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[01:49:15] < DA|ES-IV> !weather 75052
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[02:06:22] < Andy_J> hmm
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[02:09:05] < Andy_J> god damn hostmask changing
[02:09:41] < Andy_J> ... come on irssi
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[02:10:54] <@Andy_J> grumble
[02:10:57] <@Andy_J> wtf irssi
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[02:13:11] <@Andy_J> odd
[02:13:13] <@Andy_J> whatever
[02:13:19] <@Andy_J> probably better to not use calcbot anyway
[02:13:20] < tifreak60> lol
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[02:29:00] < aquanight> rawr
[02:29:09] <@Andy_J> rawr indeed
[02:29:50] < aquanight> how much do you know about wifis
[02:29:59] <@Andy_J> ¯\(°_o)/¯
[02:30:13] < aquanight> my brother seems to think that because there's two networks in the 'hood using chan 6 and another 2 using chan 9 is why internet is being intermittent
[02:30:23] < aquanight> I think it's just cableone being an ass.
[02:30:32] <@Andy_J> who the fuck is using channel 9?
[02:30:38] < aquanight> but I have no way to prove this short of putting a camera on the damn modem.
[02:30:39] <@Andy_J> and why are two people retarded enough to do so?
[02:30:41] < aquanight> uh
[02:30:44] < aquanight> two people
[02:30:45] < aquanight> I dunno who
[02:30:52] < aquanight> they're just on chan 9
[02:30:54] < aquanight> that's all I know
[02:30:58] <@Andy_J> if there's nobody on 1 then try using 1
[02:31:03] < aquanight> and two on 6, counting mine.
[02:31:05] < aquanight> k
[02:31:07] < aquanight> well
[02:31:12] < aquanight> just I didn't think it'd be a big issue.
[02:31:20] <@Andy_J> channel 9 would certainly interfere with 6
[02:31:34] <@Andy_J> 1, 6, and 11 are the only ones that should be available
[02:31:47] <@Andy_J> why they decided to make the overlapping ones usable is anyone's guess
[02:31:54] < aquanight> I mean, otherwise if everyone all had to use a different channel to avoid interference, there's only 16 channels iirc
[02:31:59] < aquanight> why even have multiple channels?
[02:32:01] <@Andy_J> There are 11.
[02:32:13] < aquanight> if everything's on the same channel it doesn't interfere right?
[02:32:13] <@Andy_J> Range is only about 100 feet.
[02:32:28] <@Andy_J> If everything is on the same network, that would be the case
[02:32:41] <@Andy_J> If you have multiple distinct networks on the same channel, none of the will work right
[02:32:53]  * aquanight just encases the entire house in a faraday cage and has done with it.
[02:32:58] <@Andy_J> I had shit with my wifi before I got my time capsule
[02:33:11] <@Andy_J> though some of that had to do with the shitty netgear access point
[02:33:14] < aquanight> hmmm, well there's two different nets on 6
[02:33:19] < aquanight> so maybe that's the problem, + the two on 9
[02:33:28] <@Andy_J> but I have absolutely no issues on .11n channel 36 with my time capsule
[02:33:36] < aquanight> so I guess I have to go change my router to chan 1
[02:33:55] < aquanight> because someone decided to be lazy with the 802.11 protocol and not make it possible to have multiple distinct nets on the same channel :|
[02:34:00] <@Andy_J> other than the fact that only my macbook is able to use my wifi now >_>
[02:34:09] <@Andy_J> Uh, no.
[02:34:14] <@Andy_J> That's a simple matter of physics
[02:34:31] <@Andy_J> You can't have two radio stations on the same frequency in the same physical area.
[02:34:33] < aquanight> then why would it be different if it was one network with multiple access points?
[02:34:47] < aquanight> or is it different at all?
[02:34:58] <@Andy_J> One network with multiple access points better use frequency multiplexing too
[02:35:08] <@Andy_J> When I originally said network I should have said BSSID
[02:35:15] <@Andy_J> Which is not the same as SSID.
[02:35:15] < aquanight> k
[02:35:23] < aquanight> or say
[02:35:26] < aquanight> "MAC address"
[02:35:29] < aquanight> and be done with it? :)
[02:35:40] <@Andy_J> all devices using the same access point obviously have to be on the same channel
[02:35:52] <@Andy_J> but you don't want multiple access points in range of each other on the same channel
[02:35:55] <@Andy_J> regardless of network
[02:36:15] <@Andy_J> just move to something nobody uses like .11a o .11n (on 5GHz range) and be done with it :p
[02:36:24] <@Andy_J> *or
[02:36:50] <@Andy_J> I've been running my time capsule on 5GHz .11n-only and it's worked perfectly
[02:37:13] <@Andy_J> I guarantee if I drop it to .11b/g-compatible 2.4GHz it'll go back to being shitty
[02:37:26] <@Andy_J> Even .11n-only 2.4GHz it would probably suffer a bit.
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[02:39:07] < aquanight> right
[02:39:11] < aquanight> we'll see if droppages continue
[02:39:15] < aquanight> if so
[02:39:23] < aquanight> then I was right, and it's cableone being shitheads
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[05:31:36] < aquanight> sigh, temporary solutions are fun :|
[05:32:00] < aquanight> cpu temp was spiking 68 C, so I moved the fan I was using to help get air out of the A/C vent and stuck it pointing at the box
[05:32:09] < aquanight> now it's dropped to 58
[05:32:46] < aquanight> also I hate mixing up hdparm/smartctl
[05:45:11] <@Andy_J> lol 68C >_> <_<
[05:45:16] <@Andy_J> I've seen my macbook hit 87C
[05:45:27] <@Andy_J> for extended periods
[05:45:50] < _Tyler2_> Meh, are mobile processors not designed for operating temperature maximums of 100?
[05:48:04] <@Andy_J> yes, if I can't boil water on the underside of my laptop, something's wrong
[05:52:15] < aquanight> heh
[05:52:34] < aquanight> at what temp would I need to go "OMG FREAKOUT sync; poweroff -f"
[05:52:38] < aquanight> ?
[05:54:07] < _Tyler2_> What processor?
[05:58:12] < aquanight> p4
[06:05:50] < _Tyler2_> What model?
[06:06:31] < aquanight> celeron d I think
[06:06:56] < aquanight> and I think northwood
[06:06:59] < aquanight> not 100% sure
[06:07:58] < _Tyler2_> Hmm, so 65W TDP
[06:11:43] < _Tyler2_> http://download.intel.com/design/celeron_d/datashts/31182605.pdf
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[06:30:30] < aquanight> hmmm I may need to consider getting a beefier CPU fan as well as upgrading sysfans.
[06:30:33] < aquanight> er
[06:30:35] < aquanight> getting sysfans.
[06:37:42] < aquanight> I think tomorrow I'll cobble together a perl daemon to monitor CPU temp and throttle the cpufreq if it starts running too hot
[06:37:50] < aquanight> like over 65C, switch to powersave governor
[06:39:40]  * aquanight makes a mental note to clean the CPU fan at some point, it's got some serious dust atm
[06:40:23] < aquanight> I wonder if it would be safe to pull off the CPU fan while the system's live, provided the CPU is kept corked to its minimum clock with everything idle (SIGSTOP if I have to)
[06:40:48] < aquanight> (or even suspend-to-ram if I can do it)
[06:41:19] < aquanight> I think I'll not take that chance :p
[06:41:23] < _Tyler2_> Um
[06:41:36] < _Tyler2_> Why take the fan off?
[06:41:42] < aquanight> _Tyler2_: de-dust-ify it
[06:42:08] < _Tyler2_> Get some compressed air, unplug the fan, let the HSF have it, plug it back in quickly
[06:42:19] < aquanight> hmmm
[06:42:30] < aquanight> don't know if unplugging the fan is doable with the system live
[06:42:45] < _Tyler2_> Well, actually, depending on the age of your mobo, it might reboot your machine
[06:43:02] < aquanight> and having the system down would give me an opportunity to de-dust-ify the rest of the system.
[06:43:18] < aquanight> which might improve heat transfer
[06:43:31] < aquanight> and make stuff not bake itself so much.
[06:44:52] < aquanight> I still need to get casefans. But still.
[06:45:08] < _Tyler2_> Ya, it can drop temperatures significantly
[06:45:36] < aquanight> blah
[06:45:44] < aquanight> moving fan away shot cpu temp back up to ~60C
[06:46:07] < aquanight> kernel temp isn't moving far from 77/78 C though
[06:46:56] < aquanight> yeah, having a good airflow in this box would probably do wonders
[06:47:18] < aquanight> just wish I had a spot to put an intake fan ;(
[06:48:19] < aquanight> hdds could fit one, but no vent unless I pop open the lower floppy bay, and then only really half
[06:49:30] < aquanight> having my desk fan sitting there pretty much showed me what I could get if I had an intake fan
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