[19:15:46] < i_c-Y> so compare against the constant EOF, or print EOF as a number to find out what your eof value is, patz2009 
[19:15:58] <+patz2009> -_-
[19:16:06] <+sgm> The closest thing ASCII has is ETX - 0x03, but that's not used in modern times.
[19:16:59] <+sgm> Or EOT - 0x04, which signals EOF on Unix.
[19:17:39] < i_c-Y> my system uses EOF as -1, patz2009 
[19:18:11] < i_c-Y> you just pick EOF as any value that is not a character code - its implementation dependent and therefore not in ascii
[19:18:15] < i_c-Y> though -1 is a fairly common choice.
[19:21:59] <+patz2009> QuickBASIC uses 26 as the EOF flag...
[19:22:08]  * patz2009 stops in fear of trolling
[19:23:33]  * Nikky trolls
[19:24:17]  * Randomist hears 'QuckBASIC,' thinks about the guy making the QuickBASIC -> ASM converter, and cringes.
[19:29:03] < Hunterkll> O.o
[19:29:39] < Hunterkll> There's a Q-BASIC compiler... version 5.x i think ....
[19:32:46] <@Andy_J> QBasic was purely an interpreted language.
[19:32:51] <@Andy_J> QuickBASIC was the compiled version.
[19:33:09] <@Andy_J> patz2009: that's because that's what DOS uses.
[19:33:42] < Hunterkll> ...what?
[19:33:51] < Hunterkll> I thought QBASIC = QuickBASIC ....
[19:33:56] <@Andy_J> No.
[19:34:09] <@Andy_J> QBasic 1.1 was the interpreted version.
[19:34:13] < Hunterkll> QB 3.0 had a 5x payffor compiler?
[19:34:27] < Hunterkll> 1.1's help called it quickbasic =/
[19:34:27] <@Andy_J> QuickBASIC 4.5 and 7.1, while similar to the language of QBasic, were different enough to not be the same.
[19:34:46] <+patz2009> QBasic was the only free one, QuickBASIC isn't.
[19:35:27] <@Andy_J> Microsoft QuickBASIC (also QB or incorrectly, "QBasic", which is a different system)
[19:35:36] <@Andy_J> first sentence of wikipedia articl
[19:35:46] <@Andy_J> which just so happens to be right for ocne
[19:36:54] <+sgm> Unlike your spelling... ;-)
[19:37:02] <+sgm> (I kid.)
[19:37:15] < Hunterkll> =[
[19:37:18] < Hunterkll> haha
[19:37:37] < Hunterkll> I lost. :)
[19:39:42] < Randomist> Why does TIOS not let you use a number as the first character in a variable name?
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[19:42:37] < Hunterkll> gah
[19:42:39] < Hunterkll> http://youtube.com/watch?v=SbF47r5adCU
[19:45:58] <+patz2009> No one will ever know you're wearing it!
[19:49:05] < Hunterkll> What the fu!?
[19:49:14] < Hunterkll> =]
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[21:04:05] <@efneTI86> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[21:18:25] <+chronomex> hi Mwyann
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[21:18:36] <+Mwyann> hi
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[21:56:55] <@efneTI86> [Merth] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
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[22:09:01] < i_c-Y> Hevein sounds like linkin park :<
[22:09:16] < i_c-Y> im listeing to their ONly Human track and i swar its linkin park
[22:09:22] < i_c-Y> except with finland ness
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[22:26:47] < DarkAuron> doesn't sound like linkin park at all
[22:36:57] < Grue> Linkin Park sucks
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[22:52:09] < Spengo> haha DarkAuron would know
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[23:11:52] < patz2009> <3 SWGB
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