--- Log opened Sun Mar 16 00:00:59 2008
[00:05:38] < BrandonW> This 89 Titanium came with a product CD which says "TI-89 Titanium and Voyage 200."
[00:05:53] < BrandonW> I guess they still consider the Voyage 200 important.
[00:05:58] < BrandonW> Though I never see it for sale anywhere.
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[00:16:16] <@E-J> BrandonW: but you can always go to your calc room to watch its beautiful shapes
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[00:20:39] <@E-J> i was looking for calculators from webstore of local bookstore where i bought my v200 2002 (iirc it was 2002) and typed "laskin" (laskin is calculator in finnish) to search, apparently laskin is also surname in US
[00:23:50] < BrandonW> I now have them all.
[00:24:07] < BrandonW> Not all hardware and case revisions, but as far as models go...
[00:24:20] < i_c-Y> your v200 came?
[00:25:07] < BrandonW> No, I've purchased them all and they're either here or on their way.
[00:25:11] < BrandonW> It's as good as done, I meant.
[00:27:40] < i_c-Y> unless Barrett pulled a fast one on ya
[00:28:00] < i_c-Y> and is the nspire CAS in your possession?
[00:28:11] < BrandonW> The Nspire CAS+ is on its way.
[00:29:20] < i_c-Y> hm
[00:29:28] < i_c-Y> 92+ ? 92? 92 II?
[00:29:43] < BrandonW> I already told you I don't have the 92 II or 92E modules because they can't be found.
[00:30:18] < i_c-Y> so har
[00:30:20] < i_c-Y> you dont have em all!
[00:30:31] < i_c-Y> and you NEVER WILL!
[00:30:43] < BrandonW> Semantics.
[00:30:47] < BrandonW> I have all that can be had.
[00:31:10] < i_c-Y> heh.
[00:33:52] < mokomull> chronomex: I'm back.
[00:43:05] < BrandonW> It just occurred to me I missed my chance to have the 92 II.
[00:43:16] < BrandonW> I saw it on eBay eons ago.
[00:49:11] < i_c-Y> haha! You could have had it but you dont!
[00:53:36] < BrandonW> I'm coming to the realization that the 92 II and 92 E modules are the same.
[00:53:41] < BrandonW> Just that the 92 II one came with the TI-92 II.
[00:53:51] < BrandonW> So had I gotten it, I'd have had them all.
[01:01:46] <@E-J> BrandonW: according to datamath, you are wrong
[01:01:57] < BrandonW> According to Datamath, I'm half right.
[01:02:04] < BrandonW> Read the descriptions on the two modules.
[01:02:16] < BrandonW> They're physically different because one was sold separately and the other came with the TI-92 II, only in Europe.
[01:02:18] < i_c-Y> still... you are incomplete!
[01:02:28] < BrandonW> But they provide the same features.
[01:02:33] < i_c-Y> plus you do not have the black ti-89 ti!
[01:02:40] < BrandonW> So it doesn't matter whether I get the 92E module itself or the bundled TI-92 II.
[01:03:21] < BrandonW> I don't care what color it is.
[01:03:51] < BrandonW> I'll never find the module, but I know the 92 II is out there.
[01:04:01] < i_c-Y> but not with you.
[01:04:10] < i_c-Y> and that is why you are incomplete.
[01:04:16] < i_c-Y> to be a master
[01:04:18] < i_c-Y> a calculator master
[01:04:24] < i_c-Y> blah blah blah more pokemon stuff
[01:04:29] < i_c-Y> gotta catch (collect) em all
[01:06:14] <@E-J> hmm, reading datamath, why qwerty format keyboard is reason to prohibit calculator in exam?
[01:06:36] < i_c-Y> cause its too much like a computer i guess
[01:06:37] < BrandonW> Because that would technically make it a computer.
[01:07:02] <@E-J> like SAT prohibits 92 and v200 but not ti-89 which is same without qwerty
[01:07:07] < i_c-Y> doesn't really matter though - the superior ti-89 ti is allowed.
[01:07:40] <@E-J> more proves that americans are nuts
[01:08:25] < BrandonW> Racist.
[01:09:36] <@E-J> :)
[01:09:59] < Barrett> the people who are in charge of the mountain west conference are complete idiots
[01:10:26] < Barrett> for like 10 straight years the mountain west basketball tournament will have been in las vegas
[01:10:31] < Barrett> at the UNLV arena
[01:10:37] < Barrett> (a team in the conference)
[01:11:03] < Barrett> because if it's in las vegas they apparently get more money
[01:11:14] < Barrett> even if this means that UNLV will win almost every time
[01:12:07] <@E-J> that only means that other teams suck
[01:12:18] < Barrett> well, no.
[01:12:31] < Barrett> BYU won the regular season.  By far.
[01:13:20] < Barrett> UNLV won all of their home games
[01:13:32] < Barrett> but lost twice as many games overall than BYU
[01:13:39] < Barrett> that should tell you something about home court advantage
[01:14:14] < Barrett> *all* normal conferences do one of two things:
[01:14:25] < Barrett> the tournament is held at the regular season champion's place
[01:14:30] < Barrett> sorry, 3 things
[01:14:37] < Barrett> or it rotates every year to a specific location
[01:14:40] <@E-J> yep, but i think team sucks if they can't win other team in court of that other team
[01:14:41] < Barrett> or it is played at a neutral location
[01:15:05] <@E-J> can't be that scary place
[01:15:33] < Barrett> well, when 90% of the crowd is rooting for one team, it really has an effect on the game
[01:15:40] <@E-J> or maybe they are bought
[01:17:04] <@E-J> you can ignore the crowd or irritate them by doing better job at court
[01:17:16] < Barrett> To a certain extent, yes.
[01:17:37] < Barrett> but even subconsciously it has an effect on the players
[01:19:21] <@E-J> maybe in university level these things matter too much for players, good thing is that in real world it doesn't
[01:20:03] <@E-J> sleep / reading pratchett time ->
[01:20:21] < Barrett> well, even in the NBA the home team wins the majority of the time
[01:20:41] < Barrett> but probably not as high of a percentage
[01:20:44] < Barrett> as college
[01:20:56] < Barrett> for example, BYU has nearly a 50 game home-court win streak
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[01:37:16] <@efneTI86> [Netham45] wewt
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[01:59:30] <@efneTI86> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[02:20:50]  * _Dig|ghst pokes Andy_J
[02:20:50] < _Dig|ghst> you "home"?
[02:22:41] < Spengo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLG0S_9Gezc what
[02:22:45] < Spengo> anonymous leader? :P
[02:23:07] < Spengo> anyways, pdx cops were much better, they were nice and even let us use both sides of the street
[02:25:17] < Spengo> they didn't care about the honking either
[02:27:23] <@Andy_J> ?
[02:27:31] < i_c-Y> those are poser anonymous
[02:28:07] < Netham45> everyone is equal in heaven, excpet for god, so heaven == communistic sociciety.
[02:28:25] <@Andy_J> you know what else is a communistic society?
[02:28:32] < _Dig|ghst> Andy_J, well since I've got some time to dedicate back to the linux box, should I wait until monday for the gentoo sources update or finish an install tonight.
[02:28:35] < Netham45> china?
[02:28:39] <@Andy_J> meh, I've lost motivation to kick you now
[02:28:51] < Netham45> :P
[02:29:05] < _Dig|ghst> !k Netham45 Andy_J is unmativated
[02:29:09] < _Dig|ghst> bah
[02:29:10] < _Dig|ghst> ;)
[02:29:17] < i_c-Y> i could take care of it.
[02:29:41] < Netham45> :(
[02:30:30] < _Dig|ghst> its /msg CalcBot voice passwd right?
[02:30:53] < _Dig|ghst> been too long
[02:30:56] < i_c-Y> http://startelegram.typepad.com/sky_talk/2008/03/woman-files-law.html
[02:31:03] < i_c-Y> yes.
[02:31:19] < i_c-Y> you could do /msg i_c-Y voice passwd too ;)
[02:31:27] < _Dig|ghst> yeah no
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[02:34:05] < Netham45> if that doesn't work, /msg efneti8(1/2/3/6//9/) voice passwd works too.
[02:34:16] < Cricket_B> I found a TI-BASIC command on the TI-48+ SE not included in the instruction manule
[02:34:21] < Cricket_B> * manuel
[02:34:23] < i_c-Y> really...
[02:34:24] < BrandonW> manual*
[02:34:26] < BrandonW> That's not at all surprising.
[02:34:27] < i_c-Y> on the 48+ SE?
[02:34:31] < Cricket_B> * I really can't spell that :)
[02:34:34] < i_c-Y> thats even more suprising.
[02:34:39] < BrandonW> You want to hear about another one?
[02:34:45] < Cricket_B> Sorry, TI-84+ SE
[02:34:45] < Netham45> no
[02:34:47] < Netham45> not really
[02:34:49] < BrandonW> Do this: Get("L
[02:34:54] < BrandonW> No one cares what you think, Netham.
[02:35:01] < i_c-Y> itsatrap
[02:35:48] < Cricket_B> Well, it's the OpenLib( and ExecLib commands. I checked the PDF version of the instructions (>600 pages), and there is no mention of these two commands.
[02:36:00] < BrandonW> Because nothing has ever used them, except us.
[02:36:02] < BrandonW> With usb8x.
[02:36:10] < Netham45> amazing
[02:36:29] < Cricket_B> Well, how are they used, and what are they for?
[02:36:40] < BrandonW> They're for allowing a BASIC program to call a function from a Flash application.
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[02:36:45] <@efneTI86> [Speng0] If at first you don't succeed, you fail.
[02:36:47] < BrandonW> You do OpenLib("NAMEOFAPP
[02:36:51] < BrandonW> And then ExecLib by itself.
[02:36:56] < BrandonW> Check http://usb8x.denglend.net/
[02:37:04] < Cricket_B> Does that run the APP?
[02:37:14] < Netham45> no
[02:37:16] < BrandonW> It gives the application control to do whatever it's been programmed to do when ExecLib is called.
[02:37:19] < Netham45> well, yes and no.
[02:37:26] < BrandonW> usb8x will do certain things based on the command you give it in Ans.
[02:38:06] < Cricket_B> So, if you run:
[02:38:08] < Cricket_B> :OpenLib("PuzzPack")
[02:38:08] < Cricket_B> :ExecLib
[02:38:14] < Cricket_B> It runs PuzzPack?
[02:38:16] < BrandonW> PuzzPack doesn't support those commands, no.
[02:38:23] < BrandonW> I said it gives an application which uses it control to do what it wants.
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[02:38:25] <@efneTI86> [Netham46] wewt
[02:38:32] < Netham46> damni
[02:38:32] < BrandonW> usb8x is the onyl application we have which takes advantage of OpenLib(/ExecLib.
[02:38:34] < Netham46> wrong button
[02:38:35] < BrandonW> only*
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[02:38:53] < BrandonW> So it's useless for anything but usb8x.
[02:39:08] < BrandonW> Until someone comes up with something else.
[02:39:09] < Cricket_B> Well, it's on the calc, but not in the manual.
[02:39:33] < BrandonW> Because TI has never used it.
[02:39:38] < Cricket_B> I'll try that PuzzPack thing after a backup
[02:39:44] < BrandonW> I just told you it won't work.
[02:39:48] < i_c-Y> or maybe they did, but you dont know, BrandonW 
[02:39:48] < BrandonW> PuzzPack knows nothing about those commands.
[02:39:49] < i_c-Y> >:)
[02:39:51]  * Cricket_B is archiving his programs
[02:39:53] < BrandonW> An application has to be written to support it.
[02:40:09] < i_c-Y> then again, you know TI calculators better than TI does
[02:40:10] < BrandonW> PuzzPack was written long before those commands came out.
[02:40:35] < BrandonW> All OpenLib( does is install the library hook for the application you tell it, assuming the application has a table set up for it, which only usb8x does.
[02:40:57] < Cricket_B> I got a syntax error.
[02:41:06] < Netham45> amazing.
[02:41:08] < BrandonW> With usb8x?
[02:41:19] < Cricket_B> No, With PuzzPack
[02:41:23] < BrandonW> Yes...
[02:41:25] < BrandonW> I already told you this.
[02:41:40] < Cricket_B> I just wanted to see if it would work.
[02:41:51] < Cricket_B> Speaking of which...
[02:41:52] < i_c-Y> BrandonW: telling Cricket_B something is like telling Randomist to stop changing distros
[02:41:53] < i_c-Y> there isnt a point
[02:41:57] < i_c-Y> :)
[02:42:15] < Cricket_B> How can an APP be run from a TI-BASIC program?
[02:42:24]  * Randomist has not changed OSes in almost three months.
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[02:42:33] < i_c-Y> silence, Randomist 
[02:42:38] < Cricket_B> I can use an ASM prog to do this.
[02:42:49] < BrandonW> So, you answered your own question.
[02:43:12] < Randomist> i_c-Y was right... he really must be my psychological brother.
[02:43:27] < BrandonW> What was he right about?
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[02:43:45] < Cricket_B> No, I mean what ASM program can I use to accomplish it?
[02:44:24] < BrandonW> There's something in http://brandonw.net/calcstuff/
[02:44:28] < BrandonW> Maybe called runapp or something.
[02:45:13] < Cricket_B> Upload it to TICALC.org
[02:45:29] < Cricket_B> (I found it, but others might not)
[02:45:34] < BrandonW> Others found it.
[02:45:50] < BrandonW> I only put significant stuff on ticalc.org.
[02:46:00] < Cricket_B> What IDE is best for TI-83 ASM?
[02:46:12] < Cricket_B> One with color-coding
[02:46:13] < BrandonW> TASM.
[02:46:17] < BrandonW> Doesn't exist.
[02:46:31] < Cricket_B> TASM isn't an IDE
[02:46:37] < Cricket_B> It's a compiler.
[02:46:46] < BrandonW> Sorry, DOS' edit.
[02:46:56] < BrandonW> All done in the same window.
[02:47:13] < Cricket_B> But without syntax coloring...
[02:47:56] < Netham45> http://www.detachedsolutions.com/forum/m/31599/#msg_31599
[02:48:21] < BrandonW> Netham, that causes a memory leak.
[02:48:28] < BrandonW> Because it doesn't delete the memory inserted to userMem.
[02:48:37] < BrandonW> Quit trying to be helpful, it's not like you.
[02:49:17] < Netham45> :(
[02:49:20] < i_c-Y> o.0
[02:49:23] < Cricket_B> I know there's an IDE with color coding out there...
[02:49:28] < i_c-Y> Kate bosworth has 2 different eye colors?
[02:49:30] < Netham45> Cricket_B, latenite?
[02:49:38] < BrandonW> He asked about 83 assembly.
[02:49:52] < Netham45> isn't latenite an 83+ IDE?
[02:49:59] < BrandonW> I'm pretty sure.
[02:50:01] < BrandonW> But not an 83 one.
[02:50:01] < Randomist> Latenite does 83/83+ assembly.
[02:50:06] < Netham45> well
[02:50:08] < Cricket_B> Can you link it?
[02:50:09] < Netham45> he's trying to run an app
[02:50:12] < Netham45> so he is on 83+
[02:50:20] < BrandonW> Google it.
[02:50:28]  * Randomist will be nice.
[02:50:32] < i_c-Y> no.
[02:50:35] < i_c-Y> you will not be nice.
[02:50:38] < i_c-Y> do not give him the link.
[02:50:47] < i_c-Y> we must teach him to fend for himself, before its too late.
[02:51:08] < Netham45> http://kvince83.tengun.net/maxboard/viewtopic.php?t=583
[02:51:41] < Barrett> hmmmm... I wonder if there are enough people that would like a website about me complaining
[02:51:44] < Barrett> bigcomplainer.com is available
[02:51:50] < Barrett> I could blog about how people suck at life
[02:52:14] < Netham45> sure
[02:52:19] < Netham45> I'll check every day
[02:52:22] < Netham45> j/k
[02:52:27] < Cricket_B> It's not complete :(
[02:52:31] < Randomist> Isn't there like two of those for every person living on this earth?
[02:52:32] < Netham45> I wouldn't ever check.
[02:52:33] < BrandonW> Whatever gets it out of this channel.
[02:52:33] < Cricket_B> No color coding
[02:52:51] < Netham45> Cricket_B, that is a really really early beta, iirc.
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[02:52:59] <@efneTI86> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
[02:53:04] <+_Dig|ghst> thought it was an ident issue
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[02:53:15] < Randomist> Cricket_B:   http://benryves.com/index.php?module=products
[02:53:31] < Barrett> I know that I am very good at complaining (meaning that I do it a lot)... which is one of my defining attributes, but most people don't like complainers
[02:53:47] < Netham45> yes.
[02:53:49] < Netham45> so shut up.
[02:53:56] < BrandonW> You complain, too, Netham.
[02:54:00] < Netham45> take it to your website, where we never have to see it again.
[02:54:01] < Cricket_B> Just what I needed
[02:54:02] < Cricket_B> J/K
[02:54:03] < Netham45> BrandonW, :P
[02:54:03] < Cricket_B> NOT what I needed
[02:55:04] < Randomist> What isn't?
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[02:55:10] < Netham45> http://benryves.com/bin/latenite/
[02:55:22] < Randomist> Yay, he's gone.
[02:55:25]  * Randomist celebrates.
[02:56:09] < Netham45> o.O
[02:56:13] < Netham45> I enabled timestamps
[02:56:19] < Netham45> and XChat went all freaky
[02:56:21] < Netham45> lol
[02:56:22] < Netham45> that was cool
[02:56:51]  * Randomist wonders why we need to know every bad thing that happens with your system.
[02:57:17]  * Netham45 wonders why we need to know every time Randomist reinstalls an OS, which is way too often.
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[02:58:25] < Randomist> For every time I change OSes, you've got fourteen hundred problems.
[03:00:04] < Netham45> meh
[03:00:13] < Netham45> not going to argue over your pathetic complaining.
[03:00:41] < BrandonW> Not going to listen to your pathetic complaining either.
[03:00:55] < Netham45> then /part
[03:01:00] < BrandonW> I'd rather !k
[03:04:36] < i_c-Y> i'll take care of that for you, BrandonW 
[03:04:40] < Randomist> Netham45:   Sucks now having any power, does it.  :-)
[03:04:45] < Randomist> * not
[03:05:38] < i_c-Y> and you don't either :)
[03:05:49] < Netham45> at least I have a gree.
[03:05:51] < Netham45> greet*
[03:05:55] < Randomist> But I'm happy with no power.
[03:06:00] < Randomist> The last thing I need is power.
[03:06:25] < Netham45> lol
[03:10:44] < i_c-Y> not an issue then, Randomist , cause you're the last person we'd give it to ;)
[03:10:50] < Netham45> \o/
[03:10:55] < Netham45> < not last anymore
[03:10:57] < i_c-Y> actually i lied.
[03:11:05] < Netham45> fuck
[03:11:08] < Netham45> :(
[03:11:11] < i_c-Y> cricket is last, then netham, then you
[03:11:12] < Speng0> he lied
[03:11:12] < Randomist> i_c-Y++
[03:11:14] < Speng0> he's a liar
[03:11:20] < Speng0> you're a bad person!
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[03:11:30] < i_c-Y> Glados was my role model, Spengo 
[03:11:49] < Netham45> can I tear you apart and burn you?
[03:11:51] < Spengo> have I ever lied to you? In this room I mean
[03:11:57] < Netham45> and somehow have you be still alive?
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[03:14:09] < BrandonW> Netham's at the bottom of the list of people we'd give powers to, then next up is Randomist, then Cricket. He's just young, he's not a bad guy or anything.
[03:14:16] < BrandonW> Randomist is semi-normal now, and Netham's the devil.
[03:16:27] < Netham45> \o/
[03:16:34] < Netham45> you're an ASM addict
[03:16:45] < Netham45> http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=50794
[03:17:11] < BrandonW> Was that supposed to be an insult?
[03:17:21] < Netham45> yea
[03:17:24] < Netham45> but I guess you are proud
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[03:19:23] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!!
[03:19:36] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Sir_Lewk] by efneTI86
[03:20:18] < Randomist> At least, if he is, he is actually contibuting to something good.
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[03:22:14] < Randomist> What have you contributed to the community, besides annoyance?
[03:23:00] < i_c-Y> i contribute an environment of fear and terror.
[03:23:08] < Netham45> Randomist, the same could be said to you.
[03:24:36] < BrandonW> Randomist just contributed an assembly program that displays lyrics.
[03:24:38] < BrandonW> Or is working on one.
[03:24:41] < i_c-Y> http://www.google.com/sky/ is pretty cool.
[03:24:43] < BrandonW> And he's done other BASIC programs.
[03:24:47] < BrandonW> You, Netham, have done nothing.
[03:25:40] < Netham45> I wrote a program that gets a screen capture from a remote calc using Omnicalc.
[03:25:49] < Netham45> about as useful as a lyrics program.
[03:26:09] < BrandonW> So, you called an Omnicalc function.
[03:26:15] < BrandonW> Randomist here is doing some semi-complicated things.
[03:26:17] < BrandonW> In his program.
[03:26:28] < Netham45> that is contributing how?
[03:26:38] < BrandonW> He has the potential to do more.
[03:26:44] < BrandonW> You have the potential to call more Omnicalc functions.
[03:26:53] < Netham45> if I really cared to, I could learn ASM
[03:26:58] < BrandonW> Except you don't.
[03:27:01] < Netham45> I just don't care to.
[03:27:07] < BrandonW> And that makes you useless.
[03:27:29] < Randomist> I was too lazy to start learning assembly, and yet, I got over it.
[03:27:43] < Netham45> I think it's fairly obvious I don't care.
[03:27:56] < BrandonW> I think it's fairly obvious we don't care what you think.
[03:27:57] < i_c-Y> lol ampliferinstructions.zip
[03:27:58] < BrandonW> We've stated that many times.
[03:28:03] < Netham45> i_c-Y, stfu.
[03:28:06] < Netham45> let that die.
[03:28:14] < Netham45> that was a long time ago.
[03:28:38] < i_c-Y> amplifier isn't even spelled right. 
[03:29:01] < Netham45> <Netham45> I think it's fairly obvious I don't care.
[03:30:39] < BrandonW> I think it's fairly obvious we don't care what you think.
[03:30:41] < BrandonW> We've stated that many times.
[03:31:31] < Netham45> and yet you still argue against me.
[03:31:49] < BrandonW> You keep putting up the same stupid defense, so I'll put up the same stupid response.
[03:32:08] < Netham45> ok
[03:32:11] < BrandonW> ok
[03:32:15] < Netham45> good
[03:32:59]  * Randomist thinks Netham45 is trying too hard to be an asshole.
[03:33:29] < BrandonW> He never has to try.
[03:33:34] < Netham45> no
[03:33:44] < Netham45> erm, yea, what Brandon said.
[03:35:54] < BrandonW> "that was a long time ago."...
[03:35:55] < BrandonW> Two years.
[03:36:01] < BrandonW> HTML AND DOC formats.
[03:36:33] < Netham45> in all fairness
[03:36:38] < Netham45> I have matured alot in 2 years.
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[03:43:10]  * Andy_J bites his tongue.
[03:43:28] < Randomist> http://randomosity.mine.nu:8080/misc/netham-maturity.png
[03:43:51] <@Andy_J> I love how there isn't a scale.
[03:44:42] < i_c-Y> its assumed that heading in the direction of word arrangement is negative.
[03:45:02] < i_c-Y> besides, how would you quantize maturity?
[03:45:35] <@Andy_J> put Ox40 at the bottom and Michael_V at the top
[03:46:07] < i_c-Y> i nominate Omni-JUST FUCKIN STOP JUST FUCKIN STOP JUST FUCKIN STOP-maga at the bottom.
[03:46:13] <@Andy_J> Oh, right.
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[03:49:41] < i_c-Y> hm
[03:49:50] < i_c-Y> i wonder if his site is back
[03:50:35] < Randomist> Nope.  I think someone tried to recreate it, but I forget the URL.
[03:52:22] < BrandonW> Just give it some time.
[03:54:04] < Netham45> no
[03:54:08] < Netham45> someone created their old board
[03:54:10] < Netham45> own(
[03:54:12] < Netham45> own **
[03:54:25] < Netham45> like 3 months ago
[03:54:34] < Netham45> and tried getting all the Omnimaga members to join it
[03:56:30] < Randomist> Someone should take the domain name, just for the hell of it.
[03:56:42]  * Randomist nudges Nikky.
[03:57:11] < Netham45> it's still registered
[03:57:14] < Netham45> for the next 10 years
[03:57:26] < Netham45> according to DJ
[03:58:32] < BrandonW> Maybe if you guys piss him off some more, he'll cancel that, too.
[03:58:58] < Randomist> And if someone can piss him off _really_ good, maybe he'll shut down the channel, too.
[03:59:10] < Netham45> he can't
[03:59:17] < Netham45> we;;
[03:59:19] < Netham45> well*
[03:59:23] < Netham45> he could, but I could reopen it
[03:59:31] < BrandonW> I don't think he's trusted with powers anymore on IRC.
[03:59:34] < BrandonW> But what do I know.
[03:59:43] < Netham45> he is equal with me
[03:59:53] < Netham45> (power wise)
[04:00:04] < BrandonW> And since no one can possibly trust you, that sounds about right.
[04:00:05] < Randomist> Uh-oh.  Netham45 with power somewhere?
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[04:00:24] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!!
[04:00:37] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Sir_Lewk] by efneTI83
[04:00:38] <+Sir_Lewk> fscking hate mpg321
[04:00:39] < Netham45> I've had power in #omnimaga for over a year now.
[04:01:05] < Netham45> I've been 2nd to top admin since Jan. 1st
[04:01:24] < Netham45> had access to be 2nd to top since before I was there.
[04:01:24] < Randomist> No wonder it's decended into chaos so fast.
[04:01:35] < Netham45> how is it chaos?
[04:01:45] < Netham45> since I took ownership of the channel, there has been no shutdowns of any kind.
[04:01:56] < Netham45> (to the channel)
[04:12:10] < Randomist> i_c-Y:   Maybe they all ran away.  Or they're quaking with fear.  Or, they think if they stay quiet, you'll go away. :P
[04:12:18] < i_c-Y> haha
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[04:35:11] < BrandonW> Has anyone seen the 2002 film Solaris?
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[04:35:50] <@efneTI86> [DSP_Lord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
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[04:37:10] < Randomist> Nope.  Someone made a movie about an operating system?
[04:37:29] <+Sir_Lewk> Pirates of Silicon Valley
[04:37:38] <+Sir_Lewk> it's about several actually :P
[04:37:38] < BrandonW> No, it's a ridiculous sci-fi film that I was barely able to sit through several years ago. I was hoping to read negative stuff about it on the internet, but apparently there is none.
[04:38:05] < BrandonW> George Clooney, Natasha McElhone...
[04:38:28] < BrandonW> It's set on a space station orbiting a planet where all the crew has killed themselves after the planet recreates physical copies of something/someone they care about...
[04:38:31] < BrandonW> Or something, I don't know.
[04:38:32] <+Sir_Lewk> I actually recommend "Pirates of Silicon Valley" for the anti-microsoft/apple lulz
[04:38:36] < BrandonW> It was the most boring thing I'd ever sat through.
[04:38:39] < BrandonW> It was so slow...
[04:38:48] < BrandonW> And it would keep fading back to a shot of the entire blue planet.
[04:38:52] < BrandonW> That's how it would change scenes.
[04:39:08] < BrandonW> If I didn't hate myself so much for wasting hours of my life on it, I'd have fallen asleep during it.
[04:49:54] < Randomist> Yay, I got around the cpdr thing.
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[04:55:46] < Randomist> I'm ready to start making the .lrc -> .8xv converter now... what language should I do this in?
[04:56:36] < BrandonW> Any language you want.
[04:56:59] < BrandonW> One you can compile and bundle with your program.
[04:57:03] < BrandonW> Not PHP or something.
[04:57:23] < BrandonW> The less a user has to be dependent on, the better.
[04:57:51]  * Randomist wonders if he could do it in PHP...
[04:58:00] < BrandonW> NO!
[04:58:03] < BrandonW> You can, of course, but don't.
[04:59:07] < Barrett> does anyone else here lose like 2 pounds while they're watching Rudy?
[04:59:55] < Randomist> Server lag.
[05:00:22] < Randomist> Barrett:  I've had to watch that movie twice this year. x.x
[05:00:43] < Barrett> I could never watch it in public
[05:00:45] < Randomist> Once for Visual Media; again for Teen Leadership.
[05:01:48] < Barrett> It must have been torture for any man to watch it in a theatre
[05:04:51] < Randomist> BrandonW:   What if I made put the converter online?
[05:06:16] < BrandonW> Then what do people do in 5 years when your site is dead? Having a site online for something like that is stupid.
[05:06:21] < BrandonW> And what if someone doesn't have internet access?
[05:06:23] < BrandonW> Then you're just screwed.
[05:06:26] < BrandonW> Just like with jailbreakme.com.
[05:06:28] < BrandonW> It's nonsense.
[05:06:30] < BrandonW> Don't do it.
[05:07:47]  * Tari_ volunteers to try to make one in Python
[05:08:09] <+Sir_Lewk> haha
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[05:08:52] <+Sir_Lewk> apparently if I send a IM message that's to long to somebody who is "mobile" it fills up their inbox
[05:10:59] <+Sir_Lewk> I sent a kid the message "ITS PIE DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" and he flipped out
[05:11:20] <+Sir_Lewk> (this was yesterday)
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[05:11:26] < BrandonW> I won't do it, but somebody is probably going to kick you.
[05:11:43] <+Sir_Lewk> that wasn't that much for IRC...
[05:11:58] < BrandonW> That's why I won't do it.
[05:12:07] < BrandonW> But I'm sure there's an op crazy enough here to do it.
[05:12:23]  * Sir_Lewk glares at N*kky
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[05:16:22] < Randomist> Tari_:   That's okay, I'll try my hand at it... besides, it'll give me a reason to finish learning Python.
[05:16:29] <+Tari_> word
[05:16:54] <+Tari_> (shed skin might be useful once it's done)
[05:17:19] <+Tari_> so you can create native code so users don't need to deal with an interpreter
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[05:27:15] < bsparks> 'sup?
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[05:28:31]  * Randomist goes and grabs a copy of ActivePython and "Learn Python in Ten Minutes."
[05:31:49]  * Sir_Lewk laughs manically
[05:32:15] <+Sir_Lewk> ok, so this other dude and I have this completely mutual and voluntary hacking contest going on
[05:32:36] <+Sir_Lewk> we are each trying to get into each other's comp and pwn each other
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[05:33:22] <+Sir_Lewk> he's been throwing himself up against iptables for the past few weeks, I've disabled sshd and he is trying to brute force it anyways
[05:33:47] <+Sir_Lewk> in the mean time I just got physical access to his laptop and set his root password
[05:34:05] <+Tari_> haha
[05:34:06] <+Sir_Lewk> been fscking with him for weeks and he hasn't even realized it
[05:34:40] -!- Tari_ is now known as Tari|zzz
[05:34:54] <+Sir_Lewk> I've managed to forward any audio from his mic over then network onto my comp
[05:35:38] <+Sir_Lewk> I'm going to converse with him via festival and convince him his computer is sentient :D
[05:35:59] <+Sir_Lewk> then ==> the
[05:38:19] <+Sir_Lewk> I've already used mogrify to flip all his images upsidedown, chowned his home to root, erased his MBR, and rickrolled him remotely and changed his language.  He's yet to realize what happened
[05:40:19] <+Sir_Lewk> idiot
[05:41:00] < BrandonW> You erased his MBR and then rickrolled him?
[05:41:05] < BrandonW> That proves he's intelligent enough to at least fix that.
[05:41:22] < bsparks> redirect all his internet traffic to xkcd.com
[05:43:34] < Randomist> Is Windows Movie Maker free?
[05:43:51] <+Sir_Lewk> he just reinstalled ubuntu
[05:44:03] < BrandonW> Randomist, of course.
[05:44:06] < BrandonW> It comes with Windows XP and higher.
[05:44:20] < Randomist> Huh.  This is Windows XP Pro, and it did not come with it.
[05:44:22] <+Sir_Lewk> we were actually going to help him fix it but he reinstalled before we could (lossing MacOSX in the process)
[05:44:43] <+Sir_Lewk> bsparks, that's an excellent idea
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[05:44:44] <@efneTI86> [Tyler2] I speak fluent dialup.
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[05:44:54] < BrandonW> Randomist, nonsense...look for it.
[05:44:54] <+ports> BrandonW, i'm trying to order more of those FTA boxes.. and the company wants $40/each for shipping..
[05:45:13] < BrandonW> Dealer bastards...
[05:45:16] < BrandonW> This is why you do things yourself.
[05:45:23] <+ports> lol
[05:45:28] <+ports> im going to try calling them monday.
[05:45:43] <+ports> because if i place a bulk order for 4.. the thing rings up with $160 in shipping
[05:46:01] <+ports> and we know theyll just put all 4 in 1 box and ship it to me, and save TONS of money
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[05:46:45] <@efneTI86> [sjrberg] It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
[05:46:53] <+ports> if they dont knock the price down some.. ill just order 1, wait a week, order another, etc.. and waste their shipping money
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[05:47:08] < Randomist> I see it nowhere in Accessories.
[05:47:22] < bsparks> Randomist, check program files
[05:47:22] < BrandonW> Who wants an 848-page book called "Beginning ASP.NET 1.0 with C#"?
[05:47:28] < BrandonW> Trashed if no one answers.
[05:47:40] < BrandonW> Randomist, just look in Programs, no subfolders.
[05:47:43] < Randomist> Oh, there it is.
[05:48:11] <+ports> BrandonW, no fanks.. im still trying to learn C
[05:49:53] < BrandonW> ASP.NET 1.0 is dead, so you shouldn't want it anyway.
[05:50:10] <+ports> you ever do any microcontroller programming?
[05:50:51] < BrandonW> And by that, you mean what?
[05:51:06] <+ports> PSoC's
[05:51:35] < BrandonW> And by that, you mean what?
[05:51:40] < BrandonW> For what?
[05:51:44] <+ports> how can i make that more specific?
[05:51:51] <+ports> do you want a model number for my psoc?
[05:52:00] < BrandonW> No.
[05:52:14] <+ports> how can i make that more specific?
[05:52:22] < BrandonW> I wanted to know what you were getting at.
[05:52:27] < BrandonW> What you were using it for.
[05:52:44] <+ports> ok
[05:53:09] < BrandonW> ok
[05:53:52] <+ports> http://www.cypress.com/portal/server.pt?space=CommunityPage&control=SetCommunity&CommunityID=285&PageID=552&drid=88463&shortlink=&r_folder=&r_title=
[05:53:58] <+ports> that's the kit im using.
[05:54:10] <+ports> im programming a psoc to work as a fluid sensor
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[05:55:35] <@efneTI86> [Spengo] If at first you don't succeed, you fail.
[05:55:46] < BrandonW> I haven't done that.
[05:56:03] <+ports> it's going to be a really generic If/Else program
[05:56:23] <+ports> http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=triggercircuitwithtouchub8.png - where you see the LED. ill remove that. and run 2 wires to a PSoC.
[05:56:38] <+ports> and i have 2 wires from those circles going into a stream of fluid.  
[05:56:52] <+ports> when fluid passes through.. itll complete the circuit on those 2 wires.
[05:57:18] <+ports> and turn on the LED.. but instead thatll be an input to the PSoC... and just trigger an ISR to move a valve
[05:57:48] < BrandonW> ok
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[06:12:10]  * Randomist needs to resize a large, optimized gif animation.  Anyone know a good tool for the job.
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[06:19:22] < BrandonW> Sorry, was that a question?
[06:19:28] < BrandonW> I didn't see a question mark in there..
[06:19:38] < Randomist> Never ind.
[06:19:53] < Randomist> Sorry, I'm getting sleepy.  It's 1:25 ASM CST.
[06:20:08] < BrandonW> AM?
[06:20:23]  * Randomist nods.
[06:20:28] < BrandonW> Good lord, now he's seeing assembly everywhere...
[06:20:32] < BrandonW> He's unstoppable!
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[06:49:07] <+Nikky> Ban Netham45, you say?
[06:49:39] < BrandonW> If you're in favor of it, then yes, someone said that.
[06:49:56] <+Nikky> What for?
[06:50:09] <+Nikky> I'm always up for banning our least favorite visitor.
[06:50:14] <+Nikky> Especially now that we like Randomist 
[06:51:26] < Randomist> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsU5_P8hWpI
[06:51:32]  * Randomist yawns and goes to bed.
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[07:11:32] <+Sir_Lewk> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6200593424291031420&hl=en
[07:11:44] <+Sir_Lewk> A day late but still cool
[07:12:56] <+Sir_Lewk> BOW TO PI! BOW MORTALS!
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[07:16:55] < JETLI626> hello
[07:18:04] < JETLI626> anyone mind answering a question about getting my TI-89 plat to detect properly?
[07:18:32] < glk> My url has much TI-89 data in Math http://grahamkendall.net/
[07:20:34] <+Sir_Lewk> you mean with ticonnect JETLI626?
[07:21:15] < JETLI626> yeah
[07:21:29] < JETLI626> i made the mistake of connecting my calc before installing ti-connect
[07:21:46] < JETLI626> i had tried TILPII but I got some gliblib dll error stuff I couldn't resolve
[07:22:01] <+Sir_Lewk> hmm
[07:22:37] <+Sir_Lewk> It's been a long time since I've done anything with ticonnect or tilp on windows
[07:22:40] < JETLI626> whenever i try to install drivers, it looks for libusb drivers
[07:22:57] < JETLI626> which are like open source drivers
[07:23:24] <+Sir_Lewk> I think you have to use Add/Remove hardware to remove the before installing ticonnect again, not sure though
[07:23:40] <+Sir_Lewk> the last time I messed around with that I was using win98 ;)
[07:24:39] < glk> I use TI connect. it is on the CD supplied
[07:24:42] <+Sir_Lewk> are you sure you have the most recent version of tilp? http://lpg.ticalc.org/prj_tilp/
[07:25:10] < JETLI626> ah, i was wondering what lpg was...whenever i try to install the drivers it automatically looks in the common files lpg folder
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[07:25:34] < JETLI626> but yeah i think i had the newest version
[07:25:42] <+Sir_Lewk> glk, do you know how to fix it if you have the cable plugged in before you install TI connect?
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[07:26:31] < glk> If you have a proper cable, you can download TI connect. I did
[07:27:01] < JETLI626> i use device manager but the calculator shows up under a libusb entry instead of other devices, or usb devices or whatever
[07:27:14] < JETLI626> so it's like disobeying whatever the help file says it should be doing
[07:27:22] < glk> Some IBM need a proper command for USB ports. I use  a MAC and had no problems
[07:27:39] < BrandonW> ...
[07:28:00] < BrandonW> 89Ti USB with TiLP doesn't work so well. I wouldn't bother.
[07:28:03] < BrandonW> Use TI Connect only.
[07:28:04] < JETLI626> ok
[07:28:05] <+Sir_Lewk> JETLI626, you are using the USB to USB-mini cable correct?
[07:28:08] < JETLI626> yes
[07:28:21] <+Sir_Lewk> I thought that was working with windows?
[07:28:33] < BrandonW> They "claim" it, but don't believe it.
[07:28:45] <+Sir_Lewk> I think I've used it
[07:28:45] < BrandonW> Just find TI Connect's driver and install it.
[07:28:50] < glk>   When the connection is valid, you see a Var Link menu on the screen
[07:28:59] < BrandonW> I would disregard glk's random advice.
[07:29:03] <+Sir_Lewk> lol
[07:29:18] <+Nikky> BrandonW sucks.
[07:29:19] <+Sir_Lewk> It's relevant, just sometimes cryptic
[07:29:21] < glk> It works for me
[07:29:33] < BrandonW> Nikky sucks. He goes to defend glk when he KNOWS he's not helping this situation at all.
[07:29:40] <+Sir_Lewk> I think it's significantly different on Macs glk
[07:29:42] < JETLI626> see, when i plug in the ti-89, found new hardware refers to it as a ti-89 titanium usb device, while the ti-connect help file says it should be called otherwise
[07:29:51] <+Sir_Lewk> ie, harder ;)
[07:29:55] < BrandonW> Ignore TI Connect's help file.
[07:29:58] < JETLI626> ok
[07:30:04] <+Sir_Lewk> err, easier on macs
[07:30:04] < BrandonW> Does it ask you the location of the driver for that device?
[07:30:18] <+Nikky> Everything is easy on a mac
[07:30:20] <+Nikky> Trolls
[07:30:27] <+Sir_Lewk> that's what I was saying
[07:30:27] < JETLI626> yeah but it's specifying the name of the file it wants, but the name of the file is that libusb sourceforge one
[07:30:32] <+Sir_Lewk> haha, you agreed with me
[07:30:40] < BrandonW> Okay, tell it TI Connect's driver instead.
[07:30:41]  * Sir_Lewk has defeated Nikky!
[07:30:45] < BrandonW> Are you on XP?
[07:30:46] < JETLI626> where does that file live
[07:30:47] < JETLI626> yeah xp
[07:30:56] < JETLI626> that's what i was having trouble with...finding out what the proper driver is called
[07:31:00] < JETLI626> and where it is
[07:31:08] < BrandonW> I'm not exactly sure, but I would either check C:\Program Files\TI Education\ or just your Windows directory.
[07:31:20] < glk> There is a menu at the top to choose ti-89
[07:31:27] < BrandonW> *sigh*
[07:31:53] <+Sir_Lewk> XP sucks to much for that glk
[07:32:20] <+Nikky> It works fine on XP
[07:32:21] < JETLI626> hmm i might have got it...i clicked on "don't search ill choose the device" and it has the proper names listed in the help file so maybe it will work
[07:32:41] < JETLI626> should i pick ti educational handheld device, or ti-graph/direct link usb
[07:32:51] < BrandonW> TI Educational Handheld Device.
[07:32:54] < JETLI626> ok
[07:33:18] <+Sir_Lewk> Nikky, I'm not smart enough to use XP
[07:33:35] <+Sir_Lewk> maybe you are but anything more complicated than linux is beyond me
[07:33:44] < JETLI626> okay cool i got it working
[07:33:45] < BrandonW> The file for me is at C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\tiehdusb.sys
[07:34:03] < JETLI626> yeah it searched in that folder but didn't ask for the file so i suspect it knew to find that this time around
[07:34:13] < JETLI626> instead of the libusb nonsense
[07:34:25] < JETLI626> thanks guys
[07:34:29] <+Nikky> Sir_Lewk: No, you use Fedora. That's like Windows for retards.
[07:34:56] <+Sir_Lewk> hey man, the retards are on to something here
[07:35:09] <+Sir_Lewk> and I also use Debian now
[07:35:23] <+Nikky> You wish you did
[07:35:59] <+Sir_Lewk> I have one of my routers running it
[07:36:12] <+Nikky> uh-hunh
[07:36:15] <+Nikky> one of your routers
[07:36:16] <+Nikky> right
[07:37:18] <+Sir_Lewk> I had 20+ ethernet cards, 3 crappy PCs and a free weekend
[07:37:26] <+Sir_Lewk> thus, I now have 3 routers
[07:38:27] <+Sir_Lewk> one running fedora, really just relageted to being my nethack server, another running Debian, which I'm using as my DHCP server
[07:38:44] <+Sir_Lewk> the third I sold to some fool who I think put Ubuntu on i
[07:38:45] <+Sir_Lewk> t
[07:39:03] <+Sir_Lewk> so two really...
[07:40:02] <+Nikky> That is such a waste of energy
[07:40:07] <+Nikky> I mean, seriously
[07:40:14] <+Nikky> No wonder you're a GOPtard
[07:40:53] < BrandonW> Why do you have to be so mean to everyone, Nikky?
[07:40:55] <+Sir_Lewk> utilities are free, I'm in a dorm
[07:41:09] < BrandonW> So far, in the past few minutes, you've done nothing but bash Windows, Linux, and say Sir_Lewk and I suck.
[07:41:19] <+Nikky> Free not to the enviroment!
[07:41:21] <+Nikky> genius
[07:41:48] <+Nikky> BrandonW: I didn't mean to say that you sucked. It was a typo. :(
[07:41:54] <+Sir_Lewk> my school uses less energy than most because it heats itself with steam piped in from a powerplant
[07:42:04] < BrandonW> What did you mean to say instead?
[07:42:08] <+Nikky> As with every school, Sir_Lewk 
[07:42:11] <+Sir_Lewk> not that I give a shit about stuff like that
[07:42:14] <+Sir_Lewk> not so
[07:42:20] <+Nikky> Yes so
[07:42:31] <+Sir_Lewk> as with schools in an area where that is available
[07:43:14] <+Sir_Lewk> maybe most, I don't have the statistics, but the point stands, I don't give a shit
[07:43:28] <+Nikky> Squirrel killer.
[07:43:35] <+Nikky> Go drive your Hummer
[07:43:45] <+chronomex> mokomull: good to hear that you're back
[07:43:49] <+Sir_Lewk> I've never hunted and don't own a car
[07:44:05] <+Sir_Lewk> I probably use public transportation a hell of a lot more than you
[07:44:20] <+Nikky> On what basis do you make that assumption? :)
[07:45:15] <+Nikky> chronomex: We forgot to take pictures with him.
[07:45:16] <+Sir_Lewk> intuition :P , also note I said "probably"
[07:48:32] <+chronomex> Nikky: I know!
[07:51:29] <+Nikky> :(
[07:52:26] <+chronomex> you're the photographer and all
[07:52:59] <+Nikky> Well
[07:53:10] <+Nikky> I was hoping you wouldn't remember that
[07:53:12] <+Nikky> >.>
[07:53:20] <+chronomex> haha
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[08:00:53] <+Sir_Lewk> has anyone gotten an eeepc?
[08:02:13] <+bsparks> I own one
[08:02:17] <+bsparks> as does DA
[08:03:57] <+Sir_Lewk> I'm thinking about getting one
[08:04:01] <+Sir_Lewk> suggested?
[08:04:18] <+bsparks> nah
[08:05:00] <+Sir_Lewk> why not?
[08:05:56] <+Sir_Lewk> I mostly want one so I can always have a computer without lugging around my thinkpad
[08:06:11] <+bsparks> ah, well
[08:06:12] <+bsparks> idk
[08:06:16] <+bsparks> they are nice
[08:06:28] <+bsparks> but run way hot, and are awkward sometimes 
[08:07:49] <+Sir_Lewk> my T60p is the definition of "runs hot" ;)
[08:08:27] <+Sir_Lewk> had to put my hand on ice after touching the aluminum lid hinge after playing quake for a few hours once
[08:20:18] <+ports> *sigh*
[08:20:20] <+ports> im an idiot
[08:20:42] <+ports> i bought a motorcycle a few years ago.. kept it for a year and then sold it because it was impractical for me..
[08:20:56] <+ports> and i really... really.. want to buy another
[08:21:23] <+ports> Sir_Lewk, btw, dont buy an eeepc
[08:23:23] <+ports> its like $400 for a 3 lb pc... if you spend $600.. you can get a 4.5 lb notebook.. and itll be a much better computer and still fairly lightweight
[08:25:21] <+Sir_Lewk> lol
[08:25:22] <+Sir_Lewk> buy a moped, all the cool kids have them
[08:25:35] <+ports> eh
[08:25:39] <+ports> id have to kick my own ass
[08:25:50] <+ports> http://www.triumph.co.uk/images/bonneville_gallery_pop_3_2008.jpg
[08:25:56] <+ports> that's why im thinking of getting
[08:26:22] <+Sir_Lewk> I'm looking for a small size though, my thinkpad is just to big.
[08:26:40] <+Sir_Lewk> that is sexy
[08:26:54] <+ports> i know
[08:27:28] <+ports> http://www.bikez.com/pictures/triumph/2002/20121_0_1_2_tt%20600_Image%20by%20Triumph.%20Published%20with%20permission..jpg - that's my old bike
[08:28:22] <+ports> http://www.triumph.co.uk/images/bonneville_gallery_pop_1_2008.jpg - She's so beautiful.  I must own her.
[08:29:10] < al_b> I've always wanted a dirtbike
[08:29:41] <+ports> dirt bikes usually arent street legal
[08:29:41] < al_b> not to ride on roads, but just to drive like a maniac offroad
[08:30:32] <+Sir_Lewk> I've been considering getting a bike
[08:30:41] <+Sir_Lewk> as in bicycle :P
[08:32:16] < al_b> if I had the miney, I'd buy one of these: http://www.gayot.com/images/lifestyle/aviation/cirrus/sr22_main.jpg
[08:32:18] <+ports> i have a bicycle for sale
[08:32:23] <+ports> $750
[08:32:35] <+ports> its a brand new, packaged, Coca Cola mountain bike.
[08:32:42] < al_b> over 200mph
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[09:04:54] < millinao> Spengo, if you are on, did you go to the protest today?
[09:13:59] < BrandonW> I just thought of a much quicker way of checking if an 84+SE program is running on an Nspire.
[09:14:32] < BrandonW> I used to scan the whole boot code for two bytes, but that was crazy, you can just look up the address of _WriteFlash and then check 100 or so bytes for it, much quicker.
[09:15:04] < BrandonW> Or whichever routine actually has the Flash code right after it.
[09:15:52] <+Sir_Lewk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MedwJscqH5Q LMAO
[09:16:30] < millinao> LOL
[09:16:32] < millinao> thats awesome
[09:17:51] < millinao> that's a huge gun
[09:18:13] < millinao> LOL
[09:18:18] < millinao> i just saw the big explosion
[09:19:19] <+Sir_Lewk> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7441282340198655935
[09:19:34] <+Sir_Lewk> I have a new toy on my wish list ;)
[09:23:21] < BrandonW> People who make music videos of Stargate Atlantis clips suck.
[09:23:38] < BrandonW> I don't want to see you mixing up clips and putting some stupid song behind it...
[09:23:41] < BrandonW> I want to see the _show_...
[09:25:42] <+Sir_Lewk> people who make music videos of Gatling gun clips are awesome though :D
[09:25:55] < millinao> haha
[09:41:37] < BrandonW> I was trying to find a clip of Atlantis where they used rail guns to defend the city.
[09:41:43] < BrandonW> And then I went crazy watching random Atlantis clips.
[09:41:47] < BrandonW> And now I'm stuck on it.
[09:43:02] < millinao> you've past the point-of-no-return, BrandonW
[09:43:15] < BrandonW> Maj. Lorne: I was hoping Lt. Ford would recognize a friendly face and turn himself in. 
[09:43:15] < BrandonW> Dr. Rodney McKay: You mean me? 
[09:43:15] < BrandonW> Maj. Lorne: Well, you were friends, weren't you? 
[09:43:15] < BrandonW> Dr. Rodney McKay: Oh yeah, when we weren't out on harrowing missions, we used to hang out together. I'd share my dreams of self-sustaining fusion, he would talk about how you could sever a man's torso with a P-90.
[09:43:24] < millinao> now you are going to start commenting on youtube videos
[09:43:34] < BrandonW> Actually, I'll just start pasting IMDb quotes.
[09:43:54] < millinao> by the way, have youtube comments gotten smarter or have I gotten stupider?
[09:44:07] < Leofox> they couldnt have really gotten any dumber
[09:44:15] < millinao> because I don't see as many stereotypic omg!! comments anymoe
[09:44:49] < millinao> haven't seen a chain comment in a few weeks
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[10:14:01] < BrandonW> That's it...I'm writing an e-mail to TI about this piece of shit they call TI Connect.
[10:30:43] < BrandonW> Sent it...
[10:30:44] < BrandonW> Bastards.
[10:31:04] < BrandonW> http://rafb.net/p/kl3rsJ86.html One of their more asinine mistakes.
[10:31:08] < BrandonW> I tried to be really nice.
[10:32:18] < BrandonW> I also tried to sound like a disgruntled teacher with bins full of different models.
[10:32:47] < BrandonW> Instead of the calculator-addicted psycho that I am.
[10:35:30] < BrandonW> If anyone is still awake and has a clue what I'm talking about...do you think that if a hook fires in the middle of parsing a simple BASIC program, it would be okay to just reset the stack to what it was before ParseInp and regaining control there? The only potential problem I see is the OP stack, but _CleanAll in theory would fix that.
[10:35:46] < BrandonW> I just don't want to waste the time writing it if there's just going to be some memory leak that's not fixable.
[10:47:23] <+Sir_Lewk> that sounds like it would be ok but make sure to rehash your kernel first
[10:48:11] <+Sir_Lewk> I suggest using SHA1SUM though MD5 will suffice
[10:48:42] < BrandonW> Wouldn't work, anyway.
[10:49:04] < BrandonW> I mean, that may have, but there's no longer a point.
[11:09:43] < BrandonW> I'm guessing an OS patch that wouldn't reset RAM unless you hold down a certain key would be good.
[11:10:51] < BrandonW> When it resets, I mean.
[11:15:36] < BrandonW> Lets you survive resets and you can still manually reset if you want.
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[11:25:19] <@efneTI86> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing?
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[11:26:37] < BrandonW> What's up, rivereye?
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[12:38:10] < al_b> BrandonW I think that would be perfectly OK
[12:38:52] < al_b> I mean, sure you might put the CPU in a metastable state, but the hartley oscillator should compensate for your invarient stack corruption
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[15:45:29] <@efneTI86> [Merthsoft] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
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[16:27:29] <@efneTI86> [Spengo] If at first you don't succeed, you fail.
[16:28:23] <+Nikky> Spengo sucks.
[16:28:39] < Spengo> Nikky sucks.
[16:28:50] <+Nikky> Agreed
[16:28:55] <+Nikky> Party?
[16:31:13] < Spengo> party.
[16:31:22] < Spengo> :D-<
[16:31:25] < Spengo> :D|-<
[16:31:30] < Spengo> :D\-<
[16:31:56] <+Nikky> \o/
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[17:18:24] <+Nikky> Hi _Dig|ghst 
[17:18:35] <+Nikky> Your nick was thefted
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[17:22:37] < i_c-Y> omghai2u
[17:23:43] < _Dig|ghst> took you 24 hours to notice
[17:24:16] < _Dig|ghst> same perv as last time judging from the whois
[17:25:40] <+Nikky> You should turn him in
[17:26:17] < _Dig|ghst> last I checked and heard, this is efnet for there is not turning in?
[17:27:21] <+Nikky> :(
[17:27:35] <+Nikky> Did you convert to Nikon yet?
[17:27:44] <+Nikky> I have
[17:27:49] < _Dig|ghst> hell no
[17:27:54] <+Nikky> Their glass is so amazing
[17:27:59] <+Nikky> (ly bad)
[17:29:04] < i_c-Y> what are you, a canon fan?
[17:29:20] <+Nikky> Hells yes
[17:29:36] < _Dig|ghst> Nikky is a troll, I just use the equipment that works the best. Unless I have no other choice that is
[17:29:58] < i_c-Y> Nikky is not a troll
[17:30:08] < i_c-Y> Nikky is a sincere, intelligent, and caring person who loves all people.
[17:30:08] <+Nikky> :(
[17:30:36] < _Dig|ghst> last time I walked into this room I didn't see smoke billowing out of it when I opened the door
[17:31:04] <+Nikky> ?
[17:31:12] < _Dig|ghst> get off the 'grass'
[17:31:18] <+Nikky> oh
[17:31:37] <+Nikky> I don't live in California
[17:31:42] < _Dig|ghst> we know
[17:31:44] <+Nikky> :)
[17:31:58] <+Nikky> We use designer drugs here.
[17:32:06] < _Dig|ghst> lol
[17:32:17] <+Nikky> Like Estameth
[17:32:21] <+Nikky> it's E and meth combined
[17:32:25] <+Nikky> really makes you trip balls
[17:32:31] < _Dig|ghst> hey, there is a photo of Sleeping Beauty's Castle that we used to use for the backdrop in out green screen composites
[17:33:09] < Randomist> What's the name of that guide that says how you're supposed to make AppVars and program files, etc.
[17:33:23] < Randomist> * format
[17:33:47] < _Dig|ghst> rally crappy photo. Well about 3 weeks ago we (I) reshot it on a canon. Thanks to using Photoshop's HDR feature, everyone loves it.
[17:34:00] < _Dig|ghst> been using it since
[17:34:07] < i_c-Y> jfgi, Randomist >:(
[17:34:25] < _Dig|ghst> we use Nikons at work, but for the really important stuff we use Canons/
[17:34:41] <+Nikky> HDR rules
[17:34:49] <+Nikky> HDR + Canon is love
[17:35:08]  * Nikky gropes _Dig|ghst's telephoto lens ;)
[17:35:10] <+Merthsoft> <3 Canon
[17:35:17] < _Dig|ghst> can't exactly show off the final product since its internal use only though...
[17:35:45] < Randomist> i_c-Y:   I've been doing that for that last fifteen minutes.
[17:37:23] <+Tari_> argh
[17:37:28] <+Tari_> I've got it around somewhere
[17:38:10] <+Tari_> http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/247/24750.html
[17:38:11] <+Tari_> there it is
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[17:43:37] < scabby> harlo
[17:45:18] < i_c-Y> kay
[17:46:09] < Randomist> thanks.
[17:52:13]  * _Dig|ghst pokes Nikky 
[17:53:02]  * i_c-Y pokes _Dig|ghst 
[17:53:11] <+Nikky> I was eating breakfast
[17:53:12] <+Nikky> lover
[17:53:28] < _Dig|ghst> ewe are sick
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[17:54:01] <@efneTI86> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[18:13:28] <@efneTI86> [Tyler2] I speak fluent dialup.
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[18:20:03] <+Sir_Lewk> http://wikileaks.cx/leak/first-atomic-bomb-drawing.jpg
[18:20:23] <+Sir_Lewk> epic lulz are soon going to ensue I predict
[18:20:54] < i_c-Y> you mean ensued?
[18:21:20] <+Nikky> Sir_Lewk: old news
[18:23:04] < i_c-Y> so old its probably on digg's front page
[18:23:15] <+Sir_Lewk> the only real unique thing about those plans are the contain specific information about weights, which, granted could be deduced by any nuclear physicist worth a shit
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[18:24:44] <+Sir_Lewk> the high explosive lensing is also interesting but that's pretty much public knowledge too
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[19:04:14] < Barrett> It's been 8 weeks... why is Bynum still sitting out?
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[19:07:17] <@efneTI86> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[19:15:10] < boxknife> I have a question about the example program in this tutorial at http://dragonfire.unitedti.org/asmin28/lesson/day21.html
[19:15:28] < boxknife> What is IY set to as the program begins and what sets it?
[19:15:39] <+HQAT> Umm
[19:15:53] <+HQAT> IY is always set to _Flags
[19:16:09] <+HQAT> its te beginning of some place in memory where the system flags are stored...
[19:16:17] < boxknife> Ahh
[19:16:22] < boxknife> Thanks
[19:16:28] <+TD-Linux> the TI-OS sets it as that
[19:16:47] <+HQAT> And it is always set to that value... you can change it if you want to but make sure you change it back if you program exits..
[19:16:55] <+TD-Linux> because it accesses memory near _Flags often enough that it is more efficient to always have the value in the register
[19:17:25] < boxknife> Ah, I see.
[19:18:30] <+TD-Linux> there is nothing different about iy than ix, so feel free to use it - only TI-OS expects it to = _Flags when your program exits, so make sure to do that first... I'm repeating HQAT there :P
[19:18:53] < boxknife> Gotcha
[19:20:22] < boxknife> And I feel a little dense for asking, but what's in AppFlags and AppTextSave, precisely?
[19:21:39] < boxknife> AppTextSave is apparently the number of the bit to reset, but what is AppFlags?
[19:22:34] <+HQAT> Appflags is a offset that is added to _Flags and that refers to a byte... AppTextSave is the bit number of that byte...
[19:23:20] < boxknife> Ah, thanks. So the Appflags offset is for that particular program?
[19:23:49] < boxknife> Or is it some sort of universal thing
[19:23:51] <+HQAT> Umm AppFlags is just a byte that contains multiple flags about Apps and AppTextSave is a number between 0 and 7 that indicates wich bit...
[19:24:03] <+HQAT> It is defined in the ti83plus.inc file
[19:24:03] <+HQAT> so yes it is universal
[19:24:11] < boxknife> Ah, I gotcha. Thanks guys
[19:24:35] < boxknife> going to stew over this while I eat
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[19:50:14] <+bsparks> BY the way!
[19:50:42] <@E-J> bulgarian yoghurt the way
[19:51:59] <+bsparks> yup
[19:52:07] < i_c-Y> so E-J 
[19:52:11] < i_c-Y> how are you?
[19:52:26] < i_c-Y> i remember having angry words for you yesterday
[19:52:30] < i_c-Y> but i dont seem to remember why
[19:55:24] <@E-J> äh, it was bratislawa youghurt
[19:55:45] <@E-J> i don't remember that, maybe it was during night
[19:59:42] <+bsparks> pssssst
[19:59:42] <+bsparks> "<DJ_Omnimaga> there will not be any future, i am just sending your IP to the guy i was talking about earlier so he finds your home address. He got Nikky's and IIRC BrandonW or Andy_J. He's just waiting the moment to start doing his stuff to all those who lost respect against me (those who caused me trouble)"
[19:59:52] <+bsparks> just fyi :)
[20:00:41] <@E-J> i'm almost scared ... not
[20:02:01] <+bsparks> even better
[20:02:03] <+bsparks> [03:21:55] <DJ_Omnimaga> well
[20:02:03] <+bsparks> [03:21:59] <DJ_Omnimaga> you know
[20:02:03] <+bsparks> [03:22:10] <DJ_Omnimaga> one person i know online...
[20:02:03] <+bsparks> [03:22:18] <DJ_Omnimaga> if he was online more often and less busy
[20:02:03] <+bsparks> [03:22:26] <DJ_Omnimaga> there would be no more TI community by now
[20:02:07] <+bsparks> [03:22:34] <Zeromus> hmm?
[20:02:09] <+bsparks> [03:22:45] <DJ_Omnimaga> everything, except maybe customly made sites (aka no premade cms) would be gone
[20:02:10] <+bsparks> [03:23:06] <Zeromus> explain thyself
[20:02:12] <+bsparks> [03:23:08] <DJ_Omnimaga> and the IRC channels that cannot be cracked would be spammed to death
[20:02:12] -!- bsparks was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI92 [flood]
[20:02:16] < Randomist> OMG, WTF, LOL.
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[20:02:58] <+bsparks> hmm, did you catch the irc chan line? :D
[20:03:07] < Randomist> [03:23:08] <DJ_Omnimaga> and the IRC channels that cannot be cracked would be spammed to death
[20:03:16] <+bsparks> yup :)
[20:05:10] < Randomist> Dude's crazier than I thought.
[20:05:43] <+bsparks> by the way, my home address is 1534 Greenscape Blvd, Westerville Ohio 43081
[20:07:42] <@E-J> thanks, now i know where i send my anthrax powder
[20:08:03] <@E-J> :)
[20:08:14] <+bsparks> I'll get mail! SWEET!
[20:08:41] <@E-J> but my address is so easy to find that i won't even say it
[20:08:43] <+bsparks> I hope he sends a bomb, that would be killer
[20:11:16] <@Andy_J> 429 N Hawkins #214, Akron, OH 44313-6174
[20:11:33] <+bsparks> ooh, you even know the 4 digit one
[20:11:40] <@Andy_J> My phone bill does. :)
[20:11:45] <+bsparks> I forgot mine, it has 9s, 2s, and 6s I believe
[20:12:18] <@Andy_J> What guy was he talking about earlier?
[20:12:37] <+bsparks> I have no idea :P
[20:12:43] <@Andy_J> Also, it's not like my address is hiding.
[20:12:53] <@Andy_J> whois my domain and you have my dad's address
[20:13:01] <@Andy_J> OH NOES! THAT'S HAXING!
[20:13:29] <+bsparks> ahhhhhhh!!!
[20:13:40] <@Andy_J> I lost respect for him because he didn't deserve any respect.
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[20:13:42] <@efneTI86> [Spengo] If at first you don't succeed, you fail.
[20:13:51] <@Andy_J> Shit, that line probably crossed didn't it
[20:13:52] <@Andy_J> :o
[20:13:54] <@Andy_J> * :p
[20:14:04] <@E-J> i remember when he was normal
[20:14:13] < Spengo> whoah
[20:14:17] <+bsparks> he was a pretty cool dude, when he was normal
[20:14:17] <@Andy_J> bsparks: I'm tearing through gh2/360 :)
[20:14:18] < Spengo> someone in this channel used to be normal?
[20:14:19] < Spengo> no way!
[20:14:49] <+bsparks> Andy_J, really? I ought to pick it up for the hell of it, $49.99 at best buy :P with guitar! :D
[20:14:59] <@Andy_J> I got it $35 used at gamestop
[20:14:59] <@E-J> and i was shocked when he came here after change and sudenly started "JUST F*CKING STOP"
[20:15:11] <@E-J> suddenly*
[20:15:14] <@Andy_J> If I'd want another guitar I'd want an LP not a shitsplorer
[20:15:30] <+bsparks> I have not had a single good LP experince
[20:15:40] <@Andy_J> haha, http://www.scorehero.com/compare.php?user=41030&user2=52545&group=2&game=3&diff=4
[20:15:45] <@Andy_J> LPs are awesome
[20:15:51] <@Andy_J> except the ps3 one
[20:15:55] <@Andy_J> it blows
[20:16:02] <+bsparks> everyone says LPs are awesome, but meh
[20:16:08] <@Andy_J> because they are
[20:16:13] <@Andy_J> especially after you solder the neck wires
[20:16:16] <+bsparks> and to be honest, the ps3 lp was my best experince of them all
[20:16:21] <+bsparks> it just ate through batteries
[20:16:28] <@Andy_J> lmao I'm 15 points behind DSP_Lord on Dead!
[20:16:38] <@Andy_J> ... with 4% more notes
[20:16:52] <@Andy_J> ... and there's somebody between us
[20:17:04] <@Andy_J> wait what
[20:17:15] <+bsparks> o.0
[20:17:27] <@Andy_J> no tie for 1203rd, NOBODY in 1204th, 2-way tie for 1205th
[20:17:35] <@Andy_J> ... it isn't even a tie
[20:17:38] <+bsparks> lol
[20:17:47] <@Andy_J> Something that'll resolve itself at the next DB scan I suppose
[20:18:18] <@Andy_J> DSP_Lord: we need a gh2 rivalry :P
[20:18:31] <@Andy_J> hell all 3 of us
[20:19:30] <+TD-Linux> bsparks? are you serious/
[20:19:33] < Randomist> Do the linking programs make any changes to the files sent to the calculator before it sends them?  Does the comment get changed?
[20:19:37] <+TD-Linux> that's your address/
[20:19:45] <+bsparks> TD-Linux, yup, why?
[20:19:47] <+TD-Linux> and my shift key is dead btw
[20:19:52] <@Andy_J> what are you going to do, mail him a bomb?
[20:20:04] <@Andy_J> bsparks: http://www.scorehero.com/scores.php?user=52545&group=2&game=3&diff=4 :)
[20:20:08] <+TD-Linux> I got your box
[20:20:13] <+TD-Linux> boobytrapped with the ink tag
[20:20:31] <+TD-Linux> thankfully my laptop was already black
[20:21:05] <+bsparks> lol
[20:21:22]  * Randomist wonders if making threats like that are illegal... maybe someone can get him arrested.
[20:21:25] < Randomist> That'd be kind of funny...
[20:21:40] < Randomist> * DJ_Omnimgaa
[20:21:45] <@Andy_J> Oh, I'm sure we have enough against him if we really wanted to.
[20:21:50] <@Andy_J> But we really don't care.
[20:21:56] <+bsparks> nope
[20:22:07] <+TD-Linux> he'll probably get killed by someone else soon enough
[20:22:09] <@Andy_J> You hear that? I know you're out there pilfering logs somewhere.
[20:22:28] <+TD-Linux> probably the people he's (not) paying to hax BrandonW
[20:22:44] <+bsparks> OMGONSPIRACY
[20:22:54] <+TD-Linux> I donate a C to that
[20:22:58] <+bsparks> no
[20:23:06] <+bsparks> it's an omgonspiracy
[20:23:13] <+TD-Linux> I see
[20:23:42] <+bsparks> comgonspiracy?
[20:24:00] <+bsparks> mmm, spicy.. food time!
[20:24:26] <+TD-Linux> I suppose we don't know DJ_Omnimaga's address yet?
[20:25:35] <+TD-Linux> I should mail one of you guys for fun
[20:26:12] < Randomist> What if this ends up on Google and all y'alls addresses show up?
[20:26:27] <+TD-Linux> what's the difference between the two ohio addresses
[20:26:31] <+TD-Linux> Randomist, then we get lots of donations :D
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[20:35:37] <@Andy_J> Randomist: the logs are already on google
[20:35:39] <@Andy_J> I really don't care
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[20:36:47] <@efneTI86> [Kira] We called it Sin.
[20:37:02] < Randomist> Uh-oh, DJ Insanity is back.
[20:37:41] < Kira> ?
[20:37:42] <+Merthsoft> TD-Linux: mail me something
[20:37:59] < Kira> I had a pretty messed up dream last night
[20:41:26] <+Merthsoft> oh?
[20:41:33] <+Merthsoft> were you sending me a C63?
[20:41:41] < i_c-Y> <+TD-Linux> I should mail one of you guys for fun < easy to mail BrandonW - look on the calcporn whois
[20:42:57] < Kira> no
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[20:48:47] <@efneTI86> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[20:54:20] < Kira> wtf
[20:54:21] < Kira> [03:58:49pm] <r1sky> 580 9th street
[20:54:21] < Kira> [03:58:54pm] <r1sky> richmond california 94801
[20:54:42] < millinao> hmm?
[20:57:26] < Kira> no idea
[20:57:29] < Kira> random guy pmsg me
[20:58:16] <+bsparks> lol
[20:59:16] < millinao> oh wtf
[20:59:38] < millinao> mail him an image of goatse or something
[20:59:51] <+bsparks> lol
[21:00:00] <+Merthsoft> everyday for a year
[21:00:26] < millinao> mail him everyday a notecard with a decreasing number on it
[21:00:38] < millinao> first day, a notecard that says "55"
[21:00:44] < millinao> next day, "54"
[21:00:49] < Kira> yes, we get it
[21:01:01] < Kira> and on the last day he'll commit suicide
[21:01:02] < Kira> tragedy
[21:01:04] < millinao> and then do nothing on the last day
[21:01:06] <+bsparks> o.o
[21:01:09] <+Merthsoft> wait, what?
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[21:01:12] <+Merthsoft> millinao: you're a retard
[21:01:20] < Kira> he'll think he's going to die
[21:01:30] < millinao> what
[21:01:39] < Kira> because of the counting down
[21:01:42] < Kira> counting down to his death
[21:01:48] < Kira> he'll realize around 40 or so
[21:01:53] < millinao> hmm, I guess that does sound like a death threat
[21:01:59] < Kira> so then he'll try to enjoy the best of his days
[21:02:04] < Kira> and then he'll kill himself on the last day
[21:02:11] < Kira> to avoid being killed by someone else
[21:02:23] < Kira> it's a story
[21:02:31] < millinao> oh, it is?
[21:02:35] < Kira> yeah
[21:02:40] < Kira> not sure what it's called
[21:02:50] <+Merthsoft> ARGH MY HEAD ITCHES OMGOMOMGOOMGOMGOMGOGMGOMGOMGG
[21:02:51] < Kira> but theres a story of pretty much of that
[21:02:56] < millinao> oh, haha
[21:02:57] < Kira> Merthsoft: scratch it!
[21:03:00] < Kira> or uh, wash your hair
[21:03:09] < millinao> get a hair cut
[21:03:35] <+bsparks> SCALP YOURSELF!
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[21:07:40] <+bsparks> I an on IRC, on mmy stovetop!
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[21:18:12] <+TD-Linux> bsparks, ouch
[21:18:16] <+TD-Linux> there is one thing worse
[21:18:42] <+TD-Linux> running a 4-threaded render on a laptop while chatting on irc
[21:19:15] <+bsparks> no, literally
[21:19:22] <+bsparks> my laptop was on my stove :)
[21:20:57] <+TD-Linux> my laptop could pwn your stove any day
[21:21:08] <+bsparks> prolly
[21:22:41] < millinao> reddit.com/r/WTF/ ftw
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[21:33:06] < millinao> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWXA8xvaYy4 this is what the internet is made for
[21:36:02] < Randomist> In PHP, is this how I'd change an integer to 16-bit Little Edian:  pack("v*", $integer)
[21:36:36] < millinao> Ok?
[21:38:41] <+incubus[]> ..
[21:38:46] <+bsparks>   .
[21:38:56] <+Merthsoft>    .
[21:38:59] <+Merthsoft>    .
[21:39:02] <+Merthsoft>   .
[21:39:04] <+Merthsoft> ..
[21:39:08] <+Merthsoft> yay!
[21:39:11] <+bsparks> :P
[21:41:52] <+bsparks> _
[21:41:54] <+bsparks>  \
[21:41:56] <+bsparks>  |
[21:41:59] <+bsparks>  / 
[21:42:01] <+bsparks> _
[21:42:06] <+Merthsoft> :(
[21:42:06] <+bsparks> :P
[21:42:07] <+Merthsoft> lame
[21:42:10] <+bsparks> I fail
[21:42:13] <+bsparks> ¯\(°_O)/¯
[21:42:13] <+Merthsoft> indeed
[21:42:18] <+Merthsoft> _
[21:42:19] <+Merthsoft>  \
[21:42:21] <+Merthsoft>  |
[21:42:22] <+Merthsoft>  /
[21:42:23] <+Merthsoft> ¯
[21:43:04] <+bsparks> _
[21:43:04] <+bsparks>  \
[21:43:07] <+bsparks>   |
[21:43:08] <+bsparks>  /
[21:43:14] <+bsparks> ¯
[21:43:18] <+incubus[]> there should seriously be a Law over spoiling children in the US, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=konX2e5yJE8
[21:43:26] <+incubus[]> My first car was a 5 Year old Ford Explorer with 90,000 miles, and I was so happy to have ANY car I nearly cried
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[21:44:20] < Netham45> yea
[21:44:30] < Netham45> I'd be perfectly happy with a Ford Festiva from 1990.
[21:44:40] < Netham45> I want a used van, though.
[21:44:41] <+Merthsoft> i had a 1995 ford escort wagon
[21:44:59] <+bsparks> I had for a while, a 1981 izuzu truck
[21:45:00] <+Merthsoft> my parents gave it to me, and a year later it died, so i bought a 1998 ford taurus
[21:45:14] < Netham45> heh
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[21:45:23] < Netham45> I want a van so I can mount computers on the back walls.
[21:46:01] <+incubus[]> I'd be happy with a 1960 Moon Rover
[21:46:14] < millinao> The car I want is a 3000$ crappy old van
[21:46:15] <+bsparks> incubus[], dude, that would soooooo be sweet
[21:46:17] < Netham45> yea
[21:46:22] <+incubus[]> bsparks, hehe I'd drive it :D
[21:46:26] <+bsparks> slow as hell, but sweet
[21:46:26] < Netham45> a crappy old van would be perfect
[21:46:28] < Netham45> as long as it goes.
[21:46:39] <+incubus[]> I'd be happy with a scooter
[21:46:52] <+incubus[]> do they have street legal scooters?
[21:46:56] < millinao> no
[21:47:03] < Netham45> vespa
[21:47:03] < Kira> no
[21:47:54] <+TD-Linux> want to see something really sick?
[21:48:02] <+TD-Linux> (you might have already)
[21:48:12] < millinao> sure
[21:48:16] <+TD-Linux> http://www.instructables.com/id/LED-Throwie-Rat-or-Mouse/
[21:48:28] <+incubus[]> Vespas aren't street legal here
[21:48:41] < Netham45> they are here
[21:48:45] < millinao> yeah, I saw that
[21:48:46] < Netham45> but it's like 30F outside
[21:48:50] < Netham45> so noone has one. :D
[21:51:12] < Netham45> "That'd be interesting, Grandma LED throwie"
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[21:55:43] <+bsparks> o.o;;; lolol
[21:56:19] <+bsparks> in ohio, I could be pulled over [ on an unlucky day ] for breaking the legal limit for speed on a bicycle
[21:56:29] <+bsparks> because I regularly go over 20mph :P
[21:57:01] < scabby> ehh 20mph isn't even that fast on a bike??
[21:57:23] <+bsparks> guess in ohio it is
[21:58:39] < millinao> wtf, there's a speed limit on bicycles?
[21:58:47] <+incubus[]> Did you know Marijuana is nearly completely decriminalized in Ohio, surprisingly
[21:59:30] < Kira> Did you know alcohol is about 10x more harmful than marijuana?
[21:59:35] <+incubus[]> 10x?
[21:59:42]  * scabby has another whisky
[21:59:43] <+incubus[]> I think DEATH as a side effect quantifies more than 10
[22:00:05] < Kira> aside from death
[22:00:07] <+incubus[]> hehe
[22:00:07] <+Merthsoft> ohio is a dumb state
[22:00:22] < millinao> it is more dangerous than marijuana, but you just pulled the 10x out of your ass
[22:00:38] < Kira> I sure did
[22:00:39] < BrandonW> What's this? DJ_Omnimaga is trying to get me in trouble with my ISP or something?
[22:00:55] <+incubus[]> millinao, well how can you quantify nearly Zero Medical Danger vs. Life Threatening Danger?
[22:00:55] < BrandonW> I haven't said a word to the guy in months.
[22:00:56] <+Merthsoft> your mom is an ISP
[22:00:58] < BrandonW> He needs to drop it.
[22:01:05] <+incubus[]> 10x? 1000x? OOx?
[22:01:35] < millinao> howbout not using quantities at all
[22:01:41] <+bsparks> BrandonW, you my have said I passing word bout him in here :P
[22:01:43] <+incubus[]> millinao, Medically there needs to be
[22:01:48] <+incubus[]> not the 10-fold crap though
[22:01:52] <+incubus[]> Thresholds and such
[22:02:04] <+incubus[]> I saw a doctor's post yesterday, "Weed can Kill", direct quote
[22:02:20] < BrandonW> bsparks, I can say whatever the hell I want about anyone I want in here or anywhere else. I'm perfectly in my right to say that he needs to drop this crusade against me and everyone else.
[22:02:21] <+incubus[]> http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/383781
[22:02:47] <+bsparks> BrandonW, bingo :)
[22:03:05] < BrandonW> Where's this thing you pasted, anyway?
[22:03:06]  * Merthsoft picks up a sword.
[22:03:11]  * Merthsoft stabs BrandonW.
[22:03:26] < BrandonW> Normally I wouldn't give a damn, but if he's coming after me for some stupid reason, I want to know about it.
[22:04:16] <+bsparks> BrandonW, pmsg
[22:04:39] < BrandonW> Alright, I'm dropping it. Not worth the typing.
[22:04:48] <+bsparks> thar you go :P
[22:08:28]  * Randomist doesn't think he can do bull.
[22:09:07] < BrandonW> I just hope everyone sees what's happening here...the only time he comes up in this channel is when he launches some new verbal attack against us, or me and a couple others.
[22:09:17] < BrandonW> Because we offended him somehow in his own channel, which we don't go near anymore.
[22:10:23] < BrandonW> Or because we criticized him kicking or banning one of us from his own channel because we somehow offended him.
[22:12:13] < Kira> in other words he's crazy
[22:12:23] < Randomist> Really crazy.
[22:12:35] < BrandonW> You said it, not me.
[22:13:55] < Kira> incubus[]: he also took some medicine while he was high
[22:14:04] < Kira> which can sometimes have weird effects
[22:15:28] < Randomist> DJ_Omnimaga's been on Cloud Nine?
[22:17:07] < Randomist> It would not surprise me...
[22:19:52] < BrandonW> Randomist, when you mentioned that OS patch about resetting a while back, what did you say exactly?
[22:20:00] < BrandonW> I can't remember what it was.
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[22:20:13] <@efneTI86> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[22:28:33] < Randomist> BrandonW:  It displayed some weird quit error, and then reset.
[22:29:10] < Randomist> Or at least that is the last thing I remember.
[22:29:22] < BrandonW> What did?
[22:29:32] < BrandonW> I mean you had some idea about having the OS not clear RAM on a reset.
[22:29:39] < BrandonW> Or restore it from the extra RAM pages, or something.
[22:29:46] < Randomist> Oh, yeah.
[22:30:51] < Randomist> It would back the RAM up every time you turn off the calc (or you could do it manually), then if it gets reset, it'd restore the last snapshot.
[22:31:36] < BrandonW> I'm not sure I'm okay with that.
[22:31:45] < BrandonW> That's really no different from RestoreMem(.
[22:32:01] < BrandonW> Except it automagically does it on reset instead of you explicitly restoring it.
[22:32:12] < Randomist> Perhaps it'd say that your calc got reset and ask if you want to restore.
[22:32:18] <@Andy_J> Merthsoft, bsparks: If I were at my keyboard when you guys were doing that, neither of you would be here for a couple hours.
[22:32:29] <+Merthsoft> say what?
[22:32:35] < BrandonW> Your flooding of the channel.
[22:32:42] <+bsparks> Andy_J, I did it BECAUSE you were gone :>
[22:32:55] <+Merthsoft> hmm
[22:32:57] <+Merthsoft> damn
[22:33:03] < BrandonW> Randomist: if you're going to make it do something on reset, it would make sense to have it be some sort of stealth or fake memory clear thing. Anything else like you're talking about is just convenience and there's not much of a point.
[22:33:10] <+Merthsoft> five lines in a row, when no one else was really doing anything
[22:33:25] <+Merthsoft> fascist pigs
[22:33:40] <+Tari_> capitalist rats
[22:34:16] <+Merthsoft> existentialist filth.
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[22:34:51]  * Merthsoft rebels
[22:37:23] < Randomist> How does the whole saving/restore work anyway?  Does it just LDIR the whole thing from address $XXXX to address $YYYY and copy it back when you restore, or is it more complicated than that?
[22:37:51] <+Tari_> more complicated
[22:38:09] <+Tari_> just copying it could give you a screwed up VAT (if things in the archive changed)
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[22:38:44] <+Tari_> or even if apps that had hooks were moved/deleted
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[22:38:51] < BrandonW> What I was just going to do was have it not clear RAM when the calculator resets. If you screwed up memory somehow and you REALLY DO need to reset, then you can hold a certain key down on reset and then it'll actually do it.
[22:39:04] < BrandonW> Which renders any sort of reset useless unless you know the key, which a teacher or whoever wont'.
[22:39:06] < BrandonW> won't.*
[22:40:11] <@Andy_J> I would be an annoying math teacher.
[22:40:15] <@Andy_J> Since I would know all the tricks. :)
[22:40:35] <+ports> Andy_J, you are annoying ?:)
[22:40:43] <@Andy_J> :p
[22:40:51] < BrandonW> The key you use could be configurable.
[22:40:56] < BrandonW> But there are only so many keys to try.
[22:41:03]  * Randomist decided to go ahead and make an oline version of the lyric converter for now...
[22:41:03] < BrandonW> Not sure it's worth the effort.
[22:41:10] < BrandonW> Randomist, damn it...
[22:41:13] < BrandonW> That is USELESS.
[22:41:17] < BrandonW> You NEED to compile it.
[22:41:26] <@Andy_J> Would it catch stuff from the bootloader? :p
[22:41:37] < BrandonW> What, the patch?
[22:41:42] < Randomist> I know, but I could get it done _now_ and don't have to wait until I understand enough of another programming language to do so.
[22:41:56] < BrandonW> Yeah, but it's definitely worth it for you to know a language you can compile.
[22:42:01] < BrandonW> You can't really call yourself a programmer until you do.
[22:42:10] < BrandonW> The purpose of this project is to learn, anyway.
[22:42:28] < Randomist> I'll do the online converter now, then do the compiled one later.
[22:42:34] < BrandonW> You say that, but you won't.
[22:42:40] <+ports> is python compilable?
[22:42:47] <+HQAT> Randomist: Is asm the first language your learning?
[22:42:51] < BrandonW> Not normally, but it's possible.
[22:42:57] <+ports> didnt think so
[22:43:00] < BrandonW> HQAT, he knows BASIC, PHP, and other stuff.
[22:43:02] <+ports> its more scripting
[22:43:29] <+HQAT> Hmm I beleive you can compile php? Anyway you should learn c++... it rocks... :D
[22:43:44] < BrandonW> Andy_J, if you meant me about the bootloader thing, yes, what it would be patching is the jump at 0053h...the boot code would give control directly to me.
[22:44:00] <@Andy_J> Interesting.
[22:44:08] <@Andy_J> The boot code itself doesn't do any ram clears does it? =\
[22:44:15] < BrandonW> No, the OS does it.
[22:44:23] < Randomist> HQAT:  PHP -> BASIC -> ASM.
[22:44:55] <@Andy_J> Well, there's always pulling the batteries to clear RAM ... but if the OS is patched such that the reset menu doesn't work as advertised, then yeah I guess that would be teacher-proof.
[22:45:06] < BrandonW> It sets up all the protected ports, checks for a validated OS (with bytes at 0056h), checks for any keypresses, and if no, jumps to 0053h.
[22:45:06] <@Andy_J> In which case I will continue to not consider being a teacher. :)
[22:45:39] < BrandonW> Andy_J, the only way the RAM's going to reset that way is if you take out the backup battery, which a teacher probably won't take the time to unscrew.
[22:45:49] <@Andy_J> I would. :)
[22:45:59] <+ports> BrandonW, i have some stargate atlantis questions
[22:46:05] < BrandonW> Fire away.
[22:46:36] <+ports> in SG-1 wasnt there a "Genii" race.. it was similar to earth in the 1950s... where Jonas came from?
[22:46:42] < BrandonW> No, there wasn't.
[22:46:51] < BrandonW> Jonas came from...
[22:46:54] < BrandonW> I'm trying to think of the name...
[22:47:08] < BrandonW> Kelowna.
[22:47:14] <+ports> oh
[22:47:18] <@Andy_J> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonas_Quinn
[22:47:23] <+ports> im watching S01E08 on SG Atlantis..
[22:47:36] <+ports> and i thought the Genii, people trying to make atomic bombs, where in SG-1 too
[22:47:42] < BrandonW> Season 1 was really good.
[22:47:52] < BrandonW> The Siege is my all-time favorite three-parter.
[22:48:05] <@Andy_J> BrandonW: Have you watched Ark of Truth yet?
[22:48:15] <@Andy_J> I need to watch it with commentary enabled at some point...
[22:48:35] < BrandonW> I downloaded and watched it, but it wasn't at Wal-Mart when I looked.
[22:48:50] <+ports> you torrented it that day i mentioned it didnt you?
[22:49:17] <@Andy_J> I went in to Wal-Mart at about 12:15 on Tuesday and got it.
[22:49:30] <@Andy_J> PM, of course.
[22:49:38] < BrandonW> It took forever to even find where it WAS.
[22:49:40] <@Andy_J> My Wal-Mart is a weird non-24-hour one.
[22:49:53] < BrandonW> ports, probably.
[22:49:59] <@Andy_J> I almost walked right by it.
[22:50:02] <+ports> Andy_J, i happened to see a commercial like 3 days before it was supposed to release on dvd.. so i looked it up online, and it was already being distributed on torrents
[22:50:41] < BrandonW> Normally I'd just torrent it and be done with it, but I want to help their DVD sales, so I'll definitely go buy it.
[22:51:13] <+ports> yep
[22:51:31] <+ports> its tough when the funding for the next movie is teetering on the dvd sales of the previos
[22:51:31] <@Andy_J> How long do you figure Atlantis will go on?
[22:51:51] <@Andy_J> I thought they had most of the next one done?
[22:52:02] <+ports> Andy_J, i dont know
[22:52:11] <@Andy_J> I can see more of them depending on how well these do, but I'm pretty sure the next one is pretty much done.
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[22:52:30] < Randomist> Oh, boy.  Netsplit.
[22:52:30] <+ports> like Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay... they were only going to do that if the dvd sales generated enough money
[22:52:55] < BrandonW> The first two SG-1 movies are going to happen. Any more depend on sales from the first two.
[22:53:00] <@Andy_J> I don't have any Atlantis DVDs because I don't see the point in getting them one by one and spending more in the long run.
[22:53:19] <@Andy_J> Currently, I have Stargate, SG-1 Collectors' Edition, and The Ark of Truth
[22:53:19] < BrandonW> Atlantis will go on at least two more years.
[22:53:21] <+ports> yeah
[22:53:31] < BrandonW> You have to hit the golden 7 years.
[22:53:35] < BrandonW> Like all the Star Trek shows.
[22:53:36] <+ports> Andy_J, the concept of the collectors edition was a good one
[22:53:41] <@Andy_J> I still need to watch all of SG-1's commentary...
[22:53:56] <@Andy_J> That will take another 4 months. :)
[22:54:23] < BrandonW> I want to know more about this Stargate Universe show.
[22:54:24]  * Randomist never sees the point in buying DVDs, period, unless you like it so much, you're going to watch it over and over again, or unless you're gonna sell it to someone for more.
[22:54:29] < Randomist> * than you paid for it.
[22:54:34] < BrandonW> Yeah, me neither.
[22:54:50] <+ports> Randomist, well. last year my friend bought the dvd set of Sex and the City.
[22:54:53] <@Andy_J> I will revist some of SG-1 at some point in the future.
[22:54:56] <@Andy_J> It's good enough for it.
[22:54:59] <+ports> i helped her burn copies of it and she and 2 other people split it
[22:55:18] <+ports> it can be a cheap way to have on-demand access to your favorite show
[22:55:19] <@Andy_J> It was worth it to see the old eps in just-filmed-yesterday quality
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[22:57:37] <@E-J> i have bought some movie dvd's, some because they were cheap, some because they were classics (f.ex. das boot, star wreck)
[22:59:03] < glk> The local supermarket has older DVD for $1 each
[22:59:14] <+ports> BrandonW, do you have the episodes for any of SG-1?
[22:59:18] <@E-J> star wreck i bought also because of support
[22:59:24] <+ports> whats star wreck
[22:59:26] < BrandonW> I have all of it torrented in good quality.
[22:59:57] <+ports> BrandonW, nice. im trying to start an SG-1 torrent now for S07-10
[23:00:07] <+ports> BrandonW, what kind of drive space do you have?
[23:00:25] <@E-J> ports: http://www.starwreck.com/
[23:00:59] < BrandonW> ports, around 2TB.
[23:01:10] <+ports> E-J, oh.. Star Wreck is like Space Balls
[23:01:37] <+ports> BW, nice.. ive got 1.2tb.. it's kinda full
[23:02:05]  * Kira only has S01-02 of SG-1 and has only watched the first season
[23:02:24] <+ports> i havent been able to watch much past the end of S06
[23:03:12] < BrandonW> Season 6 was mostly filler, looking back on it.
[23:03:16] < BrandonW> It had its good moments, though.
[23:03:32] <+ports> UPN liked to repeat episodes from S06 a lot
[23:04:13] < Kira> I didn't know UPN showed SG-1
[23:04:27] <+ports> they did in Chicago
[23:04:38] < Kira> then again I haven't really watch tv at all in the past two years
[23:04:46] <+ports> do you have UPN in texas?
[23:04:50] < Kira> yeah
[23:04:55] < Kira> it's channel 21 here
[23:05:04] <+ports> oh ok. ive never been to texas
[23:05:12] < boxknife> I thought channel 21 was the discovery channel in Texas
[23:05:19] < Kira> local channel it's 21
[23:05:27] < Kira> discovery channel isn't local at all
[23:05:35] <+ports> lol
[23:05:41] < boxknife> lol
[23:05:48] < Kira> what?
[23:05:59] <+ports> when i was a kid i thought WGN was chicago only, and no one else knew what Bozo the Clown was.
[23:06:09] < Kira> you can only get discovery channel through cable and satellite tv
[23:06:17] < boxknife> Yeah
[23:06:42] < Kira> so what were you lol'ing at?
[23:06:55] < boxknife> Me?
[23:07:12] < Kira> yeah
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[23:07:37] < boxknife> I was just laughing with ports. I'm just convivial like that
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[23:07:47] < Kira> bah
[23:08:20] < boxknife> I haven't sat down to watch TV in about three or four years.
[23:08:23] <@E-J> Kira wants to fight?
[23:09:02] <+ports> oh man
[23:09:09] <+ports> im excited about mario kart wii
[23:09:35] < Kira> mario kart wii?
[23:09:40] < Kira> E-J: no
[23:09:54] <+HQAT> ; In: DE - Pointer to the node that has to be deleted
[23:09:55] <+HQAT> ;     HL - Pointer to the reference node
[23:10:03] <+HQAT> oops
[23:10:32] < BrandonW> The code people accidentally paste in here is usually pretty scary.
[23:10:32] <+ports> yes
[23:10:37] < boxknife> At least it wasn't part of a TS log
[23:10:38] <+ports> mario kart for the wii!
[23:11:24] <@E-J> // Brandon will never see this
[23:11:30] <@E-J> ups
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[23:18:00] <@Andy_J> /* You are not expected to understand this. */
[23:18:56] <@Andy_J> ( "[Unix] The canonical comment describing something magic or too complicated to bother explaining properly. From an infamous comment in the context-switching code of the V6 Unix kernel. Dennis Ritchie has explained this in detail." )
[23:19:05] <@Andy_J> Surely someone got the reference.
[23:20:28] < BrandonW> I will use that as a comment now.
[23:22:49]  * chronomex waves
[23:25:14] <@E-J> cosin or sin?
[23:25:31] <+chronomex> tangent
[23:27:59] <+ports> sin/cos = tangent
[23:35:04] < BrandonW> Oh, I didn't even think to put PongOS on the Nspire.
[23:35:22] < BrandonW> Here I was trying to think of something to overwrite the OS with...
[23:35:28] < BrandonW> And there it was staring me in the face.
[23:36:30] < Randomist> What kind of checksum is at the end of every calc variable?
[23:36:34] < Randomist> Is it CRC-16 or something?
[23:36:41] < BrandonW> It's in the link protocol guide.
[23:36:50] < BrandonW> It's just the sum of all the data bytes.
[23:36:54] < BrandonW> Truncated to 16-bits.
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[23:43:35]  * Randomist tries to figure out how to that part in PHP.
[23:44:14] < BrandonW> fseek to the start of the data bytes, and keep going until size-2 and keep adding up each byte.
[23:44:23] < BrandonW> Truncate that to 16-bits, and write it to the last two bytes.
[23:44:32] < BrandonW> That's how you'd fix a checksum in an already-existing file.
[23:44:45] < BrandonW> If you're making a new one, just start keeping track of the sum with every data byte you write.
[23:45:39] < i_c-Y> hm
[23:45:43] < Randomist> Can I do that with a string of data?
[23:45:58] < i_c-Y> santana must be pretty desperate given that he did something with nickelback
[23:46:00] < BrandonW> Why not? Loop through each character and add it all up.
[23:46:03] < Randomist> I went and did $input = get_file_contents($file_name)
[23:46:12] <+chronomex> BrandonW: have you succeeded?!?
[23:46:16] < BrandonW> In what?
[23:46:22] <+chronomex> Nspire
[23:46:29] <+chronomex> 16:40:13 < BrandonW> Oh, I didn't even think to put PongOS on the Nspire.
[23:46:33] < BrandonW> The 84+SE part has been broken since the day I bought it.
[23:46:36] <+chronomex> right
[23:46:41] < BrandonW> Don't have any access to the Nspire part.
[23:46:43] <+chronomex> ah
[23:46:46] <+chronomex> bummer
[23:46:47] < BrandonW> You can put PongOS on the 84+SE emulator, sure.
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[23:47:39] < BrandonW> I just never thought to do it.
[23:47:46] < BrandonW> I'd have to manually write it...
[23:48:01] < BrandonW> Not even the boot code on it can overwrite the OS.
[23:48:10] < Barrett> Texas A&M is going down.
[23:48:20] < BrandonW> I suppose it's easier to just modify LinkMan to use a different WriteFlash routine.
[23:48:33] < Barrett> And then UCLA is going down.
[23:48:36] < BrandonW> Assuming I still have a working build of it.
[23:48:50] < BrandonW> I tore apart the OS-receiving code a while back.
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