--- Log opened Mon Mar 03 00:00:17 2008
--- Day changed Mon Mar 03 2008
[00:00:17] <+BrandonW> Okay...my laptop no longer boots...
[00:00:26] < aadster> Sorry had to eat
[00:00:26] < aadster> http://pastebin.ca/925385
[00:00:42] < aadster> aadster	but now I need to get a ball moving around the screen.
[00:00:43] < aadster> 	aadster	Dark said to use xmove and ymove and four variables, etc
[00:00:46] <+BrandonW> It gave an error about the System Logon Process.
[00:00:53] <+BrandonW> And error 0x00(bunch of zeroes)204.
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[00:01:42] < aadster> Start Windows Installer
[00:01:43] <@efneTI86> [Leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
[00:01:45] < aadster> Use Repair option
[00:01:53] < aadster> that's your best bet
[00:01:57] < aadster> use your CD
[00:02:09] <+BrandonW> I'm not going to do a repair installation until I know what the problem is.
[00:02:09] <@benryves> Could always try a system restore?
[00:02:14] < Leofox> i'm making my own chat with java
[00:02:20] <+BrandonW> Yeah, that would be great if I could actually boot.
[00:02:30] <@benryves> BrandonW: You don't need to boot to do system restore?
[00:02:33] < Leofox> what's the problem brandonW?
[00:02:44] < aadster> can you use Safe Mode
[00:02:54] < Leofox> i've messed up my Windows a billion times
[00:02:57] < Leofox> maybe i can help
[00:02:59] <@benryves> Hm, actually, maybe with you do with XP, it's been a while :\ System restore can be run off the Vista install CD, at any rate.
[00:03:04] < aadster> http://www.techsupportforum.com/microsoft-support/windows-xp-support/202449-windows-logon-process-system-error-help.html
[00:03:32] < Leofox> normally you google for the problem, boot Windows from CD and do what the site says
[00:03:42] <+BrandonW> http://www.jcxp.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=13681&hl= This except the error code ends in 204.
[00:03:43] < Leofox> I did that when hy HDD failed
[00:05:33] <+BrandonW> Of course, this just had to happen NOW...
[00:05:50] < aadster> Oh, Windows errors are always there for you!
[00:07:49] <+BrandonW> And now it boots fine.
[00:08:33] <@benryves> Did you do anything to it, BrandonW? :\
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[00:09:05] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!!
[00:09:12] <+BrandonW> I did absolutely nothing. I never even touch it except to remote into work.
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[00:09:18] <+BrandonW> No installs, no NOTHING.
[00:09:24] <+BrandonW> This time I can safely say I have done NOTHING to it.
[00:10:40] <@benryves> Only time I've seen that happen is when the system hard disk drive is on the way out :\
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[00:11:11] <+BrandonW> Last one died a while back, and I replaced it.
[00:11:16] <+BrandonW> AND SHUTS OFF AGAIN.
[00:11:16] < aadster> The American Way: If it doesn't work, beat it.
[00:11:24] <+BrandonW> @#$%@#$*
[00:12:00] <+BrandonW> Right now, I'm going to blame it on being hot.
[00:12:11] <+BrandonW> I am walking away from it.
[00:12:37]  * aadster is listening to Korn - Twisted Transistor (1:09/4:12)
[00:12:55] < aadster> oops
[00:12:56] < aadster> wrong channel
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[00:14:08] <+BrandonW> tifreak48!
[00:14:32] < tifreak48> hi :D
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[00:14:41] < Netham45> http://cgi.ebay.com/Open-Office-Word-Excel-XP-Compatible-Download-Now_W0QQitemZ370027711670QQihZ024QQcategoryZ68258QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[00:14:45] < Netham45> people have no shame
[00:14:47] <+BrandonW> I've written the ROM dumper thingy for your 73.
[00:14:54] < tifreak> o.O
[00:14:58] <+BrandonW> My other two new 73s also arrived.
[00:15:03] <+BrandonW> How would you like to trade instead?
[00:15:08] < tifreak> ok
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[00:15:21] <+tifreak> hope my parts get here that fast.. o.O
[00:15:36] <+tifreak> got two laptops that need parts... won them on Saturday..
[00:16:12] <+tifreak> jeez.. this movie is taking a while to download to my phone.. :/
[00:18:24] <+tifreak> i would have figured a usb connection to the phone would be faster...
[00:18:39] < aadster> are you using bluetooth
[00:18:57] <+tifreak> no
[00:19:04] <@benryves> You're probably being limited by the speed of the phone itself.
[00:19:09] <+tifreak> not sure how to set this up...
[00:19:13] <+tifreak> probably
[00:19:21] <+tifreak> 7 minutes remain
[00:19:22] <@benryves> If it has removable storage, take that out and directly correctly the files?
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[00:19:27] <@efneTI86> [Captain_A] Censored
[00:19:34] <@benryves> *directly copy the files >_>
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[00:19:37] <+tifreak> lol
[00:19:39] <+tifreak> rofl
[00:19:41] <+tifreak> XD
[00:19:53] < Barrett> has anyone played this game? http://calcg.org/cgi-bin/files.cgi?id=1540
[00:19:56] <+tifreak> that probably would have been the wisest choice... just forgot I could do that >.<
[00:19:57]  * aadster pokes ben
[00:20:02] <@benryves> aadster: ?
[00:20:20] < aadster> did you get a chance to look @ my code
[00:20:26] <+tifreak> barrett: heck yes
[00:20:29] <+tifreak> its a fun game
[00:20:32] < Netham45> yea
[00:20:36] < Barrett> it's flash, right?
[00:20:37] < Netham45> nitacku wrote it
[00:20:39] <@benryves> aadster: Oh, hm, yes, but I don't do anything with TI-BASIC :\
[00:20:40] < Barrett> doesn't require a shell
[00:20:42] <+tifreak> no
[00:20:43] < Netham45> Barrett, basicbuilder, iirc.
[00:20:52]  * tifreak points at nethams post
[00:20:54] < Netham45> requires xlib
[00:20:54] < aadster> ok
[00:21:06] < Netham45> hahaghaha
[00:21:07] < Netham45> whoops
[00:21:11] < Barrett> hmmmm... I wonder why it's in the flash section of calcg.org
[00:21:18] < Netham45> I managed to crash my moms router by torrenting...
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[00:21:30] < Netham45> I was downloading 21 Mb/s through wireless....
[00:21:32] < Netham45> it died.
[00:21:34] < aadster> haha
[00:21:48] < Netham45> <3 unreasonabally fast internet
[00:21:50] <+tifreak> barrett.. not sure, maybe because it is loaded from the App menu?
[00:22:05] <@benryves> 21 Mb/s is unreasonably fast, now? :P
[00:22:10] < Netham45> basic builder programs are stored in flash.
[00:22:13] < Netham45> benryves, for internet, yes.
[00:22:35] < aadster> crap I get 300kbs if im lucky
[00:22:37] <@benryves> Netham45: Hehe, only thing I miss about university was an internet connection that was limited by the speed of ethernet :)
[00:22:50] < Netham45> netham45.org/speedtest2.jpg
[00:22:55] < Netham45> that's the highest I've seen.
[00:23:32] < Netham45> when internet is limited by my ethernet size, I am going to go outside and scream, "FUCK YEA, GIGABIT INTERNET!"
[00:23:35] <+Nikky> er, you *do* realize that clients won't pick that up as a URL unless you have www. or http:// in front, right?
[00:24:05] < Netham45> http://netham45.org/speedtest2.jpg
[00:24:08] < Netham45> happy, now?
[00:24:17] <+Nikky> No, I'm still not interested. :)
[00:25:11] < Netham45> I just saw the best popup ad...
[00:25:32] <@benryves> Do you enjoy being stuck in 1996, Netham45? :)
[00:25:40] < Netham45> "Who do you think will win the election? Click here to vote for George Bush.......... Click here to vote for Hillary Clinton"
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[00:26:01] < Netham45> banner ad*
[00:26:08] <+BrandonW> He enjoys being a filthy Democrat.
[00:26:29] < Netham45> I do.
[00:26:36] < Netham45> socialism ftw
[00:26:37] <+Nikky> tax and spend liberal
[00:26:50] <+tifreak> 30 seconds to finish uploading star wreck to me phone..
[00:27:12] < Netham45> tifreak, you deal with car crashes too much. "star wreck"
[00:27:22] <+tifreak> umm... that is an actual movie..
[00:27:26] < Netham45> oo
[00:27:29] <+tifreak> based off of star trek and babylon
[00:27:30] < Netham45> now I feel like an idiot
[00:27:34] < Netham45> \o/
[00:27:40] <+BrandonW> Only just now?
[00:27:51] <+tifreak> i was waiting for someone to say that.. XD
[00:27:52] <+Nikky> we know you were an idiot a long time ago
[00:29:25] <+tifreak> oh nice
[00:29:34] <+tifreak> now I can watch this movie anywhere ^______
[00:29:58] <@benryves> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKiIroiCvZ0 <3
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[00:30:23] <+BrandonW> tifreak, do you want to try this dump right now?
[00:30:32] <+tifreak> I suppose I can
[00:30:45] <+BrandonW> You just need to be able to link an 83+ series calculator to that 73, and be able to send/receive files to/from that 83+ series calculator.
[00:31:05] <+BrandonW> Can you do that?
[00:31:32] <+tifreak> i need an 83+ that has a working linkport and a calc to calc cable?
[00:31:39] <+BrandonW> Yes.
[00:31:43] <+tifreak> ok
[00:31:46] <+tifreak> yes, i have one
[00:32:19] <+BrandonW> Okay, you have to send two files, a program and an appvar, to the 83+.
[00:32:30] <+BrandonW> Then you put the 73 in receive mode and run the program on the 83+.
[00:32:41] <+BrandonW> The 73 will receive a backup, and it'll say "MEMORY BACKUP" and "Done."
[00:32:58] <+BrandonW> From that point, you store the page you want to dump to REAL variable A, like 0.
[00:33:00] <+BrandonW> So 0->A.
[00:33:14] <+BrandonW> Ah, fudge...
[00:33:21] <+BrandonW> There's a 73 program you have to send to it.
[00:33:31] <+BrandonW> I could have the 83+ send that, too.
[00:33:34] <+BrandonW> But I haven't written that yet.
[00:33:37] <+tifreak> ok
[00:34:07] <+BrandonW> The goal is to send a modified backup to the 73, send the dumper to the 73, put the page you want to dump in A, and then do "X->Y" and press enter twice.
[00:34:12] <+BrandonW> While the 83+ is in receive mode.
[00:34:23] <+BrandonW> And the 73 will then send a 16KB dump in an appvar of that page to the 83+.
[00:34:26] <+BrandonW> And then you can send me that appvar.
[00:34:32] <+tifreak> ok
[00:35:00] <+BrandonW> Kind of involved, I know.
[00:35:16] <+BrandonW> That backup thing took forever.
[00:35:26] <+tifreak> lol
[00:35:27] <+BrandonW> And the dumper took longer than it should have, because the 73 has no send/receive routines.
[00:35:43] <+BrandonW> None we can get to easily.
[00:35:56] <+tifreak> fun fun
[00:36:09] <+BrandonW> And...it'll crash after every page dump.
[00:36:13] <+BrandonW> So you have to repeat the whole process 18 times.
[00:36:30] <+BrandonW> What ROM version was it, again?
[00:36:48] <+tifreak> o,o
[00:36:50] <+tifreak> umm
[00:37:05] <+tifreak> 1.3004
[00:37:18] <+BrandonW> That is so odd.
[00:37:28] <+BrandonW> Once the OS is dumped, we need to find out what boot code version that is.
[00:37:41] <+tifreak> are you sure you don't just want to wait to get this thing? XD
[00:38:17] <+BrandonW> I guess. :(
[00:38:22] <+BrandonW> These 73s are both Explorers.
[00:38:32] <+tifreak> cause, honestly, if something doesn't go right...
[00:38:37] <+tifreak> you are going to need to see the results
[00:38:43] <+tifreak> what os versions do they have?
[00:38:52] <+BrandonW> Case on one looks perfect, and slidecase on the other looks perfect, so I can send you the good pieces.
[00:39:00] <+tifreak> ^^
[00:39:02] <+BrandonW> They both came with 1.60, I put one on 1.90.
[00:39:21] <+tifreak> nice
[00:39:32] <+BrandonW> I need to see what boot code versions they have first.
[00:39:48] <+tifreak> well.. this 73 is not going anywhere
[00:40:04] <+BrandonW> I'm going to do it right now.
[00:40:16] <+BrandonW> I feel pretty sick, so I probably won't mail it tomorrow.
[00:40:19] <+BrandonW> But maybe Tuesday.
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[00:40:37] <+tifreak> ok
[00:40:47] <+tifreak> if you are sick, why aren't you in bed? XD
[00:41:13] <+BrandonW> Because there's 73 work to be done, of course!
[00:41:29] <+tifreak> lol
[00:42:14] <+BrandonW> One of us needs to try asking TI for versions 1.40 and 1.50.
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[00:43:32] <+tifreak> hmm
[00:44:00] <+BrandonW> Oookay...
[00:44:06] <+BrandonW> This 73 isn't displaying the boot code version.
[00:44:12] <+tifreak> o.O
[00:46:33] < Netham45> ...
[00:46:37] < Netham45> weird
[00:46:47] <+BrandonW> I manually read it and got 1.3005, though.
[00:46:57] <+BrandonW> Which is the only one we know of.
[00:47:01] <+BrandonW> It's probably worth dumping anyway.
[00:47:11] <+BrandonW> I've seen them change the boot code and not change the version number before.
[00:47:35] < Netham45> then get a dump you shall do.
[00:48:14] <+BrandonW> Other one also 1.3005.
[00:50:11] < Netham45> <3 Pandora
[00:50:23]  * tifreak opens Pandora's box
[00:50:34] < Netham45> <3 Pandora Battery
[00:53:28] <+BrandonW> I'm not sure why it didn't display properly a minute ago, but oh well.
[00:53:30] <+BrandonW> They look the same.
[00:55:22] < Netham45> I know why.
[00:55:25] < Netham45> TI wrote the code.
[00:55:47] <+tifreak> lulz
[00:56:35] <+tifreak> happen to know of any cool things one can do with a Samsung blackjack?
[00:57:02] < Netham45> you can play hacki-sack with it.
[00:57:10] <+tifreak> <.<
[00:57:19] < Netham45> oh, did you want a real answer?
[00:57:20] < Netham45> no.
[00:57:33] <+BrandonW> No one ever expects real answers from you.
[00:57:37] <+Nikky> Shut up Netham45 
[00:57:59] < Netham45> Nikky, I would, but I'd explode.
[00:58:03] <@benryves> tifreak: From what I can tell, it is Windows based, so probably has the .NET CF?
[00:58:06] < Netham45> it's a curse, really.
[00:58:14] <+Nikky> I'm about to punch you in the face.
[00:58:18] <+tifreak> not sure ben, just got it a few hours ago XD
[00:58:25] <+tifreak> but it is Win based
[00:58:42] < Netham45> Nikky, I doubt that would help my curse.
[00:59:08] <@benryves> tifreak: Ah, OK. :) Could be worth looking for free .NET CF apps (or developing your own).
[00:59:23] <+tifreak> yeah
[00:59:28]  * benryves just has a cheap low-end phone with J2ME support :\
[00:59:57] < Netham45> I have a Sony Ericsson W810i
[01:00:04] < Netham45> J2ME ftl.
[01:00:04] <+BrandonW> I have a Verizon XV6800.
[01:00:06] <@benryves> Poor Netham45.
[01:00:16] < Netham45> BrandonW, do you code for it?
[01:00:20] <+Nikky> I don't have a phone
[01:00:24] <+BrandonW> I've had it for all of 3 days, so no.
[01:00:31] <+tifreak> lol
[01:00:34]  * benryves was also "upgraded" from Nokia to Sony Ericsson :(
[01:00:54] <+tifreak> well, I put the star wreck movie on mine... but, the video "stutters" :/
[01:01:03] < Netham45> benryves, yea. :(
[01:01:07] < Netham45> it sucks.
[01:01:07] <+tifreak> it jumps and such
[01:01:14] < Barrett> wow.  I just couldn't find any spoons in the kitchen, so I went into my apartment mate's room to find one, and there are literally at least 50 items of silverware and dishes stacked up on and around his desk
[01:01:15] < Netham45> I can, though, put a full movie on it.
[01:01:30] < Netham45> Barrett, melt them down and sell them for scrap money.
[01:01:35] < Barrett> they're mine
[01:01:37] <@benryves> Netham45: Oh, fair enough. Mine is limited to a few meg of internal memory.
[01:01:46] < Netham45> benryves, mine has Memory stick Pro duo expansion
[01:01:53] < Netham45> I had a 1GB in it, until I got my PSP.
[01:02:11] < Netham45> speaking of PSP, time machine is freaking awesome
[01:02:44] <+tifreak> PSP.. ubtold legends: the warriors code is a great game for it
[01:02:48] <+tifreak> untold*
[01:03:04] < Netham45> I don't do games.
[01:03:12] < Netham45> I got it to stream videos wirelessly on.
[01:03:15] <@benryves> I know currently someone working on a CLR implementation for the PSP. :)
[01:03:37] < Netham45> if I can manage to get 1.00 on it, I can emulate an X86 processor, and get windows on it.
[01:04:11] <+BrandonW> Except that's completely useless.
[01:04:14] <+BrandonW> Windows 95 barely runs.
[01:04:21] < Netham45> um
[01:04:23] <+BrandonW> And you're trying to put XP on it.
[01:04:25] <+BrandonW> um
[01:04:26] < Netham45> I'm actually going to get DOS on it
[01:04:26] <+BrandonW> Yes.
[01:04:32] <+BrandonW> And that is useless.
[01:04:34] < Netham45> so I can play some old DOS games.
[01:04:40] <+BrandonW> Hardly.
[01:04:41] < Netham45> like Wolfenstein
[01:04:51] <+BrandonW> We'll see.
[01:05:00] < Barrett> I really sincerely hope that I was not like this kid when I was 18
[01:05:10] <+Nikky> You weren't.
[01:05:20] < Barrett> he has never done anything to help around the apartment (never done dishes, never taken out the trash, never even cleaned up after HIMSELF)
[01:05:33] <+Nikky> Oh, that does sound like you actually
[01:05:36] <@benryves> Isn't there a PSP port of DOSBox?
[01:05:42] < Netham45> is there?
[01:05:49] < Barrett> he sleeps on the COUCH
[01:06:01] < Barrett> he has his own bed in his room, but he sleeps on the couch
[01:06:06] <@benryves> Netham45: A few seconds of web searching will give you some clues. :)
[01:06:09] < Barrett> and his clothes are all around the TV room
[01:06:22] < Barrett> shoes, slippers, more dishes and silverware, blanket, pillow
[01:06:24] <+tifreak> since this is windows based.. I wonder if there is an LCARS skin for it... XD
[01:06:27] <+BrandonW> benryves, you're expecting too much of him.
[01:06:37] <+Nikky> netham doesn't know how to use the internet
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[01:07:28] < Barrett> he has one class this semester which takes place 1 day a week, and he doesn't go to it.
[01:07:42] <+tifreak> kick him out?
[01:07:43] < Barrett> he "has a job," but he always sleeps in
[01:08:13] < Barrett> he's always stealing my food and my milk and water
[01:08:49] < Barrett> can anyone here top that?
[01:08:58] < Barrett> worse roommates? or are any of you worse than that yourselves?
[01:09:08] <+Nikky> my roommate keeps corpses in the closet
[01:09:46] <+tifreak> no nikky, that is you
[01:09:47] <@benryves> I haven't had a roommate since I was 16. :\
[01:09:53] < Barrett> and to top it off, he steals my internet
[01:10:22] <@benryves> How can one "steal" internet?
[01:10:32] <+Nikky> he uyses Barrett's connection
[01:10:34] <+Nikky> and doesn't pay
[01:10:35] <+tifreak> cause barrett pays for it, and he is not? :P
[01:10:35] <+Nikky> :)
[01:10:39] < Barrett> correct.
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[01:10:52] < Netham45> ban him
[01:10:54] <@benryves> Surely it's easy enough to stop him using your connection?
[01:10:55] < Barrett> he doesn't have wireless so he uses my 50' ethernet cord
[01:11:10] < Barrett> which I have taken back several times, and he just takes it out again
[01:11:10] < Netham45> enable mac address filtering
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[01:11:22] < Netham45> lock it up
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[01:11:32] < Netham45> shoot him in the foot, and say, "STOP TAKING MY DAMN INTERNETS!"
[01:11:47] <+Nikky> shut up Netham45 
[01:11:54] <+tifreak> gah.. this page is taking FOREVER to load... :(
[01:11:55] <@benryves> Well, wireless would at least easier to protect than wired, I guess.
[01:11:58] < Netham45> I CAN;T!
[01:12:07] < Netham45> benryves, mac address filtering is golden
[01:12:07] < tifreak54> It doesn't take that long for me...
[01:12:11] < Barrett> well right now he is disabled (he had surgury on his knee, so he's even more useless now)... so i would feel kind of bad
[01:12:12] < Netham45> not fool proof
[01:12:23] <+BrandonW> Doesn't matter, kill him.
[01:12:27] <+BrandonW> Or at least cut the cord.
[01:12:30] < Netham45> Barrett, that's like letting glk spam, because he is old.
[01:12:38] < Barrett> which we do
[01:12:43] <+tifreak> http://www.tvsgreatesthits.com/pocketlcars/
[01:12:44] < Netham45> sadly enough
[01:14:04] < Barrett> my router's mac address filtering is retarded
[01:14:10] < Barrett> you have to list which addresses to allow
[01:14:18] <+Nikky> :)so?
[01:14:23] < Netham45> exactly
[01:14:25] <@benryves> Barrett: Surely that's what you want?
[01:14:32] <+Nikky> Netham45 sucks
[01:14:34] < Barrett> there are too many devices to consider
[01:14:36] <@benryves> If you blocked particular addresses he'd just have to change his.
[01:14:42] < Barrett> i have 3 devices
[01:14:58] < Netham45> my mac blocking on my router has 15+ items
[01:14:59] < Barrett> and i have another roommate who I allow to use my internet (since he is actually worth something)
[01:15:07] < Netham45> Barrett, then allow him.
[01:15:12] < Netham45> or...
[01:15:15] < Netham45> take your cord back
[01:15:18] <+Nikky> shut up Netham45 
[01:15:51] < Netham45> Nikky, if I shut up, it will cause major disortion to the space-time continium. Like randomist being intelligent.
[01:16:19] <+patz2009> JUST FUCKING STOP JUST FUCKING STOP!
[01:16:31] <+Nikky> \o/
[01:16:33] <+Nikky> haha
[01:16:50] <@benryves> patz2009: Motherloving Hammertime?
[01:17:12] <+patz2009> pretty much
[01:17:56] <+tifreak> i wonder if that pocket lcars will work on my blackjack.. o.O
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[01:25:38] <+BrandonW> http://cgi.ebay.com/4GB-Genuine-Sandisk-MicroSD-TransFlash-Micro-SD-adapt_W0QQitemZ200204194797QQihZ010QQcategoryZ118260QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Is it really this cheap?
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[01:33:36] < glk> http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/US/sectionHome/download.html
[01:33:49] <+tifreak> i would think so brandon
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[01:48:57] <@efneTI86> [DSPLord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
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[01:49:24] <+BrandonW> In that case...mine.
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[01:49:41] <+tifreak> lol
[01:49:48] <+tifreak> i has a robo-bug ^_^
[01:50:52] <+BrandonW> Robo-bug?
[01:51:09] <+tifreak> yeah.. it is a lil bug looking thing, that has feelers on the front
[01:51:31] <+tifreak> when they ground out the poles, then it goes back, and tries to turn
[01:51:38] <+tifreak> its kind of a fun little distraction...
[01:52:36] <@benryves> tifreak: http://www.rev-ed.co.uk/picaxe/images/picaxe.jpg <- something like that?
[01:52:38] < Netham45> BrandonW, if I buy it before you, will you buy it from me for $15 more?
[01:52:40] < Netham45> :P
[01:53:32] <+BrandonW> I just bought it.
[01:53:50] < Netham45> "ti83programmer"
[01:54:47] <+BrandonW> Yes, that is me.
[01:55:35] <+tifreak> lol
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[01:55:55] <+tifreak> for brandon: http://tifreakware.net/sounds/borgsp.wav
[01:56:30] < Netham45> damnit
[01:56:37] < Netham45> you have 3 more feedback than I do
[01:56:48] <+tifreak> lol, I have 0 now :"(
[01:56:57] <+tifreak> had to make a new account
[01:57:40] <+tifreak> i had 60 at one point, 100% positive
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[01:58:04] <+tifreak> and btw, I am SO putting that wav file on my phone as a ringtone ^_^
[01:59:33] <@benryves> I like the way people stretch the truth with "item location". Last thing I bought took a few days longer than expected for "Location: UK", but - fair enough - that was in Jersey. However, claiming something is from the UK when it's actually being shipped from Hong Kong is only a decade or so out of date...
[01:59:43] < Barrett> ubicacion
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[02:00:38] <@efneTI86> [DSP_Lord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
[02:00:41] < Barrett> wait..... TI sells a black USB cable?
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[02:00:50] <+tifreak> .. o.O
[02:00:52] < Barrett> http://calcg.org/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?t=8384
[02:01:09] <+tifreak> lol ben
[02:01:10] < Barrett> oh, he's probably going USB<->USB
[02:01:14] <+BrandonW> Yeah.
[02:01:45] <+BrandonW> A newcomer can get confused hearing "black link" and thinking it's the direct USB cable.
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[02:02:08] < Barrett> can VTI extract a ROM via USB to USB?
[02:02:28] <@benryves> Given that it doesn't know about USB, I find it doubtful :\
[02:02:42] < Barrett> so, not even with the normal USB link?
[02:02:52] <+BrandonW> No.
[02:02:56] <+BrandonW> It only does serial and parallel.
[02:04:03] <+BrandonW> Assuming by "normal USB link" you mean the silverlink.
[02:04:10] < Barrett> yes
[02:04:29] <+BrandonW> We could write a direct USB or silverlink ROM dumper, but I don't care enough to fool with TiLP2.
[02:05:11] <+BrandonW> Anybody could do it, really...
[02:05:18] <+BrandonW> You'll just need to know the right USB calls on the 84+/SE.
[02:05:35] <+BrandonW> http://brandonw.net/calcstuff/USBdocs.txt And I wrote that up a while back.
[02:05:48] <+BrandonW> It's enough to send/receive.
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[02:09:14] <@efneTI86> [DSPLord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
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[02:09:20] <+tifreak> so brandon, what did you think of that bord/southpark clip? XD
[02:09:25] <+tifreak> borg*
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[02:11:42] <+BrandonW> Weird.
[02:11:48] <+BrandonW> I never watched South Park.
[02:11:59] <+BrandonW> But I know about the "They killed Kenny!" thing.
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[02:20:52] < i_c-Y> hasnt everyone heard of "OMG THEY KILLED KENNY! YOU BASTARDS!" 
[02:20:53] < i_c-Y> ?
[02:21:09] <+Speler> Those bastards make me so antry...
[02:21:12] <+Speler> angry*
[02:21:22] <+TD-Linux> someone please motivate me to finish this project
[02:21:31] <+TD-Linux> I have, like, absolutely no interest atm
[02:22:27] < i_c-Y> would a !k help?
[02:23:00] < millinao> what project, TD-Linux?
[02:23:19] <+BrandonW> We could ban you from this fascinating channel, and then boredom will drive you to it.
[02:23:37] <+TD-Linux> oh just some school junk
[02:23:45] <+TD-Linux> no, a !k wouldn't help
[02:23:48] <+TD-Linux> I'm not even on IRC
[02:23:52] <+TD-Linux> I just start staring at the page
[02:23:57] <+TD-Linux> and getting lost on wikipedia
[02:23:58] <+TD-Linux> etc
[02:24:01] <+TD-Linux> I'm half done already though
[02:24:11] < i_c-Y> haha
[02:25:13] <+TD-Linux> note to self
[02:25:18] <+TD-Linux> when googling for federal art project
[02:25:22] <+BrandonW> It looks to me like you're on IRC.
[02:25:26] <+TD-Linux> do not enter the abbreviation into google image search
[02:25:32] <+TD-Linux> I am now :(
[02:25:41] <+TD-Linux> anyone have a bit of spare time?
[02:26:04] <+TD-Linux> find a good website for me on WPA (FAP) art during the great depression with examples :/
[02:27:07] <+TD-Linux> hmm maybe better
[02:27:15] <+TD-Linux> I should do music during the great depression w00t
[02:28:44] < i_c-Y> fap art?
[02:28:56] < i_c-Y> why do you want pictures of people fapping during the great depression?
[02:29:05] < i_c-Y> ;)
[02:33:19] <+tifreak> lol
[02:39:48] < millinao> god, what an asshole this guy is
[02:41:01] < millinao> i've been playing cello longer than him, and he says if he needs a private teacher that he could teach me
[02:41:21] <+tifreak> lol
[02:41:28] <+tifreak> someone having ego issues? XD
[02:41:40] < millinao> in retrospect, what I typed is probably less asshole-ish than what he actualy said
[02:41:53] < millinao> yeah, he thinks he's the shit
[02:42:08] <+tifreak> lots of people like that
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[02:43:23] < millinao> he says he's in the "higher" orchestra, but it really doesn't mean shit
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[02:50:46] <+BrandonW> http://youtube.com/watch?v=-0pm_DUTnYc&feature=related Read the last comment.
[02:52:42] <+TD-Linux> I play cello o.O
[02:52:50] < Netham45> fuzzieboo your 9!you dont need a phone!!!! im 14 and rarely use mine!! you must be spoild
[02:52:52] < Netham45> that?
[02:53:38] <+TD-Linux>  yea the powerpoint is great on this phone..my teacher puts her tests in a powerpoint slides..so i put the file on my pda and i got a 100..it was crazy
[02:53:40] <+TD-Linux> I think that
[02:53:53] <+TD-Linux> haha 'the screen takes 5 minutes to turn sideways'
[02:54:23] <+TD-Linux> hah this one is great too "i am having trouble being able to record videos or even knowing if there is a video camera on the phone"
[02:59:13] <+BrandonW> Idiots...
[02:59:17] <+BrandonW> And yes, the teacher thing.
[02:59:24] <+BrandonW> It does not take long at all to turn sideways.
[02:59:57] <+BrandonW> If you flip it like ten times in a few seconds, it'll get confused and then it might take 2-3 seconds.
[03:00:01] <+BrandonW> But be sensible about it and it's fine.
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[03:07:02] <@efneTI86> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[03:16:51] <@efneTI86> [Merthslop] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
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[03:31:17] < Barrett> I don't quite understand why this movie caused such a stir amongst certain christian religions...... there isn't a whole lot in it that goes against anything in the Bible...
[03:31:21] < Barrett> (the da vinci code)
[03:33:19] <+Sir_Lewk> how about "it was a stupid movie"
[03:33:28] <+BrandonW> You say it's stupid because you don't understand it.
[03:33:29] < Barrett> that would be a valid reason, I suppose
[03:33:44] <+Sir_Lewk> incredibly overhyped, just because it was "edgy"
[03:33:55] <+BrandonW> Who said it was "edgy"?
[03:34:00] <+Sir_Lewk> the plot was incredibly simplistic
[03:34:12] <+BrandonW> I'm sure that's what you got out of it.
[03:34:13] <+Sir_Lewk> it's edgy because it offended people
[03:34:40] <+Sir_Lewk> brb, gotta root a box
[03:34:47] <+BrandonW> I bet you do, pervert.
[03:35:33] < Barrett> I'd agree that it's overhyped, but it makes some good points.......... not that I believe anything that it says, but it makes people think that perhaps things happened that aren't documented
[03:37:10] <+Sir_Lewk> done
[03:37:20] <+BrandonW> http://www.homestead.com/ I didn't know this site was still around.
[03:37:22] <+BrandonW> Memories...
[03:37:30] < Barrett> haha... I think I still have a homestead site
[03:38:34] < Barrett> pretty sure that it forwards to calcgames.org, though
[03:41:16] <+BrandonW> I'm thinking of bringing my 83+SE to work tomorrow, because another guy has one, too.
[03:41:26] <+BrandonW> He'll either like it or freak out.
[03:42:57]  * patz2009 freaks out
[03:43:21] <+Tari_> I need to get my own soldering iron
[03:43:44] <+BrandonW> You don't have your own soldering iron? What kind of human being are you?!
[03:43:46] < i_c-Y> lol homestead
[03:43:49] < i_c-Y> thats so old
[03:44:08] <+BrandonW> I probably have an old one you can have, Tari.
[03:44:15] < i_c-Y> i use my dad's soldering iron at home and i dont have one in the dorms. so i use one at school
[03:44:43] <+BrandonW> I don't know why, but I keep buying the cheap Radio Shack ones.
[03:44:47] <+BrandonW> But they get the job done.
[03:44:48] <+Tari_> I might take you up on that, BrandonW
[03:44:50] <+BrandonW> I'd love to have a really fine one.
[03:44:51]  * Nikky snuggles BrandonW 
[03:44:53] <+Tari_> trade it for that 83
[03:45:00] <+Tari_> +
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[03:45:55] <+BrandonW> I'm going to put one of these 73s inside an 83+ case and convert it.
[03:46:02] <+BrandonW> I don't know what I'll do with the 73 case...
[03:46:08] <+BrandonW> This is the one with the borked LCD but still works, right?
[03:46:24] <+Tari_> borked driver
[03:46:26] <+Tari_> yeah
[03:46:38] <+Tari_> it'll occasionally reset the contrast
[03:46:56] <+BrandonW> I might throw that in the 73 case and use it as the remote control 83+.
[03:47:15] <+Tari_> as long as the LCD doesn't matter
[03:47:27] <+Tari_> since I may swap it for a cracked one
[03:47:35] <+BrandonW> Do you know if it boots without an LCD attached at all?
[03:47:52] <+Tari_> I think it should
[03:48:08] <+Tari_> as long as the driver is still there
[03:48:16] <+BrandonW> If it boots and I can talk to it through the link port, I'm happy.
[03:48:22] <+BrandonW> And even if not, I still get the case.
[03:48:23] <+Tari_> alright
[03:48:40] <+Tari_> I'll be able to talk to its owner tomorrow
[03:50:45] <+BrandonW> Is it kind of insane to have a page where you can remote control the 83+?
[03:50:52] <+BrandonW> Somebody did the Christmas light thing one year...
[03:50:57] <+BrandonW> lights*
[03:50:58] <+Nikky> Jman
[03:52:02] <+BrandonW> It's possible someone could type in a short program that archives/unarchives over and over and wears out the Flash.
[03:52:05] <+BrandonW> And I'd never know.
[03:52:57] <+BrandonW> Actually, anything like that would take it down, since GetKey wouldn't be active.
[03:53:10] <+BrandonW> Originally I was going to disable running any programs.
[03:53:13] <+BrandonW> But then it's not so fun.
[03:53:30] <+BrandonW> Although if you're in the middle of nowhere and you need to know what value an 83+ would return for some math thing...
[03:53:54] <+BrandonW> Or what a graph would look like...
[03:57:04] <+patz2009> BrandonW: You could rewrite that code to make it so you can use the 83+ over the internet
[03:57:22] <+BrandonW> What code?
[03:57:31] <+patz2009> You said you wrote one before
[03:57:38] <+BrandonW> I already did.
[03:57:45] <+BrandonW> I used to have the page up.
[03:57:56] <+BrandonW> It would directly connect my PC and tell it to send remote control requests to the calculator.
[03:57:59] <+BrandonW> And request a screenshot.
[03:58:02] <+BrandonW> So you could see what you were doing.
[03:58:08] <+BrandonW> to my PC*
[03:58:12] <+patz2009> And where is it now?
[03:58:23] <+BrandonW> That domain went down, and when I made brandonw.net, I just didn't put it back.
[03:58:33] <+patz2009> I see.
[03:58:36] <+BrandonW> It sucked anyway, because it was sending the screenshots uncompressed.
[03:58:56] < Netham45> fuck, I think I just corrupted the firmware on my PSP
[03:59:05] <+Nikky> pwnt
[03:59:08] <+Nikky> that's what you get for hacking
[03:59:09] <+BrandonW> I had some sort of PHP problem where I couldn't render the screenshot by sending bits at a time, so I sent a byte for each pixel, so that was 6KB.
[03:59:19] <+patz2009> ouch
[03:59:29] < Netham45> Nikky, pandora ftw. ;)
[03:59:35] <+Nikky> I don't care
[03:59:43] <+Nikky> PSPs are stupid.
[03:59:46] <+BrandonW> No, you are.
[03:59:50] <+Nikky> You are
[03:59:55] <+BrandonW> You are.
[04:00:00] <+Nikky> You are.
[04:00:06] <+BrandonW> No, you are.
[04:00:11] <+BrandonW> You know why you are?
[04:00:13] <+Nikky> I believe you are.
[04:00:14] <+BrandonW> Because you said the PSP is stupid.
[04:00:17] <+BrandonW> You believe wrong.
[04:00:18] <+Nikky> Dang
[04:00:23] <+Nikky> I can't fight that logic. :(
[04:00:32] <+BrandonW> That's what you get for trying.
[04:00:35]  * Nikky rolls over and waits to be scratched
[04:00:56]  * Netham45 kicks Nikky in the stomach
[04:01:55] <+Nikky> :(
[04:03:05]  * chronomex got a 92+ today
[04:03:06] < chronomex> $40
[04:03:56] <+patz2009> wewt
[04:04:29] <+BrandonW> Plus module?
[04:05:26] <+Nikky> at bainbridge
[04:05:28] <+Nikky> traitor
[04:05:44] < Netham45> well
[04:05:49] < Netham45> I do believe I just "bricked" my psp
[04:05:49] <+patz2009> +
[04:05:54] < Netham45> wait no
[04:06:18] < i_c-Y> <+Nikky> I can't fight that logic. :( < if only that logic worked for religion.
[04:06:23]  * DarkAuron has been playing games on his PSP quite a lot lately.
[04:06:31] < i_c-Y> Netham45: if you brick your psp does that mean you'll be away for a while?
[04:06:46] <+BrandonW> No, it means he'll tell us all about how he's using Pandora's battery to restore it.
[04:06:51] <+Nikky> i_c-Y: Hopeefully.
[04:07:00] < i_c-Y> damn it
[04:07:24] <+Nikky> Who sold him pandora?
[04:07:38] <+BrandonW> Unbelievable that in this day and age, we still can't beat $160 for a Voyage 200.
[04:07:45] <+Nikky> Makes sense
[04:07:47] <+BrandonW> Nikky, no one here.
[04:07:50] <+Nikky> the V200 is *the* calculator
[04:07:55] <+BrandonW> No, it sucks.
[04:08:00] <+Nikky> BrandonW: Good. Because I would have had to kill you.
[04:08:24] < Netham45> I bought a pandora off of codejunkies for $30
[04:08:29] <+BrandonW> If I were selling Netham something, I would charge him an outrageous price to counter how many people he's screwed out of old calculators.
[04:08:34] <+Nikky> haha
[04:08:38] <+Nikky> street justice
[04:08:53] < Netham45> I've screwed ppl out of old calcs?
[04:09:01] <+Nikky> Yes
[04:09:02] <+patz2009> For great justice?
[04:09:04] <+Nikky> You also pirate
[04:09:06] < DarkAuron> great justice!
[04:09:07] < Netham45> cool!
[04:09:14] <+BrandonW> You charged ridiculous prices for your 83+s, yes.
[04:09:24] < Netham45> what?
[04:09:28] <+BrandonW> To people at school.
[04:09:29] < Netham45> I usually sell them for $60
[04:09:30] <+BrandonW> Don't deny it, it's in the logs.
[04:09:33] <+BrandonW> And that's a lot.
[04:09:34] <+Nikky> Thief
[04:09:44] < Netham45> the school RENTS them for $40
[04:09:52] <+BrandonW> This is not helping your case.
[04:09:59] < chronomex> BrandonW: not w/module, it's hw2
[04:10:04] < Netham45> so..
[04:10:12] < Netham45> $60 for 4 years, for $120 for 4 years...
[04:10:16] <+BrandonW> chronomex: thumbs down. :(
[04:10:17] < Netham45> school doubles the price.
[04:10:24] < chronomex> BrandonW: why?
[04:10:35] <+BrandonW> Because you must have the Plus module.
[04:10:37] <+BrandonW> Or it's not worth having.
[04:10:48] < chronomex> why ... ?
[04:10:57] < chronomex> its 92+ not module, HW2
[04:11:00] <+BrandonW> Because it's a rare collector's item!
[04:11:05] < chronomex> that it is!
[04:11:12] < chronomex> but I have to get one of each
[04:11:21] < Netham45> \o/
[04:11:22] <+BrandonW> You're trying to get them all?
[04:11:23] < chronomex> I already have one rare collectors item ^_^
[04:11:25] < chronomex> yes
[04:11:25] < Netham45> got 3.40OE-A on my PSP!
[04:11:36] <+BrandonW> Congratulations, you're behind the rest of us.
[04:11:37] < DarkAuron> you should upgrade to 3.90 M33
[04:11:39] <+patz2009> Netham45: Get with the times.
[04:11:42] < DarkAuron> even I did
[04:11:56] <+BrandonW> chronomex, all 68k's, or _all_ of them?
[04:12:02] < Netham45> DarkAuron, I was having trouble getting to an OS that will upgrade to 3.90 M33-2
[04:12:11] < chronomex> BrandonW: all 68k hardware revisions
[04:12:15] < Netham45> but, getting to 3.40 OE-A fixes that
[04:12:22] <+patz2009> Netham45: Universal Unbricker?
[04:12:30] < Netham45> patz2009, pandora?
[04:12:34] < DarkAuron> you still need at least 3.52 M33-3
[04:12:45] < DarkAuron> unless 3.40OE-A is a step closer you hadn't been to :P
[04:12:46] < glk> http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/US/sectionHome/download.html
[04:12:49] < Netham45> well, I have that on my card right now.
[04:12:51] < Netham45> yea
[04:12:52] < DarkAuron> okay
[04:13:00] < Netham45> I was at 2.71OE
[04:13:12] <+BrandonW> Why did you give us that link, glk?
[04:13:12] <+patz2009> Yeah. It should give you an option to install 3.80 M33-5 at least
[04:13:35] < DarkAuron> I did 3.52 M33, 3.52 M33-3, then 3.90 M33
[04:13:37] < chronomex> BrandonW: don't ask
[04:13:48] < DarkAuron> 3.40OE-A was the latest when I got my PSP
[04:13:49] < Netham45> don't tell
[04:13:51] <+BrandonW> Why not?
[04:13:57]  * chronomex shrugs
[04:14:22] < Netham45> lol
[04:14:46] < Netham45> DarkAuron, does it need to be M33-3?
[04:14:50] <+BrandonW> http://cgi.ebay.com/Texas-Instruments-TI-82-Stats-Graphing-Calculator-UK-BN_W0QQitemZ370027465694QQihZ024QQcategoryZ9972QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m122 I wonder if I should go for it.
[04:14:52] < Netham45> because I have M33 on my PSP, but not M33-3
[04:15:31] < chronomex> whoa BrandonW, that's disgustingly cool
[04:15:35] < DarkAuron> yes
[04:15:52] <+BrandonW> That was the worst case design they ever did.
[04:16:00] <+BrandonW> And you guys complain about the 84+/SE/89Ti.
[04:16:04] < chronomex> lol
[04:16:10] < Netham45> ewie
[04:16:13]  * Netham45 cries
[04:16:15] < chronomex> the 89ti keyboard is curved the wrong way!
[04:16:17] <+BrandonW> Guess where the link port is.
[04:16:41] < chronomex> top?
[04:16:42] < DarkAuron> and when going to 3.90 M33 you'll need to make sure you're in 3.52 homebrew not 1.50 homebrew, otherwise the updater won't run. then you'll have to add 1.50 to 3.90 M33 if you want to run anything that uses 1.50 because it's not included with 3.90 M33
[04:16:48] <+BrandonW> On the right side, toward the bottom.
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[04:16:52] < chronomex> hahaha
[04:17:04] < chronomex> weird-ass
[04:17:11] < Gr|m> Bah... So where'd u all learn ur assembly skillz
[04:17:36] < DarkAuron> an opcode table
[04:17:45] < Gr|m> sounds easy
[04:17:45] <+BrandonW> So who are you talking to?
[04:17:50] < Gr|m> The world
[04:17:53] < chronomex> Gr|m: where'd you learn your spelling?  Cos I want to smack them with a clue-by-four
[04:17:59] <+BrandonW> Believe it or not, AsmGuru.
[04:18:02] < Gr|m> Mrs. Rogers
[04:18:09] < Gr|m> 1st grade
[04:18:17] < Gr|m> Need more infoz?
[04:18:21] < chronomex> yeah
[04:18:41] < Gr|m> Indian Bend Elementary, pretty sure she doesn't teach there any more tho
[04:18:43] < Gr|m> PHX, AZ
[04:19:25] < Gr|m> Can someone link me to a large opcode table with C and English equivalents? Pweez?
[04:19:26] < chronomex> bah, that's too far to travel
[04:19:28]  * chronomex calls up MV
[04:19:37] < chronomex> Gr|m: what processor?
[04:19:38] < Gr|m> I think she may have moved to like Utah or something
[04:19:39] < Gr|m> Not fure
[04:19:41] < Gr|m> Intel
[04:19:45] < Gr|m> 8086?
[04:19:49] < chronomex> this isn't exactly the place to ask ...
[04:20:05] < Gr|m> Why?
[04:20:07] < chronomex> unless you know something we don't
[04:20:10] < chronomex> which is doubtful
[04:20:11] < Gr|m> Oh, that's old isn't it.
[04:20:20] < Gr|m> I'm looking for right one.
[04:20:26] <+BrandonW> http://cgi.ebay.com/TI-TEXAS-INSTRUMENTS-KEYBOARD-CRADLE-TI-83-TI-83_W0QQitemZ330209135431QQihZ014QQcategoryZ50576QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Nonsense...it should not cost this much...
[04:20:30] < Gr|m> Why, this is a programming channel...
[04:20:31] < chronomex> no TI calculator that _I_ know of used an intel processor
[04:20:43] < chronomex> BrandonW?
[04:20:50] <+BrandonW> What?
[04:20:52] < Gr|m> Oh... Well, I'll make you one.
[04:21:13] < chronomex> no, Gr|m, I'm afraid that won't work unless you're a TI employee
[04:21:22] < Gr|m> Pfft
[04:21:24] <+BrandonW> You can have a nifty ARM if you get an Nspire.
[04:21:32] < Gr|m> You underestimate my free time.
[04:21:34] < chronomex> BrandonW: is ARM Intel?
[04:21:42] <+BrandonW> No, but that's the best you'll do.
[04:21:48] < Gr|m> Who makes ARM?
[04:21:54] < Gr|m> Never thought about it...
[04:21:57] < Gr|m> TI does, right?
[04:22:27] < Gr|m> Will someone tell me the proccessor type I'm trying to name at least - 80886?
[04:22:47] <+BrandonW> ARM does.
[04:23:03] < Gr|m> 80386
[04:23:06] < Gr|m> Thx guys 
[04:24:07] < mokomull> A lot of people make ARM chips.  ARM makes no physical chips.
[04:24:07] < Gr|m> Ok another Q, also a lil' off topic... 
[04:24:26] <+BrandonW> And your others weren't?
[04:24:28] < Gr|m> Both Flat Assembler and NASM error on the MOVL command
[04:24:29] < mokomull> And I have an ARM-based calculator that's not an nspire ><
[04:24:38] <+BrandonW> A TI one?
[04:24:40] < mokomull> Gr|m: What are you trying to do?
[04:24:41] < Gr|m> I didn't say they weren't
[04:24:43] < mokomull> BrandonW: Nope :)
[04:24:47] < Gr|m> Play with some assembly
[04:24:47] <+BrandonW> Then hush your mouth!
[04:24:57] <+BrandonW> Go find a PC channel.
[04:24:58] < Gr|m> The book I'm reading is for the 80386
[04:25:02] <+BrandonW> This one's primarily about programming calculators.
[04:25:08] < Gr|m> Full of morons? No, I want programmers
[04:25:10] <+Nikky> mokomull doesn't even own a TI calculator
[04:25:13] <+Nikky> he's a traitor and loser
[04:25:19] <+BrandonW> Burn him!
[04:25:21] < chronomex> shh Nikky
[04:25:32] < Gr|m> But he is helping me..
[04:25:43] <+BrandonW> Doesn't matter, all HP'ers are lying scum.
[04:25:46] <+BrandonW> Same with Casio.
[04:25:55] < mokomull> I will admit, it's a hunk of shit.
[04:25:58] < Gr|m> Anyways, the book wants me to use the GNU gas assembler, which, running windows, I don't really have built it.
[04:26:01] < mokomull> But I don't use it at all anymore.
[04:26:17] <+BrandonW> I want it on the record, people.
[04:26:30] <+BrandonW> "I will admit, it's a hunk of shit."
[04:26:34] < mokomull> haha :)
[04:26:50] < chronomex> mokomull: what calc?
[04:27:01] < mokomull> chronomex: HP 49g+
[04:27:10] < chronomex> Is it worth it?
[04:27:14] < mokomull> nah
[04:27:16] <+Nikky> no
[04:27:22] < chronomex> ok
[04:27:23] <+Nikky> Casio is the only good brand
[04:27:28] <+Nikky> they have color screens
[04:27:30] <+Nikky> shove it TI
[04:27:42] <+BrandonW> Die.
[04:27:42] < chronomex> so my 89 with RPN and EQW should mostly own it, right?
[04:27:50] <+Nikky> RPN rules
[04:27:51] <+Nikky> <3
[04:27:54]  * chronomex high-fives Nikky
[04:27:57] < Gr|m> Q: What assembler do you guys use?
[04:28:02] < chronomex> a68k
[04:28:05] <+BrandonW> TASM.
[04:28:06] <+Nikky> I assemble with my mind.
[04:28:14] <+BrandonW> Find...a PC...channel.
[04:28:28] < mokomull> Gr|m: Or talk to me in PM, for chrissakes.
[04:28:30] < Gr|m> What does the N in NASM stand for?
[04:28:33] < Gr|m> Okz
[04:28:38] <+BrandonW> Google can tell you.
[04:28:55] <+BrandonW> Although I used both NASM and TASM for x86.
[04:31:33] <+BrandonW> You know, you would think that TI's TI Keyboard link would point to their own online store.
[04:31:39] <+BrandonW> But no.
[04:35:11] <+BrandonW> Unbelievable...it's only $2 cheaper to go through eBay than their online store for the keyboard.
[04:35:16] <+BrandonW> What an overpriced piece of junk.
[04:35:30] <+BrandonW> I'm so glad the USB keyboard driver put that to shame.
[04:35:39] <+patz2009> :)
[04:36:09] <+BrandonW> And the thing is, that can probably easily be done on the 89Ti.
[04:36:21] <+BrandonW> Anyone with any experience at all disassembling their OS could probably figure it out.
[04:36:32] < DarkAuron> because theres totally a lot of people that do that :P
[04:36:39] <+BrandonW> You would think there'd be ONE.
[04:36:44] <+BrandonW> A French dude or something.
[04:36:51] < DarkAuron> why they gotta be french?
[04:37:01] <+BrandonW> Lots of French 68k people.
[04:37:07] <+BrandonW> They're in their own little world.
[04:37:13] < chronomex> it's amazing
[04:37:16] < DarkAuron> I think you're just racist. :P
[04:37:20] < chronomex> no
[04:37:22] < chronomex> it's true
[04:37:26] < chronomex> it's inexplicable
[04:37:28] < chronomex> it's amazing
[04:37:29] < DarkAuron> just kidding
[04:38:14] <+BrandonW> I bet there's some French guy sitting in his apartment right now giggling at himself typing on a USB keyboard to his 89Ti, and no one knows about it.
[04:38:52] <+BrandonW> Hoarding the knowledge all to himself.
[04:38:59] < chronomex> :O
[04:39:01] <+BrandonW> And eating brie.
[04:39:04] < chronomex> we need to find this man
[04:39:07] < chronomex> tie him up
[04:39:10] < chronomex> and make him talk
[04:39:23] <+BrandonW> Or we could just punch him and take his PC/hard drive.
[04:39:29] <+BrandonW> It wouldn't take much to take him down, I'm sure.
[04:39:35] < chronomex> lol
[04:39:57] <+BrandonW> He might even surrender before we get to his door.
[04:40:10] <+BrandonW> HAHAHAHAHAHA
[04:40:15] <+BrandonW> Yes. We will find him.
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[04:40:26] <+BrandonW> I'm tired. :(
[04:40:40]  * chronomex hugs BrandonW
[04:40:43] < chronomex> here, have some foodz
[04:41:15] < Gr|m> Oh yeh, that's on topic
[04:41:25] <+BrandonW> We were discussing 89Ti USB, you savage.
[04:41:30] <+BrandonW> That's a lot better than x86 assembly.
[04:41:31] < Gr|m> Harsh
[04:41:39] <+BrandonW> :(
[04:41:41] <+Nikky> Hi Slayer__.
[04:42:00] <+BrandonW> chronomex, write this USB driver already. The community's depending on it.
[04:42:08] < chronomex> eeeee ok
[04:42:19] < chronomex> I guess I should stop hoarding stuff and get to work, yeah?
[04:42:32] <+BrandonW> You've already done it, haven't you?
[04:42:33]  * DarkAuron has a ti-89T as well
[04:42:33] <+BrandonW> I knew it.
[04:42:41] <+BrandonW> You have it sitting in some directory.
[04:42:42] < chronomex> no, I haven't -__
[04:42:43] < chronomex> -_-
[04:42:46] <+BrandonW> Yes, you do.
[04:42:48] <+BrandonW> Denier.
[04:42:53] < chronomex> I meant I have 4 68k calcs
[04:42:57] < chronomex> v_v
[04:43:06] < chronomex> crap, I've become anime
[04:43:18] <+BrandonW> I have...3.
[04:43:29] <+BrandonW> 89, 92, 92 with Plus module.
[04:43:46] <+BrandonW> That's two HW1s.
[04:44:01] < chronomex> 89hw2, 89Ti/hw4, v200/hw3, 92+/hw2
[04:44:19] < chronomex> what hw is the 89?
[04:44:22] <+BrandonW> Together, we make up all the hardware versions.
[04:44:29] <+BrandonW> 1 and 2, depends on when you got it.
[04:44:36] <+BrandonW> Mine is 1.
[04:44:37] < chronomex> no, which do you have?
[04:44:38] < chronomex> ok
[04:44:46] < chronomex> I'm trying to get one of those
[04:44:47] <+BrandonW> I said two HW1s.
[04:44:48] < chronomex> also a hw3
[04:44:55] < chronomex> then what's the hw2?
[04:45:01] <+BrandonW> You said you had a Voyage 200, that's HW3.
[04:45:06] < chronomex> ah
[04:45:08] < chronomex> what's your hw2?
[04:45:09] <+BrandonW> The 92 is nothing, I didn't count it.
[04:45:12] < chronomex> ok
[04:45:15] <+BrandonW> The 89 and 92 with Plus module are the two HW1s.
[04:45:22] < chronomex> glad we've gotten this figured out
[04:45:48] <+BrandonW> I think the HW1 89 is rare.
[04:46:15] < Barrett> more rare than the non-HW1 89s
[04:46:30] < chronomex> BrandonW: not really
[04:46:34] <+BrandonW> I remember wanting to keep my HW1 89 when I sent it to TI because of the 1.00->1.05 craziness.
[04:46:44] < chronomex> BrandonW: what's that?
[04:46:53] < chronomex> they upgraded them for you?
[04:46:56] <+BrandonW> That's when they broke all assembly programs, and they had to be patched to run on 1.05.
[04:47:00] < chronomex> ah
[04:47:05] < chronomex> I remember that
[04:47:12] <+BrandonW> My HW1 89 broke, and when I sent it in, I was afraid they'd just send a replacement HW2 89.
[04:47:18] <+BrandonW> Which sucked at the time because of grayscale issues and all.
[04:47:18] < chronomex> first in a long line of such breakages :|
[04:47:23] <+BrandonW> Now I want it. :( I have no clock and all.
[04:47:31] < chronomex> haha
[04:47:43] < chronomex> who needs a clock?
[04:47:53] < chronomex> you have a cellphone _and_ a watch, right?
[04:47:56] <+BrandonW> Who needs a clock?!
[04:48:04] < chronomex> I want to turn my calc into a pinball timer, nevermind
[04:48:09] <+BrandonW> Yes, and what's scary is that I can play Tetris on all three of them.
[04:48:32] < chronomex> haha
[04:48:42] <+BrandonW> I love my watch.
[04:48:51] <+BrandonW> I need to order a few years' worth of replacement bands.
[04:48:54] < chronomex> I love your watch too
[04:48:55] <+BrandonW> Because I want to keep it forever.
[04:49:41] <+BrandonW> Programs on the watch are 900 bytes max and all event-driven.
[04:49:49] <+BrandonW> It amazes me what they've written for it.
[04:49:57] < chronomex> what watch is this?
[04:50:03] <+BrandonW> Timex Data Link USB watch.
[04:50:09] < chronomex> I've heard of that
[04:50:21] <+BrandonW> http://www.amazon.com/Timex-T53722-Mens-Watch/dp/B0000U5BYU
[04:50:35] < Barrett> BYU!
[04:51:03] <+Nikky> ?
[04:51:12] <+Nikky> Do you highlight on tiat
[04:51:15] < Barrett> no
[04:51:19] < DarkAuron> lol?
[04:51:20] < DarkAuron> Buy this watch with Timex Data Link USB Watch #T53722 by Timex today! 
[04:51:23] < Barrett> I just happened to be watching
[04:51:32] < DarkAuron> amazon just recommend buying two of them
[04:51:41] < chronomex> yeah
[04:51:42] <+BrandonW> As we all should.
[04:51:45] <+BrandonW> I have two.
[04:52:10]  * chronomex readies the credit card to be like brandonw
[04:52:23] <+BrandonW> It's because the first one broke, of course.
[04:52:26] <+BrandonW> But still.
[04:53:01] < chronomex> but it's a timex!  it's supposed to take a licking and keep on ticking!
[04:53:12] <+patz2009> lolwut
[04:53:12] < chronomex> I have a timex that's been on my arm in two bike accidents
[04:53:15] < chronomex> didn't lose a second
[04:53:27] <+BrandonW> The first one still keeps time perfectly, of course.
[04:53:32] < chronomex> hell, I lost more teeth than it lost seconds
[04:53:33] <+BrandonW> The band is broken and the buttons don't work so well.
[04:53:37] < chronomex> sad
[04:53:50] <+BrandonW> The crown is very hard to use.
[04:53:56] <+BrandonW> But the second one's much better.
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[04:55:08] < chronomex> that's good
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[05:10:48] < chronomex> soooo
[05:10:54] < chronomex> awkward silence!
[05:14:26] < Netham45> sooooo
[05:14:30] < Netham45> then stfu.
[05:14:37] < chronomex> in the dishwasher: forks: point up or point down?
[05:14:57] < Netham45> either.
[05:14:59] < Netham45> doesn't matter.
[05:15:02] < chronomex> which?
[05:15:09] < Netham45> just keep them away from your eyes.
[05:15:09] <+patz2009> down
[05:15:13] <+patz2009> spoons up though
[05:15:20] < chronomex> ok
[05:15:24] < chronomex> knives?
[05:15:28] <+patz2009> down
[05:15:52] < chronomex> measuring cups?
[05:16:00] <+patz2009> =/
[05:16:27] < chronomex> fine
[05:16:32] <+patz2009> haha
[05:17:29] <+bsparks> best xkcd ever
[05:17:37] <+patz2009> hmm?
[05:17:45] <+bsparks> best xkcd ever.
[05:20:39] < chronomex> woot, awesome
[05:20:42] < chronomex> but I won it ages ago
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[05:29:55] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!!
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[06:00:46] <+BrandonW> http://www.unitedti.org/index.php?showtopic=7637 My name is in this readme.
[06:00:53] <+BrandonW> I must disassemble it.
[06:01:40] <@Grue> ...
[06:06:31] <+BrandonW> He's using some odd code I haven't seen before.
[06:07:31] <+BrandonW> I have no idea why he's doing it.
[06:07:41] <+BrandonW> Maybe it's generated.
[06:11:04] <+BrandonW> It has to be.
[06:11:10] <+BrandonW> There's no way a normal person would write this.
[06:11:14] < chronomex> why, cos no person ... yeah
[06:15:55] <+BrandonW> http://rafb.net/p/MCFEYb75.html Look at the string display routines.
[06:16:47] < chronomex> what addr?
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[06:22:28] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!!
[06:22:37] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Sir_Lewk] by etaonrish
[06:22:51] <+Sir_Lewk> ...
[06:23:37] <+Sir_Lewk> the people on my college radio station are talking about having catheters inserted into their urethras...
[06:23:49] <+BrandonW> It just occurred to me that there are like 4 people in that one thread alone who are writing their own fake memory clear program.
[06:23:50] < chronomex> Sir_Lewk: some people get off interestingly
[06:23:57] <+BrandonW> It's the new BASIC quadratic formula solver!
[06:24:20] <+BrandonW> chronomex, look at the beginning, you can see how it calls a routine that gets the string from the return address on the stack and then changing it to point after it.
[06:24:29] < chronomex> BrandonW: maybe it's more like the class registration scripts that everyone who knows anything has here
[06:24:52] <+BrandonW> Class registration scripts?
[06:24:54] < chronomex> BrandonW: ? ok ... I'm in .py mode atm
[06:25:06] < chronomex> to register so you don't have to get up at 6am to get in classes you want
[06:25:07] <+BrandonW> You asked, so I told you.
[06:25:11] < chronomex> ok
[06:25:14] < chronomex> sorry
[06:25:41] <+Sir_Lewk> http://www.wkdu.org/wkdu-high.m3u
[06:25:49] <+BrandonW> What do your class registration scripts have to do with anything?
[06:25:53] <+Sir_Lewk> aw, never mind, they stopped
[06:26:26] < chronomex> BrandonW: it's a rite of passage, they're universally used but not shared.  I thought that a fake mem clear might be somewhat similar
[06:27:08] <+Sir_Lewk> oh crap, I just won the game :O
[06:27:18] < chronomex> xkcd, eh?
[06:27:22] <+Sir_Lewk> ya
[06:28:21] <+BrandonW> They all try to beat each other.
[06:28:29] <+BrandonW> And make the best fake memory clear application there is.
[06:28:54] < chronomex> is our children learning?
[06:28:56]  * chronomex ducks
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[06:31:20] <+Nikky> haha
[06:32:12] < chronomex> Nikky: you might find this interesting ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/wsdot/
[06:32:20] <+Nikky> uhoh
[06:32:26] < chronomex> :P
[06:32:36] < chronomex> its pictures of roads and shit
[06:32:41] < chronomex> *stuff
[06:32:51] < chronomex> >.>  <.<
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[06:36:12] < chronomex> do they still sell color slide cases?
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[06:37:28] < chronomex> they DO
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[06:51:54] < chronomex> new survey GO
[06:52:06] <+Sir_Lewk> I beseech the great and mighty #tcpa gods for assistance.
[06:52:21] < chronomex> uhoh, what?
[06:52:23] <+Sir_Lewk> how is it that I may XOR an entire harddrive?
[06:52:45] < chronomex> ummmmm
[06:52:57] < chronomex> that's a bit of an odd question
[06:52:58] < chronomex> perl?
[06:53:08] <+Sir_Lewk> yeah, that was my thought
[06:53:42] <+Sir_Lewk> I went to a perl one-liner seminar a few days ago, figure it would be pretty sweet to do it like that
[06:53:59] <+Sir_Lewk> unfortunately I don't know a ton of perl
[06:54:19] < chronomex> who in the world ... um ... I have no further words.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D99NHb6B03s
[06:54:50] <+Sir_Lewk> those things are awesome
[06:55:47] <+Sir_Lewk> the thing makes a glock look so much more wicked
[06:56:24] < chronomex> but is it a concealed weapon in your back pocket?
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[06:57:11] < millinao> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l35ePHH8qM
[06:57:13] < millinao> hahaha
[06:58:24] < millinao> also, complete leetsauce: http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3765/1202816751922ao3.jpg
[06:58:49] <+Sir_Lewk> I love the fake minigun in the background
[06:59:05] < millinao> heh
[06:59:12] < millinao> come on, that image has everything
[06:59:19] < chronomex> no women though
[06:59:20]  * chronomex sulks
[06:59:21] < millinao> computers, guns, and more computers
[06:59:29] < millinao> screw women
[06:59:42] < chronomex> well you can't if they're not there
[06:59:48] <+Sir_Lewk> yes, that is what you do with them...
[07:00:01] < chronomex> millinao: I think you're missing the point here
[07:01:00] < chronomex> c'mon guys!
[07:01:17] < chronomex> there's a new survey up!  virginal comment board!  no votes yet!
[07:01:34] < millinao> where?
[07:01:37] < chronomex> ticalc.org
[07:01:45]  * chronomex has the inside feed
[07:02:10] < millinao> what about other?
[07:02:18] < millinao> mine has a black spot on the LCD
[07:02:30] < chronomex> that's not customizing, that's just ghetto
[07:02:39] < chronomex> well then I guess food residue is too
[07:04:02] < millinao> in the ghetto...
[07:04:07] < millinao> IN THE GHETTO
[07:05:04] < al_b> a poor little baby child was born?
[07:05:21] < Netham45> somebody just got capped?
[07:05:33] < millinao> yes
[07:05:45] < millinao> I heard his mama cries
[07:06:16] < DarkAuron> I read netham's message and thought it was significant, so I tried to follow the conversation. then I saw that it was him who typed it, and then no longer cared.
[07:06:39]  * chronomex wonders how to vote "paint, solder and wires"
[07:06:50] < millinao> solder and wires
[07:06:52] < millinao> obviously
[07:07:01] < chronomex> yeah, I sort of wrote it as a progression
[07:07:07] < chronomex> progression of AWESOME
[07:07:21] < chronomex> wtf, am I turning into nikky?
[07:07:26] < DarkAuron> no
[07:07:26] <+Sir_Lewk> first post suxxors
[07:07:27] < millinao> yes
[07:07:35] < Netham45> DarkAuron, do you think I give a fuck?
[07:07:43] < Netham45> yes? then you're pathetic.
[07:07:53] < DarkAuron> no, I truely do not
[07:07:58] < Netham45> good.
[07:08:13] < DarkAuron> I just felt like stating my actions.
[07:08:27] < Netham45> well, noone cares.
[07:08:54] < DarkAuron> you killed the conversation in here.
[07:08:59]  * DarkAuron goes to do more productive things
[07:09:02] <+Sir_Lewk> wow, I forgot how epically awesome ticalc's message boards are
[07:09:08] <+Sir_Lewk> so damn usable
[07:09:19] < BrandonW_> Netham kills all conversations.
[07:09:27] < chronomex> Sir_Lewk: aren't they?
[07:09:56] <+Sir_Lewk> now I remember why I thought slashdots sucked when I first started going there
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[07:10:36] <+Sir_Lewk> 'sup ports-
[07:10:58] < chronomex> another part of the awesomeness being that you can actually get fp with something worth reading?
[07:11:14] < BrandonW_> I use to tape extra backup batteries to the back of my slidecases.
[07:11:28] < chronomex> not bad
[07:12:09] <+Sir_Lewk> nice
[07:13:07] < millinao> BrandonW, why the _?
[07:13:28] < BrandonW_> Got disconnected and didn't go back to the old name.
[07:13:30] -!- BrandonW_ is now known as BrandonW
[07:13:35] < millinao> oh
[07:13:47] < millinao> it was odd seeing your name in purple
[07:14:20] < Netham45> yea, the normal yellow is much better.
[07:14:43] < millinao> what determines the color?
[07:14:49] < Netham45> idk, something in xchat
[07:14:52] < chronomex> md5 hash or something
[07:15:00] < Netham45> "I sent them to him.
[07:15:00] < Netham45> I have an orange 84+SE slidecase and faceplate."
[07:15:07] < Netham45> I thought your ex gf stole it?
[07:15:50] < chronomex> no, just one of them iiuc
[07:16:03] < Netham45> BrandonW
[07:16:17] < BrandonW> ...
[07:16:27] < BrandonW> Not the orange DS slidecase, that doesn't even fit on an 84+SE, moron.
[07:17:04] <+Sir_Lewk> yeah, what were you thinking fool :P
[07:17:15] < BrandonW> I'm talking about the opaque orange slidecase and faceplate for the 84+SE you can buy off education.ti.com.
[07:17:33] < Netham45> oh
[07:17:47] < Netham45> well
[07:17:54] < Netham45> your gf still stole your ds slide case.
[07:18:04] < Netham45> so I was close
[07:18:15] <+Sir_Lewk> I would so choke a hoe...
[07:19:10] <+Sir_Lewk> I once met a really hot chick who got a 86 off ebay
[07:19:30] <+Sir_Lewk> I was amazed
[07:19:47] < millinao> did you ask her to marry you
[07:20:18] <+Sir_Lewk> I was going to
[07:20:44] < millinao> did she know programming
[07:20:44] <+Sir_Lewk> I only met her towards the end of a science Olympiad trip though :(
[07:20:52] <+Sir_Lewk> yeah, she did
[07:21:03] < millinao> oh god, I hate those kind of things
[07:21:18] < millinao> where you meet a really awesome girl and then JUST KIDDING
[07:21:22] <+Sir_Lewk> a gentoo chick actually, really seemed like a bright girl
[07:21:53] < chronomex> lol gentoo
[07:21:57] <+Sir_Lewk> yeah, I regret missing out on that opportunity 
[07:22:18] < chronomex> :)
[07:22:22] < chronomex> pity
[07:22:44] < millinao> just say "fuck it" and don't think about it
[07:22:56] <+Sir_Lewk> granted, I wouldn't use gentoo myself, but in hightschool where everyone else I know except a fellow nerd has never even heard of linux...
[07:22:57] < millinao> unless you like regretting
[07:23:18] < chronomex> anyone here have experience mailing calculators to joerg so he can post them on datamath?
[07:23:31] < chronomex> he wants to borrow my v200 and I just want to make sure it's legit
[07:25:10] < millinao> haha, angry video game nerd's newest video is hilarious
[07:25:20] <+Sir_Lewk> ok, I look at it this way, she was one girl in ~3.3 billion, I'm sure there are plenty more awesome chicks out there
[07:25:20] <+ports-> fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
[07:25:23] <+ports-> god damnit
[07:25:29] <+ports-> the paint on my bmw trunk roundel is gone
[07:25:32] < chronomex> Sir_Lewk: linky?
[07:25:35] <+ports-> it was there yesterday.
[07:25:47]  * chronomex googles
[07:25:54] <+Sir_Lewk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population?
[07:26:09] < chronomex> someone stole your paintz?
[07:26:14] <+Sir_Lewk> assuming 1:1 gender ratio and ignoring age...
[07:26:29] <+ports-> chronomex, looks like someone paint removered it.
[07:26:37] < chronomex> http://reviews.ebay.com/How-To-Replace-Your-BMW-Hood-Or-Trunk-Roundel_W0QQugidZ10000000001678217
[07:26:41] < chronomex> evil!
[07:26:53] <+ports-> i dont need to replace the roundel
[07:26:54] < chronomex> urm, Sir_Lewk I meant millinao
[07:27:01] < millinao> oh
[07:27:01] < millinao> http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30755.html
[07:27:08] <+ports-> i still have the disc. i can just put a new face on it
[07:27:10] <+Sir_Lewk> though so ;)
[07:27:19] < chronomex> thats good
[07:27:29] <+ports-> i bet it was one of the neighbor kids
[07:27:39] <+ports-> if i find out who it was im going to make the little shit disappear
[07:28:04] < chronomex> protip: manholes are easier to lift from above than below
[07:28:20] <+ports-> eh... wood chipper
[07:28:23] < chronomex> manhole covers, I mean
[07:28:30] < chronomex> wood chippers are too loud
[07:28:45] <+ports-> i live in the country
[07:28:54] < Netham45> blender+axe+plastic bags+shovel
[07:29:00] < chronomex> o ok
[07:29:20] <+ports-> i didnt smell any paint remover...
[07:29:24] <+ports-> ill know for sure tomorrow
[07:29:26]  * chronomex updates his ticalc.org profile
[07:29:31] < Netham45> chop 'em up into blender sized pieces, puree, put in bags, dig up dirt, and bury.
[07:29:37] < Netham45> beware of bones, though.
[07:29:40] < millinao> The graphics in some of the virtual boy games look good
[07:29:43] < Netham45> they might break the blender
[07:29:46] <+ports-> Netham45, puree then pour into the river
[07:29:54] < Netham45> nah
[07:30:07] < Netham45> burying around the country is funner
[07:30:09] < chronomex> !k Netham45 this is the line --> |  and here you are --> *
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[07:30:18] < Netham45> put a label on it, "Old Sparky" or something
[07:30:21] < Netham45> wtf
[07:30:29] < Netham45> why does autorejoin insist on being on?!
[07:30:35] < Netham45> I shut it off every day!
[07:30:39] < chronomex> haha
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[07:40:53] <+Nikky> !k Netham45 your client sucks
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[07:41:00] < Netham45> :(
[07:41:44] < Netham45> you're going to end up in a plastic bag, sparky.
[07:42:18] <+ports-> grr
[07:42:57] <@Andy_J> Netham45: The obvious solution is to use a client that doesn't suck.
[07:43:24] < Netham45> Andy_J, when I find one...
[07:43:38] <@Andy_J> There's always telnet.
[07:43:53] < Netham45> I always forget to pong
[07:43:56] <@Andy_J> Of course, irssi would make your life so much easier.
[07:43:58] <@Grue> Irssi 0.8.12 (20071006) - http://irssi.org/
[07:43:59] <@Grue> FTW
[07:44:02] <@Grue> That is all!
[07:44:05]  * Andy_J is sneaky ninja
[07:44:20] <+ports-> http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/unmentionables/call-me-panty-holds-that-vibrating-cellphone-close-right-where-you-need-it-nsfw-311806.php
[07:44:39] <@Andy_J> that "nsfw" is kind of hiding
[07:44:47] < chronomex> kinda
[07:45:24] <+ports-> im getting them for my girlfriend
[07:48:41] <@Grue> ports- is nsfw
[07:48:43] <@Grue> well
[07:48:45] <@Grue> not safe for anywhere
[07:48:54]  * Andy_J stabs homework
[07:49:18] <@Andy_J> so, for one of the mini-projects for UNIX Systems Programming I'm supposed to use sed to re-order apache's log file on the box he set up for this class
[07:49:21] <@Andy_J> the only problem:
[07:49:27] <@Andy_J> I CAN'T FREAKING READ THE LOG.
[07:49:33] < chronomex> wait, what
[07:49:45] < Netham45> NO PERMISSIONs?
[07:49:47] < Netham45> caps... >(
[07:49:49] < chronomex> how does he want it reordered? the fields, or records?
[07:49:54] <@Andy_J> It's rw-r----- root:adm
[07:50:02] <@Andy_J> and I'm ajj13:ajj13 (ajj13)
[07:50:06] < chronomex> I'd expect better from a teacher of sysadminning
[07:50:10] <@Andy_J> well
[07:50:15] < Netham45> hack root
[07:50:16] <@Andy_J> I think I'll blame it on logrotate
[07:50:18] < chronomex> ok
[07:50:28] < Netham45> then he'll be real impressed
[07:50:46] <@Andy_J> He probably set the permissions on the file at the time and forgot that logrotate would, um, not preserve those permissions when the log rotated
[07:51:15] < chronomex> yeah, he, um, forgot
[07:51:18] <@Andy_J> A good student would use another apache's log but fuck that :)
[07:51:31] <@Andy_J> sed is too annoying to use for stuff like that
[07:51:34] < chronomex> heh
[07:51:36] <@Andy_J> Too much escaping.
[07:51:47] <@Andy_J> I'd do it if we were allowed to use perl.
[07:52:12] < chronomex> escaping can be a fun and wholesome sport
[07:52:55] <@Andy_J> Not when your sed doesn't cooperate.
[07:53:20] <@Andy_J> sed "s|\\(\\[0-9\\]+\\. and so on and so forth ...
[07:53:43] <@Andy_J> Nevermind the \\\\[ to get a literal [ in the pattern
[07:54:12] <@Andy_J> wait
[07:54:21] <@Andy_J> meh
[07:54:44] <@Andy_J> if that was my problem
[07:54:50] <@Andy_J> I will kill sed with -9
[07:55:21] <@Andy_J> oh maybe because i was messing with bsd sed, too
[07:55:33] <@Andy_J> anyway, bed time
[07:55:36] < BrandonW> I hate you all.
[07:55:44] < chronomex> Andy_J: go to bsd :P
[07:55:50] < chronomex> BrandonW: what did we dooooo
[07:56:08] <@Andy_J> chronomex: well it has to run on a (kubuntu?) linux box for grading
[07:56:09] < chronomex> Andy_J: I tend to use , as a s/// delimiter
[07:56:40] < chronomex> I was being silly, I misread bed as bsd and made a lame joke out of it
[07:56:41] <@Andy_J> already got burned for that once this semester
[07:57:01] <@Grue> Pshaw
[07:57:05] <@Grue> Silly Computer Science types
[07:57:12]  * Andy_J stabby-stabs Grue 
[07:57:14] < Netham45> lucky
[07:57:16] <@Grue> Yay Radio/Television/Film :)
[07:57:21] < Netham45> my compsci class is java. ;.;
[07:57:23]  * Andy_J takes a torch and a match from his inventory
[07:57:30]  * Andy_J combines
[07:57:32] <@Grue> Hahaha
[07:57:33]  * Andy_J throws at Grue 
[07:57:33] <@Grue> Nice
[07:57:36]  * Netham45 runs
[07:57:42] <+Sir_Lewk> http://www.gametrailers.com/player/16889.html
[07:57:48] < BrandonW> Java sucks.
[07:57:52] <+Sir_Lewk> ten coolest video game characters
[07:57:56] <@Grue> "You are likely to be eaten by a grue / if this predicament seems particularly cruel / consider who's fault it could be / not a torch or a match in your niventory"
[07:57:56] <@Andy_J> Netham45: That's a good thing, actually.
[07:57:59] <@Grue> MC Frontalot FTW
[07:58:03] < Netham45> how?
[07:58:11] <+Sir_Lewk> I was like "this list sucks", then it got to number 1...
[07:58:17] <@Andy_J> Knowing you, you'd blow your leg off in any other language.
[07:58:45] < Netham45> Andy_J, no.
[07:58:52] < Netham45> I am rather proficent at Visual Basic.
[07:58:59] <@Andy_J> And that's better than Java how?
[07:59:02] <@Grue> LOLOL
[07:59:04] <@Andy_J> I have one thing to say:
[07:59:04] <@Grue> Visual Basic
[07:59:07] <@Andy_J> On Error Resume Next
[07:59:09] <@Andy_J> That is all.
[07:59:13] <@Grue> Haha
[07:59:13] < Netham45> HAHAHAHA
[07:59:15]  * Grue 101s Andy_J 
[07:59:28] <+Sir_Lewk> Duke Nukem FTW
[07:59:35] < Netham45> I usually just comment out the offending line
[07:59:36] < chronomex> try { /* life */ } catch (Exception e) {}
[07:59:47] <@Andy_J> That statement, and that statement alone, disqualifies Visual Basic from being considered a real language.
[08:00:02] < Netham45> lol
[08:00:09] < chronomex> VB has that still?
[08:00:18] < Netham45> well, I learned VB6, too...
[08:00:23] <@Andy_J> I believe it still supports On Error X Y syntax
[08:00:35] < Netham45> .net is annoying
[08:00:38] <@Andy_J> I does have Try / Catch / End Try now
[08:00:40] <@Andy_J> *It
[08:00:50] < chronomex> ooh, it's now on par with TI-basic
[08:01:05] < Netham45> ti-basic has try/catch/end try?
[08:01:12] < chronomex> try/else/endtry
[08:01:15] <@Andy_J> The one thing I do like about C# (I despise everything else) is the fact that you can just catch (Exception) without having to give it a name if you don't refer to it.
[08:01:17] < chronomex> on 68k at least
[08:01:24] < Netham45> oh
[08:01:33] < Netham45> I havn't messed with my 89 much.
[08:02:58] <@Andy_J> Granted, you probably SHOULD check something in the exception's details at some point.
[08:03:25] < chronomex> bah, exceptions are for pussies
[08:03:34] <@Andy_J> Though I guess something like a /0 exception would be self-explanatory
[08:04:02] <@Andy_J> then again if you have more than one integer division with a variable denominator in your code, you should still check it to log it ...
[08:05:20] < chronomex> wait, when did facebook take the punctuation out of everyone else's phone numbers?
[08:05:26] <@Andy_J> catch (Exception e) {} is almost as bad as On Error Resume Next if it stays there for more than half an hour
[08:06:28] < chronomex> yes, so?
[08:06:57] < Netham45> Andy_J, if you have a known situation where an exception is thrown, and you know that that exception is worthless, then should it really matter if you do anything with it?
[08:09:29] <@Andy_J> At least put catch (Exception e) { /* this exception is pointless and will never happen and this catch is just to make the compiler STFU */ }
[08:09:33] <@Andy_J> But not just {}
[08:10:30] < chronomex> good point
[08:11:05] <@Andy_J> {} dpesm
[08:11:06] <@Andy_J> ...
[08:11:19] <@Andy_J> {} doesn't acknowledge that it's SUPPOSED to be empty while a comment does :)
[08:11:31] <@Andy_J> It's kind of like "This page intentionally left blank."
[08:11:39] < chronomex> which is false
[08:11:41] <@Andy_J> "This catch block intentionally left blank."
[08:12:13] <@Andy_J> Which is less false because it compiles to be a blank block of object code.
[08:12:34] < chronomex> right
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[08:29:56] <+ports-> haha
[08:29:59] <+ports-> fucking awesome
[08:30:06] <+ports-> my dish decoder box... it gets playboy 
[08:30:08] <+ports-> haha
[08:30:17] <+ports-> but more importantly.. i get Showtime!
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[08:38:46]  * tr1p1ea unknowingly inhaled phosphine at work today :\
[08:39:31] < tr1p1ea> lucky someone noticed it, since it can kill you pretty easy
[08:41:44] < Netham45>        QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ
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[08:46:21] <+simonzack> how did you get phosphine?
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[09:22:52] < DarkAuron> tr1p
[09:22:57] < DarkAuron> you're going to die at one of your jobs
[09:23:03] <+Sir_Lewk> current caffiene level: ~150 mg
[09:23:08] < DarkAuron> you get too many injuries :P
[09:23:19] < DarkAuron> or near-injuies
[09:23:20] <+Sir_Lewk> maximum caffeine level: ~9750 mg
[09:23:21] < DarkAuron> injuries*
[09:24:04] <+Sir_Lewk> I'm only at 1.5% capacity!!!!!
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[09:25:06] <+Sir_Lewk> although one could say that productivity starts  to decrease once you reach mild caffeine intoxication at 250 mg or so...
[09:26:51] <+Sir_Lewk> this calls for experimentation!
[09:27:02] <+Sir_Lewk> SCIENCE TIME!!!
[09:27:14]  * Sir_Lewk guzzles more orange soda
[09:28:04] <+Sir_Lewk> ~200 mg...
[09:28:35] <+Sir_Lewk> 2.05 %
[09:29:42] < DarkAuron> heh
[09:29:54] < DarkAuron> I've been known to drink about 800mg of caffeine per day
[09:30:17] <+Sir_Lewk> oh don't worry, I just started a few minutes ago ;)
[09:30:58] <+Sir_Lewk> I once did 2400 mg in one night, but that was accidental (and rather dangerous...)
[09:31:25] < DarkAuron> "the boy himself could be considered accountable for his choice to consume 8 cans of red bull, but i wonder how a 15 year old acquired close to $20.00 to waste on energy drinks."
[09:31:32] < DarkAuron> uh.. $20 is nothing O.o
[09:31:49] <+Sir_Lewk> yeah...
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[09:31:54] <@efneTI86> [Tari__] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[09:32:01] < DarkAuron> that person is dumb, eh
[09:32:05] <+Sir_Lewk> seeing as 16 year olds have to pay for gas...
[09:32:16] < chronomex> not if they don't drive/
[09:33:02] <+Sir_Lewk> true
[09:33:07] <+Sir_Lewk> I still don't
[09:34:09]  * Sir_Lewk is 18
[09:34:29] < chronomex> I'm 20 and I never learned
[09:34:35]  * chronomex wins
[09:34:35] < DarkAuron> :o
[09:34:42] < chronomex> ... for now
[09:34:55] <+Sir_Lewk> my parents made me get my license a week before I left for college
[09:35:02] < seidior> I stopped heavy caffeine intake when 600mg didn't have an effect on me
[09:35:25] <+Sir_Lewk> and seeing as I go to school in Philly, I don't intend on using it at least for the next 5 years ;)
[09:35:39] < DarkAuron> well I should give another attempt at sleeping again
[09:35:44] < seidior> when taking 1500mg to stay awake for two days nonstop, 1000mg for an earlier 62-hour jaunt on four-hours sleep
[09:35:57] < seidior> you get used to the stuff
[09:36:12] < seidior> and it's very destructive
[09:36:16] <+Sir_Lewk> yeah, but EVERYTHING else is out to get you
[09:36:59] <+Sir_Lewk> at 2400 mg in one shot I became a paranoid schizophrenic for the next 72 hours...
[09:37:12] < DarkAuron> I either sleep now or get a 32oz can of monster 6 hours from now
[09:37:32] < chronomex> Im going for "sleep now
[09:37:37] < DarkAuron> I slept from 6pm to 10pm last night, so I'm pretty awake at 3:38am :|
[09:37:43] <+Sir_Lewk> or get some COCAINE!!!
[09:37:53] < seidior> Sir_Lewk: if you're not used to it, 2400mg is terrible. your body will hate you for the next week
[09:38:01] <+Sir_Lewk> yup
[09:38:18] < DarkAuron> how did you get 2.4g in one shot?
[09:38:23] <+Sir_Lewk> I couldn't touch caffeine at all for a month without getting migraines
[09:38:35] <+Sir_Lewk> I made some instant coffee
[09:38:52] <+Sir_Lewk> misread 1 teaspoon as 1 tablespoon
[09:39:02] <+Sir_Lewk> put in 3 tablespoons
[09:39:10] <+Sir_Lewk> had two cups of that
[09:39:56] <+Sir_Lewk> with ~.5 cups of sugar per cup I didn't really notice I messed up
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[09:40:24] < DarkAuron> lol
[09:40:40] < DarkAuron> anyhow, ciao
[09:40:45] <+Sir_Lewk> later
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[10:03:00] <@efneTI86> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[10:44:59] <@efneTI86> [Leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
[10:50:32] < al_b> I discovered that V (an energy drink) has ana amazing sideeffect
[10:50:44] < al_b> if I have 2 cans, I can drink as much as I want, and I don't feel drunk
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[11:29:33] <@efneTI86> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing?
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[11:51:05] <+Sir_Lewk> al_b, you can do similar things with cocaine ;)
[11:53:48] <+Sir_Lewk> well, two cans is apparently ~155 mg of caffeine, plus the other stuff
[11:54:13] <+Sir_Lewk> I can see how it might have such an effect
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[12:47:07] <@efneTI86> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[13:34:10] < Netham45> 1Q+
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[14:45:34] <@efneTI86> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[15:05:20] < tr1p1ea> i guess its not normal to cough up blood in the bathroom?
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[15:08:26] <@efneTI86> [Tari__] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[15:09:07] < tr1p1ea> that deadly chemical i inhaled today must have done wonders
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[15:17:16] <@Andy_J> Protip: Don't do that.
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[15:47:55] <@efneTI86> [Spengo] If at first you don't succeed, you fail.
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[16:14:14] <+HQAT> Hmm anyone online?
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[16:28:47] <+HQAT> Hmm... I'm having a design issue about the CAS I'm currently developing for TI83/84...
[16:28:49] <+HQAT> I'm not sure what would be the best solution...
[16:28:55] <+HQAT> Basicly the program has to use a set of rules and apply them on a binary node tree...
[16:29:02] <+HQAT> 1. Now I could write code to apply each of these rules (The easy solution)
[16:29:09] <+HQAT> 2. Or I could write some sort of expression parser that reads all rules from a lookup table and then applies them (The harder solution)
[16:29:16] <+HQAT> Solution 1 might end up using a lot more code then 2... and I would have to write code for each new rule I'd like to add... However 2 is going to require a very complex system to code...
[16:29:45] <+HQAT> Any thoughts on this would be appreciated... :P
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[16:55:50] <+bsparks> I ought to get one of those step counters
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[17:01:21] <@Andy_J> pedometer?
[17:01:31] <+bsparks> yeah
[17:01:49] <+bsparks> the pedo meter
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[17:02:46] <@Andy_J> when you say it like that ...
[17:02:48] <+HQAT> Some time ago mcdonalds gave those things away with their happy meals..
[17:03:04] < DarkAuron> pogs!
[17:04:10] <+bsparks> Andy_J, the pedo meter measures the steps taken
[17:04:19] <+bsparks> now THAT sounds just wrong
[17:04:19] <@Andy_J> I know what a pedometer does.
[17:04:27] <@Andy_J> But a pedo meter sounds ... wrong.
[17:04:40] <+bsparks> :P
[17:04:48] <@Andy_J> more like jedometer amirite?
[17:04:54] <+bsparks> lol
[17:05:13] < DarkAuron> silly andy
[17:09:50] <+incubus[]> why the hell do we call it a pedophile anyways
[17:10:39] <+incubus[]> ok pedo is a reference to child...
[17:11:00] <+incubus[]> Oh, a Pedometer actually has the root, 'pedi'
[17:11:24] <+incubus[]> Pedi = Foot,   Pedo = Child (or childlike or in reference to something childish)
[17:12:55] <+bsparks> pedimeter?
[17:17:50] <+incubus[]> ya
[17:17:56] <+incubus[]> I guess pedometer is more fluid
[17:18:20] <+incubus[]> and if you notice,  Pedimeter starts to sound like Pedophile, just in the 'Pedi' part
[17:19:00] < Barrett> pedi == child
[17:19:05] < Barrett> meter == measures
[17:19:19] < Barrett> oh nevermind
[17:19:21] < Barrett> sorry ignore that
[17:19:40] < Barrett> I'm tired.
[17:20:23]  * Barrett shoots himself
[17:20:44] < mokomull> Barrett: ped = foot ><
[17:21:05] < Barrett> pedo*
[17:21:10] < Barrett> for my first line
[17:21:41] < Barrett> child measurer
[17:22:17] <+incubus[]> pedi = foot
[17:23:48] <+incubus[]> I think ped can be used as a variant, but it kind of breaks the rule when you use the word pedagogic or pedalfer
[17:25:09] < Barrett> so had I not screwed up my "joke" (I'm still tired and I will realize later on that it wouldn't have been the least bit funny even if I had pulled it off), it would have given something to the effect of "you're buying a child-measurer"
[17:25:31] <+bsparks> I'm good
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[18:03:57] <+bsparks> http://zarawesome.googlepages.com/ctrlaltxkcd.png
[18:05:33] <@Andy_J> Spengo: http://xkcd.com/
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[18:13:37] < DarkAuron> who copied who?
[18:13:58] <+bsparks> DarkAuron, ?
[18:14:01] < chronomex> who copied whom
[18:14:05] < DarkAuron> sorry
[18:14:12] < DarkAuron> xkcd or ctrlaltdel?
[18:14:25] <+bsparks> it's someone taking a frame of cad, and adding the xkcd comic text to it
[18:14:37] < DarkAuron> oh
[18:14:37] <+bsparks> homebrewed comic >.>
[18:14:49] < DarkAuron> I see the text is exactly the same now
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[18:57:33] <+patz2009_> weeeee for standardized testing
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[19:36:53] <@efneTI86> [Captain_A] Censored
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[19:50:54] < Spengolo> muhuhahaha
[19:51:04] < Spengolo> operation: destroy CCAA is underway
[19:58:17] < i_c-Y> CCAA?
[20:01:56] < Spengolo> cisco clean access agent
[20:02:03] < Spengolo> I found every email in the school
[20:02:21] < Spengolo> I'm gonna anonymously email my bypass script to every person in the school
[20:02:28] < Spengolo> if THAT doesn't get attention, nothing will <_<
[20:07:22] < Spengolo> well, I will soon have almost every email in the school to be precise
[20:09:03] <@Andy_J> 13:06:17 <@Andy_J> Spengo: http://xkcd.com/
[20:09:44] < Spengolo> nooooooooooooo
[20:10:02] <@E-J> Andy_J: apparently i'm not the only one who thought immediately Spengo when i saw that
[20:10:24] < Spengolo> lol
[20:10:36] < Spengolo> anyways, bbl class
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[20:10:47] <@Andy_J> E-J: :)
[20:14:14] <@Andy_J> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4RRi_ntQc8
[20:14:16] <@Andy_J> ecks dee
[20:14:53] <@E-J> in finnish that would be äx dee
[20:15:03] <@E-J> or äks dee
[20:17:16] <@E-J> but now when i looked that video, it really is "äksdee"
[20:21:28] <@E-J> vote that man, and world would be better place
[20:23:46] <@E-J> or something
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[20:43:11] <+HQAT> Does anyone know if there is a token for the integration symbol on the ti83/84? I searched the entire .inc file and cant seem to find the damn thing...
[20:43:34] <@Andy_J> is it even in the font?
[20:43:45] <+HQAT> Yeah it is...
[20:44:03] <@Andy_J> Hmm.
[20:44:36] <@benryves> There might not be one :\
[20:44:50] <@Andy_J> yeah I'm only seeeing the E-J uate for the font
[20:44:57] <@Andy_J> ...
[20:44:58] <+HQAT> That would suck... 
[20:45:01] <@Andy_J> fucking lag
[20:45:09] <@Andy_J> *yeah I'm only seeing the equate for the font
[20:45:10] <@E-J> Andy_J: too much tabbing?-)
[20:45:17] <@Andy_J> E-J: no, too much ssh lag
[20:45:23] <@E-J> ach
[20:45:29] <@Andy_J> didn't notice I hit tab instead of q
[20:45:37] <@E-J> HQAT: where do you need it?
[20:45:58] <@Andy_J> HQAT: It doesn't seem there is one, now
[20:45:59] <+HQAT> Umm I need it for the CAS I'm making...
[20:46:01] <@Andy_J> *no
[20:46:03] <@Andy_J> gah
[20:46:08] <@E-J> on ti-86 you can make numeral integral
[20:46:12] <@E-J> ah
[20:46:43] <@benryves> There's a dollar sign in the font as well, but that's not even listed in the manual :\
[20:47:08] < i_c-Y> you should upgrade to the ti-89 titanium. 
[20:47:32] <@Andy_J> is it used for anything?
[20:47:37] <+HQAT> Well they are not allowed for the exams
[20:47:49] < Randomist> I wonder if I could get a nice stereo for three hundred dollars are less that can handle being played at really loud volumes.
[20:48:09]  * benryves wonders which bright spark decided to map the shape buttons on the PlayStation controller to the POV hat.
[20:48:15] < Randomist> Mine can handle it for a while, but then after a while, it will overheat, and click off and not let me turn it back on until it cools down.
[20:48:17] <@benryves> Randomist: Are less? Or less?
[20:48:23] < Randomist> At most.
[20:48:55] <@benryves> Just having difficulty parsing your initial statement, that's all.
[20:49:01] < i_c-Y> why are you playing stuff at really loud volumes?
[20:49:09] <@E-J> benryves: have you seen/hear finnish eurovision song for this year?
[20:49:20] <@benryves> E-J: No.
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[20:50:13] < Randomist> 'Cause I happen to like what I'm listening to and because no one is home from when I get in to about four to six.
[20:50:15] <@E-J> benryves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpMzLJ5Ws6g
[20:50:22]  * benryves has never watched Eurovision, or anything relating to it, and doesn't intend to start anytime soon.
[20:50:39] <@Andy_J> Want me to just puncture your eardrums now and get it over with?
[20:50:42] <@E-J> it's manowar in finnish
[20:50:52] <@E-J> finnish manowar*
[20:51:01] <@benryves> Randomist: Get a half decent pair of headphones (and possibly a headphone amp). Problem solved. :)
[20:51:31] <+HQAT> Hmm I think I'll just use the fnInt( token...
[20:52:46] <@Andy_J> you could use a token that's never used for anything that draws as a font character that's never used for anything and use a font hook
[20:52:50] < Randomist> I already got a nice pair of headphones.  But headphones are no fun.  :P
[20:53:53] <@benryves> Randomist: The ability to blow your own eardrums out and not pester anyone else around you, sounds like a win-win situation to me.
[20:53:57] < Randomist> I like the bass that makes you feel like your heart is about to stop.
[20:53:59] <+HQAT> Hmm yeah that would be a great idea... I'll keep that in mind... I'm first gonna do the program logic though... before this kind of fancy stuff :D
[20:54:47]  * Andy_J needs java api source code to check how ArrayList does something...
[20:54:58] <@benryves> Randomist: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3614180.stm ?
[20:55:05] < i_c-Y> what is that something, Andy_J ?
[20:55:21] <@Andy_J> i_c-Y: if it uses .equals when seeing if it .contains something
[20:55:28] <@Andy_J> I don't remember if it uses .equals or .compareTo
[20:55:38] <+Nikky> hai Andy
[20:55:51] <@Andy_J> ah, found it
[20:55:53] <@Andy_J> <3 locate
[20:56:04] < i_c-Y> Andy_J: yes.
[20:56:19] < i_c-Y> for .equals
[20:56:33] <@Andy_J> ok good
[20:56:42] <@Andy_J> I know something out there uses compareTo when it doesn't seem like it should
[20:56:46] < i_c-Y> .contains(o) is pretty much (o==null? e==null : o.equals(e))
[20:56:53] < i_c-Y> or something like that
[20:57:08] < i_c-Y> go on the java api page and look at List. its the same thing for Arraylist.
[20:58:01] < i_c-Y> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/util/List.html - its old but shouldnt have changed in latest java
[20:58:05] <@Andy_J> yeah I found it
[20:58:08] < Randomist> How many decibels does it take before that happens?
[20:58:19] <+Nikky> ?
[20:58:24] < i_c-Y> depends on what youre referencing to, Randomist 
[20:58:26] <@Andy_J> http://rafb.net/p/fEpA6e23.html
[20:58:32] < i_c-Y> Andy_J: it doesnt quite make sense to do it with compareto
[20:58:46] <@Andy_J> curious that doesn't use generics
[20:58:48] < i_c-Y> or you can look at that.
[20:58:56] <@Andy_J> no, it doesn't, but I know something uses compareTo that doesn't make sense to
[20:59:05] < i_c-Y> which is
[20:59:05] <@E-J> benryves: you won't watch it even if pink floyd takes a part?-)
[20:59:43] <@Andy_J> so I didn't waste half an hour earlier making .equals for all these classes I have :
[20:59:46] <@Andy_J> :)
[21:00:03] <@benryves> E-J: Even then :P
[21:00:09] < Randomist> My music's ranges somewhere between 110 and 130 decibels from where I'm sitting... don't think it's enough to do that to me.
[21:00:13] < Randomist> * music
[21:00:26] < i_c-Y> theres a good chance that its something residual from before generics were introduced, Andy_J 
[21:01:05] < i_c-Y> id imagine its a common scenario - in matlab 7, theres a bunch of stuff that isnt vectorized, so i imagine they havent looked at it for years
[21:02:44] < i_c-Y> either way, its not necessariy to go full out generics on that, andy
[21:03:14] <@Andy_J> well, I'm genericsing it because it's an arraylist of channels ... or nicks ... or bans, etc.
[21:03:23] <@Andy_J> you wouldn't put a nick into the list of channels.
[21:03:40] < Randomist> Uh-oh, I smell something burning.  Away I go.
[21:03:42] <+HQAT> Umm is it true that if you do LD HL, (address) and then LD (address), HL then the bytes get switched?
[21:03:52] <@benryves> No, it's not HQAT.
[21:04:06] < i_c-Y> hm , benryves , you should go assert hte superiority of c# because it does that by default or something ;)
[21:04:07] <@Andy_J> why would one be big-endian and the other little-endian?
[21:04:09] <+HQAT> then I'm just to tired to code... :P let me check again
[21:04:09] <@benryves> Though the Z80 is little endian, so address+0 will contain L and address+1 will contain H?
[21:04:30] <@benryves> i_c-Y: ?
[21:04:53] < i_c-Y> benryves: doesnt c# have its arraylist genericized?
[21:05:09] <@Andy_J> java 1.5 does as well
[21:05:16] <@Andy_J> in fact it spews warnings if you don't use generics
[21:05:16] <@benryves> i_c-Y: No, the ArrayList is old and horrible (and just stores object). List<T> is the generic equivalent.
[21:05:30] < i_c-Y> ah.
[21:05:38] <@Andy_J> benryves: what if I want a list that I know is backed by an array?
[21:05:42] < i_c-Y> i dont use c# enough to care :)
[21:06:04] <@benryves> Andy_J: List<T> takes an IEnumerable<T> in its constructor (so can be passed an array) and has a .ToArray() method.
[21:06:52] <@Andy_J> Meh, I'll take my List<Channel> channels = Collections.concurrentList(new ArrayList<Channel>(20)) :p
[21:07:07] <@Andy_J> er
[21:07:12] <@Andy_J> *synchronizedList
[21:07:25] <@Andy_J> Knew that didn't look right.
[21:07:43] < i_c-Y> what kind of sick thing are you doing to IRC with Java?
[21:07:54] <+HQAT> Ok I found my mistake... I really hate little endian... seems so pointless...
[21:08:20] <@Andy_J> Highly customized IRC services for a small dedicated-purpose server with tight ties to a website and client application.
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[21:09:03] <@benryves> HQAT: On the contrary, I generally find it much more sensible, especially when dealing with truncating (or extending) variables. :)
[21:12:00] <+HQAT> Well I guess I'm just used to writing the most significand thing first.. I guess I'll jsut have to get used to it...
[21:12:25] <+HQAT> All modern processors are big endian right?
[21:12:45] <@benryves> Nope, any x86 CPU is little-endian.
[21:13:03] <@benryves> (Little endian is sometimes referred to as "Intel byte order") :)
[21:13:22] < i_c-Y> there are intels with biendians though
[21:13:27] < i_c-Y> ie IA64 can do both little and big
[21:14:12] < i_c-Y> but :)
[21:14:39] <@benryves> Intel byte order for historical reasons, then (as opposed to Motorola byte order, ie big-endian).
[21:15:19] <+HQAT> Hmm ok... btw If I wanted to optimise my app... could I just disable interupts and use all the shadow registers? That could speed some things up alot... (If the EXX doesn't take to long?)
[21:15:39] <@benryves> EXX is very fast, by design (4cc, IIRC?)
[21:15:51] < i_c-Y> 6502, z80, x86 are the ones i can call off the top of myhead as little endian, big for 6800/68000, old PPC and sparc's
[21:16:08] < i_c-Y> and ARM, PPC, Sparcs, IA64, and PA-RISC as biendian
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[21:26:28] < Leofox> i_c-Y, how can something be biendian?
[21:27:08] <@benryves> Supporting both big and little endian, Leofox.
[21:27:12] < i_c-Y> its able to do either.
[21:27:37] < Leofox> how does it know in what format something is
[21:27:52] <@benryves> You pick a mode and stick with it. :)
[21:28:03] < i_c-Y> not necessarily, benryves 
[21:28:32] < Leofox> little endian is confusing at first but it makes a lot of things easier
[21:28:36] < i_c-Y> PPC for example does some odd stuff when dealing with little endian mode
[21:28:47] < i_c-Y> i think its ppc that does it anyway
[21:29:04] < i_c-Y> but you have to make sure you tell it to read out as little endian or something or it defaults to big endian
[21:29:27] < i_c-Y> might be PA-RISC that im thinking of though.
[21:29:35] < i_c-Y> but someone does that.
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[21:32:21] < i_c-Y> hm . i wonder if i still have the PPC win nt disk somewhere
[21:32:44] < chronomex> I can't decide if that's awesome or evil and sad
[21:32:56] < i_c-Y> im awesome, so it must be awesome
[21:34:44] < chronomex> okay
[21:35:54] < i_c-Y> i dont see a particular reason to go with one endian over another. but thats just me.
[21:39:51] < chronomex> I prefer bigendian for no good reason
[21:42:43] <+Tari_> http://gizmodo.com/363154/audiophile-deathmatch-monster-cables-vs-a-coat-hanger
[21:42:48] <+Tari_> fail for Monster cables
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[21:50:54] < chronomex> Tari_: lol
[21:51:05] < chronomex> I have a friend who uses cat5 for speaker cable
[21:52:06] <+patz2009> that's pro
[21:53:11] < mokomull> chronomex: I have no clue how you found me on Facebook lol :)
[21:53:26] < chronomex> :) I'm a pro
[21:53:43] < mokomull> after a brief "who the fuck...." :P
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[21:54:20]  * chronomex giggles
[21:55:27] <@E-J> how many michael mullinses can there be? (or was it michael)
[21:56:05] < chronomex> I actually shoved mokomull@gmail.com into the search box
[21:56:09] < mokomull> haha
[21:56:13] < chronomex> that works even if you can't see the profile
[21:56:18] < mokomull> Don't know how you got my email address, but works :P
[21:56:27]  * chronomex smiles
[21:56:34] < i_c-Y> haha
[21:56:37] < mokomull> You can always see a person's name and profile pic, regardless of setting, I think.
[21:56:40] < i_c-Y> good luck finding me on facebook :)
[21:56:45] < i_c-Y> mainly because im not on facebook
[21:56:47] < mokomull> Not to say my email address is a big STRETCH or anything 
[21:56:59] < chronomex> right
[21:57:07] < mokomull> my profile pic happens to be a 1x1 white dot.
[21:57:25] < chronomex> hehe
[21:57:31] < mokomull> so, flight plans from MSFT, yay :)
[21:57:38] < chronomex> sweet
[21:59:20] < mokomull> damned time changes
[21:59:21] < mokomull> :)
[21:59:38] < mokomull> I'll leave from Seattle at 12:30 and get to Houston at 6:45... but it's only a 4hr flight P
[22:00:03] < chronomex> 1230 am?
[22:00:22] < mokomull> PM
[22:00:26] < mokomull> on Saturday afternoon.
[22:00:29] < chronomex> oh
[22:00:31] < chronomex> semi-lame
[22:00:38] < chronomex> I'm going to get food now
[22:00:43] < mokomull> meh, I could have gone later, but I really don't want to get into Houston TOO late
[22:00:45] < chronomex> cya for now
[22:00:48] < chronomex> yeah
[22:00:49] < chronomex> k
[22:01:13] <@E-J> 4hr is nothing compared to 18hr
[22:02:15] <@E-J> actually it will be 1.5hr + 18hr + 9hr
[22:02:48] <@E-J> helsinki-frankfurt-singapore-sydney on last days of september
[22:02:57] < mokomull> wow
[22:04:54] <@E-J> but last trip will be with airbus a380 <3
[22:05:09] < mokomull> but you're not getting it paid for by Microsoft, are you? :)
[22:05:33] <@E-J> nope, i have to pay it myself :(
[22:06:01] <@E-J> 1600 euros are flights to australia and back
[22:06:15] <+Tari_> last time I flew anywhere, it was frankfurt-chicago on Air India
[22:06:25] <+Tari_> _that_ was interesting
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[22:06:45] <@E-J> i bet
[22:07:05] <@E-J> air india sounds like almost as reliable as aeroflot
[22:07:10] <@E-J> mokomull: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A380
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[22:10:16] <@E-J> (for notice aeroflot is russian company founded in soviet union)
[22:15:06] <+Sir_Lewk> perfectly trustable!
[22:15:40] < i_c-Y> from russia with love, ya know?
[22:16:33] < Netham45> HEIL STALIN
[22:18:31] <+Tari> scissors beats paper
[22:19:20] <+patz2009> Tari: ORLY?
[22:20:31]  * benryves sits patz2009 down in front of Alex Kidd
[22:21:17]  * Netham45 molests patz2009 
[22:21:37] <+patz2009> =[
[22:22:21] <+Sir_Lewk> don't be haten on patz2009 :(
[22:22:40]  * Netham45 gives patz2009 a flabby lap dance
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[22:24:37] < Netham45> jiggle jiggle
[22:24:47] <+patz2009> =/
[22:25:08] < Netham45> *slap* jiggle
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[22:26:21] < i_c-Y> benryves is a segafanboy :-/
[22:27:24] <@benryves> i_c-Y: At least you can now win the janken matches with your new-found knowledge. :)
[22:27:41] < i_c-Y> haha
[22:27:45] < i_c-Y> i knew you were one
[22:27:55] < i_c-Y> you are a fan of all things that sink, benryves 
[22:28:09] < i_c-Y> c#, sega, ti-83's, the titanic...
[22:28:39] < i_c-Y> and who the hell calls rock paper scissors janken anymore >:(
[22:29:00] <@benryves> *shrugs* That's what they're referred to in the game.
[22:29:39] < i_c-Y> nevermind that Alex Kidd was a weaboo in games like "ALEX KIDD IN SHINOBI WORLD/LAND/SOMETHING"
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[22:31:19] <@benryves> Skull-defecating zombies!
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[22:35:29] < Netham45> http://www.ticalc.org/cgi-bin/acct-view.cgi?userid=2082
[22:37:04] <@benryves> Hilarious.
[22:38:09] < Leofox> "Honestly, what do you humans think has been causing all this chaos and havoc since the beginning of time?"
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[22:38:19] < Leofox> -"I dunno, black people? (yeah black people!)"
[22:38:27] < Leofox> "No! XENU!"
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[22:38:45] <+patz2009> No, computer programmers.
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[22:39:43] < chronomex> uhh surh
[22:39:45] < chronomex> sure
[22:39:50] < Leofox> i dont think they have been exisint since the beginning of time
[22:39:58] < Leofox> or at least since the beginning of manhood
[22:40:00] < chronomex> maybe they have
[22:40:03] < Leofox> mankind
[22:40:05] < Leofox> w/e
[22:40:05] < chronomex> lol manhood
[22:40:19] < Leofox> i realised the awkwardness of that word too..
[22:40:25] < Leofox> but only after hitting Return
[22:40:28] < chronomex> :)
[22:40:31]  * chronomex hugs Leofox
[22:40:50] < Leofox> i'm pretty sure black people have existed since the beginning of mankind
[22:41:05] < Leofox> and according to CoS, Xenu too
[22:41:20] <+patz2009> http://jokes.christiansunite.com/Internet/Chaos.shtml
[22:42:03] < Leofox> omg
[22:42:25] < Leofox> the universe has to be created by a programmer :P
[22:42:44] < Leofox> it's chaotic and wasteful
[22:42:53] < Leofox> but it works so dont touch it
[22:43:43] <@benryves> Must be a C++ programmer, then, all that "undefined behaviour". :)
[22:44:12] < V200_> does anyone know of a program that identifies as a "webcam" but the "video" is just a section of your screen?  (if, for example, i wanted to do a powerpoint presentation over iChat or something)
[22:44:24] < Leofox> try {create()}catch(BigBangException e) {/*TODO*/}
[22:44:44] < Leofox> oshi-
[22:44:50] < chronomex> haha
[22:45:06] <@benryves> I assume from that you forgot to mention the all-important "must run on Mac OS"?
[22:45:15] < V200_> benryves: not necessarily
[22:45:22] < V200_> if you can point to something else, it still might be useful
[22:46:09] <@Andy_J> webcam max (not free) for windows, camtwist (free) for OS X
[22:46:33] <@Andy_J> they both also let you do PiP and other effects and such
[22:46:43] <@Andy_J> but camtwist wins because it's free
[22:47:38] <@benryves> There's also the Heath-Robinson solution; a video capture cable or card hooked up to your video card's TV out.
[22:47:54] <@Andy_J> You actually have to do that for DirectX or OpenGL programs
[22:47:57] <@Andy_J> And I have done it before.
[22:48:06] <@Andy_J> My video card is actually currently hooked up to do so.
[22:48:24] <@benryves> Heh, you can hook (in software) Direct3D and OpenGL, hence software like Fraps.
[22:48:54] <@Andy_J> fraps is not fun at all
[22:49:51] <@benryves> In Vista you might be able to do something clever with its thumbnailing API (assuming windowed apps).
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[22:51:59] <+TD-Linux> hmm
[22:52:14] <+TD-Linux> they found out that the body in the house that blew up was already dead
[22:52:18] <+TD-Linux> before the house exploded
[22:52:32] <+ports-> what house
[22:53:56] < chronomex> !seem michael_v
[22:54:08] < chronomex> !seen michael_v
[22:54:09] <@efneTI86> Michael_V (michael@ip70-162-254-137.ph.ph.cox.net) was last seen quitting from #tcpa 16 days, 16 hours, 57 minutes ago stating ().
[22:54:10] < chronomex> fail
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[22:55:08] <@efneTI86> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[22:56:37] < V200_> ahhh... Andy_J ... that looked really good until I read this line:
[22:56:38] < V200_> "PLEASE NOTE: CamTwist does NOT work with iChat."
[22:56:56] <@Andy_J> that's what ichat has screen sharing >.>
[22:56:58] <@Andy_J> *why
[22:57:07] < V200_> yes, it has screen sharing, but only with one other person
[22:57:26] <@Andy_J> Then use ustream or something
[22:57:29] < V200_> you can't do a full on meeting
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[23:14:13] <+Sir_Lewk> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7304299348008029594&hl=en
[23:14:30] <+Sir_Lewk> just because I know so many of you will hate me for that :D
[23:14:45] < V200_> what is it? is it sfw?
[23:15:14] <+Sir_Lewk> not sure
[23:15:31] <+Sir_Lewk> just found that video on stumble
[23:20:02] <+Sir_Lewk> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1922482391769024474
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[23:49:08] < Randomist> Would a good way to figure out if a semicolon should go somewhere be to replace it with a conjunction?
[23:50:46] <@benryves> I don't think you can say "should"; I'd just go for whatever feels intuitive.
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[23:58:08] < BrandonW> That would require him having intuition.
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