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[02:15:10] <@aquanight> hmmm
[02:15:16] <@aquanight> can grub boot an ISO file?
[02:15:34] < Nikky> google
[02:15:35] < Nikky> ':)
[02:15:39] < Nikky> b/c I don't know
[02:17:52] <+DSP_Lord> of course you don't know, dummy
[02:24:02] <@Andy_J> fuck thinkpad bios passwords
[02:24:09] <@Andy_J> damn EEPROMs
[02:25:03] <@aquanight> sigh, it's either get grub to boot an eltorito cd in an ISO image on a fat32 flashstick
[02:25:10] <@aquanight> hunt around for a CD-RW
[02:25:16] <@aquanight> or waste a freaking CD-R on a 2.1 MB ISO
[02:27:59] <+DSP_Lord> GAH
[02:28:00] <+DSP_Lord> fail
[02:28:17] <@Andy_J> nou
[02:29:49] <@aquanight> thankfully, I found a CD-RW
[02:30:04] <@Andy_J> srsly wtf is the password on my thinkpad
[02:30:14] <@aquanight> Andy_J: "srsly wtf"?
[02:30:20] <@Andy_J> I set it 11 months ago and never removed it then and have tried a couple times since to figure it out
[02:30:23] <@Andy_J> but am ailing
[02:30:56] <@aquanight> Andy_J: force change it then
[02:31:10] <@aquanight> assuming you remember your Administrator pass
[02:31:14] <@aquanight> (if you set one)
[02:31:18] <@Andy_J> Send me $45 or equipment and someone who can solder onto tiny pins.
[02:31:24] <@Andy_J> *for equipment
[02:31:34] <@Andy_J> 22:26:32 <@Andy_J> damn EEPROMs
[02:31:46] <@aquanight> oh
[02:31:49] <@aquanight> bios pass
[02:31:53] <@aquanight> right
[02:31:57] <@aquanight> that's a trickier one
[02:32:04] <@aquanight> IIRC there might be a mobo jumper reset
[02:32:10] <@Andy_J> Not on thinkpads
[02:32:20] <@aquanight> :/
[02:32:25] <@Andy_J> Have to dump the EEPROM chip while the password prompt is on the screen
[02:33:40] <@Andy_J> trying to install opensolaris but it keeps panicking when booting
[02:33:51] <@Andy_J> might be acpi-related so I want to turn that off if I can
[02:34:02] <@aquanight> noacpi
[02:34:08] <@Andy_J> on opensolaris?
[02:34:14] <@aquanight> I dunno.
[02:35:32] <@Andy_J> I might be forced to go back to gentoo
[02:35:34] <@aquanight> I'm assuming you've done the Usual Suspects.
[02:35:39] <@Andy_J> everything is broke by default
[02:35:42] <@aquanight> (+ why even set a bios)
[02:35:46] <@Andy_J> +else +n
[02:35:59] <@Andy_J> I had it set up as an unattended server at a large lan party
[02:36:12] <@Andy_J> chained down but didn't want people to possibly mess with it
[02:36:23] <@aquanight> Andy_J: so you go from "broke by default" to "omfg broke when you least expect it" ?
[02:36:34] <@Andy_J> at least gentoo is usable
[02:36:39] <@Andy_J> and I know I can make it work with my wifi
[02:36:41] <@aquanight> Andy_J: shut the lid, and chain it shut
[02:36:48] <@aquanight> (for future reference)
[02:37:02] <@aquanight> and you can tell ACPI to STFU at lid/close event
[02:37:24] <@Andy_J> -B acpi-user-options=2
[02:37:48] <+DSP_Lord> Andy_J: this is why i use the same password for damn near everything
[02:37:54] <@Andy_J> I normally do too
[02:38:03] <+DSP_Lord> also, you were right, Hysteria bass is fun as hell >____>
[02:38:03] <@Andy_J> but thinkpads have a retarded 7 character limit
[02:38:08] <+DSP_Lord> ah
[02:38:09] <@aquanight> I currently have 2 different passwords for shit. Sometimes I have to remember which one I used >_>
[02:38:13] <+DSP_Lord> forgot about that Andy_J
[02:38:15] <@aquanight> Andy_J: ok
[02:38:17] <@aquanight> so
[02:38:27] <@Andy_J> oh hey it's booting now
[02:38:30] <@aquanight> number of keyboard characters available is, what...
[02:38:35] <+DSP_Lord> a lot
[02:38:38] <@aquanight> 100ish?
[02:38:46] <+DSP_Lord> and a lot of permutations of said characters
[02:38:49] <@Andy_J> it has a very restricted subset of characters
[02:38:55] <@Andy_J> about 30 total
[02:38:55] <@aquanight> really?
[02:38:57] <+DSP_Lord> equals a metric fuckton of possibilities
[02:38:57] <@aquanight> ok
[02:39:02] <@Andy_J> case insenstive
[02:39:11] <@Andy_J> you can only enter 3 until you have to hard power the system
[02:39:22] <@aquanight> about 21870000000 possibilities
[02:39:38] <@aquanight> if we assume a generous rate of 2 passwords per minute
[02:39:38] <@Andy_J> whatever it's booting now
[02:39:44] <@Andy_J> I don't really see a need to change any of the settings
[02:39:52] <@Andy_J> because it has a read-only mode without a password
[02:39:56] <@Andy_J> and there's no master ACPI button
[02:40:25] <@Andy_J> the only thing I'd ever really need to do is change the boot order and I'm happy with IDE0 FD0 CD0 EN0
[02:40:26] <@aquanight> it should take you about over 20 centuries to brute force it.
[02:40:27] <@aquanight> :)
[02:40:32] <+DSP_Lord> ^
[02:40:41] <+DSP_Lord> better get crackin'
[02:40:47] <@aquanight> glwt :P
[02:40:47] <@Andy_J> it has a boot order button which doesn't need a password for some stupid reason
[02:40:57] <@Andy_J> which was kind of the point of the password in the first place
[02:41:16] <@Andy_J> ooo opensolaris looks spiffy
[02:41:34] <@Andy_J> ... and the rest of gnome just loaded, ew <_<
[02:42:50] <@aquanight> hmmm, cdrecord as nonroot is possible if you have the cdrom group, but apparently it wanting to bump it's available memory and priority up is not doable without root, and it complains loudly that it might underrun in such cases
[02:43:00] <@aquanight> ah yea
[02:43:01] <@aquanight> gnome
[02:43:29] <@aquanight> nothing can turn an operating system from "oooh shiny" to "ARGH! THE UGLINESS! IT BURNS!" in a matter of seconds quite like gnome
[02:43:46] <@aquanight> (seriously, gtk default is f*king ugly)
[02:44:15] <@Andy_J> it actually doesn't look that bad
[02:44:42] <@aquanight> I'll take kde plastik over any gnome any day
[02:45:18] <@aquanight> yay I can update now
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[02:57:37] <@aquanight> ..yay whee.
[02:57:52] <@aquanight> 258 stuff to update.
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