--- Log opened Fri May 16 00:00:27 2008 [00:14:11] -!- tifreak22 [JavaUser@1Cust4792.an4.ind20.da.uu.net] has joined #calcgames [00:14:19] -!- tifreak22 is now known as tifreak [00:33:57] -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@cpe-76-181-77-30.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #calcgames [01:06:07] -!- _Digital [~DC@pool-71-165-238-32.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #calcgames [01:45:13] -!- tifreak [JavaUser@1Cust4792.an4.ind20.da.uu.net] has quit [Quit: later] [02:42:13] -!- _Digital [~DC@pool-71-165-238-32.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [_Digital] [02:50:55] < _Auron_> !weather 75052 [02:52:45] < chronomex> no weather [02:53:58] <@Andy_J> !weather es 44313 [02:54:09] <@Andy_J> oops I'm +g <_< [02:54:56] < chronomex> this summer I want to learn Ada [02:57:58] -!- Tyler2 [~nexon@d75-158-48-211.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'] [03:09:27] -!- _Digital [~DC@pool-71-165-238-32.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #calcgames [03:23:57] < moko|586> aquanight: Don't you live somewhere in ID, or am I thinking of someone else [03:35:32] < aquanight> moko|586: I do, yes. [03:36:13] < aquanight> also, I have just discovered vim's tab-page function [03:36:18] < aquanight> I think I may never use nano again. [03:46:01] < moko|586> aquanight: Where? There's not a fucking thing here >< [03:47:37] < moko|586> (I'm in Twin Falls, ID , right now) [04:00:56] < chronomex> aquanight: tab-page? [04:01:54] < aquanight> moko|586: boise [04:02:02] < aquanight> also O_o [04:02:14] < aquanight> chronomex: vim -p file1 file2 file3 [04:02:19] < chronomex> what's that do? [04:02:30] < aquanight> you get a tab bar at the top of the editor [04:02:45] < chronomex> ah [04:02:48] < moko|586> -p, eh [04:02:56] < aquanight> they work pretty much like split windows (no :next -> "EBLAH NO WRITE SINCE LAST CHANGE" nonsense) [04:03:05] < moko|586> I know if you feed it that many files, it just loads them up into different buffers [04:03:11] < aquanight> but don't end up with you getting 1 line/file if you have loads open [04:03:21] < moko|586> hm [04:03:33] < chronomex> sounds useful, but I'm an emacser [04:03:41] < chronomex> I was introduced to emacs at a very early age [04:03:57] < chronomex> I was committed at the tender age of 14 [04:04:09] < aquanight> moko|586: vim has, afaik now, 3 different ways to do multiple files: file-chain (no switch, you literally do 1 at a time), split windows (impractical for lots of files), and tab pages (== the Holy Grail) [04:04:38] < aquanight> moko|586: tab pages work better if your tty can haz mouse [04:04:48] < aquanight> as then you can click the "tabs" to switch [04:05:04] < aquanight> I think pretty much all the commands work basically the same as if you were doing split windows. [04:05:11] < aquanight> except instead of ^W^W [04:05:12] < aquanight> you do gt [04:05:16] < aquanight> or gT for backwards [04:05:27] < aquanight> anyway, sleep now [04:05:40] < moko|586> yeah, :set mouse=a is quite nice [04:05:43] < moko|586> even in terminals [04:07:59] -!- _Digital [~DC@pool-71-165-238-32.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: _Digital] [04:54:22] -!- moko|586 is now known as mokomull [05:10:31] -!- Spengo [~asdf@pool-71-117-139-249.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #calcgames [08:57:29] -!- Netsplit hub.efnet.us <-> irc.vel.net quits: @Ginsburg [09:04:05] -!- Netsplit over, joins: @Ginsburg [09:24:50] -!- Spengo [~asdf@pool-71-117-139-249.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: En Taro Adun, brave sons of Aiur!] [09:36:56] -!- CalcIon [calcion@69.92.157.116] has quit [Ping timeout: no data for 486 seconds] [09:40:42] -!- aquanight [aquanight@69.92.157.116] has quit [Ping timeout: 724 seconds] [10:09:44] -!- _Auron_ [~DarkAuron@ppp-70-249-153-12.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 198 seconds] [10:30:13] -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@cpe-066-056-250-157.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [10:35:12] -!- CalcIon [calcion@69.92.157.116] has joined #calcgames [10:35:35] -!- mode/#calcgames [+o CalcIon] by ZiLOG80 [10:35:59] -!- aquanight [aquanight@69.92.157.116] has joined #calcgames [12:51:22] -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@cpe-76-181-77-30.columbus.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] [17:06:08] -!- Spengo [~asdf@pool-71-117-139-249.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #calcgames [17:17:54] -!- CalcIon [calcion@69.92.157.116] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] [17:17:55] -!- aquanight [aquanight@69.92.157.116] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] [17:19:11] -!- CalcIon [calcion@69.92.157.116] has joined #calcgames [17:19:24] -!- mode/#calcgames [+o CalcIon] by Milton, CalcBot [18:39:30] < Nikky> calcion and zshell aren't getting along [18:39:41] < Nikky> filling up my partyline [18:39:45] <@Andy_J> Because CalcIon sucks [18:39:45] < Nikky> fixitplz [18:39:50] <@Andy_J> you mean ZiLOG80 [18:39:55] < Nikky> yes [18:40:03] < Nikky> I only remember the names of awesome bots [18:40:06] < Nikky> :) [18:40:36] < Nikky> republicans are idiots [18:40:45] < Nikky> "zomg don't ever talk to our enemies" [18:40:50] < Nikky> "owait, we do it ourselves" [18:41:00] < Nikky> "but the democrats are wronggg, and hate amerika" [18:41:18] < Nikky> too bad the average voter is a dumbass and believes that shit [18:43:55] <@Andy_J> grumble [18:44:58] -!- CalcIon [calcion@69.92.157.116] has left #calcgames [] [18:45:04] -!- CalcIon [calcion@69.92.157.116] has joined #calcgames [18:45:15] -!- mode/#calcgames [+o CalcIon] by zshell [18:45:29] <@Andy_J> ... [18:45:36] <@Andy_J> what the fuck IP is it trying to use to get the userfile? [18:47:58] < Nikky> lawl [18:49:16] <@Andy_J> meh [18:51:57] <@Andy_J> hmm [18:52:00] <@Andy_J> need to clean out defunct bots [19:03:32] -!- _Digital [~DC@pool-71-165-238-32.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #calcgames [19:54:08] -!- aquanight [aquanight@69.92.157.116] has joined #calcgames [19:54:44] -!- efneTI84 [efneti84@69.92.157.116] has joined #calcgames [19:57:20] < aquanight> weird [19:57:29] < aquanight> the router will allow setting the DMZ by MAC address [19:57:37] < aquanight> but not for standard port forwarding [19:58:17] <@Andy_J> Something broke and ZiLOG80 couldn't linke to CalcIon [19:58:27] <@Andy_J> probably a port forward or it didn't know its IP address [19:58:38] <@Andy_J> so I got un-lazy and fixed it linking to CalcBot [19:58:52] < aquanight> hmmm [19:58:59] < aquanight> some reason I'm not able to dcc to calcbot atm [19:59:10] < aquanight> dcc_own_ip is correct [19:59:16] <@Andy_J> I would bet your port forwards are broken [19:59:20] < aquanight> ...but dcc_port is not [19:59:50] < aquanight> that's better [19:59:53] < aquanight> as for calcion [20:00:06] < aquanight> hmmm [20:00:16] < aquanight> nat-hostname is the correct setting for auto-getting NAT IP right? [20:01:14] < aquanight> oh [20:01:15] < aquanight> damn [20:01:20] < aquanight> only nat-ip exists [20:01:22] < aquanight> nat-hostname does not [20:01:26] <@Andy_J> my-hostname or something [20:01:44] <@Andy_J> [16:02] #Andy_J# set my-hostname [20:01:44] <@Andy_J> Currently: home.ajanata.com [20:01:56] < aquanight> yeah [20:02:02] < aquanight> but my-hostname is for IP binding IIRC [20:02:11] <@Andy_J> I don't think so [20:02:42] < aquanight> hmm [20:02:58] <@Andy_J> then again mine is the router so it doesn'tm atter [20:03:07] <@Andy_J> ... and if that's why I can't get at it from my irssi ... [20:03:31] <@Andy_J> yeah, that is for binding. =\ [20:04:03] <@Andy_J> I think you have to use nat-ip [20:04:24] <@Andy_J> though that might work wiht a hostname? [20:05:47] < aquanight> yeah [20:05:53] < aquanight> I dunno about giving nat-ip a hostname though. [20:05:58] < aquanight> may have to RTFS [20:06:20] * aquanight does so. [20:06:24] <@Andy_J> doesn't hurt to try it [20:08:03] < aquanight> # grep 'natip' *.mod/* [20:08:03] < aquanight> ctcp.mod/ctcp.c: nick, iptolong(natip[0] ? (IP) inet_addr(natip) : getmyip()), [20:08:06] < aquanight> share.mod/share.c: iptolong(natip[0] ? (IP) inet_addr(natip) : getmyip()), [20:08:10] < aquanight> transfer.mod/transfer.c: resend ? "RE" : "", nfn, iptolong(natip[0] ? [20:08:13] < aquanight> transfer.mod/transfer.c: (IP) inet_addr(natip) : getmyip()), port, dccfilesize); [20:08:28] < aquanight> inet_addr() == 1.2.3.4 only [20:08:33] < aquanight> :( [20:08:58] < aquanight> but as the config file is TCL [20:09:07] < Grue> My machine works ;p [20:09:27] < aquanight> I can probably just do up some [exec host aquanight.dyndns.org | sed -e s/^.* has address// | head -n1] and do it [20:09:58] < aquanight> but I'd need it to fail cleanly if the host does not resolve. [20:10:03] < aquanight> like just return 0.0.0.0 [20:10:08] < aquanight> shouldn't be hard [20:10:26] <@Andy_J> would anyone watch if I stream me singing in rockband <_< [20:10:37] < Grue> >.> [20:10:39] < Grue> <.< [20:10:39] < Grue> no [20:10:40] < Grue> :P [20:10:49] -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@cpe-066-056-250-157.ec.res.rr.com] has joined #calcgames [20:10:50] <@Andy_J> and by that you mean yes [20:10:51] < Grue> though I have am etric schlug of work to do anyway, so... [20:10:55] < Grue> no [20:10:58] < Grue> I really mean no :/ [20:11:02] -!- mode/#calcgames [+v DSP_Lord] by CalcBot [20:22:03] < aquanight> ok [20:22:05] < aquanight> here goes nothing [20:22:43] < aquanight> indeed. [20:22:45] < aquanight> there went nothing [20:22:56] < aquanight> .rehash apparently didn't reload the config .. OH DOH! [20:23:23] < aquanight> yay! [20:23:26] < aquanight> it worked [20:23:49] < aquanight> now I should probably change my DCC to bind over the wrieless instead of internet side [20:23:58] < aquanight> as it seems idle connections will get dropped or something [20:24:42] * aquanight wonders why more things don't offer to use TCP keepalives [20:24:57] < aquanight> or even just send 0-byte TCP packets [20:25:06] < aquanight> which are probably what TCP keepalives are [20:25:44] < chronomex> they are [20:25:49] < chronomex> duplicate ACKs I think [20:26:07] < chronomex> that could (and probably should) be a kernel option [20:26:42] < aquanight> even if it is [20:26:45] < aquanight> it's not automatic [20:26:48] < chronomex> right [20:26:48] < aquanight> applications have to request it [20:26:55] < aquanight> via setsocketopt(SO_KEEPALIVE) or something [20:27:11] < chronomex> I mean it should be a tunable kernel parameter, with /proc/sys/net/tcp/... [20:27:19] < aquanight> and on top of that I don't even know if both sides have to do it, or just one side is needed [20:27:26] < aquanight> then again [20:27:28] < chronomex> depends on the intermediate hardware [20:27:34] <@Andy_J> well ACKs don't get ACKed... [20:27:36] < aquanight> if all keepalive does is just send blank data packets [20:27:49] < aquanight> (blank data packet would get ACKed [20:27:49] < aquanight> ) [20:28:12] < aquanight> (assuming that a packet with no state-change flag and a 0-byte payload is even legal in TCP) [20:28:45] < chronomex> it is [20:28:54] < chronomex> TCP is resilient to duplicated packets [20:30:40] < chronomex> has to be, because IP makes no guarantees except that packets probably won't go to the wrong place [20:30:44] < chronomex> probably [20:50:15] -!- Tyler2 [~nexon@d75-158-48-211.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #calcgames [20:54:53] -!- Spengo [~asdf@pool-71-117-139-249.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 204 seconds] [21:13:12] -!- _Auron_ [~DarkAuron@ppp-70-249-153-12.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #calcgames [21:37:53] -!- IDL^LordM [~darksidep@cpe-066-056-250-157.ec.res.rr.com] has joined #calcgames [21:38:07] -!- mode/#calcgames [+v IDL^LordM] by CalcGames [21:43:02] -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@cpe-066-056-250-157.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [22:52:13] -!- Spengo\__ [~Spengo@pool-71-117-139-249.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #calcgames [23:30:59] -!- MrAndrsn [~chavez@72-166-51-234.dia.static.qwest.net] has joined #calcgames [23:35:29] -!- tifreak88 [JavaUser@dialup-4.225.2.173.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net] has joined #calcgames [23:35:52] -!- tifreak88 is now known as tifreak --- Log closed Sat May 17 00:00:27 2008