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[00:15:38] < _Digital> nope, I have fiber mokomull
[00:15:51] < _Digital> have had fiber for a bit more than a year
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[02:53:25] <@Andy_J> >_>
[03:06:47] < aquanight> bah
[03:06:56] < aquanight> can't find the specs on my case :(
[03:07:07] < aquanight> p/n doesn't turn up on google
[03:07:11] < aquanight> :(
[03:08:12] < aquanight> Andy_J: I don't think you ever answered this question, or maybe I never asked it, but when they say a sysfan is 80mm, is that 80mm for the fan itself, 80mm between the mounting screws vertically, or 80mm diagonally?
[03:09:48] < aquanight> I'm looking up sysfans, and I got out a ruler and measured one of the vents, and it comes up 80mm across the vent, 100mm diagonally between the mounting holes, and 70mm vertically between the holes
[03:09:59] < aquanight> (all approx)
[03:10:12] < aquanight> so I don't know which one is right >_>
[03:10:49] < aquanight> wikipedia is not particularly helpful
[03:11:01] < aquanight> though it hints that I may want the 80mm number
[03:11:13] < aquanight> which you commented when I asked about sysfans earlier that the vents looked like 80mm
[03:19:47] < aquanight> DAMMIT
[03:19:59] < aquanight> newegg does not let you filter system fans by direction.
[03:20:18] < aquanight> or do you just turn them around and point them which ever way they're needed?
[03:20:52] < _Digital> you turn the fan around
[03:26:55] < mokomull> fans come with screws that can bite into the plastic of the fan
[03:29:34] < aquanight> mokomull: ?
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[03:29:58] < mokomull> like ... nothing comes threaded or anything
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[03:30:33] < mokomull> the screws don't bite into the case or anything, they just go through the case an bite into the fan
[03:30:41] < mokomull> and you can pick which set of holes it uses
[03:30:52] < mokomull> I didn't know this until recently
[03:30:55] < aquanight> oh
[03:30:59] < aquanight> you just push them?
[03:31:07] < mokomull> no
[03:31:10] < mokomull> you screw them in
[03:31:12] < aquanight> oh
[03:31:21] < mokomull> they're like wood screws in that they make the threads as you feed them
[03:31:25] < aquanight> OH.
[03:31:25] < aquanight> ok
[03:31:29] < aquanight> now I get it
[03:31:30] < aquanight> :)
[03:31:56] < mokomull> they have thin, wide threads
[03:32:03] < mokomull> instead of the small fine ones most computer parts have
[03:32:40] < aquanight> ok
[03:32:59] < aquanight> so would it be a problem to have only exhaust fans? I don't have a spot on the front of the case for an intake..
[03:33:25] < mokomull> that I have no experience with
[03:33:30] < aquanight> bah
[03:33:44] < mokomull> My case came with a single fan in the back
[03:33:55] < aquanight> so you have exhaust only?
[03:34:03] < mokomull> seemed to run fine, but I got a front fan because I have 4 drives that get toasty in that part of the case
[03:34:08] < aquanight> ok
[03:34:21] < aquanight> if only I could put a fan where my drives are
[03:34:35] < mokomull> I think there are advantages and disadvantages to having more air coming in or going out, both.
[03:34:42] < aquanight> they share a 3-drive bay with my floppy drive
[03:35:14] < mokomull> I'm sure your floppy drive gets a lot of use and makes lots of heat!
[03:35:41] < aquanight> oooooooooooooh
[03:35:50] < aquanight> they drives don't go too far back
[03:35:54] < aquanight> it looks like there IS room for a fan
[03:36:07] < aquanight> but I'd have to open the second fdd bay for air to go that way
[03:36:09] < aquanight> no vent otherwise
[03:36:12] < mokomull> ah
[03:36:19] < mokomull> I've got little airslits in the sides
[03:36:33] < aquanight> my case has side vents
[03:36:58] < aquanight> http://aquanight.dyndns.org:2080/~aquanight/box/
[03:37:16] < aquanight> (warning: large)
[03:37:22] < mokomull> I mean, little airslits in the sides of the front bezel
[03:37:36] < aquanight> oh
[03:37:48] < aquanight> I don't have anything frontside that looks like a vent
[03:37:52] < aquanight> other than whats on the side panels
[03:38:03] < aquanight> if I put an intake behind the hdds, the side vents are too far back
[03:38:20] < aquanight> and an 80mm fan would be mostly wasted with only a little opening.
[03:38:48] < mokomull> I notice you have what looks like a hobbyist-style serial device plugged in :P
[03:39:02] < aquanight> null-modem
[03:39:07] < aquanight> to the box calcion's on
[03:39:10] < mokomull> ooh fancy :P
[03:39:10] < aquanight> which is right next to it
[03:39:19] < aquanight> serial console logging :)
[03:39:19] < mokomull> serial terminal.  nice :P
[03:39:29] < aquanight> I'm getting kernel logging to that box
[03:39:50] < aquanight> though it seems powering off the source box breaks the console
[03:40:06] < aquanight> I haven't figured out how to reset the link properly on both ends to make logging work again
[03:40:08] < mokomull> hmm
[03:40:35] < aquanight> (btw: the USB cable is an extension cable, but I might be able to remove it now that my frontside ports are recognized)
[03:41:33] < aquanight> aha, yes I can use my usb flashdrive to work
[03:41:36] < aquanight> probably usb 1.1 only
[03:41:37] < aquanight> but still
[03:42:02] < aquanight> (and actually there's two, the other is a PocketPC cable)
[03:42:07] < aquanight> handy
[03:42:18] < aquanight> though right now the PPC serves mostly as a reliable alarm clock
[03:42:24] < aquanight> I need to find an NTP daemon for it though
[03:42:42] < mokomull> I use SP TimeSync manually when I feel like it
[03:43:01] < aquanight> and temporary amusement (Jawbreaker yay) when the deskie is down for whatever reason
[03:43:09] < aquanight> like memtest86 :)
[03:43:23] < aquanight> (yes I ran that first thing when I got my new RAM)
[03:43:39] < mokomull> mmm
[03:43:44] < mokomull> I like Kevtris
[03:43:58] < mokomull> it says it's a Smartphone program but it works fine on normal PPCs
[03:44:00] < mokomull> at least WM5
[03:44:11] < aquanight> anyway I suppose I'll get two fans, and put them at exhaust for starters
[03:44:28] < aquanight> if I can figure out a good way to get intake going, I can do that
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[03:44:49] < aquanight> the Better Solution would be to quit fighting with obsolete hardware and get a new computer entirely
[03:44:56] < aquanight> but that's f*king EXPENSIVE
[03:45:14] < aquanight> (for my income and current expenses, anyway)
[03:45:59] < aquanight> I'm not about to let $100~ on new RAM go to waste though, I'm going to enjoy not having to hit swap all the f*king time
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