--- Log opened Sun Mar 02 00:00:59 2008
[00:04:22] < Leofox> you go to one of them schools where you sleep?
[00:05:29] <@E-J> Leofox: if you watch eurovision (i doubt), finland's candidate this year will be: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpMzLJ5Ws6g
[00:05:45] <@E-J> better than lordi but still litte ...
[00:06:20] <+Nikky> Barrett sucks
[00:06:28] < Barrett> what?
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[00:07:18] < Leofox> how can any eurovision candidate be better than Lordi
[00:07:29] < Leofox> Lordi was the best thing to ever happen to Eurovision
[00:07:37] <+Nikky> Lordi sucks
[00:07:48] < Leofox> lol another rock band
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[00:08:01] <@E-J> yep, they are like finnish manowar
[00:08:24] < Leofox> i guess it's better than the usual singing fags and girls that cant sing
[00:08:39] < Leofox> i mean, wtf
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[00:08:46] < Leofox> why can there never be a good song in Eurovision
[00:09:02] < Leofox> it's not like any of the candidates would make number 1 in a normal chart
[00:09:17] <@E-J> because it's eurovision, most people thinks it's a joke
[00:09:31] <@E-J> and all they eurovisionfans are gay people
[00:09:43] < Leofox> word
[00:09:52] < Leofox> yay defragmentating is at 75%
[00:09:58] < Leofox> i started it at 13:30...
[00:10:05] < Leofox> almost 12 hours ago
[00:11:40] < Leofox> i also kinda got Linux to do something useful
[00:11:47] < Leofox> it runs Eclipse!
[00:12:57] <@E-J> some years before lordi, nightwish was on those but didn't get through finnish system because people's choise was overruled by jury (i think it was 1/3 people's votes and 2/3 jury), and jury was eurovision fans and other music "experts"
[00:13:17] <@E-J> sleepwalker was song iirc
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[00:13:52] <@efneTI86> [Merthsoft] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
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[00:22:32] < Barrett> does anyone know of a good pre-sliced cheese that actually melts and tastes good in a cheeseburger?
[00:22:50] <+Nikky> no idea
[00:23:19] <+Nikky> Tillamook cheese is good
[00:23:26] <+Nikky> and I think comes pre sliced in some markets
[00:23:44] <+Nikky> I think you can find it in Cal... unsure about Utah
[00:23:44] <@E-J> Barrett: do you put cheese to burger before or after warming it?
[00:24:03] < Barrett> E-J: after one side is completely cooked I put the cheese on it while the other side cooks
[00:24:38] <+Nikky> oh
[00:24:44] <+Nikky> what we do is wait until it's all finished
[00:24:49] <+Nikky> and then place the cheese on
[00:24:56] < Barrett> the stuff I've gotten recently won't melt... except for the corners where it's not touching any beef
[00:25:10] <+Merthsoft> beef?
[00:25:18] < Barrett> ...
[00:25:23] < Barrett> what do you make hamburgers with?
[00:25:25] < Barrett> ham?
[00:25:25] <+Nikky> it's whats for dinner
[00:25:53] <+Merthsoft> oh shit
[00:25:54] < DarkAuron> yer momz!
[00:25:55] <+Merthsoft> i've been doin git wrong
[00:26:02] < Barrett> chicken?
[00:26:05] < Barrett> pork?
[00:26:19] < Barrett> don't get me wrong, that other stuff is good sometimes, but I wouldn't call them hamburgers unless it's done with beef
[00:26:20] < DarkAuron> you've been doing git?
[00:26:21] <@E-J> i put hamburger to microwave and then put cheese in :)
[00:26:29] < DarkAuron> you monster!
[00:27:15] < Barrett> E-J: precooked patties?
[00:28:03] < Barrett> here in the US of A you'll only see pre-cooked patties at mcdonalds
[00:28:19] <@E-J> Barrett: something like that "processed" or "convenience" food
[00:28:23] <@E-J> +,
[00:28:37] < Barrett> ah
[00:31:05] < DarkAuron> we made hamburgers last night
[00:31:10] < DarkAuron> with beef, onions, and garlic
[00:31:16] < DarkAuron> to make the patties
[00:31:46] < DarkAuron> we tried to make banh bao but the bread we made wasn't the right type, and we used too much onion in the buns, so it ended up tasting horrible
[00:32:46] <+Merthsoft> sounds awesome
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[00:36:15] <@efneTI86> [Netham45] wewt
[00:37:28] < DarkAuron> the burgers were great, the banh bao was horrible
[00:37:49] <+Merthsoft> i meant the burgers
[00:37:52] < DarkAuron> ah
[00:37:57] <+Merthsoft> <3 garlic
[00:38:08] < DarkAuron> yeah
[00:38:56] <+HQAT> Bah I hate ti... this damn thing just wont work properly...
[00:39:08] <@E-J> Barrett: in finland you can go to shop and buy this kind of burgers http://bp3.blogger.com/_WpdSM8ExdNA/RdYF_S8iy1I/AAAAAAAAABI/xGquHT65yHk/s1600-h/07022007225_eurolla_purilaisia.jpg (couldn't find better picture). 1 costs only 0.2 euros
[00:39:30] <+HQAT> How the hell are you supposed to add something to what the user is currently typing in the homescreen?
[00:40:20] <@E-J> price is cheap and taste is about same
[00:40:49] <+Merthsoft> E-J: i'm moving to finnland
[00:40:54] < DarkAuron> lol
[00:41:04] < Leofox> 0.2 euros is about 5$ i think
[00:41:08] < Leofox> now a days
[00:41:11] < DarkAuron> haha
[00:41:24] < DarkAuron> http://www.google.com/search?q=0.2+euros+to+dollars&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[00:41:27] <+Merthsoft> 5 bucks is a lot for a burger
[00:41:47] <+Merthsoft> what's it day?>
[00:41:48] < Leofox> i was just kidding :)
[00:41:58] < Leofox> it's about 0.30$
[00:42:06] <+Merthsoft> lol
[00:42:07] <+Merthsoft> oh
[00:42:21] <@E-J> wtf, i'll get all the time "We're sorry...
[00:42:26] <@E-J> ... but your query looks similar to automated requests from a computer virus or spyware application. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now. "
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[00:42:51] <+Merthsoft> E-J is a robot
[00:42:59] <+Merthsoft> turing test time
[00:43:15] <@E-J> maybe it was proxy i used (school's proxy)
[00:43:24] <+Nikky> :(
[00:45:32] <@E-J> Merthsoft: and that was when accesing google
[00:45:40] <+Merthsoft> lol
[00:45:43] <+Merthsoft> what'd you put in?
[00:46:06] <+Nikky> DCC SEND STARTKEYLOGGER
[00:46:29] <+Merthsoft> lolol
[00:46:42] <@E-J> first time it was 'eines hampurilainen' without '-marks and second time i clicked that darkie's link
[00:47:08] <+Merthsoft> ahaha
[00:47:09] <@E-J> eines is "processed food, convenience food" and you may guess what hampurilainen is
[00:47:32] <+Merthsoft> is penis?
[00:47:46] <@E-J> ...
[00:48:35] <@E-J> for imbesills, it means "hamburger"
[00:48:51] <@E-J> imbeciles*
[00:48:53] <+Merthsoft> way to spell
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[00:53:33] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!!
[00:53:44] < Sir_Lewk> damn straight it is
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[00:54:29] <@E-J> i think the spoon is curved not straight
[00:54:53] <+Sir_Lewk> doesn't matter, it a lie :P
[00:55:50] <@E-J> nah, maybe lay but not a lie
[00:55:57] < tr1p1ea> well that was interesting
[00:56:13] <+Sir_Lewk> wazzup tr1p1ea?
[00:56:25] < tr1p1ea> just got back home, went out on the town last night
[00:56:43] < tr1p1ea> got drunk and ended up staying at a girls house
[00:56:47] <+Nikky> hit some hella hoes
[00:56:48] < DarkAuron> lol.
[00:57:01] <@E-J> tr1p1ea: where on australia did you live?
[00:57:07] < DarkAuron> I'm about to go out to a coffee place with some friends
[00:57:18] < tr1p1ea> near Melbourne E-J
[00:57:43] < chronomex> DarkAuron: may I join you?
[00:57:49] <+Merthsoft> i'm about to go back to my dorm and program
[00:58:17] <@E-J> tr1p1ea: ah, i and few other finns (totally 25) are going to visit there (melbourne and sydney) in october
[00:59:33] <@E-J> even some girls in crowd, but they might all be too olds for you :)
[00:59:59] < tr1p1ea> hehe
[01:00:08] < tr1p1ea> sounds good E-J
[01:00:09] <+Nikky> tr1p1ea likes them young
[01:00:14] <@E-J> or engaged
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[01:00:23] < tr1p1ea> or both
[01:00:28] <@E-J> yep
[01:00:34] < DarkAuron> chronomex: if you don't mind driving to arlington, sure :P
[01:01:17] <@E-J> youngest people might be 21-22 and oldest something like 26 or 27
[01:01:23] < chronomex> oh.
[01:01:54] < mokomull> DarkAuron: I can be there in 3.5 hrs :)
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[01:04:17] < Netham45> ok
[01:04:29] < Netham45> I have working pandora,etc... on my PSP, but no working normal battery.
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[01:22:33] <@E-J> Netham45: that swedish europop-star?
[01:32:40] < Netham45> no
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[01:36:24] < mokomull> chro
[01:37:35] < chronomex> mokomull: that me?
[01:38:06] < Sir_Lewk_> and mac dudes around?
[01:38:39] < moko|586> chronomex: is what you?
[01:38:53] < Sir_Lewk_> I'm on a linux machine, sshed into the mac with X forwarding enabled
[01:39:06] < chronomex> < mokomull> chro 
[01:39:07] < chronomex> that
[01:39:10] < moko|586> oh
[01:39:16] < Sir_Lewk_> I've enabled X forwarding on the mac and can run X apps like wireshark
[01:39:30] < moko|586> yeah, I was intending to type something to you... but the machine that I'm SSHed into stopped responding to me for some reason
[01:39:38] < chronomex> ah
[01:39:40] < Sir_Lewk_> is there any way to forward stuff like Safari to my linux box?
[01:39:51] < moko|586> so ... chronomex: march 14th.
[01:39:52] < moko|586> :)
[01:39:58] < chronomex> urm
[01:40:01]  * chronomex checks calendar
[01:40:21] < moko|586> I'll be there the night of the 13th, too
[01:40:31] < chronomex> when are you leaving?
[01:40:33] < moko|586> 19:39 [EFNet] CTCP PING reply from mokomull: 50.176 seconds
[01:40:57] < moko|586> I requested to leave out of IAH between noon and 3PM
[01:41:03] < chronomex> IAH?
[01:41:18] < moko|586> George Bush International (Airport of Houston)
[01:41:23] < moko|586> Intercontinental*
[01:41:31] < chronomex> ok
[01:41:43] < chronomex> I meant when are you leaving seattle?
[01:41:59] < mokomull> oh
[01:42:07] < chronomex> 14-mar is the last class day for me
[01:42:08] < mokomull> now this box is responding like nothing happened.
[01:42:16] < mokomull> oh, okay... I'm leaving the 15th.
[01:42:26] < mokomull> again, between noon and 3pm, I do believe
[01:42:43] < chronomex> ah, I can do all the 13th or 14th or anytime the 15th
[01:42:58] < chronomex> dunno bout nikky
[01:43:00] < mokomull> and MS will pay up to $40 of dinner, so :)
[01:43:03] < chronomex> Nikky: stabbity
[01:43:04] < chronomex> awesome
[01:43:17] <+Captain_A> pi day?
[01:43:20] < mokomull> (just mine though, unfortunately)
[01:43:24] < mokomull> Captain_A: Already been there :)
[01:43:37] <+Captain_A> :D
[01:45:12] <+Captain_A> I need to get a car
[01:45:27] <+Captain_A> Well insurance more than a car
[01:46:21] <+BrandonW> Who needs a car when you have car insurance, right?
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[01:54:40] < mynameisn> hey, does any1 know how to put that new game called mario 68k to work on a ti89
[01:54:55] <+BrandonW> Did you read the readme and do what it says?
[01:55:00] <+BrandonW> What does it say when it doesn't work properly?
[01:55:42] < Barrett> Nikky: tillamook looks like it will be perfect
[01:55:55] < Barrett> they had some at the store (sliced) and it looks the same color as the cheese that melts at restaurants
[01:56:03] < mynameisn> ill be quiet now
[01:56:17] <+BrandonW> Why?
[01:56:26] <+BrandonW> Does it work now?
[01:56:28] < Netham45> BrandonW, do you know a PSP program that will let me stream from TVersity?
[01:56:35] < Netham45> stream video*
[01:56:49] <+BrandonW> I have no idea what TVersity is, but there's stuff out there that can stream from a PC.
[01:57:12] < Netham45> BrandonW, can any of them play DVDs?
[01:57:17] < mynameisn> i never saw that readme file, so, yea
[01:57:25] < mynameisn> ty for the help anyway
[01:57:36] <+BrandonW> Netham45, I never used one so I couldn't say, but I don't see why not.
[01:57:50] < Netham45> BrandonW, I can't find one.
[01:59:02] <+BrandonW> http://tversity.com/support/faq/
[01:59:10] <+BrandonW> Says the PSP is supported.
[01:59:22] < millinao> lol, search for "psp stream" brings me to a story on foxnews.com
[01:59:25] <+BrandonW> No homebrew required.
[01:59:32] < Netham45> BrandonW, that only downloads to the PSP
[01:59:35] < Netham45> doesn't stream to it
[01:59:51] < Netham45> the PSP doesn't natively support streaming video without a PS3 or a Location Free player
[02:01:40] <+BrandonW> Apparently there's something called Pimpstreamer.
[02:01:53] <+BrandonW> Keep looking, I know there's homebrew that can stream from something like VLC.
[02:01:58] < Netham45> yea
[02:02:00] <+BrandonW> How you get whatever TVersity is to VLC, I don't know.
[02:02:11] < Netham45> I've tried pimpstreamer and the VLC client
[02:02:13] < Netham45> neither work right
[02:02:29] <+BrandonW> That's all I know from 2 minutes of googling.
[02:03:07] <+Captain_A> BrandonW: No, because I have a car more or less, I need insurance to actually be allowed to drive it though
[02:03:21] < Netham45> BrandonW, I've been googling for about 2 hours.
[02:03:55] <+BrandonW> What CAN you stream out to with this TVersity?
[02:04:29] <+BrandonW> Start there.
[02:04:41] < Netham45> any UPnP compliant reciever
[02:04:47] < Netham45> so I need a UPnP client for my PSP
[02:05:26] <+BrandonW> Can you stream anything at all from VLC to the PSP?
[02:05:36] < Netham45> for about 5 minutes
[02:05:39] <+BrandonW> Get that working, and get VLC talking to TVersity.
[02:05:42] < Netham45> it crashes after about 5 minutes, though.
[02:06:00] < Netham45> I <3 Timemachine
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[02:55:31] <@efneTI86> [Merthsoft] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
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[03:25:26] <+Nikky> ow chronomex 
[03:26:56] < mokomull> hehe
[03:27:04] < mokomull> Nikky: I'll be there the 13th through the 15th.
[03:27:32] <+Nikky> that works
[03:27:49] < mokomull> so we've got two weeks to figure out what we want to eat
[03:28:07] < mokomull> keep in mind I can't get alcohol legally, unless it's 18 in WA.
[03:28:20] <+Nikky> Crack Cocaine
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[03:47:43] <+BrandonW> Lay off the crack, Nikky.
[03:56:33] <+Nikky> k
[04:00:01] < Barrett> BYU! BYU!
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[04:02:54] < Barrett> 46 home wins in a row
[04:03:21] <+BrandonW> X-Men 3 kinda sucked.
[04:03:35] < Barrett> yeah... too many people died
[04:03:51] <+BrandonW> The Jean plot is just nonsense.
[04:03:56] < Barrett> one of them will come back to life when/if they make another one
[04:04:08] < Barrett> but they didn't have to kill one eyed man
[04:04:11] <+BrandonW> The original concept with the first movie was good.
[04:04:25] < millinao> haha, kill bill owns
[04:04:31] <+BrandonW> Democrat.
[04:04:32] < Netham45> installing XP on my PSP
[04:04:34] < Netham45> wee
[04:04:49] <+BrandonW> With the PC emulator?
[04:04:52] < Netham45> yea
[04:04:55] <+BrandonW> That's stupid.
[04:04:59] <+BrandonW> It's even stupid with Windows 95.
[04:05:02] < Netham45> i'm installing it on my PC, then I'm going to copy it to my PS
[04:05:04] < Netham45> PSP *
[04:05:21] < Netham45> XP has this useful on screen keyboard I'm going to use
[04:05:33] <+BrandonW> XP will take 30 minutes to boot, if not longer.
[04:05:56] < Netham45> I'll boot it on my PC, and save a booted state
[04:06:02] < millinao> i've heard of 95 on the PSP, why XP?
[04:06:10] <+BrandonW> Because he's an idiot.
[04:06:12] < Netham45> millinao, because I don't have a copy of 95.
[04:06:16] <+BrandonW> It still won't be usable.
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[04:06:26] < millinao> if anything install damn small linux
[04:06:30] < millinao> or something
[04:06:34] < aadster> DSL!
[04:06:44] < Netham45> does it have a GUI that I can have an on screen keyboard start at boot with?
[04:06:46] < aadster> Any mention of it is worth a big
[04:06:47] < aadster> FTW
[04:06:54] < millinao> probably
[04:06:58] < millinao> and if not you can install it
[04:07:06] < aadster> hey - is there a program I can get that allows me to type in BASIC code in my PC, save it as a .8xp file and transfer it to my calc?
[04:07:16] <+BrandonW> TI-Graph Link 83 Plus will let you save them.
[04:07:22] <+BrandonW> Use TI Connect or TiLP2 or whatever to transfer them.
[04:07:27] <+BrandonW> No, there is nothing else worth mentioning.
[04:07:33] <+BrandonW> It's a 16-bit Windows program.
[04:07:52] < aadster> So I need to download Graph Link? It isnt in Ti-Connect?
[04:07:56] <+BrandonW> No.
[04:08:01] <+BrandonW> TI Connect is shit, as I'm sure we all know.
[04:08:03] <+BrandonW> It does not have a program editor.
[04:08:18] < millinao> oh, I should download TiLP
[04:08:19] < aadster> ok
[04:09:49] < aadster> I learned almost all of the BASIC language today
[04:09:55] < aadster> then I'll really try Asm
[04:10:16] <+BrandonW> The whole day, eh?
[04:10:44] < aadster> Well, I got almost all of the commands down
[04:10:53] < aadster> I read about 3 different tutorials
[04:11:01] < aadster> now I just need to make a few games/programs
[04:11:08] < millinao> who else thinks rick astley would make good DDR songs?
[04:11:17] < aadster> My first prog. was a magic 8 ball thing...haha
[04:11:20] < aadster> simple, I know.
[04:12:53] <+BrandonW> That's good.
[04:13:01] < aadster> Ok, Ti-Graph Link is just what I was looking for...a lot quicker than doing it all on my calculator.
[04:13:19] < aadster> Yea - I actually used to mess around with q-basic on my old DOS computer alot
[04:13:24] < aadster> its very similar stuff
[04:13:44] < aadster> Asm is totally different.
[04:13:47] < millinao> damn my arcade, they no longer have ddr
[04:13:50] < millinao> damn them to hell
[04:14:19] < aadster> last Friday I printed off ALL that asm in 28 days tutorial on our school's printer...(but i had to be sneaky, it was a TON of pages.)
[04:14:30] < aadster> we have this old printer in a closet that the SPED room uses, so i printed to it.
[04:14:42] < aadster> It's funny - the sped kids draw on it in crayon.
[04:15:13] <+BrandonW> On the printer?
[04:15:17] < aadster> It's easier to read on paper, and that way I don't have to print it out  at my house.
[04:15:19] < millinao> sped=special ed?
[04:15:22] < aadster> yeah - on the printer!
[04:15:24] < aadster> yea milliano
[04:15:27] < aadster> haha
[04:15:44] < aadster> I've actually printed a bunch of crap onto it
[04:15:53] < aadster> It holds a ton of paper, its an old laser printer.
[04:15:59] < aadster> I've even printed eBooks before.
[04:16:05] < aadster> If the school found out - they'd have a cow.
[04:16:25] <+BrandonW> I think the certificate on these two 73s are very significant.
[04:17:47] < aadster> Haha, have you ever heard of HIJETTER?
[04:18:19] <+BrandonW> No.
[04:18:20] < aadster> It's a program to change the text on printer lcd screens. A bunch of people used to change the screen text of the printer in the library to scroll : "The librarian is a real bitch..."
[04:18:34] <+BrandonW> Interesting.
[04:18:36] < aadster> you have to find the network printer IPs and it hacks them.
[04:18:50] < aadster> It was so funny...to walk into the library and see teachers huddled around the printer.
[04:19:03] < millinao> does it work on shared USB printers?
[04:19:09] < aadster> It was if the printer had a mind of its own, throwing out random insults
[04:19:36] < aadster> I'm not sure millinao
[04:19:38] < aadster> http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=security/networkprinterhacking
[04:19:42] < aadster> that's where I found it
[04:20:03] < aadster> I liked HIJETTER, its easy to use.
[04:20:14] < aadster> It specialized in HP's but worked like a charm on Lexmarks
[04:20:26] < Randomist> How cheap would it be to get something to convert sound into data the calculator can process.
[04:20:32]  * Captain_A <3s Kill Bill 2
[04:20:54] < millinao> cheap? everything is free on the internet
[04:21:14] < aadster> hey
[04:21:17] < aadster> here's the official site
[04:21:17] < aadster> http://www.phenoelit-us.org/hp/index.html
[04:21:46] < millinao> hmm
[04:21:56] < millinao> i wonder if the computer just forwards the printer's port
[04:21:58] < aadster> very interesting website ;)
[04:22:15] < millinao> screw it, I need a network printer for this
[04:23:01] < aadster> gotta go
[04:23:02] < aadster> later
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[04:23:09] < millinao> I need to see kill bill all the way through
[04:23:15] < millinao> i don't know the story
[04:23:28] <+Captain_A> It is really good
[04:23:32] < millinao> i've just seen the awesome fight scenes
[04:23:57] <+Captain_A> the violence is so over dramatized, but it still rocks
[04:24:04] < millinao> quentin tarantino keeps making badass movies
[04:24:33] <+Captain_A> Hmm, I am going to have to find out my school's printer ip
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[04:25:52] < millinao> pulp fiction was grand
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[04:26:59] <+Captain_A> Meh, I hate xchat on windows
[04:27:01] <+BrandonW> Deathproof or Planet Terror?
[04:27:34] < millinao> Deathproof was made by quentin
[04:27:45] <+BrandonW> He had a little to do with Planet Terror.
[04:28:00] < millinao> yeah, I know
[04:28:04] <+BrandonW> He also had a little to do with Hostel.
[04:28:18] < millinao> haven't seen grindhouse though
[04:28:30] <+BrandonW> Planet Terror was a little too wacky.
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[04:30:30] <+BrandonW> There's also a lot of useless talking in Deathproof, but I enjoyed it.
[04:31:06] < millinao> oh, has anyone seen the king of kong?
[04:31:17] < millinao> a movie about donkey kong
[04:32:56] <+Nikky> shut up
[04:33:12] <+BrandonW> And why should anyone do that?
[04:36:47] <+BrandonW> If you can't back up your demands, you're the one that should shut up.
[04:37:22] < DarkAuron> my farts smell like rotten eggs
[04:37:39] < millinao> thats great
[04:37:45] < DarkAuron> it truely is
[04:38:11] < Netham45> YAY!
[04:38:17] < Netham45> I KNOW WHAT DA's farts smell like!
[04:38:21] < Netham45> my life is now COMPLETE!
[04:38:27] < DarkAuron> you're welcome netham
[04:38:31] <+Nikky> ...
[04:38:34] <+Nikky> Okay DarkAuron 
[04:38:40] <+Nikky> We really didn't need to know that.
[04:38:45] <+bsparks> NIN is better louder
[04:38:46] <+Nikky> And I like Netham45's sarcasm. :)
[04:38:47] < millinao> yes we did Nikky
[04:38:49] < millinao> YES WE DID
[04:38:54] <+Nikky> tard
[04:39:03] <+Nikky> We don't want to know your strange fetishes.
[04:39:47] <+bsparks> bass that makes your body shake, literally, is cool
[04:40:13] < Netham45> yea
[04:40:14] < Netham45> it is
[04:40:24] < millinao> putting your head on the C peg while a cello is vibrating feels funny
[04:40:46] < DarkAuron> it happens
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[04:45:01]  * bsparks is very happy he found this CD
[04:45:25]  * BrandonW is very unhappy with TI Connect.
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[04:45:35] <@efneTI86> [Captain_A] Censored
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[04:45:42] <+Captain_A> Alright I have mirc now
[04:46:15] <+Nikky> ok
[04:46:33] <+bsparks> And All That Could Have Been is one of the best CDs evar
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[05:20:20] <+Nikky> Andy_J: link to gh rick roll plz
[05:20:47] <+BrandonW> Loser.
[05:21:17] <+Nikky> nerd
[05:21:22] <+Nikky> why are you voiced
[05:21:33] <+Nikky> ... why am I voiced
[05:21:53] <+BrandonW> You voiced me.
[05:22:12] <+Nikky> I'm pretty sure I didn't.
[05:22:46] <+BrandonW> It definitely wasn't me.
[05:22:51] <+BrandonW> But I remember you getting voiced at the same time.
[05:23:02] <+Nikky> hrm
[05:23:05] <+Nikky> when wsa this?
[05:23:09] <+BrandonW> Who knows.
[05:23:13] <+BrandonW> I have no sense of time anymore.
[05:23:39] <+Nikky> k
[05:24:00] <+BrandonW> l
[05:24:12] <+Nikky> m
[05:26:21] <+BrandonW> Yay, crashed the flash debugger.
[05:26:25] <+BrandonW> From the 73.
[05:26:35] <+patz2009> w00t?
[05:26:44] <+BrandonW> Not what I intended exactly, but sort of good.
[05:28:04] < Netham45> haha
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[05:45:00]  * Randomist yawns.
[05:49:01] <+BrandonW> Andy_J: around?
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[05:49:16] <+Tari> no
[05:49:37] <+BrandonW> I don't suppose you already have a tool that would dump raw data into an 8XV, do you?
[05:49:51] <+Tari> I have one that does the opposite
[05:50:19] <+BrandonW> I remember writing something that would fix the checksum on an 8XV you put together, but who know where it is now.
[05:50:29] <+BrandonW> knows*
[05:51:14]  * Tari shrugs
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[06:06:41] <@Andy_J> I'm around now
[06:06:48] <+DSP_Lord> Andy_J
[06:06:50] <+DSP_Lord> hai
[06:07:15] <@Andy_J> DSP_Lord: lrn2checkstatusb4inviting2gameidonthave
[06:07:30] <@Andy_J> Nikky: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Uzddur21RVs
[06:10:17] < i_c-Y> Andy_J: id assume thats a rickroll?
[06:10:56] < i_c-Y> i dont think people have realized how retarded rickrolls are yet.
[06:11:01] <@Andy_J> 00:20:55 <+Nikky> Andy_J: link to gh rick roll plz
[06:11:05] < i_c-Y> oh
[06:11:07] < i_c-Y> word
[06:11:28] <@Andy_J> it's funny because it's different
[06:11:34] <@Andy_J> but the xkcd rickroll takes the cake
[06:12:07] < i_c-Y> the xkcd rickroll is what made the digg faggots all go OMG RICKROLL OMG RICKROLL OMG RICKROLL
[06:12:24] < i_c-Y> and me go OMG IM GOING TO KILL YOU IN YOUR SLEEP OMG IM NOT GOING TO WAIT TILL YOU SLEEP OMG IM GOING TO KILL YOU
[06:12:26] <@Andy_J> I actually want that custom >_>
[06:12:27] < i_c-Y> :)
[06:12:49] <@Andy_J> and put it in the setlist with some awesome song's name
[06:13:07] < Netham45> does the Grammar Nazi go, "No commas for you!"
[06:13:29] <@Andy_J> and have the loading screen be "The setlist lied. This song is really Never Gonna Give You Up - Rick Astley. Yes, you just got rickrolled."
[06:13:39] <@Andy_J> It would be epic lulz.
[06:14:39] <@Andy_J> put it under Salieri Strikes Back or Speed Metal Symphony or something
[06:14:49] <@Andy_J> I am totaly going to do that now.
[06:14:57] <@Andy_J> And get my ass kicked when someone picks it XD
[06:16:41] <+BrandonW> I'm starting to think you put a little too much time into that game.
[06:16:52] <@Andy_J> Hogwash.
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[06:17:01] <@Andy_J> Compared to a lot of people I hardly ever play.
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[06:22:56] < DarkAuron> anyone want a commodore 64?
[06:23:17] <+Merthsoft> YES
[06:23:18] <+Merthsoft> GOD YES
[06:23:26] <+Merthsoft> does it work?
[06:24:03] < DarkAuron> last time I used it it worked
[06:24:05] < DarkAuron> I can test it though
[06:24:13] <+Merthsoft> oh sweeeeet
[06:24:23] < DarkAuron> like.. my step-dad giving me the commodore 64 is what got me interested in programming when I was 10 :o
[06:25:03] < DarkAuron> I have a lot of stuff for it, too. not sure if I left some of it at my brother's or if I have it here, like some catridges or programs
[06:25:19] <+Merthsoft> if it works, i'll take it
[06:25:22] < DarkAuron> but I at least have the commodore, two floppy drives (one working one not, that I know), cables, etc
[06:25:35] < DarkAuron> and a verbatim disk
[06:25:36] <+Merthsoft> are the cables coax or rca?
[06:25:41] < DarkAuron> coax
[06:25:43] <+Merthsoft> well shit
[06:25:45] <+Merthsoft> oh well
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[06:26:13] < DarkAuron> I even have all the manuals and stuff
[06:28:19] <+Merthsoft> DarkAuron: when can you test it?
[06:28:56] < DarkAuron> perhaps tomorrow (sunday)
[06:29:24] <+Merthsoft> :(
[06:30:06] < DarkAuron> not right now though
[06:30:18] < DarkAuron> especially since I already put it back in my closet and put everything else back; I was cleaning out stuff from my closet
[06:30:40] < DarkAuron> trying to get rid of useless stuff. about 5 boxes are full of, what I literally consider trash, outside of my room atm
[06:30:56] < DarkAuron> another box full of donate-worthy things
[06:31:01] < DarkAuron> and then two CRT monitors that I don't want
[06:31:04] <+Merthsoft> now why would you put it away BEFORE asking if anyone wanted one
[06:31:28] < DarkAuron> tired :P
[06:31:39] <+Merthsoft> GRR
[06:31:50] <+Merthsoft> it's only like 11:30 there, isn't it?
[06:33:48] <+Nikky> http://digg.com/celebrity/Ron_Paul_plays_Guitar_Hero_mobile_on_Jailbroken_iPhone
[06:34:07] <+BrandonW> diggtard
[06:34:17] <+Merthsoft> diggtard
[06:34:31] <+BrandonW> You just lost what little respect anyone may have still had for you.
[06:34:35] <+Merthsoft> any chance to rick roll us, huh Nikky 
[06:34:41] <+Nikky> pretty much
[06:34:47] <+Merthsoft> i still <3 you
[06:34:55] <+Nikky> <3
[06:35:03] <+Merthsoft> ok, bed time
[06:35:10] <+Merthsoft> DarkAuron: Let me know tomorrow?
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[06:38:11] < DarkAuron> oaky
[06:38:12] < DarkAuron> okay*
[06:38:33] < DarkAuron> and it's 12:38am atm
[06:38:57] < DarkAuron> I had a long day and played DDR for 2 hours earlier
[06:38:59] <+Merthsoft> you're only an hour behind?
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[06:44:30] <+BrandonW> Very astute of you.
[06:46:54] < Netham45> hehe
[06:46:55] < Netham45> ass toot
[06:47:58] < mokomull> damn, DarkAuron ... you remind me that I need to get back on the pads and get my ass in shape >_<
[06:55:46] < Spengo> http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2003/pc/fs2004/0722/fs_screen018.jpg
[06:55:47] < Spengo> LOL CHICKENS
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[07:15:19] <+BrandonW> Why did TASM compile ";d bc.004Ch"?
[07:15:25] <+BrandonW> Stupid semicolon...
[07:15:28] <+BrandonW> assemble*
[07:15:30] <+BrandonW> It's late.
[07:15:42] <+BrandonW> That bug has been bugging me all night.
[07:16:20] < chronomex> what's it do that's wrong?
[07:16:29] < chronomex> is that supposed to be a comment?
[07:16:52] < Netham45> I'd assume it is supposed to be "ld bc,004Ch"
[07:17:00] <+BrandonW> Yes.
[07:17:03] < chronomex> oh
[07:17:06] <+BrandonW> It's not a comment.
[07:17:10] <+BrandonW> I mean, that's what it took it as.
[07:17:12] <+BrandonW> But not what I intended.
[07:17:21] < chronomex> ok
[07:19:09] < Netham45> is 22000000 instructions per second good?
[07:19:49] < chronomex> 22,000,000 ... yes
[07:19:56] < Netham45> for a PC
[07:19:58] < chronomex> that's ~100 mhz
[07:20:04] < Netham45> =/
[07:20:06] < Netham45> boo
[07:20:10] < chronomex> maybe
[07:20:12] < Netham45> I'm emulating a PC
[07:20:16] < Netham45> and that is what it is giving me
[07:20:18] < chronomex> assuming ~4 cycles/instr
[07:20:38] < Netham45> fairly sure I can bump it up by removing restraints on it
[07:21:48] < Netham45> yea
[07:22:00] < Netham45> it's loosely limited to 20,000,000
[07:27:03] <+BrandonW> And here you are trying to run XP.
[07:27:22] < Netham45> hmm
[07:27:29] < Netham45> got it to ~70,000,000
[07:28:10] < Netham45> no
[07:28:11] < Netham45> wait
[07:28:21] < Netham45> 700,000,000.....
[07:28:23] < Netham45> seems a bit high
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[07:52:31] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!!
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[08:52:04] <+Sir_Lewk> mp3 to ogg is such a pain x(
[08:54:58] < DarkAuron> why so?
[08:57:01] <+BrandonW> Would you like to hear what a pain is?
[08:57:38] <+BrandonW> To test code on a 73 incapable of running assembly programs, I'm writing an 83+ program which dumps a hacked backup from the flash debugger, store that on the 83+ in 3 pieces, transfer that back to the PC and combine them, make an 8XV out of it, fix the checksum...
[08:57:46] <+BrandonW> Then put that 8XV back on the 83+.
[08:57:53] <+BrandonW> And send it back to the 73 to break it.
[08:58:01] <+BrandonW> And then send a program to dump the ROM.
[08:58:09] <+BrandonW> That's with every code change.
[08:58:47] <+BrandonW> And if this last test doesn't work, I'm going to lose it.
[08:58:49] <+Sir_Lewk> I guess I shouldn't complain
[08:59:07] <+Sir_Lewk> the conversion took me 2.5 minutes :P
[09:00:08] <+BrandonW> AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
[09:01:42] <+BrandonW> Okay, fine, I quit.
[09:01:53] <+BrandonW> I'm sure it would've worked and I would've been done, but just no.
[09:01:57] <+BrandonW> I made a stupid mistake.
[09:02:00] <+BrandonW> I'm not going through that again.
[09:02:30] <+BrandonW> All this to dump an extremely old 73 ROM from a calculator I'm probably going to end up buying anyway.
[09:05:52] <+BrandonW> I've come to the realization that I'm insane.
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[09:36:00] < al_b> well
[09:36:08] < al_b> yes, but I was too polite to say it
[09:43:52] < al_b> no offence  :D
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[15:10:25] < i_c-Y> <+Sir_Lewk> mp3 to ogg is such a pain x( 
[15:10:30] < i_c-Y> why would you do that?
[15:11:11] < i_c-Y> all you're going to do is degrade the sound quality in most cases, and not have anything to gain.
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[15:23:56] <+HQAT> Umm does anyone know if there is a TI-OS way to convert a ti float into a token string?
[15:24:31] <+HQAT> I tried FormBase and FormReal but they act weird and the return a string... not the tokens... 
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[15:28:05] <@benryves> How do you mean, "act weird"?
[15:29:17] <+HQAT> umm it gives an overflow a lot of the times...
[15:29:37] <+HQAT> I can only convert floats that have like 1 digit and no exponents...
[15:30:39] <@benryves> Have you set the various options correctly first?
[15:31:15] <+HQAT> Umm I didn't set any options... do you have to? I though the sdk stated that not setting any options would use the system settings?
[15:31:17] <@benryves> I've only used FormEReal myself (which ignores the user's format settings), and is probably what you're after. :\
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[15:32:01] <+HQAT> Ok I'll try that...
[15:40:23] <+HQAT> Thanks... FormEReal works perfectly... it still outputs a normal string tho.. so I'll have to convert the '-', '.' and 'e' tokens but that shouldn't be to much of a problem...
[15:42:57] <@benryves> I don't know if there is a function that can turn characters or strings into their tokenised form. It shouldn't be too tricky to do yourself, as you mentioned. :D
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[16:34:48] < i_c-Y> benryves: if the 83s were any good it would be built in ;) 
[16:34:54] < i_c-Y> the 89s are the superior calculators
[16:38:46] <@E-J> ben left
[16:40:12] < i_c-Y> yeah i know :-/
[16:40:17] < i_c-Y> he is with us in spirit though
[16:54:10] < mokomull> haha
[16:54:21] <+Merthsoft> he's always here
[16:54:24]  * Merthsoft points to chest
[16:54:26] <+Merthsoft> in my heart
[17:17:39] <+Captain_A> haha
[17:19:03] <+Captain_A> Anyone else watching the game developers choice awards?
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[18:44:29] < Spengo> hellsing 4 subs are out
[18:44:34] < Spengo> look for 'em on /rs/
[18:44:47] < Spengo> i_c-Y, hellsing 4!
[18:45:25] < i_c-Y> :D
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[19:35:02] <@efneTI86> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[19:51:05] <+BrandonW> No, you can't take a string and convert it to tokens. If you could do that, we could easily make a homescreen hook so you could type commands yourself, like the 85 and up.
[19:52:35] <+TD-Linux> of course you can convert it to tokens
[19:52:42] <+TD-Linux> with lots of coding
[19:52:54] <+TD-Linux> and a gigantic table
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[19:57:50] <+BrandonW> Which is more effort than it's worth, which is why no one has done it.
[20:13:47] <+patz2009> I thought I've seen a program that parses a string and converts which parts of it to tokens that it can
[20:14:06] <+BrandonW> BASIC?
[20:14:17] <+patz2009> no, an ASM program
[20:14:31] <+BrandonW> Find it.
[20:14:33] <+patz2009> for instance, it would convert the 4 characters c o s (, it would return the token cos(
[20:14:39] <@Andy_J> JMan did it.
[20:14:41] <+patz2009> I can't remember where it was
[20:14:50] <@Andy_J> I don't think he ever released publicly
[20:14:54] <+BrandonW> JMan and Andy_J did something that involved some ugly OS hack.
[20:25:02] < Barrett> what is an ide of march?
[20:25:07] < Barrett> or ides
[20:25:15] <+BrandonW> Crashed the emulator, but I finally got code running on the crippled 73.
[20:25:38] <+patz2009> Barrett: March 15th, the day of Julius Caesar's assassination
[20:25:44] < Barrett> oh
[20:26:45] <+patz2009> !seen filler
[20:26:47] <@efneTI86> filler (~silkey@bofh.ece.utexas.edu) was last seen quitting from #ti 31 days, 6 hours, 13 minutes ago stating (bai2u).
[20:26:48] < aardvarq> Barrett: It's outdated. Get a SATAs of March.
[20:28:19] <+TD-Linux> crippled 73?
[20:29:23] <+TD-Linux> BrandonW, finish your usb drive thing so ticalc can have some news :P
[20:29:41] < Barrett> ha ha ha
[20:30:11] <+BrandonW> Fix it for me and I will.
[20:30:37] <+BrandonW> By "crippled 73", I meant the 73 that tifreak has with an extremely old ROM version, which I'd like to dump. It has no ability to run assembly programs, so I was using the 82/85 method.
[20:30:54] <+BrandonW> Someone else here has an 86 with the same thing...it has an Asm( command, but it doesn't seem to work.
[20:32:35] < aardvarq> The 82 method and the 85 method are completely different!
[20:32:46] <+BrandonW> Right, sorry.
[20:32:49] <+BrandonW> The backup method.
[20:32:52] <+BrandonW> The 86 guy's using the custom menu.
[20:33:09] < aardvarq> That's the 85 method. The 82 method is more complex. :)
[20:33:30] <+BrandonW> It's all with a modified backup.
[20:33:36] <+BrandonW> I'm screwing around with REAL variables.
[20:33:42] <+BrandonW> He's screwing around with the custom menu.
[20:34:07] < aardvarq> Well there you go then. The 82 method and the 85 method.
[20:34:34] <+TD-Linux> BrandonW, still stuck with that 2nd sector problem?
[20:34:42] <+BrandonW> Yes.
[20:35:09] <+TD-Linux> is there a way I can help / test?
[20:35:50] <+BrandonW> Not really.
[20:36:16] <+HQAT> What would be the best way to make an animated screenshot for the ti83/84? I've been told to use vti.. but I cant seem to load apps on vti...
[20:36:38] <+TD-Linux> BrandonW, do you know if it has to do with the first sector?
[20:36:41] <+TD-Linux> I mean
[20:36:45] <+TD-Linux> the contents of it
[20:37:23] <+BrandonW> It shouldn't...I could give it complete garbage and it should interpret that as a corrupted drive. But even still, I send it the right data.
[20:37:55]  * TD-Linux would pop in a normal USB drive and compare what happens on a usb data logger
[20:38:02] <+BrandonW> It's identical.
[20:38:33] <+TD-Linux> so it just hangs grabbing second sector?
[20:38:49] <+BrandonW> It chokes on it, even though it succeeds getting the second sector...the next thing it does after that is try re-reading the descriptors and start over with the first sector.
[20:39:20] <+TD-Linux> hmm I wonder if it's timing out or something
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[20:39:40] <+BrandonW> That's what it says. That process repeats and then it says it times out.
[20:39:54] <+BrandonW> I do give it the sector, though, and the acknowledgement.
[20:39:55] <+BrandonW> It gets it.
[20:40:30] <+patz2009> Is the calculator fast enough to keep up with everything?
[20:41:18] <+TD-Linux> you could try it on a different USB host, like Linux or a PSP
[20:41:27] <+patz2009> I didn
[20:41:29] <+TD-Linux> put a tiny FAT file system on there for testing
[20:41:39] <+patz2009> t think that a PSP was a USB host?
[20:41:55] <+TD-Linux> I thought it support USB OTG.
[20:42:03] <+BrandonW> The PSP still confuses me. It's not a mini-AB port.
[20:42:09] <+BrandonW> But I think it might be On-the-Go.
[20:42:11] <+patz2009> It has a Mini-B connector, not A
[20:42:22] <+TD-Linux> BrandonW, yeah
[20:42:27] <+TD-Linux> the connector is wrong
[20:42:52] <+TD-Linux> but I've seen it act as a usb host, dunno if that requires hax
[20:43:02] <+patz2009> Where?
[20:43:08] <+TD-Linux> google
[20:43:26] <+TD-Linux> is there any way to test mythtv without a tuner card?
[20:50:42] <+BrandonW> I wouldn't think so.
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[20:57:24] <+HQAT> Just made the first animated screenshot for my *far* from finished CAS... http://www.tha-almighty.com/TACAS.GIF Basicly the parsing is finished and the output is finished... 
[20:58:00] <+HQAT> The only thing it simplifies up till now is removing redundant parenthesis tho :P
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[21:04:26] <+BrandonW> AH! We don't have equates for sending/receiving bytes on the 73.
[21:04:28] <+BrandonW> We just have nothing.
[21:05:16] <+BrandonW> That looks like excellent work, HQAT.
[21:07:23] <+HQAT> Thanks... next I think I'll add differentiation... that should be quite simple... the simplify function is gonna be tricky tho... :D
[21:08:45] <+TD-Linux> HQAT, wow, I see POTY material there :)
[21:09:13] < Netham45> BrandonW, would you happen to have a 1.00 PSP firmware dump?
[21:09:24] <+BrandonW> I sure don't.
[21:09:33] < Netham45> =/
[21:09:35] <+BrandonW> What do you want one for?
[21:09:41] < Netham45> I'm trying to downgrade to 1.00
[21:09:47] <+HQAT> lol... too bad school is starting tomorrow... vacations are great for programming :D
[21:10:00] < Netham45> Bochs wants a 1.00, and KXploit is failing me
[21:15:47] <+BrandonW> Well, the 73 just sucks...
[21:15:52] <+BrandonW> There are NO send/receive LINK BCALLs.
[21:15:57] <+BrandonW> Except a couple of things like _GetVarCMd.
[21:23:20] < Netham45> it doesn't have linking?
[21:23:32] <+BrandonW> It does, just not open to applications.
[21:24:18] < Netham45> oh
[21:24:31] < Netham45> here we go...
[21:24:34] < Netham45> got 1.00 dump
[21:31:20] <+BrandonW> What a huge waste of time...
[21:31:27] <+BrandonW> I could've just used the 73's Calcsys to run code.
[21:31:54] <+BrandonW> Oh well, it's done.
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[21:58:40] <+bsparks> Speler, so
[21:58:53] <+Speler> Heya
[21:59:05] <+bsparks> Speler, ever play seilkus [ sp? ] by cly5m 
[21:59:19] <+Speler> Nope, sorry
[21:59:31] <+bsparks> you run windows?
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[21:59:50] <+Speler> Not currently
[22:00:01] <+bsparks> not even a decent compatability layer?
[22:00:35] < tailsfan> hey
[22:00:42] < tailsfan> Sorry for the absence
[22:00:52] <+Speler> I run darwine
[22:01:06] <+Speler> But most things don't work with it
[22:01:09] <+bsparks> ah
[22:01:15] <+bsparks> well, nevermind then :P
[22:01:31] <+Speler> Heh
[22:17:07] < i_c-Y> Speler: you use a mac?
[22:17:15] <+Speler> Mhmm
[22:17:28] < aadster> is the AARPG construction set any good
[22:17:44] < DarkAuron> no
[22:18:00] < aadster> ok
[22:18:22] < aadster> is it worth it to attempt an rpg in basic, or should I just learn ASM
[22:18:46] <+BrandonW> If you ask me, I say don't make an RPG period.
[22:18:51] <+BrandonW> But you didn't ask me, so I'll back away now.
[22:19:35] < aadster> Just wondering, why's that?
[22:19:40] < aadster> Too much effort either way?
[22:19:47] <+BrandonW> No, I just hate RPGs.
[22:20:00] < aadster> I just need a nice, easy project I can try so I can understand the language enough to do what I want with it.
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[22:20:31] < aadster> Any ideas?
[22:20:37] < DarkAuron> make pong
[22:20:43] <+BrandonW> Do whatever you like.
[22:20:44] < aadster> haha
[22:20:47] <@E-J> new zkart
[22:20:48] < aadster> that's a good idea actually
[22:20:49] <+BrandonW> If you like RPGs, make one of those.
[22:20:54] < DarkAuron> ...
[22:20:54] < aadster> it shouldn't be that hard
[22:21:06] < DarkAuron> rpgs are too vast of a project for many reasons, for someone who is new to coding
[22:21:10] <@E-J> RPG needs always a story
[22:21:14] < aadster> I know it's already been done 1,000 times - but pong would help me learn
[22:21:28] < aadster> would it be hard to do in BASIC
[22:21:46] < DarkAuron> it'd be slow if you did it on the graphscreen in basic
[22:21:52] < aadster> Actually - Brandon ... I doubt I'll do an RPG now that I think about it.
[22:22:08] < aadster> I dont want too big of a beginners project.
[22:22:25] < aadster> What was your guys' first projects?
[22:22:30] <+HQAT> aadster: If ya make a pong clone and you finished it you could update it to a breakout kinda game...
[22:22:37] < DarkAuron> exactly
[22:22:53] < DarkAuron> code for pong is just one step below breakout since the mechanics are the same
[22:23:03] <+HQAT> Actually I'm working on my first asm project myself atm :P I did some simple stuff in basic before but no games...
[22:23:27] < aadster> my very first thing was a magic 8 ball thing
[22:23:31] <+HQAT> I did a pong/breakout clone in directx tho...
[22:23:35] < aadster> but i want something a bit more complex
[22:24:00] < DarkAuron> rpg requires story, characters, graphics, items, tilemapper (depending), menus, enemies, dialogue engine
[22:24:03] < DarkAuron> graphics for pretty much all of that
[22:24:37] < aadster> yikes
[22:24:45] < DarkAuron> a battle engine too
[22:24:55] < aadster> that wouldnt work for a first project then
[22:25:19] < DarkAuron> also balance of leveling and stats, something that is also hard to do because you might make it too easy or too hard, or too repetitive
[22:25:24] < aadster> I just don't know what I should do...everything i WANT to do requires Asm and its a little hard for me to understand
[22:25:40] < i_c-Y> then suffer and learn it.
[22:25:40] <+HQAT> You could remake monopoly (Just a random idea) might be a bit more orginal...
[22:25:52] < DarkAuron> monopoly is still a bit complicated for someone new
[22:26:01] <+BrandonW> My first BASIC game was on the homescreen, where you were an O and you jumped on top of Xs and stuff, and they'd shoot at you and you could shoot back...it had no story whatsoever, but it's something to do.
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[22:28:34] < aadster> I wouldnt even know where to start in making a pong clone
[22:28:49] <+HQAT> Reading asm in 28 days? :P
[22:29:05] < aadster> I was, then started on BASIC tutorials
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[22:32:57] <+Sir_Lewk> RAAAWWWRRR!!!!
[22:33:27] <+Sir_Lewk> tremble in fear mortals
[22:33:44] < aadster> no u
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[22:37:04] <+bsparks> hmm....
[22:37:21] <+bsparks> I wish xLIB had a way to display a sprite that was bigger than 96x64
[22:37:47] <+bsparks> like, idk, 384x128
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[22:45:21]  * SirRaptor devours bsparks
[22:49:00] <+SirRaptor> WHO DARE CHALLENGE ME!?!
[22:49:29] <+Nikky> ...?
[22:49:35] <@E-J> http://mikeandmotoko.com/About_Japan.jpg
[22:50:00]  * SirRaptor squashes Nikky
[22:50:25] <+SirRaptor> E-J, blame truman, it's all the radiation
[22:50:44] <@E-J> SirRaptor: no, i blame you
[22:51:15]  * SirRaptor has rained many an A-bomb upon the world...
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[22:52:01] <+BrandonW> In Brazil, MacGyver was called "Occupation: Danger!"
[22:52:57]  * SirRaptor tears Kelly_/PatrickRo/Patrick1/Partrick11 to shreds in his serrated teeth of doom
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[22:54:00] <+SirRaptor> yeah, you better run
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[23:00:27] <@E-J> BrandonW: apparently you share my anger with then/than-people
[23:01:47] < Spengo> E-J, the their/there/they're people piss me off too
[23:04:30] <@E-J> Spengo: somehow i understand those, cause i don't speak english on my first language and those words which are said almost same but written differently are hard when you start to think in english
[23:05:04] < Spengo> yeah but native english speakers should know better
[23:05:08] <@E-J> yep
[23:10:36] < Netham45> yea
[23:10:52] < Netham45> there and they're get me sometimes
[23:12:58] <@E-J> even you?
[23:13:13] <@E-J> nah, nevermind
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[23:24:19] <+patz2009> Wow, I'm not on the "who sucks more" poll
[23:28:57] < aadster> I have a question on my BASIC program...would anyone be willing to walk me through a certain part?
[23:30:27] < Netham45> it's pretty obvious Nikky sucks the most.
[23:30:36] < Netham45> Me, Randomist, and i_c-y are tied for 2nd
[23:30:47] < Netham45> Ox40 has 3rc, and everyone else is equal at 4th
[23:31:15] <+Tari> aadster, if I can do it quick
[23:31:43] < Netham45> aadster, if you desctibe your problem, people will help you.
[23:32:06] < aadster> ok
[23:32:19] < aadster> im working on a simple pong clone using the homescreen
[23:32:27] < aadster> with Dark's help I was able to code
[23:32:31] < aadster> 3  ->  Y
[23:32:31] < aadster> 3  ->  Z
[23:32:31] < aadster> 0  ->  K: While K!=45
[23:32:31] < aadster> getKey   ->   K
[23:32:31] < aadster> If (K=25) and (Y>1)
[23:32:32] < aadster> Then
[23:32:32] < aadster> Y-1   ->   Y
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[23:32:42] <+patz2009> n00b
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[23:32:48] < aadster> sorry
[23:32:48] < Netham45> aadster, pastebin.ca
[23:32:53] < aadster> whats that
[23:32:57] < Netham45> >.<
[23:33:00] < aadster> well, anyway - that's what I coded
[23:33:05] < Netham45> it lets you paste it onto a website
[23:33:08] < aadster> but now I need to get a ball moving around the screen.
[23:33:26] < aadster> Dark said to use xmove and ymove and four variables, etc
[23:33:36] < aadster> but I need someone to analyze that and explain how to do it.
[23:33:40] < aadster> sorry about the flood
[23:33:54] <@E-J> aadster: http://tcpa.calcg.org/pointless.html there is one about that thing
[23:34:01] <@E-J> "Hey, I have code I want you guys to see.
[23:34:01] <@E-J> It's great that you're asking us for help! Before you do, please make sure you use a paste site like Rafb to store your code.
[23:34:04] <@E-J> "
[23:34:48] < aadster> sorry guys
[23:34:58] < aadster> i know it was dumb
[23:35:23] <@E-J> Nikky: why there is no hunterkll/kagura on poll?
[23:35:29] <@E-J> can't vote
[23:35:39] < aadster> http://pastebin.ca/925382
[23:35:41] < aadster> thats mine
[23:35:58] < Netham45> E-J, I made the poll.
[23:37:49] <@E-J> Netham45: then i ask same question from you
[23:38:03] < Netham45> because he wasn't in the discussion we were having at the time I made it.
[23:39:46] < aadster> Netham
[23:39:49] < aadster> did you see it?
[23:39:53] < aadster> What about you Tari
[23:41:05] < aadster> updated
[23:41:06] < aadster> http://pastebin.ca/925385
[23:45:42] <+BrandonW> If you want things to be happening while you're waiting for a keypress, have them in the main loop.
[23:45:52] <+BrandonW> So every iteration, change the position of the ball.
[23:46:12] <+BrandonW> If that's happening too fast, then use a variable as a counter.
[23:46:23] <+BrandonW> And then, say, every time it hits 100, change the position.
[23:46:27] < aadster> Sorry...could you give me an example?
[23:47:21] <+BrandonW> Put 0->A:0->B or whatever at the top, those can be the ball coordinates. In the main While loop, add A+1->A in there, and also draw the ball position along with yourself.
[23:47:41] <+BrandonW> The ball will keep moving in a line while it's waiting for your keypress.
[23:47:55] <+BrandonW> When it hits the edge of the screen, have it go the other way.
[23:48:01] < aadster> ok
[23:48:07] < aadster> I'm not sure how to do that at the moment...
[23:48:56] <+BrandonW> Use another variable as the counter, then...start it out at 1, and have "A+T->A" in the main loop (where T is the counter)...when you hit the edge, change T to -1.
[23:49:08] <+BrandonW> And then when you hit the other edge, change it back to 1.
[23:49:10] <+BrandonW> And so on.
[23:49:19] <+BrandonW> Then it'll keep moving back and forth in a line.
[23:50:45] <+BrandonW> That's where the physics would be if you want it to be realistic.
[23:50:56] <+BrandonW> You could have whether it's 1 or -1 be completely random, like for a stupid enemy.
[23:51:03] <+BrandonW> Or you can have it try to follow you.
[23:51:06] <+BrandonW> Or whatever.
[23:51:24] <+BrandonW> Depends on what you want.
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[23:56:57] < aadster> Brandon - If you don't mind - could you update my pastebin with some code that would move the ball? I've tried a few things but it's not working...
[23:57:16] <+BrandonW> I really feel like crap and I think I'm going to lay down.
[23:57:20] <+BrandonW> But benryves here can help.
[23:57:52] < aadster> haha
[23:57:52] < aadster> ok
[23:58:01] <@benryves> Lies. ¬_¬
[23:58:07] < aadster> If he would be so kind? :p
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[23:58:48] <@benryves> Without a link to the previous paste I can't really, can I? :P
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