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[00:00:23] < Randomist> Everyone's computers will spontaneously die the moment I stepped foot in the city. :P
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[00:25:17] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!!
[00:25:29] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Sir_Lewk] by efneTI89, etaonrish
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[00:36:04] < i_c-Y> hello Randomist 
[00:37:42] < Randomist> Yay, the exterminator has arrived, but the pest has grown silent.
[00:40:24] <@Grue> If the exterminator arrived, why are you still here?
[00:40:29] <@Grue> Shouldn't you have been exterminated?
[00:41:40] <+TheStorm> No the pest has not grown silent because your still talking
[00:42:14] < Randomist> Not me; the other one.
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[00:43:23] < Randomist> The one, who according to Zeromus is my psychological brother.
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[00:55:08] <+TheStorm> which pest
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[01:05:01] < Randomist> This text-wrapping things STILL ain't working right.
[01:06:57] <@Grue> FAIL!
[01:08:10] < Randomist> I know!
[01:08:25] < Randomist> I can't figure out what the hell I'm doing wrong.
[01:08:50] < Randomist> I even tried copying each word to a buffer and then checking the lengh before displaying it, and that's not working right.
[01:09:54]  * Randomist tries one more thing.
[01:10:05] < Randomist> I am not giving up on this yet!
[01:10:30] < Dan_E> What language?
[01:10:37] < i_c-Y> z80asm
[01:10:43] < i_c-Y> hes the one who killed wikiti
[01:10:47] < i_c-Y> !!!
[01:11:46] < Dan_E> It's been a long time since I've looked at some z80
[01:11:50] < Dan_E> Sad
[01:12:18] < i_c-Y> you should make it a project for spring break
[01:12:24] < i_c-Y> code something in z80 asm
[01:12:28] < i_c-Y> ( for your students )
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[01:12:45] < i_c-Y> raise an army of pre- BrandonW 's!
[01:13:01]  * Randomist wonders, free ASM classes?
[01:13:26] < Dan_E> I'm not sure if my students would be into it
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[01:14:57] < i_c-Y> Dan_E: they 'll never know if they dont try
[01:15:45] < Randomist> If only someone would make up an ASM guide that will have people rolling on the floor with laughs as they read it to keep people interested.
[01:16:41] < Randomist> I can learn pretty much anything if it's taught in a fun, comical way.
[01:18:00] < Randomist> That's why I got so far though the Ruby lessons I was reading before I stopped.
[01:21:57] < Cricket_B> BrandonW still hasn't shown up...
[01:22:49] < Cricket_B> CAn someone run a !lastspoke on him?
[01:22:57] < i_c-Y> no.
[01:23:01] < i_c-Y> nobody do it.
[01:23:34] < Cricket_B> !lastspoke BrandonW
[01:23:36] < Randomist> BrandonW's hiding from you.
[01:23:57] <+patz2009> !lastspoke BrandonW
[01:23:57] < Cricket_B> He hasn't even spoken for over 1.5 hours
[01:23:59] <@efneTI86> BrandonW last uttered a word on #tcpa 1 day, 24 minutes ago.
[01:24:00] < i_c-Y> and for good reason too - Cricket_B is the most annoying thing since Hunterkll 
[01:24:04] < i_c-Y> damn it patz2009 >:(
[01:24:39] <+patz2009> IMMA DIE NAO
[01:25:09] < Randomist> "I'm going to die now," or "Imma, die now!"
[01:25:21] < Randomist> Or Nao?
[01:26:04] <+patz2009> The former.
[01:26:40] < i_c-Y> arrange for patz2009 's military funeral.
[01:28:13] <+patz2009> x_x
[01:29:06]  * Randomist points Cricket_B to UnitedTI.org, where he'll find better hospitality.
[01:30:48] < Randomist> Or, better yet, #omnimaga
[01:30:59] < i_c-Y> damn it Randomist , dont steal my lines >.>
[01:31:42] <+TheStorm> but that is on a different network
[01:32:18] < Cricket_B> I just read the log...
[01:33:12] < Cricket_B> I know OmniMaga is dead
[01:33:28] <+TheStorm> un not the irc channel just the site
[01:33:34] < Cricket_B> OH...
[01:34:24] < Cricket_B> I'll try not to be a pest. I saw what Randomist said (How can i_c-Y exterminate me?)
[01:35:10] < Cricket_B> It's just that this is the only place I can talk about calculators...
[01:35:35] < Cricket_B> The best place, in fact
[01:37:31] <+TheStorm> that is when people want to
[01:37:32] < Cricket_B> Do you hate how in ASM, you can't divide or multiply without writing a module to do the task?
[01:37:38] < glk> I can discuss the IT-89 calc if needed
[01:37:43] < i_c-Y> glk: please do.
[01:37:47] <+TheStorm> lol
[01:37:49] < Cricket_B> NOOOOOOOOOOO
[01:38:05] < glk> http://grahamkendall.net/ in Main has much 89 data
[01:38:09] <+TheStorm> Cricket_B connect to irc.unitedti.org
[01:38:21] <+TheStorm> and then join channel #0mnimaga
[01:38:24] < i_c-Y> glk: i was actually wonering - do you have any transform code on there?
[01:38:30] < glk> No
[01:38:36] <+TheStorm> someone there might be able to help you
[01:38:37] < i_c-Y> ie Z, invZ, DTFT, invDTFT
[01:38:39] < i_c-Y> :-/
[01:38:41] < glk> What is that
[01:39:08] < i_c-Y> z transform, inverse z transform, discrete time fourier transform, inverse discrete time fourier transfomr
[01:39:19] < glk> EEPRO has these
[01:39:22] < i_c-Y> i know you can calculate them with the builtin cas functions but meh.
[01:39:24] < i_c-Y> ah right
[01:39:33] < glk> I have FFT data
[01:39:37] < Cricket_B> I can't set up the connection w/o ports
[01:39:55] <+TheStorm> huh?
[01:40:05] < glk> EEPRO has a table of Laplace Transforms
[01:40:17] < Cricket_B> What port is for irc.unitedti.org?
[01:40:33] < i_c-Y> what port do you think?
[01:40:44] < Cricket_B> IDK. 80?
[01:40:49] < Cricket_B> (HTTP)
[01:40:49] < i_c-Y> ...
[01:40:52] <+TheStorm> Cricket_B http://www.unitedti.org/index.php?act=irc
[01:40:53] < i_c-Y> you are a moron.
[01:41:01] <+TheStorm> yes he is
[01:41:05] < Cricket_B> Sorry, I'm not experienced with the IRC protocal
[01:41:25] < i_c-Y> hey, Netham45 and Randomist , i think you guys are off the hook for a while.
[01:41:36] <+TheStorm> just go to the damn link I provided
[01:41:46] < Cricket_B> I can still monitor this channel, however
[01:42:19] <+TheStorm> why wouldn't you be able to
[01:42:35] < i_c-Y> not witha +b from here and the logs.
[01:42:51] <+TheStorm> once there join #omnimaga 
[01:43:01] < Cricket_B> I see Randomist!!!
[01:43:23] <+Nikky> Cricket_B: #Omnimaga is the worst channel ever
[01:43:28] <+patz2009> zomgnowai
[01:43:32] < i_c-Y> send DJ_Omnimaga my greetings
[01:43:42] <+Nikky> if this was #omnimaga we'd all be banned for talking about another channel
[01:43:44] <+TheStorm> we at least we are talking about calulators atm
[01:43:44] < Cricket_B> I don't see them
[01:43:46] <+Nikky> that's how crappy it is
[01:43:52] <+Nikky> TheStorm: at least there's all three of you
[01:43:57] < i_c-Y> Nikky: isnt that #tigcc
[01:43:57] < i_c-Y> ?
[01:43:58] <+Nikky> two of which are angry hippos
[01:44:05] <+Nikky> i_c-Y: they're about even
[01:44:11] < i_c-Y> fair enough.
[01:44:28] <+TheStorm> well you never joined #omnimaga your on #unitedti
[01:44:47] <+Nikky> ?
[01:44:58] <+Nikky> Because I was banned, dumbass
[01:45:00] <+Nikky> sheesh
[01:45:04] <+TheStorm> I was talking to cricket_b
[01:45:06] <+Nikky> where do these people come from
[01:45:09] < i_c-Y> you're so inconsiderate, TheStorm >:(
[01:45:19] <+Nikky> I'm going to cry now
[01:45:54] <+TheStorm> I wasn't talking to you 
[01:45:56] < Cricket_B> Peanuts? I grabbed some extra
[01:46:06] <+TheStorm> lol fail
[01:46:25] <+TheStorm> they have toxins in them to harm nikky
[01:46:44] < Cricket_B> HA
[01:46:54] <+TheStorm> but there ok for almost everyone else
[01:47:00] <+Nikky> haha, very funny
[01:47:02] < Cricket_B> !!!
[01:47:06] < i_c-Y> everytime Cricket_B writes something i have an urge to write
[01:47:06] <+TheStorm> I think they may harm i_c-y also
[01:47:07] <+Nikky> too bad Nikky was the only one who told the truth around that place
[01:47:14] < i_c-Y> JUST FUCKIN IPHONE JUST FUCKIN IPHONE JUST FUCKIN IPHONE
[01:47:20] <+Nikky> and told you all that kevin needed to shut omnimaga down
[01:47:22] <+TheStorm> lol nice
[01:47:23] <+Nikky> but I was wrong!
[01:47:31] < i_c-Y> so Hunterkll and omnimaga come and drown out Cricket_B 
[01:47:43] < Cricket_B> I'm still here...
[01:47:49] < Hunterkll> Huh?
[01:48:07] <+TheStorm> were talking about stupidity
[01:48:29] < i_c-Y> Hunterkll: i give you permission to talk about iphones if Cricket_B is typing. but it has to be in sufficient volume to get him out of my buffer
[01:48:38] < i_c-Y> before i see it.
[01:48:48] < Hunterkll> Don't ever give me permission to flood
[01:49:02] < Hunterkll> you'll get a screenfull of mudkipz before you can bling
[01:49:04] < Hunterkll> blink
[01:49:11] <+TheStorm> Why would anyone want to talk about something that fails so much
[01:49:23] < Cricket_B> Omnimaga stinks.
[01:49:31] < Cricket_B> No random conversation
[01:49:49] < i_c-Y> YOU BETTER STOP BADMOUTHING OMNIMAGA, CRICKET_B OR ELSE
[01:49:56] <+TheStorm> so first you want coding and now you don't?
[01:50:10] < Hunterkll> Someone give me a valid reason the iPhone fails 
[01:50:12] < Cricket_B> This place just is more active.
[01:50:19] <+Nikky> YOUD BETTER STOP
[01:50:21] <+Nikky> :)
[01:50:24] < i_c-Y> :)
[01:50:25] < Cricket_B> ?
[01:50:27] < Cricket_B> ?
[01:50:31] < Cricket_B> :(
[01:50:32] < Hunterkll> oh fuck it
[01:50:58] < Cricket_B> Can you give me another chance?
[01:51:05] <+Nikky> I will
[01:51:12] < Cricket_B> THX
[01:51:19] <+TheStorm> um lets see the rotaion sensor fails and it takes mutiple trys to get it to rotate in teh direction you want
[01:51:27] <+Nikky> And icy will too
[01:51:30] < Cricket_B> On what?
[01:51:42] <+TheStorm> iphone
[01:52:14] < Cricket_B> Oh. I don't really like Apple that much. It's too hard to navigate through Macintosh
[01:52:24] <+TheStorm> they they go and give it a touch screen yet you have to press the 1 button on it to exit anything.
[01:52:26] < Cricket_B> My friend has an iPhone, though
[01:52:27] < Hunterkll> TheStorm: Uh, try updating yer shit.
[01:52:34] <+TheStorm> why?
[01:52:49] < Hunterkll> 1.1.4 is a bugfix release 
[01:52:51] <+TheStorm> I was holding one earlier today
[01:53:22] <+Nikky> apple sucks
[01:53:30] < Hunterkll> -shrug- i've never had difficulty with the rotation all the way back to 1.1.1
[01:53:30] < Cricket_B> I have only one script running (DON'T FLAME ME...LET ME EXPLAIN)
[01:53:47] < Cricket_B> BrandonW is frequently inactive, right?
[01:53:52] <+TheStorm> ok but my secound point is still relitive
[01:54:01] < BrandonW> Yes, because I'm at work all day.
[01:54:15] < Hunterkll> TheStorm: Eh, I don't see that as an issue 
[01:54:15] < i_c-Y> hello BrandonW 
[01:54:17] < i_c-Y> how are you today?
[01:54:28] < Cricket_B> Oh. Hi
[01:54:42] < Randomist> BrandonW:  Run while you still have the chance!
[01:54:50] < Cricket_B> I made a script to tell me when you come.
[01:54:51] <+TheStorm> and the fact that unless you have album art for every album the whole gui thing is useless because of how small the text is
[01:55:17] < Cricket_B> I think the speakers on this computer were too loud, though :)
[01:55:21] < Hunterkll> The text isn't small....
[01:55:31]  * Cricket_B is now death
[01:55:32] < Hunterkll> it's larger then on the regular ipod screen ....
[01:55:40] < non-sense> is there a reason why thermal conductivity would be more of a dependent property than melting temperature,  when trying to melt a certain volume
[01:55:49] <+TheStorm> yes but the screen is like five times as large
[01:55:49] < non-sense> like, the obvious answer is no, but is there exceptions?
[01:56:06] <+TheStorm> WTF?
[01:56:09] < Hunterkll> TheStorm: The text is easily readable unless you are blind =]
[01:56:30] < Cricket_B> What if you are blind?
[01:56:33] < BrandonW> Dan_E!
[01:56:37] < BrandonW> You live!
[01:56:37] < Dan_E> Hey
[01:56:39] < Dan_E> Yup
[01:56:41] < BrandonW> And here I thought you'd abandoned us.
[01:56:44] < Hunterkll> then why are you using a touch screen phone?
[01:56:48] < Hunterkll> if you are blind
[01:57:05] < Cricket_B> To talk on, because they're not death
[01:57:13] < Dan_E> Not abandoned.  Just lurking and unable to fix wikiti apparently
[01:57:21] < Hunterkll> then why are you using a *touch screen* phone?
[01:57:28] < Cricket_B> I'm not
[01:57:33] < Hunterkll> why not get an el cheap phone BECAUSE YOU ARE BLIND?
[01:57:36] < BrandonW> I hope your very old backup has all those BCALLs I added.
[01:57:45] < Cricket_B> I'm not blind
[01:57:50] <+TheStorm> the point is that they use this complex gui, that they stole from someone else, and then make it fail
[01:57:52] < Hunterkll> [21:59]  <Hunterkll> TheStorm: The text is easily readable unless you are blind =]
[01:57:52] < Hunterkll> [22:00]  <Cricket_B> What if you are blind?
[01:57:54] < Cricket_B> It was a 'What if"
[01:58:13] < Hunterkll> I WAS ANSWERING A THEROETICAL QUESTION IN A THERORETICAL MANNER GODDAMN
[01:58:22] < BrandonW> I knew I should've made a backup of all the pages.
[01:58:29] < Randomist> Hunterkll + Cricket_B.  This can't be a good combination.
[01:58:30] <+TheStorm> you forgot the "IT"
[01:58:32] -!- Hunterkll was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [caps goddamn]
[01:58:34] <+TheStorm> lol
[01:58:45] < Cricket_B> Backups make the world go round
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[01:58:54] < Hunterkll> lol
[01:58:57] <+TheStorm> I find this quite hilarous
[01:59:01] < Cricket_B> lol
[01:59:06] < Randomist> Add Netham45 to the mix, and you have yourself a concoction too horrible to speak of.
[01:59:10] < Cricket_B> lol
[01:59:13] < Hunterkll> I can has internet throat slitting device?
[01:59:16] < Dan_E> I'm sure there's a way to dump the current pages
[01:59:29] < Dan_E> The damaged tables don't actually hold page data I don't think
[01:59:38] < Dan_E> I don't necessarily know how to do that... but I'm sure it's possible
[01:59:49] < BrandonW> Which are they? Maybe it can be messed with or faked.
[01:59:50] < Cricket_B> Well, it's over my head
[01:59:57] < Cricket_B> (then again, I'm short)
[02:00:31] < Dan_E> objectcache and searchindex
[02:00:48] <+ports-> hey dan
[02:01:03] < Cricket_B> Fake facts aren't real facts.
[02:01:42] < Cricket_B> Neither are messed-up facts
[02:01:50] < Cricket_B> THat's a fact
[02:01:51] < Dan_E> Hi ports
[02:02:04] < Dan_E> Brandon: the "cur" table, I think, holds a copy of all the current pages.  And it's intact
[02:02:05]  * Randomist wonders how old Cricket_B is.
[02:02:11] < Cricket_B> 14
[02:02:13] < Dan_E> So I assume it should be possible to recover something/everything from that
[02:02:55] < BrandonW> I don't know enough about wikis to do anything useful with it.
[02:02:57]  * Cricket_B is no longer death
[02:03:01] < BrandonW> Unless it's just really obvious.
[02:03:09]  * Cricket_B is death again
[02:03:24] < Cricket_B> I think I should turn off these speakers...
[02:03:36]  * Cricket_B 's speakers click off
[02:03:43] <+TheStorm> night all calc nerds
[02:03:58] < Cricket_B> bye!!!
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[02:04:18] < BrandonW> Dan: do you remember ever having issues trying to send USB bulk data two or more times before receiving, like with calc<->calc stuff? It does not want to work with me. I think it might be some sort of controller bug.
[02:04:23] < BrandonW> Either that or the OS code is buggy.
[02:04:27] < BrandonW> Either way I don't know how to fix it.
[02:04:35] < i_c-Y> Dan_E: have you run myisamchk?
[02:04:46] < Cricket_B> The calc to calc things are naturally buggy
[02:05:09] < Dan_E> icy: I don't have shell access
[02:05:17] < i_c-Y> oh.
[02:05:37] < Dan_E> Brandon: I've not done much sending calc<->calc
[02:05:37] < BrandonW> It's peripheral mode I'm having trouble sending twice or more.
[02:05:59] < BrandonW> The OS never tries to send twice before receiving, though it does receive multiple times.
[02:06:03] < i_c-Y> Dan_E: do you have a control panel ? like cpanel or somethign?
[02:06:04] < Dan_E> http://junk.denglend.net/ticur.sql.gz if anyone wants to try to play with it
[02:06:15] < Dan_E> icy: Yeah, I have cpanel and phpmyadmin
[02:06:27] < Dan_E> I've tried repairing the tables to no avail
[02:06:36] < i_c-Y> try digging through cpanel.
[02:06:54] < BrandonW> Is that file right?
[02:06:55] < Dan_E> For what?
[02:07:02] < Dan_E> Is what file right?
[02:07:11] < BrandonW> It's only 1MB.
[02:07:14] < BrandonW> And apparently corrupted.
[02:07:25] < i_c-Y> to repair the tables - it doesnt always work on the first few tries.
[02:07:56] < Cricket_B> BrandonW, I /msg'd you
[02:07:56] < i_c-Y> and i think you get a few more options than in phpmyadmin from there.
[02:08:01] < BrandonW> I see that.
[02:08:40] < Dan_E> icy: I've tried repairing from both cpanel and phpmyadmin.  It doesn't fail to repair, it says they don't need to be repaired
[02:08:50] < Dan_E> but executing a check says they're corrupted and need to be repaired
[02:09:00] < Dan_E> Brandon: Corrupted?  1MB of text is a lot of text...
[02:09:27] < BrandonW> I suppose I'm just using the wrong utility to open it.
[02:09:50] < i_c-Y> Dan_E: you could try CHECK TABLE inserttablenamehere EXTENDED;
[02:10:16] < Dan_E> ok, let me see...
[02:10:22] < i_c-Y> though that will probably take a bit of time
[02:11:01] < Dan_E> Nope, took no time but same response: dengle2_main.tiobjectcache     check     error     Table './dengle2_main/tiobjectcache' is marked as crashed and should be repaired
[02:11:22] < Cricket_B> Time is the 4th dimension, however, most things utilize it to a great extent, while others just let it waste away...
[02:11:36] < BrandonW> Oh, it's just SQL.
[02:11:38] < BrandonW> I'm an idiot, sorry.
[02:11:51] < Cricket_B> L. O. L.
[02:12:56] < i_c-Y> hm
[02:13:18] < Cricket_B> Does anyone like my philosophy?
[02:13:41] < BrandonW> Is it a philosophy or a fact?
[02:13:44]  * Cricket_B is no longer death
[02:13:53] < Cricket_B> It's a philosophy/fact.
[02:14:01] < Cricket_B> Who really knows?
[02:14:12] < Cricket_B> I don't, that's for sure
[02:14:48]  * Cricket_B is stupid
[02:14:54] < Randomist> You're driving me fucking insane -- do everyone a favor and shut up for a while!
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[02:15:16] < Cricket_B> 'up' isn't even open!
[02:15:28] < BrandonW> Don't worry, he'll get kicked when he rejoins.
[02:15:34] < BrandonW> For cursing.
[02:15:39] < i_c-Y> hm
[02:15:40] < Cricket_B> LOL
[02:15:52] < Cricket_B> Should I give him a heads up?
[02:15:58] < i_c-Y> Dan_E: did you try running a repair after running the check table?
[02:16:06] < BrandonW> He knows it's coming.
[02:16:08] < Dan_E> Yes, but I'll do it again just for kicks
[02:16:23] < Cricket_B> I tried a /msg for him
[02:16:38] < Dan_E> dengle2_main.tiobjectcache     repair     status     Table is already up to date
[02:16:40] < BrandonW> I don't think talking to him more is the best thing to do.
[02:16:55] < Cricket_B> Oh.
[02:17:11] < BrandonW> Maybe you should intentionally corrupt the table just a little bit.
[02:17:11] < Cricket_B> I just want to drive him nuts. It's fun.
[02:17:17] < Cricket_B> ???
[02:17:23] < Dan_E> Brandon: I can't edit the table because it's corrupted
[02:17:33] < BrandonW> It's corrupted, yet it's not!
[02:17:49] < Cricket_B> If X is Y, how can X not be Y?
[02:18:03] < Cricket_B> X = 1/2 Y
[02:18:20] < BrandonW> X is not Y there.
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[02:18:28] <@efneTI86> [DSP_Lord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
[02:18:38] < Cricket_B> 1/2 X = 1/2 Y
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[02:18:47] <+patz2009> x=y
[02:18:52] < Cricket_B> Where X = Y and X <> Y
[02:18:56] < BrandonW> X was never not Y there.
[02:19:10] < Cricket_B> Listen:
[02:19:17] < Cricket_B> Full <> Empty
[02:19:18] < i_c-Y> hm
[02:19:22] < i_c-Y> is there a force check option?
[02:19:24] < Cricket_B> 1/2 Full = 1/2 Empty
[02:19:51] < BrandonW> You're comparing quantities with definitions.
[02:20:05] < Cricket_B> X = Str1:Y = Str2
[02:20:09] < BrandonW> An entire glass full is the same amount as an entire glass empty.
[02:20:13] < BrandonW> It's still an entire glass.
[02:20:18] < Cricket_B> LOL
[02:20:29] < BrandonW> Your logic is flawed.
[02:21:51]  * Cricket_B 's logic is now flawed
[02:21:52] < i_c-Y> hm
[02:22:01] < Cricket_B> 1 + 1 = 3
[02:22:15] < i_c-Y> Dan_E: i wonder what happens if you try using a REPAIR TABLE with either EXTENDED or USE_FRM ?
[02:22:34] < Cricket_B> If 1 + 1 = 5, 1 = 2.5
[02:23:08]  * Cricket_B 's logic is unflawed
[02:23:19] < Cricket_B> X
[02:23:26]  * Cricket_B 's logic is antiflawed
[02:23:37] < BrandonW> Are you bored?
[02:23:43] < Cricket_B> Yeah...
[02:24:01] < Cricket_B> But, in 5-10 minutes, I'll be going to McDonalds
[02:24:12] < Cricket_B> I'll have a #1
[02:24:20] < Dan_E> i_c-Y: Then it appears to fix it
[02:24:25] < i_c-Y> or if you run OPTIMIZE TABLE, shouldn't it go through and do stuff?
[02:24:41] < Cricket_B> A Big Mac fixed a flawed SQL table???
[02:24:41] < BrandonW> It works!
[02:24:42] < i_c-Y> Dan_E: but does it actually fix it?
[02:24:50] < Dan_E> Trying to determine that
[02:24:51] < Cricket_B> A Big Mac works???
[02:24:57] < Cricket_B> Good point!
[02:24:59] < BrandonW> No, WikiTI.
[02:25:15]  * Cricket_B cheers
[02:25:16] < i_c-Y> hm. thats i_c-Y - 1, mysql - 0.
[02:25:28] <+patz2009> :)
[02:25:31] < i_c-Y> which one was it, USE_FRM?
[02:25:37] < i_c-Y> thats the more powerful one.
[02:25:42] < Cricket_B> It was a Big Mac
[02:25:42] < Dan_E> Yeah, that's the one that did it.
[02:25:56] < Dan_E> The site in general seems to work, searching does not, though I'm not sure if searching ever worked.
[02:26:01] < Dan_E> In either case, you win at life
[02:26:01] < i_c-Y> mainly because it discards all sorts of stuff that you normally consider important
[02:26:07] < i_c-Y> but hey it works
[02:26:08] < BrandonW> I used searching all the time.
[02:26:15] < Dan_E> Brandon: Well see if it does something for you
[02:26:44] < BrandonW> Works.
[02:26:52] < Cricket_B> Searching worked at one point. I don't know why I know this though. However, nobody may or may not know how to know know.
[02:26:54] < BrandonW> Sort of, anyway.
[02:27:15] < BrandonW> I can type in the address of a page and it'll show it to me.
[02:27:19] < BrandonW> Like 83Plus:BCALLs:50C8
[02:27:23] < BrandonW> But not the name (UngroupVar).
[02:27:25] < Cricket_B> I'm going to McDonalds
[02:27:31] < Dan_E> Well that's something at least
[02:27:35]  * Cricket_B Chirp_Eat
[02:27:41] < Cricket_B> Bye 4 now!
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[02:27:55] < BrandonW> The most important things are there.
[02:27:57] < Chirp_Eat> Bye!
[02:28:03] < BrandonW> i_c-Y, you win at life.
[02:28:04] < Chirp_Eat> C U L8R
[02:28:09] < Chirp_Eat> Ta-Ta!
[02:28:10] < BrandonW> Bye.
[02:28:14] < i_c-Y> :)
[02:28:16] < Chirp_Eat> THX
[02:28:27] < BrandonW> You have saved us all.
[02:28:33] < Chirp_Eat> OK
[02:28:39] < BrandonW> Now I can add to the USB documentation.
[02:28:51] < Dan_E> I've made a database backup
[02:29:08] < Dan_E> And now I'm outta here for another few months :)
[02:29:09] < i_c-Y> maybe you should make a backup of wikiti now, Dan_E , and try rebuilding searchindex 
[02:29:15] < BrandonW> Nooooo...
[02:29:23] < BrandonW> Don't even joke like that.
[02:30:03] < i_c-Y> you said it was corrupt
[02:30:19] < i_c-Y> and set it to index words less than 4 chars in there too. 
[02:30:35] < i_c-Y> cause mediwiki probably defaults ot some MyISAM bullshit
[02:30:58] < i_c-Y> and by rebuilding searchindex i mean REPAIR TABLE searchindex;
[02:31:23] < BrandonW> Watch him already be gone.
[02:31:55] < i_c-Y> it is possible.
[02:33:22] < Dan_E> ok, I've done that
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[02:33:39] < BrandonW> :)
[02:33:54] < BrandonW> Searching hasn't changed.
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[02:34:57] < Randomist> Yay.  Sanity.
[02:35:03] < i_c-Y> is it using the default search ?
[02:35:19] < i_c-Y> if so, someone should probably install a different one - the default is pretty much utterly useless.
[02:35:34] < BrandonW> No matches when clicking Go or Search.
[02:36:04] < BrandonW> You used to be able to type the name of a BCALL in there and get the page through page text matches.
[02:36:31] < BrandonW> But I'm already happy as it is.
[02:36:52] < i_c-Y> im pretty sure theres a rebuild search script with mediawiki that someone should probably run
[02:39:23] < Randomist> Bwahaha... DJ_Omnimaga accidentally set off his spamming script in his own channel.
[02:39:35] < i_c-Y> o.0
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[02:46:12] < i_c-Y> hm. i guess in due time it should rebuild the search index itself.
[02:46:19] < i_c-Y> maybe a few weeks i guess.
[02:46:32] < i_c-Y> or theres something in one of the admin pages
[02:48:54] < i_c-Y> BrandonW: whats the going rate for an 84+?
[02:49:24] < BrandonW> Hard to say.
[02:49:27] < BrandonW> I would guess $60.
[02:49:30] < i_c-Y> hm
[02:49:32] < i_c-Y> k
[02:55:01] < i_c-Y> yep it looks like it has to rebuild its own searchindex at some point - it recogonizes all the linkage. 
[02:59:20] < BrandonW> http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8135/calcsup4.jpg Terrible low quality picture.
[02:59:24] < BrandonW> I'll take a better one in a minute.
[03:02:10] < i_c-Y> hm
[03:02:14] < i_c-Y> you're missing one nspire
[03:02:46] < BrandonW> And a Voyage 200.
[03:02:56] < i_c-Y>  cant tell what the really shinny thing in the bottom left on the case is
[03:03:07] < BrandonW> That's a CBL2.
[03:03:16] < BrandonW> What's in the case is a CBL.
[03:03:19] < Barrett> BrandonW: I'll sell you my V200 for $97
[03:03:27] < BrandonW> Sold.
[03:03:30] < BrandonW> PayPal?
[03:03:41] < Barrett> how much do they cost on ebay?
[03:03:45] < BrandonW> The larger case holds the ViewScreen 81 and projector.
[03:03:48] < BrandonW> More than that.
[03:04:04] < Barrett> eh, I can't go back now
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[03:04:41] < BrandonW> Because then you'd be a filthy rotten liar!
[03:04:46] < BrandonW> So, preferred payment method?
[03:04:52] < Barrett> google checkout
[03:05:11] < BrandonW> I've never used that for person<->person money transfer.
[03:05:15] < Barrett> first let me see if I can find it
[03:05:20] < Barrett> I have
[03:05:29] < BrandonW> I don't mind, I just don't know how.
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[03:05:44] <+chronomex> cash in the mail for the win
[03:05:46] < Barrett> I'll send you an invoice
[03:05:49] <+chronomex> or a check
[03:06:01] < BrandonW> Yes, I would prefer you send me a check. :)
[03:06:08] <+chronomex> no fees that way :)
[03:06:16] < BrandonW> Except I'm paying him for something.
[03:06:20] < Barrett> Ok, it's a voyage 200, has a blue cover, OS 2.07... 
[03:06:23] < Barrett> anything wrong with that?
[03:06:32] < BrandonW> Does it work?
[03:06:35] < Barrett> yes.
[03:06:43] < BrandonW> Horrible screen defects that prevent me from seeing what's going on?
[03:06:44] <+chronomex> all v200s have blue covers, yes?
[03:06:49] < Barrett> it turns on and i can press f1 and get the about screen
[03:06:51] < BrandonW> I have a broken Voyage 200.
[03:06:57] < Barrett> nope... it seems just fine
[03:07:01] < BrandonW> I'll take it.
[03:07:04] < Barrett> I'll warn you though... I have never shipped anything before
[03:07:41] < BrandonW> Wrap it in some paper, put it in a box, and mail it.
[03:07:47] < BrandonW> Or put it in one of those padded envelopes.
[03:07:53] < Barrett> do they have boxes at the UPS store?
[03:08:08] < BrandonW> I have no doubt you can hand UPS what you want to ship and they'll do it for you.
[03:08:13] < BrandonW> And charge an asinine amount, of course.
[03:08:20] < BrandonW> But I don't think you have any problem with that.
[03:08:28] < Netham45> just ship it USPS, it would be like $10 at the max.
[03:08:48] < BrandonW> You deserve it:
[03:08:49] < BrandonW> ...
[03:09:12] < i_c-Y> most of the stuff i buy comes via usps
[03:09:22] < Barrett> BrandonW: how much do you want to spend on shipping?
[03:09:23] < BrandonW> Put it in a $0.47 padded envelope from Wal-Mart or equivalent and hand it to them, it'll be a couple of dollars.
[03:09:33] < BrandonW> Whatever you want.
[03:09:51] < BrandonW> The only way I'd refuse is if it costs $97 to ship it.
[03:10:05] < i_c-Y> but not 96 ;)
[03:10:06] < Barrett> the V200 is $97
[03:10:27] < i_c-Y> buy packing peanuts and put the v200 in there
[03:10:30] < i_c-Y> and in a plastic bag
[03:10:32] < i_c-Y> with lots of tape
[03:10:34] < Barrett> you said deal so quickly, i should at least be able to charge you for shipping ;)
[03:10:53] < BrandonW> If you do this, all I'll need is an Nspire CAS.
[03:11:03] < Netham45> buy one tonight.
[03:11:11] < BrandonW> Checking eBay now.
[03:11:46] < BrandonW> $160.
[03:12:46] < Netham45> hahahaha
[03:13:12] < BrandonW> All the Nspire CAS+'s are gone. :(
[03:14:35] < Barrett> BrandonW did you get my PM?
[03:14:48] < BrandonW> I did now.
[03:15:51] < glk> Is Nspire worth getting, as I have a TI-89t
[03:15:56] < i_c-Y> no
[03:16:22] < BrandonW> $150 for the Nspire CAS at schoolmart.com.
[03:17:02] < BrandonW> That's where I got my Nspire teacher bundle.
[03:17:18] < BrandonW> Who wants to know what the L in L. Barrett Anderson means?
[03:17:30] < i_c-Y> Lance
[03:17:33] < BrandonW> :(
[03:17:38] < i_c-Y> like Lance Bass Anderson
[03:17:40] < i_c-Y> >:3
[03:18:06] < i_c-Y> actually, they put the L in that name so he could be like L. Ron Hubbard
[03:18:14] < i_c-Y> except mormon
[03:18:32]  * Randomist groans.
[03:18:50] < BrandonW> Now I have it all but the Nspire CAS.
[03:18:57] < BrandonW> And if I _really_ wanted to waste the money, I could do it.
[03:19:01] < BrandonW> I think that'll hold me for a while.
[03:19:01] < Barrett> dang straight, mormon
[03:19:24] <+chronomex> "have it all"?
[03:19:35] < BrandonW> All TI graphing calculators.
[03:19:40] < BrandonW> And the CBL and CBL2. But no CBR.
[03:19:40] <+chronomex> oh nice
[03:19:47] <+chronomex> all 4 HW of the 89?
[03:19:59] < BrandonW> No HW2.
[03:20:09] <+chronomex> I have HW2, you can't have it
[03:20:09] <+chronomex> :)
[03:20:42] < BrandonW> I have HW1, savage.
[03:20:44] < BrandonW> I am awesome.
[03:21:07] <+chronomex> okay
[03:21:49] < BrandonW> So now...how many people know my address?
[03:22:10] < BrandonW> I think just about everyone now.
[03:22:12] <+chronomex> _o/
[03:22:18] < BrandonW> And it's in the logs!
[03:22:37] <+chronomex> time to move
[03:22:37] < BrandonW> And you can WHOIS calcporn.com.
[03:22:47]  * Randomist guesses his address:  $BADA
[03:23:04] < BrandonW> $DADA
[03:23:07] < BrandonW> I am your daddy!
[03:23:32] < i_c-Y> heh. 
[03:23:33] < BrandonW> Alright, now I'm a little too excited.
[03:23:38]  * Randomist now has an Aphex Twin song stuck (back) in his head thanks to him.
[03:23:47] < i_c-Y> i would have thought it would have appeared for brandonw.net but you put that to a PO Box.
[03:23:50] < BrandonW> Now just one (worthless) calculator short.
[03:24:03] < BrandonW> I no longer have that box.
[03:24:35] < BrandonW> The only person stupid enough to buy one was Captain_A.
[03:25:00] < i_c-Y> so, BrandonW , is your middle name also lance?
[03:25:23] < BrandonW> No, but my middle initial is L.
[03:25:46] < Randomist> I'll take a vowel.  "E"?
[03:25:53] < BrandonW> No, you don't get to guess.
[03:25:53] <+chronomex> it is?
[03:25:57] < BrandonW> Yes.
[03:26:42] < BrandonW> Why, what suits me better?
[03:28:00] < i_c-Y> hm. Luke?
[03:28:02] <+Nikky> whores
[03:28:12] < BrandonW> Everyone knows but you, i_c-Y.
[03:28:14] < BrandonW> I just told them all.
[03:28:17] < BrandonW> And they'll never tell you.
[03:28:22] < BrandonW> Finally we have something over you.
[03:28:24] < BrandonW> And it will torture you.
[03:28:27] < BrandonW> And you'll go insane.
[03:28:32] <+Nikky> Your middle name is Luke?
[03:28:40] < BrandonW> No, that's horribly wrong.
[03:28:40] < i_c-Y> har har.
[03:28:46] < i_c-Y> Lewis?
[03:28:49] < BrandonW> Wrong.
[03:28:57] < i_c-Y> Latifa?
[03:29:00] < BrandonW> Wrong.
[03:29:32] < i_c-Y> is it a common name?
[03:29:36] < i_c-Y> Lewis?
[03:29:42] < btrettel> Laurence?
[03:29:48] < BrandonW> I think you already guessed Lewis.
[03:29:49] < BrandonW> No.
[03:30:19] < i_c-Y> larry?
[03:30:22] < i_c-Y> landon/ landen?
[03:30:27] < i_c-Y> leonardo?
[03:30:28] < BrandonW> No.
[03:30:30] < BrandonW> Do you want a hint?
[03:30:33] < i_c-Y> sure.
[03:30:36] < BrandonW> Inside my name is the name of a famous actor.
[03:31:08] < btrettel> Is it the full name, first name, last name, or nickname?
[03:31:33] < BrandonW> If you were to read my name, you would've said the name of the actor.
[03:31:56]  * Randomist whistles...
[03:32:03] < BrandonW> You hush, Randomist.
[03:32:08] < BrandonW> Don't ruin this for us.
[03:32:12] < BrandonW> It's #tcpa people concentrating on something.
[03:32:27] < i_c-Y> lukman?
[03:32:31] < BrandonW> No.
[03:34:22] < i_c-Y> Lee
[03:34:32] < BrandonW> You /msg'd Randomist and conned it out of him.
[03:34:34] < BrandonW> Bastard.
[03:34:50]  * Randomist has said nothing.
[03:34:56] < BrandonW> You are a filthy cheater, I know it.
[03:34:59] < btrettel> I was going to guess Leonidas.
[03:35:00] < i_c-Y> no
[03:35:02] < i_c-Y> brandon lee
[03:35:08] < i_c-Y> son of bruce lee
[03:35:18]  * Randomist was too busy reading comments somewhere to know what was going on until you said my name.
[03:35:30] < i_c-Y> besides, id never take charity like that from Randomist 
[03:35:35] < Randomist> (I've gotta stop being such an action whore.)
[03:35:43] < BrandonW> You would if he blurted it out to you without warning.
[03:36:06] < Randomist> I'm getting the feeling that I am not trusted.  :)
[03:36:34] < Randomist> * trustworthy
[03:36:34] <+chronomex> hehe
[03:36:34] < i_c-Y> BrandonW: then id !k him for ruining my fun.
[03:36:44] < i_c-Y> then someone would be like
[03:36:47] < i_c-Y> BLAH BLAH BLAH ABUSE OF POWER
[03:37:14] < BrandonW> ABUSE OF POWER
[03:37:43]  * Randomist goes back to staring at lines of ASM.
[03:38:06] < BrandonW> I would love to go to bed right now if I could just find my remote.
[03:38:20] < i_c-Y> haha.
[03:38:27] < i_c-Y> im going to bed right now. i have exams and stuff tomorrow
[03:38:30] < BrandonW> Found it.
[03:38:33] < btrettel> When my parents bought a new TV, it was designd explicitely to use a remote.
[03:38:36] < Randomist> A bed that has a remote?
[03:38:43] < btrettel> Using the buttons on the TV was impossible.
[03:38:48] < Randomist> I wish my bed had a remote...
[03:38:54] < BrandonW> Mine are heat-sensitive and don't work so well.
[03:38:57] < BrandonW> So remote's the only option.
[03:39:13] < Randomist> Plasma?
[03:39:15] < BrandonW> Universal remotes are my other hobby.
[03:39:16] < BrandonW> LCD.
[03:39:25] < i_c-Y> hm
[03:39:31] < i_c-Y> i want to find a way to convert ntsc to atsc
[03:39:53] < i_c-Y> without having to buy a conversion box.
[03:40:17] < i_c-Y> as in im planning to figure out how to build my own ntsc to atsc box or something at some point >.>
[03:40:51]  * Randomist will be really, really, really, really happy if he manages to get this workin in five minutes.
[03:41:57] < Randomist> And a few more "really"-s becasue it will be the end of the number of days that I've forgotten that I've spent trying to get this really simple thing working.
[03:43:43] < Randomist> If it took me takes me this long to get something as simple as word-wrapping working, then God help me when it comes time to figure out how to get it to read programs.
[03:44:02] < i_c-Y> hasnt someone explicitly documented this process, Randomist ?
[03:44:10] < i_c-Y> its an incredibly common thing to do.
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[03:45:11] < Randomist> Shit.
[03:45:11] < Cricket_B> I'm back
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[03:45:19] <+chronomex> Shit.
[03:45:22] < Cricket_B> I have to read the log...
[03:46:17] < i_c-Y> you know, Cricket_B , randomist should be happy you're here.
[03:46:25] < i_c-Y> cause i'll be nicer to him now.
[03:46:29] <+chronomex> hah
[03:49:22] < i_c-Y> brb sleep
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[03:53:35] <@efneTI86> [DSPLord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
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[03:54:41] < Cricket_B> Wait 4 me
[03:54:50] < Cricket_B> I'll BRB
[03:55:26] < Cricket_B> I'm back
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[04:01:14] < Cricket_B> Hi!!!
[04:01:30]  * Cricket_B waves
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[04:11:03] < Cricket_B> I am running a script.
[04:11:24] < Cricket_B> When BrandonW talks, it does an error beep.
[04:11:39] < BrandonW> Beep.
[04:11:47] < Cricket_B> Conbine that with loud speakers, and I have a BrandonW aleting device.
[04:11:56] < BrandonW> I highlight whenever Dan_E speaks.
[04:11:59] < Cricket_B> LOL, but the speakers are off.
[04:12:05]  * chronomex beeps twice and explodes
[04:12:11] <+Nikky> I hilight for i_c-Y 
[04:12:13] < Cricket_B> Client-side scripts are fun!
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[04:12:51] < BrandonW> As long as we don't see the results of them or you don't ask people to test them in the middle of a conversation.
[04:12:54] < BrandonW> Then it just gets annoying.
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[04:13:45] < Cricket_B> I'll make it so that when Randomist comes, it loads up TiCalc.org
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[04:15:05] < Cricket_B> Why did I get disconnected?
[04:15:07] < BrandonW> What would be the point of that?
[04:15:10] < BrandonW> It said ping timeout.
[04:15:19] < Cricket_B> How long?
[04:15:29] < BrandonW> 0 seconds.
[04:15:30] <+chronomex> 800 seconds
[04:15:32] <+Nikky> 0
[04:15:34] < Cricket_B> WTF!!!
[04:15:45] < BrandonW> Who knows.
[04:15:49] < BrandonW> I'm going to bed now.
[04:15:55] < Cricket_B> Bye!
[04:16:44] <@Andy_J> It said ping timeout but it was also prefaced with Quit: so it's quite clear you did that on purpose.
[04:16:53] < Cricket_B> I know...
[04:17:07] <@Andy_J> So stop acting like you didn't know why you were disconnected.
[04:17:14] < Cricket_B> How can there even be a 0 second ping timeout?
[04:17:21] <@Andy_J> Only Nikky is allowed to troll.
[04:17:30] < Cricket_B> Anyway, it was a joke. APRIL FOOLS!
[04:17:37] <@Andy_J> It is March.
[04:17:44] <+Nikky> 12th
[04:17:56] < Cricket_B> Oh, that would explain why everyone was staring at me in school today...
[04:18:23] < Cricket_B> Well, G-NITE!
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[04:44:41] <+chronomex> will you people please learn that the "submit review" form is not for reporting download cheating?
[04:44:54] < bsparks> hahaha
[04:47:48] < millinao> http://www.mspaintporn.net/
[04:47:49] < millinao> wtf
[04:50:21] < bsparks> millinao...
[04:50:41] < millinao> that's one of the weirdest websites i've ever seen
[04:51:54]  * chronomex cackles
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[04:58:24] < millinao> If you were deserted on an island with a bunch of people and you were the leader and decided to create a government, what type of government would you create?
[04:58:46] <+chronomex> don't ask that ...
[04:58:47] <+Nikky> A true Athenian democracy
[04:58:49] < millinao> a lot of people would create a dictatorship, but that would probably fail
[04:59:04] <+chronomex> I wouldn't do anything, I'm not a ruler
[04:59:16] <+chronomex> I'd leave that to some bastard with delusions of grandeur
[04:59:24] <+Nikky> however, a hamiltonian republic would work too
[04:59:39] < millinao> considering the group of people would be around 50, a direct democracy could work
[05:00:08] < Netham45> would I be elected into leadership, or would I assume it?
[05:00:18] < millinao> elected
[05:00:22] < millinao> it would not be hostile
[05:00:39] < Netham45> if I was elected, I would set up a dictatorship, because they would have elected me for a reason, and if it was assumed, I would be democratic, because they need to have their voice heard.
[05:00:59] < millinao> haha wtf
[05:01:03] < millinao> that's like
[05:01:05] < millinao> reversed
[05:01:19] < Netham45> does it not make sense?
[05:01:27] <+chronomex> nope, not at all
[05:01:30] < Netham45> good.
[05:01:37] < millinao> haha
[05:01:39] <+Nikky> It really depends on what the people want...
[05:01:40] < millinao> no sense whatsoever
[05:01:45] <+Nikky> They make the social contract
[05:01:56] <+Nikky> Hobbes explains this in further detail
[05:02:08] <+chronomex> haha hoboes
[05:02:26] < Netham45> do you mean hobbes, or hobos?
[05:02:35] < Netham45> @ chronomex.
[05:03:09] <+chronomex> hoboes
[05:03:09] < Netham45> assuming Nikky means Hobbes from Calvin and Hobbes.
[05:03:23]  * Netham45 stabs chronomex with a hobo rib.
[05:03:26] <+Nikky> no
[05:03:28] <+Nikky> wrong
[05:03:29] <+chronomex> hoboes!
[05:03:30] < Netham45> :P
[05:03:33] <+Nikky> I hate you
[05:03:36] < Netham45> hehe
[05:03:38] < Netham45> I know
[05:03:40] < Netham45> I love it too.
[05:04:25] < millinao> woah
[05:04:35] < millinao> depth of field on a south park episode :O
[05:05:01] < Netham45> holy shitting dick nipples, batman!
[05:08:23] < Netham45> :(
[05:08:27] < Netham45> it's a meme.
[05:09:04] < millinao> yeah, a few of my friends say it all the time
[05:09:14] < millinao> the best meme is http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Pretty_cool_guy
[05:10:16] < millinao> I still think that's funny
[05:10:18] < Netham45> http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Image:4chan-venn-diagram.png
[05:10:44] < millinao> LOL
[05:10:53] < Netham45> \o/
[05:11:04] < millinao> I like that the internet covers every bubble but girls
[05:11:08] < Netham45> yea
[05:11:14] < Netham45> it's sexist, and truthful!
[05:16:16] < Netham45> just like that comment!
[05:28:07] < millinao> how is that comment sexist?
[05:28:21] < millinao> "My school has no asian people" is not racist
[05:28:38] < millinao> although I guess it's a different thing
[05:28:46] < Netham45> yea
[05:28:47] < millinao> you can choose whether or not to be on the internet
[05:28:54] < Netham45> there are girls on the internet, too.
[05:29:04] < Netham45> tahben is an example.
[05:29:07] < Netham45> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finger_binary
[05:29:11] < Netham45> It is not recommended to indicate the number 4 using this method, as this creates an obscene gesture.
[05:29:15] < Netham45> hehe
[05:29:40] < millinao> lawl
[05:30:26] < millinao> finger binary is probably the most useless thing ever, heh
[05:30:37] < Netham45> me and my friends communicate in it.
[05:30:44] < millinao> hmm?
[05:30:59] < Netham45> one of them has the ascii chart memorized, and can communicate to me in ascii values.
[05:31:07] < Netham45> he's uber-nerd
[05:31:08] < millinao> hahaha
[05:31:17] < millinao> I would never have the ascii chart memorized
[05:31:26] < millinao> hell, I only know pi to the calculator digits
[05:31:34] < Netham45> I used to have like, a,m,s,t,and z memorized.
[05:32:50] < Netham45> a is 46, iirc.
[05:32:57] < Netham45> but I am prolly wrong.
[05:33:18] < millinao> 46 is .
[05:33:21] < Netham45> damn
[05:33:25] < Netham45> it's 41
[05:33:26] < millinao> A is 65
[05:33:27] < Netham45> oh, hex.
[05:33:31] < millinao> a is 97
[05:33:37] < Netham45> HEX!
[05:33:43] < millinao> oh, 46 hex is F
[05:33:46] < Netham45> yea
[05:33:47] < Netham45> I was close
[05:34:04] < millinao> I just use 64+letter
[05:34:15] < millinao> or 96+letter
[05:34:22] < millinao> A=1, B=2, etc
[05:34:36] < Netham45> yea
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[05:34:47] <@efneTI86> [Merthsoft] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
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[05:35:01] < millinao> waffles
[05:35:03] < millinao> mmm
[05:35:07] <+Merthsoft> indeed
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[05:36:08] <@efneTI86> [Tyler2] I speak fluent dialup.
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[05:37:51] < bsparks> even freezer waffles
[05:38:01] < bsparks> rewuire you to put them in a toaster
[05:38:09] < bsparks> *require
[05:40:00] < millinao> freezer waffles are good
[05:40:41] < bsparks> and also require time, pressure, and heat to prepare
[05:41:03] < bsparks> Merthsoft, did you come up with that?
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[05:46:40] < Netham45> sleep
[05:46:43] < Netham45> ZzZzZzZz
[05:46:46] < Netham45> bbl
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[05:48:34] < millinao> I don't expect something big
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[05:51:23] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!!
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[05:52:15] <+Sir_Lewk> *Que maniacal laughter*
[05:52:26] <+Sir_Lewk> I R BEHIND ME ROUTER
[05:53:47] <+Sir_Lewk> I had to go through over 9 thousand ethernet cards until I found two that worked x(
[05:55:10] < millinao> That's a big number
[05:57:25] <@Grue> FAIL!
[05:57:44] < millinao> win
[06:02:37] <+Sir_Lewk> my roommate has 20+ cards laying around
[06:03:05] <+Sir_Lewk> :O
[06:03:16] <+Sir_Lewk> I can no longer blame that Spitzer guy
[06:03:22] <+Sir_Lewk> that hooker is hot as hell
[06:03:57] <+Sir_Lewk> http://www.myspace.com/ninavenetta
[06:04:41] <+Nikky> No, she isn't
[06:05:14] <+Sir_Lewk> bah
[06:05:30] <+Sir_Lewk> maybe not "as hell"
[06:05:47] <+Sir_Lewk> http://www.drudgereport.com/sw.jpg
[06:06:03] <+Sir_Lewk> I have a thing for brunettes though
[06:06:16] <+Nikky> drudgetard
[06:06:26] <+Sir_Lewk> #tcpa-tard
[06:06:35] <+Nikky> drudgetard
[06:06:42] < bsparks> *tard tard
[06:06:46] <+Nikky> The only people who read the drudge report are losers
[06:06:51] <+Nikky> Who believe random crap
[06:06:55] <+Nikky> they're worse than digg users
[06:07:45] <+Sir_Lewk> nonsense
[06:07:57] <+Nikky> Yes
[06:08:04] <+Nikky> Seriously, that's such a bad news source
[06:08:57] <+Sir_Lewk> I don't believe anything I read just because I read it
[06:09:04] < millinao> was the mayor using city money?
[06:09:06] <+Sir_Lewk> I just like it because it has links to stuff fast
[06:09:07] < millinao> or his own
[06:09:16] <+Sir_Lewk> who knows
[06:09:23] <+Sir_Lewk> seeing as he was politician
[06:09:44] <+Sir_Lewk> test
[06:09:59] <+Nikky> links to stuff fast?
[06:10:05] <+Sir_Lewk> as in recent
[06:10:05] <+Nikky> like prince harry was in Iraq?
[06:10:10] <+Nikky> or Hillary's photo smears?
[06:10:16] <+Sir_Lewk> it has a great deal of drivel, granted
[06:10:20] <+Nikky> yeah, like we really need to encourage his shoddy journalism
[06:10:34] <+Sir_Lewk> he hardly does any journalism at all
[06:10:39] <+Sir_Lewk> he links to other people
[06:10:56] <+Nikky> except the breaking stories he does
[06:11:05] <+Sir_Lewk> I wouldn't complement him enough to call him a journalist
[06:11:06] <+Nikky> like the harry and obama pictures I *just* mentioned
[06:11:48] <+Sir_Lewk> he finds unflattering pictures of whoever and writes a paragraph, if you want to call that journalism at all be my guest
[06:12:09] <+Nikky> I don't know what else is?
[06:12:18] <+Nikky> He also broke the Clinton Intern story
[06:12:24] <+Sir_Lewk> yeah
[06:12:28] <+Nikky> but you decided it isn't journalism
[06:12:30] <+Nikky> wait...
[06:12:36] <+Nikky> you're just the kind of dumbass who reads that stupid site
[06:12:41] <+Nikky> why am I arguing
[06:12:56] <+Sir_Lewk> it's clearly news but I wouldn't call him a journalist
[06:13:10] <+Sir_Lewk> and most of it is clearly pointless news
[06:13:20] < millinao> because you are on the internet, Nikky
[06:13:24] <+Nikky> So you read pointless news?
[06:13:26] <+Nikky> Wonderful
[06:13:30] <+Nikky> I hope you're not of voting age
[06:13:40] < millinao> He is
[06:13:43] <+Nikky> Great
[06:13:52] <+Nikky> He probably blindly supports McCain
[06:13:58] < millinao> and he supports everything we hate, which makes it worse
[06:14:02] <+Nikky> because he hates women and black people
[06:14:07] <+Sir_Lewk> I do, truthfully I don't see how most news really applies to anyone, the main stream media is in the business of entertainment
[06:14:35] <+Nikky> Turn your TV to MSNBC sometime
[06:14:46] <+Nikky> Or in your case... Fox News
[06:14:48] <+Nikky> You'd like FN
[06:14:51] <+Sir_Lewk> "<Nikky> He probably blindly supports McCain"  not so, I disagree with a good deal of McCains policies and only reluctantly support him
[06:14:54] <+Nikky> Lots of scantly clad women and blondes
[06:15:14] <+Sir_Lewk> and Fox News sucks more ass anything else
[06:15:22] <+Sir_Lewk> I'll take CNN over that shit
[06:15:23] <+Nikky> Yet you read drudge
[06:15:25] <+Nikky> Amusing
[06:15:42] <+Sir_Lewk> at least drudge somewhat admits a bias
[06:16:06] <+Sir_Lewk> fox news acts like it's impartial, insulting everyones intelligence
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[06:17:02] <+Sir_Lewk> nearly all "news media" is biased, it's human nature and nothing to be ashamed of, the least they could do is admit it
[06:17:40] < millinao> all news places are crap
[06:17:49] <+Sir_Lewk> my thought exactly
[06:18:08] < millinao> I know what's going on from reading reddit, which is also cra
[06:18:14] < millinao> but less crap than others
[06:18:19] <+Nikky> better than digg or drudge
[06:18:26] <+Nikky> which are Sir_Lewk's favorite "news" sources
[06:18:43] <+Sir_Lewk> I have never gone to digg
[06:18:56] < millinao> I go to digg for non-news stuff
[06:18:59] < millinao> like pictures of cats
[06:19:05] <+Sir_Lewk> and I would hardly call drudge my favorite news source, that would be google news
[06:19:53] <+Sir_Lewk> it's short, concise, and convenient.  good for reading when I'm bored in class
[06:21:26] < millinao> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=konX2e5yJE8&feature=related
[06:21:27] < millinao> lol
[06:21:44] <+Nikky> Shouldn't you be paying attention in class?
[06:21:50] < millinao> no
[06:22:03] <+Sir_Lewk> not if it's shit I was doing in 10th grade
[06:22:18] <+Sir_Lewk> I hate spoiled bitches
[06:22:35] < millinao> You had access to google news during class in the 10th grade?
[06:23:01] <+Sir_Lewk> no, the coursework is stuff I was doing in 10th grade, by my self
[06:23:21] <+Nikky> Community College?
[06:23:33] <+Sir_Lewk> no. Private University
[06:23:43] <+Sir_Lewk> freshman CS classes
[06:23:49] <+Nikky> Community College?
[06:23:59] <+Sir_Lewk> I wish
[06:24:08] <+Sir_Lewk> would be easier on the wallet
[06:24:26] <+Nikky> Well, if you were smart enough to get into a real school
[06:24:30] <+Nikky> you wouldn't be reading drudge
[06:25:31] <+Sir_Lewk> you're right Nikky, political alighment and personal opinions absolutely reflect ones level of intelligence and work ethic
[06:26:00] <+Nikky> Pretty much
[06:26:07] <+Sir_Lewk> I was a fool to doubt you
[06:26:40] <+Nikky> I'm not entirely sure what "political alighment" is, however.
[06:27:12] <+Sir_Lewk> *alignment
[06:28:12] < millinao> imo it does
[06:28:28] < millinao> political alignment does not mean pro-war though
[06:28:39] < millinao> plenty of people are conservative and anti-war
[06:28:48] <+Nikky> I'm pro-war.
[06:28:52] < millinao> lol
[06:28:53] <+Nikky> The more war, the better.
[06:30:00] <+Sir_Lewk> while I doubt that you are sincere, I'm interested to hear what sort of rational you can come up with to back that statement up
[06:30:34] < millinao> Nikky can rationalize anything
[06:30:47] <+Nikky> Preventing war just allows fundamentally incompatable sides to built up forces
[06:30:51] < millinao> listening to him for 4 hours, even the holocaust could make sense
[06:30:57] <+Sir_Lewk> lol
[06:31:02] <+Nikky> And just make the war worse once it does break
[06:31:22] <+Nikky> So let them fight it out now, and allow the stronger side to exterminate the other before they both have nuclear arms
[06:31:26] < millinao> So war is inevitable?
[06:31:31] <+Nikky> Sure is
[06:31:34] < millinao> I don't think so
[06:31:42] <+Nikky> That's nice
[06:31:53] <+Nikky> You must be a liberal thinker
[06:32:02] <+Sir_Lewk> or a christian
[06:32:11] < millinao> athiest
[06:32:49] <+Sir_Lewk> why would an atheist be so confident in the fundamental goodness of mankind?
[06:33:05] < millinao> because they are not exclusive
[06:33:06] <+Sir_Lewk> surely history does not stand on his side
[06:33:38] <+Sir_Lewk> I'm not saying that an atheist cannot be optimistic, I'm just asking why he is so/
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[06:34:06] <+Nikky> It doesn't breed religions fundamentalism
[06:34:14] < millinao> Nikky++
[06:34:22] < millinao> if everyone was athiest, there would be less war
[06:34:28] <+Nikky> which has been used to rationalize massive extermination of non-agreeing sects
[06:34:34] < millinao> not trying to convert everyone though
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[06:34:59] < millinao> but Nikky, that misses out on the point of anti-death
[06:35:23] <+Nikky> haha
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[06:40:52] <+Sir_Lewk> <Sir_Lewk> I would not argue that point, but I also don't see how it pertains to the question
[06:41:00] <+Sir_Lewk> unless of course you are saying that the spread of athiesm is what you base your hope in
[06:41:04] <+Sir_Lewk> which I can understand
[06:41:13] <+Sir_Lewk>  I see more wars being started over greed though,  in many cases religion is just the justification given to the people.  The removal of this justification may delay wars but I doubt it will stop them
[06:42:35] <+Sir_Lewk> anyways, do you use Debian Nikky?
[06:43:10] <+Nikky> Gentoo
[06:43:39] <+Sir_Lewk> alright
[06:44:09] <+Nikky> Why?
[06:44:42] <+Sir_Lewk> I'm looking at setting up a router with Debian on it, I'm wondering if I should use dnsmasq or dhcpd as the dhcp server
[06:45:14] <+Sir_Lewk> dhcpd would probably be overkill in this case, not sure though
[06:45:20] <+Nikky> set ips manually
[06:47:18] <+Sir_Lewk> can I make it so the pc's connecting won't need any sort of configuration?  the reason I'm doing it is so I can share my connection with other people when they are in my room
[06:48:36] <+Sir_Lewk> Actually, looks like I can do that easily with dnsmasq
[06:49:24] <+Sir_Lewk> nvm
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[07:51:48] <+Sir_Lewk> http://mathworld.wolfram.com/TuppersSelf-ReferentialFormula.html
[07:52:21] <+Sir_Lewk> that's the most awesome thing I've seen in a long time
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[08:03:59] <@efneTI86> [Leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
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[08:05:19] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!!
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[11:11:19] <@efneTI86> [notLeofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
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[12:12:32] < Randomist> How do I jr somewhere if BC is zero?
[12:22:28] <+Tari> ld a,b \ or c \ jr z,somewhere
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[14:05:36] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!!
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[14:31:00] <@efneTI86> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[16:02:08] <@efneTI86> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[17:25:22] <@efneTI86> [Merthsoft] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
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[17:34:31]  * chronomex waves at #tcpa
[17:35:14]  * patz2009 waves back
[17:35:31] <+chronomex> hi patz2009!
[17:35:43] <+patz2009> Hello, chronomex.
[17:38:05] <+chronomex> what's news?
[17:38:35] <@benryves> Stuff that happens and gets reported. Usually available in newspapers and the like.
[17:38:40] <@benryves> 'lo chronomex, patz2009. :)
[17:38:53] <+chronomex> hi benryves !
[17:39:01] <+chronomex> dork :)
[17:41:00] <@benryves> :(
[17:46:18] <+patz2009> :D
[17:47:49] <+chronomex> supposedly mokomull is coming to visit me
[17:48:05] <+chronomex> I don't quite understand why he's flying out for me, but whatever
[17:48:23] <+patz2009> chronomex: You're very special to him.
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[17:59:00] <@efneTI86> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[17:59:31] <@efneTI86> [DarkAuron] We called it Sin.
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[18:04:18] <@efneTI86> [Tari__] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[18:40:34] <@E-JL> http://englishrussia.com/?p=1782
[18:41:52] <@benryves> 'lo E-JL :) Incidentally, does your DVB hardware come with BDA drivers? If not, it might be worth looking for some, as that seems to be what most software relies on.
[18:48:43] <+Nikky> chronomex: It's raining
[18:48:53] <+Nikky> I blame you.
[18:49:42] < i_c-Y> its always raining in seattle
[18:50:08] < i_c-Y> whenever i fly over it
[18:50:12] < i_c-Y> in flight simulator
[18:50:40] <+Nikky> haha
[18:50:47] <+Nikky> Well, in New York you always have shit blowing up
[18:50:51] <+Nikky> when I fly over it
[18:50:53] <+Nikky> in a flight simulator
[18:51:06] < i_c-Y> and irl on occasion.
[18:51:48] < i_c-Y> terrorists, subways, steam pipes, godzilla, etc.
[18:52:36] <+Nikky> http://www.horsesass.org/?p=4449
[18:55:06] <@E-JL> benryves: i think not, german manufactured card so you know what that means
[18:55:16] <@E-JL> but that card works great on linux
[18:55:54] < i_c-Y> it hates jews?
[18:56:08] < i_c-Y> it displays disgusting porn?
[18:56:17] <+Nikky> rotfl
[18:56:56] <@E-JL> i think jews are nowdays more hated in other countries than germany
[18:57:16] <@E-JL> russia f.ex. is very antisemitist
[18:58:19] <+Nikky> Russia is anti-world
[19:01:11] <+chronomex> Nikky: I noticed
[19:01:26] <+chronomex> I had to wait for my bus in the rain today
[19:01:33] <+chronomex> that means that tomorrow we'll have nice air
[19:01:42] <+Nikky> Very true
[19:01:54] <+Nikky> you're a bus
[19:02:50] <+Nikky> ooo, burn
[19:03:16] < DarkAuron> why does windows keep asking if I'm sure I want to run an exe
[19:03:24] <+Nikky> Because it cares, DarkAuron, it cares
[19:03:27] < DarkAuron> did they release some update for winXP to act like vista?
[19:03:38] <+Nikky> Are you downloading them using IE?
[19:03:43] < DarkAuron> no
[19:03:47] <+Nikky> Well, who knows
[19:03:50] <+Nikky> maybe it just doesn't like you
[19:04:54] < i_c-Y> Nikky: called service pack 1 or 2?
[19:05:20] <@benryves> DarkAuron: Is it the XP SP2 NTFS addition? You can unblock access to the file via its property pages.
[19:05:45] < DarkAuron> addition?
[19:06:05] < DarkAuron> my winXP install includes SP2 and I've had this copy installed for about 1 1/2 years
[19:06:14] < i_c-Y> i believe he wants to disable the verify publisher thing
[19:06:32] <+Nikky> DarkAuron: Install OS X
[19:06:41] <@benryves> DarkAuron: Oh, heh. Fair enough.
[19:06:42] < DarkAuron> no, it literally has a window asking me if I'm sure I want to run the exe, and has a checkbox that I can uncheck
[19:06:50] < DarkAuron> as if I've never tried to open an exe before
[19:07:03] <+Nikky> Have you tried to open a program binary before?
[19:07:04] <@benryves> Are you accessing the .exe over a network share?
[19:07:05] < i_c-Y> u has a virus!
[19:07:07] < DarkAuron> no
[19:07:39] < i_c-Y> does it say
[19:07:44] < i_c-Y> Open file - security warning
[19:07:48] < DarkAuron> it's a darkbasic exe I just made a few minutes ago
[19:07:54] < i_c-Y> the publisher could not be verified. Are you sure you want to run this software?
[19:08:01] < DarkAuron> no i_c-Y
[19:08:05] < DarkAuron> it's not a publisher warning
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[19:10:02] <@benryves> (re the Vista comment; Vista only does this if the application is either explicitly marked as requiring elevation or it detects it requires elevation - eg it can guess that a file called "Install.exe" will require elevation).
[19:10:41] < DarkAuron> hm
[19:10:58] <+Nikky> Is the file called virus.exe?
[19:13:08] < DarkAuron> it's an exe I just compiled, if you had noticed what I said
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[19:13:44] <+Nikky> I didn't notice you mentioned a name?
[19:13:51] <+Nikky> Unless this client is suddenly dropping linesl
[19:14:16] < DarkAuron> [02:11:45pm] <DarkAuron> it's a darkbasic exe I just made a few minutes ago
[19:14:28] <+Nikky> I saw that
[19:14:43] <+Nikky> So what was the file called?
[19:14:48] <+Nikky> Are you incapable of understanding English?
[19:14:56] < DarkAuron> temp.exe
[19:15:10] <+Nikky> Okay, I can see Windows being cranky with that name :)
[19:15:19] < i_c-Y> and if thats not suspicious im not quite sure what is, DarkAuron 
[19:15:46] < DarkAuron> I normally compile that and I've never had a message asking me if I'm sure I want to run it
[19:16:07] < DarkAuron> so it must be from a recent update
[19:18:03] < i_c-Y> thats because hackers have invaded your userspace
[19:18:14] < DarkAuron> right
[19:18:20] <+Nikky> Your computer is now a zombie
[19:18:28] <+Nikky> Reformat your harddrive
[19:18:33]  * DarkAuron 's computer vomits blood on nikky
[19:18:36] <+Nikky> It's your only chance
[19:20:49] <+Merthsoft> DarkAuron: !
[19:22:21] < DarkAuron> merth you're funny
[19:22:37] < DarkAuron> you honestly think I'll have any chance, anytime soon to magically get the power cable 30 miles from here without a car?
[19:22:37] < DarkAuron> funny
[19:22:47] <+Merthsoft> :(:(:(:(:(
[19:23:17] <+Merthsoft> but
[19:23:19] <+Merthsoft> i love you
[19:23:56] <+Nikky> Power cable?
[19:24:12] <+chronomex> Nikky: my father estimates that mokomull's drive will be more like 30-40 minutes
[19:24:28] <+chronomex> so he ought to arrive at 4
[19:24:30] <+Nikky> Just tell me what that means to me
[19:24:31] < DarkAuron> Nikky: for a commodore 64
[19:24:32] <+Nikky> okay
[19:24:49] < DarkAuron> not that it's any of your business of course
[19:24:53] <+chronomex> damnit I'm going to lunch
[19:24:56] <+Nikky> I had lunch
[19:25:00] <+Nikky> it was spiffy
[19:25:00] <+chronomex> where?
[19:25:08] <+Nikky> downstairs :(
[19:25:25] <+chronomex> :\
[19:25:53] <+Nikky> it was just pudding though
[19:25:58] <+chronomex> I ought to have brought my 68k asm book with me today
[19:26:03] <+chronomex> I'll be lonely at lunch
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[19:27:41]  * E-JL I/O
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[19:33:02] <@efneTI86> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing?
[19:33:05] < Randomist> I took a copy of the text routine I got so far with my to school and spent all my time figuring out what it could possibly be screwing up.
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[19:33:53] < Randomist> I played around with it in the IDE.  It's definantly SStringLength's fault -- it's giving me a huge number like 220 for how large the string is.
[19:34:14] < Randomist> But the string that it's [supposed] to be looking at only has three characters in it.
[19:34:33] < Randomist> At least in the start.
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[19:38:31] < i_c-Y> Randomist: id venture you either don't know how to use SStringLength or are using it wrong them.
[19:38:37] < i_c-Y> look at it on WikiTI
[19:40:21] < Randomist> I cannot find it there.
[19:40:28] < i_c-Y> or somewhere
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[19:40:41] < i_c-Y> surely someone documented it
[19:41:07] < Randomist> TI's guide says you put the pointer to the string in HL -- did that -- and the answer will be in the accumator and B.
[19:41:47] <+Nikky> ASM is hard
[19:41:51] <+Nikky> Use BASIC instead
[19:42:08]  * Randomist ignores Nikky's trolling.
[19:42:24] <+Merthsoft> Nikky++
[19:42:50]  * Nikky eats Merthsoft 
[19:42:58] <+Merthsoft> :D
[19:43:07] <+Sir_Lewk> I was saving that for later :(
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[19:44:22] < Randomist> Sir_Lewk:   Who'd want to?
[19:44:39] < i_c-Y> Randomist: now, what does sstringlength return?
[19:45:07] <+Sir_Lewk> well Nikky ate my Merthsoft, just being safe
[19:45:27] < Randomist> B == $DC (220).
[19:46:14] < i_c-Y> no, i was looking for a literal explanation  - namely the width in pixels of the string
[19:46:17] < Randomist> On the next word, it returns $7E, and on the next, $D2.
[19:47:05] < Randomist> Wait... I just thought of something...
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[19:47:17] < i_c-Y> and im not sure if your string is null terminated 
[19:47:20] < i_c-Y> if its required.
[19:47:48] < i_c-Y> anyway bbl
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[20:03:11] <+HQAT> Hmm... is there a bcall to compare 2 floats?
[20:05:26] < Randomist> Damn, damn, damn.
[20:05:54] < i_c-Y> HQAT: like CpOP1OP2 ?
[20:05:58] < Randomist> I need to learn to read between the lines.
[20:06:38] < i_c-Y> hm?
[20:06:41] <+HQAT> i_c-Y: Yes...
[20:06:43] < Randomist> "HL = pointer to the string, with the first byte being the number of characters 
[20:06:43] < Randomist> in the string. The string must reside in RAM."
[20:07:16] <+HQAT> lol randomist :P
[20:07:17] < i_c-Y> !k Randomist bold
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[20:10:56] <+HQAT> i_c-Y: Do you know if CpOP1OP2 will return Z if OP1 is something like "0080000..." and OP2 is "007F0000..."? I guess I'll just try and see what it does...
[20:11:41] <+Nikky> Suck it and see
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[20:53:51] <@efneTI86> [Netham45] wewt
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[21:07:03] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!!
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[21:32:26] < Randomist> [Screaming happily:]  Yeeaaaaaaaaaaah!!
[21:32:42] <+chronomex> mine is hand-sized and comes with a wrist strap
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[21:33:25] < Randomist> [Clapping with each word:]  I got it, I got it, I got it!
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[21:39:52] <+HQAT> Rnadomist... what exactly are you coding again?
[21:39:59] < i_c-Y> a lyrics display
[21:41:30] <+HQAT> Ahh ok..  but how exactly would that work? Does it just display the text or is it syncronized?
[21:41:46] < Randomist> Synchronized.
[21:42:31] <+HQAT> So do you have to start the lyrics at the same time you start the music? Or is the calc playing the music?
[21:42:45] < Randomist> The former.
[21:43:49] <+HQAT> Ok... sounds like fun... will users be able to load their own lyrics somehow?
[21:43:51] <@E-JL> HQAT: when you start to write some nick f.ex. Randomist, all you need to do is write "ra" and then press tab-button
[21:44:18] < i_c-Y> im pretty sure everyone knows about tab completion.
[21:44:18] <+HQAT> hehe thnx E-JL... I don't use mirc that much so I didn't knew...
[21:44:25] < Randomist> HQAT:   Yes.  And MiniLyrics users will be able to convert between formats.
[21:48:06] <+TD-Linux> oh great
[21:48:08] <+TD-Linux> another house blew up
[21:48:18] < Randomist> o.o
[21:48:20] < i_c-Y> o.0
[21:48:23] < i_c-Y> in
[21:48:44] <+TD-Linux> my city
[21:48:54] <+TD-Linux> dufferent ways though
[21:48:55] <+chronomex> where?
[21:49:00] <+TD-Linux> rochester mn
[21:49:02] <+TD-Linux> the first time
[21:49:05] <+TD-Linux> the guy hung himself
[21:49:14] <+TD-Linux> then blew up his house with explosives or something
[21:49:18] <+TD-Linux> the second one was gas leak
[21:49:24] < i_c-Y> obviously the work of a serial killer.
[21:49:25] <+chronomex> nice?
[21:49:41] < i_c-Y> whose been watching a bit too much fight club
[21:49:45] <+chronomex> yessss
[21:49:48] < i_c-Y> classic symptoms.
[21:50:24]  * chronomex nods
[21:52:28] < Randomist> Yay, I just avoided doing something stupid.
[21:53:00] < i_c-Y> :o
[21:53:05] < i_c-Y> really?
[21:53:07] < i_c-Y> do tell.
[21:54:01] <+chronomex> yes, this is news
[21:55:05] < Randomist> Nothing interesting.  I just realized in time that timestamps are numbers, and I could just use, instead of ".db '00:00:00 Line 1' in the lyrics, '.db 0,0,0,"Line 1"'
[21:55:49] < i_c-Y> ...
[21:55:56] <+chronomex> that WOULD be stupid
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[21:56:44] < Randomist> Would be or whould have been?
[21:56:50] < Randomist> * would
[21:58:52] < i_c-Y> hm
[21:59:05] < i_c-Y> i would tell you, but i think im being too helpful lately and we just cant have that
[22:01:25] <+Nikky> rotfl
[22:01:43] <+ports> argh
[22:01:57] <+ports> Nikky, 30% of that torrent done, 2 weeks left.
[22:02:30] <+chronomex> ports: wtf are you torrenting?
[22:02:34] <@Grue> fail!
[22:02:34] <+Nikky> haha, nice
[22:02:40] <@Grue> what's the torrent?
[22:02:41] <+ports> chronomex, 109gb of Cops episodes
[22:02:43] <+chronomex> something that only exists in siberia?
[22:02:45] <+chronomex> oh.
[22:02:48] <@Grue> wow
[22:02:59] <+chronomex> can you mail it to me when you're done?
[22:03:07] <+chronomex> that'd be faster :)
[22:03:23] <+ports> chronomex, um... if you mail me a harddrive, i'll copy it onto it for you, and gimme some cash
[22:03:39] <+chronomex> that's what I meant
[22:03:42] <+chronomex> but I don't really want it
[22:03:49] <+ports> heh
[22:04:05] <+ports> i wouldn't burn 25 dvds though.. thats crazy
[22:04:12] <+chronomex> no that is
[22:04:18] <+chronomex> and I wouldn't read them
[22:04:19] < i_c-Y> what, chronomex , not redneck enough to appreciate a good 109gb Cops marathon?
[22:04:48] <+chronomex> naw, I'm from cali
[22:04:52] < i_c-Y> that was supposed to be at 18:07:29 >.>
[22:04:53] <+chronomex> :P
[22:05:10] <+chronomex> i_c-Y: lag?
[22:05:14] < i_c-Y> yeah.
[22:05:23] <+Nikky> blame kerm
[22:05:27] <+chronomex> okay
[22:05:32] < i_c-Y> blamed.
[22:05:48] <+Nikky> He's probably pulling down hardcore asian stuff
[22:06:16] <+chronomex> lulz
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[22:30:22] <+ports> chronomex, you dont want the Cops torrent right?
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[22:32:10] < solanaceo> hi guys
[22:32:17] < solanaceo> i got some doubts..
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[22:32:46] < solanaceo> what is the max (or recomendend, or standard, whatever) speed of the 89Ti I/O port?
[22:36:05] <@E-JL> well, it can't be faster than serial port
[22:36:50] < solanaceo> yes, but can somebody give me a numerical aproximate value?
[22:40:10] <@E-JL> where do you need it?
[22:41:22] < solanaceo> sorry, but i did't get your question :-P hehehe... i just want to know the max speed (bits per second) the I/O is capable of..
[22:42:12] <+ports> will it help you sleep better at night?
[22:42:30] <+ports> it's slower than twice the speed of dialup.
[22:43:00] < solanaceo> slower than 112 kbps?
[22:43:10] <+ports> yes
[22:43:25] < solanaceo> the problem is that i am trying to make the 89Ti play music with an external dac.
[22:43:35] < solanaceo> so i need info about the i/o port,
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[22:44:16] < solanaceo> i need all posible info about the 89ti i/o port
[22:44:51] <@E-JL> isn't there already software to play music from calc
[22:45:11] < solanaceo> this is the thread.. http://www.unitedti.org/index.php?showtopic=7773
[22:45:13] <@E-JL> at least there were some when i bought my 86 10 years ago
[22:45:38] < solanaceo> not enough quality and/or way to limited
[22:45:51] < solanaceo> to = too
[22:46:16] <@E-JL> well, reason might be the speed of i/o
[22:48:08] < solanaceo> Well,... the main problem is that all those programs use the calc as dac and using pwm. I am just using the calc as a decoder and an external (way better) dac
[22:49:02] < Randomist> How would I make a timer that, say increments some locations in memory, every millisecond, even while the program's doing other things?  Could the calc handle that?
[22:49:43] < Randomist> * 1/100th, not 1/1000th.
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[22:53:43] < aadster> If I was to buy an Nspire
[22:53:47] <+HQAT> No idea... maybe using an interrupt or something? I have no idea if thats possible... otherwise just place some random calls throughout your code that checks how much time has passed...
[22:53:48] < aadster> would it be best to get the CAS model
[22:53:55] < aadster> or the normal model w/ ti 84 keyboard
[22:54:59] <@E-JL> CAS model, but i don't see any reason to buy Nspire
[22:55:41] < aadster> would the 89 Titantium be better?
[22:55:59] < aadster> My teacher has a CAS and the screen is really nice
[22:56:23] <@E-JL> i'm more fan of v200, but it doesn't have usb
[22:59:22] < Randomist> How many bits is the counter on the crystal timer thing?
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[23:00:54] < Cricket_B> Hello.
[23:01:08] <+ports> Randomist, its a 2 bit whore
[23:01:36] <+HQAT> Woot... my CAS can now differentiate almost everything... it can also differentiate another direvative... and it shows all intermediate results :D
[23:02:00] <+HQAT> The only thing I have to add are the log() and ln() functions...
[23:02:23] <+ports> HQAT, why did you make it?
[23:02:26] <+HQAT> And it still doesn't simplify the result... so things get messy 
[23:02:54] <+HQAT> Because the ti83/4 don't have a CAS system...
[23:03:11] < Cricket_B> What does CAS stand for?
[23:03:12] < Randomist> ports:  So if I had that update every 1/100 of a second, it would go up to about 600 seconds?
[23:03:17] < Randomist> * 655
[23:03:20] <+HQAT> Computer Algebra System
[23:03:56] <+ports> Randomist, umm.. i was making a joke
[23:04:10] < Cricket_B> What do you mean the *3/84 doesn't have one? Isn't that an AOS, which is prebuilt into those models?
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[23:04:59] <+HQAT> The ti83/4 cannot do this kind of stuff "a+a" and return "2a" it will just calculate 2 * the numerical value of A and return a number
[23:05:08] < Cricket_B> Oh...
[23:05:22] < Cricket_B> Well, work on it!
[23:06:12] < Cricket_B> Will it be an app or an ASM prog?
[23:06:31] <+HQAT> It will be an app... so it can be integrated in the normal OS using hooks...
[23:06:42] < Cricket_B> With the lowercase letters?
[23:07:27] <+HQAT> Umm what do you mean "with the lowercase letters"?
[23:07:49] <+HQAT> Oh like that... no it will work different...
[23:08:07] <+HQAT> Instead of pressing enter you will press alpha+enter and then it solves it using the CAS
[23:08:28] < Cricket_B> Oh.
[23:08:54] < Cricket_B> VERY good idea
[23:09:26] <+HQAT> It will use lower case letters to specify some built in functions... like d(x,2x) will be the derivative of 2x.. and i(x,x) the integral... and so on.. 
[23:09:56] < Cricket_B> Why not use the already integrated MATH functions in a different format?
[23:10:57] <+HQAT> Umm which integrated math function? They are all used for different stuff... 
[23:11:30] <+HQAT> I could hardly override the cos() function or something?
[23:12:34] < Cricket_B> For example, the program would read the cos:
[23:12:34] < Cricket_B> cos(x)
[23:12:34] < Cricket_B> and then use that token instead of, IDK, 'c'?
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[23:13:57] < Cricket_B> All of the input characters are made up of tokens. All the program must do is to:
[23:13:57] < Cricket_B> 1. Convert the input into a string
[23:13:57] < Cricket_B> 2. Read the tokens
[23:13:57] < Cricket_B> 3. Simplify the result
[23:14:03] <+HQAT> Umm I don't think I understand that correctly... wouldn't that mean that it would be impossible to type in the real cos function...
[23:14:47] < Randomist> How do I make an inturrupt I can use with the timer?
[23:15:18] < Cricket_B> No.
[23:15:19] < Cricket_B> 1. The input gets converted into a string
[23:15:19] < Cricket_B> 2. The tokens are read
[23:15:19] < Cricket_B> 3. The input is simplified
[23:15:38] < Cricket_B> Randomist: IDK
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[23:18:05] <+HQAT> Umm... ok I guess I'm just retarted... but why would you want to convert the input into a string? I just read the input as tokens... anyway I already got it to work using  it like this d(X,2X) and it works fine...
[23:18:06] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!!
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[23:18:50] < Cricket_B> Have it read the functions instead of the characters.
[23:19:50] <+HQAT> It does read the functions... it just reads the cos() token for example... but for custom functions that I had to add like differentiation and integration I use lowercase characters...
[23:20:14] < Cricket_B> Those two functions exist on the calculator.
[23:20:24] < Cricket_B> They're in the MATH menu
[23:20:39] <+HQAT> Umm do you mean the nDeriv() and fnInt() functions?
[23:20:49] < Cricket_B> Yes
[23:21:03] <+Sir_Lewk> I just got my copy of "Jennifer Government" in the mail :)
[23:21:22] <+Sir_Lewk> kind of the small government counterpart to "1984"
[23:22:06] <+HQAT> Lol... ok... well I figured it would be unlogical because nDeriv indicates its a numerical derivative... wich it is not... and besides nDeriv is 6 characters and that messes things up when there is a lot of output...
[23:23:11] < Cricket_B> Wait, why can't you use standard output like:
[23:23:11] < Cricket_B> d
[23:23:11] < Cricket_B> ----
[23:23:11] < Cricket_B> dx
[23:24:30] <+HQAT> Umm ya mean like "d/dX(2X)"? Well I could but its a bit harder to code.. and that wouldn't work for the integration function... so it wouldn't be consistent...
[23:24:52] < Cricket_B> You can reach the intergration sign, can't you?
[23:25:12] <+HQAT> The integration sign is available in the font but there is no token for it...
[23:25:41] <+HQAT> Its only part of some other token... i beleive it was [integration sign]f(x)dx...
[23:26:15] < Cricket_B> Oh, well, you can use the standard way you were goint to use, i guess...
[23:26:47] <+HQAT> I could override some unused token with a font hook tho... but thats a lotta work I'd rather spend on adding algebra functionality :P
[23:27:02] < Cricket_B> Good point.
[23:27:45] < Cricket_B> Oh, can you run a !lastspoke on BrandonW?
[23:27:53] < Cricket_B> I'm waiting for him
[23:30:59] < Randomist> [Spewing nonesense:]  gjlwheowidzcisslwiaogojstalkerjotiuwogjw...
[23:31:14] <+HQAT> Umm can't everyone just use !lastspoke?
[23:32:06] < Cricket_B> !lastspoke BrandonW
[23:32:41] <+HQAT> !lastspoke BrandonW
[23:32:42] <@efneTI86> BrandonW last uttered a word on #tcpa 19 hours, 17 minutes ago.
[23:33:01] <+HQAT> Hmm weird... is it like a voice only thing? Didn't knew that...
[23:35:22] < Cricket_B> BRB
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[23:42:48] <+HQAT> I made some screenies from my progress so far... This one shows all the steps in deriving 2X... I know it can be solved a lot faster but its still work in progress :P http://www.tha-almighty.com/TACAS_1.gif
[23:43:36] <+HQAT> This one shows a more complicated example.. because it doesn't simplify the result the output is pretty messy... but again its work in progress :P http://www.tha-almighty.com/TACAS_2.gif
[23:44:28] < millinao> HQAT, what is that?
[23:44:44] <+HQAT> Its the program I'm working on... a CAS for the ti84/83
[23:44:50] < millinao> oh, sweet
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[23:45:00] <@efneTI86> [Tari__] Remember, remember the 5th of November
[23:45:09] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Tari__] by efneTI83
[23:45:38] < millinao> does d stand for derive?
[23:45:44] < Cricket_B> PM me if you use PIRCH
[23:45:58] <+HQAT> Yes... d(x,2x) means the direvative of 2x with respect to x
[23:46:10] < millinao> oh, that's awesome
[23:46:30] < millinao> too bad I don't know any derivation, I need to\
[23:46:52] < millinao> are there any online tutorial things for such math topics?
[23:46:53] < Cricket_B> Am I the only one here who uses PIRCH?
[23:47:04] < millinao> yes
[23:47:09] < Randomist> Ditto
[23:47:23] < millinao> xchat is the win
[23:48:04] <+HQAT> millinao: ya coudl check wikipedia but it isn't to helpfull... 
[23:48:54] < millinao> reading the wikipedia articles on higher maths is like reading a book in german
[23:49:03] < millinao> I know the words, but they don't make sense
[23:49:23] < millinao> err, s/german/spanish
[23:49:36] < millinao> or any romanic language
[23:49:54] <+HQAT> I lived for 4 years in germany so my german is quite good :P How old are you anyways? If ya go to college you'll have a mathematics teacher that will explain them :P
[23:50:10] < millinao> 14, heh
[23:50:36] < Cricket_B> A deriative is the slope of a tangent line of a curve at a given point
[23:50:52] < millinao> oh, that makes more sense
[23:51:01] < Cricket_B> I know calculus.
[23:51:06] < Cricket_B> And I'm 14
[23:51:21]  * Randomist is 18 and never took the course.
[23:51:23] < millinao> How, may I ask?
[23:51:24] < millinao> internet?
[23:51:28] < Cricket_B> Book
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[23:51:38] < millinao> hmm, I should see that
[23:51:53] < millinao> in our math class we are learning about the volume of spheres :(
[23:51:59] < Cricket_B> The title is Calculus: The Easy Way
[23:53:54] <+HQAT> Hmm do you think users would find it very annoying if I would override the alpha+down and alpha+right key combinations in the homescreen?
[23:53:56] <@E-JL> more colours and i will kick
[23:54:12] <+ports> millinao, lol easy
[23:54:26] <+ports> millinao, 4/3 * pi * r ** 3
[23:54:31] < millinao> yeah, I know
[23:54:41] < millinao> the :( was for how easy it was
[23:54:46] <+ports> i just saved you a week.
[23:54:53] <+ports> now you can call in sick
[23:55:15] < millinao> they use this bullshit way of teaching it too
[23:55:39] < millinao> instead of just telling us the formula, we take 2 classes to "investigate" it and find it ourselves
[23:55:41] <+ports> i dont remember how we learned it.
[23:55:52] <+ports> i think there was some proof involved
[23:57:50] < Cricket_B> \display \10
[23:58:07] < millinao> HQAT, I don't think so
[23:58:27] < millinao> they aren't used for anything important anyway
[23:58:38] <+Tari__> sweet
[23:58:45] <+Tari__> sparkfun now stocks RFID readers
[23:58:59]  * Tari__ designs a lock
[23:59:02] <+HQAT> Well they are used to scroll all the way down if you have really long expressions...
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[23:59:17] < millinao> oh, I didn't know that
[23:59:25] <+HQAT> I might use shift + right instead...
[23:59:45] < millinao> use alpha+F1-5
[23:59:52] < millinao> they aren't used for anything on the homescreen
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