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04:17 < Nikky> BrandonW: As you can see, we still have an ox40 issue.
04:18 < BrandonW> And a glk issue.
04:19 < Nikky> he's tame
04:19 < Nikky> ox40 is milacious
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05:03 < BrandonW> Welcome!
05:09 < BrandonW> Yeah, cemetech.net is mostly for the 83+ series.
05:09 < BrandonW> The 68k community's not really anywhere with us.
05:10 < BrandonW> Lots of French people in it.
05:25 < Nikky> french assholes, you mean
05:26 < BrandonW> I can't really speak to that.
05:26 < BrandonW> I just know Kevin Kofler's evil.
05:30 < BrandonW> Okay, apparently all of the internet is broken.
05:30 < BrandonW> Now Gmail's password recovery thing is crapping out on me.
05:30 < BrandonW> When will it end?!
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05:35 < Iambian> BrandonW, are you there ?
05:37 < BrandonW> Yes.
05:38 < Iambian> For a TI-83 Plus and for multipage applications, are the pages in addition to the first one stored higher or lower in memory?
05:38 < BrandonW> Lower.
05:39 < Iambian> So, if the first page is on $21, the second page would be sitting on $20 ?
05:39 < BrandonW> Yes.
05:39 < Iambian> Does this change at all between an 83+ and an 84+ ?
05:39 < BrandonW> No, it's the same from the 83+ to the 84+SE.
05:40 < BrandonW> The 73, however, is higher.
05:40 < Iambian> Oh.
05:40 < Iambian> How hard would it have been to find that information using Google ?
05:40 < BrandonW> Probably pretty hard.
05:41 < BrandonW> Although I think the SDK mentions it.
05:41 < Iambian> The 83+ and 84+ as well ? Or is it well known?
05:41 < BrandonW> It's well known.
05:41 < BrandonW> Something like that wouldn't change from the 83+ series to the 84+ series.
05:41 < BrandonW> That would require drastic OS changes.
05:41 < Iambian> Thanks for your help
05:42 < BrandonW> That's what I'm here for.
05:42 < Iambian> It's for that game I'm working on. Expanding the thing to 2 pages and I needed to know where the second page will be.
05:45 < Nikky> You haven't optimized it enough then.
05:47 < Iambian> The planned content would've been way too much to put into a single page.
05:47 < BrandonW> When you have two pages to play with, you start getting sloppy.
05:47 < BrandonW> Before you know it, you'll be at 3.
05:47 < BrandonW> And then 4.
05:47 < BrandonW> Kerm.
05:48 < BrandonW> TI's EasyData application is 4 pages.
05:48 < Iambian> The current system won't really allow more than 2 pages without some serious overhauls to handle it.
05:48 < BrandonW> How they accomplished that, I have no idea.
05:49 < BrandonW> I'll never forget that one CBL application, it was literally a bunch of BASIC programs crammed into an application, it unloaded them into a temporary program and ran them.
05:49 < BrandonW> Didn't even disable the run indicator.
05:49 < BrandonW> Most laughable excuse for a TI application I'd ever seen.
05:49 < Iambian> Each page handles different parts of the game. One page handles the graphics and non-action-related material, and the other one that handles all the action.
05:51 < Iambian> The only real link between the two pages is that one interrupt routine that sits on both pages in the exact same spot.
05:51 < Iambian> That in itself is eating up a bit of space due to there being a copy.
05:51 < BrandonW> That feels both really smart and really dumb at the same time.
05:53 < Iambian> The system could probably be made better, but at the time of making it, I was focusing its speed... and because of that... nearly all the "saferam" is being eaten up.
05:57 < Iambian> If I can get the thing to work again, I'll do something about shrinking its size...
05:57 < Iambian> Since the whole thing's gonna be filled up again with image, text, and script data.
06:01 < Iambian> ...
06:01 < Iambian> Thanks again for your help. I'll do my best to make sure that second page counts.
06:02 < BrandonW> I have no doubt.
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18:51 < Ovan> WoHoo! Another day off schook =D
18:51 < Ovan> And more snow monday =DD
18:51 < Ovan> =
18:51 < Ovan> *=P
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23:08 < BrandonW> I didn't even realize there was a ticalc.org article about the Cemetech contest.
23:08 < BrandonW> He's been cranking them out so much lately, I just read the top one and assumed that was it.
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