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[03:24:54] <@Andy_J> aquanight: either fix your tubes or kill CalcIon and efneTI84 until such a time as your tubes are fixed
[03:25:29] <@Andy_J> because join flood is getting triggered in #wikiti and it's getting VERY annoying
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[03:56:38] <+Grue> My tubes have no problems... :)
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[04:27:42] < aquanight> half hour between drops
[04:27:54] < aquanight> this is like dialup
[04:28:11] < aquanight> swapping and moving cable modem did not help
[04:29:27] < aquanight> but cable guy is going to be here tomorrow
[04:29:27] < aquanight> so here's hoping he can make it all better
[04:34:17] <@Andy_J> 23:23:28 <@Andy_J> aquanight: either fix your tubes or kill CalcIon and efneTI84 until such a time as your tubes are fixed
[04:34:20] <@Andy_J> 23:24:03 <@Andy_J> because join flood is getting triggered in #wikiti and it's getting VERY annoying
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[04:39:50] < aquanight> Andy_J: that will leave ZiLOG80 SOL
[04:39:57] < aquanight> but then it's about as useful right now.
[04:40:03] <@Andy_J> at least kill 84
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[04:40:21] <@Andy_J> since it isn't used very often anyway
[04:40:29] < aquanight> indeed
[04:40:34] <@Andy_J> join flood hasn't triggered for an hour
[04:40:51] < aquanight> I'm not sure if I will bring it back or not later.
[04:41:16] < aquanight> it depends primarily on if cable guy can figure out wtf is wrong with our toobs
[04:41:50] < aquanight> also joinflood was triggering because I forgot to reenable DMZ and stuff on router after I had to hard-reset it
[04:41:54] < aquanight> thus no identd
[04:41:56] < aquanight> thus no recognize
[04:41:58] < aquanight> thus no +f
[04:42:12] < aquanight> anyway
[04:42:27] < aquanight> if it's only dropping every half-hour now it shouldn't be anywhere near as annoying as before
[04:42:37] < DarkAuron> seems everyone is having internet issues lately
[04:42:40] < aquanight> BAH
[04:43:14] < aquanight> I dunno wtf tubes are being flaky though
[04:43:26] < aquanight> it was working fine like, last week or so.
[04:43:32] < aquanight> or at least wasn't nearly as bad
[04:43:41] <@Andy_J> the internet in general has had issues for the past week or so
[04:44:01] <@Andy_J> I have been largely unaffected.
[04:44:07] < aquanight> I wonder if some genius contractor chopped a line somewhere.
[04:44:14] <@Andy_J> Other than mirabel being retarded with sshd, but that has nothing to do with the internet
[04:44:28] < aquanight> I don't think there's any construction within a couple major intersections
[04:44:41] < aquanight> but there is construction on of the roads
[04:45:02]  * Andy_J rawrs http://www.cs.uakron.edu/~collard/cs428/projects/project4.html
[04:45:03] < aquanight> just not close enough that I'd think it would affect anything
[04:45:03] < aquanight> funny thing is
[04:45:10] < aquanight> exactly ONE TV in our house has some fuzzy channels
[04:45:14] <@Andy_J> at this point I don't care if I don't get http working
[04:45:15] < aquanight> no other TV does it
[04:45:26] <@Andy_J> but ugh threads in c
[04:45:28] <@Andy_J> ugh files in c
[04:45:31] <@Andy_J> ugh threads in c
[04:45:43] < aquanight> ugh you yaking while I'm trying to copy the link :)
[04:45:48]  * aquanight ^A,ESC
[04:46:07] < aquanight> yikes
[04:46:09] < aquanight> they really mean C?
[04:46:11] < aquanight> not C++?
[04:46:14] <@Andy_J> yes
[04:46:25] <@Andy_J> not like c++ would make it any easier
[04:46:42] < aquanight> no
[04:46:46] <@Andy_J> I knew this course would have some C in it, but I did not think he'd wait until the last fucking project to use it
[04:46:47] < aquanight> then the next question is:
[04:46:49] < aquanight> C89
[04:46:50] < aquanight> or
[04:46:51] < aquanight> C99
[04:46:55] <@Andy_J> -pedantic C
[04:47:05] < aquanight> yes
[04:47:09] < aquanight> which means no GNU extensions basically
[04:47:20] < aquanight> but it doesn't answer whether you're doing C89 or C99
[04:47:30] <@Andy_J> \(_o)/
[04:47:43] < aquanight> (and hey: at least it's unix / pthreads, win32 threading with C IIRC is MUCH worse)
[04:47:53] < aquanight> Andy_J: bottom line basically is
[04:48:00] < aquanight> C99 lets you use // and mid-code declarations
[04:48:01] <@Andy_J> it took me long enough to get getopt working
[04:48:09] <@Andy_J> then c89 is what -pedantic does
[04:48:12] < aquanight> C89 only has /* */ and you have to declare all locals at the start of the block
[04:48:20] <@Andy_J> though
[04:48:22] < aquanight> Andy_J: -pedantic -std=c99
[04:48:26] < aquanight> and you get pedantic C99
[04:48:28] <@Andy_J> --std=gnu99 could be used I gues
[04:48:29] <@Andy_J> or something
[04:48:30] <@Andy_J> heh
[04:48:34] < aquanight> but I guess c89 is the default.
[04:48:37] <@Andy_J> I'm going to do that
[04:48:47] <@Andy_J> as I currently have a block just so I can declare more variables >_>
[04:49:14] < aquanight> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C89#C99 <- what C99 gives you that C89 basically doesn't
[04:50:43] < aquanight> also
[04:50:43] < aquanight> files in C == psh.
[04:50:44] < aquanight> fopen is not hard
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[04:51:44] < aquanight> also
[04:51:48] < aquanight> actually
[04:51:50] <@Andy_J> but dealing with threads =\
[04:51:53] < aquanight> file handling is basically:
[04:51:58] <@Andy_J> I think I've got it
[04:52:00] <@Andy_J> it's just ... meh
[04:52:05] < aquanight> fopen("file", "r")
[04:52:17] < aquanight> fgets(line, sizeof(line), fd);
[04:52:21] < aquanight> until fgets() returns NULL
[04:52:24] < aquanight> fclose(fd);
[04:52:29] < aquanight> threads though
[04:52:34] < aquanight> wtf does he want threads for
[04:52:40] < aquanight> in fact
[04:52:46] < aquanight> for what that project is asking
[04:52:48] < aquanight> you want to NOT use threads
[04:53:00] < aquanight> ..
[04:53:02] < aquanight> O
[04:53:04] < aquanight> M
[04:53:05] < aquanight> F
[04:53:06] < aquanight> G
[04:53:10] < aquanight> wtf at http://
[04:53:14] < aquanight> ok
[04:53:17] < aquanight> that's an easy one
[04:53:35] < aquanight> popen("wget url", "r")
[04:53:38] < aquanight> done.
[04:53:45] <@Andy_J> yeah I was gonna wget it
[04:53:50] < aquanight> actually
[04:53:51] <@Andy_J> though I think the intent was to use sockets
[04:53:56] < aquanight> more likely you want -q -O -
[04:53:59] <@Andy_J> fork wget to a named pipe
[04:54:01] < aquanight> well
[04:54:10] < aquanight> with sockets it's not that hard
[04:54:24] < aquanight> other than URL parsing
[04:54:27] <@Andy_J> I agree threads are stupid but meh
[04:54:34] <@Andy_J> it is useful to at least do
[04:54:37] < aquanight> heck I could probably hack that up
[04:55:21] <@Andy_J> except we're using open not fopen
[04:55:31] <@Andy_J> how do I reseek it =\
[04:55:52] < aquanight> ah
[04:55:53] < aquanight> open()
[04:56:13] < aquanight> lseek()
[04:56:42] <@Andy_J> ah yeah lseek
[04:56:45] < aquanight> lseek(fd, where_to_go, SEEK_SET);
[04:56:54] < aquanight> or SEEK_CUR for relative seek
[04:57:00] < aquanight> but open() means no fgets () :(
[04:57:14] <@Andy_J> I'm essentially reading the file twice =\
[04:57:21] < aquanight> you know what
[04:57:22] <@Andy_J> once to count the lines, again to do stuff with the lines
[04:57:36] < aquanight> it says only the output has to be processed
[04:57:37] <@Andy_J> there was a readline function in an example he did in class
[04:57:38] < aquanight> in threads
[04:57:43] <@Andy_J> I yoinked it
[04:57:47] < aquanight> so
[04:57:50] <@Andy_J> yeah, the main program is reading the file >_>
[04:58:00] < aquanight> use strtok() to split the lines
[04:58:03] <@Andy_J> twice <_<
[04:58:26] <@Andy_J> I think I've got it now, just need to do it
[04:58:35] < aquanight> just trying to see if double-read can be avoided
[04:58:44] < aquanight> it can if you don't mind abusing realloc()
[04:59:19] <@Andy_J> It doesn't say to do it efficiently.
[04:59:23] < aquanight> yeah
[04:59:25] < aquanight> true
[05:00:38] < aquanight> you could just, read X lines, start the thread, pipe the lines
[05:00:44] < aquanight> read the next X lines, start thread, pipe lines
[05:00:45] < aquanight> etc
[05:00:52] < aquanight> ie forking threads as you read through
[05:01:13] < aquanight> after X newlines where X == your --lines/-l
[05:01:20] < aquanight> or at EOF
[05:11:14] <@Andy_J> whoops
[05:11:37] <@Andy_J> well the problem with that is I don't have a way to get all those threads to wait for them
[05:11:43] <@Andy_J> also .. did something wrong
[05:12:01] <@Andy_J> {587} ajj13@collard:~/ajj13/Projects/Project4$ wc -l words
[05:12:01] <@Andy_J> 8 words
[05:12:01] <@Andy_J> {588} ajj13@collard:~/ajj13/Projects/Project4$ ls -1 out* | wc -l
[05:12:01] <@Andy_J> 1020
[05:19:55] < aquanight> man
[05:20:04] < aquanight> the pile of #includes you need for anything nontrivial in C
[05:20:06] < aquanight> it's crazy
[05:20:35] < aquanight> more like a tower of #includes 
[05:24:21] <@Andy_J> holy shit it works
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[05:32:20] <@Andy_J> I think I have it.
[05:32:26] <@Andy_J> it seems to work with local files
[05:32:33] <@Andy_J> and now it's stripping off file: if it's there
[05:33:22] <@Andy_J> the only problem with using popen is that it seems to be anlogous to fopen and not open
[05:36:02] <@Andy_J> meh
[05:36:08] <@Andy_J> worry about that after the man page is done
[05:37:39] < aquanight> DAMN
[05:37:45] < aquanight> almost made a whole hours
[05:37:49] < aquanight> hour*
[05:42:26] < aquanight> funny
[05:42:29] < aquanight> calcion didn't drop
[05:43:02] < aquanight> even though the droppage was like, 6 minutes
[05:43:38]  * aquanight sets maxlag to 20 minutes, maybe that'll help for now
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[05:57:17] <@Andy_J> meh
[05:57:27] <@Andy_J> just need --help and --version
[05:57:31] <@Andy_J> and http:// support
[05:57:45] <@Andy_J> I'm not doing the latter just yet
[05:57:50] <@Andy_J> if I have time in the morning before noon, fine
[06:08:33] <@Andy_J> blah time for bed
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[17:45:00] < aquanight> right
[17:45:07] < aquanight> here's hoping toobs are fixed
[17:45:13] < aquanight> cable guy was just in
[17:45:22] < aquanight> from what I can tell he found two problems
[17:45:29] < aquanight> one was one of the cables had a bad fitting
[17:45:45] < aquanight> and was effectively acting like a antenna - we were basically getting double-broadcast of channel 7
[17:45:52] < aquanight> (NBC for those not on Boise, ID)
[17:46:10] < aquanight> the other was he said the cord was too small on the modem
[17:46:14] < aquanight> and swapped it
[17:46:18] < aquanight> so!
[17:46:27] < aquanight> sadly my IP didn't go back to a 24/8
[17:46:29] < aquanight> :(
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[18:04:31] < aquanight> holy shit
[18:04:35] < aquanight> I told irssi 10 minutes
[18:04:51] < aquanight> it apparently interpreted it as 10 seconds
[18:04:51] < aquanight> wtf
[18:16:10] < Grue> fail?
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[19:45:25] < DarkAuron> !weather 75052
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[22:57:02] < moko|586> hmm... is there any way to make an FM transmitter have less noise?
[22:58:43] < DarkAuron> point it directly at the antenna
[22:58:49] < DarkAuron> make sure there isn't much inbetween
[22:58:57] < DarkAuron> like
[22:58:58] < DarkAuron> your car
[22:58:59] < DarkAuron> :D
[23:00:10] < moko|586> my car doesn't ... HAVE ... an antenna
[23:01:41] <@Andy_J> it's probably built-in to the read window defogger
[23:01:45] <@Andy_J> *rear window
[23:01:58] <@Andy_J> so stick it in the back seat
[23:05:08] < moko|586> ..... it's a fucking GPS unit ... that does me no good
[23:05:10] < moko|586> :P
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[23:10:24] < aquanight> rawr
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