--- Log opened Thu Feb 28 00:00:13 2008
[00:05:52] < aadster> ...
[00:05:54]  * aadster sighs
[00:07:19] < aadster> hey
[00:07:24] < aadster> whats the best 84+ emulator
[00:07:29] <+patz2009> tilem
[00:08:09] < aadster> 100% sure?
[00:08:13] < aadster> I want something good
[00:08:19] <+patz2009> it's the only one iirc
[00:08:25] < aadster> Virtual TI v2.5 is #1 on ticalc.org
[00:08:28] <@benryves> aadster: Here's an idea, try it and see for yourself.
[00:08:45] < aadster> Ok - just wanting opinions - I know nothing about calculator emulation.
[00:09:16] <+patz2009> Virtual TI doesn't emulate the 84+
[00:09:42] <@benryves> It barely even emulates the 83+, for that matter.
[00:10:13] < aadster> crud.
[00:10:19] < aadster> Isn't tilem only for linux?
[00:10:35] <+patz2009> no
[00:10:40] <+patz2009> they have a windows version
[00:11:03] < aadster> nice
[00:11:07] < aadster> ok I'll look inot it
[00:11:09] < aadster> into*
[00:12:27] < aadster> How can i get a ROM
[00:12:33] < aadster> cant it get one off my clac
[00:12:36] < aadster> calc*
[00:13:39] <@benryves> aadster: 10 seconds worth of web searching brings up http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/373/37341.html
[00:14:32] < aadster> sorry, thanks
[00:17:37] < aadster> ok i got tilem
[00:17:42] < aadster> and i'm getting errors
[00:17:46] < aadster> so im getting gtk2
[00:17:51] < aadster> i mean gtk+
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[00:19:23] < TD-Linux> oh no
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[00:19:33] <+TD-Linux> something terrible has happened
[00:19:53] <+TD-Linux> I have cut my right middle finger while opensing a newegg box with a kiddie scissor
[00:19:54] <+TD-Linux> and worse yet
[00:20:04] <+TD-Linux> it's the one I use to move my thinkpad mouse! :(
[00:21:10] <@benryves> :'(
[00:21:10] < aadster> nice tilem works
[00:21:27] <+patz2009> I see no reason why it shouldn't.
[00:21:39] < aadster> haha well it didnt until i installed gtk
[00:21:52] < aadster> hey patz if i want to install programs what directory do i put them in?
[00:24:50] < aadster> gtg
[00:24:51] < aadster> later
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[00:39:09] < Randomist> i_c-Y:  Can foobar rename all the MP3s in my music folder based on their tags?
[00:39:15] < Randomist> *s
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[00:39:44] < Randomist> Better yet, I need something to do that, and to download the tags for the MP3s that are missing them.
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[00:45:33] <+ports-> anyone know what routh's method is?
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[01:00:42] < glk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_John_Routh
[01:01:16] < glk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Routh_stability_criterion
[01:08:48] < glk> http://www.roymech.co.uk/Related/Control/Routh_Criteria.html
[01:12:21] < i_c-Y> Randomist: musicbrainz
[01:12:23] < i_c-Y> go get it.
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[01:16:38] < Randomist> Thanks.
[01:16:42] < Randomist> i_c-Y++
[01:18:00] < Nikky> musicbrainz sucks
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[01:20:28] < Randomist> Hunterkll sucks
[01:20:33] < Hunterkll> no.
[01:21:25] < Nikky> he does suck
[01:21:26] < Nikky> what a tard
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[01:23:57] < i_c-Y> Randomist: another thing to look into is Tag&rename
[01:24:01] < i_c-Y> thats another popular one
[01:24:23] < i_c-Y> foobar can fetch the tags , dunno if it can rename - its in the right click menu in .94
[01:29:12] < Nikky> amarok sucks balls
[01:29:21] < Hunterkll> lol
[01:29:24] < Randomist> Nikky++
[01:29:33] < Nikky> what a shitty program
[01:30:59]  * benryves offers three cheers to [StructLayout(CharSet=CharSet.Auto)] :|
[01:32:48] <+tifreak> lol
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[01:48:15] < Spengo> new zero punctuation woo
[01:50:45] < Spengo> omg
[01:50:50] < Spengo> you get to actually SEE him
[01:51:23] < Nikky> ?
[02:02:55] < i_c-Y> guys
[02:02:55] < i_c-Y> http://www.myspace.com/xkakarotx
[02:05:01] < Randomist> I honestly don't know how I should react to that. :P
[02:05:47] < Nikky> ?
[02:05:49] < Randomist> But a good 'rofl' is in whatever that reaction be.
[02:05:54] < i_c-Y> haha.
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[02:09:40] <@benryves> Poor man needs a cough sweet :(
[02:10:06]  * i_c-Y passes benryves some Duane Reade cough drops (menthol flavor)
[02:12:30] < Hunterkll> -64 ^ 2/3 
[02:12:32] < Hunterkll> is that valid?
[02:12:51] <+patz2009> !seen efneTI30
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[02:12:54] < Hunterkll> or should it return NaN
[02:13:08] <@benryves> Hunterkll: I get NaN here.
[02:13:09]  * Hunterkll is confused at his test case :/
[02:13:19] < Hunterkll> what program are you using?
[02:13:32] <@benryves> Hunterkll: Brass :\
[02:13:35] < Hunterkll> i'm running test cases against some assembler code and it keeps throwing NaN... I suspect it's right, but ....
[02:13:41] < Hunterkll> I don't remember why it's right
[02:13:48] < Hunterkll> so i'm insecure about my code 
[02:13:50] < Hunterkll> :/
[02:14:32] <@benryves> Oh, hang on, raising to a power < 1 is equivalent to taking a root, I think? (eg ^ (0.5) = square root).
[02:14:51] <@benryves> Hence some-root-of-negative-number is complex. Don't ask me, I'm rubbish at maths.
[02:15:17] <+patz2009> The cubed root of -64 is -4
[02:15:19] < Hunterkll> okay
[02:15:30] < Hunterkll> so if it's complex, then my code is right since i'm not equipping it to handle complex
[02:15:35] < Hunterkll> and complex aren't real numbers, aynway =]
[02:15:38] <+patz2009> Then if you were to square it, you would have 16...
[02:16:04] <+patz2009> Though I'm not sure what you do with fractional exponents on negative bases =/
[02:16:13] < Hunterkll> :)
[02:16:28] <+patz2009> if efneTI30 was here he could tell us :P
[02:16:32] < Hunterkll> this is pre college algebra material, people ;D
[02:16:41] < Hunterkll> nah, efneTI30 would probably just crash
[02:16:41] < Hunterkll> :D
[02:16:48]  * patz2009 is in 11th grade
[02:16:51] <@benryves> Hunterkll: And we're meant to be able to hack that?
[02:17:22] < Hunterkll> it's like, MATH 017  material
[02:17:24] < Hunterkll> Then again
[02:17:27] < Hunterkll> i've passed calc 4
[02:17:30] < Hunterkll> and i can't remember this shit
[02:17:32] < Hunterkll> so who am I to talk
[02:17:32] < Hunterkll> :D
[02:17:50] < Hunterkll> i can't even understand half the code in my math library, so whatever :/
[02:18:00] <@benryves> I find I only remember things that are vaguely useful.
[02:18:30] < Hunterkll> book said answer is -16
[02:18:39] < i_c-Y> thats valid.
[02:18:53] < Hunterkll> i went through the steps on paper and got -16
[02:19:04] <+patz2009> Maybe it was doing -(64^(2/3))
[02:19:08] < Hunterkll> then, why is every calculator I have throwing NaN in addition to my code?
[02:19:10] < i_c-Y> thats still valid.
[02:19:22] < i_c-Y> depends.
[02:19:34] <@benryves> Hunterkll: pow(64,1/3) = 4, pow(-64,1/3) = NaN. :\
[02:19:43] < Hunterkll> benryves: 2/3
[02:19:44] < Hunterkll> 2/3
[02:19:51] <+patz2009> If you take the cubed root of -64 (-4) and square it you should have 16.
[02:20:04] < Hunterkll> i'm handling non-standard test cases
[02:20:17] < i_c-Y> depends on what order you operate in.
[02:20:17] < Hunterkll> pow(-64,2/3) is what you need
[02:20:23] < Hunterkll> -64 to the 2/3 power
[02:20:33] < Hunterkll> written -64^2/3 (iimagine that written out on paper)
[02:20:39] <@benryves> Hunterkll: Which is NaN, and pow(64,2/3) = 16.
[02:20:40] < Hunterkll> no parens around anything 
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[02:20:42] <@efneTI86> [bsparks] Look! It's Captain Sarcasm, Master of the Universe!
[02:20:46] < i_c-Y> the thing that happens is
[02:20:50] < Hunterkll> on paper... christ, what the fuck is wrong with my head
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[02:21:00] < i_c-Y> you do (-64)^(2/3) = 16 * (-1)^(2/3)
[02:21:05]  * Hunterkll wishes he knew where the fuck his copy of maple is
[02:21:06] < i_c-Y> and (-1)^(2/3) has 3 values
[02:21:23] < i_c-Y> (you want 3 roots of unity)
[02:21:24] <+patz2009> 1, -1, and I
[02:21:32] <+patz2009> i*
[02:21:54] < i_c-Y> no. i isnt one of them.
[02:22:00] < Hunterkll> this book said this
[02:22:20] < Hunterkll> -16^1/2 = -(16^1/2) = -4 
[02:22:46] <+patz2009> Which is what I was stating with all the parentheses things before
[02:22:48] < Hunterkll> it also provided an example of (-64)^1/3 = -4 because (-4)^3 = -64. i'm not looking at that one
[02:23:08] < Hunterkll> okay, so my NaN error is wrong 
[02:23:10] <+patz2009> It's not doing (-16)^1/2, it's doing -(16^1/2)
[02:23:13] < Hunterkll> right
[02:23:19] < Hunterkll> no, well, my code is doing the first
[02:23:20] <+patz2009> So, I win.
[02:23:21] < Hunterkll> it needs to do the second
[02:23:32] < Hunterkll> now i'm confused as to what the fuck i was confused about in the beginning
[02:23:33] < Hunterkll> jesus ;/
[02:23:39] < Hunterkll> assemblermindfuck!
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[02:25:52] < Hunterkll> aight, thanks all involved
[02:26:04] < Hunterkll> Sir_Lewk: Assembler is not good, assembler is mindfuck! :D
[02:26:31] <+patz2009> s/mind/brain
[02:26:53] < Hunterkll> :P
[02:27:37]  * Randomist wonders why Nikky said musicbrainz sucks.
[02:27:57] < Hunterkll> it's what he does heh
[02:28:02] < Nikky> Because it does
[02:29:06] < Randomist> It's doing a pretty good job for me.  It's finding names to stuff that's been sitting on my drive or has been sitting around four the last -- [Counts...] -- three or four years with incorrect tags.
[02:29:18] < Randomist> Or none at all
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[02:48:31] <+ports-> hey
[02:48:36] <+ports-> anyone have a Ti89 and graph link handy?
[02:48:52] <+patz2009> I do...
[02:49:13] <+ports-> can you test an app for me? im having trouble running it
[02:49:20] <+ports-> http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/378/37828.html
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[02:50:59] <+patz2009> Hmm... out of batteries =/
[02:51:04] <+patz2009> sorry
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[02:54:34] <@efneTI86> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[02:57:32] <+ports-> strange
[02:57:38] <+ports-> that app runs just fine in VTI
[02:57:41] <+ports-> but it wont work on my ti89
[02:57:50] <+patz2009> try a mem clear?
[02:59:58] <+ports-> im backing it up right now. going to do that next
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[03:10:31] <+ports-> strange
[03:10:32] <+ports-> works ok now
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[03:11:39] <@efneTI86> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[03:21:14] <@efneTI86> [Speng0] If at first you don't succeed, you fail.
[03:21:28] < aadster> hey spengo
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[03:37:47] <+bsparks> Yahtzee reviewed Tomb Rader Legends very well
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[03:44:58] < aadster> anyone here try out the FireFox 3 beta yet?
[03:44:58] <+patz2009> anyone here use Firefox?
[03:44:58] < aadster> They supposedly optimized the speed so much it beats out Opera 9.5
[03:46:00] < aadster> I do!
[03:46:00] <+patz2009> http://www.opera.com
[03:46:00] <+patz2009> Use it.
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[03:47:04] < aadster> I am using opera right now
[03:47:04] < aadster> I don't like how it's incompatible with some stuff
[03:47:04] < aadster> plus it just can't beat the addons that FF has
[03:47:04] < aadster> Version
[03:47:04] < aadster> 9.26
[03:47:04] < aadster> Build
[03:47:04] < aadster> 8835
[03:47:04] < aadster> Platform
[03:47:04] < aadster> Win32
[03:47:04] < aadster> System
[03:47:05] < aadster> Windows XP
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[03:48:09] <+Speler> XD
[03:48:09] < aadster> woah
[03:48:09] < aadster> didnt mean to flood
[03:48:09] < i_c-Y> firefox sucks.
[03:48:09] < aadster> sorry bout that
[03:48:09] < aadster> thats what I'm using 
[03:48:09] < aadster> opera
[03:48:09] < i_c-Y> ff3 beta sucks pretty badly too.
[03:48:09] < aadster> have you tried it?
[03:48:09] < i_c-Y> and 99% of firefox addons are retarded at best.
[03:48:09] < i_c-Y> yes.
[03:48:09] < aadster> I dont like how there is no visible home button in Opera
[03:48:09] < i_c-Y> who the hell uses a home button anyway
[03:48:10] < i_c-Y> and you can add it
[03:48:10] < aadster> but it is better in some ways
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[03:49:13] <@efneTI86> [DSPLord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
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[03:50:17] < aadster> yea i guess you can add it
[03:50:17] < aadster> i just started using Opera yesterday
[03:51:10] < i_c-Y> this is me caring :)
[03:51:14] < i_c-Y> this is me not caring >:(
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[03:51:19] < i_c-Y> this is me now: >:(
[03:52:20] < aadster> you sure do like that
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[03:52:20] <@efneTI86> [Merthsoft] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
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[03:53:24] < Randomist> Lol, you just installed it and I just removed it. :P
[03:53:24] < aadster> haha
[03:53:32] < aadster> wow
[03:53:34] < i_c-Y> Randomist: you uninstalled opera?
[03:53:37] < Randomist> FF has actually been acting fairly nicely, though still a bit slow.
[03:54:26] < i_c-Y> you heathen. 
[03:54:26] < aadster> just installed FF3 beta, and it says it's FF2 still
[03:54:26] < Nikky> opera rules
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[03:54:26] < Randomist> i_c-Y:  Only temporarily.
[03:57:09] < aadster> wow
[03:57:25] < BrandonW> Randomist: are you saying the usb8x "dude" tried to make it "proprietary" somehow?
[03:57:34] < aadster> I actually hate that annoying FF3 list of sites that comes down
[03:58:08] < i_c-Y> BrandonW: who might this "dude" be?
[03:58:09] < i_c-Y> >.>
[03:58:32] < i_c-Y> BrandonW is all for open sores.
[03:58:36] < Randomist> BrandonW:  Disregard that; I was talkin' bout something else.
[03:58:38] < i_c-Y> especially on Randomist .
[03:58:55] < BrandonW> The "dude" is Dan Englender.
[03:58:58] < BrandonW> And me.
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[03:59:25] < i_c-Y> BrandonW: i know that >.>
[03:59:30] < aadster> well FF3b passes Acid2 perfectly
[03:59:30] < BrandonW> i_c-Y: I really don't care about open source as a philosophy or anything.
[03:59:33] < Randomist> There's another USB program that lets BASIC programs do something with USB and I didn't correct myself.
[03:59:37] < BrandonW> It's not a bad thing, can't deny that.
[03:59:43] < aadster> it only passes Acid3 69%
[03:59:43] < BrandonW> And that's all I have to say about that.
[03:59:51] < aadster> 59%**'
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[03:59:57] <@efneTI86> [Zeromus] Look! It's Captain Sarcasm, Master of the Universe!
[03:59:57] < BrandonW> Randomist, it's not that linking library thingy is it?
[03:59:58] < i_c-Y> BrandonW: its a bad pun i made. dont "digg" too deeply into it ;)
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[04:00:13] < Randomist> BrandonW: Yeah, hat.
[04:00:15] < Randomist> * that
[04:00:20] < BrandonW> It's garbage and does not work.
[04:00:22] < i_c-Y> aadster: who the fuck cares if it passes acid2 or acid3? just because you can pass it doesnt mean it doesnt render like shit
[04:00:22] < BrandonW> I disassembled it.
[04:00:26] < BrandonW> All it does is mess with port 4Ah.
[04:00:36] < Nikky> opera has passed acid2 forever
[04:00:37] < BrandonW> And if that really does mess with something, I'm very interested in 4Ah.
[04:00:38] < Nikky> so what
[04:00:54] < aadster> >.>
[04:00:59] <+ports-> we need opera for the ti89
[04:00:59] < aadster> no 
[04:01:03] < bsparks> my god damned router died!
[04:01:05] < Nikky> good idea ports- 
[04:01:05] < aadster> Opera doesn't pass Acid2 perfectly
[04:01:06] < Nikky> :)
[04:01:34] < Nikky> gee aadster 
[04:01:37] < aadster> wait
[04:01:37] < Nikky> looks like it does
[04:01:39] < Randomist> Opera and pages with Flash don't agree too well on my comp. x.x
[04:01:39] < aadster> nvm
[04:01:47] < Nikky> and that's the stable released branch of opera
[04:01:53] < aadster> It does. Earlier I got an error >:(
[04:02:14] < Randomist> That's probably one of the only annoyances I got with Opera, but no one will listen to me if I say "Flash sucks."
[04:02:24] < Nikky> yeah, flash does suck
[04:03:28] < BrandonW> Nikky sucks.
[04:04:03] < i_c-Y> BrandonW sucks.
[04:04:13] < Randomist> Blasphemer!
[04:04:15] < Randomist> :P
[04:04:37] < BrandonW> Straws.
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[04:09:48] < aadster> Well guys i gotta go...later
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[04:09:56] <+Tari> yay, I was running later than 1.000 of S.T.A.L.K.E.R before- I can keep my old save game
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[04:54:50] < threexk> hello
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[04:55:37] < threexk> it has been about 10 years since I have been here
[04:55:47] <+chronomex> hi threexk
[04:55:54] <+chronomex> what nick did you go by?
[04:55:56] < threexk> well, since I was on #calc-ti
[04:55:58] <+patz2009> wow, really?
[04:56:03] <+chronomex> ah ok
[04:56:19] < threexk> Flinn
[04:56:34] <+chronomex> not familiar with it
[04:56:45] < threexk> aardvarq is the only nick I recognize
[04:56:54] < Nikky> and aardvarq is now a woman
[04:56:55] < Nikky> so...
[04:56:59] < threexk> what
[04:57:04] < threexk> sex change?
[04:57:07] < Nikky> yep
[04:57:11] < Nikky> about 3 years ago
[04:57:17] < bsparks> his calc told him, err, her too
[04:57:55] < threexk> there used to be an original girl on this channel
[04:58:04] < threexk> nolabels
[04:58:13] < bsparks> oh, I was about to say Tahben
[04:58:17] < threexk> tahben!
[04:58:21] < threexk> I remember that person
[04:58:33] < threexk> I guess there were two
[04:59:12] < threexk> bsparks: have you always been bsparks?
[04:59:21] < bsparks> no
[04:59:40] < bsparks> but I haven't been here much more then... uhh... 4 years... shit, yeah, 4
[04:59:56]  * patz2009 has been here for less than a year >.>
[05:01:27] <+chronomex> threexk: "original girl"?
[05:01:37] <+chronomex> as opposed to "plaigarized girl"?
[05:01:52] < threexk> as opposed to aardvarq the sex-changer
[05:02:51] < bsparks> threexk, there are only 2 and a half girls now
[05:03:06] < bsparks> aardvarq, tahben, and half of nikky
[05:03:40] < threexk> is aardvarq really a female?  I am confused
[05:03:45] < threexk> is aardvarq a bot now?
[05:04:01] < bsparks> Nikky, knows most about it
[05:04:25] < Nikky> total girl
[05:04:47] <+patz2009> Nikky: You're post-op now?
[05:05:26] <+chronomex> like post-mod ?
[05:05:55] <+patz2009> Post-Operation.
[05:06:41] < threexk> meltsai now works at Cisco and has a PhD from Berkeley, apparently
[05:11:22] < BrandonW> aardvarq is male.
[05:11:32] < Nikky> no he isn't, silly goose
[05:11:37] < BrandonW> Meet Nikky, the troll that would lie straight to your face.
[05:11:44] < Nikky> Prove I've lied once
[05:11:52] < BrandonW> You said aardvarq was a girl.
[05:12:00] < Nikky> did not
[05:12:03] < threexk> Nikky: no "he" isn't
[05:12:22] < Nikky> I refer to trannys by their original sex
[05:12:45] < Nikky> :)
[05:12:58] <+patz2009> lulz
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[05:13:33] < threexk> coming back to your old IRC channel and seeing someone you recognize is like going home for the holidays and seeing someone from high school flipping burgers
[05:13:41] < Nikky> haha, how true
[05:14:18] < threexk> but I'm still a loser so I can't talk
[05:14:47] < threexk> goodbye
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[05:18:32] < BrandonW> Turned emo and vanished.
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[05:18:51] < BrandonW> Verizon completely sucks.
[05:18:57] < Nikky>  the cell?
[05:18:59] < Nikky> or internet
[05:19:03] < BrandonW> Cell.
[05:19:04] < Barrett> it's more like getting a temporary job flipping burgers with your friends from high school
[05:19:18] < Nikky> Cell service is awesome
[05:19:20] < Nikky> what's wrong with it?
[05:19:25] < BrandonW> I can't activate my damn phone.
[05:19:29] < BrandonW> "We could not find your order."
[05:19:35] < Nikky> wow
[05:19:36] < Nikky> lame
[05:19:48] < BrandonW> Dialing *228 here sucked, too.
[05:19:57] < BrandonW> I suspect the service is terrible in this area.
[05:20:03] < BrandonW> I just hate them.
[05:20:10] < BrandonW> And their customer service thing is closed.
[05:20:13] < BrandonW> 30 minutes after I got home.
[05:20:23] < Nikky> ?
[05:20:31] < BrandonW> What part did you not understand?
[05:20:35] < BrandonW> Maybe if you used words, I'd know.
[05:20:45] < Nikky> ?
[05:20:48] < BrandonW> But I'm not going to bother with that ridiculous punctuation.
[05:22:34] < Nikky> ??
[05:28:27] <+ports-> verizon?
[05:29:12] < Nikky> phone?
[05:30:02] <+ports-> *228
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[06:14:03] < Spengo> http://youtube.com/watch?v=tb5kEEcJqKM
[06:14:04] < Spengo> lmao
[06:14:04] < millinao> Has anyone seen be kind rewind?
[06:14:06] < Spengo> you guys have to watch that
[06:14:12] < Spengo> now THAT is the way to go fishing xD
[06:14:58] < millinao> hahaha
[06:19:20] < Netham45> BrandonW, how hard would it be to write a program that could boot off of an OS installed onto a memory stick on an 84+?
[06:19:42] < Netham45> like, you could have access to all the OSes, w/o having to flash it.
[06:20:34] < Nikky> dam, nhard
[06:23:31] < Netham45> I saw the best bumper sticker earlier
[06:23:38] < Netham45> "All your oil is belong to U.S."
[06:23:42] <+chronomex> haha
[06:24:42] < millinao> that is awesome
[06:27:17] < DarkAuron> haha
[06:31:31] < millinao> woo, bob marley rocks
[06:34:33] < millinao> WTF is with digg? almost all of the top story's comments are buried
[06:34:59] < millinao> digg is just organized 4chan
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[06:42:15] <@efneTI86> [Sir_Lewk] THE SPOON IS A LIE!!!
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[06:48:16] < Spengo> digg is just fail
[06:48:23] < Spengo> why would you ever go there :o
[06:48:34] < Spengo> at least 4chan has a couple more reputable boards
[06:49:34] <+Sir_Lewk> find / | grep jpeg | xargs mogrify -flip
[06:49:44] <+Sir_Lewk> EPIC LULZ RESULTED
[06:49:52] < millinao> hahaha
[06:50:10] < millinao> that takes every image and flips it around?
[06:50:28] < millinao> Spengo: I frequented digg when it was unlame
[06:50:31] <+Sir_Lewk> I ran that (as well as the corresponding lines for png, gif, and just jpg) on some kids ubuntu install
[06:50:37] < Spengo> millinao, which was when? :O
[06:50:40] <+Sir_Lewk> *every* picture was flipped :D
[06:50:46] < millinao> around before the iphone
[06:51:12] < Spengo> it sucked before that
[06:51:35] < millinao> it was also before I was un-unlame
[06:52:04] < millinao> and sometimes when I get bored I see what the digg is up to
[06:53:11] < millinao> heh, there's a shitty clothes shop named the dig
[06:53:16] < Nikky> digg tard
[06:53:21] < millinao> that place is awesome, everything is under 5$
[06:55:51] <+Sir_Lewk> digg is lose
[06:59:28] < millinao> indeed
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[07:01:24] < Spengo> aww you made him leave
[07:01:30] < Spengo> bad Sir_Lewk 
[07:02:27] < Nikky> diggtard
[07:12:38] <+Sir_Lewk> but I luvz millinao :(
[07:14:59] < Nikky> fedoratard
[07:15:37] <+Sir_Lewk> "tard"tard
[07:16:14] < Nikky> ?
[07:16:23] <+Sir_Lewk> every one is a tard to you
[07:16:27] < DarkAuron> omfg that demo is extremely epic
[07:16:41] <+Sir_Lewk> *tard is you're favorite phrase
[07:17:01] <+Sir_Lewk> what demo DarkAuron?
[07:17:13] < DarkAuron> farbrausch 041: debris
[07:17:17] < DarkAuron> 176kb
[07:17:33] < DarkAuron> it proves that games should have destructable environments by now :P
[07:18:09] < DarkAuron> you can either download it and run it yourself (you need a decent computer)
[07:18:13] < DarkAuron> or watch it on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0Eg3dBnsHk
[07:18:35] < Nikky> I don't have a decent computer
[07:18:38] < Nikky> Pentium III
[07:19:01] < DarkAuron> okay you'll want to watch the video then
[07:19:14] < DarkAuron> requires videocard with PS2.0 or higher, at least 2ghz processor
[07:19:18] < Nikky> I might as well be running that
[07:19:24] < DarkAuron> and I think about a gig of ram or more
[07:19:31] < Nikky> since Im sure it's windows only :)
[07:19:48] < DarkAuron> that too
[07:20:01] < DarkAuron> it's only 176kb though
[07:20:45] < Nikky> windowez
[07:26:34] <+Sir_Lewk> that was pretty incredible though
[07:26:49] < DarkAuron> looks amazing at 1600x1200 running it :P
[07:27:13] < Nikky> i only have 1024x768
[07:27:16] <+Sir_Lewk> I'm going to have to try it out (not just youtube) to try that
[07:27:27] <+Sir_Lewk> what?
[07:27:29] < DarkAuron> http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=30244
[07:27:41]  * DarkAuron is about to watch fr-055
[07:27:44] <+Sir_Lewk> you can pick up better monitors from sidewalks Nikky
[07:28:22] < Nikky> I like it
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[07:36:00] < DarkAuron> o_O
[07:36:10] < DarkAuron> fr-055 is one of the weirdest things I've ever seen
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[08:31:51] < Hunterkll> maple will solve a problem and show the steps it took, right?
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[10:05:57] <@E-J> Hunterkll: i doubt the steps
[10:06:10] < Hunterkll> I found what I need
[10:06:17] < Hunterkll> i want to know how maple solves problems, not how humans do it =]
[10:06:19] < Hunterkll> heh
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[10:59:30] <@efneTI86> [Leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
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[11:28:26] <@efneTI86> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing?
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[12:31:16] < al_b> aardvarq had a sex change?
[12:34:46] <@E-J> hmmm?
[12:35:00] < al_b> maybe I'm looking at an old conversation
[12:35:01] < al_b> nm
[12:44:34] < BrandonW> That was just Nikky trolling.
[12:45:17] < BrandonW> Netham45: impossible. Although you could put an 8XU on the drive and then load it without a PC or other calculator to send it.
[13:01:01] <@E-J> ha and dvb-c card works on linux also \o/
[13:01:33] <@E-J> time for extreme java programming ->
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[13:04:47] < i_c-Y> Hunterkll> i want to know how maple solves problems, not how humans do it =] < thats called a "trade secret"
[13:05:00] < i_c-Y> though you can look at some more limited CAS's for free
[13:05:03] < i_c-Y> ie maxima
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[13:05:57] < Hunterkll> :o
[13:08:31] <@benryves> Hm, menus that honour the user's theme (but no icons), ugly menus that have icons, or themed menus with icons that only work on Vista. 'tis a conundrum. :(
[13:09:41] < Hunterkll> heh
[13:09:53] < Hunterkll> both =]
[13:10:12] <@benryves> (Vista is the first version of Windows to support icons on menus, bizarrely enough). :(
[13:10:28] < Hunterkll> i need to relearn this japanese layout
[13:11:13] < Hunterkll> it's not qwerty and it's not dvorak compatable ....
[13:11:42] < Hunterkll> and the keycaps don't have english characters ....
[13:11:45] < Hunterkll> :(
[13:13:37] <@benryves> So it's very slow to type?
[13:13:47] < Hunterkll> it's heh
[13:13:57] < Hunterkll> many errors 
[13:14:08] < Hunterkll> two errors per character
[13:14:30] <@benryves> Probably faster to use the on-screen keyboard. :P
[13:14:32] < Hunterkll> i'd be worse off if i had never used this before .....
[13:14:38] < Hunterkll> hah
[13:14:58] <@benryves> Is there any particular reason you're using a Japanese keyboard?
[13:15:50] < Hunterkll> I prefer it
[13:16:14] < i_c-Y> hm
[13:16:19] <@benryves> Apart from the fact that you are unable to type with it?
[13:16:27] < i_c-Y> Hunterkll: go view the logs from about 1 minute before you joined.
[13:17:09] < i_c-Y> and benryves , people are claiming that firefox 3 is faster than opera because theres some extension which allows it to do an absurd amount of javascript
[13:17:22] < i_c-Y> in like a few minutes
[13:17:47] < Hunterkll> heh that's the js core not extension
[13:18:05] < Hunterkll> where can i get logs?
[13:18:09] < i_c-Y> its not in their mainline build so its an extension for now.
[13:18:14] < i_c-Y> whois andy and go to his url
[13:18:18] < Hunterkll> kk
[13:18:26] <@benryves> i_c-Y: Probably consuming all of the world's RAM into the bargain.
[13:18:32] < i_c-Y> haha true.
[13:18:41] < Hunterkll> heh so svn == extension?
[13:18:55] < i_c-Y> still, you cant call a browser faster if it just does some javascript
[13:19:01] < i_c-Y> its not in the main part of svn, Hunterkll 
[13:19:44] < i_c-Y> either way
[13:19:48] < Hunterkll> safari has seen 2x speed improvement in svn
[13:19:55] < i_c-Y> im going to run the same benchmark and see how it goes
[13:20:12] < Hunterkll> blows ff & opera out of the water
[13:20:28] < Hunterkll> not like it didn't already do that ded
[13:20:29] < Hunterkll> heh
[13:20:36] < i_c-Y> fuck safari
[13:21:05] < Hunterkll> Why? it's lightweight and fast as fuck heh
[13:21:30] <@benryves> I'll avoid Safari as long as they (a) use custom controls that don't work like any of the Windows ones and (b) inflict eye-wateringly horrible font antialiasing on me. :\
[13:21:44] < MetalRand> It sucks.
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[13:21:53] < i_c-Y> and i'll avoid it until it stops sucking.
[13:21:54] < i_c-Y> :)
[13:22:14] < i_c-Y> if it was a better browser than opera id use it.
[13:22:29] < Hunterkll> Heh, explain this suck 
[13:22:35] < Hunterkll> =/
[13:23:19] < Hunterkll> benryves: FF has alien controls on EVERY platform lol
[13:24:28]  * benryves wonders how you're meant to download Safari, as their web page does nothing in Opera or IE7 :\
[13:24:42] < i_c-Y> benryves: you shouldnt download safari.
[13:24:45] < i_c-Y> >:(
[13:25:02] <@benryves> i_c-Y: I just wanted to check whether they'd fixed any of the more obvious bugs before laying into it. :P
[13:25:05] < Hunterkll> eventually i'll learn this kb again ...
[13:25:31] < Hunterkll> what bugs? it's at like 3.0 now heh
[13:25:39] < i_c-Y> benryves: never mind they dont even explain how they test crap
[13:25:53] <@benryves> Hunterkll: Bugs like "it doesn't minimise".
[13:26:20] < Hunterkll> o.O I never saw that one .....
[13:26:52] <@benryves> Hunterkll: Clicking the minimise button cause it to just vanish instantly off the screen, pressing Win+M did nothing (all other Windows apps minimised, Safari just sat there).
[13:27:06] < Hunterkll> jesus that's pretty fucking glaring 
[13:27:24] < Hunterkll> i thought it was win+d ?
[13:27:45] < i_c-Y> win+m works too.
[13:27:45] <@benryves> Win+D just brings the desktop to the front, Win+M minimises all windows.
[13:28:09] < Hunterkll> i never used m i think
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[13:28:52] < Hunterkll> ugh gotta teach windows my new layout
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[13:31:21] <@benryves> Yay, already broken Safari :\
[13:31:24] < i_c-Y> :)
[13:32:36] < Hunterkll> benryves: how?
[13:32:56] < Hunterkll> it obeys m now, apparently
[13:33:04] <@benryves> Still Win+M bugs, when it restores after that the standard Windows control box is overlaid on top of the Safari themed one, and minimising it from there results in a taskbar button that can't be clicked to restore the window.
[13:34:33] < Hunterkll> restore how? cannot repo here to file bug :(
[13:34:50] <@benryves> http://i30.tinypic.com/212uzyf.png <- :\
[13:35:31] < Hunterkll> w key  + m
[13:35:39] <@benryves> Yep, then click the taskbar button.
[13:35:41] < Hunterkll> click in taskbar
[13:35:48] < Hunterkll> no repo 
[13:36:00] <@benryves> In my case that only occasionally restores the window, and if it does restore hovering over the window causes those extra control box buttons to appear.
[13:36:29] < Hunterkll> cannot repo
[13:36:42] <@benryves> Running Vista Business 32-bit, in case that makes any difference.
[13:37:09] < Hunterkll> though install is just xp + saf + dev-c++
[13:37:19] <@benryves> Argh, crud.
[13:37:32]  * benryves just set Safari as his default browser as the dialog buttons are all back to front.
[13:37:35] < Hunterkll> fuck, vista causes way too many problems 
[13:37:55] <@benryves> Vista causes problems?
[13:38:45] < Hunterkll> between it and xp it's half way to bein cross platform :/
[13:39:01] <@benryves> Hm?
[13:39:31] < Hunterkll> it's like doing carbon between OS9 and OSX
[13:39:32] < Hunterkll> heh
[13:39:33] <@benryves> (Newsflash, Apple: if you're going to write software to run on Windows, please either use the Windows API or a tried and tested cross-platform GUI toolkit, thanks).
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[13:40:15] < Hunterkll> how about... no?
[13:40:47] < Hunterkll> perhaps their goal is not to make just another win app heh
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[13:41:08] <@benryves> Hunterkll: Ah, yes, sorry, that would be too easy and go against their policy of writing terrible Windows apps. :)
[13:41:21] < Hunterkll> terrible?
[13:41:41] <@benryves> Aye.
[13:42:17] < Hunterkll> perharps yyou like fucking around with horrible library systems but i don't
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[13:42:48] < Hunterkll> that XULrunner based player does have promise though
[13:43:19] < Hunterkll> but it looks halfway like an itunes clone, heh
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[13:44:20] < Hunterkll> itunes is simple and easy ...
[13:44:48] < Hunterkll> i'll fight with a kernel, but not a music player
[13:45:45] < Hunterkll> 08:07:11 < i_c-Y> Hunterkll> i want to know how maple solves problems, not how humans do it =] < thats called a "trade secret"
[13:45:46] < Hunterkll> 08:07:23 < i_c-Y> though you can look at some more limited CAS's for free
[13:45:46] < Hunterkll> 08:07:27 < i_c-Y> ie maxima
[13:45:52] < Hunterkll> i already have maple heh
[13:46:33] < i_c-Y> itunes is a piece of crap too
[13:46:34] < Hunterkll> i don't need all the tables et al, just the verbose outlook heh
[13:47:12] < Hunterkll> i_c-Y: Musi player that is simple & dosn't suck please?
[13:48:19] <@E-J> Hunterkll: english please?
[13:48:23] < Hunterkll> with good library functions that'll handle 9000+ files + video easily and cleanly?
[13:48:31] < i_c-Y> foobar2000
[13:48:38] < i_c-Y> it is superior.
[13:48:39] <@E-J> not for video
[13:48:45] <@benryves> iTunes doesn't use DirectShow on Windows, which gains it an automatic black mark from me. :P
[13:48:52] < Hunterkll> o.o
[13:49:12] < Hunterkll> DirectShow is a black mart heh
[13:49:52] < Hunterkll> foobar is cluttered 
[13:49:57] < i_c-Y> no it really isnt.
[13:50:06] < Hunterkll> worse then xmms
[13:50:11] < i_c-Y> than*
[13:50:19] < i_c-Y> and how is foobar cluttered?
[13:50:32] < Hunterkll> http://www.foobar2000.org/screenshots/img/albumlist.png.html
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[13:50:47] < Hunterkll> would do better with columns 
[13:50:51] < i_c-Y> theres a ton of alternate ways to do it.
[13:51:03] < i_c-Y> either way, you dont need to view album list
[13:51:10] < i_c-Y> and i have inline searching anyway for songs
[13:51:15] < Hunterkll> can do adjust width columns ?
[13:51:21] < i_c-Y> yes...
[13:51:41] < i_c-Y> you can do stuff like any other windows app. benryves also acknowledges foobar's superiority, right?
[13:52:03] < Hunterkll> smart playlist?
[13:52:16] <@E-J> no smart playlist there
[13:52:18] <@benryves> i_c-Y: Over iTunes? Yes.
[13:52:37] < i_c-Y> no idea what smart playlists are, but they sound pretty lame.
[13:53:33] <@benryves> i_c-Y: Create a playlist that automatically picks songs on criteria you specify (eg at least 3 stars, over x bitrate, less than x minutes long).
[13:53:33] < Hunterkll> basically dynamic list that's built by  if(song.property =/!= x) 
[13:54:25] <@E-J> i like amarok for several reasons and one is smart playlists
[13:54:40] < Hunterkll> amarok is buggy as hell =]
[13:54:49] <@E-J> you are buggy as hell
[13:55:01] < Hunterkll> i'm not saying it sucks
[13:55:19] < Hunterkll> but the new tree needs srs ironing
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[13:55:49]  * benryves just uses WMP... for several reasons.
[13:55:58] < Hunterkll> :/
[13:56:07] < i_c-Y> oh there are smart playlists for foobar in the autoplaylists plugin
[14:01:27] < Hunterkll> ah
[14:03:39] < Hunterkll> The session is annoying me...
[14:03:54] < Hunterkll> damn keyboard heh
[14:04:00] < BrandonW> You're annoying me.
[14:04:41] < Hunterkll> =]
[14:05:05] < i_c-Y> hai BrandonW 
[14:05:31] <@E-J> benryves: one is that you are ms fan boy?-)
[14:05:59] < BrandonW> Ain't that the truth.
[14:06:05] < BrandonW> But that's okay.
[14:06:11] < BrandonW> I know some really smart people that are Microsoft fanboys.
[14:06:17] < i_c-Y> benryves is awesome.
[14:07:14] < Hunterkll> ded
[14:07:15] < Hunterkll> heh
[14:07:49] < i_c-Y> benryves: you must go into hiding
[14:07:52] < Hunterkll> i still have my mcp card from 2000
[14:08:00] <@benryves> E-J: Damn, got me. :P
[14:08:02] < i_c-Y> "ded" is the mac fanboy code to assassinate nearest microsoft fanboy
[14:08:12] <@benryves> Urk. :|
[14:08:15] < Hunterkll> o.o or a typo...
[14:08:23] < i_c-Y> lies.
[14:08:36] <@benryves> M$ sux.
[14:08:46] <@benryves> (Was that convincing enough?)
[14:08:59] < BrandonW> Whoa! Now I'm all confused!
[14:08:59] < i_c-Y> (no, you have to include something on the "superiority" of apple)
[14:09:07] < Hunterkll> and it's not mac fanboy it's unix fanboy
[14:09:23] < BrandonW> There are Mac fanboys.
[14:09:25] < BrandonW> And they're idiots.
[14:09:29] < i_c-Y> BrandonW is confused!
[14:09:34] < i_c-Y> BrandonW hurt himself in his confusion!
[14:09:52] < Hunterkll> fuck apple ... they just have better hardware then tadpole ....
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[14:13:20] < i_c-Y> sweet
[14:13:22] < i_c-Y> hes gone
[14:13:27] < i_c-Y> benryves: great success!
[14:13:29] < i_c-Y> rather
[14:13:31] < i_c-Y> HUGE SUCCESS!
[14:14:10] <@benryves> Haha :)
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[16:50:21] < Barrett> how difficult would it be to link an eggdrop bot to a running instance of a TI-89 emulator that can input text and retrieve the output from the home screen?
[16:54:19] < Barrett> I guess a lot of the home screen output would be difficult to parse unless you select it and hit enter so that it converts back to character by character form on the input line
[16:54:37] < Barrett> (long division/roots)
[17:00:23] <@Andy_J> Too hard.
[17:01:09] < Barrett> really?  I was hoping it would be as simple as inputting strings (like tigcc is capable of doing) and reading stuff back... which can't be too different
[17:02:05] < Barrett> you have to admit that it would be cool, though
[17:02:15] < Barrett> and even useful
[17:02:33] < Barrett> border-line legal, but still useful
[17:03:05] < Barrett> the main use would be when those kids come in here and don't know the syntax or what they're doing wrong
[17:03:31] <@benryves> Ick, IRC bots. :(
[17:03:48] <@Andy_J> and by "border-line" you mean "quite not"
[17:03:59] < Barrett> you could have an 89, 83+, an 82, an 85
[17:04:03] < Barrett> you could access them like this:
[17:04:10] < Barrett> !89 solve(x=17,x)
[17:04:20] <@Andy_J> Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.
[17:04:38] <@benryves> Barrett: Or they could just run the emulator locally and not piss off everyone else in the channel. :P
[17:04:42] < Barrett> and it would come back and say "solve(x=17,x)\nx=17"
[17:06:01] < Barrett> you wouldn't use it for personal calculations as much as showing other people how to do stuff
[17:06:25] < Barrett> (keep in mind that people use irc bots for simple calculations and conversions in this channel all the time)
[17:07:22] <@benryves> Barrett: Hm, I'm yet to see that, the only bot I've seen used in here is the quote one.
[17:07:34] < Barrett> maybe it's just in #calcgames, then
[17:07:48] <@Andy_J> yes, because the bots there are better at it >_>
[17:07:53] < Barrett> heh
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[19:24:55] < bsparks> someone ought to write an iPod remote for the 84+
[19:31:58] < Nikky> Barrett: YOu're right... we do use bots to do equations
[19:32:10] < Nikky> but I think benryves is pulling a jgannon
[19:32:30] < Nikky> which means they just returned, saw something, and now basing everything on the week they've been back
[19:32:37] < Nikky> and efneti30 is MIT
[19:32:38] < Nikky> MIA
[19:32:46] < Nikky> since JMan is being a ninny muggins
[19:32:48] < Nikky> :)
[19:36:22] <@Andy_J> seen jman
[19:36:24] <@efneTI86> jman was last on IRC channel #tcpa 18 days, 18 hours, 30 minutes ago.
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[19:39:37] < Nikky> Andy_J!
[19:39:38] < Nikky> :D
[19:53:30] <+chronomex> Nikky!
[19:54:31] <@Andy_J> chronomex!
[19:54:57] <+chronomex> :D the cycle is complete
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[19:59:24] <@efneTI86> [Merthsoft] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
[19:59:37] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Merthsoft] by Remius
[20:05:49] < Hunterkll> v
[20:05:51] < Hunterkll> backing up 610581 items sheesh
[20:06:07] < Nikky> nobody cares
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[20:21:35]  * Nikky kisses Sir_Lewk 
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[20:43:59]  * Sir_Lewk humps Nikky 
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[20:49:54] < tcpa> harro
[20:50:08] < tcpa> harro
[20:50:14] < tcpa> harrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrro
[20:50:27] < tcpa> hi.
[20:50:34] < tcpa> wow this is laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagy
[20:51:01] < DarkAuron> ...
[20:52:38] < tcpa> laaag
[20:52:40] < Nikky> you're laggy
[20:55:33] <+Merthsoft> how the fuck can irc be laggy
[20:55:45] <+Merthsoft> oh, it's CGI:IRC
[20:56:04] < Nikky> lag coty
[20:56:06] < Nikky> city
[20:56:56] < tcpa> it can by our shitty network
[20:57:04] < tcpa> laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag
[20:57:09] < tcpa> tcpa sux lol
[20:57:14] < tcpa> jsfksfdjksfdjkljasfdjkljsfd
[20:57:19] < tcpa> ok im bored
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[20:57:32] < Nikky> I say we blame kerm for that
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[20:57:40] < DarkAuron> I agree with Nikky.
[20:59:33] <+Merthsoft> god, that diude was a fag
[21:07:51] < Randomist> o.o
[21:08:31] < Randomist> Major n00b?
[21:09:15] < Nikky> yes you are
[21:09:45]  * Randomist shrugs and goes back do doing whatever it was he was doing.
[21:12:11] <+chronomex> I agree with nikky
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[21:14:22] < Nikky> I agree with chronomex 
[21:14:35]  * chronomex higs Nikky
[21:14:50] < Randomist> "Higs?"
[21:15:21] < Nikky> hug for kicks
[21:15:24]  * chronomex nods
[21:18:30] < Nikky> omnimaga sucks
[21:18:44] <+chronomex> I agree with Nikky.
[21:18:50] < Nikky> I agree with chronomex 
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[21:21:53] < Randomist> lol, Someone actually took the time to write synchronized captioning for 'Sandstorm'.  Someon must've been really bored.
[21:22:04] < DarkAuron> ?
[21:22:12] < DarkAuron> captioning?
[21:22:23] < DarkAuron> I don't remember lyrics for that song.
[21:22:34] < Randomist> Exactly.
[21:23:02] < Randomist> So they did the next best thing and wrote in all the beeps and booms.
[21:23:10] <+chronomex> HAHA
[21:23:11] < Nikky> ...
[21:23:13] <+chronomex> link?
[21:23:39] < Randomist> http://www.viewlyrics.com/lyr/rate.aspx?fid=1CDB49CFAF5F8B80A050DD7FA9E415E6&rating=5
[21:24:21] <+chronomex> cute.  very cute.
[21:24:41] <+Merthsoft> w
[21:24:41] <+sgm> The only actual word in there, they misspelled.
[21:24:41] <+Merthsoft> t
[21:24:42] <+Merthsoft> f
[21:25:01] <+sgm> "(Unintellgibile)"
[21:25:08] <+chronomex> yeah
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[21:26:43] <@efneTI86> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing?
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[21:28:57] < HQAT> Hmm.. anyone here thinks I'll be wasteing my time by trying to make a CAS for the ti8xplus?
[21:29:07] < Nikky> already been done?
[21:29:28] < HQAT> Hmm symbolic is kinda limited...
[21:31:20] < HQAT> I'd like to add support for some simple antidifferentiation, quadratic functions, equation solving and some more advanced trig stuff...
[21:31:28] < HQAT> I guess it'll be a lot a work tho...
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[21:55:33]  * seidior waves
[21:55:57] <@benryves> 'lo seidior
[21:56:36] < seidior> how are you, Ben?
[21:57:28] <@benryves> Not bad, seidior, will be glad when I can stop futzing around with native Win32 calls; you?
[21:58:20] < seidior> haha, will be glad when I get sound. futzing around with alsa, myself
[21:58:29] <+Merthsoft> do you guys know of any variable bit two's compliment binary calculators?
[21:58:32] < seidior> just switched to SuSE, and am really liking the experience
[21:58:39] < Nikky> don't care
[21:58:41] < Nikky> linuxtard
[21:58:47] <+chronomex> Merthsoft: ?
[21:58:57]  * seidior thinks he heard something, but isn't sure
[21:59:04] <+Merthsoft> i'm not suyre how i can be more clear than that...
[21:59:42] <@benryves> What do you mean by "variable bit"?
[22:00:01] < Nikky> it's a bit that can be zero
[22:00:02] < Nikky> OR ONE
[22:00:07] <+Merthsoft> like, maybe i want then to be aligned in 8 bits, maybe 5, mauybe 17
[22:00:13] <+chronomex> it can't be that simple, Nikky
[22:00:25] <@benryves> Merthsoft: calc.exe is about as close as I've seen.
[22:00:38] <+chronomex> Merthsoft: what can't you do with your normal calc?
[22:00:38] <+Merthsoft> it only does byte, word, dword
[22:00:46] <+Merthsoft> chronomex: binary multiplaication
[22:00:54] <@benryves> Merthsoft: And Qword. :)
[22:00:59] <+Merthsoft> in a fixed-width representation
[22:01:04] <+Merthsoft> benryves: yeah :\
[22:01:25] <@benryves> I'd say "write your own", it's not too difficult...
[22:01:57] <+Merthsoft> eh, i need it for one assignment just to check my answer, so i could just do it by hand
[22:02:02] <+Merthsoft> i just wanted to be lazy
[22:02:07] <@benryves> Oh, heh.
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[22:24:39] < HQAT> Anyone knows what the _IMATHPTRX locations are?
[22:25:10] < Tari> used by various system routines
[22:25:18] < Tari> I know edit buffers
[22:25:26] < Tari> probably a couple other things, too
[22:26:56] < HQAT> Hmm k... thanks... I'm just trying to understand some of brandon's code for converting a string to a float :P He should've commented it better...
[22:27:51] < HQAT> But then again... he didn't wrote it for me to understand... 
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[23:07:09] <@efneTI86> [Merthsoft] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
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[23:15:29] <@efneTI86> [DSPLord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
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[23:30:04] < HQAT> Is XOR A \ OR E the same as LD A, 0 \ CP E ?
[23:30:35] <+sgm> No, afterwards, A == E.
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[23:31:04] < HQAT> Hmm ok... but the effect on Z is the same?
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[23:36:24] <@benryves> Z = (E == 0), if that's what you're after.
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[23:45:50] < HQAT> Jep thanks... 
[23:45:56] < Nikky> np
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[23:52:37] <@E-J> benryves: on work i readed from local tabloid that you had earthquake there
[23:53:17] <@E-J> or maybe it's more like "afternoon paper"
[23:54:45] <@benryves> Yep, we did have an earthquake here E-J.
[23:54:59] <@benryves> I'm too far South to have felt the effects, though.
[23:55:11] <@E-J> someone even got injured
[23:55:58]  * HQAT hates undocumented bcalls...
[23:56:11] < HQAT> Anyone knows what MovFrOp1 does?
[23:56:30] <@E-J> BrandonW knows everything about bcalls
[23:56:46] < HQAT> Yeah he used it in one of his routines wich I am trying to understand :P
[23:59:47] < HQAT> It seems like it copies 9 bytes from somewhere to OP1 or somethn...
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