--- Log opened Sat Mar 01 00:00:28 2008
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[00:11:09] <@efneTI86> [Merthsoft] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
[00:11:24] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Merthsoft] by etaonrish
[00:14:11]  * tifreak wonders if brandon is around...
[00:16:03] < Spengo> oh good grief
[00:16:17] < Nikky> hmm?
[00:16:18] < Spengo> there's a couple down the hall that are being REALLY LOUD
[00:16:30] < Nikky> so?
[00:16:45] < Spengo> so all the unfing is annoying
[00:17:09] < Nikky> I don't see a problem here
[00:17:55] < Spengo> the problem is that the hard rock music they are blasting to try and drown it out is also annoying
[00:21:37] < Spengo> hey
[00:21:44] < Spengo> does anyone in here understand this calendar program? http://rafb.net/p/VQv4Fn44.html
[00:21:52] < Spengo> it is a few characters longer than mine but it is fancier
[00:22:01] < Nikky> `ure do
[00:22:05] < Spengo> also I can't get it to compile
[00:22:09] < Spengo> I must have copied something from the board wrong
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[00:22:17] < Spengo> but since I don't know wtf is going on I can't debug it :(
[00:23:04] < Spengo> for(d=0;++d<31+(m==2?-2=m%2^m>7);) this is what causes the trouble
[00:23:19] < Nikky> yeah, um
[00:23:26] < Nikky> give me six hours to learn whatever language that is
[00:23:31] < Spengo> C
[00:23:40] < Spengo> note it is pasted as C++ :P
[00:23:54] < Spengo> Pasted as C++ by asdf is the first line
[00:24:02] < Nikky> that will be difficult
[00:24:07] < Nikky> I am ready for the challenge
[00:25:36]  * Randomist wonders if it's possible to combine a whole bunch of SoundFont II files into one.
[00:25:37] <+Merthsoft> Spengo: what's the error?
[00:25:45] < Spengo> I don't know
[00:25:48] < Spengo> that's the problem
[00:25:51] <+Merthsoft> it just doesn't compile?
[00:26:06] < Spengo> 1>c:\documents and settings\spengo\my documents\visual studio 2008\projects\testcal\testcal\testcal.cpp(13) : error C2106: '=' : left operand must be l-value
[00:26:06] < Spengo> 1>c:\documents and settings\spengo\my documents\visual studio 2008\projects\testcal\testcal\testcal.cpp(13) : error C2143: syntax error : missing ',' before ')'
[00:26:06] < Spengo> 1>c:\documents and settings\spengo\my documents\visual studio 2008\projects\testcal\testcal\testcal.cpp(13) : error C2143: syntax error : missing ';' before ')'
[00:26:07] < Randomist> OpenMPT can only have up to 100 SoundFont banks at once, and I have almost 3k.
[00:26:39] < Spengo> and a warning of course for using bitwise XOR
[00:26:42] < Spengo> it hates that
[00:26:44] < Spengo> hehe
[00:26:55] < Spengo> that works though
[00:27:14] < Spengo> I think I just copied something down wrong
[00:29:15] <+Merthsoft> (m==2?-2=m%2^m>7) needs a colon somewhere
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[00:43:00] < HQAT> Hmm spengo I think I got it to work... and understand most of it... but I have no idea what the getchar input is used for...
[00:43:11] < Spengo> neither do I
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[00:46:14] < Spengo> do you know what to do to make it compile?
[00:46:41] < HQAT> I added a colon here... (as merthsoft already hinted) (m==2?-2:m%2^m>7)
[00:47:39] < HQAT> Ah i think i know what that getchar does
[00:47:47] < Spengo> oh
[00:47:58] < HQAT> It lets you input the first day of the year... so 1 = sunday, 2 = monday etc
[00:48:00] < HQAT> lemme test it though
[00:48:49] < HQAT> Yep thats what it does :P
[00:48:57] < BrandonW> I am, in fact, around.
[00:49:14] < HQAT> But it starts couting from 0... so 0 = sun, 1 = mon, 2 = tue etc
[00:49:38] < Spengo> ah
[00:49:49] < Spengo> yeah my program does that too
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[00:51:02] <@efneTI86> [DSPLord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
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[01:08:11] < Barrett> why is a 44 minute delay so important for daily cronjobs?
[01:08:26] < Barrett> what would be so bad about them running right when I tell them to run?
[01:08:47] < Barrett> (i'm referring to this 000-delay.cron script)
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[01:09:53] < BrandonW> Don't you ever google for answers to your questions instead of asking us?
[01:10:00] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v simonzack] by efneTI92
[01:10:00] < Barrett> yes, and I did
[01:10:00] < BrandonW> I don't even know what you're talking about and I found it: 
[01:10:01] < BrandonW> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/cron-file-000-delay.cron-it-is-on-my-fc5-what-is-the-purpose-535518/
[01:10:09] < BrandonW> Seriously, try harder.
[01:10:41] < Spengo> google wins
[01:10:44] < HQAT> Btw brandon... do you happen to know if the code to interface with prettyprint was ever released? It is used in symbolic but not included in the public source code (atleast I cant find it)...
[01:11:03] < BrandonW> I have no idea. You do know I'm not Brandon Sterner, right?
[01:11:20] < HQAT> Yeah but you are at the ds team also right?
[01:11:30] <+simonzack> ds team?
[01:11:36] <+simonzack> nds?
[01:11:38] < BrandonW> Yes, joined long after that application was over and done with.
[01:11:42] < BrandonW> No, Detached Solutions.
[01:11:43] < Barrett> simonzack: detached solutions
[01:11:48] < BrandonW> http://www.detachedsolutions.com/
[01:11:48] <+simonzack> ok
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[01:12:23] <+simonzack> the contest page is old
[01:12:24] < HQAT> Hmm k... the website for prettyprint seems to be offline as well... 
[01:12:40] < BrandonW> Thanks for reminding us, simonzack.
[01:13:07] <+simonzack> no problem
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[01:13:59] <+tifreak> brandon, see the previews for the SG1 moive yet??
[01:14:06] < BrandonW> I saw one long ago.
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[01:15:28] < Randomist> "'Cause it doesn't make any difference to me; / If it's a grain of sand, / Or if it's a human being."  -- Should that semicolon be there or should that be a "--" or a comma?
[01:16:11] < Barrett> Randomist
[01:16:18] < Barrett> look at the first word in that whole thing
[01:16:28] < Barrett> are you really concerned about punctuation?
[01:16:38] < BrandonW> He had an apostrophe.
[01:16:40] <+tifreak> ah, well they are playin it like every other break now XD
[01:16:40] < BrandonW> Do you know nothign at all?
[01:16:44] < Barrett> but it should not be a semicolon
[01:16:50] < Barrett> a semicolon separates two complete clauses
[01:17:06] < BrandonW> tifreak, I once again forgot Atlantis was coming on.
[01:17:20] <+tifreak> o.O
[01:17:25] < Barrett> if you can't replace it with a period, it shouldn't be a semicolon
[01:17:33] <+tifreak> well.. guess it was a good thing I sorta reminded you XD
[01:17:47] < Barrett> now.. as to what it should be, I have no idea
[01:17:52] < BrandonW> None of it forms a complete sentence. But based on other lyrics I've seen, I would say comma.
[01:18:53] < HQAT> Hmm nm I found the routine :P It was between al the trig functions for some reason...
[01:18:55] < Randomist> The line before it is "They belive that I have a heart of stone,"
[01:19:30] < BrandonW> The last two lines don't form sentences. Comma.
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[01:22:45] < Barrett> Randomist: if you aren't sure about punctuation, and there should be a pause... just use ... (that way you know that it is incorrect... but this way no one will point it out)
[01:22:58] < Hunterkll> hahaha
[01:23:03] < Barrett> (since it's so wrong and just casual)
[01:23:40] <+simonzack> no grammar nazis :P
[01:23:54] < BrandonW> He asked a question and he was answering it.
[01:24:04] < Barrett> if you use something else and it turns out that it's wrong, people will see that you were trying and will be much more likely to point it out
[01:24:21] < Spengo> KILL KILL ROLL ROLL!!
[01:24:31] < BrandonW> You seem to be concerned with people pointing it out.
[01:24:40] <+simonzack> no
[01:24:45] <+simonzack> who cares?
[01:24:56] < BrandonW> No what?
[01:25:00] < BrandonW> I was talking to Barrett.
[01:25:12] < BrandonW> No one cares that you don't care.
[01:25:21] < BrandonW> That's going to be my response from now on to "who cares?"
[01:25:22] < Barrett> no one cares that no one cares that he doesn't care
[01:25:48] < Barrett> oh, BrandonW: did you read my idea about the TI-89 irc bot?
[01:25:54]  * tifreak has a new insult for people now ^^
[01:25:55] < BrandonW> No.
[01:26:16] < Nikky> I don't care
[01:26:28] < BrandonW> About anybody?
[01:27:03] <+simonzack> what's the irc bot for?
[01:27:32] < Nikky> ?
[01:27:37] < Nikky> WHich bot?
[01:27:45] < BrandonW> Are you paying attention?
[01:27:53] < BrandonW> Barrett just mentioned an 89 IRC bot.
[01:27:55] < Nikky> yes
[01:27:55] < BrandonW> Which is pointless.
[01:27:56] < Nikky> I know
[01:27:59] < BrandonW> So I'd imagine he was asking the point of that.
[01:28:00] < Nikky> Ithink it's a good idea
[01:28:06] < BrandonW> I think you're an idiot.
[01:28:20] < Nikky> I thik you're
[01:28:21] < Nikky> :(
[01:28:31] <+simonzack> wtf?
[01:28:38] < BrandonW> He was proving my point.
[01:29:04]  * Nikky is not an idiot
[01:29:14] < BrandonW> Ooh, look, he can use /me.
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[01:29:19] < BrandonW> That's proof right there.
[01:29:29]  * Barrett so can
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[01:29:58] < Nikky> Let's be cool together Barrett 
[01:30:18] < BrandonW> Being an idiot is cool?
[01:30:28] < Barrett> ok Nikky
[01:30:44] <+simonzack> i think being cool=idiots
[01:30:54] < BrandonW> Are you emo?
[01:30:58] < BrandonW> Goth?
[01:31:00] <+simonzack> you're emo
[01:31:04] < Nikky> ywa
[01:31:15] < BrandonW> Ywa what?
[01:31:21] < Nikky> yes
[01:31:26] < BrandonW> Yes what?
[01:31:33]  * patz2009 wants to know what kind of developments there has been in the calc community
[01:31:39] <+simonzack> nothing
[01:31:47] < BrandonW> Since when?
[01:32:46] <+simonzack> what's good about bots?
[01:32:52] <+simonzack> to anoy people?
[01:33:02] <+simonzack> ban when they join?
[01:33:03] < BrandonW> They don't annoy...
[01:33:06] < BrandonW> They sit there and do nothing.
[01:33:14] < BrandonW> They enforce bans.
[01:33:18] < BrandonW> Allow certain people kicking.
[01:33:22] < BrandonW> And channel topic changing.
[01:33:25] < BrandonW> And logging.
[01:33:28] < BrandonW> And other stuff, I'm sure.
[01:33:45] <+simonzack> allow certain people kicking's weird
[01:33:51] <+simonzack> needs to be staff
[01:33:55] <+simonzack> bots!=staff
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[01:33:58] < Barrett> simonzack: would you like a demo of this feature?
[01:34:03] < Nikky> staff of what?
[01:34:03] <+simonzack> no
[01:34:04] < BrandonW> Unlike Omnimaga, not everything is "staff."
[01:34:08] < BrandonW> This is just a channel.
[01:34:12] < Nikky> we don't have any "staff"
[01:34:13] < BrandonW> Nothing more, nothing less.
[01:34:39] <+simonzack> anyone can kick?
[01:34:40] <+simonzack> omg
[01:34:43] < Nikky> no
[01:34:47] < BrandonW> No...
[01:34:53] < BrandonW> I just said, it allows for certain people to kick.
[01:34:55] < BrandonW> Responsible ones.
[01:35:04] <+simonzack> yeah, they're 'staff'
[01:35:04] < Barrett> BrandonW... I can kick...
[01:35:10] < Barrett> are you calling me responsible?
[01:35:11] < Nikky> people who are not voiced generally can kick
[01:35:19] < Nikky> I'm responsible!
[01:35:20] < BrandonW> This is not a forum or group, there is no "staff."
[01:35:30] < BrandonW> These are not real jobs.
[01:35:32] < BrandonW> It's just people.
[01:35:34] <+simonzack> s*, just a name
[01:35:40] < Nikky> besides, do you really want netham kicking because he's staff?
[01:36:03] <+simonzack> bots aren't responsible
[01:36:10] <+simonzack> how could they kick other than hacking?
[01:36:25] < BrandonW> Hacking? What are you talking about?
[01:36:29] < BrandonW> Bots are just programs...we tell them what to do.
[01:37:00] < Nikky> simonzack: these are not botserv bots but actually eggdrop bots
[01:37:05] < Nikky> that we run independent of the network
[01:37:23] <+simonzack> ok
[01:38:32] < Barrett> is there any way to trick warcraft1 into thinking that it is in full screen mode?
[01:39:08] <+simonzack> warcraft1 sucks
[01:39:15] < Barrett> !k simonzack disrespect
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[01:39:22] <+tifreak> lol
[01:39:23] < BrandonW> What the hell was that for?
[01:39:28] < HQAT> What does "OUT (6), A" do? Does it set the active flash page or somethn?
[01:39:35] < BrandonW> We're trying to project ourselves as a responsible group of kickers.
[01:39:38] < BrandonW> You, sir, are not responsible.
[01:39:41] <+tifreak> are you back to working on the 68k port again barrett?
[01:39:44] < BrandonW> Ones who never kick except to keep order.
[01:39:53] < BrandonW> And by "order", I mean not excessive spamming.
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[01:39:59] < BrandonW> And stuff that seriously hampers channel communication.
[01:40:07] < simonzack> sorry
[01:40:09] < Nikky> Sorry about that simonzack 
[01:40:10] < Nikky> :(
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[01:40:13] < BrandonW> HQAT, yes, that's what it does. Works with RAM pages, too. It's bank 1, 4000h-7FFFh.
[01:40:21] < BrandonW> Yes, Barrett shouldn't have kicked you.
[01:40:48] < HQAT> K gracias...
[01:41:09] < Barrett> I told you that I was not responsible
[01:41:11] < Barrett> I never claimed to be
[01:41:47] <+tifreak> hehe
[01:43:04] <+simonzack> :S
[01:46:32] < Nikky> :)
[01:46:43] < BrandonW> Yes, we like to give random people powers here.
[01:46:49] < BrandonW> People who really don't deserve them.
[01:46:56] < BrandonW> The crazier you are, the higher up you go.
[01:47:00] < BrandonW> It's quite odd.
[01:47:05] < Barrett> BrandonW: that was definitely not the worst reason for kicking someone that has happened in this channel
[01:47:24] < BrandonW> No, but that doesn't change the fact that you shouldn't be able to.
[01:47:26] < Barrett> 75% of kicks are completely meaningless
[01:47:40] < BrandonW> I don't care how it is.
[01:47:42] < BrandonW> I care about how it should be.
[01:47:45] < Spengo> should try to make that a lot smaller methinks
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[01:48:10] <+tifreak> ok, so I should get kick power too :P
[01:48:13] <+tifreak> lol
[01:48:23]  * patz2009 is a responsible kicker
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[01:48:32] <+tifreak> i rarely kick :/
[01:48:44] <+patz2009> Yeah, Mr. Banhammer.
[01:48:48] <+patz2009> You never kick.
[01:48:58] <+simonzack> lol
[01:49:05] <+tifreak> >:D
[01:49:31] <+simonzack> sorry
[01:49:42] < BrandonW> For what?
[01:49:46] < Spengo> ban ban ban ban banstick
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[01:49:55] <+simonzack> bantrout
[01:50:00] < BrandonW> What is that?
[01:50:17] <+tifreak> gah... this is suffering, making us wait for the 11th... <.<
[01:50:25] < Spengo> what's on the 11th?
[01:50:32] < BrandonW> SG-1 movie. It's best not to think about it.
[01:50:34] < Barrett> anyway BrandonW: I know that most of your work is on calculators themselves, but how difficult would it be to make a CLI to a calculator emulator?
[01:50:37] <+tifreak> SG1 movie comes out..
[01:50:41] < Spengo> oh
[01:50:44] < Barrett> (input strings and get the output from the homescreen)
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[01:51:04] <@efneTI86> [Captain_A] Censored
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[01:51:22] < BrandonW> You type inside a tool and it sends what you typed to the calculator's homescreen to be evaluated, and it sends the answer back to the tool?
[01:51:44] <+tifreak> BSG final season?! o.O I figured it would go for several more..
[01:51:54] < Barrett> BrandonW: correct
[01:52:00] < Spengo> they pretty much are command line
[01:52:01] < Barrett> command line style
[01:52:10] < Spengo> except for the ones that have basic drop down menus and stuff
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[01:52:28] < Barrett> well, Spengo, using the GUI itself would be difficult for an eggdrop bot
[01:52:37] < Spengo> oh
[01:52:49] < BrandonW> I have never dealt with communicating with an emulator process on a PC, but seeing as how we can send and receive files, you could write a homescreen/parser/silent link hook that would accept commands from the "link", parse them, and "send" them back.
[01:52:59] < Spengo> well the z80s are pretty much completely command line
[01:53:05] < BrandonW> So if you can get a minimal program going where you can communicate with the link port, it's do-able.
[01:53:14] <+Captain_A> I just found out today that you can do all of the trig functions on the nspire 
[01:53:28] <+simonzack> scs?
[01:53:29] <+Captain_A> WOuld have been useful a while back
[01:53:32] < BrandonW> Anything more than that, and you might as well just rewrite the emulator.
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[01:53:45] <+patz2009> needz moar haxxorz
[01:53:45] < BrandonW> And as long as you're doing that, just use the emulator core in your command line tool.
[01:54:01] < BrandonW> And as long as you're doing that, re-evaluate why the hell you'd want to do that.
[01:54:07] <+Nikky> I can do trig in my head
[01:54:13] < BrandonW> Is it to do exactly what the calculator does, on a PC?
[01:54:25] <+simonzack> what's sin(sin(sin(7?
[01:54:38] <+Nikky> .23
[01:54:41] < Barrett> BrandonW: it would be for use in IRC
[01:54:42] <+Captain_A> Nikky, what is the cosecant of x
[01:54:51] <+simonzack> wrong! 
[01:54:56] < BrandonW> 3.712349694*10^-5.
[01:54:59] < Barrett> a good addition/replacement for calc
[01:55:00] <+Nikky> Captain_A: -.4
[01:55:07] <+simonzack> it's rad
[01:55:26] < Barrett> BrandonW: I think the main use would be showing people how to do stuff on their calculators
[01:55:31] < Barrett> a lot of people have trouble with syntax
[01:55:36] <+Captain_A> Nikky, you forgot to carry the 7
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[01:55:54] < Barrett> so you just do !89 solve(0=x^2+2x-3,x)
[01:55:59] <+patz2009> DSP_Lord: Fix your intarwebz!
[01:56:08] <+simonzack> ti89 can't do x^3
[01:56:09] <+simonzack> it's shit
[01:56:13] < BrandonW> The 89 doesn't have hooks like the z80 series.
[01:56:16] <+simonzack> can the nspire do that?
[01:56:30] <+Nikky> nspire sucks
[01:56:32] < BrandonW> You actually think the 89 can't calculate x^3?
[01:56:36] < BrandonW> That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
[01:56:38] < BrandonW> And the Nspire is shit.
[01:56:40] < Barrett> BrandonW: TIGCC is able to run programs automatically via link cable (and even VTI)
[01:56:41] < BrandonW> Take it from me, I have one.
[01:56:43] <+simonzack> no, solve (x^3+...=0)
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[01:57:06] < tifreak79> finally..
[01:57:08] <+simonzack> can it do that?
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[01:57:10] <+Captain_A> Pretty sure it can simonzack 
[01:57:12] <+simonzack> not accurately
[01:57:20] < BrandonW> You say that because you have the Nspire CAS.
[01:57:27] <+Captain_A> Indeed
[01:57:32] <+simonzack> great
[01:57:38] < BrandonW> Waste of money...
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[01:57:40] <+simonzack> mathematica's better
[01:57:42] < BrandonW> Mark my words...
[01:57:50] <+simonzack> where do u get trials for mathematica?
[01:57:53] < Barrett> see, if we had an !89 feature in here we would easily be able to prove him wrong
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[01:58:17] <+Captain_A> Well how far along is your nspire hacking BrandonW ?
[01:58:28] <+Nikky> HE QUIT
[01:58:33] < HQAT> Umm does anyone know where "BJUMP _JError" returns (if at all)?
[01:58:35] <+simonzack> oh, brandonW, u the guy doin that
[01:58:44] < BrandonW> yes im the guy doin that
[01:58:47] <+patz2009> JUST FUCKING STOP JUST FUCKING STOP
[01:58:48] <+Captain_A> SO it was a waste of time to buy the Nspire Cas over non-cas how
[01:59:08] < BrandonW> Barrett, it's kind of a roundabout way, but I guess you can send and remotely execute programs which would parse it (there has to be something similar to ParseInp on the 68k's) and then return a result.
[01:59:29] < BrandonW> Because I guarantee you that one day we will convert the Nspire into a CAS. And you will be shit out of luck when you want to use the 84+ keypad.
[01:59:38] < glk> http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/US/sectionHome/download.html
[01:59:49] < BrandonW> HQAT, it doesn't return. BJUMPs don't return.
[01:59:57] <+Captain_A> No, because by the time it happens there will be a better calculator out
[02:00:00] < BrandonW> It passes control to Mon.
[02:00:14] < BrandonW> And in the meantime, use the 89 which doesn't suck.
[02:00:26] <+Nikky> 89 kicks ass
[02:00:35] < BrandonW> I have Nspire theories, but nothing has changed.
[02:00:46] <+Captain_A> The only reason I would use the 89 is for 3d graphing, but I don't really need that for anything
[02:00:56] < HQAT> Umm so before I use it I should have the stack restored to state it was in when the app started? Or would BJUMP take care of that?
[02:00:58] < BrandonW> You don't need a giant bulky calculator with no games either.
[02:01:13] < BrandonW> It doesn't matter what the stack was, it will take over.
[02:01:19] <+Captain_A> I don't play games anymore though, so it doesn't matter
[02:01:31] < BrandonW> Okay, you don't need a giant bulky calculator with no assembly programs either.
[02:01:38] < BrandonW> Or any sort of group of math programs written by people.
[02:01:39] < HQAT> Hmm k... thnx..
[02:01:45] < BrandonW> It has no community.
[02:01:47] < BrandonW> No support.
[02:01:49] < BrandonW> No nothing.
[02:02:17] < BrandonW> And I'm all in favor of boycotting it except for hacking purposes.
[02:02:22] <+Captain_A> It has some programming capabilities, but you can use the calculator for math shockingly
[02:02:30] < BrandonW> Hardly.
[02:02:34] < Barrett> are all n-spires ginormous or is there a "big" edition?
[02:02:40] <+Captain_A> all of them
[02:02:40] < BrandonW> They're all ginormous like that.
[02:02:44] < Barrett> whenever I see them at the computer store on campus it says "bigger screen"
[02:02:50] < Barrett> and they are huge
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[02:02:55] < BrandonW> Yeah, the emulated 84+ is gigantic.
[02:03:00] < BrandonW> I can't use a real 84+ after using that for a while.
[02:03:03] <+Captain_A> 320x240, its the same size as the ipod vid
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[02:03:12] < Spengo> you know if I made a calculator
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[02:03:20] <+tifreak> i might have to get one, now that my tax checks came back.. :)
[02:03:37] < Spengo> it would have a huge high-res color screen
[02:03:43] < Spengo> and it would be half the size of an 83 :P
[02:03:53] < aadster> so is an NSpire worth it? If not only for the emulator?
[02:03:59] < BrandonW> http://brandonw.net/nspire.php
[02:04:03] < aadster> and better screen
[02:04:04] < Spengo> probably with a 300MHz arm cpu
[02:04:06] < BrandonW> Finally I get to use it.
[02:04:08] <+simonzack> it'd cost 1000
[02:04:13] < Spengo> no
[02:04:15] < Spengo> it wouldn't
[02:04:20] <+simonzack> 10000
[02:04:24] < Spengo> because I would price it as the hardware deserves
[02:04:26] <+patz2009> BrandonW: LULZ.
[02:04:29] <+patz2009> Awesome page.
[02:04:31] < Kira> lol
[02:04:31] < Spengo> current calculators are ridiculously overpriced
[02:04:40] < aadster> Nspire*
[02:04:40] < Spengo> it would cost less than an 83+
[02:04:45] <+simonzack> maybe that's like a psp
[02:04:50] <+simonzack> just do some program
[02:04:51] < BrandonW> aadster, it's not worth it unless you just want to toy with it.
[02:04:52] <+simonzack> and a keypad
[02:04:57] < BrandonW> Don't even bother for serious math.
[02:04:58] <+simonzack> turn it into a calc
[02:05:01] < BrandonW> Or serious programming.
[02:05:08] < BrandonW> So basically, it's a joke.
[02:05:22] < Spengo> yeah see all the other handheld devices like PSP or nintendo DS or anything else
[02:05:23] < aadster> ok
[02:05:29] < Spengo> they have like 10x the power of a TI-89
[02:05:34] <+simonzack> 100x
[02:05:35] <+patz2009> Until BrandonW gets homebrew working on it, that is.
[02:05:43] < Spengo> no, not quite 100x
[02:05:47] <+Captain_A> It is fine
[02:06:10] < Kira> http://edition.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/11/21/hairball.case/index.html
[02:06:14] <+Captain_A> If you like simplicity then stick with the 84 series though
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[02:06:30] < BrandonW> And if not, go with the 89.
[02:06:35] < BrandonW> But never the Nspire.
[02:06:55] <+simonzack> the voyae 200 more like a gba
[02:06:55] <+Captain_A> Right, go with the Nspire CAS :D
[02:07:06] <+simonzack> go with the manufactures
[02:07:13] <+simonzack> that's where things are priced right
[02:07:28] < Spengo> no
[02:07:34] < Spengo> voyage 200 is the same specs as the 89 titanium
[02:07:35] <+simonzack> ?
[02:07:44] <+simonzack> yes
[02:07:45] < Spengo> it just has a different keyboard layout and wide screen
[02:08:03] < BrandonW> Different hardware version.
[02:08:04] < BrandonW> And no USB.
[02:08:19] < glk> I have information on the TI-89. Ask if interested.
[02:08:33] < BrandonW> Let me be more specific...
[02:08:36] <+simonzack> how much yours?
[02:08:37] < Spengo> gba has a 32-bit arm
[02:08:40] < BrandonW> He has information on using the 89's OS and BASIC capabilities.
[02:08:45] < Spengo> only 16MHz or something like that
[02:08:45] < BrandonW> For math.
[02:08:46] <+simonzack> no, i mean games
[02:08:59] <+simonzack> it's bigger
[02:09:06] <+simonzack> and more keys, feel good
[02:09:20] <+tifreak> brandon, you should so make a stargate dialing simulator for the 83+
[02:09:21] <+tifreak> :P
[02:09:30] < Spengo> I don't buy calculators for games lol
[02:09:41] < BrandonW> Not good enough graphics.
[02:10:01] < BrandonW> Anything less than color perfection as seen in the show is no good.
[02:10:08] <+tifreak> bah...
[02:10:13] <+tifreak> it would still be fun to have... :/
[02:10:16] < Spengo> I like the games that are there
[02:10:26] <+tifreak> did you get the link i pmed you?
[02:10:32] <+Captain_A> Anyone like the show Heroes?
[02:10:35] < Spengo> but it's primary purpose is math
[02:10:38] < BrandonW> haha, herotard.
[02:10:41] <+simonzack> no
[02:10:46] <+simonzack> that's what mathematica does
[02:10:55] <+simonzack> calcs primary purpose is conveniance
[02:10:58] < Spengo> see now
[02:11:00] < BrandonW> tifreak, yes, and I forgot for the SECOND TIME to send you a check.
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[02:11:10] <+tifreak> lol
[02:11:17] <+tifreak> do it when you can :P
[02:11:17] < Spengo> a handheld device with mathmatica or something similar would be ideal
[02:11:28] < BrandonW> It's been a rough week.
[02:11:29] < Spengo> THAT is what a calculator should be
[02:11:50] <+simonzack> do u have it?
[02:11:54] <+simonzack> where did u get it?
[02:12:00] <+simonzack> trial=>hacks?
[02:12:05] < BrandonW> He's a pirate.
[02:12:32] <+simonzack> great!
[02:12:36] <+simonzack> where's the trial?
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[02:12:57] < Spengo> wait what are we talking about?
[02:12:58] < Barrett> would it be very difficult to get the current state of a running program with another program? (current state meaning a memory dump of the program itself)
[02:13:04] <+tifreak> ah, sick, or work/school related, brandon?
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[02:13:25] < BrandonW> Starting to get sick today, and rough work week. 8AM-12AM/1AM days.
[02:13:38] <+tifreak> >.<
[02:13:51] < BrandonW> Barrett, if you're thinking of an emulator, yes.
[02:14:26] < Barrett> because I'm sure that the content of the home screen is likely stored unencrypted somewhere
[02:14:31] <+simonzack> why?
[02:14:39] < BrandonW> Yes, of course it would be in RAM.
[02:14:47] <+simonzack> oh, ok, it could be stored anywhere
[02:14:59] < BrandonW> One, you'll need to know exactly where it is, and when to get it.
[02:15:10] < BrandonW> You need a calculator counterpart.
[02:15:29] < Barrett> well, I'm hoping to control it enough so that the location is predictable (clear the home screen when it finishes, etc...)
[02:15:56] < BrandonW> It doesn't matter where it is on the LCD.
[02:16:03] < BrandonW> I don't think you have the ability to write this.
[02:16:29] < Barrett> right, but the entire home screen will be in memory somewhere... and more stuff might make it more difficult to locate the most recent entry
[02:17:41] < Barrett> when I say home screen I mean all of the stuff that you can access on the home screen, not the LCD
[02:18:05] <+simonzack> the string?
[02:18:06] < Barrett> (for example, the (default of) 30 entries for the ti-89
[02:18:21] <+simonzack> ask kevin kofler
[02:18:23] < Barrett> simonzack: mostly string with some markup, i would assume
[02:18:44] <+simonzack> nah, just the estack
[02:18:54] <+simonzack> more like a stack with a string
[02:19:00] < Barrett> also, there is a very very slim chance that I will take this on myself... I'm mainly hoping that someone else will like the idea enough to do it themselves ;)
[02:19:11] <+simonzack> ask kevin
[02:19:13] <+Captain_A> That blows, the local college doesn't offer squat math wise
[02:19:15] < BrandonW> 68k people aren't crazy.
[02:19:35] < BrandonW> "ask kevin"? To write a PC and 89 assembly program to interface with each other?
[02:19:47] < BrandonW> Kevin Kofler?
[02:19:48] < Barrett> I'd assume that if you know what you're doing that it wouldn't be that difficult of a project... the only problem is that I have never done anything like this before
[02:19:53] < BrandonW> He would just call you crazy and ban you.
[02:20:02] <+simonzack> guess so
[02:20:19] <+simonzack> no, but the home screen
[02:20:22] <+tifreak> nobody likes kofler... XD
[02:20:23] <+Captain_A> haha I am banned from there
[02:20:29] < BrandonW> And Kofler doesn't like anybody.
[02:20:34] <+Captain_A> I called him hitler or something like that
[02:20:39] <+tifreak> yeah, I have gathered that...
[02:20:46] < Barrett> he seemed nice when I went to his nspire channel that one time
[02:20:54] <+simonzack> yep, to me too
[02:21:01] < BrandonW> Yeah, I went to the Nspire channel and he talked down to me about the 83+ which he knows NOTHING about.
[02:21:03] <+tifreak> though I have never been able to find him on any network he may reside on...
[02:21:18] < BrandonW> The man's ego is mind-bogglign.
[02:21:21] < BrandonW> mind-boggling.*
[02:21:25] <+tifreak> yeah
[02:21:52] <+tifreak> he is the one making ti-gcc... like he is the most important person ever
[02:21:56]  * patz2009 slaps patz2009
[02:22:35] < Barrett> is ticalc.org down?
[02:22:43] <+simonzack> no!
[02:22:46] < BrandonW> It is for me.
[02:22:56] < Barrett> dang, I guess everyone just has to use calcg.org instead
[02:22:59] < BrandonW> Besides, we all know I'm the most important person ever.
[02:23:00] <+tifreak> i am not connecting...
[02:23:00] <+simonzack> god, it is
[02:23:14] <+tifreak> that is almost.. scary.. o.O
[02:23:16] < Barrett> BrandonW: if you successfully crack the nspire, I will agree with that statement
[02:23:28] <+simonzack> what statement?
[02:23:31] <+tifreak> brandon: you will need to make that simulator first...
[02:23:34] <+tifreak> :P
[02:23:36] < Barrett> (crack meaning "get assembly programs running on the non-84+ keypad")
[02:23:43] <+Captain_A> no
[02:23:48] <+Captain_A> physically break
[02:23:50] < BrandonW> People will demand nothing less than C on that thing, which is where I lose interest. If I break it, I'll release it to the right people and that's the end for me.
[02:23:50] < Barrett> and by "on" I mean "when it is attached"
[02:23:51] <+Captain_A> its quite sturdy
[02:24:17] <+tifreak> wow. ticalc has been pwned...
[02:24:29] <+simonzack> how in the world
[02:24:32] <+simonzack> this is big news
[02:24:39] < BrandonW> No.
[02:24:42] < BrandonW> It DOES go down sometimes.
[02:24:42] <+tifreak> maybe someone didn't pay the bill... XD
[02:24:44] < BrandonW> It happens.
[02:24:48] < Barrett> simonzack: ticalc.org goes down quite often
[02:24:54] <+patz2009> =[
[02:25:03] <+simonzack> +S
[02:25:09] < Hunterkll> imma start an internet radio show about tech
[02:25:18] < Hunterkll> who wants to join?
[02:25:22] <+simonzack> me?
[02:25:39] <+simonzack> what's it about?
[02:25:47] <+simonzack> specifically?
[02:25:49] < Hunterkll> tech
[02:25:52] < Hunterkll> in general
[02:26:12] < BrandonW> Who here cares about Hunterkll's internet radio show about "tech"?
[02:26:14] <+tifreak> ben seems to be making slow, steady progress on calc.org...
[02:26:19] < Barrett> I do.
[02:26:22] < Hunterkll> heh
[02:26:25] < BrandonW> You don't count.
[02:26:29] < Barrett> good point
[02:26:35] < Hunterkll> lol
[02:26:48] < Barrett> Special thanks to Reilly Miller and Barrett Anderson for getting the program database together
[02:26:53] < Barrett> best line on the page
[02:27:04] < BrandonW> So basically, he's done nothing and it's j ust you.
[02:27:08] < BrandonW> Because that's all it is, a database.
[02:27:08] <+simonzack> program database?
[02:27:11] <+simonzack> on calc.org
[02:27:21] < Barrett> eh... he made the website part of it
[02:27:32] < BrandonW> Yes, he's good at "under construction" pages.
[02:27:33] < BrandonW> But no real work.
[02:27:39] <+tifreak> he is working on a forum right now
[02:27:42] < BrandonW> He'll prove himself to me when he really finishes the site.
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[02:28:31] <+tifreak> lol McKay
[02:29:14] <+simonzack> u mean make more efficient scripts, and the good fonts?
[02:29:30] < BrandonW> I mean restore calc.org to its former glory.
[02:29:31] <+simonzack> there should be a forum
[02:29:39] <+simonzack> i haven't seen that before
[02:29:43] <+simonzack> :(
[02:30:03] <+simonzack> are there any mirrors?
[02:30:08] < BrandonW> http://archive.org/
[02:30:20] < BrandonW> Look at http://www.dimension-ti.org/
[02:30:52] <+simonzack> nope
[02:31:05] <+simonzack> no server
[02:31:09] < Barrett> http://web.archive.org/web/19991009104518/http://dimension-ti.org/
[02:31:46] <+simonzack> ok, sorry
[02:32:40] <+tifreak> brb
[02:32:45] < HQAT> Bah why didn't that prettyprint guy just release his source code... I don't understand crap about how to pass the expression to it... And the symbolic code is commented like crap as well...
[02:33:09] < HQAT> All it does is give me some lame argument errors :P
[02:33:18] <+simonzack> that's calc.org?
[02:33:29] < BrandonW> Dimension-TI became calc.org.
[02:33:38] <+simonzack> ok
[02:33:43] <+simonzack> 1999, wow long time
[02:33:48] < BrandonW> HQAT, just disassemble PrettyPrint.
[02:33:57] < Barrett> http://web.archive.org/web/20010417031936/http://www.calc.org/
[02:34:15] < Barrett> that's when the site didn't suck
[02:34:25] < Barrett> although that logo doesn't seem very familiar to me
[02:34:43] < BrandonW> Me neither.
[02:35:02] <+simonzack> how long you've been on ti?
[02:35:03] < Barrett> it seems to change throughout 2001
[02:35:15] < BrandonW> How long we've been on TI?
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[02:35:31] < HQAT> I'm trying but I suck at it reverse engineering :P It just weird... maybe I'll try again tomorrow... its 3:37 am here...
[02:35:41] < Barrett> http://web.archive.org/web/20010309113023/http://www.calc.org/  << that's the site as I remember it
[02:35:59] < Barrett> I'm not old enough to remember it when it was called dimension-ti, though
[02:36:07] < BrandonW> That was a pretty site.
[02:36:12] < BrandonW> At least it did to my idiotic younger self.
[02:36:24] < BrandonW> it looked that way to*
[02:36:39] < BrandonW> It was mostly dark.
[02:36:43] < BrandonW> With a giant logo up top.
[02:36:47] < BrandonW> And navigation on the left bottom side.
[02:36:53] < BrandonW> And content on the bottom right.
[02:37:02] < BrandonW> I distinctly remember some purple in there.
[02:37:31] <+simonzack> that's better
[02:38:56] <+simonzack> about kevin kofler, he talks to you like once in 5 min
[02:39:01] <+simonzack> that's really annoying
[02:39:08] <+simonzack> like a bit arrogant
[02:39:10] < Barrett> maybe he's busy
[02:39:12] <+simonzack> he can't be that busy
[02:39:17] < BrandonW> Sure he can.
[02:39:22] < BrandonW> I'm not even here most of the time.
[02:39:31] < BrandonW> Although he is arrogant.
[02:39:32] <+simonzack> what, do u have a job?
[02:39:37] < BrandonW> Yeah.
[02:39:48] <+simonzack> that explains things
[02:39:55] < BrandonW> What things does that explain?
[02:40:11] <+simonzack> busy
[02:40:23] < BrandonW> I was busy before the job.
[02:40:23] < Barrett> I'd estimate that most people have jobs
[02:41:36] < Hunterkll> heh
[02:41:38] <+simonzack> not me
[02:41:58] < Barrett> do you do anything that makes you busy?
[02:42:01] < Barrett> like... school?
[02:42:06] <+simonzack> yep
[02:42:10] <+simonzack> ok, i get u
[02:42:25] <+simonzack> but school<jobs
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[02:42:35] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!!
[02:42:41] <+simonzack> hi sir_lewk
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[02:42:59] <+Sir_Lewk> 'ello
[02:44:23] < Hunterkll> i can has wiimote 
[02:44:30] < BrandonW> So do I.
[02:44:40] <+simonzack> wiimote?
[02:44:47] < BrandonW> The controller for the Wii.
[02:44:55] <+simonzack> not familiar
[02:45:06] < BrandonW> Have you not heard of the Wii?
[02:45:10] <+simonzack> yep
[02:45:25] < BrandonW> It's a wireless controller shaped like a remote, so, Wiimote.
[02:45:37] <+simonzack> kk
[02:47:02] <+Nikky> you've never heard of a wiimote?
[02:47:13] <+simonzack> now i have
[02:47:40] <+Nikky> What about kevin?
[02:47:40] <+tifreak> i have 2 wiimotes... :P
[02:47:49] <+simonzack> kevin?
[02:48:10] <+Captain_A>  I have a belly button
[02:48:23] < BrandonW> You are an idiot.
[02:48:40] <+Captain_A> And you are a pony
[02:48:49] < BrandonW> I rest my case.
[02:48:54] <+Captain_A> Indeed
[02:49:04] <+tifreak> brandon, i figured out where I had heard the self-destruct alarm on the midway station before...
[02:49:17] <+Nikky> Your office?
[02:49:27] <+tifreak> not yet, sadly :P
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[02:49:31] <@efneTI86> [DSPLord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
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[02:49:38] < BrandonW> Where was it from?
[02:50:00] <+tifreak> the episode where they introduced the replicators
[02:50:11] <+tifreak> when they changed defon levels, that alarm sounded
[02:50:32] <+tifreak> defcon*
[02:50:35] < BrandonW> Of Atlantis?
[02:50:44] <+tifreak> no, in sg1
[02:50:47] < BrandonW> Are you positive that's from SG-1?
[02:50:51] <+tifreak> yes
[02:51:00] <+tifreak> just watched the episode a few hours ago
[02:51:02] < BrandonW> what season?
[02:51:10] <+tifreak> 4, i think?
[02:51:17] <+tifreak> it is when they had to crash Thor's ship
[02:51:24] <+tifreak> 2 part episode
[02:51:29] < BrandonW> Part 1 or 2?
[02:51:33] <+tifreak> 1
[02:51:45] <+simonzack> be back, got something to do
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[02:52:03] < BrandonW> When did they have any sort of alarm? They barely showed the SGC except for when Jack was talking to them in the conference room, and beaming the gate up.
[02:52:49] <+tifreak> When Daniel came down, and Davis showed up, they changed the level to defcon 3, alarm sounded
[02:52:58] < BrandonW> I must see this.
[02:53:16] <+tifreak> then they found the ship starting to make its approach, they moved to the 2nd level
[02:53:17] < BrandonW> I think that was the season 3 finale.
[02:53:22] <+tifreak> might have been
[02:53:30]  * tifreak goes and looks
[02:54:00] <+tifreak> yes
[02:54:04] <+tifreak> Nemisis
[02:54:08] <+tifreak> or how ever it be spelled
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[02:55:56] < BrandonW> Those beam weapons are kind of funky.
[02:56:10] <+tifreak> they obviously need to work on their targeting sensors...
[02:56:19] <+tifreak> the whole "lead the target" thing
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[02:56:55] < Nikky> hmm
[02:56:57] <+tifreak> Emporer Pirk seemed to have trouble with that too... :P
[02:57:18] <+tifreak> unless you have not seen Star Wreck, then that makes no sense to you...
[02:57:20] < BrandonW> Now that feels like a Star Wreck reference, which I still haven't seen.
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[02:57:38] <+tifreak> you should :)
[02:59:01] <+tifreak> the first 40ish minutes are bleh.. the battle scenes make it all better though ^^
[02:59:44] <+tifreak> not a replicator..
[03:00:31]  * tifreak shakes fist at commercial breaks
[03:01:57] <+tifreak> brandon.. you wouldn't happen to know of a full picture of the Earth stargate, would you?
[03:02:19] < BrandonW> We don't even know how this will end. He's a recurring character later on, he might actually BE an alien or something and shows up as a bad guy later.
[03:02:31] < BrandonW> I probably have a couple.
[03:02:34] < HQAT> Hmm pretty switch from the argument errors to data type errors... great...
[03:03:50] <+tifreak> and yea, I know..
[03:04:03] <+tifreak> i should go to bed.. but I don't want to... >.<
[03:04:44] < BrandonW> Yeah, same here.
[03:04:59] <+tifreak> screw it, I can lose an hour of sleep... :P
[03:05:05] < BrandonW> http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/5002/stargatesg1thestargateak4.jpg
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[03:05:19] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!!
[03:05:31] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Sir_Lewk] by efneTI92
[03:07:00] < BrandonW> And that's the one episode I didn't really see.
[03:07:09] <+tifreak> heh
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[03:08:08] <+tifreak> GAH
[03:08:15] <+tifreak> how are they gonna pass this off... <.<
[03:08:29] < BrandonW> So we've been dealing with a clone for two years.
[03:08:32] < BrandonW> I knew it.
[03:08:49] <+tifreak> maybe :P
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[03:10:51] < HQAT> Great... know pretty just locks up...
[03:11:09] < BrandonW> Halling with short hair?
[03:11:58] <+tifreak> hah
[03:13:03] <+tifreak> http://www.wallpaperlinks.be/img/mes_wall/stargate03-1024x768.jpg
[03:13:14] <+tifreak> found a nice one :)
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[03:13:55] < BrandonW> I don't like how the Atlantis gate's chevrons glow sometimes when the gate is off.
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[03:14:31] <+tifreak> yeah, same
[03:14:33] <+tifreak> http://www.sg-999.org.uk/stargate2.jpg
[03:14:37] <+tifreak> is one even cleaner
[03:15:01] < BrandonW> Except all the chevrons are supposed to glow.
[03:16:04] <+Captain_A> You guys really like that show, eh
[03:16:23] <+tifreak> it is a good one :)
[03:17:03] <+Captain_A> I may have to check it out some time, but I usually don't get into sci fi type shows
[03:19:20] <+tifreak> well, to each their own
[03:19:35] <+Captain_A> Yup
[03:19:35] < BrandonW> I don't like how every offworld bar is the same.
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[03:20:31] <+tifreak> the makers of SG1 and Atlantis did an excellent job with adding mythology from different cultures into the show..
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[03:21:34] <+tifreak> lol
[03:21:41] <+tifreak> taking back over the infirmary XD
[03:22:07] <+tifreak> poor guy..
[03:24:42] < Barrett> I like how you can watch NHL games online
[03:24:46] < BrandonW> There's potential for a strong/emotional clone plot here, if they don't screw it up.
[03:24:58] < BrandonW> Mentioning Weir like that was good.
[03:25:06] < BrandonW> This one'll die and we'll find the original.
[03:25:12] < BrandonW> Or he'll go Ford on us.
[03:25:29] < BrandonW> By taking something that staves off his dying of old age and planet-hops and becomes a recurring character.
[03:25:57] <@Andy_J> except they just said they can't do anything about old age
[03:26:17] < BrandonW> They can't, no.
[03:26:20] < BrandonW> But maybe Michael can.
[03:26:51] < BrandonW> HA!
[03:26:54] < BrandonW> Doubt me, you should not.
[03:27:01] <@Andy_J> hax
[03:27:42] <+tifreak> lol
[03:29:54] < HQAT> WOOT :D
[03:29:56] < HQAT> It works :P
[03:30:25] < HQAT> It crashes when I exit pretty tho :P I'll have to fix that..
[03:33:00] <+Captain_A> nice
[03:34:07] < BrandonW> They better have a sweet kawoosh in that game.
[03:34:11] < BrandonW> That's the only RPG I'll even consider playing.
[03:34:13] <+tifreak> lol
[03:34:28] <+tifreak> I would LOVE to, but freakin dialup hinders... :(
[03:34:37] <@Andy_J> it's an MMO?
[03:34:42] < BrandonW> Yes.
[03:34:48] <@Andy_J> Interesting.
[03:35:36] < BrandonW> You know, large ring thing...spins around, lights up...kinda flushes sideways...
[03:35:43] <+tifreak> i probably could play if I did it at the library... would only get like 1 night a week to play though... :P
[03:36:04] <@Andy_J> I'm not sure I see how a stargate MMO could work
[03:36:14] < BrandonW> And why not?
[03:36:22] <+tifreak> could be like FF11
[03:36:22] < BrandonW> Just read Wikipedia.
[03:36:23] <@Andy_J> Guilds with only 4 people in them?
[03:36:26] < Hunterkll> my iphone is now a samba/ftp/ssh/afp/http server heh
[03:36:28]  * Randomist hears 'MMO' and wonders if it's free and where he can get it.
[03:36:28] < Hunterkll> heh
[03:36:41] < BrandonW> Yeah, so's my Touch.
[03:36:45] < BrandonW> You're not special.
[03:36:57] < Hunterkll> you can hit my phone up any time
[03:37:00] < BrandonW> The sooner you accept that, the less money you'll waste on stuff like that and the happier you'll be.
[03:37:01] < Hunterkll> you need wifi
[03:37:05] < Hunterkll> =]
[03:37:09] < BrandonW> You can hit my phone up any time, too.
[03:37:14] < Hunterkll> happier/
[03:37:21] < Hunterkll> heh, i feel fine as is
[03:39:21] < Randomist> If someone hits your phone up, aren't you supposed to punch them? :P
[03:40:42]  * Randomist ducks.
[03:42:39] < BrandonW> Or maybe they thaw him out every 5 episodes, talk a little bit, try a cure, doesn't work, back he goes.
[03:43:01] <+tifreak> lol
[03:43:04] <+tifreak> might be XD
[03:43:50] < BrandonW> I hate the Michael subplot.
[03:43:59] < BrandonW> It's cheap garbage and it needs to end.
[03:44:03] <+tifreak> yeah..
[03:44:07] < BrandonW> We need to get back the suspense of the first season.
[03:44:12] < BrandonW> You know the Wraith are coming...
[03:44:14] < BrandonW> Endless numbers...
[03:44:17] < BrandonW> We need moar power...
[03:44:21] <+tifreak> like back to ZPM hunting?
[03:44:24] < BrandonW> And it's on its way, and we just have to hold out.
[03:44:28] <+tifreak> They just need Scotty...
[03:44:54] <+tifreak> :P
[03:45:00] < BrandonW> I loved The Siege.
[03:45:02] < BrandonW> Loved it.
[03:45:10] <+tifreak> eventually, they are going to find a way to make ZPMs
[03:45:22] <+tifreak> but with limitations, of course
[03:45:24] < BrandonW> I think it was hard even for rthe Ancients.
[03:45:36] < BrandonW> for the*
[03:45:39] <+tifreak> well.. the replicators was able to do it easily enough I think...
[03:45:49] <+tifreak> since they had lots and lots
[03:45:50] < BrandonW> No, not necessarily.
[03:45:54] < BrandonW> Over MANY years, yes.
[03:45:57] < BrandonW> Millennia, even.
[03:46:07] <+tifreak> maybe
[03:46:18] <+tifreak> they have not defined the ease of which they could be built yet
[03:46:31] < BrandonW> Might take 500 years for one.
[03:46:36] <+tifreak> plus the whole stargate factory.. waiting to see that one...
[03:46:48] < BrandonW> How do you know these stories are going to be done?
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[03:47:08] <+tifreak> i dont, it is a hope though.. 
[03:47:21] <+tifreak> i think I read that on the stargate archive site somewhere...
[03:48:28] < HQAT> Umm what would be the normal way to copy a token string into str0? Pushing the tokens on the fps and then using StoOther?
[03:49:01] < BrandonW> Get the string, delete if exists Str0, recreate it, and copy the contents.
[03:49:44] < HQAT> Umm how exactly do you copy the contents?
[03:49:50] < BrandonW> ldir
[03:50:15] < HQAT> Uhh does that work? I thought these strings were dynamicly allocated and stuff...
[03:50:24] <+tifreak> hmm...
[03:50:42] < BrandonW> What string are you trying to put in Str0?
[03:51:02] < HQAT> Umm the last entry a user typed in...
[03:51:10] < BrandonW> Umm okay.
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[03:51:21] < BrandonW> Get the string and copy its contents somewhere.
[03:51:21] <+tifreak> did McKay just kill someone o.O
[03:51:32] < BrandonW> Or just get the length of that string.
[03:51:36] < BrandonW> Then create Str0 with that length.
[03:51:44] < BrandonW> Then copy the location of the last entry string to Str0's data area.
[03:52:21] < HQAT> Hmm I'll try that... 
[03:54:29] <+tifreak> at least he proved himself to not be evil like the trailers were showing
[03:55:01] < BrandonW> He's evil enough.
[03:55:07] < BrandonW> He'll do whatever Michael or any Wraith wants.
[03:55:09] < BrandonW> He's a liability.
[03:55:11] < BrandonW> This episode sucked.
[03:55:14] < BrandonW> Blocked out of my mind.
[03:55:15] < BrandonW> Moving on.
[03:55:18] <+tifreak> o.O
[03:55:41] <+tifreak> that may only be because of the injections
[03:56:26] < BrandonW> Wishful thinking.
[03:56:35] <+tifreak> we will see :)
[03:56:38] <+tifreak> lol
[03:56:47] <+tifreak> anywho, time for me to hit the sack
[03:57:06] < BrandonW> That's an awfully big room for one stasis pod.
[03:57:14] <+tifreak> yeah
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[03:57:16] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!!
[03:57:18] < BrandonW> Must be reserved for somebody important.
[03:57:21] <+tifreak> what's the next episode...
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[03:57:37] <+tifreak> umm...
[03:57:41] <+tifreak> looks cool ^^
[03:57:51] < BrandonW> Have you read the synopsis?
[03:57:54] <+tifreak> no
[03:58:13] <+tifreak> link?
[03:58:26] < BrandonW> Sheppard comes back from a mission to find Atlantis 40,000 years in the future, completely abandoned, city's dead, and instead of ocean, just sand, lots and lots of sand.
[03:58:36] <+tifreak> umm
[03:58:45] <+tifreak> that could be a problem
[03:58:51] < BrandonW> Okay, people are saying umm a lot all of a sudden.
[03:59:03] <+tifreak> lol, that might just be me :P
[03:59:04] < BrandonW> And of course IE hanged on gateworld.net.
[03:59:45] <+tifreak> well, by what you said, should make for a good episode
[03:59:50] < BrandonW> http://gateworld.net/atlantis/s4/420.shtml
[03:59:50] <+Captain_A> wheres i_c-Y when you need him
[03:59:58] < BrandonW> The only person left is a hologram of an aged Rodney.
[04:00:47] <+tifreak> makes me eager to see it then :)
[04:01:46] < BrandonW> "Never been done before", yeah, right...
[04:01:48] < BrandonW> He's a freaking clone.
[04:01:58] < i_c-Y> hi Captain_A 
[04:02:02] < BrandonW> He's defective and we froze him in case we need him later.
[04:02:09] <+tifreak> o.O
[04:02:11] <+tifreak> ????
[04:02:31] <+Captain_A> i_c-Y: Woah, wasn't especting that. You have solidworks on your computer, right?
[04:02:35] < i_c-Y> im playing arond with my wacom
[04:02:37] < BrandonW> The way they brought him back has certainly been done before.
[04:02:39] < i_c-Y> Captain_A: not installed.
[04:02:55] <+tifreak> ah
[04:02:57] <+tifreak> yeah
[04:02:59] <+Captain_A> i_c-Y: Ah, then thats no good
[04:03:29] < Randomist> What other music creation programs out there besides MPT allow the use of SoundFonts?
[04:03:38] < Randomist> MPT doesn't handle SoundFonts all that well.
[04:04:44] < Randomist> I know Fruity Loops does, but it is not free.
[04:05:01] <+tifreak> on the bright side... season 5 will start fairly soon after the ending.. since they are not working so hard on two shows...
[04:06:11] <+tifreak> well, anyways, have to be up in 6 hours
[04:06:14] <+tifreak> goodnight
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[04:07:08] < HQAT> Works perfectly now :D My new CAS is gonna own :D (If I ever get it finished that is...)
[04:08:22] < Spengo> hmm
[04:08:25] < Spengo> I need more ram
[04:08:58]  * Spengo pokes the IRS
[04:09:01] < Spengo> gimme my money back
[04:11:10] <+Captain_A> I am pumped for my income tax
[04:11:15] < Hunterkll> ded
[04:11:19] <+Captain_A> those 33 dollars are going to rock
[04:11:23] < Hunterkll> hahahha
[04:11:33] < HQAT> I'm gonna go and get some sleep...
[04:11:33] < BrandonW> $33?
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[04:11:37] <+Captain_A> Yes
[04:11:40] < Hunterkll> i got $1 from statte last year
[04:12:33] <+Captain_A> I technically started working in november
[04:12:44] <+Captain_A> so I get a $33 return
[04:13:47] < Kira> my 809 dollars are going to rock
[04:14:15] <+Captain_A> I'll trade ya
[04:14:19] < BrandonW> My 2204 dollars are going to rock.
[04:14:36] <+Captain_A> I'll trade you kira's brandon
[04:14:46] < Kira> I never traded.
[04:14:58] < BrandonW> And I don't belong to Kira.
[04:15:03] <+Captain_A> Damn, thought I swindled you
[04:15:07] <+Captain_A> Since when?
[04:15:22] < BrandonW> Since ever.
[04:15:41] <+Captain_A> Lies
[04:18:22] < BrandonW> Oh, hey, there it is.
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[04:18:37] <@Andy_J> I haven't done my taxes yet
[04:18:42] <@Andy_J> I fear I will end up owing.
[04:20:16] < Nikky> :(
[04:20:35] < Nikky> I have no idea about a return
[04:20:39] < Nikky> *shrugs*
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[04:28:19]  * Randomist gasps.
[04:28:31]  * Randomist bows.
[04:36:54] < Nikky> hi tr1p1ea 
[04:36:54] < Nikky> :)
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[04:44:21] < tr1p1ea> hey :)
[04:44:46] < i_c-Y> hi trlpela
[04:44:55] < tr1p1ea> greetings
[04:44:59] < BrandonW> tr1p1ea: I've gotten a bluetooth adapter and I'm curious if you ever found your code or executables to communicate with it.
[04:46:03] < tr1p1ea> nothing on this machine unfortunately
[04:46:17] < BrandonW> Is it still in New Zealand or wherever it was?
[04:46:24] < tr1p1ea> in Tasmania
[04:46:34] < tr1p1ea> yeah at my parents
[04:46:41] < bsparks> omghi
[04:47:15] < tr1p1ea> i vaguely remember some of the control codes tho
[04:47:34] < BrandonW> But not enough to reproduce the code.
[04:47:45] < i_c-Y> hi bSparkS
[04:47:55] < bsparks> hey i_c-Y 
[04:48:03] < bsparks> tr1p1ea, question
[04:49:04] < i_c-Y> i'm playing around With handwriting recognition
[04:49:35] < BrandonW> Apparently you can't make lowercase S's or W's.
[04:49:48] < BrandonW> You even write out in all lowercase.
[04:49:52] < chronomex> haha
[04:49:56] < BrandonW> That's quite disturbing.
[04:50:20] < BrandonW> I mean, if I saw you doing that in an English class, I'd think you were a retard or something.
[04:51:29] < Randomist> function stripper($parameters)
[04:51:34] < BrandonW> I didn't realize society had gotten that lazy.
[04:51:43] < Randomist> Wrong channel.
[04:53:07] < BrandonW> If you don't turn both keys on a nuclear device at the same time, what happens?
[04:53:10] < BrandonW> Does it just ignore it?
[04:53:56] < tr1p1ea> whats the power rating on your bt adapter BrandonW?
[04:54:04] < tr1p1ea> you played with it at all?
[04:54:09] < BrandonW> I have not hooked it up, but it's irrelevant because of the power circuit.
[04:54:26] < BrandonW> Do you have any intention of getting that code back anytime soon?
[04:54:44] < tr1p1ea> well ive had ever intention of doing it for ages unfortunately
[04:54:58] < tr1p1ea> what worries me is that my lil brother uses that computer
[04:56:48] < tr1p1ea> i did have lots of probs however, since my work was done before bugs were found in the control command sending routines
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[05:02:32] < millinao> http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/So-You-Hacked-Our-Site!.aspx
[05:03:03] < millinao> hahaha
[05:09:18] < millinao> heh, my cousin got habbo hotel for his birthday
[05:11:01] < Randomist> When's the only times that punctuation is not supposed to go inside quotes?
[05:11:21] < millinao> never afaik
[05:12:20] < millinao> i only does if the punctuation is not part of the quote
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[05:12:32] < millinao> eg Did he say "yes"?
[05:14:39] < BrandonW> What?
[05:15:43] < millinao> is that right? or am I talking out of my ass
[05:15:58] < BrandonW> Oh, it's an example of the punctuation thing.
[05:16:03] < BrandonW> I was wondering what you were asking.
[05:16:09] < millinao> oh, no
[05:16:16] < millinao> I should have put it in quotes, heh
[05:16:23] < BrandonW> I leave the punctuation out only when I want to make it extremely clear that the punctuation is not part of the quote.
[05:16:26] < BrandonW> Or that it is.
[05:16:31] < BrandonW> Like "this.".
[05:16:36] < BrandonW> If I want to show the period was there.
[05:16:39] < millinao> .". is never correct
[05:16:43] < BrandonW> Lies.
[05:16:43] < Randomist> That looks odd.
[05:16:46] < BrandonW> So do you.
[05:16:55] < millinao> " can end a sentence
[05:16:56] < Randomist> Hey!
[05:17:02] < BrandonW> That's ridiculous.
[05:17:10] < BrandonW> Only periods, question marks, and exclamation points end sentences.
[05:17:17] < millinao> well, go ask an english teacher
[05:17:22] < millinao> 'cause mine says that's right
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[05:17:28] < BrandonW> Well, your English teacher's an idiot.
[05:17:39] < millinao> probably
[05:17:44] < BrandonW> lol
[05:17:46] < Randomist> Mine didn't really teach us that stuff.
[05:18:11] < millinao> mine teaches us a lot of grammar, which is awesome
[05:18:31] < millinao> well, he doesn't teach a lot, but he spends a lot of time teaching grammar
[05:18:59] < Nikky> actually
[05:19:01] < Nikky> millinao is correct
[05:19:21] < millinao> I knew it !
[05:19:31] < BrandonW> Whatever, troll.
[05:19:34] < BrandonW> What you say means nothing.
[05:19:48] < BrandonW> You have no credibility!
[05:19:51] < Nikky> I'm a grammar nazi
[05:19:57] < Nikky> credibility this
[05:19:57] < BrandonW> Right...
[05:20:03] < BrandonW> You didn't end that period with a sentence.
[05:20:07] < BrandonW> And Nazi is proper.
[05:20:17] < BrandonW> Didn't capitalize "credibility."
[05:20:17] < Nikky> As is 
[05:20:21] < BrandonW> Or put a period on that.
[05:20:25] < BrandonW> Or the period after "this."
[05:20:27] < Nikky> As is "ending a sentence with a quote."
[05:20:35] < BrandonW> That's nosense.
[05:20:37]  * millinao really really hopes "And Nazi is proper" shows up on the random quote thing
[05:20:39] < Nikky> It's true
[05:20:45] < Nikky> look it up in a style guide
[05:20:46] < chronomex> !q
[05:20:46] < BrandonW> nonsense.*
[05:20:47] <@efneTI86> 628: <aardvarq> Andy_J: Did you know that in Great Britain, what they call a "boob tube" is what we Americans refer to as a "tube top"? | <aardvarq> I learned that in a Japanese dictionary. [Added: sjrberg at 2006/08/12 19:24]
[05:20:57] < Randomist> Ooh, ooh, ooh!  Battle of the Grammar Nazis, Part I.
[05:21:10] < millinao> I'm talking about the website stats thing, but whatever
[05:21:14] < BrandonW> Only losers use style guides.
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[05:21:42] < BrandonW> Usually wrong anyway.
[05:21:49] < BrandonW> As is evidently the case here.
[05:21:59] < Nikky> No, I believe the AP Style Guide is correct. :)
[05:22:02] < BrandonW> If what you say is true, then I could say this:
[05:22:06] < BrandonW> This is a valid "sentence"
[05:22:08] < BrandonW> And it is not.
[05:22:11] < Nikky> no
[05:22:17] < BrandonW> That's what I'm saying.
[05:22:19] < Nikky> thre must be a period right before the quote
[05:22:22] < millinao> that's only because it's not a quote
[05:22:27] < BrandonW> So a quote cannot end a sentence.
[05:22:38] < millinao> And he said, "BrandonW is wrong"
[05:22:44] < Nikky> I "said crap." is right
[05:22:45] < millinao> is that wrong?
[05:22:48] < Nikky> I said "you retard"
[05:22:49] < Nikky> is wrong
[05:22:53] < Nikky> yes, it is millinao 
[05:22:55] < Nikky> sorry BrandonW 
[05:22:57] < BrandonW> I'm not disputing this: I said "this."
[05:22:57] < Nikky> you were right :)
[05:23:07] < millinao> wait
[05:23:12] < Nikky> I was confused
[05:23:16] < millinao> I mean "BrandonW is wrong."
[05:23:29] < BrandonW> Don't apologize, it happens way too often.
[05:23:40] < BrandonW> millinao's wrong, and we should kill Randomist and call it a day.
[05:23:57] < millinao> agh, people still say alot
[05:24:11] < millinao> that's the most annoying
[05:24:13] < BrandonW> Not the normal ones.
[05:24:28] < millinao> no, the majority say that
[05:25:09] < BrandonW> And the majority isn't normal.
[05:25:41] < millinao> well, yeah
[05:25:59] < millinao> but normal usually means the average of everyone
[05:27:56] < millinao> internet arguments are fun stuff
[05:28:07] < Netham45> woo
[05:28:10] < Netham45> got my Pandora battery
[05:28:31] < BrandonW> Nonsense, normal is normal.
[05:28:48] < Netham45> since I blew up my stock battery. :(
[05:29:05] < millinao> Are we normal? We aren't the majority.
[05:29:05] < Randomist> lol, "alot."
[05:29:22] < BrandonW> That's not proving your point.
[05:29:56] < millinao> I'm not trying to prove a point, really
[05:30:25] < BrandonW> So you're just spouting nonsense.
[05:30:32] < millinao> pretty much
[05:32:54] < BrandonW> http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/K2C.aspx Now, while this is idiotic, some people actually prefer readability over optimization, so that you can do stupid things like this JUST IN CASE for WHATEVER REASON you have to change ONE of the values.
[05:34:28] < millinao> wtf, no, that's retarted
[05:34:32] < BrandonW> It irks me, but it's true.
[05:34:38] < BrandonW> Okay, I'll give you an example.
[05:34:46] < BrandonW> Suppose there's a division issue with one of the Celsius values.
[05:34:57] < BrandonW> An issue with an unchangeable piece of code.
[05:35:09] < BrandonW> So the quick hack would be to increase that value in one of the return statements by one.
[05:35:16] < BrandonW> So that only that value would be just a little bit off.
[05:35:21] < BrandonW> But still not crash to cause the original issue.
[05:35:32] < BrandonW> And suppose there are...8 division errors like that.
[05:35:37] < BrandonW> Then you could justify it.
[05:35:40] < BrandonW> It's insanely rare, yes.
[05:35:48] < BrandonW> But there ARE people who want you to code that way.
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[05:36:52] < Nikky> hi :)
[05:36:55] < millinao> Why couldn't you just do if(celcius == problem_number) return desired_output; else return normal_output;
[05:37:07] < BrandonW> Like I said, there could be many values like that.
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[05:37:10] < BrandonW> I said 8 as an example.
[05:37:10] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!!
[05:37:18] < millinao> ok, a switch
[05:37:20] < BrandonW> Now, you can write 8 if statements, or you can change 8 numbers.
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[05:37:28] < BrandonW> A switch is a fancy if statement.
[05:37:52] < millinao> yeah
[05:38:18] < BrandonW> I have won.
[05:38:47] < millinao> still, the chance of that happening is 1 out of 1000
[05:39:05] < BrandonW> "It's insanely rare, yes."
[05:39:15] < millinao> Just stressing that point
[05:39:24] < millinao> but yes, you have won
[05:39:24] < BrandonW> "But there ARE people who want you to code that way."
[05:39:25] <+simonzack> hi
[05:39:40] < millinao> hello
[05:46:33] < millinao> do people who don't speak english code in english? or do their compilers take localized keywords?
[05:47:07] < chronomex> they code in english usually, perhaps with help from #define
[05:47:30] < millinao> oh
[05:51:03] < i_c-Y> most of them have access to either a US keyboard or somehow type it the ascii char set, unless if the language has other provisions
[05:51:48] < i_c-Y> its not really a major issue in most languages as its really a quite limited number of symbols for one, and two english is widespread - especially among people on th einternet / programmers  etc.
[05:51:49] < millinao> #defines would fix it rather easily
[05:52:17] < i_c-Y> causes more problems than its worth and a waste of time at best.
[05:52:25] < millinao> but then again, you don't have to memorize much
[05:53:09] < millinao> and almost all keyboards can type the latin alphabet
[05:53:58] < millinao> actually, are there any that can't?
[05:56:50] < Netham45> let there be homebrew PSP
[05:56:53] < Netham45> yay
[05:57:11] < millinao> I would use it more for pirating than homebrew
[05:58:00] < Netham45> shush
[05:58:04] < Netham45> :D
[06:01:11] < Netham45> oh?
[06:01:14] < Netham45> what bullshit is this?
[06:01:22] < Netham45> battery must be at 50% charge?
[06:01:31] < Netham45> :(
[06:01:41] < millinao> then go charge it
[06:01:59] < BrandonW> Boy, I'm glad you told him that...
[06:02:05] < BrandonW> Or else he never would've been able to figure that one out.
[06:02:07] < Hunterkll> "We're not black.... we're government officials.... don't be offensive"
[06:02:15] < millinao> haha, stfu BrandonW
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[06:02:35] < Netham45> millinao, amazing.
[06:02:39] < Netham45> mind boggling
[06:02:40] < BrandonW> How would you like it if you were bitching about something, and someone said to you "then do something about it"?
[06:03:02] < millinao> plenty of people need to be told that
[06:03:12] < BrandonW> Not in this channel.
[06:03:15] < BrandonW> Most of us have a clue.
[06:03:21] < BrandonW> Perhaps you're not used to talking to people like that.
[06:03:33] < millinao> heh
[06:03:42] < Netham45> lol
[06:03:59] < millinao> I'm a sarcastic asshole in real life too, so maybe
[06:04:12] < millinao> probably moreso
[06:04:20] < Netham45> I'm a sweet, loveable, gentleman irl
[06:04:31] < BrandonW> hah
[06:04:54] < BrandonW> I could not believe that just based on the pimp picture alone.
[06:04:55] < millinao> I don't believe that for a second
[06:05:04] < Netham45> lol
[06:05:08] < Netham45> that was a haloween costume
[06:05:12] < Netham45> halloween *
[06:05:16] < BrandonW> Still suits you.
[06:05:18] < millinao> pimp picture?
[06:05:20] < BrandonW> And there's that emo picture of you.
[06:05:26] < BrandonW> Also suits you.
[06:05:28] < Netham45> <BrandonW> And there's that emo picture of you. ???
[06:05:30] < Netham45> what?
[06:05:50] < BrandonW> Yes, pale and wearing black and stuff.
[06:05:56] < Netham45> no...?
[06:06:06] < Netham45> I never posted an emo picture of myself online...
[06:06:18] < BrandonW> You definitely had a picture of such a person in here.
[06:06:22] < BrandonW> Maybe you didn't say it was you.
[06:06:23] < Netham45> oh
[06:06:32] < BrandonW> But I think we all know it was you.
[06:06:34] < Netham45> netham45.org/emo.jpg
[06:06:47] < Netham45> no...
[06:06:49] < Netham45> what was that URL...
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[06:07:13] < Netham45> http://netham45.org/Emo.jpg
[06:07:20] < millinao> http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/s_jgrammar.html wow, that page alone is more than some books have
[06:07:24] < Netham45> yea, none of those are me.
[06:08:56] < Hunterkll> Netham45: Not all of us are `afraid` to die
[06:09:19] < Netham45> Hunterkll, I don't care?
[06:09:38] < Netham45> just take it as the fucking joke it is supposed to be and stop complaining.
[06:09:54] < millinao> Death doesn't really scare me
[06:10:11] < Hunterkll> you are basically implying the military is a bunch of emo faggots
[06:10:19] < millinao> haha
[06:10:28] < Netham45> um
[06:10:29] < Netham45> no
[06:10:37] < millinao> militairy a bunch of emo faggots? not even close
[06:10:45] < Hunterkll> Fuck no.
[06:10:52] < Netham45> I'm implying that the people in the millitiary don't want to die.
[06:10:54] < Hunterkll> er
[06:10:57] < Hunterkll> rephlase
[06:10:58] < Netham45> so that we should draft emos
[06:11:06] < Hunterkll> you are basically implying the military should be bunch of emo faggots
[06:11:08] < Netham45> to fight for us
[06:11:10] < millinao> LOL Netham45
[06:11:17] < millinao> that is awesome
[06:11:18] < Hunterkll> so they'd all run
[06:11:20] < Hunterkll> and die
[06:11:27] < millinao> or fight and die
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[06:11:31] < Hunterkll> and we'd fucking loose 
[06:11:32] < Netham45> Hunterkll, fight and die?
[06:11:32] < Hunterkll> en mass
[06:11:37] < Hunterkll> pfft
[06:11:51] < Hunterkll> have you ever challenged an emo faggotZ
[06:11:53] < Hunterkll> ?
[06:12:02] < Netham45> oh, but we would have your big, strong army there to back them up!
[06:12:06] < BrandonW> What is wrong with you Hunterkll? It's "lose", not "loose"...heaven forbid people get "loose"...and it's "than", not "then." You're doing that a lot lately.
[06:12:18] < millinao> have you ever even spoken to a sociopathic emo kid? they are all kill kill stab stab
[06:12:21] < Netham45> because some 120lb man shooting a tripod mounted machine gun is tough and big.
[06:12:47] < millinao> but maybe not all emo kids are sociopathic
[06:13:07] < Netham45> not all are
[06:13:13] < Hunterkll> BrandonW: Switched to Dvorak and crawling slow typing
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[06:13:38] < millinao> there's this one kid in our class who sounds like a terrorist when she talks about something she cares about
[06:13:40] < Netham45> heh, Dvorak
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[06:14:02] < Netham45> I'd hate a Dvorak keyboard
[06:14:06] < Netham45> I'd type all jgf4-9jf-394jfwjdpfjqw
[06:14:30] < millinao> I would like a dvorak keyboard, it would probably help me learn dvorak
[06:14:41] < Hunterkll> netham: That 120lb man, if USMC, can run 3 miles in 16 minutes, do 150+ crunches in 2 minutes, and 30+ pullups 
[06:14:42] < BrandonW> You think so?
[06:14:53] < Hunterkll> army are weak emo faggots though
[06:14:54] < Hunterkll> heh
[06:14:55] < millinao> Ok, I need to shut up for now
[06:15:00] < Netham45> Hunterkll, haha, I doubt it.
[06:15:01] < millinao> I'm saying a lot of stupid shit
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[06:15:30] < Hunterkll> netham: the lowest pullup count of any marine i know is ~20
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[06:15:40] < Hunterkll> and I know a -lot-
[06:15:41] < millinao> I can do one
[06:15:43] < Netham45> my cousin was in Iraq for a couple of months
[06:16:05] < Netham45> he can barely run a mile in 10 minutes...
[06:16:07] < millinao> who is stupid enough to join the military?
[06:16:21] < Hunterkll> Fuck, if -I- can do 120 crunches, 23 minute 3 mile, and 15+ pullups ....
[06:16:21] < Netham45> millinao, my cousin?
[06:16:29] < Hunterkll> and i'm a comp geek to boot
[06:16:34] < millinao> by who I mean what kind of person
[06:16:36] < Hunterkll> millinao: Me?
[06:16:42] < Netham45> millinao, my cousin?
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[06:17:08] < millinao> joining the military is a stupid decision imo
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[06:17:36] < Netham45> it got my cousin into college
[06:17:42] < Netham45> a college he couldn't otherwise afford
[06:17:44] < Hunterkll> I'm taking the oath ... A SECOND TIME ...  as soon as my paperwork is finished
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[06:17:54] < Hunterkll> net: What branch?
[06:18:09] < millinao> oh, do people join the military to get into college?
[06:18:09] < Netham45> Hunterkll, Idk. I seem to recall marines, but idk.
[06:18:19] < Hunterkll> Ask
[06:18:22] < BrandonW> millinao, that makes it not stupid?
[06:18:33] < Hunterkll> if his 1mi time is 10 minutes
[06:18:34] < millinao> no, but that justifies it a little
[06:18:36] < Netham45> desperation != stupid
[06:18:47] < Hunterkll> he can't pass USMC standards
[06:18:50] < BrandonW> You are a disgrace to our country.
[06:18:53] < Hunterkll> if his 1mi time is 10 minutes
[06:18:54] < Hunterkll> he can't pass USMC standards
[06:18:56] < millinao> Who, me?
[06:19:01] < BrandonW> All of you.
[06:19:07] < Hunterkll> and should be in a reconditioning unit
[06:19:17] < Hunterkll> or discharged
[06:19:22] < Randomist> If you go to jail or get fined or something if you don't register for Selective Service when you're eighteen, then why don't they just sign you up on their own, since you basically don't really have much of a choice?
[06:19:33] < BrandonW> You have a choice.
[06:19:36] < BrandonW> Do it, or go to jail.
[06:19:40] < Hunterkll> however a 10min 1mi is fine for air force i think
[06:19:49] < Randomist> Hence, "not much of a choice."
[06:19:55] < Netham45> Hunterkll, as I said, I do not know.
[06:19:58] < BrandonW> Do you really want your government deciding FOR you whether you want to go jail or not?
[06:19:59] < Hunterkll> heh
[06:20:02] < BrandonW> Next step is communism, you savage.
[06:20:20] < Hunterkll> my 1mi dash is like 6.5-7 min
[06:20:23] < Randomist> Sure, but it's also one step less everyone has to remember to do. :P
[06:20:23] < Netham45> Randomist is "Communistically Inclined"
[06:20:27] < Randomist> Laziness FTW.
[06:20:31] < BrandonW> No one cares, Hunterkll.
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[06:20:39] < BrandonW> You are not special, and you're not impressing anyone.
[06:20:47] < millinao> I would rather be in jail than go fight in military for a cause I think is horribly wrong
[06:20:57] < Hunterkll> brandonw: I was talking to netham....
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[06:21:01] < Netham45> I'd rather be in russia
[06:21:03]  * Randomist agrees with millinao.
[06:21:06] < BrandonW> Hunterkll, Netham doesn't care either.
[06:21:08] < millinao> russia kicks ass
[06:21:11] < BrandonW> And you're all filthy democrats.
[06:21:15] < Hunterkll> heh
[06:21:20] < Hunterkll> i am?
[06:21:20] < Netham45> BrandonW, socialist != democrat
[06:21:25] < Netham45> well
[06:21:26] < Netham45> it is
[06:21:29] < millinao> haha
[06:21:32] < Netham45> but kinda a bit more extreme
[06:21:36] < Hunterkll> what demo would join the USMC lol
[06:21:44] < Hunterkll> twice
[06:21:45] < BrandonW> You're a rabid democrat.
[06:21:45] < Hunterkll> heh
[06:21:48] < BrandonW> An insane one.
[06:21:51] < BrandonW> Which you definitely are.
[06:21:54] < millinao> does communism have to have bad human rights?
[06:21:54] < Nikky> Me?
[06:21:59] < Netham45> millinao, no.
[06:22:02] < Nikky> millinao: of course not
[06:22:03] < BrandonW> millinao's a communist.
[06:22:12] < Hunterkll> even though i'd rather vote for ... aw fuck i'm not starting that debate
[06:22:13] < Hunterkll> heh
[06:22:17] < millinao> I think it would work if people were treated right
[06:22:21] < Nikky> John McCain?
[06:22:23]  * Randomist sinks his teeth into the laggy server.
[06:22:23] < Nikky> You're a retard
[06:22:25] < Netham45> millinao, that is usually caused by one man rising to power, and abusing that power.
[06:22:51] < Nikky> I'll bet Netham45 has never even read Marx
[06:22:57] < BrandonW> I can't take any more stupidity.
[06:23:14] < Hunterkll> Apparently enlisting is stupid
[06:23:16] < Hunterkll> Oh well
[06:23:39] < Randomist> BrandonW:  Then how are you surviving with me around?
[06:23:42] < Netham45> BrandonW, if we act reall st00pid long enough,
[06:24:02] < BrandonW> Randomist, I don't know.
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[06:24:24] < Netham45> Randomist, you being around is smart.
[06:24:35] < Netham45> we are harnessing Darwins natural spinning-in-grave power.
[06:24:48] < Randomist> * Darwin's
[06:24:56] < Netham45> which is envriomentally sound and smart.
[06:24:59] < Netham45> stfu
[06:25:05]  * Randomist smirks.
[06:25:19]  * Netham45 smacks Randomist
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[06:25:40]  * Randomist slaps Netham45 with a rubber glove.
[06:25:55]  * Randomist repeats with an iron.
[06:26:08] < Netham45> ugh
[06:26:14] < Netham45> /me is a dangerous command
[06:26:16] < millinao> I'm fed up with dumbass people tagging buildings with the anarchy symbol
[06:26:23] < Netham45> millinao, yea, lol
[06:26:50] < Netham45> someone spraypainted a 10' in diameter anarchy symbol on our school right next to the entrance
[06:27:35] < millinao> and they don't know anything about anarchism either
[06:27:36] < Randomist> Someone did that in the bathroom.
[06:27:47] < chronomex> anarchists unite!
[06:28:11] < millinao> apparently it's a huge subject, wikipedia has a shitton of info on it
[06:31:00] < Randomist> 'lol' at the episode of "Xavier: Renegade Angel" on the subject.
[06:32:10] < millinao> I ask the people what they think anarchy is, and they just think it means chaos and people breaking windows and looting
[06:33:05] < Netham45> haha
[06:33:10] < millinao> so who was the idiot that made the anarchy symbol "cool"?
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[06:35:18] < Netham45> hmm
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[06:35:26] < Netham45> maybe that emo in that pic was randomist
[06:35:33] < millinao> what pic?
[06:35:50] < Netham45> http://netham45.org/Emo.jpg
[06:36:16] < millinao> LOL what the fuck is with the eyeshadow
[06:36:25] < millinao> he looks like a clown
[06:36:32] < Netham45> lol
[06:36:43] < millinao> in fact, the clown song is playing in my head right now
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[06:37:05] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!!
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[06:37:48] < millinao> haha netham why did you make your forums so huge
[06:38:03] < Netham45> hell
[06:38:11] < Netham45> I havn't checked those in forever
[06:38:20] < Netham45> hmm
[06:38:25]  * Netham45 hooks a gamecube up
[06:38:33] < Netham45> one of my friends got a wii, so he gave me his GC
[06:38:42] < millinao> what games?
[06:38:48] < Netham45> Enter the Matrix
[06:38:52] < Netham45> and 1 controller
[06:39:26] < millinao> haha enter the matrix
[06:40:13] < millinao> go get eternal darkness
[06:40:30] < millinao> the only gamecube game with a screamer
[06:40:33] < Netham45> I have $1 until next thursday
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[06:45:53] < Netham45> ok
[06:45:57] < Netham45> I played my GC for like 2 minutes
[06:45:59] < Netham45> and got bored
[06:46:08] < BrandonW> Chip it and sell it.
[06:46:19] < Netham45> or....
[06:46:22] < Netham45> Chip it and keep it!
[06:46:35] < BrandonW> So it'll be less boring then?
[06:46:42] < Netham45> yea
[06:46:52] < Netham45> can this thing get online?
[06:46:54] < BrandonW> I soldered a GameCube modchip once.
[06:47:00] < BrandonW> With an adapter, I'm pretty sure.
[06:47:46] < millinao> it's a pretty small console, you could probably turn it into an embedded computer or something
[06:47:51] < Netham45> As of April 2007, the three Nintendo GameCube games to feature online play, Sega's Phantasy Star Online series, are no longer being supported for online play.
[06:48:07] < BrandonW> I came awfully close to getting a $40 GameCube once, chipping it, and using it as a portable Linux PC.
[06:48:15] < BrandonW> With a memory card slot modified to take SD cards.
[06:48:48] < Netham45> I'm more intrested in finally getting my PSP modded
[06:48:54] < Netham45> got the MMS, and the battery
[06:49:11] < Netham45> waiting for the battery to charge, now.
[06:51:35] < Nikky> whore
[06:51:37] < Nikky> shut up
[06:52:16] <@Grue> Nikky, look in a mirror.
[06:52:25] < chronomex> !q
[06:52:25] < millinao> are there resources on the internet for free animations
[06:52:27] <@efneTI86> 983: <Sir_Lewk> "Happy 14th birthday to Debian, father of Ubuntu!" <== How is that supposed to make Debian feel?!? | <Netham45> Sir_Lewk, it's supposed to remind Debian to use a condom. [Added: i_c-Y at 2007/08/19 13:46]
[06:52:39] < chronomex> millinao: archive.org has public-domain video
[06:52:40] < millinao> lol
[06:52:57] < millinao> err, animations as in keyframes
[06:53:19] < millinao> or frames, or whatever its called
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[06:53:33] < Netham45> 2% short
[06:53:40] < Netham45> of a 50% charged PSP
[06:54:01] < Nikky> Don't care
[06:54:40] < chronomex> Nikky: agreed
[06:54:59] < Netham45> sooo slow
[06:55:23]  * Sir_Lewk humps Netham45 very fast
[06:55:31] < Netham45> hey
[06:55:36]  * millinao grabs  some popcorn
[06:55:37] < Netham45> slower, I chaff easially
[06:55:39] < millinao> continue..
[06:56:09] < Netham45> 49% charged...
[06:56:13] < Netham45> GAH
[06:56:28] < chronomex> Netham45: we don't need a "now charging" script
[06:56:34] < chronomex> "np" is bad enough
[06:56:50] < Netham45> I have an np: script?
[06:57:07] < Netham45> where, so I can stop typing these damn song names.
[06:57:19] < chronomex> no, but np is bad enough
[06:57:28] < bsparks> np: rent bill
[06:57:36] < BrandonW> chronomex, tell Barrett how odd his idea is about writing something for the PC that would link !calc to an 89 emulator.
[06:58:01] < chronomex> how is that odd?  it's GENIUS
[06:58:24] < BrandonW> I knew you'd say that, so write it for him.
[06:58:27] < BrandonW> Because he said he won't.
[06:58:30] < BrandonW> But he wants it done.
[06:58:30] < chronomex> haha
[06:58:33] < chronomex> I'm too lazy
[06:58:37] < chronomex> but its an awesome idea
[06:58:46] < chronomex> a real calc, or an emu?
[07:00:02] < BrandonW> An emulator.
[07:00:06] < BrandonW> "emu" sounds like an animal.
[07:00:14] < BrandonW> You show your ignorance by shortening it.
[07:08:37]  * chronomex frowns
[07:08:57] < chronomex> stop trolling, BrandonW
[07:09:02] < chronomex> it doesn't fit you
[07:09:14] < Netham45> l3ts annoi brandonw bai usin t3h wr0ng wurds
[07:09:39] < BrandonW> Relax, Netham, all you have to do is stay alive if you want to annoy me.
[07:10:24] < Kira> burn
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[07:17:35]  * Nikky ops BrandonW 
[07:18:05] < BrandonW> No, I can't have ops.
[07:18:12] < BrandonW> Because that would be a sensible and logical thing to do.
[07:18:15] < BrandonW> And we can't have that here.
[07:19:40] < Spengo> lolol
[07:19:47] < Spengo> BrandonW is jealous of the @
[07:19:57] < BrandonW> Why would I be?
[07:20:16] < Spengo> why wouldn't you be?
[07:20:28] < BrandonW> It's not polite to answer a question with another question.
[07:20:48]  * chronomex thinks BrandonW has PMS today
[07:21:27] < Spengo> maybe you should go sleep or something, weren't you saying something about having to work ridiculous hours and then being sick?
[07:21:50] < BrandonW> I did say that, yes.
[07:23:40] < Spengo> !! a new portal map
[07:24:07] < BrandonW> !!
[07:24:10] < BrandonW> Who else in here cares?
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[07:24:42] < Spengo> a lot of people
[07:24:45] < Netham45> BrandonW, I care a hell of alot more about the portal map, compared to your stupid rants.
[07:24:56] <+Nikky> Portal is stupid
[07:24:59] < Spengo> this channel full of valve fanbois remember?
[07:25:01] <+Nikky> !k Netham45 Be nice
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[07:25:11] <+BrandonW> If I wanted to hear about Portal, I'd go to a Portal channel. If you want to hear about calculators, you come here.
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[07:25:12] < Hunterkll> !kb netham45
[07:25:13] < Hunterkll> !kb netham45
[07:25:14] <+BrandonW> If you don't, fuck off.
[07:25:21] < Hunterkll> damn 
[07:25:25] < Netham45> wtf
[07:25:32] < Netham45> my client keeps deciding it wants autorejoin
[07:25:34] < Netham45> =/
[07:25:36] < chronomex> ...
[07:25:37] < Hunterkll> i keep forgetting it dosn't exist here
[07:25:42] <+Nikky> :(
[07:25:42] < Hunterkll> !k netham45
[07:25:43] < Spengo> BrandonW, have you ever been in any IRC channel that stays on topic?
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[07:25:54] < Hunterkll> better
[07:25:56] < Netham45> Hunterkll...
[07:26:05] < Hunterkll> testing autojoin
[07:26:08] < Spengo> enough with all the !king already
[07:26:14] <+Nikky> I think BrandonW's point is that his calculator rants are more important than portal rants
[07:26:25] <+Nikky> Which I agree with
[07:27:12] < Spengo> well lately he hasn't been ranting about calculators
[07:27:27] <+BrandonW> Well, since when have you cared?
[07:27:31] < Spengo> he's been ranting on how people don't always talk about calculators and nothing else in an IRC channel
[07:27:43] < Hunterkll> heh
[07:28:08] <+BrandonW> I think you're jumping to conclusions.
[07:28:17] <+BrandonW> No channel stays on topic 100% of the time.
[07:28:30] <+BrandonW> Everyone knows that.
[07:28:32] <+BrandonW> Even me.
[07:30:21] < Hunterkll> heh
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[07:52:49] < Spengo> hmm, I think I'm going to go borrow an alfred hitchcock film from the library
[07:56:58] < glk> Lifeboat was a good one
[07:58:03] < Spengo> they've got North by Northwest, Notorious, Psycho
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[08:08:26] < Spengo> damn
[08:08:32] < Spengo> I guess the library closes early on fridays
[08:08:36] < Spengo> it was locked :/
[08:08:41] <+ports> lol
[08:08:50] < Spengo> weekdays it's open for another hour methinks
[08:09:02] <+ports> ours closes early on friday
[08:09:25] <+ports> otherwise its open till 1am
[08:09:31] < Spengo> same
[08:09:46] < Spengo> well now I'm bored
[08:09:48] <+ports> i dont think theres a legitimate reason to be up studying past that
[08:10:02] <+Nikky> lololololololol
[08:10:05] <+Nikky> spengo's a nerd
[08:10:06] < Spengo> well I wanted to borrow an alfred hitchcock movie
[08:10:13] <+ports> oh
[08:10:14] < Spengo> and proud of it
[08:10:53] <+ports> torrent it
[08:12:36] <+ports> anyone know of a good media center front end?
[08:13:28] < Spengo> torrent will take too long
[08:13:51] <+ports> i wish i owned windows xp mce
[08:24:16] <+ports> hrm
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[08:38:00] <@efneTI86> [DarkAuron] We called it Sin.
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[09:45:31] <+Sir_Lewk> "<ports> anyone know of a good media center front end?"
[09:45:39] <+Sir_Lewk> CLI + mplayer
[09:50:10] <+Nikky> ...
[09:50:23] <+Nikky> CLI sucks balls
[09:52:09] <+Sir_Lewk> you should like it then
[09:53:24] <+Sir_Lewk> normally I'd say that "CLI + mplayer" is redundant, though GUIs do exist for mplayer and they are suck
[09:55:22] <+Sir_Lewk> 'mplayer -vo sdl -vf eq -subfont-text-scale 2 -subfps 25' ftw
[09:55:44] <+Nikky> don't care
[09:55:46] <+Nikky> fedoratard
[09:55:59] <+Sir_Lewk> whatever
[09:56:02] <+Sir_Lewk> debtard
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[11:29:32] < DarkAuron> no
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[14:21:21] <+Captain_A> who is this new SnowCrash 
[14:26:48] <@Andy_J> it's been here for months
[14:30:42] <+Captain_A> Ah
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[15:50:46] < Randomist> What's another good torrent client besides uTorrent.
[15:57:36] <+ports-> you dont need anything else
[16:07:37] <+Tari> azureus is decent
[16:07:40] <+Tari> as is deluge
[16:12:37] <+ports-> delugel ooks just like utorrent
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[16:22:00] <+Captain_A> Deluge was pretty nice
[16:22:08] <+Captain_A> I like utorrent nowadays though
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[16:31:24] <@efneTI86> [Kira] We called it Sin.
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[16:38:09] < HQAT> Just wondering... does anyone know if the ti cas caluclators show intermediate steps?
[16:41:15] <+BrandonW> No, they don't.
[16:42:30] < HQAT> Hmm k.. would be a nice feature though... If I recall correctly maple and mathematica don't show them either... I wonder why...
[17:00:42] < HQAT> Woot... finally got my symoblic parses fully finished... :D Time to start on the sorting and simplification routines :D
[17:01:56] < HQAT> And it still pretty small... well.. its 8000 bytes... but thats reasonable...
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[17:25:29] < bsparks> HQAT, showing intermediate steps would make it easier to not know the math
[17:27:50] < HQAT> Well thats the entire idea of making a CAS though...
[17:28:06] < bsparks> no it isn't man
[17:28:25] < bsparks> no excuse to not know the material
[17:28:33] < HQAT> If I have to make a test and I'm nervous or time is running out... I'd be happy with a calculator who does the work for me...
[17:29:09] < bsparks> if you ask me, it's an unethical feature
[17:29:22] < bsparks> just an excuse to be lazy
[17:31:09] < HQAT> Hmmm... well it might be unethical... but it could also be used for educational purpose... If you want to understand how some sort of simplication works then just seeing the answer wont help a lot..
[17:31:41] < bsparks> no
[17:31:48] < bsparks> but, *gasp* knowing the material does
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[17:32:16] < bsparks> I always knew how to do stuff on paper before doing it in the calc
[17:32:32] < bsparks> aside from square roots, I knew how, but never could get the hang of it
[17:35:50] < HQAT> Well maybe your right... but still it would be nice to have a usefull CAS for the calc... unethical or not...
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[17:39:02] < bsparks> make one then
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[17:52:51] < HQAT> I'm trying... got some of gui finished and a symbolic parser the converts almost all mathematical tokens to a binary expression tree...
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[18:28:56] < Smeagle> bsparks: Yah, but consider if you didn't know the information 
[18:29:43] < Smeagle> and would you rather know how the calculator got the answer so you could do it aswell, or just have an answer and to be confused as to where it came from
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[19:03:44] <@efneTI86> [Merthsoft] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
[19:03:55] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Merthsoft] by efneTI86
[19:04:28] <+Nikky> hi Merthsoft 
[19:04:38] <+Merthsoft> hi Nikky how are you?
[19:04:48] <+Nikky> great
[19:04:51] <+Nikky> you?
[19:18:59] <+BrandonW> Anybody have a dead 83+ they wouldn't mind mailing me?
[19:23:00] < aadster> Haha my friend does.
[19:23:17] < aadster> When she turns it on the screen flashes black and shuts off.
[19:23:19] < aadster> It's dead.
[19:23:38] <+BrandonW> Do you think she'd be willing to donate it (minus shipping) to me?
[19:24:50] < aadster> Hmm... I could ask
[19:24:54] < aadster> I'm not sure though.
[19:25:17] <+BrandonW> As long as it's not a ridiculous price considering it's dead, I'd be willing to pay for it, too.
[19:25:20] <+BrandonW> But try the free route first. :)
[19:25:26] < aadster> Ok
[19:25:59] < aadster> If you are willing to pay
[19:26:03] < aadster> how much should I say
[19:26:20] <+BrandonW> Make her give you a number.
[19:26:23] <+BrandonW> Less than $30.
[19:26:30] < aadster> Ok
[19:26:43] < aadster> She's on vacation in Haiwaii right now
[19:26:52] < aadster> She'll probably be back Monday
[19:31:02] < Barrett> this was the most useless programming project I have ever done
[19:31:13] < Barrett> I started today because I thought that we would actually have to program stuff
[19:31:36]  * Tari has a "dead" 83+
[19:31:45] <+BrandonW> Donate?
[19:31:46] <+Tari> the LCD driver is borked
[19:31:48] < Barrett> it's a datalog interpreter.... but... all we had to write was a function that makes up all possible variable combinations in rules and facts
[19:32:01] <+Tari> and what for?
[19:32:03] < Barrett> and then the function that calls the pre-written function that tests if it's true or not
[19:32:17] <+BrandonW> I want to gut it...I need the case now, and maybe plans for the innards later.
[19:32:34] <+Tari> maybe
[19:32:38] <+Tari> it's not actually mine
[19:32:57] <+Tari> and I'm planning to swap the LCD with a cracked one in an 84
[19:33:22] <+BrandonW> No such thing as an 84.
[19:33:30] <+Tari> fine, 84+
[19:34:05] <+BrandonW> If you say 84, I don't know if you mean 84+ or 84+SE.
[19:34:14] < aadster> NSpire!
[19:34:20] <+BrandonW> If you can't be bothered to put the +, maybe you won't put the SE either.
[19:34:25] < aadster> haha did that on purpose. Nsipre*
[19:34:38] <+BrandonW> The one that really upsets me is nSpire.
[19:35:12] <+BrandonW> It brings out the rage.
[19:35:20] <+Nikky> yeah, seriously
[19:35:28] < aadster> nSpIr3
[19:35:31] < aadster> accck
[19:35:36] < aadster> What about
[19:35:40] < aadster> bRaNDOnW
[19:35:55] <+BrandonW> An insult because it's not capitalized.
[19:39:27] < aadster> BRANDONW
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[20:10:13] <@efneTI86> [Leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
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[20:28:45] < HQAT> Umm in the display event in a homescreen hook... I'd like to change the answer being displayed into some other text... 
[20:29:07] < HQAT> wikiti says I should change op1... but I cant just write a string into op1, can I?
[20:30:58] <+Tari> no
[20:31:26] <+Tari> maybe
[20:31:39] <+Tari> try it
[20:31:47] <+Tari> if you get garbage, no
[20:31:53] < HQAT> I doubt It'll work :P But I'll try..
[20:32:20] <+Tari> you could also manually display your string then return condition nz
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[20:33:58] < HQAT> It didn't work... umm yeah I could just try that I guess its easier...
[20:35:04] < HQAT> I guess I could also store the string in str0 and then change op1 into str0.. that should work.. but then it'll put quotation marks around it... 
[20:41:18] <+Tari> better solution would be storing to Ans and setting OP1 to Ans
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[20:41:31] <+Tari> users wouldn't like you screwing with their strings
[20:42:27] < HQAT> Hmm... but storing to ans would still add the quotation marks right? In that case I'll just output it manually and ret nz
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[20:49:43] <@efneTI86> [Zeromus] Look! It's Captain Sarcasm, Master of the Universe!
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[20:51:13] <@efneTI86> [DSPLord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
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[20:53:53] < aadster> Hey
[20:54:03] < aadster> how can i make a BASIC program MirageOS compatible
[20:54:07] < aadster> like, so it can run archived
[20:54:14] < aadster> or would it be better to use BasicBuilder.
[20:54:18] < aadster> I can't figure it out.
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[20:57:31] < aadster> anyone?
[21:00:02] < HQAT> Umm somethn like adding a : 
[21:00:05] < HQAT> in the first line
[21:00:17] < HQAT> not sure tho... but it was something like that...
[21:01:14] < HQAT> BasicBuilder would make it an an app right? That would cost ya like 16k arch space...
[21:01:38] < aadster> well
[21:01:41] < aadster> i tried BB
[21:01:44] < aadster> but it just made a .hex file
[21:02:22] < HQAT> Yeah you'll have to convert that... anyway... just try adding a : on the first line of your program...
[21:03:06] < aadster> and mirage will recognize it?
[21:03:08] < aadster> cool
[21:03:15] <+Tari> take the .hex file and run it through Wappsign to get an app
[21:03:20] < HQAT> Yeah I thought so.. didn't test it though..
[21:03:56] <+Tari> and yeah, a colon on the first line will make mirage see it
[21:03:58] < aadster> woah
[21:04:04] < aadster> nice! thanks!
[21:06:28] < aadster> so i need to get the 83+ flash debugger?
[21:08:06] < HQAT> Umm for wappsign? Well you don't realy need the debugger... But you'll have to download de ti sdk wich also includes the debugger...
[21:09:13] < aadster> ok
[21:09:16] < aadster> thanks guys it worked
[21:09:17] < aadster> i have to go
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[22:41:35] <+Tari> microsoft.com doesn't respond to ping
[22:41:39] <+Tari> what fun
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[22:46:31] <+tifreak> 'lu
[22:50:48] <+Tari> what's the point!
[22:51:05] <+Tari> this is a 48 part rar, and it's 718 MB
[22:51:15] <+Tari> the contained file is 699 MB..
[22:51:44] <+tifreak> o.O
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[22:52:33] <@efneTI86> [Netham45] wewt
[22:53:24] < Netham45> woo
[22:55:13] <+Tari> ?
[22:55:51] < Netham45> told my boss to fuck off
[22:55:56] < Netham45> felt sooo good
[22:58:28] < Netham45> now I need a new job, though.
[23:01:59] < chronomex> heh, pwnt
[23:02:16] < Netham45> lol
[23:02:23] < Netham45> I quit before I started cussing my boss out
[23:02:58] < Netham45> I got sick of all the write-ups they gave out.
[23:07:51] <+Sir_Lewk> what was the job?
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[23:12:06] <+Sir_Lewk> you should have stolen all the computers then burned the place down.
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[23:14:12] < Sir_Lewk> lolwut?
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[23:14:45] <@efneTI86> [Speng0] If at first you don't succeed, you fail.
[23:14:49] <+Sir_Lewk> so I'm logged into the CS departments cluster with X forwarding enabled
[23:15:06] < Netham45> Sir_Lewk, I was a bag boy at a grocery store
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[23:17:38] <+Sir_Lewk> ah :(
[23:18:00] <+Sir_Lewk> so anyways, I start kicker, even though I already have it running on my box
[23:18:13] <+Sir_Lewk> and everything goes *apeshit*
[23:18:59] <+Sir_Lewk> the two kickers start fighting to be on bottom, forcing each other up the screen and everything with it
[23:19:36] <+Sir_Lewk> had to restart X :S
[23:21:47] <+Nikky> ...
[23:21:48] <+Nikky> wow
[23:22:23] < chronomex> that's amazing!
[23:22:28] <+Sir_Lewk> it was impressive
[23:22:40] < chronomex> you should do it again and take a screencap video
[23:23:06] < Leofox> whats kicker?
[23:23:12] < chronomex> some KDE thing
[23:23:15] < Leofox> can my PC run it?
[23:23:24] <+Nikky> yes
[23:23:25] <+Nikky> but KDE sucks
[23:23:34] < Leofox> i have a fedora laptop sitting here
[23:23:37] < Leofox> how do i install it?
[23:23:52] <+Nikky> it's your application bar
[23:23:55] < chronomex> dunno, I'm leaving now
[23:23:58] <+Nikky> and install debian over that crap
[23:24:42] < Leofox> debian should have worn a condom when he made love to the mother of ubuntu
[23:24:50] < chronomex> !q
[23:24:52] <@efneTI86> 937: * tari_ finds a knife and some ketchup | <seidior> tari_: we call that attempted murder where I'm from | <tari_> not if it's for a sausage | <tari_> which it is |  <DSP_Lord> XD | <seidior> finally! someone that understands... | <seidior> when I put ketchup on a sausage, people just give me weird looks | <E-JL> that's normal | <E-JL> ketchup or mustard for sausage | <seidior> the ketchup part or the weird looks part? | <seidior> ah [Added: DSP_Lord at 2
[23:25:14] < Leofox> !quoteurl
[23:25:17] <@efneTI86> http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/
[23:25:29] < Leofox> stupid fedora
[23:25:35] < Leofox> i was wondering why booting takes forever
[23:25:48] < Leofox> apparently it tries to connect to a wlan connection without any certificates so it phails
[23:25:58] <+Nikky> haha
[23:28:15] < Leofox> ok downloading kdetoys
[23:28:37] <+Nikky> kdesucks
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[23:29:55] <@efneTI86> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
[23:29:55] <@E-J> and nikky uses ubuntu with kde?-)
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[23:30:30] < Leofox> i type kicker but nothing happens
[23:31:07] <@E-J> have you checked ps
[23:31:45] <@E-J> or ps -a
[23:31:46] <+Nikky> kubuntu, yes
[23:32:25] <@E-J> if there is one kicker already running, then you might need to kill it
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[23:34:19] < Wast3d> hey group does anyone know how to use histograms in stats?
[23:34:36] < Leofox> Wast3d, the manual does
[23:34:58] < Wast3d> ive checked the manual but its not doing what i want it to
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[23:39:19] <@E-J> Wast3d: which calc?
[23:39:24] < Wast3d> ti-89
[23:40:00] < glk> I have much data on the TI-89 in http://grahamkendall.net/ in MATH
[23:40:36] < Barrett> as does the manual
[23:40:37] < Wast3d> its duplicating classes  like 272to 310, 310 to 348, 348 to 386 instead of 272 to 310, 311 to 349, 350 to 388
[23:40:46] < glk> The old TI-89 manual has more data in stats
[23:40:56] < Wast3d> thanks ill check the site out
[23:41:02] < Barrett> ah yes, the old manual... it was actually somewhat thick...
[23:41:03] < Barrett> the new ones suck
[23:41:14] < glk> TI-89 lessons is a good place to start
[23:41:25] < Wast3d> i looked at whatever came with the calc :(
[23:41:47] < glk> Download the manual for statsle. I give a url
[23:41:51] <@E-J> Wast3d: there wasn't cd with calc? there is old manual in pdf
[23:42:29] < Wast3d> its at home probably im at school rite now
[23:43:32] <@E-J> on saturday/sunday?!
[23:44:04] < Wast3d> yea i dorm
[23:44:11] <@E-J> ach
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