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[20:57:24] < n00b460> Hello there.
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[20:58:06] < RobotRock> test
[20:58:10] < RobotRock> Ah, there we go
[20:58:26] < RobotRock> I have a quick question for anybody willing to help
[20:59:21] < RobotRock> Well, I have a TI 84+ Silver, and I just put several games on there, and I archived them to free up RAM
[20:59:32] < RobotRock> But, they are not shown in MirageOS
[20:59:43] < RobotRock> How do I locate them in MirageOS, or allow MirageOS to find them?
[21:02:00] <@Andy_J> They should just show up, if MirageOS would support them.
[21:02:05] <@Andy_J> What games in particular?
[21:02:50] < RobotRock> Well, it might not support them at all in fact
[21:03:03] < RobotRock> I found a Quake game on ticalc.org
[21:03:29] < RobotRock> and all of the files were in .83p and I renamed them to .8xp which could explain them not working
[21:03:54] < RobotRock> But even if that doesn't work, I also put a contra game, which I am positive works
[21:04:10] < RobotRock> And I archived it to free RAM, and it doesn't show up
[21:04:28] <@Andy_J> ah, yes, 83p programs only work if they're BASIC... and if they are indeed 83 BASIC programs, they won't have the flag that they need to get mirageos to see them
[21:04:40] <@Andy_J> Dunno about the contra game though
[21:04:45] < RobotRock> Well, that makes sense
[21:04:49] < RobotRock> If this makes any difference, I was able to play Contra while unarchived
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[21:05:13] <@Andy_J> through mirageos?
[21:05:25] < RobotRock> No, just through my program list
[21:05:36] < DarkAuron> that's because that's how you run basic programs normally
[21:05:38] <@Andy_J> Just with prgmNAME, not Asm(pgmNAME ?
[21:06:10] < RobotRock> yes, just with prgmNAME
[21:06:30] < RobotRock> I appreciate the help, by the way
[21:06:35] <@Andy_J> Then it's a BASIC program without the little flag at the beginning that lets mirageos see it
[21:06:46] <@Andy_J> open it from the EDIT part of the PRGM button
[21:07:05] < DarkAuron> if you feel you're up to it, you can add : as the first character in the program
[21:07:10] < DarkAuron> by editing it
[21:07:31] < RobotRock> Would that allow mirage to recognize it?
[21:07:34] <@Andy_J> yes
[21:07:34] < DarkAuron> that's a way mirageos can see BASIC programs, but only ones that have that at the beginning
[21:07:34] < DarkAuron> yes
[21:08:01] <@Andy_J> open it in the progran editor, 2nd+[INS], : (enter)
[21:08:03] < RobotRock> Hm, while I'm able to exec it, it doesn't give me the edit option
[21:08:10] < DarkAuron> might be locked
[21:08:11] <@Andy_J> bother, it's locked
[21:08:19] <@Andy_J> and the only easy way to unlock it is with (surprise) MirageOS
[21:08:38] <@Andy_J> (or on a computer, or with CalcSys)
[21:08:38] < RobotRock> Ah, I should have expected this
[21:08:51] < RobotRock> Is it hard to do with CalcSys?
[21:08:58] <@Andy_J> Not really
[21:09:10] <@Andy_J> but I assume people don't have it to save time :)
[21:10:00] < RobotRock> Hm, with the computer, is there a specific program I'd need to unlock it?
[21:10:12] <@Andy_J> GraphLink
[21:10:31] < RobotRock> Would you suggest doing it with CalcSys or GraphLink?
[21:10:44] <@Andy_J> I'd go with calcsys to avoid having to run a win3.11 program.
[21:11:32] < RobotRock> Alright, I downloaded calcsys and saw that one of the files ends with a .8xk extension
[21:11:43] <@Andy_J> yes, send that
[21:12:00] <@Andy_J> I think one of the .txt files explains how to (un)lock programs
[21:12:01] < RobotRock> Alright, as long as it's compatible. I haven't seen one with an extension like that before
[21:12:08] <@Andy_J> 8xk is an App
[21:12:10] <@Andy_J> like MirageOS
[21:12:49] < RobotRock> Alright, I'll try that now
[21:13:24] <@Andy_J> (back to the .txt files) ... because I don't remember how off the top of my head
[21:13:27] <@Andy_J> Been ages.
[21:13:32]  * Andy_J grabs his 84+
[21:13:45] < RobotRock> I think it's cool.txt
[21:13:48] < RobotRock> Number 3?
[21:14:01] < RobotRock> 3) Protect or Unprotect a Program
[21:14:18] <@Andy_J> yeah
[21:14:40] < RobotRock> Perfect, I'll try that now
[21:14:41] <@Andy_J> Hey, I remembered how to do it. :)
[21:14:53] <@Andy_J> (I just tried and it was the obvious, makes sense thing)
[21:15:23] < RobotRock> Oh, alright
[21:15:33] < RobotRock> Is it the same emthod as unprotecting?
[21:15:37] < RobotRock> method*
[21:15:52] < RobotRock> Also, should contra be archived or unarchived while doing this?
[21:16:34] <+DSP_Lord> if you're unprotecting or protecting a program, it shouldn't matter
[21:16:42] <+DSP_Lord> but unarchive it just to be safe
[21:16:44] <@Andy_J> yeah same method
[21:16:49] <@Andy_J> alpha-p  toggles it
[21:17:52] < RobotRock> Gotcha
[21:17:59] < RobotRock> it should be unprotected now
[21:18:27] < RobotRock> Now I can edit it, correct?
[21:18:32] < RobotRock> Ah, yes
[21:19:26] < RobotRock> And I just add a : to the beginning of the very first line?
[21:20:14] <@Andy_J> on a line by itsel
[21:20:52] < RobotRock> I have a feeling that that is much easier said than done
[21:21:42] < RobotRock> Is there any way to insert a line above it, or would I have to completely re-input the code?
[21:22:57] <@Andy_J> 2nd+del to go into insert mode
[21:23:00] <@Andy_J> and just hit enter
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[21:23:49] < RobotRock> Oh, that's much easier than I anticipated
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[21:24:33] < RobotRock> Awesome! It shows up in MirageOS and works!
[21:24:42] < RobotRock> I appreciate all of your helps :)
[21:24:45] < RobotRock> help*
[21:25:12] <@Andy_J> :)
[21:25:51] < RobotRock> Alas, a new problem has shown itself
[21:26:16] < RobotRock> It "loads level 1" and as it finishes loading goes back to Mirage's main menu. I assume this isn't fixable?
[21:29:43] <@Andy_J> basic in mirageos isn't perfect =\
[21:30:14] < RobotRock> Ah, understandable
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[21:30:39] < RobotRock> I really appreciate the help, though!
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